Dark Souls 2 was a good game.
>>336361767
If you have to say its a good souls game, its probably shit.
>>336361767
yes it was. nobody here denies it.
>>336362015
If you have to say it's shit, then it's probably good.
>>336362015
>>336362241
If you have to say its a good shit game, its probably souls.
>>336362409
If you have to shit out a good game, it's souls probably.
>>336361767
I completely agree but fuck that boss.
It is a good game.
FUCK. THE. MEMERS.
>>336363097
Wat it eats your equipment? Didn't know that.
>>336361767
This is /v/'s general opinion of dark souls 2
>Good game
>Bad Souls game
But some people on here go too far and say that the game itself is terrible. Its not a bad game; a bad game is Bubsy 3D or Hatred.
>>336362539
I liked him, did him on first try too
>>336363097
Wait what.
Do you get them back?
Does he poop them out?
>>336363216
Just unequips, but good luck putting stuff back on in the middle of a bossfight.
I've heard some folks say in NG+ onward it also strips you of your humanity but havent tested it myself.
>>336363216
me neither, what if you have some good rare shit? is it lost forever?
Fuck you /v/ SotFS is my favorite souls game
>>336361767
no, it was the worst one of the series
kindly end yourself
>>336361767
>gesturing in singleplayer like a retard
Ishygddt
>>336363437
>anime poster
Not surprised
>>336361767
Y'know what? It was. It was alright. It had a lot of fuck ups and odd design choices but it was still decent as a game, and SotFS fixed many mistakes like rare drops from non-respawning enemies n shit. I liked powerstancing and the changes they made to most weapon movesets like making great hammers faster and more viable.
But it's really not.
DeS: 8/10
DS1: 9/10
DS2 : 6/10
DS3 : 8.5/10
BB: Not a Souls game/10
Now leave and take your shitty opinions with you.
>>336363437
i don't see problem with that personally because it had shit-tons of content and dlc was pretty good anyway. quantity over quality but meh.
>>336363596
DeS 9/10
DaS1 9/10
DaS2 7/10
DaS3 dunno yet but I'm kinda burnt out so I dont think I'll play it through
BB dunno yet but I'm kinda burnt out so I dont think I'll play it through
>>336361767
>kill giant dragon
>it's corpse doesn't fall over and crush you
shit game desu
>>336361767
Don't force this meme.
>>336363097
I didn't know Disney had something to do with Dark Souls 2.
>>336363596
anyone who thinks DaS3 is worse than DaS is wearing nostalgia glasses
>>336363535
>Why is he gesturing in a webm that he is going to show to other people? I am too autistic to understand.
>>336363782
The biggest problem is why is it a fucking .gif?
>>336363369
Nope.
>>336363097
>boss can unequip your weapons
it's actually a really neat idea
it's a shame everything's so poorly executed in dark souls 2, it's got a lot of neat ideas
>you will never play a properly made dark souls 2 with several years of care put into it's development
oh well
>>336363725
DS3 would be above DS1 if it had an interconnected world.
>>336363675
then why even respond you dumb nigger?
>>336363882
i have not played ds3 yet. is it really that bad?
>>336363242
Never playes hatred, but as a kid i kinda enjoyes bubsy, even it dod control like ass.
3's problem is that it doesn't really try enough to do new things, it just sticks to the "play it safe" method
also there's no real interconnectivity and the overall experience is very linear. NG+ also doesn't do much new.
ds2 is a bit less linear in the first half of the game and at least ng+ added some new red phantoms
>>336363986
I never said it was bad, I just prefer the world building of DS1, that's all.
>>336361767
You posted the very example of why DS2 isn't as good as 1 or 3
The game was designed with the principle of "How can we be super super hard and fuck the player." As opposed to "How can we design a challenge that's difficult but fair if you approach it correctly."
Dragon boss is bullshit because of that OHKO attack, coupled with the fact that fire hitboxes are wonky as fuck, so you can die despite being no where near fire
>>336363986
no, it's great
these fags are just wearing nostalgia goggles. I finished a play through of dark souls 1 after I finished dark souls 3 and I was left missing a lot of stuff from dark souls 3
>>336363953
wat
>>336364127
Do I have nostalgia if I started the series late last year, DeS is my favourite and I can barely get through DaS3 due to just how stale the series got?
>>336363873
>it's got a lot of neat ideas
Yes it does.
Thing is most people cheese their way trough most of them.There are people who still have no idea that they can run and fight the clerics while the girl is singing with no fear from the lizards.
Or that the undead with the torch can make the guardians angry.
>>336363405
>but good luck putting stuff back on in the middle of a bossfight.
>unironically getting hit by teepoh
lmaoing @ ur life
>>336364082
>ds2 is a bit less linear in the first half of the game and at least ng+ added some new red phantoms
Don't forget the special encounters.I shat myself when the spider boss appeared for the first time in a different location.
