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Holy shit this fight is cool. I haven't beaten him yet but he's totally having a go at me. Reminds me of Orphan of Kos's moveset.
DS1 thread?
Glad you're enjoying the game coming from BB, a lot of people are put off by the slower combat. Personally, I prefer it.
>>336416278
It's not that bad of a change, I actually went to Demon's Souls first. I took a while to get used to the shield but it got to the point where I was using it too much and ended up forgetting how to dodge correctly.
Ornstein and Smough was as tough as people said.
>>336416854
Speaking of geography, what's the story behind the Ash Lake? I at first thought it was some sort of Norse world tree type thing but you can see it from the Tomb of Giants. Is it smaller than i thought?
DS1and Catherineis my favorite game of all time.
The atmosphere is unparalleled
>>336417050
Well you're just seeing the top of a part of it from TotG. From Ash Lake it's clearly the whole world suspended on the trees.
>>336417150
Never played Catherine but I wanna get it. Fucking love Dark Souls.
>>336417150
2011 was a really good year.
>>336416160
>Reminds me of Orphan of Kos's moveset.
wat
i just passed the bridge and there's a big metal piggu that kills me every time. i gave up and havent gone back to continue playing for months
the game is ass on PC, they royally fucked it up
>>336416278
>that webm
Fucking hell I wouldn't even be mad.
>>336417246
I wasn't sure how far the Tomb goes down, really, or how large the rock was. You can see the Demon Ruins from the tree too, but I don't think the ruins are lower than the lake?
>>336417484
Get DSfix.
>>336417484
I hope you're playing with a controller? That game was literally directly ported from console.
And also get DSfix.
>>336417537
i have it. it made it look a lot better, but it just feels awful on the keyboard and mouse. i got a gamepad, its a cheap ass logitech one, but i really just couldnt get through it. it feels clunky and confusing
>>336417484
You can very easily run past him.
![dsmap[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YmATpuz.jpg "dsmap[1].jpg")
>>336417523
Ash Lake is intended to be below everything. The view from the Tomb to Ash Lake doesn't actually work out if you look at it in this map viewer, so you've just kind of got to understand what they were going for.
http://kayin.moe/?p=2218
His music is shit/non-existent.
>>336417689
Well, I hope you give it another go some day, it's worth the effort.
>>336417464
Well they're both big, tall, lanky fast-moving guys with big blades that jump at you and cast out aoe splash attacks.
I think the difference is Artorias's swings are more straightforward, while Orphan uses the string to adjust the length of his strikes.
That, and the fight gives me the same feeling.
>>336417689
What feels clunky? The controller?
He doesn't look so good in DS3.
>>336417484
>big metal piggulure it next to the fire and go up the stairs next to it. you can to a falling attack on it to crit.
alternately you can stab it in its asshole if you have a stabbing weapon
>>336417702
Oh, that's interesting. Thanks.
I wonder what's below the lake?
>>336417484
Granted, the retail version is terrible but if you install DsFix and use an xbox 360 or ps3 controller it's perfectly fine and looks a lot better than the console version.
DS on pc 101.
>>336416160
Arty was cool back in the day, but he is waaayyyyyyyyyyyyy too easy when compared to even Father Gascan, let alone Orphan.
Just pay some attention to his movements, like Orphan he gives a clear sign of what his next attack will be, but unlike Orphan's his moves have a much slower wind-up, and are always the same, same tempo, and same number of hits.
Also, while it might look like that Arty has a second form of sorts, its actually free damage, just go and hit him a few times when he is powering up, he will get staggered and it will allow a bunch of free hits, and even better, if he survives, he will try it again soon, for more free hits.
Arty has a cool design, but goodamn he is one of the easiest bosses.
When using dsfix, it says going to 60fps can cause problems. So do I leave it at 30?
>>336418013
Fuck that, 60 all day.
Never had an issue with it.
>>336417780
i probably will. i tried to give it a go a few weeks ago, i didn't get much farther lol but that's probably because i'm just not that good at it either lol. it may just not be a game for me and i'm making excuses
>>336417854
the controller, layout, menus, game itself
>>336418013
Turn it on, only turn it off if you're having problems. When you're sliding down ladders it's possible that you can keep going and fall through the level geometry and die, but it's pretty rare. If it's not happening to you then just keep it on.
