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>>336177476
>its unbelievably easy to run through there without getting hit a single time
>newfags think they have to kill every enemy here
>get their shit pushed in over and over again and get frustrated
>quit the game and stop playing
>never realize you can just run past everything
>>336177597
this is actually true for all of BB
>>336177476
>hating on an angry mob for being an angry mob
>>336177697
The ultimate casual filter
>>336177476
>being a retard and fighting every enemy every time
there's other games for people like you, OP
I thought it was fun trying to coax each one to come over with rocks and stuff desu
hold circle and forward on the joystick
>>336177597
This right here is why DS3 is better than BB. You call having the ability to run through the entire game without getting hit "good". I feel sorry for you, having to play games at 20fps and at 900p must have fried your brain.
>>336177476
You can kill half of them without the other half even turning around.
>>336177476
lol like landing an axe spin in the middle of that crowd isn't the most satisfying thing in soulsborne.
>>336177597
miyazaki always designs this.
>dark souls 1
>can run from boss to boss without killing anything
>dark souls 2
>have to kill unless you want to get fucked in fog gates, switches or doors
>dark souls 3
>can run from boss to boss without killing anything
everytime
>>336177476
At least you aren't one of my friends.
he got stuck on the first boss for 6 hours. SIX HOURS.
AND HE COMPLAINED IN THE PARRTY THE WHOLE TIME.
He also only beat him with molotovs. same with the 2nd boss.
>>336177986
underage b& pls go
>>336177697
>not killing all of them on first try
wtf? it isn't difficult at all, just lure them fucknuts.
>>336177771
You mean that's true for all the Souls+BB games
>>336177771
Pretty true for most souls games really
>>336178075
kill yourself
>>336178187
underage b& pls go
>>336177912neverwait for itever
>>336177476
there is no other part in Bloodborne that has that many enemies all in one place.
they probably designed this part of the game like this to teach you a valuable gameplay mechanic: drawing out single enemies from a larger group.
just goes to show how amazing Bloodborne's level design is.
>>336178165
The only exception is the run to smelter in Scholar of the First Sin.
>>336178165
>>336178184
But it was the easiest in BB thanks to the dodges costing 1 stamina and having iframes outta the ass
>>336177912
>PC cuck butt blasted because he'll never get to enjoy the best souls game.
>>336178281
pretty much. it fucked over everyone that was new to the series
>>336178375
DaS 3 also has this problem.
>>336178165
Actually no, just BB
>>336178519
True enough, but I don't mind it too much. Fighting all of the enemies every time you die to the boss sucks, I mostly just enjoy fighting them when I'm exploring it for the first time that playthrough.
>>336178297
>running to smelly
>not just going up the ladder to get the belfry bonfire
>>336178109
The point isn't that it's difficult, it's that it's a tedious part of the route at the beginning before you get the shortcut through the house. What generally makes people quit these games is the tedium, not the difficulty. What was probably happening to a lot of people was shit like
>fight through to the square
>kill all the dudes
>fight the giant without knowing how to parry, die
>go back and fight through the square again and die
>go back and fight through the square, kill all the dudes again and kill the giant
>die to the werewolves on the bridge
And so forth, where if you cut out the guys in the square by running past them it removes a huge amount of tedium. If you haven't played a Souls game you just don't know that there are instances where it's better to run past some enemies after you've established what the next area past them is like and how far they'll chase you. I think >>336178281 is right about why the square is in the game so close to the start, but I think it's also to weed out the new players who have no patience or don't understand how much mobility they actually have.
>>336177476
THIS TOWN'S FINISHED
>>336177978
I remember hauling ass to gwyn and having a black knight fuck me up zoning through the gate.
>>336178760
A W A Y
W
A
Y
>>336178683
>smelly
you got a kek outta me
>>336178863
always roll away from a fog gate
>>336178538
Nah pham, running past all the enemies on your way to boss has pretty much always been a trivial effort in these games.
OP should try Old Hunters.
>HUNTERS EVERYWHERE
>>336178760
Fuck, i don't have the english language.
>>336178713
That was my experience with it and I only got to play it for a couple hours, just ran past shit, because once you have no souls you don't care run to the next checkpoint or shortcut or whatever and then you can backtrack and get all the stuff you missed. BB really is different than souls that it feels longer between checkpoints unlike souls especially 3 where theres a bonfire pretty close by somewhere.
>>336178935
It was the first time I ever recall it happening to me in DS1 i knew after that though.
>>336178713
I usually make a point to kill the dogs and riflemen. Fromsoft's dogs are always total cunts, and being shot does a disproportionately large amount of damage.
>>336177912
you can easily do it in DS3 too
>>336178713
>dying cause you can't parry
hello retard unable to kill gwyn without parry
>>336177912
You can do that in every Souls game though. In fact, it's muc more intelilgent than fighting every enemy.
I always run through the level picking up shit, die when I need to, then just not get hit by the boss. Use the boss Soul, you level up and you're good.
Yo never need to fight unless you're shit.
>>336178489
How is it the best souls game? Really how? It dosent even have souls in its name, no sheilds, no magic, its nothing like souls. What you guys got was a spin off. A spin off that isnt worth shit with those loading times and fps.
>>336179074
Holy shit that part right before the cathedral with all the dogs and crossbow guys fucked me up a couple times.
