>dragon jumps and uses fire
>I die
>I run from fire
>fire is five times faster than me
>okay I'll run when he flies
>half the time my character just refuses to run
>camera won't stay on him
>my character just refuses to look at the boss I guess
>sometimes I roll the opposite way I'm moving
>can't get used to nameless king moveset
>his dragon can just kill me whenever it wants to
>will do so 9/10 times
>use shield with decent fire defense
>actual boss' attacks do 1/5 of my health while blocking
Fuck this boss. This is legitimately cheap. The dragon should be tougher but stay dead.
I'm seriously considering summoning for this boss, because I stopped giving a fuck about this long ago.
I died twice as many times to deacons as I did to nameless. How does this make you feel?
>>336276559
>fire breath attack
don't try to stay under him, it's a counter mechanic, he won't normally do it
>camera
yeah the camera is a bit wonky in this fight, I recommend no lock on for this fight
>blocking
dodge
>>336276559
I'm retarded and I learned to beat him. You have no excuse. Just learn the patterns
>>336276865
But that's impossible. They deal no fucking damage.
>>336276865
it makes me feel weird anon
>>336276559
1. Don't go under him. His legs take shit all damage and it fucks your camera as well as triggering his fire attack.
2. Stay in front of him and back a bit. The camera will fuck up much less, except for a few swings if you end up flipping it. Also his attacks become far easier to dodge.
3. Either learn to dodge his attacks or get a really good lightning resist shield. Lothric knight shield has like 85% lightning resist, 97% if you lightning imbue it.
I beat him both with an estoc (First playthrough on the japanese version, before it was the meta) and a great club on another.
>>336276865
If you don't attack and let dorito pope do his thing then the deacons becomes the most horrifying boss in souls history
>>336276865
>Deacons as a low level mage
It was at that moment I realized I had made a horrible mistake. Good thing I had a broadsword on hand
>>336277628
>mage
>ever
Why. Magic has sucked since before scholar.
>>336276559
What's this faggot's gimmick? My summon was doing like 400 damage to him meanwhile i was doing like 30.
OP whenever the Dragon lands he opens his mouth for a second, hit his open mouth and you set him up for a visceral
>>336277801
Depends on what you're using. I know he's highly resistant to fire, and doesn't really have any other elemental weaknesses.
>>336276559
Bait his dragons rush attack/flame breath, don't stay under him, stay facing him and when he comes you roll, if he starts breathing fire you run and roll to his side and start hacking away, its easy anon, you can do it.
>>336276559
>beat pontiff 4th try
>beat dancer 1st try
>beat nameless king 5th try
>beat final boss 1st try
The fuck you assholes. This was one of the easiest Soul games ever. The biggest boogiemans in Souls 3 are casual level compared to False King or even Manus
the dragon is LITERALLY the easiest boss in the game
just stand before him and attack his head when you got the chance. he will only do the fier attack when you stand underh is body
it actually takes me around 40 to 60 seconds to beat the dragon every time
>>336277734
I didn't think it would be this bad. That being said, this was probably the only mob boss I've actually enjoyed.
This boss is easy as fuck. Learn to dodge faggot
>>336278091
>False king
I never had problems with him. Sure he has giant attacks but he is slow as fuck for most of them.
>>336278091
>tfw i beat the champ on my second try because of a simply fuckup during the first
i was shitting my pants before i entered the area but it wasnt bad at all.
>>336277734
Magic is really good, it literally requires no skill and was able to oneshot the dragon boss and he was supposedly the hardest boss in the game
>>336278187
>the dragon is LITERALLY the easiest boss in the game
Except for, you know, the objectively easier bosses like Wyvern and Deacons
>>336277926
new londo under lost izalith..
>>336278479
I beat the champ too on my second try. He was tough yes like the other bosses I mentioned >>336278091 but they aren't extremely challenging.
They are hard, but not rage inducing nightmares.
>>336276559
There is a magic button on your controller that bends the laws of space and time to let you phase through any object that might hurt you. For those few frames during your roll you invincible, immortal, a god. How incompetent are you that you are given such metaphysical power and yet still have not got gud? How, I ask you, how?
>>336278091
>>336278814
not him but dancer and cinder seem very doable first try
>>336276559
Man you're mad as fuck.