>>336417802
just thought it was interesting. i usually think of orphan as the boss thats quite different to anything in DS. hes faster than any of them, has incredible animations, and has a crazy moveset, compared to the simple moveset of arty, orphan is just something else imo.
fighting arty felt like i was fighting someone with some honor intact, orphan felt like it was fighting for its life to destroy me.
>>336418013
you can if you want. make sure you still unlock the fps at 30, as from cannot into programming.
The only problems you'll run into at 60fps are sliding down a few ladders where you'll just fall through the world, but the only place I got that was the ladder next to the rats below the drake. Just don't go above 60 and you'll be fine.
>>336418062
Are you wearing heavy armor? The game feels much better to play if you have lower equipment burden.
>>336417993
If I let him power up would it make the fight more fun, do you think?
>>336417975
i believe the first flame was below the ash lake. the beings that became the lords came from below, then rekt the dragons who where on the ash lake, then moved to the top of the world.
>>336416278
>That gif
Fuck, that area made me so angry so many times.
I never had any problems with the Silver Knights, but these painted niggers raped me multiple times.
>>336418298
I always used a bow and got them to come to me. I even did it on my first play through because im the type of person who always wants a ranged attack in some way
>>336417702
Fuck, I loved DaS3, but nothing will ever compare to the maximum comfy feeling I get from DaS1 world.
>>336418298
how? you literally wait for them to come to you, stun lock them without targeting, then move on. you can parry them easily too
>>336418214
His attacks stay the same but do more damage, and it also stacks up everytime he uses the buff, so it will greatly reduce your margin of error.
Go for it if you're willing.
>>336418479
Dark Souls 1 is a really relaxing game for me to play.
>>336418545
I would play the shit out of a souls fighting game
>>336418606
What about this?
>>336418536
Sounds like a riot, I'll do it.
Just about finished with my most recent character, only have Kalameet and Gwyn left to beat. Usually I run dex, but I made myself a paladin this time. Why didn't you fuckers tell me it was so much fun swinging a divine claymore around? This was probably my favorite run
>>336418507
>how
No shield makes me very susceptible to attacks, since rolling isn't an option. and great sword makes attacking in that small area supper tense.
>>336418465
The times I got fucked was because I was supper focused on str, I don't think I could even use a bow
>>336418545
Give me Penetrator cause he has the armor set I always wanted in any souls game and never got.
>>336417689
>i got a gamepad, its a cheap ass logitech one
That brought up some bad memories of playing Soul Reaver 2 on a pos gamepad that had rubber bands in it to center the thumb sticks.
Invest in a wired 360 pad.
It's supported by just about everything and it's one of the best out there.
Man, i'm so relieved that i finally got out of blighttown.
>>336416160
I may be alone on this but Artorias was the most challenging thing I've ever done in vidyaexcept battletoads
It was on ng+ cause I didn't buy the dlc untill then. I was rocking Leeroy's Hammer which I can't remember the name of. Butt naked and 4 hours later I finally beat him.
>>336418781
It's a shame all the other games let you warp from the start, none of them can give a feeling like that.
>>336418479
I was honestly sad when there was barely any great looking sceneries in DaS3, sure it's some impressive designs and great looking structures - but it's all grey, and depressive.
I miss the colour and atmosphere DaS1 had. Even the Abyss in the DLC had more feel to it than most of DaS3.
My favourite area in DaS3 is Archdrake Peak simply because it looks the least withered and dead.
>>336418651Only if i can play as a wheel skeleton
>>336418869
Best I can do.
>>336418545
>Not maining based Naruto Gundyr
>>336418927
Calm down, Satan.
>>336418859
There is plenty of color in DaS3 scenery. Hell of a lot more than in 2's anyway.
>there are people who killed ciaran
I'm about to start 2nd playthrough, fresh character. I did zwei last time. What should I do this time?
>no katana
>no straight sword doing straight sword in ds3 right now
>>336419049
All I'm saying is I miss more greenery and warming colours rather than the ashen gray and a suffocating world atmosphere. But it is so for obvious lore reasons and I'm fine with that.
