Why does the trailer have so many dislikes?
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because cawadooky number 48573623
that and hurrr cod 4 HD remaster :^)
Why is everyone Shitting on futuristic shooters as a concept?
>Normies cry over space and not muh COD
>Others cry about it being COD
>>336293916
because its (unlike all the other rehashes) literally the same game you've already played
Because COD 4 remaster isn't available as a standalone purchase.
>>336294459
it all looks the same
>>336294564
maybe later, they probably want people to pay full price for a while
>>336294489
Why would anyone not want space?
Do CoD drones ACTUALLY want another "hurr russian nukes, boots on the ground, OO-RAH" rehash?
HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU PLAY THE SAME FUCKING GAME
>>336294589
Which is sad. They have the creative freedom to do so much, and yet, we are presented with shit.
>>336294647
Maybe people are already getting sick of the scifi trend?
>>>/b/
Fuck off.
Maybe normies are learning. I hope one day they learn with the Pokemon franchise
BECAUSE IM SO FUCKING SICK OF FUTURISTIC HORSESHIT WITH JETPACKS AND OTHER FUCKTRASH SHIT THAT I LITERALLY WENT OUT AND BOUGHT MULTIPLE STAND ALONE IP ADDRESSES SO I COULD NEGATIVELY BOMB THE TRAILER BECAUSE FUCK YOU JUST GIVE ME BOOTS ON THE GROUND ACTION AGAIN
>>336294741
>trend
this is only the third true sci fi cod. everything from cod4-cod:ghosts was gritty marine modern warfare.
>>336294459
They're scared of actually having to get gud
>>336294589
>>336294739
if you're blind maybe
>>336294870
>normies
>>>/r9k/
Scram.
>>336293916
Well for one the reveal trailer is fucking awful.
Looks like some fan-made thing.
That piece of building coming down the hill had no momentum,mass, or speed.
It's like they let the fucking interns play with the alpha and make a movie.
>>336294647
Because the fanbase doesn't know how to shoot up or down. I remember favela getting a lot of hate in mw2. Personally, I don't give a shit about IF after the shit stain that was mw3.
>>336293916
kids who grew up on modern military shooters can't handle change
>>336294927
the last boots on the ground modern warfare shooter was ghosts and everyone hated it. there's only been two future cods. that's two years of future cods. you weirdos are acting like call of duty is even crazy scifi. advanced warfare and black ops 3 were only "scifi" in that the developers thought "wut of our modern warfare marines had jetpacks". that's it. that's the "Crazy futuristic"ness that triggers you. cod has barely done anything interesting in the future and you people are already begging for generic modern shooters again even though that's what we had for like 10 years straight.
>>336294962
but destiny and titan fall also exist
>>336294459
Futuristic is an an excuse to tone down the realism and sell more games to the skeptical parent with an 11 year old.
>>336293916
>no link
>>336294962
>Black Ops
>Black Ops 2
>Advanced Warfare
>Black Ops 3
>Infinite Warfare
>>336294647
i hope its like vanquish where we fight communist space robots in a space colony that is actually a super weapon
It's getting too sci-fi for the marine wannabe crowed.
>>336295242
It seems more like we're getting a Gundam sort of situation
I don't know, I don't actually follow the plot of CoD
>>336294927
you can play old ones, cod 4 and mw2 were still alive
Can't wait for Call of Duty Infinity Ops next year.
>>336295236
>cold war
>future
>>336295242
>i hope its like vanquish
I don't.
Vanquish is fucking awful.
I have no idea why /v/ loves that fucking game.
Oh right.
>Platinum
Because future shit has a completely different fanbase.
Shitty David Bowie cover that sullies his legacy with this dudebro trash.
>>336295193
>realism
Some people don't have to simulate everything, because they go outside. They even play games for fun!
Because it looks as shitty and boring as IW's last two games.
CoD fans figured out that Treyarchand maybe Sledgehammerare the only ones who make CoD games worth a shit. CoD fans aren't exactly the sharpest batch of tools but even they figured out that IW was crap after Ghosts.
>>336294564
It probably will be like 3 weeks after Infinite Warfare is out.
>>336295353
>a game where you re-live your memories by being hooked into a fucking animus
>not sci-fi
>>336295354
i meant like the story, i know CoD wouldnt have the same gameplay
Because COD babbies hate science fiction because they're brain dead spooks and spics that can't understand it.
>>336295236
>>Black Ops
>>Black Ops 2
>future warfare
there wasn't a single futuristic thing in black ops 1
http://www.cod7blackops.com/weapons/
i literally can't think of a single weapon or perk
and the only "future" stuff in black ops 2 was the scope that could see through walls but that got nerfed so hard you never saw it anymore. 99.9% of black ops 2's guns and perks and items were all just modern warfare. guns you could literally go buy right now. if 1 futuristic sope in a game is so futuristic for you that it triggers you forever then you're just a weirdo who is too sensitive to these things.
The concept sounds fun. Haven't seen the trailer but I'm expecting unreal tournament.
Last COD I bought was MW3. Last COD I played was Black Ops II. Feels good. Where's my World at War remaster fuckers? that's the best COD afterall
>>336295181
Ghosts wasn't modern. If I don't get to shoot a russian with an m16 and shoot RPGs at terrorists it ain't fucking modern. So if you count BO2, Ghosts, AW, BO3, this new one is the FIFTH future setting game in the series to date. MW3 was generic, but that's because half the team quit during the cycle. We just want another MW2. Some more creative innovation within the modern setting, and that game had plenty.
>>336294647
>Do CoD drones ACTUALLY want another "hurr russian nukes, boots on the ground, OO-RAH" rehash?
>implying that won't be exactly what this is, except with two zero G levels and two on-rails space fights
>>336295446
>short
>sliding isn't even fun
>SPEED SPEED SPEED THIS GAME IS FAST
Except the bosses.
>they forgot to actually work on the rest of the game after jerking off to the sliding
And then the rest are Platinum staples that people seem to like for what ever reason.
>>336295439
Fuck off, Cod's realistic games were far better than the Halo ripoffs.
redpill me on the overarching plot of cod
>>336295660
>Ghosts wasn't modern.
>modern setting, modern guns, modern perks, modern items, modern kill streaks
what the hell was futuristic about ghosts. the little helicopter drones? we have all that shit in real life.
there's only three future ones. blops 3, advanced warfare, and infinity jew.
>>336295814
no they aren't
>>336295556
>its future
>bad mega corp or not-so-friendly-afterall not-police
>generic mechs because what's FUTURE SCIFI without mechs
>oh no war
>but IS THERE A DEEPER PURPOSE?
>THIS ALL REVOLVES AROUND YOU MC
>JUST KIDDING , FOOLED YOU HU
COD went to shit after 2
Went to the sewer with 4.
Redeemed itself with BO/2
Then went to shit again
>mfw cowwadoody kiddies just found out about bowie thanks to the trailer
fucking hell
>>336295814
>CoD
>realistic
>>336293916
Who the fuck are you people? Every single fucking year it's the same thing that when a new COD gets released people start shitposting on /v/ "LOOK COD ISN'T SHIT ANYMORE THEY ADDED LIKE THREE NEW FEATURES THEY'RE GOOD"
>>336293916
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF3UTkCoxY
Fuck they're going full sci-fi now? Pretty cool shit, I was waiting for this for awhile.
>>336295676
>playing a cod campaign
everyone gets it for the multiplayer
>>336295814
>Halo ripoffs.
lmao at how sensitive codfreaks are to scifi. no codgame since cod4 has even been close to as good as halo. and halo is science fantasy set in the far future. cod's """"""""""""""futuristic""""""""""""""" warfare that is triggering you brodudes is just generic modern warfare gunplay with a robot running in the background punching a drone.
>>336295932
COD 1-3 were hella good and shit on Halo
CoD: Universal Warfare is the next logical step after this, then after that Dimensional Warfare?
hopefully we'll get aliens and different planets
>>336293916
>space battles
>looks like the same bullshit
>mediocre graghics
>80% of the game is cut-scenes
at least they remaking cod 4 i might actually play that
>>336296024
I have never played a CoD before in my life.
I'm asking because this seems like the only interesting one so far, and yet it's gotten an overwhelmingly negative response.
