FUCK THIS GODDAMN GAME AND THE FUCKING 3v1 GANK SQUADS
EVERY FUCKING INVADE. THREE MOTHER FUCKERS AND THEY USE A FUCKING SEED
WHO THE FUCK DESIGNED THIS SHIT
>>336310340
Stop invading and put down a red sign.
i did
sorry
>>336310639
>fight club fag
Don't you have a subreddit you should be posting in or something?
>complaining about the seed
Maybe you shouldn't run away like a little bitch then
I'm usually playing with a couple friends. If we get invaded we usually let it be 1v1, granted its usually not against the host first.
Thats the best we're gonna give ya OP sorry.
>seed icon
>zero monsters killed anywhere
>gank squad waiting
just jump off a cliff, you lose nothing unless you're an idiot invading with lots of souls
now invading as a purple is real shit, you're giving away shackles and they don't drop for shit in the catacombs
>>336310854
The only advantage the invader has is gone so it's not it completely unfair 3v1 vs. estus chuggers. There's literally no way to beat them unlesss they're all fucking retards
>>336310847
Damn did I post on 4chan again? Sorry guys, I'll go back to tumbleddit land
>>336310340
Roll roll attack
Also pasta thread
>>336311037
>waaaaaahh it's unfair
>but when it was unfair in my favor that was ok
>>336310847
You said it, pal. That guy is way too lame to be posting in a cool place like 4chan.
>>336311179
There's nothing to the advantage to the invader. They already have lower health and half estus.
>>336311037
So don't invade stupid.
>>336310340
Are you actually encountering gank squads, or are you talking about encountering someone who summoned some help for a boss and you invaded?
People go human/embered/whatever because they want to summon help.
>>336310340
>not playing offline
You fell for the biggest meme of all
invade in places where people are unlikely to put down white signs like irithryll dungeon
>>336310639
good joke
>>336310340
>1on1
>invader runs to mobs and try to gangbang me
>territorial convenants like farron and aldrich faitfhuls will continue to call backups
Yea, why shouldn't I have a gank squad ready for you scums again?
>>336310340
>hide in the Farron swamp with an obscuring ring
>NG+1 with the seed active
>invaders getting murdered by crabs
>dont unhallow if you dont wanna get invaded
DONT INVADE IF YOU DONT WANNA DO 3v1 YOU FAGS
WHY ARE DARKWRAITHS SUCH BABIES IN DS3
>>336310340
You're invading someone else's game, you play by their own rules.
Is this seriously how everyone plays the fucking game..? With three goddamn phantoms spamming Estocs and Dark Swords.
Christ..
>>336310340
git gud
>>336311538
>Use white branch in Farron Keep
>Watch invaders run around trying to figure out where I am
>>336311574
this. a million times this
>>336310340
>WAA ME RUINING OTHER PEOPLE'S GAMES ISN'T EASY ENOUGH FOR ME
>>336311717
This is what upsets me the most, really.
I actually enjoy fighting ganksquads, most of the time when I invade a dude playing by himself I clap, drop him one or two embers, and just black crystal away once he picks it up. Most of the people playing PvE are new and not really used to the franchise so it's unfair to 1v1 them.
But sometimes I meet people with 2-3 other phantoms, just basically steam-rolling the level - can someone explain to me what's the point? Can you even say you're playing the game at this point?
I know some people enjoy playing DaS as a co-op, but come on, there's gotta be some self-respect involved.
>see people complaining about invasions being gankfests
>Finally get the game and decide I won't summon if I get invaded
>get nothing but invaders who wait for me to start attacking enemies or flee into large groups of enemies when they're losing to take a sippy and generally be annoying as possible
I said fuck it and started using seeds and summons. If you want to be an annoying shit I'll do the same.
>>336310340
Can we instead talk about how stupid Darkmoon Covenant is?
Literally the same as Blue Sentinels except they don't like Aldrich Faithful.
Whats the fucking point.
>>336311574
This. Gankers have always existed, even since DeS. I guess invaders don't really know how to play dirty.
They should add a permission to invade system:
>Invader uses Red Eye Orb
>A notification is sent to the player that is being invaded
>"Dark spirit _____ wants to invade you! Do you give them permission?"
>If you do, the player is given a few minutes to invite other white or yellow phantoms to help out
I think that would be fair.
>people take a game seriously where the "meta" is 3v1 ganksquads just spamming R1
>>336312147
The permission to invade system is already there, it's called embering.
sometimes i just want to go into a game a completely destroy that one guy who is alone and trying to beat the area with ember on. fuck that guy he deserves to die
Ganksquads are usually shit. Just parry the host. I win about 80% of my ganksquad encounters.
>>336311717
Not really, I've been part of "ganksquads" and you want to know what we are doing when we get invaded? Taking the host to the boss so they can progress and I can get a sunlight medal and yeah if you want to invade and get in our way you're gonna get steamrolled
Jolly cooperation and all that
Use it.
>>336312237
Nope! I haven't given direct permission to enter my game!