The only remotely colourful areas in DaS3 are Road of Sacrifices, Irithyll/Anor Londo and Archdrake Peak.
>>336419457
Well is a big bullshit move you can only get Gough and Ciaran sets by killing them.
Chester in the other side, the game gives you a good reason to stab his face
Been playing with aWii U Pro Controllerbut I'm probably gonna buy a different controller so I don't have to hassle with device manager every freaking time I want to play DaS.
Should I fork over the money for a Xbone controller or am I better off saving some dosh and just getting a 360 wired?
>>336419820
tfw no Sunny Souls
![41rc31-dlIL[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cBsoXQ2.jpg "41rc31-dlIL[1].jpg")
>>336419859
I use this http://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-Wireless-Wii-Controller-Adapter/dp/B00E6553PW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462329647&sr=8-1&keywords=wii+u+pro+adapter
Switches between Dinput and Xinput.
>>336419873
Demon's Souls was surprisingly pleasant in that department. It felt very traditional fantasy aside from Latria.
I didn't expect to feel so nostalgic over a game that's just five years old but getting to Anor Londo in DaS3 hit me hard
>>336419745
wasnt there some game on steam thats like dark souls but its 2d and shit?
>>336418859
i enjoy both games atmosphere for what they are trying to deliver. DaS1 looks at its world with a tearful eye, a bit nostalgic and yearning. it makes sense that its a bit more colorful. DaS3 on the other hand is set pretty much a blink of an eye before the end of its world. it feels sick and gutted, very desperate.
though i even like how DaS2s atmosphere is all over the place once i accepted it as some kind of adventurer tale.
>>336420203
Yeah but the graphics are crap
>>336420203
There's different indie imitators out there, none of them are all that good. Salt and Sanctuary is the most recent one, but that's not on Steam for now.
>>336418859
3's interiors were godly, but when you had a view of the horizon everything looked awkward
1s scenery was so peaceful
Nothing will ever top the trees around undead parish for me
>>336420137
im very jelous of all the people who have gotten there without getting spoilered before.
>>336416160
The Artorias fight pissed me off so much. It felt like From suddenly discovered that they could make enemies do unbreakable combos and threw all the combos that they had been missing into one fight. It was frustrating to be able completely dodge or block his attacks 90% of the time, then get tagged once and put into an unbreakable combo chain that kills me from full HP.
>>336416160
>Holy shit this fight is cool. I haven't beaten him yet but he's totally having a go at me. Reminds me of Orphan of Kos's moveset.
Well they made Artorias of the abyss when they started working on Bloodborne.
Is very clear in the enemy design and the bossfights
>>336416160
I can understand the similarities. I think Orphan of Kos is the hardest boss out of the entire series of these games. No boss had killed me even close to as many times as Orphan did.
I didn't fight Orphan until after the patch that fixed his memory leak by the way. I know there are people who beat him before that and think he's easy. Well, he's not. Especially with only 30 VIT.
>>336419710
Bonewheel shield.
>>336420486
dark souls 1 just has a massive advantage when it comes to building an interconnected and homogenous world. compared to 2 and 3 the game is actually pretty damn small. the great thing about DaS1 was that it felt like walking a thousand miles to get to one place while still feeling like youre in the neighborhood of firelink shrine. the world in DaS3 is just way too large to accomplish that
>>336420660
Same. I spent two sleepless nights on that guy, hours of deaths and rage, but it was worth it to make the sky clear up and the rain to stop.
I don't know if I'm just delusional but a couple of enemies in DaS3 felt a lot like Bloodborne leftovers
>evangelists
>the things with crosses on their backs in Road of Sacrifices
>the spider monster thing in Cathedral and AL
Also anyone else notice that some of the regular hollows in Undead Settlement are wearing Ingward's robes or something extremely similar?
>>336420848
That whole scenario is just damn beautiful. The Old Hunters is From's best content.
>>336420946
Evangelists are 100% Fat Officials from Demons Souls.
I'm taking off, I'll leave you with this.
>>336420848
I died so many times I eventually got tired of having to go back and farm blood vials and bullets and just started fighting him with zero vials and zero bullets. I think that helped force me to really learn how to deal with his pressure.
