https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9RaUVeYAAQ
EVERYBODY GET FUCKING HYYYPPPEEEEEEE
I don't like the Emperor
>>336397769It's okay to have your own opinions
>>336398021
>having an opinion in the Grim Darkness of the 41st Millennium
>having a negative opinion of the Emperor of Mankind in the Grim Darkness of the 41st Millennium
>>336397769He was a big retard, I don't get what the big deal about him is
>Only three factions at launch
>Super units confirmed
>GABRIEL ANGELOS confirmed
>Macha Confirmed
>Bomb ass Knight charge
>But three factions
Fuck here's hoping for best faction DLC
the thing I don't understand is what kind of fucking idiot gets hyped for a trailer with ZERO gameplay footage in it? my buddies do this all the time I do not understand it
>>336398596
Tau were laughably broken in the first game. People always cried MUH NECRONS but fuck me being able to shoot shit thats not on your screen was always hilarious.
>>336397661
I really hope it plays more like the first DoW games than the second.
>>336398592
I dunno, maybe because he's the most powerful being in creation?
>>336398596
Unironic request for source.
Did Sega say that, or was that something Relic said before they died?
>>336398847
http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/3/11577334/dawn-of-war-3-warhammer-40k-announcement-sega-relic-games-workshop
In this article, Sega said "Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 3 will combine "the epic scale" of the original Dawn of War, released in 2004, with the customization and elite heroes of Dawn of War 2, Sega said in a release. Players will be able to command massive units like the Space Marines' Imperial Knight, the Ork Gorkanaut and the Eldar Wraithknight, and deploy destructive abilities like Orbital Bombardment, Ork Rokks and Eldritch Storm."
>>336398713
It's an announcement trailer. It announces that the game is going to exist. People enjoyed the previous games in the franchise, and are happy about the fact that there will be more. Are you actually autistic? Serious question.
>>336398737
1on1 and in small team games tau are one of the weakest factions in the game, you won't even get a path to enlightenment up before you die
>>336399079
>Wraithknight
Aren't they just wraithguard with melee equipment? Those were wraithlords in the trailer.
>Sega
It'll be DLC cancerfest rivaling the Swedish Jews. Look at what happened to Rome 2 and Attila for fucks sake.
>>336398937
He still seems to be a bit too much of a retard, with all the not telling his sons about chaos and such.
>>336399248
so its for people dumb enough to have enjoyed dow 2? that clears that up
>>336397661
Why is Toa Gali so angry now that she has put on the Kanohi Hau?
>>336397769
>hating the God-Emperor
>>336398937
See that thing in the lower left corner? That's a Wraithlord.
>>336399949
meant for >>336399291
>>336399291
>Still Bigger than a Spacemarine
Wraithguard
Wraithblades
>3 Stories tall
Wraithknight
Wraithseer
>Oh goodness, that's a mean looking building with arms and legs
Wraitknight
>Now this is just silly and unfair
Eldar Titans
>orks marines eldar and maybe nids
Call me when the Tau DLC hits
After the necron, IG, blood raven battle gear, new blood raven hero, necrons battle gear, chaos campaign, multiplayer map pack, ultramarine recolor, etc DLC is released of course.
>>336398596
>only three factions
unconfirmed and besides dow 1 and 2 only showed 2 races in their first trailers
>>336400226
>Taufags already this salty
AHAHAHA
>>336400238
Try looking at the steam page
>>336400536
Yeah, your baseless speculations are certainly more reliable than the official PR material by Relic
>>336400226
Stop whining
How do you think 'nid players feel
>With war raging and the planet under siege by the armies of greedy Ork warlord Gorgutz, ambitious Eldar seer Macha, and mighty Space Marine commander Gabriel Angelos, supremacy must ultimately be suspended for survival.
>and the planet under siege by the armies of greedy Ork warlord Gorgutz, ambitious Eldar seer Macha
>siege by the armies of greedy Ork warlord Gorgutz,
>Ork warlord Gorgutz
>GORGUTZ
AHM TROWIN' TEEF AT SKREEN AS 'ARD AS AH KAN, WERE'Z DA GAME AT?!
didn't Angelos die or something?
While it drives lore fags nuts, i'm happy they stuck with BR. Nothing annoys me more than not knowing a story to its completion.
>>336400854
At least the 'Nid mod for DoW1 is hilariously overpowered. And included in the UA mod, which is fucking amazing.
>>336401372
No, he got promoted to Chapter Master at the end of DoW2. Unless there was some book that got shat out to change that.
>>336398596
>Macha Confirmed
where?
in the trailer the only eldar were the banshees and the wraithlords
>>336401568
I thought he got fucked up by that demon thing in Retribution at the end?
When is the release date?
>>336401372
No, he became chapter master but i think dow3 might be a prequel though to angelos not having his augmentations.
>>336401617
>wraithlords
wraithknights, way big difference there
>>336401729
>look it up
fuck
that is a very significant difference
I don't see the bitching about the factions included, by the gameplay standards they're the best representation of typical RTS conventions
Eldar are the hard hitting fragile unconventional faction
Orks are the zerg rush
SM are the all rounders with a certain spin
Let Relic balance this simple formula before we start tacking on a whole bunch of shit, else we get a launch day CoH 2 situation, be patient and you'll get your $30 faction DLC eventually
>>336401631
He did, but then he got Marnaeus Calgar'd and his body is mostly cybernetic now.
>>336401617
Steam store page. Macha the evervirgin is leading the poncy knife-ears, Angelos is leading the bluhdrahvens, and GORGUTZ 'EAD 'UNTA, SKURRGE UV KRONUS, DA ARCHFIEND OF KORUVVA, BIGGEST AN' BADDEST DERE ISnext ta dat git Gazghkull, but 'e dun kount, 'ez too OP!
>>336397661
The trailer looks great, but the screenshots made me lose all the hype. It looks like a mobile game.
>>336402020
bet you know the reason its 3 factions is because they are hard lining the rock paper scissors mechanic for the factions.
>>336401631
Space Marine campaign (which I would assume to be canon) has him live but with more augmentations. Then becomes chapter master.
>>336397661
Sad i didn't get to see any chaos
>>336402363
I can't imagine that Chaos won't be included eventually. They're pretty central to the story of the Blood Ravens
>>336401184
I enjoyed this post.
>>336402436
I'm fucking sick of the blood ravens, just fucking use another chapter relic geez, as much as i hate them use the ultracucks or something
>>336401184
Im gonna have to be totally honest here.
I would have preferred bluddflagg. Even if it doesnt make much sense for a freebooter to be engaging a land war he was the best god damn warboss. Better than gorgutz if only just.
>>336397661
Don't care that much but holy fucking shit dat trailer
Completely encapsulates the brutality of the 40k universe that blew me away as a kid
The Beksinski stealing sucks, but it's great to see his art 'alive'.
>>336402436
Supposing the trailer isn't purely abstract/a dream, we did see a lot of khornate imagery. Skull thrones, etc.
>mfw we're entering Bizarro /v/ where DoW2 is now being worshipped to hell and back because people don't like the screenshots of DoW3
Don't get me wrong lads, DoW2 shits all over the first one in nearly every aspect, but the reaction is priceless. Compstoming shitters who begged day and night for basebuilding and larger scale the last 5 years are finally getting it, but in Relic's own words, the level of individual model detail and fidelity have to take a bit of a hit BECAUSE of the larger scale.
It's beautiful.
Keep the tears flowing.
>>336397661
ill get hype when they show an artstyle that isnt just starcraft 2
>>336402145
>rock paper scissors
What? That makes no sense.
None of those three races counter any of the others.
Orkz are melee oriented, but Eldar have Banshees and SM have assault marines and terminators to defend against them.
Eldar have great firepower, but assault marines and stormboyz can both drop in on them to tie them up.
SM well-rounded, but can hold back melee as well as exchange in a firefight.
Now, if it was, say, Necron < Tau < Orkz I might be inclined to agree.
Orkz are fast enough to get right on top of Tau and slaughter them without mercy
Tau take advantage of Necron's slow pacing and can gun them down before they reach them
Necrons are hardy enough to tie up Ork units long enough for their ranged units to kill them.
>>336402067
He is a Dreadnaught.
>>336399284
Only if you fuck up the initial Vespid harrassment.
>>336402603As pointy as my stick is for Gorgutz, Bluddflag is an acceptable replacement, so long as he gets Mistah Nailbrain as his witty sidekick.
>>336402363
Other than the skull throne you mean?
>>336402562
>hating Blood Ravens
why?
>>336397661
that smile because...
the emperor protects.
>>336402562
Bluhd Rehvens are the Dawn of War chapter, if you want other chapters go to other stories
>>336402842
No, that's Davian "the Cool" Thule.
Gabriel Angelos isn't in a dreanought. You get Davian Thule during the campaign in DoW2 as a dreadnought, but Angelos is fine all the way through Retribution, where Kyras turns him into Christopher Reeves and he gets all these nifty future-bitz put on him.
>>336402067
This picture is from the very end of Retribution.