>>336296127
they were terrible
>>336295814
>mw2
>good
>mw3
>good
>ghosts
>good
IF made one good modern day shooter.
>>336296015
people found out who that faggot was after he died
>>336295660
Ghosts is alt-history, the weapons and tech level is current, just due to different geo-politics orbital weaponry is acceptable
>>336295676
It's not going to on-rails. They said you can transition from fighting on the ground to using your ship.
>>336295660
lol what the fuck about Ghosts was futuristic. the shoehorned space level at the end that took 5 minutes? The entire rest of the game was basically MW3.5.
>there are people that actually play the tedious, uninspired, scripted, unfun cod campaigns
Walk forward
Long expository dialogue
Scripted explosion and plane crash
Chest high walls and wack-a-mole shooting gallery
Cutscene
QTE in middle of cutscene
Cutscene ends
Walk forward
Repeat
even normies are tired of COD
It's Halo but more scripted and lifeless.
Basically if you buy it then you're a faggot.
>>336295827
There isn't one, all the games with the same subtitle are part of the same story, but theres nothing linking AW to black ops or black ops to MW
>>336295879
Ghosts is a game set in a post-apocalyptic future, how in the fuck is that a modern setting? It has plenty of made up weapons and technology. You forgot Black Ops 2. That's not a future game? It was marketed as one. This isn't hard to get.
>>336296339
so the games by different devs are in their own continuities?
why are they all called "call of duty?"
>>336296181
>2
>bad
kys
>>336295181
Black Ops 3 had all the AI and cyberwarfare future stuff
>>336293916
>The newly announced remaster will only be available in a bundle with certain versions of Infinite Warfare
>>336295827
War never changes
http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Timeline
>>336296360
Ghosts and blops 2 = modern warfare guns in the same modern warfare levels we played a million times with modern warfare killstreaks and modern warfare everything how the fuck are they not modern warfare? because of two random items no one used because the the devs are bad a balancing?
>blops 2
>game is set maybe 5 years in the future
>OMG IT'S HALO NOOO
it's all the same shit. blops 2 fits right in there with the rest of the modern warfare games so does ghost.
>>336296104
Halo does scifi well, because it's supposed to be sci fi, it was built that way from the ground up and not as an afterthought. Cod's best games were Cod4 and MW2, their creative ability was limited to modern technology and they did not have an excuse to do literally anything, like teleportation mid gunfight. I do not want to see that shit.
As someone who ONLY wants futuristic or WW2 and absolutely HATES modern military, which CoDs should I play?
>>336296431
they have like 4 different stories off the same name
call of duty is a money making name and devs are cashing in
>>336296431
(modern) Call of Duty just means you're getting a fast paced shooter with a military campaign, a co-op mode and a fast paced perk based multiplayer. You buy CoD because you know the kind of gameplay you're getting.
>>336296617
Infinite Warfare
>>336294459
call of duty is shit as a futuristic shooter desu.
>>336296071
MW1/MW2 and BO1/BO2 had great campaigns.
I mean MW2's was retarded, but it was fun retarded.
>>336296617
2, WaW and the black ops
>>336296617
the first 3 maybe 4 and thats it
>>336296617
If you are looking for a campaign, then read >>336296330 and get none of them.
>>336296360
Nothing in Ghosts is made up other than the orbital weapons, all the guns and vehicles are real except for the A10 drone which is an A10 with no pilot.
Its not even post apoc, most of the gameplay takes place in either the untouched central and south America or the parts of America that weren't hit
>>336294741
>trend
It's called a genre you daft fuck.
Because its COD
And normies are finally getting tired of COD.
The futuristic COD games are the only good ones aside from COD 1 and 2. The problem is that the gameplay never evolved to go along with the whole robot drones and cybernetic implants thing. It was still just an ultra simplistic, linear shooter that they tacked a double jump and cooldown based superpowers onto. Might as well just be WWII games again since there's no meaningful difference.
>>336294189
>The same people shitting on CoD unironically like other shitty games that have done far worst then CoD
This stupid fucking band wagon has gone to far. CoD may get stale but its better then half the shit these memeing fucks play.
>>336296780
You know PA doesn't have to mean pop-culture zombies right?
Ghosts has a traditional PA story.
>>336293916
Because casuals are new to the industry and think WW2 shit is a good thing because they weren't into gaming pre-2007 and wont stop crying until we get another decade of 8320 copy-pasted Saving Private Ryan simulators.
>>336296882
Atleast BO3 actually insists you use your environment and has several main mechanics encorced in both SP and MP instead of just typical COD GUNZA BLAZING.
Too bad it runs like absolute dogshit though.
Hope they fix it because I unironically enjoy it.
>>336296926
Yes and by your logic all the WW2 games are PA because they were both opened with large surprise attacks. Society still functions as normal, most of the world is still untouched, the only difference is theres a large devasted no-mans land just like the non PA WW1.
>>336296593
>it's all the same shit
You're a retard. Don't tell me shooting someone with some made up XPV 4250 standing on a lightrail in pic related to get your Hunter Killer drone is the same as shooting someone with a hunting rifle across a forest in a ghillie suit. It's not. Setting is the entire aesthetic of the game.
>>336294962
>>336296797
trend, like the WWII trend, that gave way to the modern warfare trend, that gave way to the current futuristic warfare trend.
>>336297096
But you're wrong in saying most of the gameplay doesn't take place in the heart of it.
>>336297056
Well, we just had a decade of copy-pasted black hawk down simulators
Apocalypse now simulators never really took off, so what movie can we rip off for 10 years next?10 years of westerns please
>>336297085
It still barely even functions on Xbone, I can't really play it because it just crashes all the time. Doubt they'll fix it at this point, the support for these games is limited to just shitting out map packs, they don't actually care about patching past the first month of two.
>>336297225
Except it is when you're dolphin diving dying in 3 hits respawning in 2 seconds to do it all over again
COD is the most watered down FPS ever made, and its only dragged down the industry with it.
>>336295274
Fucking this. All the people crying about not having Cold War/WW2 game with copy-pasted plot/weapons/set-piece battles #87525099 are airsofting 'operator' teenagers and kidults relatively new to gaming.
I'm so fucking sick of WW2 being the ez-mode cop out setting. It's quite possibly the most overdone shit in the entire gaming industry and it's always the same normandy/stalingrad/kursk/berlin/tiger/garand/mosin sniper/FOR DA MOTHERLAND bullshit over and over with no room for creativity, or fuck, at least touching on less-done shit because they want to stay 'familiar' so casuals will buy it.
How many fucking times can we do Stalingrad sniping missions, D-Day, and grenade spamming in Berlin? Seriously, what is the fucking allure of WW2? I mean jesus christ, at least do fucking Korea so you'll have the same equipment but some different fucking scenerey and setting to work with or something, christ.
>>336295439
Yes let's go outside and fight in WW2
I actually enjoyed Advanced Warfare. The story was earnest and the multiplayer was a giant middle finger to campers
>>336294459
Because all CODs have been futuristic shooters with piss poor aesthetics since BO2 and this one appears to be no different
>>336293916
Cod shitters wanted their yearly dose of shit, not a good game.
the use of space oddity felt gross
>>336297578
Wolfenstein The New Order from a couple years ago was the best WWII game since Medal of Honor Allied Assault or Call of Duty 2 for the very reason that it was very different and totally committed to the alternate history sci-fi stuff.
>>336297443
You haven't played it as much as me and other MW2 vets, they would all tell you how much a role the fine details play, how the intricacies in the games' differences make one game fun and another one shit. Casuals like you who rush to these games when they get popular are dragging the industry down if anything.
>CoD game has space combat
>Star Wars game doesn't
>>336297761
Agreed, fucking terrible cover and felt disrespectful considering he just died earlier this year.
>>336294647
of course they do
they've been playing the same game for almost a decade
>>336294564
Bro why can't people just spend $80 and sell infinite warfare. Holy shit just sell infinite warfare for $40 on Craigslist or something.
>>336293916
Its gotten so unbelievable that this is still a thing its beyond a joke...
>>336297954
>Battlefront lets you fly the fighters and they're in multiplayer
>this is just on-rails "cinematic" shit like every other COD campaign has had
Nice try
>>336297941
>MW2 vets
>intricacies in a COD game
lol
>>336297826
I can agree with this. What made it good was that it wasn't a 'real' WW2 game.