Anyone a cane-fag here? I didn't realize how awesome the weapon would be until I gave it a go myself. It's like I really am playing 3D castlevania like it was meant to be.
>>336178109
this
>>336179190
There's actually two shields, and magic was just modified to work like items.
>>336178760
YOU PLAGUE-RIDDEN RAT
>>336178713
>Parrying
Fuck that, I used the Hunter's Torch and the Cannon the whole game. If I can't kill something within one stamina bar, it can't be killed. Unless it's a boss, of course. Guns are for babies.
STR4LYFE
>>336178713
Why would anyone fight the werewolves on the bridge? I opened the shortcut before I knew they were there.
>>336179002
I'm about to finish the DLC (kos boss). Its a masterpiece : The atmosphere, the graphics, the art, the boss...
>>336179247
>It's like I really am playing 3D castlevania like it was meant to be.
Even more so with Fire paper
>>336179190
It's no excuse for the state the game was launched in, but there's been a patch that fixed the loading times.
>>336178760
CURSED BEAST
>>336179339
noted
>>336179338
Come back after you've beaten Kos. We'll see if you still hold that opinion.
There's all the chance in the world you'll come back with a shattered PS4 controller.
>>336179190
>people think BB's loading times are still bad
>>336179190
>no shields
>no magic
>havent played so he doesnt know
I never leveled my health in any of the previous souls games. BB started this trend of mandatory unavoidable damage and forced you to level vigor
>>336179190
YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE!
Personally I enjoyed all the enemies at the beginning of BB. It was so hype and action packed running around 2-handing the big axe weapon and carving my way through all the crowds. I had SO much fun.
>>336179264
I feel sorry for you piss4 players, having to hold up the shitfest of a game bloodborne since its the only thing you have to play on that potato console
>>336179190
AWAY
AWAY
>>336179247
Cane the most elegant weapon in the game. Thats why /v/ hates it. I always feel like playing as a true english gentleman with this weapon.
>>336179439
you*ll love the first weapon you get in old hunters
>>336179523
there's no mandatory damage
the old games were just much slower so it was easier to avoid getting hit
>>336179190
>no shields
That's kind of the point numbnuts
>no magic
wew laddy
>>336179190
>no shields
No shields you can use reliably for every attack, you mean. There are two shields--one is great at blocking bullets, the other at blocking magic. You can't tank melee, though, and that's good.
>no magic
Not true. Arcane is really strong in Bloodborne. They just did the same thing with spells that they did with weapons: pared them down to 12 spells that cover most of the bases of what spells did in the Souls games, but without the bloat of six different types of Soul Arrow.
>loading times
Fixed. It was shitty at launch, granted, but it's better.
>fps
Fair criticism.
>>336177476
>thought there was a way to open the gate the troll/giant was banging on
>spent an hour rolling around thinking i had to have him charge me roll away and hit the door
>found out i was just an idiot
>>336179190
Nah man. BB is a good game. They're all fun.
>>336179523
What exactly are you talking about with mandatory damage? I'm confused.
>>336179523
Are you fucking retarded? I finished the game while barely upping my health.
>>336179247
It's okay, but weak, the dlc whip is much better.
>>336179523
>mandatory unavoidable damage
Like what? You know people have beaten the game at level 4, right? That means without leveling Vitality.
>>336179190
>no shields
>using shields ever
kekerio
>>336179247
The cane is my favorite weapon in the whole series, honestly. Its damage isn't great but I love its moveset and it's just so much fun to use.
Then you load it up with good Chalice gems and its damage becomes good and it's just a really damn fun weapon.
I liked how Faith and Intelligence were merged in BB.
I got to play a churchy type and use the variant MLGS at the same time.
>>336179523
>mandatory unavoidable damage
Frenzy? Isn't that % based
People that shit talk Arcane in BB don't know what they're missing. Arcane is hella good since the latest patch
>>336177777
>>336179774
Theres been SL1 runs of every souls game anyone complaining about mandatory damage is a retard and doesn't deserve a (you).
>>336178760
ITS
ALL
YOUR
FAULT
>>336179923
It is. It's also rare and entirely avoidable. The only places with the frenzy brain enemies either make it easy to run past them without getting frenzied, or are entirely optional side-paths.
>>336179718
Don't feel bad, I watched my friend who was new to Souls games start BB. He got killed by the Scourge Beast in the clinic, somehow missed the weapons in the Hunter's Dream, also somehow didn't think to run past it, and died a gazillion times before just killing the thing with his bare fists. He was pissed when I told him he didn't have to do that.
>>336179190
>No magic
Watch another walkthrough.
>>336179931
Yeah, Arcane is amazing. The ability to make most weapons elemental without any split damage just makes it even better.
>>336180018
>also somehow didn't think to run past it
not something that would naturally occur to a person unless they played souls games.
in every other game you kill enemies that are presented to you, you dont run past them
>>336177476
Roll roll attack
>>336180113
Until you encounter a boss with magic resistance + the arcane scaling isn't really good with most of the weapons.
Literally fuck these two bitches!
>>336180340
You don't NEED particularly good Arcane scaling when you can easily target elemental weaknesses. There isn't a single boss that resists both fire and bolt so just have one weapon with each type of gem and you're set. Use fire on beasts and bolt on Great Ones and kin.
>>336180126
That approach only fails in two areas, even:
1) Horsecock Valley. Those things are faster than you and will never stop chasing.