>>336402562
Dawn of War is pretty much the story of the Blood Ravens. It's a little hard imagining playing as any other chapter.
>>336403037
I don't hate them, I'm just sick of them. It's ALWAYS them.
>>336403230
Don't worry anon, luckily______________________nobody cares
>>336403230
>always
I mean, there are a lot of Warhammer 40k games. We've only got 3 DoW games. Relatively speaking, Ultramarines and Dark Angels get more facetime in 40k vidya.
>>336402470
It's like this all the time at /tg/
>>336402749
Relic's excuse is bullshit.
Also, fuck you.
>>336403230
Well, the Blood Ravens are the posterboy of the DoW franchise. And making up a new chapter is easier and better than have story conflicts because you used other chapter.
>>336403365
>only 3 DoW games
7, actually. BRs appeared in all but one.
>>336401184
ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxcq4I0kAo
UNCOMPRESSED TRAILER TORRENT
http://www.gamersyde.com/download_warhammer_40_000_dawn_of_war_iii_announcement_trailer-37190_en.html
>>336403324you care
One day I will play a Chaos faction that isn't all "instead of killing loyalist scum, go kill this OTHER chaos faction that pissed us off somehow". Especially when it's Abaddon doing the ordering.
>>336403495
>7, actually. BRs appeared in all but one
Nigger are you really counting the expansion packs? Those are DoW 1 and 2. Standalone expansion for a game are still expansions for a game, mate.
That's like saying there are 12 Everquest 2s, or 7 Worlds of Warcraft.
>>336403230
Don't worry Eldarcuck, we'll give you your artifacts back eventually.
>>336403641
Khorne cares not from who the blood flows, only that it flows, anon.
When in the trailer does it show a skull throne? I skimmed through it again and didn't see anything
>>336403741
What're you talking about? If anything I'm a slaaneshi, who loves the Eldar?
>>336403641
That's Malal. Other than the "Abaddon doing the ordering part", because he doesn't want anything with Malal.
>>336403739
>Standalone expansion for a game are still expansions for a game, mate
Well, yeah, but they still should be mentioned separately.
>>336403841
Bollocks to that. I wanna strike fear into guardsmen as they watch their "Angels of Death" vanguard get shredded by 10000 year old Nightmares made flesh. If it was up to Khorneflakes we'd still be dick-slapping each other in the eye of terror.
>>336403928
i guess people interpret the towers that get smashed by the knights at the end as "skull thrones".
Really, though, the whole crater could potentially be interpreted as belonging to the realm of Khorne, as it is basically just a valley where people fight for all eternity and corpses fall out of the sky and a similarly described place is canon Warplore.
>>336403959
added to the collection
Are the Eldar actually going to accomplish dick this time? I'm sick of them getting their asses royally kicked while simultaneously playing the "mysterious chessmaster" card. I wanted to like them, but the series has thus far soured them to me.
This is a good start..
but where are the BEST marines?
>>336405158
you posted the wrong pic
>>336404839
Can't have the Muhreens losing.
>>336402749
>DoW2 is now being worshipped to hell and back
>you will never be this deluded
People still hate DoW2, and now it's going to be even better when this one hits.
>>336404839
What you've just posted there anon is the sole purpose of Eldar in 40k
>>336397661
Why are the muhreens so skinny legged this time?
>>336404720
Here, have another.
>>336399356
this is the first thing that crossed my mind after watching the trailer
>>336399356
pls buy
>>336405491
>slaanesh
my nigga
Animations on that trailer (and quality in general) is pretty shitty tbqh
>>336404839
eldar and orkz are plot devices to set up necrons and chaos respectively
here's a chart to better simplify the extremely complicated dawn of war storylines, taken from relic HQ
>>336406098
I just want to blast noise with buddies
>>336405946
Thanks
>Knights
MY DICK
>Inspiration from Dota 2
>Graphics look like Mobile garbage
I DONT KNOW HOW TO FEEL CAPN
Also I'm the guy who made the Noise Marine video and the Noise Marine holding coffee cup that says LOUDEST FAGGOT IN THE GALAXY
Can someone post that pic please because my harddrive crashed recently and I lost my original file.
>>336399284
wat
Tau are fucking S-tier in Soulstorm, along with Eldar. Specifically in 1v1s.
Have you played more than 5 minutes?
>>336406376
Fucking sad I won't see any slaanesh or emperor's children stuff on dow3
>>336406530
Maybe not at first, sega is guilty of dlc up the ass so there is hope for that later down the line.
>>336403230
>>336402562
>It's ALWAYS them.
Because the blood ravens were a mere chapter color scheme before DoW, the games and their expansions gave that chapter a somewhat good storyif you set aside the voice acting, the hair-esy and their recently diagnosis of kleptomania
Post yfw the golden age of RTS is back
I'm pretty hype even tho the ingame models look like MOBA trash
>that beksinski on the trailer
>>336399079
It says 3 factions on the steam page but that's about it. Maybe subject to change? I doubt it though.
>>336406807
>Cover is 4 barricades in a circle, looking soooo out of place
>not contextual like trenches or fucking holes in the ground
>its 'clearer' and more 'accessible'
Why did I hope? Just give me 40k Wargame so I can waste every spare minute I have.
>>336406807
is this a new GI joe game or some shit? looks retarded
>>336406691
I don't think so, people usually hate Slaanesh
>>336407124
>Just give me 40k Wargame
go away, that isn't want people want out of dawn of war
Nice trailer, shame the game will be fucking shit
>>336407182
RealIy? I never noticed that, maybe beacuse most friends of mine that are into wh40k appreciate Slaanesh.
>>336407297
But I'm a person anon and therefore am of the people.
>>336407138
>game based on a series of plastic action figures from the 80's
Might as well be G.I. Joe.
>>336407432
by tribunal of the people's court you've been demoted to second class citizen for your shit taste and incessant wishing for "40k Wargame"
now go away and bother the wargame devs to abandon act of aggression and make it because there's no saving that game
>>336407124
And no one's even using the cover except for the units too big for it.
>>336407346
Because the plenty of videos showing the gameplay reveal it, right?
>>336407628
ikr
I got into the beta and finished 3 games and then stopped.
>>336407687
>Relic
>Sega
>GW
Yeah, the trailer said enough
>>336407838
It didn't say anything about the game, other than the 3 races in it.
>>336406487
This one?
Also this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKUa0iREwE
Are the Living Saints in Soulstorm really that big in the fluff?
>All the bitching ITT
It's like you whiners were servants of Slaanesh and got so doped out that, now that you were kicked out of that nice apartment in the Warp, you can't feel pleasure anymore and are stuck grumbling about how you can't get fucked in the dickhole with a chainaxe again.
>>336409410
They're big girls indeed.
>>336409683
So if they appear in some expansion DLC thing, does that mean their xboox hueg unit would be the Living Saint?
>>336409802
>Sisters
>appearing
Next you'll ask for Zoats and Squats.
But not really, it'll most likely still be an Imperial Knight, possibly more burny and choppy than the others, and the Living Saint will be a big but not HUEG unit.
>>336401727
Prequel to what? He has a fucking terminator armor, all the shinies and fucking God Splitta.
He cannot be any more chapter master.
>>336409683
what's it like to have sex with a big girl for me?
>>336410618
I wouldn't know. My girlfriend is half my age.
>>336410276
Are there pics of Angelos in DoW3? I didn't see any
>mfw dow3 will have chaos undivided again
>>336397661
>that trailer
So brutal
>>336411249
Fucking imbecile. There are two screenshots and a whole articule about the game.
>>336397661
That is a fucking amazing trailer.
>>336406487
What the fuck are you talking about
>already so much shitposting
Didnt even know we would get a DoW3. Im happy.
Moreso because its DoW1 style. I like big fun battles.
>>336406487
I don't fucking believe you but here you go
Why are some warhammer games set in the future and some are like total warhammer which is set in the middle ages?
>>336402145
>tfw you realize that Relic has tried to copy Blizzard
>Literally SM = Terrans, Eldar = Protoss, Orks = Zerg
>>336406487
>>Inspiration from Dota 2
Post proofs, faggot. Where did they say that?
>>336414769
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000
>>336414840
You do know that Starcraft was suppose to be a Warhammer game, right? It just got sold to Blizzard and they changed it around. I bet you feel real dumb right now
>>336415063
This sounds like head canon.
Anyway limiting a 40k game between 3 carefully balanced races is dumb. 40k is all about lots of different possibilities and enemies/allies.
>>336415225
Look it up, boy.
>gorkanaut
>one of the dumbest and probably useless Ork models around
>may not get the big squig
>won't even get the morkanaut
nnnddiiid I just hear 'JOINING CHAOS'?
>>336415281
source or it didn't happen and this is just Chaos trickery
>>336415472
Yeah Deff Dreads are significantly smaller than Knights/Wraithknights I hope Relic doesn't think they're the same size.
Gorkanaut/Morkanaut/Mega Dreads are Knight size
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>>336397661
>no base building
shit game, keep moving.
I want to start reading the books.
Horus Heresy or Eisenhorn?
so
was it a weirdo dream sequence?
some random shithole in the warp?
orthe skull throne?