There's just nowhere to take a historical WW2 game. It's a complete dead end. A horse beaten into a pulp. Absolute, boring, lazy, uninspired dogshit that doesn't deserve to be humored but keeps getting propped up by casuals new to gaming.
I can't even tell the fucking difference between Battalion 1944 and Days of War. if you remove their titles and UI's and just have them playing in two screens next to each other, I literally couldn't tell which was fucking which.
When will this shit fucking stop? Why do people shell out so much fucking money for this and encourage a bunch of 'me too' developers to scramble to follow suit? Fuck 'gamers'.
>>336298141
>implying that it wont be apart of the multiplayer
>>336296902
>done far worst then CoD
>>336298092
>He's a part of the 'I wish CoD went back to being REALISTIC!' crowd
>>336296015
Kys
>>336298182
>There's just nowhere to take a historical WW2 game.
Alternative timelines?
Side switching?
Aspect switching?
Alternate technology progression timelines?But then autists would freak out because it's different from their universe's logical technology progression
Literally
LITERALLY
L I T E R A L L Y THOUSANDS
of options.
>>336297941
I hope for your sake this is just some pasta based off a YouTube comment
>>336298141
fucking hell
all I've ever wanted is a modern, high-budget game about spaceship fights in space
why does everyone fuck it up?
>>336293916
I wonder too, it's the only appealing CoD they made since 4
I'm genuinely thinking about buying it.
>>336298382
Or you could go completely insane andcare more about the gameplay
>>336298151
That's why you're a casual. I'm sorry you didn't get a taste of the adrenaline inducing head games trying to clutch 4 motherfuckers when your whole team is spectating you. MW2 had this experience on lock.
>Still no Vietnam
I PLAY MONSTER REBORN
>>336298521
Literally all of those things encompasses or influences gameplay.
>>336296332
>normies
It's normalfag, newfriend.
Just a heads so you don't embarrass yourself anymore
>>336298557
>COD kid
>Calling anyone casual
>>336296071
okay
>>336298573
Black Ops 1 was Vietnam.
>>336298573
>>336298717
VIETNAM FUCKING SHITS?
>I want futuristic shooters
There's Halo, blops 3, advanced, and the one that's 3rd person and starts with a v made by Japanese developers.
I on the other miss shooting Jews.
>>336297624
amen. i fucking loved that game.
>>336297624
There's something very sweet and unassuming about that message that kinda embodies AW.
It wasn't the best game or the best CoD, but you could tell they were just so fucking excited to do all kinds of crazy shit with the IP. Customizable scorestreaks, crazy weapons and movement, FUCKING LASERS.
I hope they make a more refined game with their next try.
>>336298690
You wanna make some non-casual arguments casual?
>not muh CoD
It looks way better this way, the modern shooter meme dying is something I welcome with open arms.
It wouldn't sell very well, but /v/ would be a lot more receptive to this trailer if it didn't have Call of Duty in the name. Fact.
>>336298573
pst kid
>>336298141
>According to Minkoff, Infinite Warfare will offer a seamless experience in which players are fully invested in not only their character, but also their vehicle. "It's kind of the Top Gun fantasy," he explained, noting that "it's your fighter that you get to upgrade and customize. You get to walk along the flight deck and have the flight crew preparing it for you and saluting you and you get into it and you fly out into these crazy missions that you chose to go to."
>Instead of fragmenting the game by shoehorning in vehicle sequences, "they are seamlessly woven into the fiction of the character and the mechanics of the game," providing an experience that Minkoff described as being "completely holistic."
>In this way, "you can be boots on ground, fighting through the streets of a city on earth, call down your Jackal, get into it, fly up through the atmosphere, engage in a dogfight over the orbit of earth, finish that dogfight, land on the deck of the carrier, get into the carrier, go up to the bridge, and order your ship to go to the next mission and all of it happens seamlessly with no loading screens."
>>336298382
Apparently you missed the part where I said
>I can agree with this. What made it good was that it wasn't a 'real' WW2 game.
The only way to make a WW2 game decent is to make it not based in historically accurate settings so you can have creative freedom
Going full-edge and making a game from the German perspective doesn't do jack shit for the gameplay. It's still the same boring shit, just surrounded by different uniforms.
>>336298557
>he's serious
You're the biggest joke I've seen all year and I watched BvS
>>336298971
LITERALLY STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT 3
HOLY SHIT
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
>>336298459
But my gamer days were more fun than yours, and you gotta admit that's pretty funny :^)
>We're finally at that point where there are more MW2 nostalgia fags then Doom or UT nostalgia fags
>>336298792
>More shitty Vietnam memes.
No. How about an actually interesting war that has room for decent gameplay, like Korea.
Or better yet, no more historical games at all. They're all stupid as fuck and shackle you to being 'accurate' and predictable.
>Vietnam game comes out
>Constant 'IT AINT ME' shilling
>>336297056
Why is Adolf Hitler, Chancellor of Nazi Germany (1939-1945) wearing a modern EOD helmet with an SS Fallschirmjäger uniform wielding the STG-44 which he so despised and paradropping into the sea into the path of a King George V class Battleship that has suddenly had its A and B turret configuration changed to a 3 gun configuration instead of its standard 4 gun A turret and 2 gun B turret?
>>336294654
>HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU PLAY THE SAME FUCKING GAME
>>336298971
if any of this is true: instant GOTY
it's pandering directly to my video game fetishes
>>336298971
STAR CITIZEN
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT OF THE WATER
BTFOW
>>336299281
At least those games play differently.
>>336294459
All of them were WWII
Then all of them were Modern
Now all of them are Future
It would be more interesting if they had the three studios do different eras to give time to breathe between all these shitty near-future games that all look identical.
>>336298971
There goes the thought of selling Infinite warfare and keeping modern warfare. Now I got to play both.
4 reasons especially with that presentation they had to reveal it
1. It's a load of shit, it really pissed a lot of people off that they were exaggerated how much they would change but they barely doing good shit in space
2. He kept bullshitted using an illuminated word like "Boots to the ground"
3. You have to spend $80 attached to Infinite to get Modern Warfare remastered when it only has 10 of the maps
4. They mentioned followings Treyarch's footsteps in the Multiplayer, that is horrendously wrong, Treyarch makes tne better games but the online multiplayer components are absolutely garbage, especially when all the maps feels samey
>>336296258
most likely for one mission and not at any time
>>336298971
If this is true, i'd pre order the game in an instant
>>336295619
>there wasn't a single futuristic thing in black ops 1
>Ray Guns
>Teleporters
>Moon
>>336298378
>kys
Stop abbreviating it facebookfag
Now kill yourself
>>336298971
There's no way it's actually gonna work this way.
>>336298971
and, even if true, ABANDONED AFTER 1 YEAR
>>336298971
fuck man, I need this to be true.
>>336299424
not really. puzzles maybe
I liked the look of the space battles, that might be fun for like 3 matches.
I'll play the beta.
>>336298971
I didn't realize Peter Molyneux worked for Activision now. Enjoy your disappointment when none of that is in the final game.
>>336293916
Because they locked Cod 4 behind the legacy edition fuck them
>>336294459
>>336294459
im all for shooters set in the future, the problem is the future setting especially in cod games is completely unimaginative
>>336299658
Should have read the whole thread before posting that, m8
>People disliked Ghostsi think it was a damn good game that went to shit after the 1st DLC and the PS4/Xbone got released, it went to shit afterwards, but i still liked it.
>>336299281
least those games get 5 year breaks in between, usually only one or two per console and they change the game a good deal. cod's been at it for a decade. ten cods in ten years and if you showed gameplay from 3 of them randomly selected and showed them to a normie, they'd all think it were the same game.
>>336293916
When can I shoot 12 year olds as a nazi again?
>>336300129
But being imaginative is on the developers, and when a market becomes saturated with people to hire you no longer have to pay for the elite game-changing motherfuckers. You can take their innovation and not change a damn thing, at least as long as it sells
>>336298792
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN
I've been playing CoD since 2 (console fag. it was 2005, i was 10, etc) but I am even more excited on how this turns out. The only two games that I really didn't click with were Ghosts and AW, but the issues were with maps, and game balance respectively.