2) The deep bits of Farron Keep. The giant casters that hang out there are super persistent.
There's probably more areas, but that's all I can think of because I should have been in bed two hours ago.
>>336180018
hah yep this was my first souls game took me like 2-3 tries to notice the notes in dream and select my weapon
>>336177978
Nah, it definitely takes more effort to do it in 2, but you can still run past everything pretty easily.
>>336179874
Yeah, it's moveset is what appeals to me. You aren't throwing around a cumbersome weapon so it feels a lot more mobile to me.
>>336179157
That sounds like a pretty boring way to play tho
Daily reminder
Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 > Bloodborne > Demon Souls >= Dark Souls 2
>>336180540
And thats why imo physic is better, because of fire/bolt paper + good scaling.
I did an arcane and a BLT characters but pve was definitely easier with physic.
>>336178760
>>336178760
BURN!Burn.
>>336181073
>dupes to level 90 in the beginning of the game
>WOOOW THIS GAME IS EASY
>>336181073
>DSP pic
>Demon Souls not better or equal to Dark Souls 1
opinion trashed so fucking hard.
>>336181073
You forgot BB's DLC which he ragequit on Ludwig kek
>>336181290
>Liking the most dated and easy Souls game
>liking games that you haven't played purely to fit in
Come back when you've played it
>>336181346
>Bloodborne is literally incomplete without DLC
He rage quitted Nameless King the moment he summoned.
>>336181073
Phil grinded like 50 extra levels a third of the way through his BB playthrough. He didn't really grind at all in DaS3
>>336181425
>you haven't played
projecting
>>336179931
Since the latest patch? I played an Arcane run previous and it was still a blast. Exterminating beasts and vermin alike with the flamesprayer were some of my favorite moments.
Hello.
>>336180479
I might.
LOL LET'S JUST PUT ENEMIES EVERYWHERE!!!
>>336179523
>>336179523
The only game in which leveling health matters is in DaS3 because armor sucks and the late game enemies/bosses will one shot you if you don't level up your health.
Bloodborne has this weird scaling thing so outside of counter hits, beast buildup or their very strongest attacks nothing will really oneshot you.
>>336181530
>>336181346
>>336181290
>>336181281
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/03/02/dark-souls-3a-bloodborne-fans-perspective
> immediately hit a learning curve so steep I barely made it halfway up. As From Software veterans know, Dark Souls is a very different series to Bloodborne. It’s slower and weightier; there's more waiting around during combat. As I played, I felt like Andre the Giant floundering about in the featherweight division: I kept trying to roll around enemies to dodge their blows, but my armoured body was too slow. Lifting my sword felt too heavy. I was running through molasses.
>I eventually presumed my time with Bloodborne had mapped my brain irreversibly (I of course chose to blame everything but myself), and gave up.
TL;DR - Bloodbornebabbie tries spamming his way through Dark Souls. Gets BTFO and rage quits
Enjoy your casual Souls spinoff single platform Sonycucks
>>336181832
fuck that guy, beating him legit was worse than any of the bosses in bb for me.
>>336181868
They respawn, you're supposed to run
>>336181929
Did you literally just pick random posts to reply to? Or are you really that spastic?
>>336182058
LOL UNKILLABLE RESPAWNABLE ENEMIES?
NICE GAME ROFL
>>336181425
>difficulty is synonymous with quality
>telling someone they have or haven't played something with no reason
>i'm still replying
Is this what it means to be baited?
>>336180018
I did that too but only died like 3 times before fisting it. Was my first souls game and had heard all the git gud shit so I just thought it was meant to be THAT hard. Felt so good killing it
>>336182282
Give me two observable and measurable things that Demon Souls does over Dark Souls 1
>ALRIGHT SO GET THIS. INSTEAD OF MAKING AN ACTUAL BOSS LETS JUST TAKE A LATE GAME MOB AND PUT HIM IN A 3X3 ROOM WHERE THE CAMERA GETS CAUGHT ON THE ENVIRONMENT
>ALSO LETS GIVE HIM 2 DOGS AND HAVE THEM ALL BUM RUSH YOU THE SECOND YOU GO IN THE ROOM LOL
>Fromsoft: Amazing, promote this man immediately.
>>336178281
Fellow kirkbro
>>336182101
>bloodbornebabbies damage controlling Phil finding Bloodborne literally 2ez
>find another bloodbornebabbie who rage quitted Dark Souls
Bloodborne is casual souls anon, deal with it
>>336182389
>spawned the Souls series
>doesn't try to be part of a continuous, self-absorbed series
>some of the coolest settings and enemies
>including one of the best representations of a mind flayer in any game
Dark Souls 1 was practically a carbon copy of DeS.
>>336181963
yep, he's honestly up there with defiled hotdog, headless bloodletting beast, and abhorrent beast in terms of difficulty. He can finish you off so fast if you fuck up.
>>336182557
My post literally said nothing about Bloodborne, you autist. You must be a fucking pajeet or some other third worlder if you can't read simple English.
>>336177912
I've been doing more running past shit in DS3 than I ever did in BB though.
>>336182482
Killed him on my third try, first time ever playing a souls game. Capra Demon wasn't shit.
>>336182729
>evelyn.
What a generic copy you made + you think you're the 1st guy that wanted to do a BLT build because of this dude ?