>>336414948
Not directly, no, but the PC gamer article left a sour taste in my mouth.
The moment you see the word accessible getting thrown around you fucking know it's a red flag.
>>336397661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbmDLVFAaec
Let the galaxy BURN!
>>336399553
You didn't answer the question so one has to assume you are. Time for you to leave
>>336416014
Eisenhorn is a good start, HH is at over 30 novels and isn't even finished yet.
>>336397661
>Hype
>After the turd that was DoW2
Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEGo41443iI
>>336406807
>HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR ART STYLE FAMILIA?
>Blood Angels, Eldar and Orks again
The hype seems to have died down since noon, so can this be a non flame war general thread?why are the models so damn SPENSIVE? I'm not even trying to get back into the mess that is tabletop, I just want to paint.
>>336416815
>t. Tau weeb
>>336416815
>being surprised that the 3 most popular factions are in
>Wraithknights and Imperial Knights
Who's hyped for large scale battles again?
>>336415904
It is base building you retard
>>336416815
>no imperial guard, the guys that actaully do 99% of the fighting
>People don't know the difference between Titans and Knights
Here, you, I made this so you wouldn't be confused anymore.
>>336416815
>Blood Angels
>>336409038
Thanks anon
>>336414674
Here you go senpai
>>336415806
The designs, the obvious similarities (down to the names of some shit), the fact that they were originally going to go with "Humans, Elves, and Orks IN SPACE" before going with "Humans, not-Elves, and not-Tyranids IN SPACE", the fact that Warhammer 40k has been around scince the eighties and the earliest Starcraft stuff came out in 1996
I want Sisters of Battle/Witch hunters, and with arco flagellants this time round.
>>336417412
My bad, off brand Blood Angels, "Blood Ravens" OC DO NOT STEAL
>Players build an army in an army creator similar to Magic games which is made BEFORE a match is found, thus lists cannot be tailored.
>Players have a set amount of points like in Total War, but there is an additional Forge Organization Chart like old 40k editions. This keeps thing balanced and prevents players from spamming the everloving fuck out of certain units.
>Additionally players can purchase fortifications which they place on their side of the map when deploying. Walls, forts, cannon emplacements, etc.
>Various game modes including deathwatch, point control, king of the hell, or siege modes. There's also lighter modes like Kill Team, with smaller amounts of points and units broken up into individuals.
>Starting races are Space Marines, Orks, Chaos, Eldar, and Necrons.
>DLC is whole new races which include map packs, along with Free DLC which expands the unit rosters of certain factions, like adding the Lost and the Damned or Daemons to Chaos and Exodites to Eldar.
>Campaign is just like Dark Crusade. W40K Risk.
>>336415904
Base building has been confirmed you dummy.
Don't embarrass yourself.
>>336416815
That's the main three moneymakers, that's the three they start with.
Although I agree, the imperial guard should be implemented first as a counter-mob force to the orks.
Orks are great at attacking, imperials are great at defending, and eldar are great at stealth/hit and run.
What are space marines? They're in the middle/slightly above average at everything, but smaller in number than everyone else.
I'll take ww1 soldiers with grit and tankspam over power armor anyday.
>>336416905
Get an ork nob sempai. They come with all sorts of customizy bits for about twenty dollars.
>>336416815
>Blood Angles
>>336417971
>imperial guard
No thanks
>>336417809
Quit saying things that won't happen.
Who /blacktemplars/ here?
>>336417809
Sounds fucking awful
>>336417809
Fuck no
>>336412746
Whoa nigga. Calm down.
All we know is that those are SPEHSS MEHREEN Heroes, maybe even the same one, and the one without Terminator Armor has a Thunder Hammer.
Man, they sure made the space marines look like bitches
Usually in the fluff SM's kill dozens to hundreds of orks for every one SM.
Being the very best of the best and over 100 years of non stop warfare experience tends to make these guys very dangerous.
>>336417569
I get the feeling that GW approached Blizz about making a 40k game after how War raft worked out, but early on they decided to hold off on it. Blizz still had assets so they turned some stuff around and made StarCraft.I'm okay with that, since I like both DoW and SC.
>>336418683
>Almost get blown away by a slight breeze
>Ambushed and slaughtered by Orks
The Codex Astartes most definitely does NOT support this action.
>>336417313
You could've just asked for better blood splatter effects in your game if you wanted imperial guards.
>>336418369
Oh yea sure, he just happpens to look just like Gabriel, also he just happens to be holding the Godfucker and he also happens to looks like a chapter master but he is NOT Gabriel because this anon say so.
>>336418880
they made it look like there just happens to be millions of space marines to throw away
>>336418683
Space Marines are garbage, every race have something better than then and for far cheaper.
Fucking Fire Warrios can destroy a full tactical squad.
I just wish the mechanicus would start inventing instead of just searching. They're basically scavengers, and their ignorance cause the death of billions of machine spirits.
>>336419235
>Using TT as an actual comparison of a units in fluff abilities.
Anon, you know better, come on.
>>336419456
Amen brother
>>336419465
In fluff plasma weaponry destroy marines like its nothing, plasma weaponry that the Tau have like they are nothing.
>>336397661
>mfw DoW III will finally happen and be more like the 1st
>>336419591
Get this falseflagging heretic out of my face.
>>336419591
the rest of the candidates couldn't handle insults, bernie is just a cranky old hippie, and Hilary is bought by america's enemies. He is the least bad choice of this shitty election
>>336419337
Yes, it makes everything rather grim and the events that take place very dark. It's almost as if there was some overarching theme of the setting that makes many of the factions behave in ways that are just shadows of themselves back in their glory days now blinded by superstition and hate causing the decay and collapse of a once mighty empire.
It's probably just my imagination.
>>336419816
Funny how the artist who made that image is a mexican
>>336419941
As long as he isn't illegal desu
>>336419905
>>336419816
>>336419783
>implying a senile old man can run a fucking country
Americucks sure are dumb.
>>336419858
No, that's pretty much it. It's a time where every problem is solved by strength and ignorance.
It's always fucked with me, and I have trouble liking 40k because of it. But then I remember it's a game, but games can still depress me.
The lack of forward movement in MechWarrior also depressed me. Living in a time of great machines that you can use but not understand is gut-wrenching.
>>336420028
Nobody was talking about Bernie anon.
>>336420028
>calling "mein drumpf" senile old man
>Bernie exists
video games
>>336420148
Yeah because 9/11 is the same as 7/11, right?
>>336410148
Sisters were in DoW1, no reason to think they won't end up in dow3 after a couple rounds of DLC
As far as their lord of war, it'll either be a made up unit like a buffed up saint or some form of holy imperial knight
>>336416084
Accessible in the sense that you can tell what the hell is going on in the giant blob army battles. It helps to finish reading something before you fly off the handle due to autism regarding a certain word.
>>336397661
I understand why people hate DoW2 after DoW1. But what I don't understand is why you can't just like DoW2 for what it was. I loved equipping my dudes with new gear and the spectacle of being just a couple of space marines kicking all the ass.
I hope that DoW3 gets the best of both worlds in a "Warcraft 3" style of gameplay.
>>336419639
>The anti heavy infantry weapon is effective against heavy infantry
No shit Gue'la
Even then Tau plasma is slightly weaker and only equipped on their battle suits. They don't have a form that their infantry can use like Marines do. They would also have to hit the Marines who are retardedly fast for their size and very effectively shooting back with similar weaponry.
>>336397661
If Angelos is Chapter Master now, doesn't this pretty much make the Space Marine ending the canon ending for Retribution?
>>336420424
All I want is for troops not to get stuck on each other like the three stooges.
>>336397661
>mfw chaos will be the first army DLC
>>336420434
The campaign was a lot of fun, but the multiplayer was pretty flat, not to mention the AI being fucking braindead.
>>336420496
Chaos may end up in the base game. They may just be holding off on the reveal for now.
That body mound in the trailer is definitely the Skull Throne of Khorne.
>>336420434
I would like that campaign aspect but it apply to all of my troops, not just have a squad. So say I get beefed up armor or pre heresy for my regular marines, anytime I get a reg marine they pop out with that armor.
>>336420218
711 is the first responding firehouse on 9/11 you donut
GET HIM OUT
>>336420589
>Souls of Orks and Eldar going to Khorne
Are you sure?
Are you really sure?
>>336420589
I hope so.
What i really want is all the relevant armies in.
>IG
>Tau
>Necros
>Tyranids
>>336420856
Nobody said anything about souls. Just their bodies. Just their skulls.
>>336420583
I guess that explains why I like it so much. I never played the multiplayer.
>>336420910
Doesn't a Khorne worshipper need to take their skulls for them to go to the skull throne?
>>336399079
>Ork Rokks
>>336420905
They'll all be in eventually. Tau for sure because they're gonna wanna get the Stormsurge in there to punch up with some knights. Tyranids can probably field a Hierodule or something similar.
I want my sisters back though. It's probably not all that likely, but a man can dream.
>>336419639
In fluff pulse rifles actually have trouble against power armor and space marines frequently survive hails of it.