If IW learned their lesson from Ghosts (which is probably why there isn't a Ghosts 2), I think that this one will be really nice.
>>336299782
so by that logic waw is shit because it has the ray gun and teleporters
>>336295527
it's not even an animus stupid nigger. it's just mason retelling his experiences. the missions are an abstraction of that
>>336294459
cause it's not ww2
>>336298573
they already did vietnam, albeit briefly
>>336300454
preaching to the choir
>>336298307
What has CoD done but be fucking successful and a bunch of other companies try to replicate it piece by piece.
Its not CoD's fault every other game tries to copy it and it certainly isn't there fault the fans are okay with getting jewed left and right.
Its a fucking company making a profit to say something like CoD did bad things to the company is like blaming WoW for every other MMO trying to copy it.
Devs need to stop being unoriginal faggots.
>>336300638
but i thought people were sick of WW2
>>336300825
People were but now nostalgiafags who wouldn't buy it anyway are complaining and people who never played when ww2 shooters were everywhere are jumping on the bandwagon
Bowie must be screaming at us from Mars right now
>>336299782
>a cold war and WWII game is futuristic because it has a zombie arcade mode with a fictional weapon
Kill yourself
>>336299281
DELETE THIS!!!!!
MY ZELDA, POKEMON AND MARIO GAMES ARE ALL GOOD AND NOT THE SAME AT ALL!!!!!!
>>336300941
then why don't these faggots just play red orchestra or war thunder
>like 8 modern warfare games in a row
>two future ones come out
>ugh, im tired of all this future crap! bring back boots on the ground, i wanna use my m4 again!
>Need to buy the legacy edition for MW Remastered
One fucking job
>>336293916
Because normies think they're being counter cultural by playing Fallout 4/battlefield and hating on call of duty.
There is no other reason.
>>336293916
Does it even matter?
It will sell a shitton of copies anyway.
>>336301015
>MY ZELDA, POKEMON AND MARIO GAMES ARE ALL GOOD AND NOT THE SAME AT ALL
You seem triggered by that fact or else you wouldn't have to false flag.
Enjoy brown and bloom.
>>336301378
he's joking around you sperg
>>336298521
but its so hard to make the gameplay interesting when the setting, weapons, characters and plot are all completely bland at this point.
>>336294647
Tbqh I'd buy a CoD if it was basically World in Conflict: the FPS.
>>336301132
We only had 3 true modern warfare games and the third was basically a half aborted fetus.
New one will be the fifth CoD game in a future setting if you count Ghosts.
>>336301615
that's what MW2 and MW3 were
>fighting in D.C.
>fighting in new york
>fighting in paris
>fighting in berlin
>fighting in hamburg
>>336294459
>>336294647
fuck off space niggers
>>336301673
bo2 was not that futuristic, at least not as much as aw or bo3
>>336293916
Because its an Infinity Ward game. MW3 and Ghost were the worse in the series.
>>336296171
you need the new game to get the old one
>>336298971
if this is true I will go to activision and suck everyone's dick
>>336297578
>How many fucking times can we do Stalingrad sniping missions
Blame Enemy at the gates for that.
>D-Day
Spielberg and Hanks - for that.
You highlighted one of the WWII shooters most fundamental problems - lack of their own identity. Almost every one of the AAA crowd is just an implementation of one of the said movies with some Guns of Navarone or Desert rats ripoff mission added on the big holliday IF the devs are feeling really generous. What about a fucking game with Kelly's heroes or Dirty dozen-like story if devs are want to rip movies off that bad?
>inb4 Hidden and dangerous
Hardly a mainstream that we are talking about.
But really, i miss the AAA WWII shooters. Not as an industry's default setting, hell no, but the modern warfare/near future just feels too disconnected from reality for me to care WWII setting is miles more immersive.
>>336301060
They have no actual interest in the games, they just want to complain about CoD and bathe in nostalgia
>>336295619
>Black Ops 2 is hardly futuristic
Oh please, it's futuristic even at first glance and at it's core.
>>336299281
zelda actually changes over time, at least use mario or pokemon if you want to shit on everyone
>>336293916
normies dont like the future and robots for some reason
>>336293916
EVERY year a new cod trailer comes out, people actually start defending it and try building up hype, but then once the game gets released it ALWAYS turns out to be the same exact shit
And it keeps happening every single year, jesus fucking christ
>>336301673
ghosts and blops2 were basically modern warfare. if i should you mutliplayer gameplay from them and you had never seen the game before, you'd think they were just regular modern warfare shooters.
>>336302123
we have drones in real life
>>336299212
I played through BO1 recently. I actually forgot that song played at one time during the game. It was pretty subtle.
Self-important nerds on the internet feel like they're on a crusade against a videogame they dislike.
>>336298971
>you can do anything
>>336302079
Is it nostalgia tho? See the old games created a spike, the new ones are fucking up
>>336298971
>Boots on ground
Stop using that fucking phrase
>>336297826
It is hardly a WWII game and has meh shooting mechanics. Relatively speaking, it is much better than the market's average offer though.
>>336302123
it takes place 9 years in the future, bo3 takes place 50 years in the future.
>>336302123
>helments that we have in real life
>a gun that we have in real life (xm8)
>drones that we have in real life
lmao. black ops 2 is like 99.9999% contemporary. there are very few guns or things you can pick for your loadout that aren't just normal stuff.
>>336302335
now put black ops 3 on that chart and tell me what you see
>>336298971
I almost believed all of that and got hyped till
>No Loading screen
That's a load of shit, unless they somehow spent the last 3 years learning tne hardware %200, it ain't happening
>>336302123
>rifle shown was an irl prototype that was even in fucking bfbc2
>you can literally buy mq-27 dragonfires right now off of amazon
fug off
it was basically modern warfare+
>it's in space now
>have to get special edition of infinite warfare if you want cod4 remake
>>336302365
Yeah it's annoying, because both BO3 and AW were boots on the ground, if you just apply logic to what it means.
>>336298971
I want this to be true.
AlsoI actually liked the cover of Space Oddity
>>336296612
>Cod's best games were [...] MW2
Shoot your fucking self.
>>336302270
Don't be an Activision apologist, the forced futuristic direction is blatantly clear, few people asked for it, many complain about it and yet we get so many games, that's why I think it's sales related.
>>336298182
>There's just nowhere to take a historical WW2 game.
China? Spain? Talvisota? Partisan warfare with squad management and Mass effect style character interaction sans openworld? Saboteur done in less campy way? That's just from the top of my head.
>>336301748
I mean an actual, proper Cold War shooter, not the stupid bullshit that was MW2/3. I suppose it'd be somewhat like BO1, but without the spy and supervillain shit. Admittedly the average CoD normie isn't going to see any difference.
>>336302368
Tbh the art design, themes and storyline carried it.
I mean double shotguns is fun as fuck but there's a better games out there mechanically.
COD4 remastered looks amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwfKj71SQ7Q
>>336302503
No Mans Sky has no loading screen
>>336298182
look at what they did with world at war. objectively a run-of-the-mill WW2 game, yet extremely memorable
>They still haven't done a Vietnam standalone game
>They scrapped it
At Least I still have Tripwire
>>336298573
Grow a pair and play at least Vietcong, faggot.
>>336302498
They didn't release sales numbers for that game
>>336302735
its not futuristic if they're used by modern militaries and get that "WE" shit out of here
>>336294654
>Dark Souls series
>>336302894
Please stop with the Vietnam meme. They tried it with the BC2 Expansion and it was the worst thing ever in the series.
>>336302941
http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/11/9715060/call-of-duty-black-ops-3-sales-advanced-warfare-ghosts
>>336303010
Vietnam was better than the base game
>>336302617
I don't know why you're so afraid to admit it was futuristic
>>336296334
>It's Halo but more scripted and lifeless.
I would seriously rather play MW3/Ghosts than Halo 4/5.
If Infinity Ward is cancer, 343i is pure cock-rotting AIDS.
>>336303118
i mean it was, but just barely
>>336299212
>like Korea
The only part about it which was interesting or different from WW2 is for flight sims exclusively.
getting in on that space sim hype, are they?
>>336302040
CoD hasn't been immersive since United offensive. At least in the original game and it's expansion, There was punishment for getting hit, and your AI companions actually did shit. I played it again recently to see how well it held up to nostalgia, and aside from the missions being boring simply for being WW2 shit I've already done a million times, it was, gameplay wise, far and away much better than the games that followed.