>in the swamp
>black phantom invades
>swampy covenant phantom invades
>3 way clusterfuck
>back up a bit they duel
>run in to help swampbro who missed every chance to double team me to duel with black phantom
>swing
>hit both
>both die
i am sorry samp-bro
>>336310340
DaS 1
>Literally no disadvantages for the invader
>"HAHA GIT GUD FAGS DON'T GO HUMAN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET REKT"
DaS2
>Can invade anyone anytime, *sometimes* has to deal with mobs
>"HAHA GIT GUD FAGS DON'T WANT TO GET INVADED DON'T GO ONLINE FROM WHERE'S MY ORB GIVE ME MY ORB ALREADY"
DaS3
>Disadvantages for the invader
>"FUCK YOU FROM WHY IS THIS GAME SO UNFAIR FIX IT NOW I WANT TO KILL THESE FAGLORDS THEY NEED TO GIT GUD"
>>336312243
I invade because I want to be a mini-boss.
Not to murder or ruin someone's game, but to give them a scary but winnable experience.
>>336312117
That's the spirit. They're here to kill you by any means so you should defend yourself by any means. Fuck honor purists. If an invader wants to have an honorable fight with me I'll fight them fair and square no bullshit. But the minute they chug, I chug. The minute they hide behind enemies I pop a seed. Kill or be killed.
>>336310340
git gud lol xD
hahaha git gud :)
>>336312292
I don't gank with hosts, I just try to help them with cooperation. I mean I'll protect hosts on the way to the boss from invaders, but I don't participate in ganks. I just let the host die or I kill myself if they want to squad it up for ganks.
>>336310340
>>336310847
What's with the hate against public fight clubs? It's basically the only way to PvP now and it's completely community driven. Is there some sort of cancerous shit I'm missing here?
I get summoned, wait one or two matches and then fight my opponent. Or if I host one I just walk around summoning my ass off and 99% of the time people know what's going on and abide by the 'rules'.
>WAAAAAAAH THE GAME IS UNFAAAAAIIIRRR
I'm enjoying every one of you delicious tears
>summon two other phantoms R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll estus estus R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 roll roll roll roll roll estus roll R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll estus estus R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 roll roll roll roll roll estus roll R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll estus estus R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 roll roll roll roll roll estus roll R1 R1
Some fucking PvP you've got here From
>>336312108
A lot of that I think is people rushing through areas in co-op so they can level more PvP characters.
This is how I did invasions the few times I tried.
So when I made a novelty build to play as a Lothric Knight (that also means no estus chugging or running to other NPCs) and got repeatedly shit out by gank squads I wasn't mad so much as I was demoralized. Being an NPC sucks basically.
>>336311524
HOW DO YOU GET SUMMONED AS FARRON WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT
I love this game simply because of these fucking amazingly delicious invaderfag tears.
Goddamn it will never get old.
I don't even play this game either, this shit is just fucking hilarious.
Give me more tears.
>>336312474
Honoraberr deurru fags are faggots.
MOM WHY DO THEY HAVE 3 PHANTOMS REEE fags are insufferable.
If you want to FUCK. SOMEONE'S. GAME. UP. WITH. NO. RISK. then don't expect a walk in the park you faggot. Back in DS2 I used to softban invaders and summon red signs just to ban them. Invading cunts need punishings.
my biggest problem with the game at the moment are the action queues, I don't remember it being this bad in Das 2 or Das 1
>>336310340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOVs6WjMrD4
>>336312726
>Back in DS2 I used to softban invaders and summon red signs just to ban them
DS2 players everyone
>>336310340
>muh ganksquad
Are you new to the franchise?
What's strange is I keep getting reverse ganksquads.
for some reason, I never just have one invader spawn. It's like my internet connection is borked and either I have long stretches with zero invaders whatsoever, but if I DO get invaders, it's always at least two within 15 seconds of one another. And they then gank the shit out of me while I'm busy noob-rolling in some PvE getup while they BTFO me with magic
>>336312292
That's not an actual ganksquad though. There are people that sit around waiting for invaders simply to crush them. I got summoned to a group like that once trying to do what you're describing. Wished I was a mad phantom so I could help those invaders kill.
>>336311538
>Stretch out in the deep water
>Knuckles + seed
>IF they find me, alt f4
>>336312402
Except souls games originally designed invasions to be trolling to the host, since you cant choose to not get invaded without giving up summons. If you flip the script then people will just stop invading and hosts will breeze through the game in boring fashion since there's no challenge in having an armada of summons clear everything for you. This kills the game.
>>336310340
I'm sick of you making this thread
You make all of us look bad
Get good or fuck off
A true dickwraith
You fucking nerd
NG+
Lothric Castle
Every faggot falls for the dragon breath bait. I've been doing it this entire day. And to be frank, get good. The fucking seed just stops you from running into hordes like a idiot, now you have to be a little smarter with baiting hordes.
>aggro hordes
>bring them to host and raff
OP is a fag as usual
>>336312708
Don't worry, I've farmed around 30 tongues from hosts today, so that's plenty more tears from people who were trying to get through the level.
>>336312842
I black cursed people and shit in DS1 online too, faglord. Invaders are scum.
Just did 15 invades in 3 different areas. Every one was at least 2v1. Probably 2/3 were 3v1 and one was 4v1.
I give up. Invasions in this game are utterly broken.
>>336312952
PC players, everyone.
>>336312893
>breeze through the game in boring fashion since there's no challenge in having an armada of summons clear everything for you
You're shitting me right? This was entirely possible since DeS
>>336312948
Congratulations on winning instead of being a little bitch about the game not favoring you.