>>336416905
>why are the models so damn SPENSIVE
You have no idea what suffering is
Try having a Heresy army and having to spend $100+ per tank
>>336421035
>I want my sisters back though
This, its about time they made another appearance, dont think ill bother with the game till they are added.
>>336397661
I'm actually fucking terrified, because I can't imagine how they're going to fuck it up this time.
Im not a 40K kinda person but am interested... who am I supposed to be rooting for in this game?
>>336421509
>necrons are favorite race
>their models look bland and black and green is the only decent combo
>want something a bit bigger
>anything interesting costs half a month's salary
>GW jewery prevents anyone from selling online
>>336420905
Don't forget that its going to be shitty newcrons. Kill me now.
>>336421589
Amen brother, the world needs more badass chicks in power armor
>>336421796
The Imperium are the go-to good guys, but there really isn't a single race that's on more morally sturdy grounds than the others. Pick whoever you like the best and root for them.
>>336405531
I know that's how it normally is, but they got shitstomped in the trailer
>>336421796
Yes...If you are human then pick Space Marine or Imperium of Man unless you are an edgy faggot then it's Chaos. Everything else is xenoscum.
>>336421796
whichever one you like.
>>336419456
Is that a fucking tyranid claw scythe?
Who drew this? It reeks of fanart.
>>336417971
Where has it been confirmed, I've been looking around for it and I can't see it, only hints about it being confirmed always lead back to 4chins.
>>336419235
space marines are also the unit that can counter anything.
>>336422520
use google nigger.
>>336423187
Thank you for completely useless suggestion
>>336423340
I found it by directly googling "base building dawn of war 3" you useless fucking faggot.
>>336418078
that seems very familiar.
the body language
>>336422178
it is fanart, you idiot
>>336397661
That building is sure zdzisław beksiński like.
>>336423452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOpdEW3HWxs
Step away from the relics, no one has to die under suspicious circumstances today
Yeah, that's right. If anyone asks, you gifted this to us, you got that
>>336424334
I appreciate how they made the Eldar armor actually look detailed and alien in the trailer.
>>336421796
My favorite two are the Necrons and the IG.
The SMs and humans have basically come down to one extremely Xenophobic race
Chaos want the Galaxy and the False Emperor to burn. There are different Chaos Gods who have different goals
Eldar are Space elves with loads of ancient relics and act like elves do "we're better than everyone but lose ALL THE TIME"
Orks are a big dumb war race. Tons of fun to read about and play. There will never be peace if there are orks (also seem to get manipulated by Chaos a lot)
Don't know much about Tau. I think they are robots/have advanced so that the robots do all the fighting
Necrons are the never ending death march to consume the galaxy. Best comparison I can think of are the collectors from Mass Effect.
I believe I read someth where that they have a Skaven like race in the 40k universe, but they are slaves to man
>>336424761
You're not very up to date on your necrons, my friend.
They aren't like that anymore.
Even if it ends up being a DLC ridden cancerfest, at least we should get a sweet new CGI intro.
>>336424839
They're wacky Egyptian mad scientists now right?
>>336424839
Let him live the lie just a little longer
>>336417332
I like xSephirothx
>>336424982
>>336424839
I admit I haven't read up on my Warhammer in quite a while. Got back into OG Warhammer for a bit.
>>336425176
You poor, poor thing
>>336416457
Thanks bro. There's gonna be good use for this.
>>336402749
>Don't get me wrong lads, DoW2 shits all over the first one in nearly every aspect
Except balance, sound design, unit variety, AI, control and pathing, yeah, it looks pretty,
>>336415704
SMASH IT
>>336402749
>DoW2 shits all over the first one in nearly every aspect
Fuck no dow2 was casual trash
Cool. Too bad it's an RTS.
>>336426729
Balance, sound design, AI, pathing, and control are all vastly superior in 2, nice load of bullshit you posted there.
>>336428626
lolno
>>336428626
objectively wrong.
>>336428053
What do you want, a fucking card game?
>>336428826
Not that guy. But in all seriousness GW is retarded for not hopping on the CCG bandwagon when they could have. Though their distribution methods are shit and their prize support almost non-existent. They should ally with Wizards and roll out a 40K CCG and make some of that sweet sweet Magic money.
SKITARII COME ON RELIC YOU CAN DO IT PUT THEM IN
>>336397661
>Blood Angels getting brutalized for once
Finally
>>336428626
>Has no stance system
>Most units are missing attack ground
>units aggravatingly refuse to take cover how you want them to
>Melee is utterly broken, units take seconds to reach each other because of the bullshit way the engine works.
>Ork lines and SFX are objectively worse, with as few as two voice actors doing all the lines for Ork units. Many times, sound effects simply won't trigger because of the way the frustratingly retarded engine works.
>That entire engine
>Balance is oriented on much shorter routines of RPS, so combat feels janky and weird. The game is actually more reliant on rushing vehicles than in the build ordering, base building DoW 1.
>AI has no idea what to do with itself, whether its unit AI, or pathing AI, Vehicle pathing AI, or general skirmish AI.
At least in DoW classic, tanks would orient first, and then slowly push units out of the way until they got where they wanted to go. In DoW2, they fucking go everywhere trying to reach their destination because it uses an engine transposed from the god awful CoH games.
>>336429259
i love smugmarine
>>336429259
Sleep tight raven
>>336429259
ssshhh don't wake him
>>336429259
I can't wait for the DoW is Dead edits.
>>336429306
>implying we will ever be able to bring glory to the Omnissiah in a game
Unless there's one I'm unaware of.
I just want kroot
Let me preach his name!
I feel like the Space Marines got shit on way too much in the trailer, every other scene was a marine getting his arms ripped off or a dreagnought getting fucked.
>>336429872
I could say the same thing about the Eldar in the DoW2 opening.
>>336416014
Assuming you're still here
Start with the First 3 HH books, then start to branch out into 40k depending on your favourite faction
I can reccommend book for anyone here, i've got over like 150 BL books (and 3 3k armies)
OH HELLO!
IT IS I, CATO SICARIUS! HAHAHAHHA
NO ONE IN THIS THREAD CAN BEST ME, CATO SICARIUS! BECAUSE I, CATO SICARIUS AM THE BEST THERE EVER IS!
>>336429313
>>Blood Angels
>>336429872
I'm fine with this. Space Marines are easily the bottom of the scum-barrel of the setting.
>>336430023
>This planet is ours, bitch!
>>336429872
That was a knight-class titan but w/e
I doubt this will get three expansions, so we're probably just getting Chaos and Necron/Nids at best.
>>336431208
>I doubt this will get three expansions,
Unless it's SS tier campaign, it'll sell well
I cannot wait for DE dlc
>>336397661
Shity base building
Not point based army battels like in tt.
Only 3 factions. Starcraft meme.
Not following codex army guidlines.
It will be shit.
>>336431354
>Codex guidelines
>this century
>good
>>336431353
>he thinks DE has a chance
>>336431513
Yes you hipstar faggot.
>>336431563
>Not including the faction with some of the best looking models in the entire IP
:^)
>>336431354
Starcraft ripped off 40k, you child
>>336431670
>implying that's not Tau
:)
>>336431680
And so you fuck up?
Story is known.
No need to copy it and even so obvoius.
>>336431804
>muh mecha
>better than sleek and spiky space elves
>>336431620
>Wardian Codex
>Good
>Best factions:
Imperial Guard, Dark Eldar
>Great factions:
Tau, Tyranids, occasionally Orks
>Mediocre factions:
Everything else
>Boring faggot garbage factions:
Space Marines
DoW 3 will suck until two or so expansions are out based entirely on rosters. And that's being generous and assuming that Relic's learned their lesson.
>>336432092
>that supreme taste
>>336431620
Opps I guess I'm wrong.
Sorry Matt.
>only four factions
What is this bullshit?
>>336432092
>implaying they learn
>implaying the trinety of balance will be destroyed
>>336431964
Thats why theres allways a codex mod around. As if thats not a hint.
Allways inserting factions that got left out.
Again a hint.
If relic would stick to it they would not have gone broke.
Well its time now for sega.
>>336432314
3.
Where is the 4th?
Who?
>>336432092
Top tier
Orks, Imperial Guard, Space Marines, Tau
Okay tier
Tyranids
Shit tier
Everything else
>>336398737
Tau were strong if you let them do their thing for a long time. Same with necrons. If you let them expand as much as they wanted, they were strong. But both tau and necrons were shitty as fuck early on.
Seriously. Space muhreens were so horrendously broken, just slap a chappy on a squad and its literally immortal, and later on drop a few drednaughts, terminators or just rush some grey knights into the enemy and fuck him in all kinds of ways.
Also those days of snipers having perma skuls and 4 sniper rifles that instakilled units. Enjoy your no morale troops.
what if its bad
>>336397661
I'm alright with 3 factions on launch as long as they do a good job of expanding it from there. Chaos and IG are obviously musts. Tau, Necron and Nids would be nice. Anything beyond that is gravy.