There's no immersion regardless of setting because they make war games that have no fucking balls. How the fuck are you supposed to get immersed when there's no tension, or no fear of imminent death, or feeling like you're a pawn in a much larger force? CoD shit on itself because it chipped away at the things it was originally about: Being an expendable peon.
All this 'one man army' shit was at least toned down slightly in the original. Slightly. But all the games that followed from 2 onwards fully embraced being an unstoppable death machine.
>>336303010
BC2 Vietnam was good though. The problem was the way BC played. If you expected them to rework the gameplay for an expansion you might be retarded.
>>336303092
Seems like some PR statistic tweaking bullshit,
>sales over the three-day launch window "rose significantly over the previous two years," but the company did not provide any actual figures for the number of copies
Every other CoD had the actual numbers released, why not this one? There is a clear and obvious reason, from a PR perspective...
>>336299456
Really, only 3 of them were modern, MW1, MW2, and MW3. Even MW3 was bordering on futuristic.
There's now 5 futuristic CoDs; Black Ops 2, Ghosts, Advanced Warfare, Black Ops 3, and now Infinite Warfare.
>>336302734
The numbers don't lie, MW2 had the most fans as seen by MW3's series sales peak
>>336299237
Meem majik
>>336303429
it had the support of treyarch cock suckers and they hyped it up as the second coming of Jesus
>>336296071
>COD 4
>World at War
>the entire Black Ops series, 2 especially with 3 being equally notable
at least play the games before shitting on them
>>336303594
cod 4 and WaW had the only campaigns that I liked
>>336302587
FEEL IT
FEEL IT
>>336303010
>They tried it with the BC2 Expansion and it was the worst thing ever in the series.
What the hell? Die.
>>336302883
The only thing 'memorable' about it is it's a CoD game with limb-loss and a slightly darker tone. They didn't have the balls to go the whole nine yards with it, and they actually went backwards and never kept that shit up for all the following games.
They pussied out and stayed on the 'hollywood war' route where everything is neat and pretty and everyone just ragdolls after being shot or hit by an explosion.
The only multiplayer game that even remotely tried to be 'realistic' about war violence is Red Orchestra 2, and even they toned it down in Rising Storm anyway.As someone that's actually been in combat, realistic violence is actually pretty fucking horrifying compared to how it's portrayed in movies and games. No one would buy something that shows how people actually die.
>>336303568
I'm sorry? Who is majik?
>>336302802
Yeah, you are right.
Also, it is sad that Wolfenstein 2009 is all but forgotten. It suffered from the meme sandbox with zero purpose attached to it, but otherwise it was a fucking great shooter game.
>>336302949
I could give you a list of the future tech in BO2 that is made up and not used by modern militaries, if you want
>>336303826
do it but they have to be mass produced
>>336303695
>>336303117
>>336303398
Kill yourselves memers.
>hiiiiigh way to hell! XD
>>336303594
My only foray into cod has been black ops 2 and 3 and those campaigns bored the shirt out of me. I i made this post and it's so true >>336296330. COD campaigns are boring and for boring people.
>>336302503
Theres ways to get around loading screens
>>336303909
Thanks Shitpost king
>4.11.16
wait, it came out already?
>>336304274
Yeah dude where the fuck have you been?
>>336304274
Weak bait
>>336303826
the magic sensor grenades that no one uses because they got nerfed
the Millimeter Scanner scope that no one uses because it got nerfed to hell and back (Also, those scanners actually are real in real life, just not used on guns)
the VTOL warship that you'd only see someone earn once a month because it was hard to get any of the big scorestreaks in that game and bsides the vtol is just a reskinned Osprey anyway
wow three things that you barely ever saw anyone use and they're barely futuristic anyway.
just face it you dudebro cucks. bops 2 is 99.99999% modern warfare.
>>336303331
>CoD hasn't been immersive since United offensive.
I was talking about my own taste and setting in general, but you are right. It was also an amazing game (though i still prefer MoH:AA addons for my singleplayer WWII fix).
>CoD shit on itself because it chipped away at the things it was originally about: Being an expendable peon.
God, THIS. MW1 worked because it was a welcome change of setting, but it also started the trend of squad of unstoppable, unkillable RAMIREZES.
>>336295660
>We just want another MW2. Some more creative innovation within the modern setting, and that game had plenty.
Could you imagine what would happen if the airport level was released today? I know it caused quite a controversy, but C'MON, IT'S LE CURRENT YEAR!
>>336304452
CoD 1-4 are legit good games.
>>336299782
The Zombies timeline is separate from the Black Ops timeline you mong
I hope it's more like AW. Blops3 was pure AIDS, worse in every way, movement most of all. Went from having the best movement in any FPS in the last decade, to right back to the same fucking garbage. Biggest waste of 60 dollars ever.
>>336297941
Underrated post
>>336304683
who.....sauce
>>336295181
> NHL fagstormbazillion
I want the online of cod3 with the maps of cod4 and the colors of cod2.
They will get it right eventually
>>336295648
The 2 you mentioned.
>>336297578
>How many fucking times can we do...D-Day...?
Wasn't the only D-Day level in CoD 3? I could be wrong, but that's what I remember.
>>336305054
>Liking 3DPD
>>336293916
EA is in full black pr mode, plus the group who REALLY want a new WW2 shooter are in full public manipulation mode.
That and there are no interesting enemies and NO ONE gives a shit about david bowie.
Should have just gone with dirty cybernetics enhanced turrists with cray looking exoskeletons and robotics and used dubstep or 90's club hiphop or rapcore.
>>336293916
shitty space oddity cover
>>336300797
Seriously this
Go back to 2007 and see how each game differentiated itself from each other
>>336304646
1) that's some background noise from the singleplayer, only weirdos play the single player for these games the singleplayer is utterly boring no one plays cod or remembers cod for the scriptathons that are the campaigns
2) we have walking robo donkey dones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Jh2CAYnOo
putting a gun on a robo donkey drone is not my idea of scifi. it's also a weak point because you guys are all maintaining that black ops 2 is some sort of crazy futuristic game that is just too far fetched to fit into what you perceive call of duty's "boots on the ground" gameplay should be but your robo donkey drone isn't far fetched at all and fits into what im saying that black ops 2 is 99.99999999999999999% contemporary stuff. ffs some of you were saying that call of duty is so futuristic now that it's halo but the most futuristic thing you can find is a robot donkey that walks in the background while you shoot European terrorists with an m4 carbine.
>>336304436
Does it matter if no one uses it? It's in the fucking game isn't it? lol
Also
>target finder
>shock charges
>hacker kit
>hunter killers
Not to mention the campaign with
>cloaking device
>access kit shit
Most of the factions are made up, many weapons are "realistic" but completely made up. Sorry but your 99.999% military game was in fact directed towards a younger audience.
https://www.commonsensemedia.org/game-reviews/call-of-duty-black-ops-ii/user-reviews/adult
>>336299162
>>336299290
>>336299389
>>336299470
>>336299762
>>336299971
>>336301923
>shoehorned vehicle sections
People will hate it just like they hated the batmobile in arkham knight.
>but muh seamless
Yeah right. There will be points in the game where you are forced to use it whether you like it or not. Screen cap this post
>>336294459
Not "realistic". Call of Duty emphasised "realism" in the first entry. Now it's labeled itself as an arcade, CUHRAZY FPS worth only the multiplayer. Lord knows what Infinity Ward will do to this game after the shitfest that was Ghosts.
I just want a game without jump-boosting and wall-running bullshit.
>>336305690
it doesn't even matter if it's gonna be shoehorned or not or seamless or not. it's the same on-rails jet mission boring campaign crap we've seen a million times in recent cods.
Please please please tell me there's gonna be multiplayer modes where we get to dogfight
that's the selling point for me
>>336298182
I, at no point, have ever heard a single solitary person in the real world, at my local gamestores, the game sections of sprawlmart or online that I knew of EVER say they wanted to play a WW2 FPS. Not once.
Not ever.
Only in threads like this does anyone even entertain the thoughts of it.
And they are always blown out by the rest of the thread.