>>336364127
I think Dark Souls 3 is a better game because it is simply a sequel done right, it stays true to the formula and improves on everything. On a technical level it is the superior game.
>>336364124
>super hard and fuck the player
try hitting his toes
>>336364504
>On a technical level it is the superior game.
>Dark Souls 3
Said no one ever.
It is an unoptimized console port.
>>336362072
Top kek
>>336363725
Anyone who thinks DaS3 is better than DaS is still not over his honeymoon phase.
>>336364540
Did you ignore everything I just said about getting killed by invisible fire and assume I didn't know how to kill it?
>>336363986
Gameplay wise, area connections are just DS2 all over again. Linear areas leading into a single other linear areas (I would even say it's worse -- the number of locations you can go to at any one time is higher in DS2).
Aesthetically, there's nothing nearly as jarring as the Earthen Peak -> Iron Keep transition.
>>336363882
The world is interconnected, just not as much as DaS1 and if thats your basis for what makes a game good I feel really sorry for you
reminder that DeS had best atmosphere thanks to its superb sound design.
>>336364124
>hates the hardest game
>loves the easiest game
Don't make me say it.
>>336364504
oh but it doesn't improve on much at all apart from the graphics
there's no interconnected world, ng+ is shit, everything's rather linear, covenants are mostly shit, there's no blue eye orb, invading people will get you murdered quite easily
as a sequel, it's okay, but it doesn't attempt to do anything new and in places is even more watered down
>>336364621
>Le honeymoon meme
>>336364627
you don't even have to fight it, and what the fuck do you think is gonna happen when you swing your puny little stick at a literal gigantic bigfuck dragon? you don't expect a single one hit kill attack? it's not even, you just never tried putting on better armor, or the flame quartz ring, or using flash sweat, you probably just died over and over, running back and doing the same thing without figuring out the trick.
fuck you nigger
>>336364127
I played both for the first time in the last week and I agree.
>>336364702
>reminder that DeS had best atmosphere thanks to its superb sound design.
You should try and listen to the ambient sounds in DS2.They are superb.
It's better than linear souls 3, that's for sure
but nioh is better than all souls games. That's a real true hard game.
>>336364873
Yeah I really loved this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifdy8x7QCMk
>>336364872
fuck I mean I agree with them. das1 was better.
>>336364905
remember when dark souls came out and everyone had tons of problems with O&S and everyone thought it was super hard
>>336364905
le true hard game hehe >:) i love dark souls coz its hard >:)
kill yourself
>>336364837
No fuck you nigger, my complaint isn't the OHKO, my complaint is that the Fire hitboxes are wonky as fuck so you often times get killed by fire that didn't even fucking touch you. I can understand dying from the fire, but getting killed by it when I'm no where near it is where I get pissed and think the boss is horribly designed
>>336364696
it's barely interconnected at all
in ds1 there were various routes you could take to progress through various parts of the game
in ds2, it isn't very interconnected, but at least the first half (or so) of the game is rather non-linear
in ds3, it's mostly linear with zero interconnectivity
>>336364757
The world is partially interconnected isn't it? I only got as far as road of sacrifice but aside of being flown down to undead settlement everything seems connected (yea firelink shrine is separate but then again so was undead asylum in DaS1)
>>336365035
well suck my fucking dick then you stupid baby
>>336364757
>No interconnected world
Doesn't make a game bad, you just have a warped view on what makes something good
>NG+ is shit
NG+ is better than any previous souls game and actually rewards you for going
>Everything's rather linear
You get enough freedom throughout the game. Just because you could kill Nito before Bed of Chaos or vice versa doesn't make it better
>Covenants are mostly shit
This is where the nostalgia glasses are coming in. Because if you think Dark souls 1 covenants were good, you truly enjoy shoveling shit in your mouth
>Blue Eye Orb
I'll give you this one, but it wasn't very good in Dark Souls 1 to begin with
>Invading people get murdered
I'll give you this one as well
>>336365074
>Zero interconnectivity
>Dark souls 2 has more interconnectivity
Did we play the same game or are you just retarded?
>>336365140
Choke on my cock you mongoloid, Dark Souls 2 is still good, but don't defend an obviously shit boss
I never played DS2 or DS1. I have recently however played through DS1: PtD and DS2: SotFS. Both are great games. I enjoyed them very much.
I felt that DS1 had better control over movement and better music. I felt it also had a more coherent story.
DS2 had much better weapon variety. Lots more bosses, looked prettier and had better animations. It also had much better online with co-op and PvP.
I'm just about to start NG+ in DS1 and once I've beaten that, I will start NG+ in DS2.
I don't know what all the hate is for in DS2. It does fall behind DS1 in some aspects but is clearly better in others.
They're both tight games and I'm glad I waited for the reduced price versions bundled with the DLC. It felt a lot more worth the money.