>>336313018
I cheated in Demon's and DS1 on 360 too, homoking
>>336312989
Fuck off OP, stay away from Red Orbs and stay away from 4chan until you grow up.
>>336312726
>I used to softban invaders and summon red signs just to ban them
Nigger are you fucking serious? What's wrong with you?
If someone who disagrees with summons did the same shit to your autistic ass I'm sure you'd throw a fit, then why is it okay to use certain game mechanics only when it favors you?
Some people man, I swear to god. I just try to imagine what sort of family manages to raise a little shit like you and I can only hope time matures you as a person but I doubt it.
>>336312952
>People are this buttmad about getting invaded
>>336313115
This was my biggest concern with getting the game on PC. I would imagine the playerbase to be way bigger but I never had much trust in Fromsoft with multiplayer (save AC)
No complaints from the Xbone
>>336312402
The invasion mechanics were fine in DaS1. Invaders weren't purposefully gimped, but they didn't get estus whereas hosts could chug all day long, have summons, and drink estus to recharge summons.
Okay so I've been invading a lot lately, and
GIT
CREATIVE
Seriously, the odds are stacked against you, so use the advantages you have. You have surprise on your side, the environment on your side, plenty of sneaky items on your side, and enemies on your side. Play smart, not hard. Invest some points in Faith and get Force or Emit Force, or hell, use Boulder Heave. Nobody ever fucking expects Boulder Heave.
I just hate the entire fucking community after so many fucking 3v1 bullshit I just can't deal with it. The entire fucking community is a bunch of pansies that roll around every fucking level with a full crew spamming estoc and dark sword. It's pathetic.
What's the best way to grief and piss people off? Invasion or not, just whatever makes people's blood boil. I fucking hate them all
>>336312127
muh DS1 covenant
how to fix invasions:
dont tell the host they are invaded
>>336310847
>Stop having fun, stop it, stop it right now! Having fun is for REDDIT
>>336312989
Senpai you aren't very good at playing like scum, you have to use dirty tricks to win when outnumbered. Like using the hornet ring with a big weapon or a great bow + obscuring ring. If you're in a seeded world just lure the mobs to the host. It's all easier said than done but you can't just blindly rush in, it's easy to get cornered that way.
>>336312309
What's the use if all three are always within 5 feet of each other?
>>336313115
I didn't and don't ever summon people.. I just like invader buttrage because they think they're entitled to risk free no disadvantages invading to troll the host. Not on my watch faggots. Enjoy your ban.
Impotent rage is amusing. I question how long you've been here if you don't agree.
>>336313510
Malcolm please go
>>336313279
These delicious bumstung tears.
Fucking hell it's glorious.
>>336313279
Don't be a faggot. Be cool. Want to do something that always makes me feel better? Invade and fight. If you start to lose, run back into the enemies, and black crystal away. You've taken away a good amount of Estus from the host and its phantoms, and they don't get shit for killing you.
You may not get a tongue, but you get the satisfaction of knowing they will have a much harder time at the boss, and when they die, they will curse your name - I guarantee it.
>>336313279
Having a gank squad and trolling invaders that will go around crying that the game is too unfair
>>336312429
That's how I see it too, I have alot of fun invading and just preying on the host. One time I invaded in irythil dungeon and just camped by the 2nd jailer for a solid 10 mins while the host ran back and forth the bonfire trying to find summons or bait me.
It's just a shame there not that many traps in the game or hard chokepoints to capitalize on..
Nothing like the good old Sen's invasions
Maybe the silver knight archers but they're easy to run past
Swamp is okay but way too big an area to search in
>>336313279
Summon guys and then don't go anywhere
You'll waste the summons time and bring in invaders to get killed
Or better yet don't play at all you raging man baby autist
>>336313451
Seed + 3 players is literally impossible unless you're invading retards.
Is it bad I want to do a run just to use the damn Dark Sword before it gets nerfed?
>Invade in the catacombs with +5 fire thrall axe
>cut the bridge
> 1 summon dies to the skeletons
>host runs back to get another
>second summon drops from the side path and is immediately "forced" off the cliff
>"summoning failed"
>use chameleon and hide on the path
>host comes toward boss fog and I emit force them off
>hatemail arrived as I get my sunlight medal
>>336313279
I'm still trying to figure out the best way to troll people in DaS3.
In DaS1, it was
1) invading in sen's fortress and fucking with the host 6 ways to sunday
2) invading in anor londo and roleplaying as a 3rd silver knight archer
>get summoned for co-op
>Invaded by dark spirit xXxRainbowdash420xXx
>remember how shitty and unfun it is to play with or against gank squads
>sit down and allow a fair fight to occur, ready to applaud whoever wins
>invader sees me actively being a non-combatant and tries to get a free kill off me, even though they get literally nothing for doing so
>every single fucking time
Never again. Invaders deserve all the misery they get and more. Enjoy the ganking faggots.
>>336313510
Oh boy, another "4CHAN IS LE INTERNET HATE MACHINE" faggot. PROTIP: No amount of self-righteous fuckery will ever fix your shitty life.
>>336313590
It's near improbable to win those but it's not impossible. What's certain is that you can make the host and phantoms waste estus and resources if you play smart. If you can't win you might as well annoy the hell out of them.