>tfw phase 2 and he goes super saiyan and this music starts
One of my favorite tracks from the game. It feels like shit just got real as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXBK-vTr0WI
>>336421067
Evangelists > Fat Officials
>>336420946
Most enemies are re-used, in one way or another.
>>336421189
Perfect rolling
>>336419457
>kill her
>get weapons, set and can craft boss weapon
>give soul
>get weapons
No reason not to, besides, she dies in the future anyway,.
>>336421228
ToH has a great soundtrack all around. God I love the Old Hunters.
>>336420975
>"oh shit a mutant slug"
>Orphan pops out
>well this lanky motherfucker seems eas-
>REEEEEEEEEEEE
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>you died
He took me be surprise and beat my sorry ass into oblivion
>>336421380
everybody dies in the future. now should i stap you in the back for your fancy underwear?
>>336421189
Belmont build plz
>Be Forest Hunting one night with new character
>Invade one guy's world, He starts bolting towards Sif's door
>Chase him down, kill him with a plunging attack
>get 850,000 souls
>now terrified to progress in the game due to the fear of fucking up and losing said souls
anyone else have experiences like this?
>>336419457
It's not my fault those assholes made the only way to get her armor (the coolest armor in the game, in my opinion) by killing her. I felt really really really bad afterward, but damn that armor is sweet as hell I had to have it.
>>336421627
Just level up.
i wish i could reset all my dark souls 1 memories.
i wanna play it like a total scrub again. slow, hyper defensive and curious.
cant even force myself walking anymore
>>336421627
Homeward bone you nigger
>>336421813
these days are long gone sadly, but Bloodborne defintely kicked my ass even though I easily beat DS2 and DS3. There isn't a single boss in DS3 that is harder than the top 5 hardest ones in Bloodborne
>mfw I killed him first try
I still have no idea how I pulled that off, considering I still die to early bosses in DS3
>>336422152
>There isn't a single boss in DS3 that is harder than the top 5 hardest ones in Bloodborne
Ehh, most of Bloodborne's hardest bosses come from the DLC
>>336422832
doesn't make what I've said wrong. DS3 is piss poor easy if you've played other souls games, Bloodborne not so much.
>>336422983
It does mean it's a lopsided comparison, since BB had the DLC to refine and improve the bosses.
Where as DS3 is still base.
If DS3 had it's own DLC and the bosses were still easier it would be a better one.
>>336421228
he's not that hard... he has like 3-4 moves that he uses and you can just roll to dodge. like every souls boss it's about memorizing his move set and then it becomes trivial.
>>336418013
You won't be able to make some long jumps with 60 fps. But those jumps are optional and few and far between.
>>336422983
And I'm not saying that you are wrong, just that it's unfair to compare the games without DS3's DLC
>DS3 is piss poor easy if you've played other souls games, Bloodborne not so much.
That's mostly because bloodborne enemies are designed to punish most passive player behaviors one might carry from souls games, once you adapt to the aggressiveness it's not that different
>>336416160
So this is a question for all the souls games, but why do the NPCs like Oscar die and stay dead? I thought with the undead curse they would just keep coming back?
>>336422832
Logarius was fucking hard as balls and he was vanilla.
>>336423261
>he's not that hard...
When will this meme end?
>>336422983
>Bloodborne not so much.
shield babby detected. if you 2handed and rolled since des it was easy as fuck.
>>336416160
i've been playing ds1 again. i played ds2 recently but i didn't enjoy it as much. i didn't like the enemy tracking, there were more hitbox problems, and the warping from the start made the game feel less connected.
dark souls reminds me of devil may cry, which is one of my favorite games. it's just a bit slower/less stylish. i want to play dmc1 now.
>>336423580
Oscar comes back as a hollow the second time you visit, though.
>>336423601
That's why I mentioned 'most', the living failures track might be cool as hell, but otherwise it's not a really challenging boss
>>336424123
Also Shadow of Yharnam kicked my ass sideways.
>>336419457
playing dark souls means playing the bad guy
>>336421189
rolling
>>336421189
rolling like a bonewheel
>>336420091
What are you on about? The whole game was foggy because you were literally inside a huge colorless fog. There were no sunny skies in that game.