I'll do the same for DS3 and wait for a DLC bundled edition with some game fixes.
>>336363097
>>336364830
>le nostalgia goggles meem
Honestly anon, which meme is more overused?
>>336365074
Again, Dark Souls 1 was interconnected for the first half of the game, and that didn't make it better. I liked the interconnectivity of it all but it wasn't the reason dark souls 1 was so nuanced
Dark Souls 1 + DLC > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 vanilla = Demon Souls > Dark Souls 2
>>336365416
>trying to le counter meme me
git gud kiddo
>>336365425
The world was my favourite aspect of both DaS1 and DeS actually. They were both differently designed true but exploring that shit was 10/10
I admit mechanically they might be flawed and following titles might have improved on it but the level design is nowhere near it. Fuck pvp and all that noise too
>>336365196
>Doesn't make a game bad, you just have a warped view on what makes something good
That's not what I'm getting at. DS1 did it, but it's such a step-down for DS2 and 3 to not do it.
>NG+ is better than any previous souls game and actually rewards you for going
DS2's NG+ gave you new additional boss souls that gave you items/spells, you also had red more phantoms appearing in areas and a few other things, DS3 just has extra rings (which DS2 had too)
>You get enough freedom throughout the game. Just because you could kill Nito before Bed of Chaos or vice versa doesn't make it better
it's more linear than 1, it's a step-down
DS1 covenants were shit, yes, but I was referring to 2 where there was at least an attempt to make things vaguely balanced and interesting, the rat guys were neat, there was only the blue sentinels and not another pointless covenant for no reason, and the bell guys were an okay idea
while 3 does have covenants that defend areas, there's not really an overlying gimmick/dynamic to them
>>336365410
If that guy invaded me, I wouldn't even be mad. That's hilarious.
>>336361767
>Taunting at fucking NPCs
Serves you fags right.
>>336365224
you can get to lost bastille via forest of the fallen giants, or go through heide's and no-man's.
I think that's what he was getting at, as DS3 doesn't really have anything like that.
>>336361767
it was a bad game saved by the fact that it was part of an overall greater series.
>>336365224
he didn't say that you fucktard, he said it's non-linear
>>336365575
I enjoyed exploring the Dark Souls 3 world just as much as 1. The only difference was it wasn't connected. Finding all the hidden items and rooms in 3 was just as rewarding as 1
>>336365782
I envy you tbqh, for me the joy of exploring just went away and it was the only reason I really liked the series
Can I ask what the origin of this "DS2 was good" meme is? Did some hot shot e-celeb release a video or something?
>>336365782
yes
individual areas are quite nicely done and interconnected, but the overall structure of the world is rather linear.
instead you have the magical "ashen one help me" teleportation when you kill both yhorm and aldrich
>>336365631
This
>>336365910
Whenever a new game in a series comes out everyone starts liking the old game because new things are shit.
Star Wars prequels are good btw
1>2>3 in terms of enjoyment, I just wasn't feeling it with 3, I couldn't even bother finishing it, maybe I'm just tired of Dark Souls
>>336365631
There was a webm of a guy straight up Goku. He would do a pose and shoot a soul spear like a Kamehameha and fly around the area and turn gold
>>336365410
Gonna need source on this video, halarious
Did I fuck something up or where did my blue covenant thing go?
Got it from the lady with the banner in the starting area but now I'm crazy bird country and found that it's gone.
>>336361767
>attempt to go back to DaS2 after finishing 3
>It's a downgrade in every way
>go start another character in an actually good from game
What went so wrong with DaS3? It's a good game but I can't bring myself to more than one playthrough.
>>336361767
Is this a thread about bike tires?
It's a horrible Souls game.
But still an exceptional good game.
>>336365778
He literally said Dark souls 3 has zero interconnectivity while saying dark souls 2 "isn't very inteconnected" you dumb faggot
I think DS2 was a lot more colourful and environmentally varied than 3. Granted not much of the areas made any sense in 2, but yeah.
>>336366124
you invested too much money in a PS4 to not play the only good game it has
>>336366193
see >>336365739 you silly boy
>>336366036
1>3>shit>piss>2
the thing is i still playing das1 mostly pvp. 3 have a lot nice things, but i hated das2 pvp and it's all over again.
>>336365937
>He doesn't know you can access that area from the start of the game
>mfw pulling that lever in Aldia's keep and hearing that noise
I knew exactly how hard i just fucked up without even seeing it happen
>>336366275
>imploding
People who are too poor to only own one or the other are pathetic
>>336361767
>vittoria
nigga what the fuck does that even mean
>>336366294
y-yeah well
you're a silly boy and i'm bad at reading sorry don't bully me i feel bad now goodbye
>>336366331
oh I do, I almost liked that you could do that
but then they ruined it by having the archive door locked until you kill the 3 other lords of cinder
and you still get magically teleported to the dancer room after killing aldrich/yhorm even if you've already killed the dancer
>>336366456
Almost like those dumb gay yellow gates that were around the place in dark 1 if you tried to progress to earlier amirite?