Since Bloodborne threads always bring in shitposting, does anybody want to trade Never Ever/Console/PC anger images? I like to collect them like pokemon cards.
>>336178281
There's the corridor to the lantern in the Fishing Hamlet where Simon is waiting.
>4-5 fish dogs
>4-5 fish men
>giant piece of shit fucker with the anchor
>on top of that, the fucking statue spewing the tracking skulls
>>336182557
>DSP dupes himself to level 90+ at the beginning of the game
>Finds the game easy
No fucking shit lad
>>336182482
He wasn't supposed to be a late game mob until they ran out of money and time.
>>336179247
definitely, i didnt switch all the way through the dlc either.
whip was good at the beginning for CC before you learn to parry reliably.
after a few hours i was in cane mode 90% of the time.
>>336181929
>IGN as source EVER
this should be bannable
>>336182526
pvp backstab viscerals make me moist
>>336182557
He literally grinded offcam like 3 times because he couldnt do it and quit the dlc
>>336183156
I need to try out cane mode. I've been enjoying the whip so much I tend to forget the alternative exists.
>>336181262
Theres only a handful of weapons that have great scailing. The rest usually have D/C scailing in strength/skill just like their Arcane stat.
Plus you also get Executioners, A call beyond, the DLC tools, Kos Parasite, Moonlight Greatsword, etc. Unless you're running a skilltinge build, there's no reason to not implement Arcane into your build besides personal preference.
>>336178760
>>336178874
>>336179280
>>336179389
YOU'RE NOT WANTED HERE
>>336181073
DSP died to Pontiff 40 times and 60 times to Champion Gundyr. I can understand Pontiff a bit, but not Gundyr. At all. I solo'd him both times without dying once in NG and NG+
I honestly think he doesnt want to play anymore
>>336179190
>Souls babby thinking he can badmouth bloodborne because of FPS
nigger DeS and pre-PC DaS had abysmal framerate drops. Nobody ever expected a souls game to have good framerate.
I was honestly pretty pissed off with how Bloodborne started. I felt it wasn't being kind to new players and ended up being rather frustrating. Once you understand just about everything you're capable of doing, the path from the start to the bridge is easy enough, but there are many ways you can be fucked over if you're still getting a feel for how things work.
Honestly, I don't like it. Then DaSIII comes around and the introduction is TOO easy. Feels like it may as well not even be there, it's a total joke.
>>336183802
I have a feeling Bloodborne started off hard just to make sure people that bought it only because it a PS4 exclusive knew what they were getting into.
>>336183802
A nightmare is meant to be frustrating, and confusing and struggling and all that. DaS3 is going into casual direction.
>>336183603
champion is pretty tough
not 60 times tough, but dying 5-10 times is normal
Beasts all over the shop
>>336184062
Nah, that's bull. It doesn't feel like a nightmare, it feels annoying. There are more nightmarish/dreamlike kinds of things later on and they aren't frustrating.
>>336178683
That doesn't work in SotFS.
>>336184131
You'll be one of them...sooner or later
>>336184292
What's that smell?
>>336182929
he uses the repeating pistol, not evelyn
i've done tons of characters anon
>>336183292
Here you go, bae.
>>336184173
Those rock throwing snipers in mensis annoyed the piss out of me
>>336179190
I actually consider it my favorite because it never bored me or otherwise lost a feeling of fun. The weird weapons helped a lot to that effect for me.
>>336179190
>Bitching about no shields
Literally a crutch. Git gud, you shitter.
>>336184508
Just beat that guy today after 3 tries, good lord did that feel good, and i never got the timing down, is he actually parryable?
>>336184525
kek
>>336179190
>no shields
There are some but you mainly dodge/dash. Your character is agile and it feels right. I liked it.
>no magic
Arcane, you fucking imbecile.
>Loading and fps
Loading times got fixed with a patch. I won't defend the fps though.
I don't even have a no game station 4. I played through BB on a roomies system and thought it was a good Souls game.
You might want to go to the doctor though. Seems like you've come down with a case of being a tremendous faggot.
>>336184531
I had no trouble with them, was more bothered by the darkbeasts. Even then, more bothered by the spider greeting in the main hall. Either way I didn't take long to get past either.
Rock throwers were more of a pain for me in the Nightmare Frontier. I just thought of them as a nuisance.
>>336181073
>you'll never be this salty
Hi men I like all of the souls game.s god bless
>>336184643
Of course he is.
Am I the only one that enjoyed the absolute crazy cinematics in BB?
Hald the time you dont even know whats going on
>>336184643
yeah but it's risky as fuck
>>336177476
In every souls game I literally just suicide run through the whole level, pick up all the items and unlock all the shortcuts I can, die, repeat, and then fight my way to the boss
When you are faster than 99% of the enemies and enemies give up chase after 10 meters, you literally dont need to fight anything except bosses.
>>336179190
I missed the Weapon transformation in DaS3, gave the battles more variety.
And getting health back by attaking is a major selling point for me.
>>336178972
except DS2
>>336181897
bosses in ds 3 doesnt have one shot normal attack. they just have a lot of combos compared to previous games.
>>336184525
>that subtle red glow
Why did DaS3 go back to shitty phantom shades?
>>336184835
How does that feature work exactly in Bloodborne? I've seen it happen but never have the chance to tell what triggers it. Is it those special parry attacks?