>>336432970
DoW1 was bad too. Seriously, that path finding and balance were something from the 90s
DoW2 was bad as well.
All 40k games are fundamentally bad. Dont matter though becauserule of cool
>>336432092
>hating SM
Sure they're the main faction but hating them to be contrarian is ridiculous. They're not my favorite faction but they're sure as hell in the top 3, they're popular for a reason.
>every DoW thread is endless shitflinging between fans of 1 and 2
Why can't we just enjoy the games that we enjoy and hope that 3 will be a good game too?
Only stuff I know about Warhammer is from the games. Whats that Space Marine mech with the giant chain sword and where is my beloved dreadnought?
>>336420289
I intensely dislike the Sisters because they just feel like female IGs in big armor, I would rather we get an Inquisition-based army over them (I hate the Inqiuition but it would be a lot more interesting to play)
>>336433274
That is a Knight, it's the step between dreadnought and titan. Your beloved dreadnought is most likely not finished enough to be in screenshots, and they wanted to advertise knights so it's not in the trailer. I'm sure it'll be in the final product.
>>336433274
That, anon, is an Imperial Knight. It is the smaller, more aristocratic cousin of an Imperial Titan.
Do not worry, the boxnought will be in game.
>>336433125
Could you explain one such reason?
The strongest parallel between my likes and dislikes in the setting is Imperial Guard at the top and Space Marines at the bottom.
Space Marines are mary sues all but lobotomized towards human motivations. They're robots that command is too scared might turncoat, so they dull everything about them that could possibly make one an individual character and brainwash them.
Despite this they apparently turn to Chaos for some reason, which is centered around sensation and emotion; both of which are all but gone from Space Marines.(Apparently the Primarchs may be compelling characters according to the licensed third party stuff, but I don't have any interest to read it to begin with. And it would be besides the point as still standing on just the 1st party content other factions actually manage to be appealing.)
Imperial Guard are just normal lads that stand up against all the horrors of the setting.
Sometimes they break as is expected, but sometimes they do not. Several orders of magnitude more impressive than the Coward Marines.
>>336433540
>Space Marines are mary sues
Stop reading right there
Dont use terms you dont understand
>>336433486
There's two Dreadnaughts right there
>>336406807
One is throwing his hands in the air like he just don't care
>>336433126
I loved both 1 and 2 and I have enough faith in Relic that this will not be a fuckup. Obviously I'll wait until gameplay to make a judgment but I believe.
I've been waiting for this game for years.
>>336419235
>Space Marines are garbage
Fag, bet you like Slaanesh too
>>336433540
>Vidya
SM > IG in terms of use
>TV/Movie
IG >> SM in terms of use
>Space Marines are mary sues
No
>>336433540
Except the marines aren't lobotomized, and they can feel rage and happiness and other emotions just as much as regular humans.
They've just been thoroughly hypnotized and indoctrinated in their early years (before they grow out of it) to focus on emotions pertaining to
a) venerating the Emperor of Man
b) bringing swift death to the enemies of Man
>>336433608
Ah, well never mind then. There we go.
>>336433687
I didn't say they were lobotomized. I alluded to it as a means of exaggeration.
>>336423452
Meet the heavy
>>336433540
Well, it's hard to separate SM, IG, and the Imperium as a whole. The Imperium is the most interesting faction in 40k by far, in my opinion. I assume you share this opinion to some degree since you like IG.
SM is like an entire faction full of commissars; everybody fucking loves the Emperor, manly phrases, their faith is their shield, etc. Visually I think the different troop types are more interesting than the various IG footmen. IG has better vehicles as a whole but dreadnaughts are some of the fucking coolest things in 40k.
>>336433540
>Space Marines are mary sues all but lobotomized towards human motivations. They're robots that command is too scared might turncoat, so they dull everything about them that could possibly make one an individual character and brainwash them.
Every single thing you said here is utterly false
They have a fanatical love of the Emperor. Thats it. They all still have wildly different personalities and traits, often disagree and fight among themselves as to the best course of action in any situation, in terms of power they are stronger than IG for sure but are still matched by most other basic units across the galaxy.
>>336433773
Regardless, the emotionless, helmeted (and thus faceless) marines are the newly inducted battlebrothers, most of the time.
If they have enough purity seals or are important enough to not wear a helmet, they've pretty much outgrown their FOR THE EMPEROR phase and are proper characters.
>>336433586
>Random pathetic little human in a universe of horror that is a special unique kid apparently that is uplifted and folded over a thousand times to become 'the perfect warrior'.
Where exactly am I off?
>>336433773
>Space Marines are mary sues all but lobotomized towards human motivations. They're robots
Yes you did you backtracking coward
>>336432998
I would rather see another xenos race that didn't get into DoW 2 get into DoW 3 before Chaos/IG. Necrons or Tau would be great because they both didn't get any faction love in DoW 2. Fuck the nids - boring race who only got in because everyone whined that they weren't in DoW 1
I only want them to add Tau so they can canonically get the shit slapped out of them yet again
>>336433983
The average troop of all factions can obliterate a space marine, only exception being a IG but even then he could get lucky and win. They are not Mary Sue's in the slightest. They are also not author inserts or have unrealistic abilities in comparison to any other faction, particularly when your enemies are genetically perfect fungi that live for war, immortal robots with self regenerating armor and literal demons.
Also, its called a fucking Gary Stu when its a man you uneducated twat.
>>336420992
Not if they die in combat on a planet desecrated in Khorne's name.
>>336434042
Realistically I think if we have a 4th faction, it'll be Necrons as the main villains. Otherwise they might not be in for a while, because I see the priority order as;
Chaos
IG
Tau
Necron
Nids
DE
SoB
>>336434002
You literally copy pasted it yourself buddy.
>All but
>>336434197
>Tau above DE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336434002
>all but
Not that guy but calm down, he phrased it correctly.
>riptides might finally appear in a video game
>>336434243
>>336434250
>back tracking and samefagging to save face
Jesus thats pathetic, end yourself
>>336434249
I like Dark Eldar just fine but come on, that's pretty clearly the popularity list. Chaos and IG are completely essential, and then Tau and Necron are the most popular of the remaining factions. It's not my personal want list, it's what I realistically expect.
Also, DoW1 pretty much followed that order exactly except without nids.
>>336417332
>letting the Emperor's Titan rust
>>336434326
Calm down.
>>336434405
I can use paint too
Stop getting so mad I called you out on your bullshit and just admit you were wrong. Its pathetic you are trying to save face this hard.
>tfw no more oldcrons
>tfw Necron DLC will be newcrons
>>336434170
Oh no I got two letters wrong. I can never show my face at tvtropes.org™ ever again.
Not only that but my grave error caused the communication to fail outright. I forgot human beings require complete mathematical accuracy regarding idioms for communication to be possible.
>>336434519
Yeah, I expected you to reply with some witty post after I shut you down. Next time dont use terms you dont understand, and dont post about 40k when you obviously dont even know anything about any of the factions.
>>336434492
Time for bed I think, champ.
>>336434496
Based Newcrons
Can't wait to hear the Overlord voices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZtytj8c77o
>>336434519
>claims Space Marines are Mary Sue
>Anon posts showing they aren't
>LE EPIC MEME REPLY
Outstanding
>>336434623
Whats next, a your mom joke? Grow up and stop getting mad over being wrong.
>>336433983
An average Mary Sue is
>an author's self insert
>unconditionally loved by everyone for no reason
>good at everything for no reason
Space Marines are
>well yeah, self insert thing is kinda true, especially for chapters like Ultramarines and Space Wolves
>feared and begrudgingly respected by most denizens of Imperium, loved by no one. Except maybe Ultramarines, those guys run their own idyllic little empire.
>the most stories about space marines are ones of losses, last stands and pyrrhic victories. Space marines lose a lot, but they do so in a badass way, that's Imperial Fist's whole shtick. The only chapter that never loses and is best at everything is Ultramarines.
>>336434496
>it's a Necron faction that's still silent Terminators without a flamboyant, all singing, all dancing Lord
>>336434692
>Necron DLC is a campaign about Trazyn dicking about the galaxy stealing artifacts
>>336434608
>>336434696
I dropped the mary sue topic, I concede it. But I also took offense to added citation from a pedantry handbook.
>>336434810
Considering Chaos won in Warhammer, and if 40k gets plot progression Chaos will likely win there too I dont think you could call Space Marines self inserts.If anything GWS are self inserting as Chaos since all they do is fuck everything up for everyone all the time
>>336435032
While Chaos will "Win", unless GW thinks they want to warp40k into a sigmarine(I don't know where they would even go from 40k) franchise and you get an End Times equivalent; the plot won't really move.
Fairly common with all sorts of fanfiction that self-inserts imagined to be talented and appreciated in area X will continue to be needed there indefinitely.
>>336421796
There are generally four to choose from. You pick whoever you want to root for.
You have the Empire, who all root for a decaying skeleton on a golden throne. Saying anything negative about the empire or the skeleton is heresy and expect to be purged you scum.
Then you have the edgy Chaos guys who generally worship these even edgier chaos gods. They like to piss in the Empires cornflakes for a laugh. I don't know much else about them after that.