Why can't they just get rid of the dried finger cooldown reset? That, plus make the cooldown longer for each invader you kill. That'd make everyone except gankers happy.
>People who don't want to be invaded and are legitimately trying to beat the level become increasingly safe from invasions the more invaders they kill.
>People who want to invade are less likely to invade worlds that have already killed multiple invaders, which would usually be gankers.
>Ganking becomes less practical and enjoyable since they would have to wait an increasingly long time between each invasion.
>>336313547
Malcolm would summon people just black curse them and make them sit for like 3 minutes before finally dying. I never did that. I only fucked with invader scum.
>2 Watch dogs invade
>run back to bonfire
>engage in a quick battle on that mountain path
>jump down to the water
>I have Silver Cat Ring :^)
>both die
>receive 2 hate mails at once
top ramen
>>336313604
>>336313626
Chameleon + force/emit force with a talisman near a cliff is always amazing
>>336313604
obscuring ring + firelink sword in the catacombs is so much fun, cut the bridge or if they take the other path you just use the weapon art on them
>>336313646
Shit like this makes it really, really easy to say that most of the people complaining about invasions are retarded. In that scenario there was literally no benefit to the invader doing that, but the retard did it anyway instead of playing smart. I bet he complains in these threads.
>>336313853
I want to try this. What area you talking about?
>>336313753
My life is great. Drinking the tears of autistic "muh sanctity of the game" faggots is part of why it's so great.
>>336313905
classic
Sen's funhouse was GOAT for invasions.
>>336313910
I just wish the drake sword would have made a return. Same arte as the firelink sword but faster regular r1/r2
>>336313953
the first bonfire in that swamp area where the watch dogs invade constantly with the 2 giant crabs
>>336313948
>>336313646
The counterargument here is that the invader doesn't actually know that you're a "good guy" and willing to sit the fight out.
There have been so many times where a sunbro has appeared to be neutral and not interfered, and then rushed up behind me for a backstab when it got down to the wire.
There's an inherent mistrust and some people are just used to automatically targeting the summons so they can go after the host afterwards
>>336313963
By far one of my favorite invasion spots aside from new londo and tomb of the giants
>>336313279
Find somewhere with deep water, farron keep or the area just outside of irithyll dungeon will do
kill as few monsters as possible, then knuckle and seed
use the stretch out emote in the water, preferably under some lilies or something
Go eat a nice hot meal while invaderfags either die or give you free souls
For bonus points, put on way of the blue and giggle while the blues get gang-raped by invaders
If they do find you, alt f4
>Do work for the Mound Makers
>Summoned into a 3v1 gank
>Grapes and fingers engaging in jolly cooperation
Feels great gankspanking the host after his entourage is dealt with.
I always summon as many people I can when I get invaded, just for these threads.
>>336313646
invasions are a no rule battle nigger.
every side plays every card they have.
if you want le honor duel go to a fight club, its not that hard
>>336313853
kek. People are ridiculous.
>sunbroing around on my NG+ playthrough
>having a good time
>my rule is that to clear an area I have to have helped at least one host through the entire area
>crucifixion woods becomes a bit of a hurdle because of watchdogs
>run into an invader doing much the same as you
>doing substantial damage to him in the chase so I get tunnel vision
>see him jump off the same edge
>he survives, surely I can to
>die like a jackass
>brother that was watching tells me about silver cat ring
>laugh because I was out fucking played
>>336311260
Matching range and normal enemy immunity retard
>>336314150
Fair point, I just think it's worth the risk to see if they truly sit it out or not. Just be extra careful of your surroundings in that kind of situation. Not easy but invading isn't supposed to be.
>>336314348
The host is capable of having 2 phantoms with them, 3 if they have way of the blue. They're also capable of using the giant seeds, making mobs attack invaders as well. I love fucking with invaders, but they don't have much unless two other enemy phantoms invade as well man.
>>336314345
the best part is if you die from falling your plunge attack doesnt even get through unlike when you trade hits and one party dies
silver cat ring is a golden gift
>summoned to a 4on2 in front of two Princes
>literally spend what felt like an eternity chasing two reds across the balcony
Wow, so fun
>>336312402
Thread should have ended here.
>>336311524
>in law enforcement
>see this
Holy fuck 10/10 would partner with and overtime with
Post music you listen to while invading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw0pIjJLbxI
invade with farron or Aldrich if you want fair fights. You usually get 1v1 or 2v2 and sometimes even 3v3
>>336313054
Babies starting with DaS as their first game are shitposters. Who knew?
>>336314626
>not being mad that she probably sucks at her job and sucks the captain's dick on top of that
>>336314628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0YbD1AIeE
>>336314628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmDYJBZZdc
>>336314628
what the fuck is that song
>>336313054
Nearly no one summoned in DeS. I have hundreds of hours in DeS PvP, and maybe 1% of invasions were not 1v1
>>336310340
The people that designed this.
>>336314628
>Attila
Good taste friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBvgEmCD1x4
>>336314959
>implying that wasn't an extreme bug
Show me another webm of this happening ever.
Favorite stories of invaders doing dumb shit?
I was summoned last night by some guy who was invaded by a purple, while I'm still doing the stand up pose and invincible the grape spends all his stamina trying to attack me and can't defend himself at all once I regain control
>Not using the greatsword of judgement
>Not using hunter charms
>Not using pyromancies like forbidden flame to fuck with backstab fishers
>Not kicking the shit out of people with the horse hoof ring
so I understand that the weapon matchmaking in this game is +/- 2 of your strongest weapon. But does that go the same for unique weapons that only go to +5?