>>336184525
what was the story with that brain ? where does it come from ?
>>336177697
> being this bad
>>336184748
>>336184819
That nigger is fast as fuck, too
>>336184835
Getting HP back for attacking was only good against packs of low tier enemies at the beginning and those zombies in chalices.
Rather useless mechanics in the grand scheme of the game.
>>336185008
>if you don't level up your health
>>336184825
you lack the spirit of a true warrior. taste my steel, idiot fucker
>>336178713
This describes my experience with the first Dark Souls. I love games with tough battles and I enjoy grinding when it results in noticeable strength increases, but I really dislike having to redo dungeons just to fight a boss again. This is why most games put save points right before bosses.
>>336184779
I really love the scene after Rom where your dude turns around to see a big fuckoff angry moon.
>>336185027
What part of his post are you responding to?
There are runes that cause visceral attacks to restore health. If you get hit, your health bar doesn't really drain for approximately 2 seconds. During that time if you get hits in you can prevent the loss of health that the attack caused.
>>336185027
When you get hit, part of your health remains orange, if you hit something while that orange health is there, you get it back. Its to encourage you to stay on the offensive even after getting hit.
>>336185174
*teleports behind you*
It was a hologram
>>336185019
because ds 1 and 2 did it? and there are the deception rings?
>>336177476
Dude let's put chromatic aberration everywhere!
>>336179523
I think this anon spoke oddly but frankly, if you want to avoid a lot of frustration it seems you NEED to level health in BB which I think is horrible in a game that emphasizes dodging in its design.
There are a ton of attacks as the game goes on that will kill you in one hit on lower health levels, and that's much too punishing for one lack of or otherwise mistimed dodge.
I went through nearly the entire game without leveling health and suffered a lot for it, but did so just to say I did it. I basically reached Ebrietas and the final bosses before leveling up health, and I leveled up health not because of them but because The Bloody Crow of Cainhurst was killing me if he ever managed to get a bullet in me and I was getting pissed off.
>>336182482
Killed him on my first try. I must have gotten lucky and killed the dog fast. You get plenty of time to kill them before he shambles into range. He's so slow and you can block every one of his attacks. Doesn't even matter if he guard breaks you since he hardly ever does combos
>>336185197
>grinding when it results in noticeable strength increases
>in dark souls
lmao no.
>>336185301
>chromatic aberration
haven't heard that flavor of the week term in a while. How have you been senpai?
>>336183802
Bloodborne was my first game. It being unkind to me was exactly what pulled me in. It felt like the game began right away. Less like I was playing a game and more like I was being thrust into a world.
Hopped onto the bandwagon late, do people still play online for DaS1+2?
>>336185458
yes, a lot too
Only Demon's Souls is dead.
>>336185264
>because ds 1 and 2 did it?
Are you really trying to imply that DaS3 didn't take anything whatsoever from BB? Why would you want your character to look 100% orange? It looked like shit in those games and it looks shit now.
>>336185458
I still get invaded on DS1, so yes.
>>336185441
Understandable but it mostly pissed me off.
I started enjoying it after Cleric Beast (who, in comparison to the run up to him, was easy as fuck and went down one try for me without much effort). Became my favorite title "in the series" (since it's technically not Souls) after
>>336184779
the cinematics were so dope. the one you get after rom wows me every time i see it
>>336185458
Not on PC they don't.
>>336185441
I am pretty sure that's what appeals to everyone who comes to the series at some point or another. And it's environments and mystique. Those two factors helped with my interest.
>>336184779
yeah they were great
>>336185791
i just love how you have dick shit of an idea as to whats going on at the start
>>336185791
I was interested because of the atmosphere.
I don't consider any game in the series truly difficult. They're actually all pretty easy.
>>336185139
It depends on your weapon. I went through the chalice dungeons with a burial blade and trading blows for health with the headless bloodletting beast was how I ended up beating him.
>>336184779
no you were not
>>336179497
They are
>>336185139
But it fits the theme rather well of drawing blood and especially for parrying you will get hit but if you viscreal at the same time, you get your health back and dont have to heal, so the flow of the game doesn't get interrupeted.
This saved my ass tons of times.
The most depressing thing about Dark Souls III was that I liked it but I didn't feel anything stronger than "like" about it and all it did was make me want to go play Bloodborne again.
So I'm doing that instead of DS3 NG+.
>>336185920
The issue with the term difficulty is people with experience will have a completely different perspective that those that don't have the experience. The Souls games are hard out of the gate but once you master the mechanics, they seem easy. I think that helps with the appeal is that it feels like you develop a skill for games when playing it.
>>336184779
The cutscenes in BB are really underrated and have some legit great cinematography. I never skip them on replays.
>>336178713
You can easily R1 mash and O spam yourself into beating the giant with the brick even if you're not gonna try the gun parry.
And the werewolves on the bridge, they can be bypassed by going on the other path with the dog cages that leads to the dark room with the weelchair guy.
Plus the game gives you 6 molotovs just before them and countless pebbles and basically teaches you that 1v1 good, 5v1 bad so you learn to bait one at a time and circle strafe.
>>336186081
Same thing that happened to me, did a 100% run of BB after finishing DS3. DS3 is fun, but that's all. The original IPs are special experiences.