>>336421189
Rolling
>mfw what i got is crap
>>336424359
Triple Shadow of Mordor fucks me up almost every time. Even Orphan doesn't give me as much trouble.
Forbidden Woods a worst zone.
>>336418859
It would be weird if the sun was shinning during the end of times.
>>336424490
Is Ciaran the best girl in DaS? I really liked her though
>>336421189
Roll
>inb4 its highly similar to one of my characters
>>336425443
The only hard part in that boss is when they go limit break and start to summon the giant snakes from the ground.
>>336424118
Ya, usually you meet an NPC, they die and turn hostile the next time you see them, and you kill them and that's it. I know for the sake of the game they're not going to keep having him come back, but how is it explained in the lore?
>>336425419
not bad m8.
>>336421189
Rollo
>>336422983
>tfw I've beaten DaS multiple times
>tfw defeated all the DLC bosses several times
>tfw defeated Fume Knight on third try
>tfw I'm stuck in Pontiff right now
the game was a breeze until i got to this fucking place
>>336425512
>sun is literally bleeding out and people expect happy sunshine
![the-old-hunters[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m7PQBVW.jpg "the-old-hunters[1].jpg")
>From put a fighting game character into Bloodborne and called it a bossKeep getting her to like 10-25% before she kills me with the fire stuff, fuck.
>>336426084
hahah jokes on you needed 30 tries for fume knight nameless king soul of cinder and hwat not but killed pontiff on first try :DDDDd
>>336421189
YES.
GOGOGO
The enemies in DaS3 feel like they were designed for Bloodborne with how fast they are but they shoved them into Dark Souls, and it just makes it feel incredibly clunky, especially without sidestepping.
I think that's why I really can't get into DaS3. I want to like it, I really do, but when I play it, it just makes me want to play Bloodborne instead.
>>336426112
Just dash forward during fire. Cooldown is huge and the fire only hurts if you run away from her
>>336426321
to be honest, some of these enemies are faster than a lot of Bloodborne enemies.
>>336418298
i cant believe thats already a reaction image
>>336421189
rolling batman
>>336426891
Why, what is it from?
>>336417859
that's not really him, that's just a player who used his name
>>336426973
new radiohead music video
>>336418507
Not even, you literally only had to raise your shield and walk towards them. Since they often start with a jumping attack (pictured on the webm so you know I ain't making shit up), either they'll miss completely and fall to their deaths, or bounce off your shield and fall to their deaths anyway.
It was ridiculously easy, if annoying.
>>336421189
Made a version for DaS3 but too lazy to make it a graphic. Same format as op
1. Daggers and Thrusting Swords
2. Straight Swords
3. Curved Swords
4. Axes
5. Hammers
6. Spears and Pikes
7. Halberds
8. Reapers or Whips (Pick one)
9. Bows or Crossbows (Pick one)
0. Fists
1. Knight
2. Mercenary
3. Warrior
4. Herald
5. Thief
6. Assassin
7. Sorcerer
8. Pyromancer
9. Cleric
0. Deprived
Magic
1. Any 1
2. Sorcery
3. Sorcery+Miracles
4. Any 2
5. Miracles
6. Miracles+ Pyromancy
7. Any/All
8. Pyromancy
9. Sourcery + Pyromancy
0. None
Covenants
1-3 Darkmoon
4-6 Fingers
7-9 Mound-Makers
0
1-3 Farron
4-6 None
7-9 Aldrich
0
3,6,9 Blue Sentinals
2,8,0 Way of Blue
1,4,6
5 Warrior of Sunlight
Gifts:
1. Life Ring
2. Divine Blessing
3. Hidden Blessing
4. Black Fireball
5. Fire Gem
6. Sovereignless Soul
7. Gold Coin
8. Cracked Red Eye
9. Young White Branch
0. Any
>>336421189
roll~
>>336418545
Who are
>2nd bottom row, 4th from right
>bottom row, 5th and 4th from right
?
I played the shit out of DaS, never beat DaS2, beat DaS3, never played BB. I was used to blocking almost everything with my shield. I wasn't ready for the speed in DaS3 even though it's supposedly a lot slower than BB. Champion gundyr, pontyff and the nameless king were very relentless compared to just about every boss in DaS except gwyn, I guess. Now I looked at some DaS videos and the bosses seem so damn slow.