I.e. If I had a +5 dragonslayer spear would I be able to stay in the range of a player of someone who only has a +3 long sword?
>Waaaaaaah I'm put at a disadvantage when I forcibly halt someone's progress in the game :'((
>>336315185
No, unique weapons are doubled. E.G. +5 would have you play with +10 players.
>>336315042
Your game isn't perfect.
Stop being so fucking assblasted.
Chalice dungeons are a fucking chore and you have to practically get to the end of the fucking game to unlock a pvp covenant. Let's not forget how broken blood tinge is and how people love to use flamethrowers and that fucking cannon in pvp.
>>336315029
>RoS
Fucking top-tier right there. Them and Impending Doom were the two bands that got me into the heavier shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXm8mlpQ98A
>>336315294
It's not perfect, there's plenty of flaws. Framerate is a big one, and those launch loading times were unforgivable. But come on, pointing out a rare bug as a serious design flaw is past nitpicking and you know it.
Chalices are a chore but optional, you don't even need them for PVP. Bloodtinge fags blow ass and it's agreeably broken. Cannon is easy as piss to dodge.
How the fuck do you guys deal with r1 spammers? I'm pretty decent pvper, but as soon as someone starts wildly swinging a broadsword, it's like I lose every bit of that
>>336315643
Hit that parry button and hope for the best. It's hard to do it consistently, but then again I have Nigerian internet.
>>336315643
If 1v1, roll away, parry, etc.
If 2v1 and up. Literally nothing. You just die.
>>336315643
if you have a weapon with stomp
L2(stomp) into R2
on the other hand that works too if your opponent tries to parry
works for me pretty much everytime
>>336315643
Black flame, parrying, or hunter charms.
Or just get a shield with 100 physical block and poke with a halberd or a spear.
Iron flesh is a good way to strike back, but it leaves you wide open, and forbidden flame is a great way to fuck with people that go for backstabs.
Alternatively, get something with bleed and make them back off.
>>336314628
>not posting the music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLYoJgbybes
>>336314628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7rq0QB0RA0
>>336316059
this is gold
>>336312147
Are you serious.
>>336316648
Clearly not. Calm down Carl.
>>336311812
Is wretch kyle an npc? He invaded me a bit ago in the archives too.
Why do people take this shit so seriously? I know full well when I use that orb I'll either be ganked or lag backstabbed. Cooping bosses is where the fun's at.
Keep trying redman
>Be Aldrich fag
>Get summoned to some asshole named "Fat Dog's" world
>He's running around in full Havel's, because of course he is, with two other phantoms, all with Havel's shield, and dark swords.
>He's used a seed and is purposely not progressing in the level.
>Get ganked and die quickly
>Think "Whatever" and keep playing
>Get summoned again half a minute later
>It's the same fucking guy
>This continues for about an hour
I eventually just had to take off the covenant because this dude just wouldn't fucking stop ganking. It was the same fucking dude, and there wasn't shit I could do. I tried a different tactic each time, but him and his asshole brigade would just chase me down and R1 spam me to death in seconds no matter what I tried to do.
>>336319414
synchronized swimming.webm
>>336319414
>still using blue baby covenant all the way till Grand Archives
How the fuck did that kid even make it to GA if he still has that covvy equipped?
>>336319879
>all weapons I see now are Yhorms great machete, DS' greataxe, dark sword, and estoc
Even DaS2 pvp was better than this croc of shit. Phantoms helpers shouldnt be able to use estus when theres an invader.
>>336319414
Fahkin cawps
>>336314628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkysjcs5vFU
>>336312582
>not adding in a couple of desperate L2's and R2's
>>336312127
>Literally the same as Blue Sentinels
Yeah, both never get summoned lel. Seriously though, have anot her character made with around 16 hours and I've had the blue sentinels equipped the entire time as soon as I got it and haven't been summoned once.
>>336312147
I hate being invaded and even I think this is retarded.
>>336314626
>Law enforcement posts on 4chan.
>>336314348
you are retarded
>>336311303
what the fuck else is there to do after you beat the game, the world is linear and Ng+ adds nothing
Invaders should just take a break and be on the other side for a bit. both sides can be fun as fuck but you gotta take a break from both before you rage.
>>336321375
what do you mean "even DaS2 pvp"? DS2 PVP was undoubtedly the best of the three games, it had fun systems, excellent weapon choice, fun magicks, and some interesting rings. it was the most fun i've had out of the three, not to mention the fact that it has several dedicated arenas for inter- and intra-covenant duels, and other arenas like the rat labyrinth.
the fatal flaw to it was that soul memory would fuck your matchmaking tiers, but that doesn't mean the pvp itself was bad.
>>336314626
>Law enforcement
>Females
>Willingly having anything to do with them
>>336316059
What the fuck is this.
>mfw when stacking three twinks in farron keep before the ladder to the third bonfire
>destroy anyone that invades our world
when will you people ever learn?
>>336310340
>why is my opt-in no-loss attempt to set another players progression back skewed in their favor waaaaaaaaaah
>>336310639
>summon a friend
>summon you
I love arranged gank squads.
