Let's have a Splinter Cell thread, guys.
What do you think Splinter Cell 7 will be like?
watered down Ubisoft shit
>>336397965
It shouldn't exist.
Two terrible games in a row are enough, let the old man rest in his grave.
>>336397965
Splinter Cell Blacklist was really good so I guess that this game will be fine.
>>336398556
He's so fucking old at this point, the next one is going to be Sam escaping out of his government retirement home
Chaos Theory is best classic SC game.
Blacklist is best modern SC game. Both are great fun.
I liked Conviction. I know it's a shitty SC game, but I liked it.
SC1 and 2 are great but a lil but too dated for stealth action. Same as Hitman 1-2 and somewhat 3. I've played them a shitload times so I don't feel like going back.
I revisit Chaos Theory and Blood MOney often.
Blacklist was the best in the series. Take off your nostalgia goggles you stupid faggots.
Chaos Theory > Pandora Tomorrow > 1 > Blacklist > Double Agent > Conviction
BEST THEME COMING
MOVE ASIDE PLEBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adh99_Q735w
>>336398556
Blacklist wasn't bad. It was mainstream ubi shit but not bad, it had some decent stealth missions early on and the movement was really fluid but fucked it all up for wow moments and appealing to people who didn't give a fuck about SC. If it wasn't for Ubi wanting mad dosh it could of been something.
Conviction had no hope.
>>336399067
>record Michael iron side in his retirement home grumbling about being locked in a fucking prison.
>starts talking about shit like he has crazy alzheimer's
>Mind bending himself into younger versions and changing the actual retirement home into surreal stealth areas.
I would pay to play it
>>336399635
>fluid movement
The whole point of splinter cell is paced, tense stealth and dry, black humor.
Neither Conviction nor Blacklist had this is any capacity.
For someone who loves Hitman and MGS, what game do you recommend to get into this series?
I have played the classic ones casually but when I tried to get into them seriously I started with 1 and it probably wasnt a good idea since I played like an hour.
I have on steam right now: 1, CT, DA, Convicton
>>336399343
Fuck no, even if you hate 7th gen double agent 6th gen is actually good, well above blacklist
>>336399635
Blacklist was horrible, it didn't even have Sam, I was totally willing to believe those ''spoilers'' on here about how its a double pretending to be him while he's on the run just because of it
I hate blacklist more than conviction just because of that edgy fucker called sam they had in it and grim's missions arent enough to make up for it
>>336399471
man amon tobin did such a fantastic job with this soundtrack
>>336399180
thanks for sharing
>>336399762
>smooth movement is a bad thing
there's no saving some nostalgiatards
>>336399635
The movement was fucking horrible.
>different speeds are gone
>no manual jump
>I repeat NO MANUAL JUMP
>no iconic spagat move
>no boosting from walls
>no awesome little details like reaching for his knife when close to an enemy
>no interrogations
So much technology, just gone and replaced with Assassin's creed garbage.
>you'll never see Grímsdóttir red bush
again, why live?
>>336400179
wait you couldnt jump in blacklist without a prompt?
goddamn ubisoft cant get anything right anymore
>>336400457
It's a context sensitive action, like so many things in modern Ubishit titles.
>can't let the player do silly thing, might break the immersion :^)
But pic related is ok, cause it forces you to shill the shit game to your friends for play the fucking SP part.
>>336397965
how do we go from this....
>>336401601
to this?
>>336397965
Will there be a Splinter Cell 7? At this point i think Ubisoft only cares Far Cry and Asscreed.
>>336400179
I've played classic SC games recently and can confirm they aged badly. Too much trial and error, clunky controls, no point to continue after being noticed, quickload & quicksave: The Game. And Sam Fisher, although looking cool is completely unrealistic.
>>336401935
They still have great atmosphere though.
daily reminder:
DA > Meme Theory
>>336401601
With all respect- even this is better.
>>336401935
So a sam fisher that defeats a force supposed to defend against the US army is more realistic? Come on now
>>336401935
Maybe you are just bad at games and need a button to skip the gameplay?I hope I just fell for the bait.
>>336402104
nice meme
>>336402104
>DA > Meme Theory
u homo?
>>336402104
>xbox 1 version that nobody played
>>336400179
>he didn't use a controller
top zoz
>>336399795
CT.
>>336399795
1 is objectively the most atmospheric and well designed.
>>336402550
well you said objective so youre right
>>336402104
Xbox original and PS2 version right?
>>336402550
Pandora is much better than 1. Not to mention CT.
SC1 is just nostalgia.
