Who came out with the best platformers?
>>336301584
Whatever games you liked or prefer. Both libraries all have their own strengths and weaknesses. Figure it out yourself by playing them and make up your own opinion.
>Paper Mario
>Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
>Platformer
:^)
Whoever made this chart is a retard. A bunch of those games aren't even platforms - kirvybair ride for example.
That said, when it comes to platformers Nintendo definitely wins. That picture only includes ps1 and ps2 era games, but If you include every gen then you'll see that Nintendo almost had a monopoly on the best platformers of all time. I mean, you've got donkey kong country 1-3, returns and tropical freeze, yoshis island. Super mario bros 1, 3 and world, mario Galaxy, mega man 2 and 3, castlevania 1, 3 and 4, ducktales etc.
>>336301584
>Castlevania isnt in for PS1
>>336302224
>kingdom hearts
>air ride
>ratchet and clank
>>336301584
OP, did you even own a PS2 or a Gamecube?
>>336302515
But the best platformer of this gen doesn't belong to Nintendo.
>>336302224
>Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
>not a platformer
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is a platformer.
It's a score attack platformer played using bongos, but it's definitely still a platformer.
Are you thinking of Donkey Konga, perhaps?
>>336302780
Nintendo doesn't own Tropical Freeze?
>>336302780
And what's that? Enlighten us.
>>336302892
>>336302914
>>336302914
Rayman Legends is the best platformer of this gen.
>>336301584
Psychonauts > Nintendo IP platformers > Sony IP platformers
Too bad Psychonauts 2 is going to be shit
>>336302951
Released on Nintendo systems anyway.
>>336303108
It's on Wii U.
>>336302951
Honestly if Splatoon's single player was 100% longer and 25% more complex it would have taken the cake.
>>336303019
The actual platforming in psychonauts is kinda barebones and shitty.
It's the epic lol-random meme factor that people like about the game.
>hehehehe are YOU the milkman?
>>336302951
Legends isn't even better than Origins.
>>336303192
I never got why they write "wry" in the subtitles when he's clearly saying REEEEEEEEE.
Also why the fuck do most groups just write hamon instead of ripple. I mean, 波紋 literally just means ripple and they're shown to be ripples. I can only imagine the first ever person to translate it was really shit at Japanese or something and then everyone else just copied him because that's what everyone was used to.
>>336302951
>>336303348
Yeah it is.
>better and more fluid movement
>contains 40 levels from Origins, all improved
>more selection of characters
>those music levels
It's fucking GOAT. The only thing it doesn't have is a good soundtrack.
>>336303462
Nah, Legends only has better graphics and Barbara over Origins.
>>336302515
Megaman and castlevania were on genesis too, and every other system since then. The only platformers Nintendo has are Mario, donkey Kong, and Kirby. Same with Sony, they only have first party.
If we want to get technical Sega has/had the best platformers, and that's a fact
>>336303735
How is Origins any better than Legends
>>336303828
More challenge, no Murphy, generally superior level design.
>>336303806
Sonic is fucking garbage tier. God tier music, but the gameplay is absolutely terrible.
>>336303976
>more challenge
It wasn't challenging, most of the levels were just tedious as fuck. Fuck the last work.
>no Murphy
Play on PC, PS4 and Xbone then. They removed the gimmicky shit from the Murfy levels (they weren't even bad imo).
>superior level design
kek
Legends wins in this regard.
>>336304135
The Genesis games have excellent gameplay. Go away memer.
>>336303806
All the games listed were exclusive on Nintendo consoles at the time of their release.
>>336304247
>They removed the gimmicky shit from the Murfy levels
No, they only removed the touch controls.
>(they weren't even bad imo)
They are definitely the low points of the game, regardless whether you'd call them bad or not.
>>336304135
I didn't say sonic now did I?
Alex Kidd
Wonder boy
Pulse man
Alien soldier
Vector man
Dynamite heady
Gunstar heroes
Rocket knight adventures
Toejam and earl
Fucking shinobi
All better than any Nintendo platformer, save for maybe Mario 3 and yoshis island
>>336304557
Still better than having to use the shitty AI in the versions that used the touchscreen.
>low points
I agree, but that didn't detract from the fact that the game excelled in almost every other regard.
64 > ps1
Ps2 > GC
>>336304490
But they aren't Nintendo games and never were
Post best music from platformers you've played or heard of.
>>336304294
>memer
Nice insult.
The old 2d sonic games are terrible. Sonic either moves too fast so that you crash into obnoxiously placed enemies, spikes or bounce pads (to almost no repercussions), or he moves slow as shit while you do boring block moving segments or precise platforming. The levels are designed to have multiple routes, but they all play almost exactly the same so there's no point in exploring.
>oh but anon, if you play each game 20 times through and memorise every single enemy placement then it's really fun to fuck around with Sonics physics. Just look at this sonic 2 web m of a guy who knows where every single enemy in the level is
If you need to finish a game 20 times before it becomes fun then it's not a good game. Every single other game mentioned in this thread, be it Nintendo, Sony or otherwise is fun on the first play through.
>>336304889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PYsnonKLBg
The N64 had Mischief Makers and the PlayStation didn't, so the N64 wins that contest.
I honestly can't think of a single 2D platformer worth a fuck on the PS2 or Gamecube, so I'll call that a tie.
>>336304673
Alien soldier isn't really a platformer. It's a good game though.
>>336304996
>forgetting about Strider 2
Fucking kill yourself.
>>336304673
>Alien Soldier
>Gunstar Heroes
>Toejam and Earl
>platformers
What the fuck are you doing?