>>336323867
I'm triggered just by watching this.
>>336313853
how did you get cat ring that early?
>>336310340
Everyone in this thread is trolling the OP, but if you look at the current meta of invasions, it's fucking broken as fuck. There should be a mechanic built into the game that prioritizes people that have summons to be invaded. This would bring multiple invaders into the world more quickly.
This is what the game needs. It is broken as it currently is. The gank squads are ridiculous.
>get invaded
>spend about 10 minutes watching this asshole strafe and roll away
Hey, buddy. I just want to get back to playing my game so hurry it up will ya? I'll even give you the win.
>>336314628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3uAkYeQH_s
>>336324286
>There should be a mechanic built into the game that prioritizes people that have summons to be invaded. This would bring multiple invaders into the world more quickly.
the mechanic could be there, but as you can tell when summoning phantoms sometimes only 1 in every 10 summon attempts goes through for whatever reason. you can program it all you want but if the network doesn't work 100% it's all for naught
>>336312127
It would've been perfect if they still kept sin feature in and have dorkmoons hunt sinners while blue sentinels protect bluebabbies.
>>336313646
When I co-op with my friend, the rules for when we get invaded that I follow are as such (I almost always take the duels);
- I won't chug if you don't
- I won't allow my mate to interfere unless you start being a chickenshit and run to hide in enemies or pussyfoot around like a banana-head
- I will fight a fair fight with no bullshit if you will
>invade in the very beggining of irythil, after the bridge
>it's two guys
>one of them bows
>aproach to fight him, the other guy surrounds me an start attacking
>back off, they refuse to move
>run all the way to pontiff
>afk, go meet with a friend, eat a burger and have a drink
>come back, i'm STILL invading
>search a bit, they're now at the little swamp area
>once again after they see me they refuse to move, pretend to have an honoraburu 1 on 1 and try to surround me
>leave and hide near Pontiff for 10 more minutes
>HOST OF EMBERS DESTROYED
nice pvp from
>>336311037
>The only advantage the invader has is gone
You have everything to gain, the host has everything to lose.
Why should you have the advantage in the first place?
>>336324879
>the host has everything to lose
>one fucking ember
>>336324376
Yes this is also a problem but I think it boils mostly down to the amount of people playing and summoning and simple network latency. There needs to be a higher refresh rate to reflect what summon signs are down. I notice they refresh almost always after you attempt to summon and fail. For some reason, I don't think they adequately took into account that the sheer number of people that would be sitting in one area attempting to grab summons.
Still, I think this is a much lesser issue. If getting summons were really a problem then it would be opposite and players would be getting invaded twice and having no one to help, but it is very noticeably unbalanced.
>>336324972
>ember
>dying and losing not only progress but potentially souls
>if they fight they lose time and get nothing if they kill you
back to demons souls pvp builds with one shot dinker builds
>>336325298
If you just wait for the invader by the bonfire he'll come fight you there.
Everyone is so tired of 3v1s i haven't seen an invader who wouldn't take a 1 on 1.
The ember HP advantage is still huge.
>>336325457
I don't even play these games online anymore since it only makes the games easier and pvp is shit anyway, so it's not me you should be saying that to.
I simply said that the host has the most to lose, which is true. So invaders crying over losing the advantage they had is dumb.
>>336310340
Stay mad, bitchmade pussy
>>336325632
>since it only makes the games easier
You don't have to summon people.
>>336326037
>You don't have to summon people.
Signs and bloodstains.
If you now say "you don't have to read them" then I ask you, why even be online?
>>336324226
That's typically how triggers work.
Ganks are fine when they're not premeditated but don't you fucking dare wait around with 2 or 3 or other chuckefucks and wait for invasions.
>>336326163
>Signs and bloodstains.
Why the fuck does this bother you?
To me those things have always been part of the flavor of the game.
>>336323867
>painted nails
>keeps brushing the dirt off her hands
>crouches at the speed of a beached whale
>is a whale
>barely knows how to hold the gun
Why is this allowed
>>336310340
then don't invade others' games, you griefer fishing fagget
>>336326037
This. But people do. The first time I played this game I played it differently than I feel a lot of other people did. I'd get to the next bonfire and see summon signs everywhere, and I was like huh... uh... why are people putting summons down here?
To me, a summon sign has always been a sign of "you're going to need me right here lets just get to it" or that they'd just straight run me to secrets that I wanted to discover on my own. I'd only ever summon phantoms when I found a fog wall.
>>336325632
They lose an ember and progress, which counterbalances the bonus HP and summons rather meagerly.
Reds need to get their souls back from where they died as well.
Host only has something to lose if they are getting their bloodstain.
Just equip the hornet ring and smash that fucking parry button when they all start flailing at you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TZJ7z5xEgg
WHAT GANK SQUADS?
WORKS FOR ME LOL
>>336314348
>Matching range
What? The invasion range has ALWAYS been skewed in favor of the host. For example, Watchdogs or Aldrich Faithful can invade people that are up to 40 SL above them, but only 10 below.
>>336314959
>There are shitters that hasn't figured out how to break from grabs all this time.
It's what? the 5th game in the series? Jesus christ.
>>336326348
>Why the fuck does this bother you?
Because I don't want to ruin the sense of discovery by reading a bunch of messages telling me everything or bloodstains that can literally show me players dying of traps.