DEN YEW AVE DE ORKZ! DIS IZ DA BEST FACT-SHUN IN DA WHOAL UV' DA UNIVURSE! WE LUV KILLIN'. WE'S ALSO THE BIGGUST FACTIN IN DA UNIVURSE! WAAAAGH! They literally don't even know what peace means because they were created for the sole purpose of murder and destruction.
Last of all, you have the Eldar, who're a bunch of space-elves. They mainly fucked day in and day out until all their fetishes got really out of hand and all their kinky shit created the new fourth Chaos demon Slaanesh. Now, the Eldar are split between the Dark Eldar, who still fuck day in and day out, and the more """""""pure"""""" Eldar who want their race to be the over-populating force they once were.
I have doubts about the graphics but the trailer looked grimdark as fuck so hopefully they are more placeholder than not
>>336434989
Based fucking Trazyn, he is a real ladykiller
>>336435371
>unless GW thinks they want to warp40k into a sigmarine(I don't know where they would even go from 40k) franchise and you get an End Times equivalent; the plot won't really move.
It totally will move, the moment 40k sales start slipping
Its going to be something like
>Big E wakes up
>New OP Space Marines are made, bigger and better than ever
>Every other faction gets new units because [plot point] so GWS can sell new miniatures
>[insert lots of people dying]
>Something something, Big E and Chaos duke it out, entire universe gets destroyed
>Not so subtle hint of infinite cycle
Thanks assholes, I was gonna sleep tonight but now I'm too hyped. Tabletop Super Heavy's are confirmed which is sick as shit.
Baneblades were already in older games so I'm not sure how they'll top it for them. But seeing Obelisks or Tesseract Vaults, and Engines of Khorne is gonna be the fucking raddest shit. I haven't been this excited in years.
>>336435396
You forgot the Tau, the progressive perfect caste system that actually existed for awhile in such a state before GW realized that they weren't grimdark so they added mind control to their popes and implied illuminati.
Or are you just giving examples for each race expected to be in the launch? I assumed not based on your inclusion of both Eldar and all Imperial factions within their own category.
>>336435610
>Engines of Khorne
Soon
>Gorgutz is back
When the Orks inevitably lose, can he please die with some dignity? Or at least get so fucked up everyone thinks he's dead?
All his running away is making Orks look bad
>>336435542
He really knows how to win the girls over.
>>336435561
>Chaos join forces with Necrons in order to overcome the Imperial-Tyranid alliance, as the Emperor and the Hive-mind seek legitimate divine manifestations as powerful as the Chaos Gods.
Meanwhile Macha loses her virginity to Vect and the Eldar are reunited to face the threat of the Tau blowing up the webway.
Here is a model from the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for the original Dawn of War that they could adapt into a new miniature variant.
>>336397661
The games looks pretty shit
The art direction is abysmal and the sole reason I have no interest. I'm sure I could find other reasons to dislike or like the game but that's enough to stop me from looking further
>>336406807 this shit is Halo Wars levels of contrast, and it was already too much for fucking Halo
>>336436191
Holy shit, It really looks like Halo Wars.
>>336436191
That reminds me, any news for Halo Wars 2 yet?
>mfw Sega said they're bringing the base building and massive scale wars from DO1 mixed with in with game play from DO2
help, please dont fuck up please, this and Warhammer Total are the only two games I'm excited for this year.
>>336435680I thought he just meant whom to root for in Warhammer games in general. I didn't consider the Tau because they don't really have a lot of story to themor at least from what I know of the series. I also tend to avoid the assbustingly loud arguements about themand the necrons and C'tan are basically fucking dead anyhow.
>>336436191
I swear if this saturation bullshit is to make the game more TV friendly for a console release I'm going to shit my ass off
>>336436339
In some ways Dawn3 has MORE saturation than Halo wars. Here's a snow level at night, notice the geens between pic related and >>336406807
>>336436590
No idea, didn't care for Halo wars, played the demo and dropped after 10 minutes.
>>336436891
I don't get it, it just ruins the aesthetic. People aren't morons, we don't need thsi much color is distinguish between enemies adn allies
>>336436839
Yeah I got that, I'd exclude the Necrons and Tyranids as factions to champion the cause of, as they're roughly equivalent to basic forces of nature.
Tau paint a very pretty picture and do somewhat originally stand out as a legitimately good place in which to reside. They're very small players regarding size and relevance though.
>>336436740
I don't think DoW'll be out this year. Or have they actually specified a release date with their announcement for some reason?
>>336399949
No it isn't.
It's a Wraith Blade.
Knights and their equivalents for other races can only mean one thing:
Tau DLC featuring Riptides, R'varnas, Ta'unars, DoW-donut-steel new battlesuits and ballistic suits; the entire giant robot party.
I just hope they won't fuck up the voice acting too...
>>336437276
>Riptides
PLEASE NO
>>336437327
Please yes
>>336406807
Wait what, that's the actual graphics?
I thought I was looking at a mod...
>>336437327
>>336437383
>mfw Ghostkeels
>and Stormsurge>and Supremacy
>>336437378
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
>>336437378
it's a pre-alpha, anon.
>>336437378
Gives me a little hope that my toaster can run it.
>>336437378
how you want your dow3 senpai?
>>336437460
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>336401729
>>336401842
>However Wraithknights differ from their lesser cousins as they also hold a living Eldar pilot within
>These pilots are rare and unusual warriors who were each born a twin
Holy shit
>>336437550
pic related is the "alpha" of Dawn of War 2
this screenshot was released a year before it came out in 2008.
>>336437854
Let's go fishing
>>336437854
Isn't it that the wraithknight is piloted by an Eldar, and the wraithknight itself is powered by their dead twin's soulstone?
>>336437065
>Tau
>Good place to be
>Fucking Orwellian nightmare with mind control every god damn where
I'll take the Imperium thank you very-much.
>>336432462
You didn't see the Chaos marine in the fucking trailer?
>>336437679
And guess what, we don't even have an estimated date for when DoW3 is going to be released, it could be 4 fucking years away for all we know.
>>336400357
>3 factions in campaign
there will be a 4th antagonist faction
there will be a 4th faction
relic entertainment
etc
>>336437276
>>336437327
>>336437383
FOR
THE
GREATER
GOOD
>>336434989
As someone who likes Trazyn, I want this to happen.
>what if we shoot it and let it know we're here
![99020187137_TauKX139TaunarSupremacyArmourBundle03[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LMkppTm.jpg "99020187137 TauKX139TaunarSupremacyArmourBundle03[2]")
>>336438304
>no Supremacy Armor
>>336438642
Fuck I hate this thing. Big, slow and shit mechs can suck my dick
>>336438747
Tau mechs look so fucking cool but seem like they would get shit on so quick by anything
Stealthsuits look dope though
>>336438747
Big and slow? Definitely.
Shit? Say that to its 25 barrels (and 24 rockets) of fuck-you, senpai.
>>336438856
By being slow it's shit. Mechs made for mobility are inherently better
>>336438951
I agree, I prefer riptides and crisis suit too.
>>336438951
>it's a "my superior speed and agility will surely best that hulking brute" episode
Nice meme, fampai.
>>336438838
>would get shit on so quick by anything
this.
>rocket to the foot joint
>immobilised
>>336438553
>implying an honourable Imperial Knight would backstab anyone
>>336439273
That's what energy shielding and armor is for, anon.
What, you don't think those Earth Caste eggheads are going to slap a bunch of guns on a mech without protecting it?That being said, bipedal mech are fucking retarded when you start taking anything half-way seriously, and any critiques against tau mechs can be levied just as well against imperial stuff. Hovertanks and quadra+pedal mechs are much better.
>>336439273
>rocket to a tiny target that is constantly moving around unlike the fixed position of wheels or treads
>>336406807
is this for real, source?
>>336439441
That's why I prefered tau before they went into large scale mechs. (riptide was a mistake)
When the crisis suit was the largest mech and its size was more for the power for its jump packs and weapons.
I preferred it when the tau compensated for its lack of titan class weaponry with superior aircraft. When their answer to ancient Titans was an easily modified and massproduced railgun platform that could scream into the battlefield at supersonic speeds and blast apart any large sized titan.
>>336397661
for some reason it reminds me of those dream sequences in The Revenant, when his wife is speaking to him
>>336432092
>Having such sub-par taste
>>336440058
To be fair, the other factions have loads of damn good AA. I'd have preferred if Tau went into either super heavy hover-tanks, or if they started making giant ass spider mecha in the vein of pic related.
>>336440058
>riptide was a mistake
You were a mistake.
>>336440058
Air power will always have the problem of weight and energy constraints. Even the least efficient walker designs will consume less energy than a flier of any sort, especially when it comes to just standing around.
So now you can create a really big tank to carry around the ludicrously supersized cannon needed to take down an Imperial Titan which will have problems with terrain, or you go for a compromise and settle for legs. Clearly the hover technology that their conventional vehicles aren't cut out for the job; perhaps it suffers from the same energy efficiency problem, or perhaps floating around in the air isn't so good when you want to fire a really big gun.