>>336185920
They are only easy if you played one of these type of games before and if you blind it completely without discussions on the chan and everywhere
>>336186081
DaS III is completely burned out for me. i think i'll go do the same. 100% BBmight record a playthrough for that YT channel too.
>>336177986
Do you mean Papa G or Cleric Beast?
This is important
>tfw I just know that buying a PS4 would feel like a massive waste of money immediately afterwards
>still want to play BB, if only for the outfits
>>336185019
Because BB has two colors, red and blue.
DaS3 has white, orange, orange-red, red, purple, purple-red, blue, darker blue, blue-red.
They colors would probably be hard to see.
>>336186228
I actually like a lot of what DS3 did with the lore and I think returning to that setting one more time worked out pretty well, but yeah, Bloodborne is something a lot more special.
>>336177697
What the h*ck do you not kill every enemy at least once?
Sure if you're just running to the boss you skip everything, but playing through it the first time you kill everything.
>>336186124
I don't consider them even hard out of the gate. Maybe some of them are frustrating, but not hard.
What separates the idea in my head is how much failure feels like it was your own fault. Does it feel like you just died because of bullshit, or because of your lack of skill?
I considered DMC3 a hard game from the getgo (not 1, that game got hard later), and I knew my losing to Cerberus was mostly on me sucking shit.
On the other hand I made it through a great distance in DaS without getting frustrated. The game is slow, once you understand that it's easy. As for BB, part of the frustration I personally had from the start definitely came from me not understanding the game, but at the same time I consider that a failure of the game designer because I SHOULD be able to smoothly start understanding the game.
Like, that game tries to kill you in the first encounter. You don't have to die (I didn't), but it still took me a fair amount of damage/recovery to kill that werewolf because I wasn't entirely sure of the mechanics. Once I got him in a "fist my asshole" state from a strong hit to his back, it became easy, but that should have been something I figured out on weaker enemies first, not lost to the first enemy because it just wasn't in my arsenal.
It's that kind of thing.
>>336186368
Bloodborne is probably the easiest souls game to 100%, only bad parts are getting all three endings and beating Yharnam
>>336186423
Life is a waste anyway, just have some fun anon, don't care about wastingi wasted 500 shekels in half an hour once
>>336186423
>promised myself I wouldn't buy a console until it had three games I want to play
>Ratchet and Clank recently came out
>going to have to wait another year for one more game
>>336186423
Same. I'd honestly buy a PS4 but the fact that it's a literal bloodborne machine wouldn't feel worth it. I hear that it's as long as DkS3 too, so there's really no way I'm spending 400€ + 40€ for BB.
I also don't care for any of the other games on it.
>>336186854
>Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
>Final Fantasy XV
>The Last Guardian
All this year. Not interested in any of those?
>>336177476
I can tell this is console screens hot because photo is in 25 fps
>>336186330
I don't think so. DaS at least felt like the tutorial area was very thorough and understandable.
>learn to avoid incoming fire without a shield
>learn to block attacks/how stamina drain works
>learn to fight
>there's a trap that can fuck you over, but you can avoid it
>teaches you about how the environment can change
>if you want, you can learn to parry on two very simple enemies as many times as you want, the distance from the bonfire to the stronger enemies is short
>on that note, you learn about bonfire respawn
>you learn plunging attacks and face a relatively simple boss
>okay, play the game
After that I felt pretty ready. I think the next thing that gave be trouble was Sen's Fortress. After that, fat guy and lancer.
BB was honestly balanced wrong, the start is hard as fuck, most classes start with barely any HP and while you don't get 1 shot, you get 1 rounded by a combo that will stunlock you, usually involving multiple enemies.
Plus you can't even level up till you find and use a madman's knowledge or find a boss.
That fucking square with the burning beast on a cross is literally the first boss of this game and the 2 werewolfs on the bridge that seem AI linked because a few seconds after the first one sees you, the second comes as well.
No wonder like 30% of players never got to Gascognie.
>>336186702
Getting all three endings can easily be done in one playthrough. The chalice dungeons are the only thing that makes it somewhat difficult. It's more just a time sink though. I'd probably play a new character if it weren't for the horror of farming chalices for gems, fuck that.
I doubt I'll be getting a plat in DaS3. Grinding covenant items is not fun and Ive never gone past NG+ because I just prefer making new characters and trying new things. I'm pretty burnt out on it already to be honest. Probably going to give it a break.
>>336187052
You mean Snorlax and Pikachu?
>>336186648
That's strange. I loved DMC3 and wouldn't consider it as hard as Souls games. Guess it's all in varying player experiences. I will say the werewolf in the beginning is a strange idea. Especially when I realized you DON'T have to die to him at all. It also doesn't help that any souls you obtain until you get your first humanity (or whatever BB calls it) are practically negated by the fact that you can't do anything with them especially if you die a few times in the process. I will say BB is way more grueling than DaS1-3 though. Not sure what the decision was there.
>>336187295
Biggie and Smalls.
>>336186873
You could play DaS3 without hackers.
Hello friends, I have question. If I killed Amelia already is it too late to start Iosefka's shit for true ending?
>>336186702
I wonder just how many people's platinum trophies happened there.
>>336177476
That screen makes me wonder how the PS4 handles that game.
I'm guessing the game doesnt run at 60 FPS, and I have been so used to play DS on PC now that I will probably get sick going back to 30~20FPS when I play Bloodborne.