>>336305771
you're wrong. black ops 3 is litreally the only game in the entire game that tries to be arcadei and silly and fun. blops 2 took itself seriously and ghosts took itself way too seriously. you're complaining about a "trend" of semi-silliness in one game.
>>336303697
>spoiler
Elaborate? If I go into game development I'd like to take ideas from actual war vets
>>336294459
FIVE
I
V
E
Years of shitty futuristic shooters. People whined when we had 5 consecutive years of WWII. They need to change it up, it's getting stale
>>336305331
Four CoD games depicted the Normandy landings: CoD1, CoD2, Roads to Victory, and Big Red One.
>>336298971
>>336299290
That sounds awesome, but unless they've found a way to work that into the multiplayer, I'm not gonna bite. Every Call of Duty campaign since Modern Warfare has been 6-7 hours long. That's not enough to satisfy my spaceship/aircraft boner.
>>336305989
>Five years of shitty futuristic shooters
Besides Blops 3 and Advanced Warfare, name some.
That also totally ignores the fact that futuristic shit allows for more fun shit like Reapers.
>>336297826
Doesn't /v/ hate The New Order?
/v/ and 4chan hate winners
cod is a successful video game franchise
The majority of the haters are losers in real life
>>336305609
>a game needs to have a realistic setting in order to be mature
>>336305906
>even expecting that
What is wrong with you, take a look at the last iterations
>>336306171
Only tryhard arena shooter faggots. It's one of if not the best FPS to come out in years.
>>336306201
But are you winners forever?
>>336306201
>myfirstposton4chan.jpg
Call of Duty 13: Modern Warfare 5: Advanced Warfare 2: Infinite Warfare
>>336306119
Blops 2
Blops 3
AW
Ghosts (Kinda, was more near future but not modern)
Incoming Infinity Warfare or whatever
>>336306119
you don't get it! ghosts had a mention of a scifi thing in the shitty campaign that one one plays and Blops 2 had a shock charge you could throw so that means cod these games are practically star wars and totally not just regular contemporary warfare games!
Why aren't there any COD games set in the Great War?
>>336300183
Why are the mean ones always the cutest?
>>336306328
No but, realism implies it being a mature game, because it's a different target audience
>>336305952
>blops 2 took itself seriously
Well, there was theAvenged Sevenfoldeaster egg after the game's credits.
>/v/ hates COD for "rehashing"
>meanwhile loves the dark souls series
L O L
>>336306570
Can you stop being a retard please? No one considers CoD a contemporary shooter any more because of said games. You can compare the modern Battlefields to the Modern Warfare series but none of the others.
>>336306816
/v/ apparently doesn't hate cod for rehashing because after 2 scifi cods they already want to go back to modern warfare cods we got for 8 games in a row.
>>336306846
>2 jetpack games undid everything from cod4 through ghosts
i dont think so
>>336306532
Blops 2 counts too I guess.
It's not like we're being inundated with chinese knockoffs of the near future CoDs though. That alone makes these better for me. Variety is the spice of life. Let Battlefield tackle a different era if they wantI won't buy their buggy shit games anyways.
>>336304683
>>336305331
>>336306685
can someone just give this guy the bish's name?
>>336294459
Cause
>MUH AMERICA
is more appealing than
>MUH PLANET EARTH
>>336294459
>>336293916
because s-f is for fucking nerds
you wanna be a nerd?
>>336306478
the truth hurts
>>336307043
Yes, and let CoD go back to being CoD. Not some bastardized Jetpack hybrid garbage.
>>336307023
>future isnt bad guise
>theres just 2 of them shut up
>>336307089
no u
>>336297624
AW is probably my favorite since MW2. The speed and freedom of movement is nice and almost UT-like.
>>336307307
They'll never get rid of the jetpack because it's added gameplay, it adds an extra axis to moving and allows for verticality in level design. Getting rid of jetpacks means returning to less complicated movements and less complicated levels.
>>336307394
i dont know it dipshit
>CoD 4 wont be sold separately
WHAT
THEN HOW WILL YOU GATHER ENOUGH
PEOPLE TO PLAY ONLINE YOU RETARDS
DOES ACTIVISION THINK EVERYONE IS WILLING TO PAY 80 FOR A REMASTER
DID YOU FAGGOTS EVEN THINK THIS THROUGH
ASDJKLFJKSALDJLAKSJD
>>336298483
Shattered Horizon was kinda neat. Too bad it died faster than Evolve.
>>336298182
>>336298382
>There's just nowhere to take a historical WW2 game.
>Alternative timelines?
>Side switching?
>Aspect switching?
>Alternate technology progression timelines?
All of this and more, I love to think about this shit, videogames have the potential for exploring all sorts of alternate history and make believe scenarios and making them fun, but the instant you propose that on /v/ you get memed on by these people > autists would freak out because it's different from their universe's logical technology progression
Muh historical accuracy, muh realism autists.
To these people they don't care that the scenario provided like pic related is something entirely refreshing and new to the stale wasteland of AAA WWII games, or games in general. Their inner historical accuracy autist screams out in terror and lashes against such a scenario for it being entirely unrealistic on many accounts (which is true but that doesn't mean it wouldn't make a fun game given the right execution).
I just have ideas though, no idea how to bring about that execution.
>>336293916
Nobody wants another scifi shooter, they're boring as fuck.
>OOooo black space and planets n shit with a crapload of bloom this sure is exciting! I think..
>>336307307
before AW
>this game is so fucking slow
>stupid brown and bloom modern dumbass cover shooting
>when will old school arena shooters come back so I can GO FAST
after AW
>CoD is too fucking fast!
>when will they slow everything down?
>fuck sci fi! I wanna be a hardcore tacticool operator
>>336307495
Nah I think they'll remove it eventually, depending on how this one does (If it even has them). PlusPeople who play competitive CoD aren't huge Fans of it
But microtransactions might kill the game way before jetpacks do
>>336293916
>all that space shit looks like one single on-rails mission starting with a turret section in the "spaceship"
>$40 for a 9 year old game
>with only 10 MP maps
>they are going to sell DLC map packs to a decade old game because they know their audience are nothing but shit-guzzling retards at this point
I could not be less interested. Though I am amazed by their gypping tactics.
>>336307528
>THEN HOW WILL YOU GATHER ENOUGH
>PEOPLE TO PLAY ONLINE YOU RETARDS
lol. they never care about longevity. the game only needs to survive 1 year so that the next cod game can be released. you say "no way, i bought Infinite Warfare, Modern Warfare Remastered, and the Infinite Warfare Season pass, I'll never buy the new cod so early! I wanna play this for years!" but you won't. Because all of those games will become deader than dead after 1 year because Advanced Warfare 2 will be coming out, with the Advanced Warfare Season pass, and a bonus of World at War:Remastered and everyone jumps ship. Cod games have a very short shelf life. One year on the mark. After that one year, most people stop playing and the dev complete drops support. No cod game has ever gotten a patch after the last DLC was released.
>>336307265
goty
>>336307495
Its more complicated on a surface level but not in the gameplay, because you remove an entire play strategy (camping, posting up) and replace it with everyone moving in 18 fucking directions at all times. Imho it made the game mores simple.
>>336307606
Also forgot to say what is it
>WWII FPS where Japan invades Australia and you fight as an ANZAC soldier to repel their invasion, or get pushed back to New Zealand.
On the other side is resistance forces in Montana, fighting against Nazi and Japanese occupiers, think Saboteur mixed with Half Life 2.
And for fun there would be campaigns for both good and bad guys. With multiple unique endings. You can take it anywhere you want and aren't constricted to history.
The new German boss fight will be a Maus or E-100 instead of a Tiger tank.
>>336307720
Who are you quoting, because it's certainly not me
Cod should be Cod, Arena shooters should be Arena Shooters. What we get when we mix them is some kind of disgusting monstrosity like Advanced Warfare
>>336307606
People caring too much about realism is exactly why people are REEEEEing over a grand total of two, soon to be three futuristic games after thrice as many modern and WW2 games.
The realism in vidya meme has gone too far
>>336307834
>like one single on-rails mission
Read the thread
>>336294647
Well... Yeah.
If people want Space Marine shit they play Halo or Titanfall. People liked COD for being more down to earth military games. That's why people have been baiting on the newer sci-fi stuff.