>>336363986
It's not bad. It's a step up from DaS2, but it still suffers from being able to warp to bonfires from the start, so there was no reason for the designers to take the DaS approach of letting you open shortcuts back to firelink shrine or areas having "backdoors" that lead to other areas.
There are lots of "shortcuts" that just serve as shortcuts to a boss and not for general mobility.
NIOH - THE REAL DARK SOULS STARTS HERE
>>336364124
>How can we design a challenge that's difficult but fair
They always sucked at it.
>>336361767
It was a great game. It was a good souls game. It was better than Demon Souls and probably more re-playable than DS1 because the PVP was funner and there were more options. I think I like DS3 better though.
>>336361767
OP non solo è frocio come al solito, ma è anche italiano.
Va a morire sotto l'ascella di Grillo.
>>336361767
>Dark Souls 2 was a good game.
It still is.
I play it to this day.
>>336364570
The DS1 PC port was much worse. That's not even what he meant though
DaS > BB > DaS3 > DaS2 > DeS
Fuck all you memers. DaS2 is great.
DS2 tried too hard to look hard. Even though it was easier than DS1.
>one of the first covenants simply makes the game harder for you and doesn't even tell you that
>you will DIE and DIE and DIE all over again hehehehe
>shit like you losing health everytime you die
DS1 is overall a fine package that only gets a little weak at certain parts.
>>336366045
Anyone got this?
When will this DS3 doesn't have an interconnected world meme going to end? The only part of the world that isnt physically connected to the rest is Lothric proper. You can walk from the undead settlement, to the profaned capital, to the cathedral of the deep, to anor londo, and back again as much as you want. Really the only place you gotta take a gargoyle ride is from Lothric down to the undead settlement and gee isnt there EXACTLY the same distinction in DS1 from sen's to Anor Londo? Hell in DS3 you can even do things way outta order like killing Oceiors and Dragonslayer Armour before you even go down to the undead settlement. You can't do shit like that in DS1 without the fucking master key as a choice.
The sequence breaking potential in DS3 is vastly superior to DS1 from the very first playthrough. I'm convinced anyone who tries to honestly say DS1 is more interconnected than DS3 has never played the latter.
>>336361767
It's a fine game, but you're memeing hard if you act like it isn't far and away the worst Souls game
It had some really cool ideas like powerstancing, soul vessels, ascetics and NG+ phantoms. But the difference in quality is pretty blatant when you look at the level design and the boss fights.
Enemies are a bit too aggressive in ds3. They can be easy to clean up if you bait out the right attack, but all too often they will throw out crazy spam combos that are extremely difficult to dodge and will chew up your health.
>>336361767
Being the worst Souls game still makes it better than more than half of all other games in the past decade, so I'd agree.
>>336367250
Is that a Playstation game?
My biggest problem with DS2 is the low quality of the enviroments.
Even shit areas like Lost Izalith didn't look as bad as most of DS2. It feels like they came up with the paths first and after that tried to form the surroundings around them.
>>336367204
>>one of the first covenants simply makes the game harder for you and doesn't even tell you that
Except for the part where it tells you that three times.
>>336367250
urhg that screen
everytime i think i want to play that game i get flashbacks like this screenshot
>>336367238
word
Even though the areas were mostly isolated, they still took the time to make sure that everything fit and made sense spatially. Its so cool that Farron Keep eventually takes you back to the other half of the bridge in Undead Settlement.
>>336367283
>crazy spam combos that are extremely difficult
69% rolls in DS3 take almost no stamina and have more i-frames than ninjaflips
You're just bad
>>336367467
>>336367238
sure individual areas are connected to one another, but you can't go via any alternate routes to get to places like in ds1
>>336367238
in das from the start you been able to walk:
undead burg
undead parish through darkroot basin
tomb of giants through catacombs
new londo
ash lake and upper blightown through blightown
back to asylum
>>336367238
I think most people are only looking at first boss possibilities, and it is more limited in that sense, but beyond that there is plenty of freedom.
>>336361767
Better than 3.
>>336367238
>sequence breaking potential
I'm sorry, what?
>kill emma
>kill dancer
>kill possessed armor
>kill oceiros
>kill the champ
wow such sequence breaking
>>336367614
Well you're probably right, but I'm doing a sl1 playthrough so the problem is more visible. The mobs I have the biggest problem with are pontiff knights. They occasionally do a 5 or 6 hit combo as they run forward, which usually ends in me dead.
>>336367763
out of a "series" of 5 games, you really only had that type level design in the first half of 1 of them
Its not fair to lump DS3 in with DS2 when the former spent so much more effort on designing a persistent world. In most cases you can literally see every single stage from every other stage, reflecting the actual traveling distance between them
Only DS1 and Bloodborne truly have interconnected worlds.