At its core these games are SP games, so I started playing them as such since the online elements add nothing.
There are still signs, invaders and shit offline anyway.
>>336326428
>Reds need to get their souls back from where they died as well.
Why would you invade if you have souls you don't want to lose?
>>336326259
>but don't you fucking dare
>>336325632
>the host has the most to lose
That's irrelevant because they opt into the online by using an Ember/summoning phantoms. They are choosing taking the risk of invasions for the benefit of additional health or extra phantoms
>>336310340
Im more upset that poise does nothing, and a covenant reward, a listed armor stat, and a boss weapon do jack shit as a resuilt
>>336326783
It doesn't necessarily do nothing, we just don't know what it does.
Might as well complain about poison weapons or bleed infusion while you're at it because those are useless as well
>>336326974
I will.
Because fromsoft either learned fucking nothing or they rushed ds3 horribly
They also fucking refuse to communicate with their playerbase
>>336310340
no ones forcing you to invade other people
uninstall bidio game
>>336326974
Enough poise makes you not get staggered when you're hit during the recovery frames of a roll (though it's weight that affects how many recovery frames you actually have).
It might also influence the perseverance ability.
In normal circumstances poise doesn't work, a great club and dagger will both stagger you even if you're wearing the heaviest armor in the game.
>>336324879
You don't. It's a host with more health and up to 2-3 phantoms, which is enough to make any encounter or boss in the game a cakewalk. 1-2 invaders balances this and makes it a bit harder for them, but it's still clearly in the host's favor.
>>336327062
I doubt they rushed it, they're probably just incompetent. I mean anyone who plays the game for five seconds could tell you that poison is completely worthless in both PvE and PvP just from a numbers perspective. And yet they left it in the game as is. That's not a time constraint since all they had to do is increase the number, or make the weapons inflict toxic, or have it scale with HP, or have it scale with luck, or change any of number of values that would have been easy to fix. But they didn't
>>336327165
This. Heavy armor and vitality are worthless stats in this game as of now.
PVP is literally fashion souls while maintaining fast roll.
>>336327329
Dont forget that heavy arnor barely gets you more absorption than light or medium
>>336327269
Its just Japanese retardation then
>>336327329
>vit is bad meme
It significantly increases your defense and allows you to equip heavier weapons or carry more options. Literally all they did was transfer most of the defensive value from heavy armor into VIT. It's the same fucking thing
>>336326776
>That's irrelevant
It's not irrelevant because the invaders are crying about fairness and the host being able to turn the enemies against them with seeds.
>>336327491
Vit gives you like one more point of flat reduction per point, if that.
Its only useful for using heavy weapons
even free2play pay2win games I played in the past have better pvp than this, why even bother
>>336324286
That mechanic literally is there you retard. That's why there's so many people complaining about the 3v1s.
People who summon phantoms are much more likely to be invaded.
In order to be invaded by multiple red phantoms, a host needs to use the Dried Fingers.
>>336327571
Fairness isn't the point; the game shouldn't put invaders in an impossible situation. Seeds existed in DaS2 to give the host a way to deal with invaders who were abusing mobs in a 1v1 scenario. They're not really necessary in DaS3 because the host already has a myriad of advantages in any invasion scenario.
Invaders can literally get thrown into a 1v4, where the host has 30% extra health and double the amount of estus, where the phantoms can estus, and where they spawn in the middle of a group of powerful enemies that attack them. A 1v2 is challenging; a 1v3 is extremely difficult; a 1v4 is borderline impossible; a 1v4 where the host uses a seed and you spawn in a particularly bad position is not a situation that any player could ever be expected to succeed in.
I like the way they arranged invasions in DaS3 and I don't mind ganks, but seeds are excessive on top of the matchmaking rules.
>>336327329
>implying it ever wasn't
>>336327963
To be quite fair, it was much worse in DaSII.
In DaSIII, the worst problem is that invaders almost always invade people who have phantoms.
But in DaSII, hosts would have 12 Estus, 99 Lifegems of each type, 99 of the other healing items of each type, Seeds, and then the invader only had 10 minutes to kill the host
>>336327893
>In order to be invaded by multiple red phantoms, a host needs to use the Dried Fingers.
Precisely, and why the fuck would he if it stacked the odds against his favor?
>summon 2 white phantoms for help
>use dried finger so he gets invaded more
pretty sure this isn't whats going on.
>That's why there's so many people complaining about the 3v1s
People are complaining about invading and getting ganked by 3 white phantoms, not hosts getting invaded by 3 red phantoms.
>>336310340
>In previous souls games everyone hated getting invaded
>All the invaders felt like badasses
>Told them to deal with it and git gud
>Now the person getting invaded has the advantage
>Invaders crying like bitches since they're at a disadvantage now
Become proficient
there is one way to fix this.
Make invasions random so the system wont prioritize gank squads.
>>336328112
I think there is a misunderstanding going on here.
In Dark Souls III, using the Dried Fingers allows you to summon one more phantom, but then get invaded by a second dark spirit.
>parry dagger withmail breakerand crit rings
everyone does the same shit, it's so easy
>>336312309
How do they get 10 tongues if they get gangbanged
>>336328295
IIRC you can farm tongues off darkwraiths, they just rarely drop
>invade
>3 phantoms
Cheat Engine time.