>>336187286
>Getting all three endings can easily be done in one playthrough.
>just now playing a full arcane character for the first time
Has any other Souls game been so fun on a magic character?
I have one that uses MLGS but going full 70 Arcane is just too much fun.
>>336187371
170 hours on PC and I haven't met a hacker yet fampai. I'm okay.
>>336187310
I just think it was a bad choice. Starting area was kind of BS. Everything after felt largely fair.
>>336187424
How do you tell if someone has the Blodborne platinum? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
>>336187286
I'm pretty scared to grind out the covenant items myself. Really contemplating that 100% completion.
>>336186702
Yeah, it's one of the only games I've ever Platinum'd because none of the trophies were annoying bullshit. It was just all stuff I was gonna do anyway because I like the game.
>>336187424
Mine was getting the replace Gehrman ending. I didn't copy my save file to get all three endings so I ended up playing through three times for them and that was the last one I got.
I did a pseudo-speedrun to get the Yharnam Sunrise ending because everything post-Rom is easy to run past and the bosses aren't tough, so I just grabbed a Saw Cleaver and sprinted through the game. It was fun.
>>336187424
a lot
I think since the DLC they have made it so the queen can no longer drop a blood rock. I've done the dungeons twice since the DLC released and both times I only got chunks or nothing, even after loading a backup.
>>336187423
No.
>>336187448
You can copy your save to a USB and get each ending with one playthrough if you want to.
>>336187457
It's just a shame it's so hard to go full aayy.
>>336186423
Don't. I love BB, but just don't.
>I dream about BB on PC remastered with dynamic shadows.
>>336187419
Why does the moon presence take such an ugly form ?
It's like 80% exploding ribs and spine...
>>336187742
They made it so that you can only get one bloodrock per chalice type on a character. (may be ng+ cycle, I don't know)
>>336184361
Amelia farted
>>336186423It's worth it.
>>336187962
>shadows
You just reminded me about how horrible the shadows in Dark Souls 3 were. Every single time the fucking shadows from the player or mobs didn't match the angle of the shadows from the geometry.
>>336187962
Why would you expect that? DS3 on PC has the exact same lighting system Bloodborne uses.
>>336188213
I have the yharnam stone on 3 different characters, only one of them got a blood rock. I used a backup on one of the queen fights and killed her 6x, she only ever dropped the yharnam stone and chunks or just the yharnam stone.
>>336187448
As long as you have a USB and don't fuck up getting the 3 cords, you can.
>>336188175
Because it's half beast, half ayy lmao slug.
>>336187457
I do like the magics in BB. I think in the other games it's fucking dull, though.
>finally decently powerful with arcane
>decide to get summoned for fighting Amy
>walk into the boss room, spam executioner glove, dead in seconds
Even I was surprised.
>>336188430
i know. That's why i'm talking about "dream" and "remastered"
>finished the game yesterday
>100 hours, blind play through
>just want to go play bloodborne again now
It's just an objectively good game and especially now. The lore and atmosphere as well shit all over 3. DaS3 has big problems that aren't being addressed and for some reason I'm turned off from NG+. Fix it, give it dlc.
>>336189530
Well there's still time for that, they have a season pass so obviously some sort of DLC is planned.
>>336177476
Literally LMAO if you can't beat all the souls games SL1 with your nuts in a slowly turning vice on a timer like a fucked up James Bond deathtrap
>>336187457
Squid mage is literally the most fun caster in the series.
Stacking kos parasite with chalice gems literally turned you into a cyclopean murderhobo yakkety saxxing your ridiculous way across Yharnam
>>336190043
He now has a brew too
>>336186494
>h*ck
Hello Rebbit
>>336189530
I want to go play it after one play through. I missed an entire area and every NPC quest though.
>>336187457
I like arcane but it takes too long to get started
>>336190702
Which area and npcs senpai
>>336188925
It's kind of amusing to me that Bloodborne has by far the most stripped-down magic in the series and yet it's also the best and most satisfying magic in the series.
>>336179157
>using the boss soul to level up
That's fucking stupid.
>>336188925
Ex gloves are silly in pvp, too. Can't tell you how many people dodge them right into a fully upgraded rosmarinus.
>>336179449
I will never understand this meme. I beat him first try and it really wasn't even difficult.
>>336191352
Why? If you don't care about the item you can make who cares?
>>336189530
It seriously took you 100 hours to beat it? What the fuck. I did it in 20 first blind play.
>>336177771
I thought this was Undead settlement in DS3. Fuck. Literally just a rehash I see.
>>336179190
>DaS3
>Magic is shit
>Shields are shit
>No poise
Whats the difference your essentially play a worst BB
>>336177697
Reminder you havent beat a SoulsBorne level until you can walk the entire area without seeing an enemy
>>336184779
>Beat Rom
>Queen's crying
>Baby crying
>Red moon
>Ritual secret broken. Seek the nightmare newborn
every fucking time I swear
>>336192035
I don't get the magic is shit meme. For PVP sure but I found my sorcery run perfectly viable for PVE.
>>336192298
Everything is viable for PvE.
>>336192197
It all makes sense on a 2nd run when you read all those lore notes.
>>336192298
Don't know about sorcery but miracles are shit and a lot of bosses resist the fuck out of them. The buffs are solid but buffing is a boring as fuck playstyle and hard to pull off in a bossfight. The only offensive spell I really used was the Gnawing spell which hit certain enemies pretty hard.
doesn't help that faith gets piss-tier infusions.