>>336367993
watch your positioning, learn from speedrunners
>>336367238
>>336367786
People are getting confused. There's a difference between "interconnected", which is the number of entrances and exits to each area, and "non-linearity", the number of areas you can visit at any given time. Demon Souls had great non-linearity but no interconnections. Dark Souls 3 has some non-linearity but little (if any) interconnections.
Only memers think Dark Souls II is bad
They all got their opinions from the internet
>>336367964
arbitrarily locking players out of the Grand Archives is so lame
k
>>336367283
They're a fine amount of aggressive. The problem is that miya forgot this wasn't BB and accidentally poise locked at zero. This screws over an entire class of weapon user because a dagger can poise through and stunlock your FUGS.
>g-git gud, use hyperamor
I do, and I'm on NG+2 so far with greataxes, hammers and UGS, but I can't stress how much fucking easier the game is with a straightsword or the absolutely cancerous estoc and that's still not addressed. It kills build variety; magic sucks, greatswords suck, better go quality like fucking everyone else.
>>336368296
oh yeah it is
you can kill the 4 kings fairly early on though, can't you?
>>336363596
well thats your opinion. Since we are sharing this /here is mine.
DeS:8/10
DS1:7.8/10
DS2:8/10
DS3:7/10
BB:7.8/10
Now leave and take your shitty opinions with you.
>>336368279
The things with DAS2 is the bulk of its areas and bosses are awful.
And the most glaring being the final two where you fight O&S wannabes then the queen.
I still had fun but DAS2 will always be the black sheep of the series.
>>336368338
did you spam magic in DaS just because it was broken?
Do what you enjoy and don't stress over what makes the game easier or harder.
>>336367964
>What is killing Wolnir and abyss watchers before seeing the cathedral
>What is killing Yhorm before the pontiff and Aldrich
Fuck off man. DS1 locked you out of four places right from the get-go. DS3 only locks you oout of two (Grand Archives, and Boreall Valley).
>>336361767
IT is a good game, it's still the worst souls game
>>336364124
git gud.
>>336368607
what's your marking rubric?
>>336367173
>Demon's below DaS2
>ever
>>336363596
DeS: 8/10
DS1: 9/10
DS2 : 5/10
DS3 : 8/10
BB: 9/10
Fixed it for you.
>we'll never have DaS 1 world design ever again
>>336368607
>every game is either a 7 or 8
>calling others opinions shit
Wow, you're so spineless.
And how is DS3 below DES?
>>336368672
Are you me? That's exactly how I did it, I didn't know that was breaking sequence
>>336368643
No, but that's not the point. I don't like ignoring poor balance issues.
>>336368672
are you memeing?
it locks you out of the Undead Settlement until you kill Vordt
it locks you out Carthus until you kill the Abyss Watchers
it locks your out of Irithyll until you kill Wolnir and Deacons of the Deep
it locks your out of Anor Londo until you kill Pontiff Sully
it locks you out of Grand Archives until you kill the SOCs
compare it to DaS where you can get to Undead Settlement, Undead Parish, New Londo, Catacombs, Blighttown, Darkroot, Valley of Drakes or return to the Asylum without killing a single boss
>>336361767
I like how regardless of opinion, no one mentions how surprising or bullshit OPs gif is. I find it funny that Souls has gotten such a reputation, as to where a clip like that doesn't even surprise the community, including me. Carry on dudes :^)
>>336368643
There's a difference between choosing not to use something powerful and not being able to use something because it sucks total dick.
>>336369340
Why is progression a bad thing though?
I mean yeah you could skip intended sequence in DAS by a lot but unless you're doing some tedious special run its not going to be fun chipping away at things 2-3x your stats.
>>336366396
this
that said, I'd rather be poor than have such shit taste that I'd prefer BB over DaS3
>>336369540
fuck off, faggot
>>336369597
lol
>>336369121
No, I am fucking realistic. Im not a souls fanboi who think the game is a godsend, generally im so tired of /v/'s either it is 9-10 or shit game, like there is no inbetween. The souls games are all very much alike. I think that DS3's almost linearity and how easy it was felt cheapened compared to DeS. Furthermore the story part and NPC's were more interesting in DeS, and the lore was better explained. Then all the references to DS1 felt forced at times. Although DLC have not yet come for DS3 and they tend to make the game better.
>>336369631
>I'd rather be poor than enjoy the better game
Your call I guess
>>336369187
The correct order is Vordt > Tree > Sages > Deacons > Abyss Watchers > >>Wolnir > Pontiff> Aldritch > Yhorm > Dancer > etc
>
>>336369597
>tfw das3 average player will know knew a feel when you oneshot gargoyles with you rtsr and pyro not even trying hard
>>336370312
i fucked up big times
>>336370230
>BB
>better than DaS3
>>336368770
It's true though
I agree but then again the souls games are the only games I genuinely enjoy these days
>>336370430
It is. I'd rather play a fresh IP with fun weapons rather than having 20 longswords, cohesive and interesting lore, better worldbuilding and balance. Get fucked.