Stop trying so hard and learn his pattern you dingus.
>>336278551
Wyvern itself is a joke, but the enemies in the area make it even slightly a threat unlike King of the Storms.
I summoned on this boss my very first try. In fact ive done so with numerous bosses in every dark souls game. I enjoy co-op and i dont need an imaginary "le do it alone or it doesnt count" badge to feel pride over a video game. Just summon.
The point of a game isto be fun and to relax. If the game is no longer fun and causing you stress thats a sign that you either need to stop having so much false pride or just summon and have fun to move on with the game
>>336278091
Did you ever think it might be because you're a veteran?
Who here beat Cuntsniff Sully without summoning? Because I sure as fuck didn't.
>>336280517
How can you enjoy coop if you can literally let your phantoms do all the work? You're supposed to be a slayer of demons who faces giant abominations and dragons, equipped only with your trusty swordarm and your wits, and who overcomes the odds at the end. Not some pussy ass who needs to call his 2 friends to gank up on them.
>>336280917
I did. With a thrusting sword.
That fight was about 90% done in mid air thanks to how much fucking rolling and time it took.
>>336280917
Literally every boss is the same procedure: you die a few times then learn their patterns and then roll through their attacks.
People who feel the need to summon, probably give up after 3 tries.
>>336280967
Because i dont stand by while they do all the work. I get in as much as possible and have died multiple times even with summons because summons make the boss deal more damage. I like the idea of a group of hunters all chasing down one big badass rather than a anime- esque one vs one.
Summoning doesnt make you enjoy the game less in any way.
>>336276559
I will never understand why people have so much trouble with this boss. His dragon only has one attack and very little hp, while the boss himself has the most telegraphed attacks ever.
Not even using a crutch build, I've 1 shot this boss every time with a greatweapon.
>>336276559
This fight really show how shitty the camera is in DS3
>>336276559
>>336276559
>>336276559
run towards fire so you can mash his face
don't ever fucking lock on to any animal boss larger than you, you should expect this by now
there, now you can win
>>336278091
maybe it's because you have had 4 games to stop being shit. Everyone fucking sucks in their first souls game. Manus seemed hard at first but he's fucking chump change compared to things seen in the bloodborne or DaSII DLC's, or even nameless.
False King SL1 though still remains, and always be, a huge cunt.
>>336280917
I did it on challenge mode in 3 tries
What was his name again?
>>336276559
>The dragon should be tougher but stay dead.
Wait, it can come back to life? Holy fuck, that's cool. I probably killed the guy too fast to see this.
>>336281439
Lies, all lies. You know this to be true, don't give us this bullshit
>>336276559
Get summoned for other people fighting him, so you can learn his moves without any consequence to yourself.
Phase 1 is very easy once you get the hang of it. Second phase can be unforgiving, as sometimes he goes on an unstoppable combo that fucks your asshole if you get hit even once.
Trick I found that helped a lot was to wear a high lighting resist set + resist ring, since tons of his damage is lightning. It really helps to mitigate his damage, so you dont have to spam heal. Use Lothric Shield, as it has 100% physical resist and like 89% lightning resist, so you can tank a few direct hits if necessary.
>>336278421
This. Only in DaS1 does turtling behind your shield actually help in bosses. 2 and 3 you're better off rolling.
>>336279023
Dancer is a bitch if you go after him early like I did, and everyone should, because if you do he becomes the most satisfying boss of all fucking time.
>>336278091
its easy if you spec a certain way, wear a certain type of items and if you're simply overleveled. I beat the game as level 65 with a 18/18 quality build claymore because I spent all my souls on buying all items I could, and it was pretty unforgiving at times.
I wish blocking attacks didn't fuck with your stamina so hard in this game. Is there a special ring or shield or something that'll allow you to block hits without losing stamina so fast?
Also
>block big attack
>still have stamina left
>staggered anyway
fuck this
>>336276559
hahaha how do you get hit by the fire nigga hahaha like just run away haha
>>336285853
>Dancer
>he
3rd try
pontiff was the hardest, smallest windows for opportunity
>>336286187
Who the fuck cares. At this point you should say 'it' anyway, as with almost every other boss. They're undead, mindless monsters at this point, you don't call zombies 'he' or 'she'.