>>336440457
Then stick a bunch of extra legs on it so you can carry bigger guns, and so that losing 1 won't totally hobble the mech.
Also, keep in mind, it's assumed that air combat is actually relatively rare in 40k, seeing as all the AA every faction have. One faction having unmitigated air superiority, or having enough control to send bombers in, is a rare occurrence.
>>336433126
As long as the writing is good, I'll be happy regardless of it being more like 1 or 2.
Hopefully they learned some lessons from the previous games tho.
>>336440457
the thing about tau airpower, is that most of the time its also its space power, and its craft are capable of orbital flight as well as atmospheric. so none of those things really apply if it has enough power to get into orbit. and unlike a ground based vehicle being able to double as an space superiority weapon is pretty big bonus.
>>336437378
>game based on toys
>'its looks like toys, guys!'
yeah right..
>>336441091
According to the first look, it was done on purpose even.
>>336440683
>and its craft are capable of orbital flight as well as atmospheric
This isn't unique to the Tau
>even /tg/ thinks /v/ is stupid for caring about base building and large scale
Hohoho
>>336441264
That thread is absolutely correct, /v/ has been by far the worst board on this website since at least 2009.
>>336440576
More legs is also an energy problem. Bipedalism is the most efficient walker design there is.
So as long as the walker is hiding behind sufficient cover, its legs are the last things anyone will be able to shoot. The slav squat and the kneel is one of best tactical maneuvers it can do. All of this plus the fact that Tau walkers all seem to have some seriously skinny ankles which will be hard to hit, while their upper legs appear as thickly armored as their torso.
>>336426042
Stealing this
>>336441427
We really are. I wish we could stop being so shitty.
>>336441190
I know its not, but its a point that makes it better than any land based weapon regardless of race.
>>336399651
>calling him a "God"
Get the fuck out of here, Heretic. If you listened to a word the fucker had to say when he wasn't bound to that throne you'd know he's not a God, and despises religion.
>>336441516
>Magpies
>Stealing
You mean 'borrowed'
E3 Gameplay mybe?
>>336441603
HERETIC! IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR YOU SHALL BURN!
PRAISE THE EMPEROR!
>>336441603
And there are only a handful of people in the galaxy who know this.
Even Space Marines tend to revere him as a godlike figure. Not all of them do, but some.
>>336441603
Actually, it was revealed to be a lie that the Emperor told the Imperium to protect them. Ask any Black Templar.
>>336416229
>>336429921
Red Scorpions are common now these days I see.
>>336441496
Bipeds are the most efficient at standing and walking. But they pivot easily when impacted (leverage), and need extra force to stay standing.
Quads solve this, or deployed stabilizing struts.
>>336424715
gives wraithbone some meaning and proper aestethics
>>336424715
>>336441893
Agreed.
It looks fucking fantastic.
Daily reminder that all these game releases are happening because of GW's declining sales.
40K tabletop is dying and this means one thing.40K End Times
What's the difference between the Warhammer universe and the Warhammer 40k universe?
I only played Vermintide and I recognize Chaos as a element in that game so is Warhammer just a prequel to Warhammer 40k?
Also, are Skaven the Orks of the Warhammer universe
>>336398592
Because pic related.
>>336442004
>40K tabletop is dying
>there are people who actually believe this.
Top kek.
>>336442007
Different universes in the same mutilverse.
>>336441630
ah yes, how careless of me
>>336442007
They happen in different universes, but Chaos is a constant and connects to both.
>>336442086
Check the GW stocks
>>336442004
>thq died
>new ceo at games workshop
and
>believing tabletop will ever die
>>336441978
I want a Banshee to scream at my penis
>>336398737
Tau were the second strongest race sure. But eldar were by far the strongest.
>>336442174
you see
>>336442162
>>336441770
From what I understand, the Space Marines consider him the greatest man to ever live, but not an actual God.
Which is odd, considering he has become a God.
>>336398737
>Tau were laughably broken in the first game.
They really weren't. Soulstorm made them okay, but Eldar were always king shit in DoW. Dark Reapers (ranged specialists) could out fight dedicated melee units... in melee. The eldar builder unit could solo squads of guardsmen in melee indefinitely.
>>336441536
>implying any game-discussion platform wouldn't just devolve into a shit-flinging fest
>implying it's literally not human nature at work to get uppity about others disliking things they likes
just wait till we ascend into another life form for /v/ to get better, lad
>>336402138
This. Why are trailers better than the actual games :/
>>336442162
They are higher than they were 5 years ago.
There was a peak about 3 years ago, and they have been declining back to 5 year old state since, which makes sense, as we are right now in an economic downturn, and hobbies like this aren't as attractive when people don't have as much income.
Also, 40k is doing wonderfully. It is still the most popular wargame on the marker by a wide margin. What is tanking, is Age of Sigmar. GW wasted a ton of money on that shit, only for it to fail as it pissed off fantasy fans.
>>336441978
even after all my years in tabletop i forgot that they homegrow all their shit,so seeing the armor calcified and bulbous in some parts really brings in a new way to display the eldar
>>336442184
I like it how they made the banshee cry a little bit more threatening ond woeful
>>336442303
idk, maybe because they want to draw in buyers and therefore make the trailer as attention-grabbing as possible? like hell man, this shit is marketing 101
>>336442053
Woopsie.
FUCKING BLOOD RAVENS LEAVE!!!
I WANT ACTUAL CHAPTERS!
>it will be shit
feels bad man
>>336442528
Yes, when will we get a real Chapter, one that reveres the Spiritual Liege of all Astartes
>>336442238
Remember the time bonesingers started with a teleport?
Aka a tie down for ranged specialist like firewarriors.
>>336442528
Without BR's, all Relic games would be canonical, which would mean a lot of official bullshit.
>>336442528
>This is Captain Leandros of the Ultramarines 3rd company
>>336430287
Chapter Master Smashfucker as Smashfucker Prime.
He even defeated Roboute Guilliman, Angron, and his own Primarch Ferrus Manus.
>>336442437
X-wing is the prominent TT game.
40K isn't even in the top five TT games.
>>336442759
The Dawn of War games being canonical to the greater 40k setting would change nothing of any consequence so it wouldn't matter
If GW licensed it, it may as well be canon
>>336441630
>borrowed
The word you are looking for is GIFTED
>>336442528
You can't have DoW without BRs, m8
>>336442238
Remember when there was no limit on prism tanks?
Remember how prism tanks bugged out your squads once they scattered them around the map, and the ai could not pathfind anymore.
The eldar were always all kinds of bullshit.
NO CHAOS NO BUY
>>336441630
>>336442987
One of the greater, subtle moments in a 40k game. Hope a part of this is a plot point in future games.
>>336429259
IN THIS MOMENT I AM EUPHORIC
>>336441978
>Make Eldar and Banshees armour heavily inspired by Zdzisław Beksiński
>Building and statues copied and pasted off of Zdzisław Beksiński
>New Grim dark art style?
Nope nope... we went for a mobile friendly, pixar, DOTA art style.
JUST FUCK MY FRANCHISE UP, SENPAI
>>336442938
Dawn of War games are not canonical as they miss with the official timeline. They are 10 years ipast 999 41K which is the cut off date of the setting which is the date that the galaxy descends into darkness and carnage. Dawn of WAr games makes no mention that the Light of Golden Throne had faded from Ultima Segmentum making warp travel very difficult or any End Times events.
>>336443204
its photoshopped dow2 assets dumbed down, retard
>>336443016
Uh even better - remember when the seer council was bugged and it stacked the dodge aura of each warlock in it? :)
>>336443204
They did say its less grimdark, but I refuse to believe that is what the game will look like.
>>336442089
>>336442103
>>336442007
Last I remembered, Warhammer is located on a planet present in 40k.
That probably changed with AoS though.
>>336420583
Elite mod made the multiplayer pretty great. It was still very, very difficult though.
I get the feeling that a lot of people just didn't understand the cover systems in DoW2, because they didn't really exist in DoW1
>>336443204
Pretty sure, read hoping, that they just stacked on a few colors ans textures together to have something to give to people. I hope they will make evetytving better looking as development goes.
Please god...
If this is DOW3 pre alpha ...
>>336443551
At least they have nice butts
>>336402067
>>336403105
So Spess Marine ending confirmed canon?
That's the only one where he survives.
>>336442528
The only Space Marine chapters who fight differently are Grey Knights (they're literally Jedi Space Marines and a whole company of them are worth entire Chapters), Blood Angels (they go batshit insane into battle and minmax a lot because if they go full retard they become insane potatoes that have to be put down), Iron Hands (DUDETANKBLITZKRIEGMELTAGUNSLMAO) and Dark Angels (very small Chapter who values air superiority and gottagofast since half of them are traitors and they go full autistic when a fallen 'angel' shows up to the point of abandoning entire missions)
The rest are just defined by having a bigger army than usual (Space Wolves, Black Templars), having more localized and special units (Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Blood Angels), or just mostly sticking to one meme tactic to win (Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, Salamanders, Raven Guard, White Scars)
>>336443256
No way, DoW2 banshee asses are way juicier.