>spend all last night in fight club chalice
>It's more active than pontiff
>>336370952
>a fresh IP
>Demon Souls reskin #3
>fresh
>with fun weapons
too bad they're all outclassed by the Saw Cleaver
>cohesive and interesting lore, better worldbuilding and balance.
oh lord, you're serious
>>336367238
>The sequence breaking potential in DS3 is vastly superior to DS1
you can't be be serious
>>336362015
>>336362241
>>336362409
>>336362459
Hi, reddit.
>>336371193
>more like Demon's, souls than any Souls game
>bad thing
Trash opinion
>they're outclassed by the saw cleaver
No, they're not. Every weapon is viable and good outside of rifle spear.
>are you serious
Absolutley.
>>336370952
I love BB but wtf are you talking about, PvP and online was trash on BB.
>>336368076
This 100 times. That style of play that everyone speaks about like it's supposed to be the souls spirit was present in only 1 game out of 5. It's not the norm of the saga, it never was. Demon souls wasn't like that at all and it was the first of the series.
What i think that nobody is noticing is that the first half of dark souls 1 is a metroidvania in third persona without map, and that blew everyone mind, but for some reason or another, FROM thinks it was just a secondary, not very important aspect of the game.
>>336371462
when did I ever say that Demons or rehashes are a bad thing?
>No, they're not.
they're outclassed in damage while not being as fast (which allows you to get the fuck out of the way of boss retaliation)
plus you don't have to hold onto upgrading gear until you get other weapons
you really think anyone who played more than 3 souls games (BB being in this pool of course) is going to take you seriously?
>>336371482
It really wasn't. There are three seperate PvP chalices that I can think of off the top of my head and my connectivity in them is as flawless as any game. Covenants are grind traps that do absolutely nothing to the game and this is highlighted in DaS3. You don't need them to PvP.
>>336367238
Eh, I wouldn't say vastly superior, but indeed, it's very tiresome, I can't remember the number of times I've been on a cliff or something and saw either where I was headed or where I had been.
>>336368248
>which is the number of entrances and exits to each area
No.
Should I take the eyes back from the firekeeper or what?
>>336371936
na
it just lets you have an option of an extra ending once you've killed the final boss
>>336363097
If you get hit by the Covetous Demon's grab attack you deserve to lose your items.
>>336371861
Yes. You can't be interconnected without that.
>>336371703
>outclassed in damage
No. My saw spear does not have as high an AR as my whirligig. Bigger, slower weapons do more damage. It's actual balance, who'd have thunk?
If you are now going to tell me that weapons like kirk, age and pizza cutter are not viable because they're slower, I'm gonna have to tell you to gitgud. They don't have near the problems STR weps face in DaS3.
>you don't have to hold on to upgrading gear
What are you even talking about?
It doesn't matter if anonykins online disagrees. I'm right. DaS3 needs dlc and balance patches to bring it to BB's level
>>336371725
It was, it was awful, arena fighting, end of PvP, that's it, one phrase.
Yeah, you do need covenants, good ones, DaS3 doesn't really have any except Grapists, things like Gravelords and Ratbros are really great, arena horseshit 1v1 me bro should be relegated to fucking Overwatch.
>>336369597
non-linearity just makes runs a bit more interesting
its kind of lame when you want to do a certain kind of run, but the weapon you want to use is locked out of the game until one of the last stages.
>>336372105
No.
>>336363725
>linear world
>rolling is easier takes no stamina
>PVP in ds3 is short swords, spam aoe boss weapons, only use r1 90% of the time
>took 3 hrs to beat 2nd run solo beat it at level 56
> easier bosses then ds2 during early game
>too many iframes, no option to do poise instead
>heavy armor is pointless when haves set gives me the same defense and resistance a light armor plus ring of steel protection aside from curse
>less then a hour speedruns(kinda mixed feelings here)
>first playthrough I died about 30 times in 23 hours
Ds 1
>>336372181
>single hits are bigger numbers
what's the point when I can hit with the saw cleaver twice instead?
>What are you even talking about?
did you know you can't upgrade all your weapons to max even if you farm echoes because there's limited resources? how many weapons can you even get to +10 in a single playthrough, 1 without the DLC, 3 with the DLC? (assuming you find every +10 upgrade thingie)
>>336370297
Dancer -> upgrade your weapon to +9 -> the rest of the game
>>336364124
Yeah, honestly I don't understand why DaS2 fans can't just accept they like bullshit, they want to die cheaply, they don't have an understanding of the mechanics nor do they want one, it just has to be universally hard, unforgiving, and unrelenting.