>>336307857
I disagree. The advanced movements increased the skill ceiling and allow for added gameplay that could never happen in a simpler Cod
https://gfycat.com
/CompassionateMedicalFairyfly
>>336307971
Couldn't find whatever post you were trying to get me to check, can you link to it?
Man, how do they manage to make awesome sci-fi spaces battles look so... generic and boring? It really does seem like the same basic stuff as before, except with lasers. At least I can hope for future space robot Kevin Spacey!
>>336294654
Halo series
Zelda series
Mario series
Dark Souls/Demon Souls/Bloodborne
Resident Evil series
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
>>336294654
Ask Sony or Nintendo
>>336308305
Because they haven't changed the engine since like CoD 4. Every game plays and handles exactly the same. Even the "Vehicles" are just cameras.
>>336307930
>Soon to be four with AW2
>Soon to be five with Blops 4
When does this shit end? It's already been 5 years since the last Modern Warfare title which were the most successful and loved games in the series
>>336294647
They want it because modern era shit is easier to relate to. They think scifi is for gay nerds.
>>336294654
>HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU PLAY THE SAME FUCKING GAME
Idk. How many times can you play Mario or Zelda or Pokemon or Uncharted or Civilization or Battlefield or
>>336308205
Read the fucking thread you lazy piece of shit. Let spoonfeed you like the retard you are. >>336298971
>>336304683
>>336305331
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS U KIKES
Because it's shit
>Why does the trailer have so many dislikes?
Three reasons
1) Dudebros. People who buy COD balk at scifi. Even though Cod's scifi is basically just "a few years in the future" and the devs make it as gritty and tacticool as they can, dudebros just want to walk around and be a US marine who fights terrorists.
2) People who see past the scripted bullshit and notice that it's just the same COD we've all already played. As I was watching it I almost felt as if I were playing it. I could see the rehashed animations, I could feel like what the gunplay is like, I could feel myself playing the "it literally plays itself" fighter jet gameplay that was in the previous few CODs.
3) It's just a really poorly made trailer. The editing is weird, the song choice was weird, it just doesn't make the product look very enticing.
>GOAT
CoD4
CoD2
>Good
BO2
BO1
WaW
>Trash
Every other game
>everyone shitting on it when we have no information.
I just want try FPS portion of Star Citizen.
>>336296431
"Call of duty" could "aalllmmosstt" be used to describe a genre of fps games wherein some are a part of a contuing story and other games are stand alone
>>336308819
>every cod for the past 10 years may have played identically but you have seen gameplay yet so don't you dare assume that this one is as similar as all of the other ones. 10 years is not enough time to notice a trend!
>>336307930
Yeah I have no problems with games getting unrealistic as fuck thats why I like futuristic shooters and aren't tired of them at all, but I never played the COD futuristic shooters and likely won't play this new one because I just dislike COD's stale gameplay, the same engine, the same set piece scenarios, no major improvements on that front but the ideas are creative I'll give them that.
Likewise I really don't want the industry to return to WWII games because we just know we're going to get (like >>336297578
said >same normandy/stalingrad/kursk/berlin/tiger/garand/mosin sniper/FOR DA MOTHERLAND bullshit over and over with no room for creativity,)
Meanwhile at least with near future or alternate history games theres a lot more room for creativity. It's also why I love the current setting BF4 is in, with near future WW3 scenario, and I hope BF5 stays with that instead of going back to WWII or WWI, only the setting and theme is good but like COD the execution is shit with the casualization of the game since BF2, but the setting makes playing it worthwhile because I love that shit.
What I want to see in BF5 (apart from mod/map tools for players to unleash their creative ideas for this setting) is combat with near future European forces (like BF4) on European maps, maybe even against someone other than Russia, like Turkey idk. And I want to see the US Marines returning to fight China alongside JSDF on those artificial islands of theirs, mimicking the island hopping campaigns of WWII.
There is so much potential and diversity of gameplay there with those settings alone.
Historical realism needs to be a second thought in favor of fun and creative gameplay. Alternate history WWII games would be a blast but I know with this risk averse industry we are not seeing that, we're going to get fucking Normandy and Kursk and North Africa again if the industry returns to WWII shooters.
>>336303465
Black Ops 2 was probably the most "realistic" using mostly real weapons in the multiplayer while also having 80's flashback missions.
>>336303909
>>336303695
>>336303398
>>336303010
BC2 Vietnam was shit and not even the first attempt at a vietnam era BF nor the best one.
Fucking underage.
>>336307035
It'll totally have the better trailer. For some reason I forsee Planetside 2 shilling going into overdrive in response to 2143.
Because people are fucking idiots.
I think Call of Duty has its place as the mindless run n' gun shooter, it's not something with an amazingly high skill ceiling but it doesn't need to be.
It's the generic action flick of video games, you can jump in and see big explosions and then stop playing whenever. I think simple mindless fun is an underrated concept and it's silly that a lot of people frown upon it.
>>336309082
Everyone knows that game exists you special snowflake
>>336307035
>literally the same bantz they had 5 years ago
boring
If they wanted future warfare, they could have gone full Destiny like future. Planets, FTL travel, aliens. Interstellar travel is the shit nowadays.
>>336308958
>Alternate history WWII games
One example of one I really want to see which we NEVER FUCKING GOT is an Operation Sea Lion game
>inb4 all the MUH HISTORICAL ACCURACY autists come crawling out of the woodwork to complain how the operation itself would never have happened even if the perfect conditions for Germany like Britain's Air Force being wiped out were met
I DON'T CARE
I DON'T CARE FOR YOUR HISTORICAL REALISM AUTISM
I want to defend Dover against a horde of German troops coming by land and sea, and pull back to London for the final last stand when all the German forces on the coast link up and push the attack.
And I want a game that lets you play both the British and German side with unique endings for both, victory and defeat possible. With a prologue level on the beaches of Dunkirk where the rescue can fail and that raises your chances of the Invasion succeeding when you play as a German paratrooper invading Dover.
Give me WWII games like this or don't give us WWII games at all.
>>336309242
>I think simple mindless fun is an underrated concept and it's silly that a lot of people frown upon it.
It's amazingly retarded how many people here would disagree with this.
>>336307035
Smedberg deleted his tweets
>>336308654
Comparing BF1942/Vietnam, BF2/2142, Bad Company 1/2 or BF 3/4 is not going to yield much similarities other than fundamental shit like having mixed combat.
cod's really stale. i dont get how changing the backdrop is going to make the gameplay any fresher.
>>336294459
Because this particular franchise manages to take the concept of a futuristic shooter and suck all the fun out of it by making it feel as boring and bland as the modern military shooter setting.
>>336307035
Yeah I'm sure it'll blow me away just like they did a few years ago with the censored version of 99 Problems, man what a cool commercial that was.
If they have a better trailer it will only be because of the incompetence displayed by whoever put together this COD trailer. They're first place in the Special Olympics.
>>336307842
this. I'm also curious as to when they'll quit the yearly bullshit...probably never.
>>336309379
that's too far for CoD. they can't just have it be complete sci-fi/fantasy. this is about as far as they can go with future warfare and not have it be like mass effect or halo
>>336309656
speak for yourself. i fucking love AW and BO3
>>336303331
>Being an expendable peon.
There needs to be a WWI or WWII game that fully makes you understand this and therefore the sheer scope of the slaughter of the war where hundreds died in battles everyday.
A game where your death matters, you don't respawn back at a checkpoint but instead take the role of the nearest person next to you, and his weapons and gear, until he dies too, and your whole squad is wiped out before you know it and you respawn in another squad where the objective of the last squad failed so now more Germans will be coming your way and the mission gets harder.
I'd prefer something like that to the stale way that missions are done these days in COD and Battlefield.
>that buttrock version of space oddity
tasteless exploitation of an artist's death, executed in an equally tasteless manner
>>336307035
>3 and a half minutes of CG
>Anyone got a link which shows the game?
I agree with this. You can't ever tell what is going to be notable gameplay and what isn't. At least with Battlefield games, if it shows first person footage from inside a cockpit, you know you're gonna be able to fly something. If Call of Duty does it, you don't know if that's going to be something you can do in any game mode, or if it's just going to be single player only and/or one single on-rails segment that you never see again anywhere else in the game
Looking forward to pirating this and the CoD4 remake. CoD is space sounds cool.