>>336399795
If you dont like 1 I doubt you'd like Pandora Tomorrow, CT and even DA much but who knows
Also I think I'm the only guy on here that likes both MGS and Splinter Cell so you're probably going to hate it either way. So just jump on to conviction and enjoy :^)
>>336402753
First 3 games are all great tbqh
I miss cool moves from old games tho.
>>336402364
>>336402692
So what the fuck was the deal with that, anyway?
>Hey, let's have our B team develop the canonical sequel for next gen hardware while our A team developers the non-canonical superior sequel on old hardware
>>336397965
There's a Splinter Cell 6?
>>336403190
>So what the fuck was the deal with that, anyway?
Just ubisoft being ubisoft famalansky
>>336397965
>you will never again spend the afternoon relaxing playing Chaos Theory's campaign or online mercenary vs spy
that game was comfy as hell
>>336403046
I seem to remember that splits jump thing was massively situational. Like there were locations you should have been able to use it but couldn't because the dev's didn't think that you might wanna do a splits jump there. Also the wall jump thing looked kind of dumb.
So what went wrong with spy vs mercs in blacklist?
>>336403190
that was the most confusing vidya related thing I ever experienced
it was unbelievable that a game was actually better on the ps2/xbox than it was on the ps3/xbox 360
>>336403190
The Chaos Theory team was probably so inspired and fascinated with the whole thing, they just wanted to continue creating Chaos Theory.
The game doesn't even feel like cheaper or dumbed down version of the next-gen which what always happened with old-gen version of next-gen games. It is it's own thing, tells the story in it's own way and manages to be more competent than the next-gen version which was basically the official version.
>>336403507
I guess Spooks are a bit OP.
>>336403507
They made it Call of Duty.
Played the shit out of Blacklist. That game was fine. The Mall/Waterplant level especially. Much more wide open spaces and ambush opportunities. I filled a santa house full of like 20 terrorist bodies.
>>336397965
>Implying there's going to be another Splinter Cell
Funny I was just thinking about making a Splinter Cell thread.
I'm honestly very worried about the series.
First of all, we haven't heard a single thing about Splinter Cell in 3 (three!) years, since Blacklist was released in 2013.
It seriously reminds me of the "back to the drawing board" scenario of 2007-2009, where there was NO news for 2 entire years.
I'm worried, anons...
>>336403575
I wonder how it all worked logistically. Did the voice actors know they were doing voices for two completely different games?
>>336403646
Still, the Chaos Theory team WAS their A team. Ubisoft Shanghai, which did the next gen version, was known for developing the worst game in the series so far at that point.
If anything, Shanghai should've done the old gen versions.
I'm very sad that I got to play the Xbox 360 version instead.
>>336403190
DA on PS2/Xbox is essentially an expansion for CT. Next gen DA is a new game made by a less talented developer.
>>336403956
>>336403972
it was hilarious that the old gen versions all got better scores than the new gen versions
sometimes I wonder how video game developers don't just forget to breath
>>336403972
>>336403190
>>336402692
>>336402104
Double Agent on XBOX was basically CT2 and I actually enjoyed it.
Very underrated. It's too bad it's not on PC.
>>336397965
pic related, Ironside's opinion
>>336404117
It's also funny that some of the FMVs in the game were shared by both versions, and they matched the old gen version more.
It makes me think the next gen one was really an afterthought.
Can someone explain to me why double agent was bad to most people?
I played all SCs but DA is my first so I have blinding bias.
>>336404285
Ironside is bro-tier. Hugely successful actor, but still repairs roofs for a living like he and his dad used to do. Check out this if you haven't already seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqeHW30v4v8
>>336404459
Well first of all did you play the 6th or 7th gen version?
>>336403952
that pic makes me so fucking sad, that level was dope as fuck
>>336404459
They don't like it because Hardcore JBA HQ missions and daylight missions.
>>336404583
Got it on the 360.
>>336404624
Fond memories?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqTPpdZB4UQ
>>336404550
I've seen that one
Ironside is such a cool guy
>>336404846
People mostly hate that one because it's dumbed down compared to Chaos Theory or even the 6th gen version, that's about it.
>>336404926
Explain how is it dumbed down? It is just re-skinned CT with new bells an whistles.
>>336405086
That's true if you're talking about the 6th gen one.
How about the fact that it has no light meter, which means that light levels don't seem to matter at all, or the fact that there's no sound bar and no way to tell if your noises are blending in with the environmental noises?