So
>it
>>336286115
the stability stat on shields affect how much stamina is drained when you block. You get staggered if you don't have enough stamina to absorb the hit. If your shield takes 50 stamina damage on a hit, and you only have 30 stamina, you will get staggered.
>>336286515
Is there a ring or anything to increase stability? A lot of the rings in this game are shit for a sordnbord build anyway, so it'd easily be the most valuable ring in the game for me
>>336286863
>Is there a ring or anything to increase stability?
Don't believe so no, but you can upgrade some shields up to +10 extra stability. The trick is to not guard all the time, as your stamina regen gets slowed when you guard. Block an attack and lower guard to regen stamina until next attack.
>>336287026
forgot to add, for this purpose the best ring to use as a shield user is the stamina regen ring. The Grass Crest Shield also has a stamina regen effect which stacks with the ring, but it doesn't have the best defence.
>>336287026
Mmhmm, but it still pisses me off when I get staggered after an attack despite having sufficient stamina.
>>336286115
>>336287264
shouldn't be using shields at all
iframes in DaS3 are huge which is where the lack of difficulty comes from mostly. master rolling (which isn't difficult, roll when you see them start an attack generally) and you'll find this entry in particular very easy.
>>336287264
well the rules of the game is that you will get staggered if the damage did more stamina damage than you had stamina left. Some attacks do more stamina damage than others. To reduce the chance of getting staggered, it's important to level the Endurance stat to increase your stamina so you can tank harder hits.
>>336287730
But sometimes I get attacked- almost always by a boss or red-eye knight- and I still have stamina left, plenty even, but I still get staggered.
>>336287461
>iframes in DaS3 are huge which is where the lack of difficulty comes from mostly.
Normally I'd agree, but the tracking is off the fucking rails on DaS3, with bosses changing direction in mid-air, mid-attack to where you roll to.
It is fun to play a glass cannon though, as long as the game plays fair and follows its own rules.
>>336277926
>>336278636
>ANYTHING under great hollow and ash lake
>>336288102
Maybe I adapted to DaS2's tracking which made this seem easier. The tracking in that is complete fucking bullshit. Not had that problem at all in 3 honestly.
>>336287972
bosses and red eye mobs have some very powerful attacks that does massive amount of stamina damage. Even with like 130 stamina the Nameless King boss has an attack that fully depletes my stamina in one hit. Usually, after such a powerful attack, you will have time to recover after though. Still better to get staggered than take damage, unless you do PVP. You never want to get shield-staggered (aka guard broken) in PVP, as it will open you up to a massive critical hit similar to getting parried.
>>336277801
You have to strike the rider or the dragon's head. If you attack it at the legs, it takes no damage.
>>336284987
He meant that if you die during the 2nd part of the fight, the dragon is alive again when you first walk in the next time
>>336281218
I have a friend that will die to a boss 5 times then start asking me for help. I usually indulge him because I know he'll summon anyways if I don't, and if I'm there I can force him to do stuff by just standing back and making him attack.
>>336277926
>I know he's highly resistant to fire
He's not, I do around 600 damage to him with a single chaos bet vestiges (+10 hand and only 28/28 int/faith).
>>336276559
I beat him first try, since then I've been carrying people through this boss. It's hard to believe how it only takes like 2 seconds after I put my sign symbol down to get summoned.
Realocate to STR build and use dragonslayer armour shield. Makes this easy
>>336276559
This may be a stupid question but does my shield block some damage even if I'm not actively using it to block? Like if I'm not blocking and I get hit will I receive less damage than if I didn't have a shield equipped?
>>336291074
No, unless it has some sort of passive ability that does that, which I believe doesn't happen in this game.
>>336276559
If you mute your headphones, it makes the fight a joke.
Also, not that I think the boss is anything special or even good, but if your camera is breaking, you're probably dodging away from him (aka, what you're not supposed to do).
>>336291074
>>336291301
The only thing I've seen that gives passive resistances is havel's dragon tooth which gives a nice buff to magic resist and fire resist. Haven't seen anything like that on a shield.
>>336278091
manus was a fucking cakewalk. both artorias and kalameet were harder than him.