Like good for you, the rest of us hate that shit, but stop telling me they're the same or DaS2 is better, hardness =/= quality dicknip.
>>336372302
>having internal connections between parts or elements.
Notice the plural. Clearly, the more connections there are, the more interconnected it is. Obviously, even the original Super Mario Bros has connections, but no one would call it interconnected in the same vein as Metroid or the first half of Dark Souls 1.
>>336372349
That's. That's the point you fucking retard. You build a STR char? Prolly wanna use a STR weapon. Quality? Prolly want Ludwigs or Axe.
>you can do two hits with two swings and have the same damage as one hit as a STR char
I know the concept of balance is off to you since playing DaS but come on.
And any of them you want, you retard. There's at least 4 bloodrocks in set chalice locations, and you can farm them indefinitely from D5 Ebriatas.
>>336372668
point being that the heavy weapons are a joke if you want to play BB, the DaS games are easier in general so you can afford to take it up the ass because you insist on using a shitty slow weapon, but BB doesn't fuck around, you better not rely on staggers against most bosses or you'll be punished for it
and for the record, I wish heavy weapons weren't a joke
>>336372616
Yes, as in not distinct, not as in "multiple entries to multiple areas"
>>336372914
>farm D5 Ebrietas
Right after I cut my dick off.
>>336372914
>heavy weapons weren't a joke
Opinions completely disregarded, I now know you never played the game. There isn't a single enemy that doesn't get thrown back by hunter axe R2, it even works on bosses, and stunlocking is easier than ever. It's not souls, you're not supposed to hang back and poke. You are supposed to play agressively.
>>336372917
Are you daft? Every entrance/exit pair represents a connection. The definition of interconnected is "has lots of connections", ergo to be interconnected some areas must have multiple entrances and exits.
To claim otherwise is to say that all games are interconnected no matter how linear they are, which is clearly false.
>>336363596
>>336373101
>every time ever I used trick axe R2 I staggered
uh huh, of course
>>336361767
I love this game
>>336373031
I don't understand, Isz is by far and away the easiest chalice to speedrun. Average time is 4 to 6 minutes.
>>336373161
>show someone the definition
>they keep saying the opposite
Bruh.
>>336373210
Yes. You do. Spin to win. Find what doesn't stagger. I'll wait.
>>336373169
Switch Lords and DaS2
>>336373360
oh how I wish I still had my PS4 just to make a webm of it
>>336363873
Dark Souls 2 really did have some good ideas.
Powerstancing was kickass, it had the best NG+, best covenants. Just because it was the worst doesn't mean it had to be completely ignored by From in DaS3. They should have at the very least took NG+ from DaS2.
>>336361767
Michele Poggi please fuck off
>>336373517
>oh I wish I could play this game I'm giving all these incorrect opinions about
Spotted you.
>>336373636
>selling a PS4 after being done with BB invalidates one's opinions
spotted the sonyfag
>>336373746
When you kept spewing incorrect shit, it made it obvious you hadn't played. I don't give a shit how you were so poor you had to sell your PS4 to scrape by. Try to actually play the games you're talking about
>>336372535
Honestly I can look past the flaws of the game, but it's that ONE boss that sticks out the most as the straw that broke the camels back. OHKO? Sure why not, but fix your hitboxes with fire first before saying I died when I was no where even close to any fire
>>336373608
Should have taken the slow estus, ascetics, and the creative area design too. DS2 wasn't perfect, but DS3 brought absolutely nothing new to the table except the joke that is weapon arts.
>>336373989
>ascetics
Fuck you and your no respawn horseshit.
>>336374204
Bitch, I said nothing about that and they even have a covenant for you if you want to prevent despawning. You can have ascetics without despawning to let people fight bosses again, make the game more challenging, or allow them to access NG+ content without going full NG+ (but DS3 doesn't even have NG+ content).
>>336373919
>spewing incorrect shit
Slow weapons are shit, even if you cry at night.
>but they're good against regular enemies
Are a joke and if you need slow weapons against them, so are you
In fact, link me a video of someone stunlocking Ludwig to death, should be easy for you right?
>>336374204
>no respawn horseshit
Which is easily fixed by joining the champions covenant.
>>336374204
its more for the sake of respawning bosses so you can be invaded again
>>336374681
Are you still trying when you've made it obvious you haven't played?
>>336373379
Nah, Lords sucked. Every problem Dark Souls 2 has Lords has tenfold, including shit like hitboxes and ganks out the ass. At least Dark Souls 2 has more content and viable build varieties, without some typical edgelord main character.
>>336374545
They have a bullshit covenant that makes the game fucking harder, that shit was terrible.
>>336374695
See above, fuck that shit to the ends of the Earth.
>>336375189
It was passable, but at least everything doesn't look like plastic in Lords, and it's not unrelentingly difficult in an unrewarding way, I'd take shitty and easy over shitty and hard.