They should've gotten Amon Tobin to do OST for all the games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbs5k90Y4Xo
>>336405226
>game isn't holding my hand is a bad thing
Well shit son. I thought people were smart enough to figure out things on their own. Its not hard to match the speed ow crawling without spoon feeding info about the noise.
>>336399635
I've been a fan since the first game and I really liked Conviction. It was basically Taken the game before the Taken films became a self parody.
>>336405652
no you double nigger, blending in with the environmental noise was an actual gameplay mechanic in CT that was completely gone in next gen DA
>>336405086
>It is just re-skinned CT with new bells an whistles.
It's not. In CT and DA(6th gen), lightning and sound is dynamic.
In the 7th-gen version. Green light = invisible to everything, yellow = can be seen from 10 meters away, red = spotted easily.
Sound isn't dynamic anymore, crouch-walk is silent, running alerts guards 5 meters away.
Not to mention extremely linear.
>>336405785
It's a good GAME, but not a good SPLINTER CELL.
How's that?I love the Hunter mode
pic related
>>336404285
Based Ironside, too bad ubisoft got their way in the end
>>336404459
It wasn't as good as CT and its a bit buggy (7th gen)
I still like it though
>>336406057
>conviction
>good game
>>336399180
Pretty much bang on. The old Splinter Cell's do align with the classic Hitman games in the regard you spoke of. The first two were great but far too reliant on trial and error. Then like Hitman did with Blood Money Splinter Cell hit it's zenith with Chaos Theory.
>>336403295
you can if you play it on steam
the online still works
you just need to find people to play with
>>336405785
Same situation. I just like Conviction because I think it ended the story nicely and Sam's character was done decently given the circumstance.
No idea why they had to go on and make Blacklist after it, and even they did why bother with ''4th echelon'' counter terrorist bullshit and making Sam an edgy retard
>>336406241
It was though. Don't be angry Mr Ironside, you were still in that one.
i enjoyed conviction quite a bit
Surprised they didnt do the HD remake for this series
Chaos theory was great.
>>336406372
>It was though.
It really wasn'texcept for the coop, which was decent and the only saving grace of this abomination of a game.
>>336406346
I've yet to play Blacklist actually. I've heard it's decent but as petty as it sounds the lack of Michael Ironside put me off the game entirely. His new voice is ridiculously bland.
>>336399471
The whole soundtrack is perfect, I get chills every time I hear it. El Cargo is my favorite.
Conviction was to Splinter Cell what Devil May Cry 3 was to the DMC series.
>>336406489
they did for ps3
>>336406548
>petty
Kek. I hated it just because of how they handled Sam. Making him a younger edgy and aggressive retard and I'm not even kidding. Game itself was pretty much conviction with a little big more stealth, grim's exclusive stealth missions and better AI. And lots of fucking popups
>>336402945
Nah, Pandora Tomorrow was shite.Worst in the series by a mile. I still remember all the previews popping up about a week after the MGS3 reveal where they tried to emphasise the fact the game had jungle environments in a silly effort to compete.
>>336407049
>worst in the series
no ;d
>launch Blacklist on uPlay™
>tutorial mission with prompts and shit
>muh domestic terrorists
>get to the end, cutscene plays
>hammy terrorists shouts "YOU CAN'T STOP THE BLACKLIST" then a cheesy jump-away-from-explosion scene plays
>game crashes immediately afterward, I never play the game again
Like, holy fuck. Remember in older SC games where you're investigating a small innocuous lead like a programmer kidnapped by guerillas, the disappearance of two undercover agents in Georgia, or the destruction of a US embassy and unravelling a greater threat?
Blacklist it's just action movie bullshit. Fuck you Ubisoft.
>>336403046
You could use it like four times over the course of the first three games. They tried to market it as the hadoken of stealth games and you could barely fucking use the thing.
Reminder that this thread was created by some Ubisoft employee
Probably perpetuated by one too!
>>336407501
-t konami employee
>>336401935
I played them for the first time recently, and thought they (aside from the bathhouse level) were great. I'm also not terrible at video games, so maybe that's why I enjoyed them.
>>336397965
it'll be shit because Ironside isn't the voice anymore
>>336407235
It was definitely one of the reasons why I was off put by Conviction. The big bad mercenary army are like super evil villains or something like that. There was no unraveling of suspense and mystery like in SC1 or CT.
I honestly don't remember much about the story because it didn't pull me in like the previous SC titles.
I thought both Chaos Theory and Conviction were excellent games.
>>336408260
Only thing I remember about conviction is that samfinds sarahand he attacks the white house
Literally one man army: the game