>>336419859
The Xbone controller feels really solid to me. The clicky Dpad is so gud and the headphone port is godsend. I love it, it's the best thing the Xbox has so it's a real treat to be able to use it on the PC.
>>336420539
>2 weeks before game releases
>screenshots of anor londo all over the front page
>>336428160
I never beat DaS2 either, I think it was because they nerfed rolling so terribly. But rolling became viable again in DaS3, which is good and I'm having a real fun time.
>>336427852
the 5th one at the bottom is probably a Dragonrider from DS2.
>>336427852
the priestess of the white from das1
4th from bottom right looks like big hat logan.
dont know the 5th one, kinda looks like a dragon rider
>>336428286
Up your ADP to 20-30 and DaS2 feels fine again
Did they fix how bad and unresponsive the movement was from DaS2 in DaS3?
I actually felt like i was in control of my character in 1 but 2 always felt like everything was on ice
>>336428720
yes
>>336416160
I don't understand how anyone with fastroll struggles with Artorias.
If you're not using fastroll then lel
>>336416278
>that webm
deserved that knife in the back. already got beat with the backstab.
>>336421189
rolling now
>>336421189
reroll
>>336417946
Lel I thought he was talking about sigfried
>>336418748
You can still shoot a bow even if you don't have enough dex for it, it just does single digit damage. I'd imagine your musclebound roidmonster just trying to figure out how to make this bendy stick shoot another stick when it goes twang and hits someone in the bum.
>>336429175
Why do i find this cute?
>>336421189
Rolling.
>>336430102
maybe it's the tiny hands and feet
>>336428720
Dark Souls 2 has dead zones in its movement. That's why it feels so awkward.
>>336420630
When did they start making DS 2?
>>336421189
im going in
>>336430417
Probably i just love her feminine legs
Currently in the progress of getting the plat for Dark Souls. Just need Knight's Honor working through NG+ right now. It's a shame we will never get a game as good as this again. DS3 is good but it's not the same.
>>336431140
>Artorias playing left handed
nice touch
>>336431140
>artorias
>left handed
kek
>>336431140
>artorias plays left handed
How
>>336421189
rollin for dope ass spear build
>>336417993
This orphan meme is getting out of hand. Is it some epic ruse or something? I've literally never died to him when I fought him on different builds and we'll and far into the NG+s. Hell, its almost impossible to die at all in bloodborne with how much shit they give you.
>>336421189
Rollin'
>>336417150
>Catherine
Just chilling in the bar, why is it so godamn comfy?
>>336435637
Bros and boobed bros, what could be better?
Been watching Inuitinua play on twitch. She's slowly getting better.
She has:
>thief set
>uchingata +5
>Cadeous kite shield
She's stuck at the gargoyles. Doesn't have any humanity to summon players.
Who is the best girl and why is it Ciaran?
>>336435637
I love when they nail that bar/pub feeling of... receptivity, making you feel welcome and deared, without necessarily faking friendship or praising you. Making your presence feel appreciated.
It's weird, I know, but the maximum comfyness I felt like that was while talking with the owner of the cafe in Rhythm Heaven for the DS. And that was just a simple as fuck still picture, never even showing the anybody, with jazz playing in the background.
The pub in FF Tactics A2 was also fun as fuck. Just seeing people there, chilling, while you and your clan mates discussed your group's enterprises in that new, fantastic world.
Moments like these remember me how vidya is awesome.
>>336437174
The best part of the bar in Catherine was when I unlocked Persona music and put the jukebox to Memories of You on the final night.
Oh right. OP here, question
I've got a 10+ grass crest shield which helps with stamina, but I also have a mask of the child. Should I turn my shield into Artorias greatshield or keep the grass crest one so I've got plenty of stamina? I'm using a big zweihander.
>>336418854
>>336439110
I'd keep the Grass Crest Shield. there are plenty of other options to use as a sacrifice for the Artorias Greatshield.
>>336419513
my motherfucking nigga
>>336417246
>your face the flood depicted in the game is due the world decending because of the Ttrees burning down and slowly getting destroyed in DS1