>>336374681
https://youtu.be/G2CK0K4yfHs
https://youtu.be/ZhNeJ5OLbtM
Here's a freebie, just for you, of a boss that's not a giant beast, and not even using much of the tricked R2.
https://youtu.be/cKrRfbiwlx0
>>336375084
Why dont you just provide proof? That would shut me up instantly
Oh, wait, you cant, because there is none
>>336363097
>Webm of player teleporting into his mouth
Dark Souls 2 in a nutshell
>>336375358git gud
>>336375863
Are you blind?
>>336375845
>slow weapons are shit!
I think you're shit. Here's another.
https://youtu.be/iGodHDIVJh4
>>336375982
Are you? It's even 60fps, look at the frames.
>>336375636
There you go, actual proof. I know what weapon I'll use on my second run already (when the PS4K is out).
>>336376150
>Character is right in front of mouth.
>Is bitten.
Yes, you're blind. There are terrible grab hitboxes in DS 2 (and some in DS3) but how pathetic are you to take even the slightest opportunity to shit all over a good game?
>>336376047
Wow Lords of the Fallen looks great!
>>336361767
Not intermediately facing the door after the boss. To check for agross. NEWB mistake. git gud.
>>336375531
It looks better I'll give it that but I had a lot less fun with it.
>it's not unrelentingly difficult in an unrewarding way
Did you fight the mages? They do spells that cause your attacks to do damage to yourself, while simultaneously draining your health. They also explode after they die where 9/10 you won't be able to move quick enough to avoid the explosion. Big, hard hitting, normally slow moving enemies will sometimes speed up their attack animation to impossibly fast levels to land their attacks on you. Then there's the big fat guys with their bullshit tracking even as they're healing.
Those enemies right there are more bullshit than anything DS2 throws at you. It doesn't help that your attacks automatically gravitate towards the nearest enemy even if you're locked onto a different enemy. Maybe I'm playing it wrong or something, I beat the game but I found it a lot more difficult than DS2.
so was DAO and look how that ended up
IMO dak souls 2 has the best visual style of all the series, and the armor design is impeccable
>dark souls 1 visuals are deced
>dark souls 2 visuals are an absolute upgrade, coupled with much prettier effect sprites and colorful environments
>bloodborne visuals are clay
>dark souls 3 visuals are clay
why clay? WHY?
seriously, its like they splitted what would make a perfect souls game in 3 different entries and a spinoff
perfect souls game is dark souls 1 level design and mechanics, dark souls 2 visuals and everything about graphics and weapons, dark souls 3 combat and bloodborne's amazing setting
>>336376351
Have fun. The axe has literally the most perfect moveset of any spear/halberd in the series.
>>336375863
He was hit by the grab, you waste of breath.
>>336376950
2/10
It's the best Souls game. FACT.
>>336376667
Having beaten it I know what you're referring to, but pulling back there's no way I would be able to tell if you were referring to DaS2 or Lords as an outsider because it's identical bullshit, bullshit spells, exploding enemies, hard hitting enemies that go crazy fast and insane tracking.
Did B-Team make Lords of the Fallen? Has anyone checked the credits?
>>336376950
>dark souls 2
>everything looks like cheap plastic
>boxy, cartoonishly colored environments
Can we call it Darkablo? Diablouls?
>>336376047
PC really did ruin DaS2. We wouldn't have even 1/4th of the webms if it was PS3/360 only.
>>336377309
Now post Bloodbornes review :^).
>>336377309
>Taking professional gaming reviews seriously
>>336377309
>the shiteating press like the worst game in a series
Oh no how can this be what whoaaa
>>336372914
you didn't play BB. Anyone with Plat trophy will tell you that Heavy Weapons, as in fucking 50% of all the weapons are perfectly viable. I can kill Orphan with Hammer, Ludwigs, Pizza, Boom Hammer. Fuck I can kill anything with any weapon I want because they are actually very fairly balanced in PVE. BB is a masterpiece and you are just a shitter without a ps4. DS3 is extremely good although the balance is pure shit, as I'm currently using Dark Sword and would not trade it for anything.
>>336378362
I used Ludwig through everything, including Chalice Rape Dog, but honestly it's not a balance issue, the Dark Sword is a great sword in DaS, you just get it earlier in DaS3, making it the new excellent starter weapon.
I traded up to UGS, insane damage, staggering through hyperarmor poise, shit's great.
>>336366918
>politica fuori dal nulla
torna su /ita/ e restaci, grazie
>>336369084
>we still don't have an image like this for DaS3
>>336378604
I'm actively TRYING to not use the Dark Sword, because it's retarded good. I picked up Hollow Slayer, Astora greatsword, Bastard Sword, Battle Axe. All of them are worthless, the Dark Sword does twice as much damage as them for the same amount and stamina. That is not balanced, no matter how you slice it.