>>336303697
>toned it down in Rising Storm
If anything it turned up the gore and sobbing.
>>336309752
Lets look at history tho
>Black Ops II revealed
>that's too far! they can't just have it be complete future!
:^)
>>336307035
The game's probably gonna be shit but damn if that trailer didn't get my hyped, I don't think the BF5 one will compare
To Be Honest they're probably gonna win over all the hipster fuccbois that want a world war 2 game, further reinforcing the retarded superiority complex the BF community has for some reason
>>336310101
cods entire gameplay is chest high walls and aiming down the sight of am m16 through a red dot sight. every game from codf4 to blops 3 provides this. the future game will too. they'll never change the gameplay enough that it won't be this because then it's an entirely new product.
>>336310006
I can't wait to hear sobbing Zips as I mow them down with an M60 in RS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f96p-IhcZhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQHON4gVSQ0
posting this so i can watch it without signing in
>>336310245
or maybe battlefield 4 is a good game whereas every cod since cod4 has sucked ass. cod is literally just a less complicated battlefield with less stuff to do, less players to shoot, and less things to do. both games share nearly identical gunplay, but cod is stuffed into small maps with 12 people and no vehicles or strategies or destructible environments.
>>336309454
It's amazingly retarded how you don't understand that people have different opinions than you. I don't find Michael Bay movies or COD fun in any way. Me shit talking them online doesn't mean I frown on simple, mindless fun.
>>336310245
>they're probably gonna win over all the hipster fuccbois that want a world war 2 game
I fucking wish. Its so obvious that its gonna be a 2143 reboot.
>>336308958
Where's my goddamn Italy? I wanna shoot people in a place with pretty architecture.
>>336310460
As opposed to desolate wastelands and 31 lonewolves on your team doing jack shit.
>>336299212
>he hates ccr
>>336310245
The game is gonna be a 2143 reboot. All the hints in BF4. Plus describing a coalition that was in 2143. I don't know where this WWI/WWII Idea came form
>>336294564
So you can't buy this game by itself?
>>336298182
>There's just nowhere to take a historical WW2 game.
There is but it requires more than copying off movies and TV shows about WWII like most AAA devs did.
>British commando raids in Norway
>British commando raids in Northern France
>Raid on St. Nazaire docks
>British SAS in North Africa
>Aleutian Islands campaign
>Dieppe Landings
>Attack on Mers-el-Kébir where you command a Royal Navy Battleship
>Royal Navy in the Mediterranean theater in general
>Crete Convoy defense
>Defense/Assault on Malta
>Assault on Sicily
>Italian theater in general
>North African landings and playing as the first US forces in Europe
>Operation Market Garden from multiple perspectives
That's just off the top of my head, and that's only Europe, and that's only historically accurate settings. We can go alternate history with Operation Sea Lion and such as well if we wanted.
There's plenty of potential and material remaining but no one wants to do it.
Even better a game that includes these things but from both perspectives and with multiple roles to play, from infantry, tank commander, naval captain, fighter pilot, to give you a unique perspective on the war.
Kinda like Battlefield 1942 and FH:SW, but better.
>>336310626
Except you're rarely alone and there's always people running around. Battlefield maps are big but they're not THAT big. The maps back in the 1942/Vietnam/2 days were much much larger. But you only know COD so you don't know what you're talking about anyway.
>>336310713
>I don't know where this WWI/WWII Idea came form
Rumors created by chucklefucks on /v/. Before the official reveal of Black Ops 3, someone was creating rumors of World at War II
>>336310973
They're not going to do a World at War 2 yet because next year they'll probably do a World at War:Remastered to help sell Advanced Warfare 2.
>>336310967
Battlefield is trash, m8. The only reason is to play the games are for the mods like Forgotten Hope for BF1942 and Project Reality for BF2. As I played FH, I realized how trash vanilla 1942 was and never went back playing it.
>>336310973
BF usually goes in line with CoD
>CoD Does Vietnam in BO1
>BF does Vietnam the same year with BC2 Add on
>CoD does modern
>BF Does modern
>CoD goes future
BF will most definitely go future.
>>336310489
It means you're an idiot for ignoring the depth that is there. Saying CoD is mindless is like me saying Miyazaki's films are just shitty anime. Technically I'm right, but the people who know the shit better than me disagree
>>336311464
If BF does future it will most definitely have more depth than COD's dull interpretation
call of duty 6 when?
>>336311464
>>BF does Vietnam the same year
BF did Vietnam way before COD with BF Vietnam though.
But you're right in that ever since BF3, BF has been trying to compete with COD, EA's president outright said it then that BF3 will compete with COD, and that's when BF's and DICE's decline to the shitter began and hasn't stopped since.
>>336311614
After BF 4 and Hardline? Don't count on it
>>336311302
Lol, I remember my first week on Battlefield 4. It gets so much better dude, soooo much better.
>>336311741
Hardline was shit, I'm hoping they learn from that, but what was wrong with BF4?
>>336311786
Yeah no. BF is CoD with semi destructible environments. Especially with the introductions of maps like Operation locker and Metro
>>336310973
that's an odd rumor considering WaW was developed by Treyarch and not IW.
>>336310713
>>336310973
Word is Battlefield 5 is going to be WWI
>>336312007
Haha, it's fine that you think that, but you're kinda the only one
>>336307035
>Smedberg
>berg
EVERY TIME
>>336312198
It's going to be 2142 2. No matter what setting the surely the campaign won't be as awful as 4. Really wish they'd stop making campaigns. It has to be obvious by now that absolutely no one likes them or beats them.
>>336311786
>Implying I bought BF4
>tfw infinity ward redeemed themselves by putting their fucking heart and soul into this game and trailer
>they still get shat on for it
fuck you guys, this actually looks incredible
>>336293916
>that shitty fucking cover of Space Oddity
>>336312728
>flashbang grenade blows apart the wall like it's made out of balsa wood
Which game was more sci-fi, Ghosts or BF4?
>>336312898
do you know what they make american houses out of?
>>336313116
BF4 is not scifi.
>>336302149
All the 3D Mario's are pretty different
>>336313191
Plaster, but it's still far more durable than whatever they made that house out of. You don't see entire walls being destroyed when the police use one of those grenades in real life, do you?
>>336313191
That's why we have more space, we make fucktardedly weak walls instead.
>>336313191
do you know what flashbangs are made out of
>>336313116
BF4 if you include Final Stand.
>>336313395
you can literally blow up exterior walls with a hard pee.
>>336298971
They should just make a seperate game for that shit. There's no way it's going to be more than just shallow bullshit.
>>336313116
neither are very sci fi.
base game: ghosts. it has some small scifi attachments and shit that you can use
DLC packs: bf4. some of the dlc levels have shoutouts to Battlefield 2142, so like one map literally has a hover tank that you can drive.
>>336313535
>literally
as opposed to figuratively?
So how long till COD4 remaster will be stand alone?
>>336314209
never going to happen
I like CoD games, they're simple and I can play them while listening to music and hanging out. But i'm bored of them now, the only reason I bought the last one is Based Meloni.
What setting would save this franchise?
>>336314340
fantasy with spells and shit but in space
>>336314340
Treyarch making a solo zombie game.
Even people who hate CoD to be cool love CoD Zombies.
>>336312602
Well 2142 was good and felt different enough in my mind for it to stand out from the boat load of other fulturistic shooters.
>>336296172
Glad you posted this at is solidifies my response to this thread.
What most of you people fail to realize is that a lot of people are not completely obsessed with gayming. Not everyone spends their entire waking moment playing le gaymes, as some of you do. Many don't know 'there are so many futuristic games hur change it up dur'. I haven't played call of duty since mw2. Just saw the trailer and it def has my interest. This board has an unhealthy habit on shiting on everything (with the exception of Nintendo). Nothing is ever good. I submit to you this, get out the house and do something- anything that isnt gayming related. Playing video games shouldn't be something that consumes you, revolve your life around it.
>split a wildly successful franchise between two developers
>figure they're going to compete with one another and push the limits of this franchise every year
>instead they do the same shit as the other does with a little twist every year
>the board is happy with profits and praise you for your decision
>you didn't want this at all
>you wanted to force them to one-up each other every year
>to make this franchise better, better than it could have ever been in the hands of one developer
>what have you done