>>336443394
>Last I remembered, Warhammer is located on a planet present in 40k.
No, the cosmology of the Warhammer universe is explored. So what you said isn't true.
>>336397661
Yes, this is good new to me. Nice.
>>336443621
What ifa Deathwatch game
These screenshots make it look like a sterile mobile game. What the fuck Relic?
>>336441427
>>336441536
/tv/ is far worse.
At least you can have something that approaches a discussion on /v/.
>>336406760
>not liking the kleptomania
Fuck you, that's great. Goes perfectly with Blood Ravens being the wierd shady chapter nobody really likes.
Will it have over the top voice acting or will it be boring ass generic shit ala Starcraft
It wont have WITNESSSS YOOOUUUR DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
The pain!!
>>336400226
>unironically wanting to have anything to do with space communists
Berniefag go
>>336443812
Oh yeah, imagine if such a thing existed...
CANT WAKE UP
http://www.pcgamer.com/dawn-of-war-3-inside-relics-biggest-rts-yet/
Do we need a new thread for this?
>>336443812
It was done and it's IOS trash.
>>336444004
I mean an actual game.
>>336444013
At least it's not going to be bullshit like SCII or extreme hand-holding tier like Diablo III (not an RTS, but you catch my drift).
Dont cry guys, we will always have Soulstorm
>>336421796
Humanity is fucked and there is only war. However because you are a human you *should* be rooting for humanity, even though the imperium is basically ultra-facist, does not value life at all and commits warcrimes on a level that would make hitler sad.
Emperor basically replaces jesus, but he stayed hidden throughout most of history.
Humanity spread through the stars.
Then bad stuff happened, warp travel became impossible for 10k years.
Emperor showed up and re-united earth, made a deal with the machine cult of mars and set out on a grand crusade to re-unify all of humanity in the milky way around 30th millenium.
Sometime around 25-30th millenium, warp storms preventing travel stop... because a highly psychic race called the eldar literally fucked and evil god into existence, who's birth-scream ripped a giant hole in space and time light years wide and tore the heart ouf their empire, killing 99.9% of their entire population.
The believed in a manifest human destiny and basically genocided any aliens that they encountered along the way - especially orks (who are ultra violent semi-plant people with an inherent genetic knowledge of the universe, they can build almost anything given a large enough ork population but can't really explain how they know shit).
Orks were made by an ancient race to fight off some mega-bad dudes.
Eldar were also apparently made by this ancient race.
Emperor also made 20 genetic 'children' of himself, that through strange warp magic got lost and landed on various planets - 2 of them are *NEVER* spoken of, ever. The remaining 18 end up split 50/50 in a giant civil war, led by Horus, the one "chosen" by the Emperor.
Elfdar try to manipulate humans because they don't like chaos.
Other alien races are encountered (like necrons).
Imperial Civil war rages, A huge number of the emperors sons die / fall to chaos, Emperor kills and is 'killed' by Horus.
Emperor is interred upon golden throne.
Imperial civil war rages for 10k years
>>336443950
I don't exactly get what's so wrong about that?
I remember in Dark Crusade you often got to have at most 2 units of the most elite ones of your race.
>>336444004
>Asmodai
>Moriar
Okay then. I would have bought this game (at a reduced price) if it was possible to MAKE your own dudes in a certain chapter, not just choose from a pool of pre-built ones.
The studio closed because it sold so badly, it's saying something.
>>336443204
Is that tracer in the bottom left?
>>336444192
What am I looking at?
>>336444214
i forget other in what mentions that the knights will be only elite and you cant build them
>>336416014
First couple of horus heresy books. Night lords trilogy. Shira Calpurnia trilogy. Eisenhorn trilogy.
All very good. There's lots of shit out there though, don't fucking read *anything* by c.s.goto.
>>336444314
Asdruabel's ride.
>>336444192
>that Waaaagh-o-meter
>>336444192
>soulstorm released before DEldar model revamp
A shame, but atleast they unuglified the bitch-slaves
>>336444474
And this part I actually like.
The question is what other elites we are getting for marines and what will the other two factions have.
Units like Termies and Imperial Knights are confirmed for marines.
Hoping for Vanguards and Sternguards.
>>336434496
Newcrons are far more interesting than oldcrons.
They have alliances, hatreds, intrigue and actual politics.
Oldcrons were just a silent spehss zombie army.
>>336437559
>expecting any kind of optimization from current companies
Anon
What the fuck is that horse tail thing the gretchen lifts up?
>>336444617
The problem is that elite units will act like drops after you finish a game (a.k.a COH 2 system). I'm afraid of how is going to be the DLC system
>>336444474
Is this supposed to be bad?
>>336444629
Newcrons are wacky senile space egyptians.
They suck.
>>336443621
What the tits is this nonsense.
>Grey Knights
Are nothing like Jedi. They're the straight up D&D style order of Paladins you mong who are the strong arm of the Ordo Malleus.
>Blood Angels
Assault heavy space vampires that are cursed by the death of their Primarch to go insane with anger and bloodlust. Depending on the successor may or may not eat allies.
>Iron Hands
Iron Hands have nothing to do with AYY LMAO BLITZ. They're technofetishists obsessed with purging all weaknesses, including flesh, and often are filled with cybernetics, making them far more durable but slower than the average space marine. While they do use large amounts of tanks, they use large amounts of ALL vehicles due to their obsession with the purity of the machine. Notable because they field a fuckload of Techmarines and Dreadnoughts.
>Dark Angels
>Small
Wat. Dark Angels are not only above Codex size slightly, but function as the only remaining space marine legion as they are over 10,000 strong. They're specialized in shooting the enemy to pieces and taking down heavy targets like chaos space marines due to having large amounts of plasma. They also have the Deathwing, which are the second best Terminators in the Milky Way.
>Space Wolves
>Just bigger
They're fur fetishists and field gigantic cyber wolf cavalry that can rip apart tanks, all carry frost weapons, and threw the Codex Astartes into the wastebin and have their company structure turned on its head. Their scouts wear power armor and their veterans wear carapace armor.
>Black Templars
Literally THE assault Chapter.
>>336444827
With Sega and the faboulous COH2 behind...
Yes, it will
>>336444865
What do either of those things have to do with the Elite Unit mechanic?
>>336444845
Wait, Dark Angels cross the codex chapter size limit?
I thought only the Black Templars (due to loophole abuse) and the Space Wolves (due to not giving a fuck) did that.
>>336444932
I think anon is worried because CoH 2 apparently jewed players by making them purchase DLC commanders which were stronger than the ones in game. So literally selling power.
>>336444932
I hope not be in the way but it follows the drop system of COH 2 we will have tons P2W DLC's
>>336444826
We'll need to wait for more. It is way too early to judge.
On the other hand heard that the new graphics show their true looks in motion.
>>336444845
Who are the best terminators?
>>336445043
>>336445049
Oh shit, didn't know that.
Never followed COH2 much beyond the delicious putinist butthurt.
>>336445043
Exactly
>>336445043
>stronger
Nigga, please.
Usually they seem stronger because people are not used to fight against them.
They already released 6 Co's for free and half of mine are from drops anyway.
>>336443950
>inspired by a MOBA
kill me
>>336443394
You remember incorrectly. WHF Orcs are not the same as WH4k Orks, for one thing
>>336445090
Ultramarines
>>336445390
>One single pre-game mechanic is inspired by a MOBA
The horror.
>>336445018
Dark Angels don't follow that rule either. And the Inquisition isn't about to tell them to stop at this point
>>336445380
And there is always that one guy who defends shitty business practices.
>>336445483
Is the beginning of the end
>>336445692
Not really.
There's other shit to be angry about. This is pure pedantry
>>336445683
I don't defend the practice, but I need to face reality where constant patching in bigger studios requires additional funds.
>>336445090
Grey Knights. Paladins will anally violate anything you throw them at. Deathwing Knights are the best after those dudes. By the old rules those hardcore motherfuckers could turn Abaddon into a red smear in one round.
>>336430287
And that's why you'll never get your own game.
Power fists and claws are the dumbest things.
>>336445942
Yea,... if only it were possible to create content that does not affect the balance of the game. And in return require less patching because you are not shitting on the balance of your game all the time.
Also this whole boho muh funds was blown out by anet GW 1 team years ago. Where the sale of a goddamn 40 eur box game was enough for them to run mmo servers for a year while developing a full expansion as big as the first box sold.
>>336434153
Just give them on launch krootoxes from Dark Crusade and no one will even touch them.
>>336446141
Your face is the dumbest thing.
>>336446152
Except MMOs are bigger than RTS.
This translates to less income from just selling the game and Relic is not an independent studio to allow constant support for niche genre.
Reality is just shit.
>>336446262
Well yea, that just means whoever is funding relic is a greedy asshole, and in my comparison to GW anet actually had to provide constant support without having to nickle and dime players.
I seriously think that its just a majority of devs are really fucking horrible with sticking to time tables, and reaching their goals. And like to waste funds.
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