>>336310340
>he didn't get his own behelith
How does it feel to not be a chose one, nerd?
>>336328179
>In previous souls games everyone hated getting invaded
Nah, fuck off. Invasions could be a ton of fun from either side. Even when I could lose a ton of souls, it adds such an interesting element to a level that I'd never wish it gone. It's a great addition to the game, especially when Souls games are designed for multiple playthroughs.
Gank squads offer nothing interesting to the game. They exist to waste the time of an invader by throwing them into nearly unwinnable odds, and an easy unsatisfying victory for the ganker. Even if you want to demonize invaders as assholes, at the very worst an invader is someone who gets their kicks out of springing a devious trap on the host and their phantoms. A gank squad gets their kicks by making an unfair encounter and racking up easy kills. It is purely a detriment to the multiplayer.
>>336314348
>normal enemy immunity retard
Only a true retard is too retarded to call someone a retard, retard.
>>336328069
>But in DaSII, hosts would have 12 Estus, 99 Lifegems of each type, 99 of the other healing items of each type, Seeds, and then the invader only had 10 minutes to kill the host
True, but it was also much easier to punish or prevent Estus than it is in DaS3. I would routinely kill hosts before they could heal because the animation took considerably longer and didn't heal instantly. Even if they got the heal off they would often still die to your punish.
That's the whole point with Souls PvP though - it isn't fair for either party. In DaSII (without a seed) the hosts could heal but the invaders could use the enemies. Who has the advantage? The answer isn't clear because it's inherently imbalanced for both sides. Sometimes the host simply wins a war of attrition due to their ability to heal and the invader feels like the system fucked him over. Sometimes the invader enters a world where the host is already getting carved up by a particularly powerful enemy, and just jumps in for an easy kill.
Seeds in DaSIII remove the only advantage the invader has ever been given. I appreciate what From was trying to do - they want to make invasions as chaotic, variable and unpredictable as possible - but the fact is that getting thrust into a world with four players and half a dozen enemies immediately on my ass is a situation where it is impossible for the invader to succeed.
>>336328471
>being a faggot
>not being an annoying dick
You are the cancer of the PC player base
>>336311387
My Nigga, gotta build that pvp setup offline first
>>336310340
It's not ganking if they're co-oping dude.
I have yet to be summoned from a red sign into a gank.
If you're invading expect it retard.
>>336327165
Actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCiVg5HqWLg
Poise preventing you from staggering after a roll is just a rumour based on poor observations. Poise does categorically, actually, absolutely, really, totally, literally, completely, fully, and definitively fuck all.
>never invaded in a Souls game before
>decide to try invading in High Wall as a sunbro
>think I'm gonna be a cool guy invader who doesn't fuck over the host should he be in the middle of a fight or something
>end up doing shitty ambushes almost exclusively because literally EVERY invasion was a three man rape squad
When I managed to get the squad down to one or two the game became fun, but jesus fucking christ is it painful getting there. I feel like going ember form and popping a dried finger just to balance out this retarded matchmaking system.
I made a character, got red eye orb, fire chi, and a small leather shield in under a half hour. I ganked low level shits 20 times in a row, died just once to 4 people waiting on top of ladders. People bitch way too much. The fact that I can get a red eye orb so damn early is awesome, and a parry can still one shot basically anyone. Also if you cry about dark sword/Estoc spam you are nothing but a shitter for getting upset at this games drakesword.
>>336329221
>this games drakesword
What? The drake sword was only good in low-level PvP. The estoc and dark sword are widely considered to be two of the best weapons in the game at every level range. People are still invading well into NG+ with those things
So I've finished seigwards quest line already and I'm doing greirats. I've sent him off to irithyll but talking to patches won't prompt him to ask me where he is? Do I need to beat a boss or something?
>>336329221
>ganked low level shits
wow_its_fucking_nothing.png
>died just once to 4 people waiting on top of ladders
Now imagine that being the norm for a lot of people, and you'll understand where the complaints come from.
>>336310340
If you're a purple invader, you're an idiot
>>336329604
Why's that?
>>336329604
>invade as a mound a couple times
>phantoms literally suicide into my attacks when the host runs out of estus
>kill one of the phantoms by accident and get booted out
Yea, purple invasions are shit.
>muh honorable duel
Kill yourself.
>>336329395
I fucked it up but a friend said Greirat just came back and said Siegward saved him. I think.
My Greirat died because I investigated that well the first time but didn't get a prompt even though I had met him at the tower. Like I remember trying to look down it.
>>336329783
>muh carebear squad playing the game for me
You people disgust me.
>>336329221
>estoc stun locks everything
>the game has no poise
>therefore it is a weapon for which there is no defense
>why are people mad about this lmao?
The Drake sword was just kind of a thing you grabbed early game for easy mode if you were trying to B-line items real quick for a certain build and not some great PVP weapon. The estoc is literally a starting weapon. Admit it, estoc is broken.I don't know anything about the Dark Sword though. Should I check it out?
>>336326386
>barely knows how to hold the gun
You are being too generous.
>>336310340
>he cant win 3 on 1
Git gud
>>336310340
Use magic
>>336312127
I thought they fucking fixed this? I still can't be summoned for shit.
Granted I'm SL 90 with a max level weapon getting ready for invasions in NG+. But still.