>no Ristar
>no Quackshot
What the FUCK are you doing?
>>336301584
PS1 platformers were better than the N64 ones besides Mario 64. Rare gets all of the credit but Spyro and Crash are way better.
>>336305081
I didn't know that Strider 2 even existed.
It's originally an arcade game though, so that's not a point in the PlayStation's favor.
>>336304889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM4_4-2YlYo
>>336305293
But it's only available on the PS1, unless you can afford to buy the fucking cabinet.
I bet you didn't even know about the Adventure of Little Ralph, a great PS1 platformer.
>>336304996
Viewtiful Joe
>>336301584
What the hell is that GameCube controller
>>336304996
Klonoa, Tomba, Adventure of Little Ralph, some Goemon games, Silhouette Mirage, Umihara Kawase Shun, Adventures of Lomax, etc.
>>336305643
don't forget about Heart of Darkness
>>336305540
More beat em up than platformer.
Ps2 had klonka though.
>>336305509
>But it's only available on the PS1, unless you can afford to buy the fucking cabinet.
It could be played in arcades and MAME exists. Point is that Strider 2 isn't a PS1 exclusive.
>I bet you didn't even know about the Adventure of Little Ralph
You're right, I didn't. I've never heard of it. Of course, it being Japan-exclusive doesn't help matters. I'm supposed to know every single video game ever released for every game console, even games that never even came out in my region?
>>336305540
Can you really consider Viewtiful Joe a platformer? I've always thought of it as a beat 'em up.
>>336304996
I fully agree that the n64 had better platformers than the ps1, but mischief makers is the most over rated giant turd that I've ever had the misfortune of playing, and the only reason nobody ever acknowledges this is because nobody has ever played it.
>>336305827
>You're right, I didn't. I've never heard of it. Of course, it being Japan-exclusive doesn't help matters. I'm supposed to know every single video game ever released for every game console, even games that never even came out in my region?
Well yeah, why the fuck wouldn't you? If you didn't, you have no reason to be saying which is objectively better if you haven't played anything from either library.
>>336304923
Sonic is fun on the first play through.
The solution to running into shit constantly is to not fucking suck at video games. The classic games are generally pretty good about not placing enemies and obstacles in areas where you're likely to be going fast (parts of Sonic 2 aside).
>>336306004
>why the fuck wouldn't you?
I'm sorry for not being a walking encyclopedia of Japanese PS1 games.
>you have no reason to be saying which is objectively better if you haven't played anything from either library.
But I have. Mischief Makers is simply better than any 2D platformer I've ever played on the PS1, so I said confidently that the N64 was a better platformer machine for that alone, despite the fact that overall the N64's library is pretty shitty.
>>336306262
Ahh, the old "get good" argument.
>>336305827
>I'm supposed to know every single video game ever released for every game console, even games that never even came out in my region?
If you're going to make sweeping judgements about a console's library I expect you to be somewhat knowledgeable on the subject, yes.
Op did you make that picture yourself? Why are you so retarded?
>>336306497
I'm not even saying get good. I'm saying stop being complete fucking dogshit at video games. Sonic isn't even remotely challenging outside of a few sections in the first game. That you're struggling to avoid damage is pathetic.
And anyway, what the fuck argument do you expect in response when your criticism is "I can't stop running into every enemy, guys, it's the game's fault"?
>>336301584
>kingdom hearts as a platformer
>not psychonauts
awful
>>336306529
Not him, but you sound like a hugely pretentious faggot. Do you seriously think you've played every single platformer ever released on a Sony or Nintendo console? I fucking doubt it.
Don't tell me you've never engaged in a discussion on /v/ about which of 2 companies has better IPs. Have you played every single game ever made? Please, debate with me about why Flower, Sun and Rain is a better Suda 51 game than Liberation Maiden sin, or why death smiles is a more enjoyable horizontal shoot em up than akai katana. Regail me with your opinions on why Go Go minon can't compare to kabu trader shun.
>>336306738
It's not challenging because there's barely any penalty for taking damage.
Sonic 1 and 2 are wrought with backwards bounce pads and enemies placed only to annoy the player.
>>336301584
> platformers
> 2016
Way to stay relevant mate
>>336307316
And they are easily avoided. Stop being complete fucking dogshit at video games.
>>336306382
You've played nothing then. Kill yourself.
>>336301584
mario 64 > ps1
ratchet and clank > gamecube
>that gamecube controller
>>336302951
Remember when it was Wii U exclusive?
>>336307589
Thank god it got ported.
>>336307204
It's not about knowing every single game ever, you strawmanning fuck.
I'm saying don't make claims about subjects you don't know anything about.
Do you want some fuck telling you how Flower, Sun and Rain is better than Liberation Maiden SIN when the only Suda51 game he's played is No More Heroes?
No, right?
Then you agree with me.
>>336308046
Just because that guy didn't know one Japanese ps1 game that was never even released in his region, does not mean that he can't give an informed argument about which company has had the best platformers. There are hundreds of platformers releases on Sony and Nintendo consoles.
Grasshopper on the other hand has made a few dozen games, maybe like 15 of which at most Suda has had any direct hand in making.
>>336301584
ps1 and 64 are pretty much dead even but the ps2 pulled out way ahead when they got those 3 iconic franchises
>Ratchet
>Jak
>Sly
all excellent games
>>336308601
Of those games only sly and the first jak game even count as platformers.
Ratchet is as much a platformer as devil may cry.
>>336301584
>Kingdom hearts
>Ratchet and clank
>kirby air ride
>platformers