>>Beat all bosses in one or a few attempts
>>Beat Ludwig in two attempts
>>Beat Maria in two attempts
>>Absolutely cannot beat Orphan of Kos
I don't know what the fuck is happening. I thought Ludwig would be the most difficult DLC boss because of his random attacks and power, but he was relatively easy. The Orphan is fucking something else entirely, though. Hits like a fucking tank and doesn't leave you room to breathe in his second phase. It's goddamn ridiculous.
I haven't tried Laurence yet. I already know that fight is going to be harder than Orphan of Kos, I just don't want to confirm it.
>>336179923
>what are sedatives
>>336185441
personally, i didn't start enjoying BB until i hit cathedral ward
the 2 werewolves on the bridge should have been reduced to one. that alone would have made the game a lot less bullshit
bloodborne has a stupid difficulty curve where the game gets easier as it goes along (until the DLC)
>>336192985It's not harder.
I just hate that so many enemies end up with the same flurry of sweeping side-to-side attacks that can kill you in one combo if it were to all hit you, and just for the hell of it, they can go on for anywhere from 2-10 hits with no visual indication of when it's going to stop, which means even if you've seen it and properly dodged, punishing it is a total guessing game.
>>336192985
wew ladI summoned for Lawrence, I didn't for orphan
>>336192985
>Spent half a day fighting Oprhan of Kos
>Broke myself while fighting him
>finally beat him, after seemingly a fight of eternity.
>Ophan of Kos made me gid gud at the game.
It hurts, but it feels right
>>336192985
>still can't beat Ludwig
>finally reliably get him to phase two
>can't even think of how to deal with itUsing the stake driver, by the way
>>336193108
You don't even have to ever fight the werewolves on the bridge
>>336185378
>>Bloody Crow of Cainhurst
That fight was goddamn unfair because of the Repeating Pistol and From knows it.
>>336184131
What did he mean by this?
>>336193586
>infinite fucking bullets
>somewhat inconsistent in attack pattern so attacking him outside of very safe timing is a bad idea
I hated him. I beat him once and I don't think I will again. I accidentally recorded my replay of the time I beat him, though, and rewatching that is hilarious. You can tell how often I got punished because I basically play it safe for a tense 7 minutes. Barely took damage but aside from when his transformed chikage was out I only attacked for 1 swipe hit and runs.
>>336193156
This. The biggest complaint I have against Bloodborne is the fucking aberrant stunlock and multi-hit attacks you can't anticipate, but will fuck your ass if you get caught in a combo. I fucking hate mob tactics and endless combo whoring, and Bloodborne has both of them as its primary PvE element.
>>336193156
I found that with many enemies, dodging directly into them was the safest option. In fact, the only thing I could not reliably dodge in the game was Ebrietas's charge attack, because it's fucking broken and I can't believe that garbage is in the game.
>>336193586
If I got unlucky enough for him to fire twice it was over. Done. Fuck that thing.
>>336193875
See, I thought that worked pretty well in Bloodborne because of how quickly you can dodge, but it was so fucking irritating in DS3.
>>336193493
Stay close to his horsey nutsack, keep attacking, dodge through his magical girl sword swipes, and get the fuck away from him if he raises his sword for any reason.
On the last note, if his sword is pointing down when he raises it, get the fuck away from him in any general direction. If it's pointing up, get the fuck behind him.
>>336179190
>if I cant cheese the game with shields and magic its not souls
wew lad. its the same fucking game.
>>336194173
this should help, thanks
>>336177978
>Doing Iron Keep
>When you die at the Smelter Demon you have to go through a bunch of knights who will fuck your shit over and have fast attacks.
>You can be knocked in the lava on the bridge
>One knight is ready to rape your boipucci at the boss gate
Well at least it isn't Ninja Gaiden 1 with the tower level.
How popular is the reiterpallasch? Because I think I've fallen in love with this thing since using it to kill the guy with the chaingun in the DLC cave. You know who I'm talking about.
>>336193586
there should have been a trophy for completing eileen's quest
>>336194779
He should have had a proper boss health bar and music.
>>336194779
I hate how all the weapons I want require some bullshit to go through or are really late in the game. And one of them is Eileen's daggers, how the fuck can I get those alot earlier? She's a killing machien at the beginning of the game if you attack her.
>>336195108
Get her to fall off the rafter then pelt her with molotovs. Still gotta get the 40k echoes to buy them though.
>>336193493
Don't panic dodge in the 2nd phase, learned that lesson the hard way
>>336194952
agreed, you had to jump through a lot to get there, they should have done more to make the fight more significant.
>>336195108
You kill her when you first meet, or cheese her in the graveyard by getting her stuck behind gravestones and whipping her to death. Any other time she'll be too difficult to kill legitimately, with the exception of her post-Rom encounter, but you may as well fight the Bloody Crow just to say you did it.
I completed Eileen's questline right after I beat Rom, and the Crow was probably the most unfair fight I had in the entirety of the game, with the exception of Orphan of Kos and a couple of the chalice bosses. Unless you've got the stones to upgrade the Blade of Mercy right away, you'll be relying more on whatever weapon you're using at the time instead of your new acquisition.
Will any other game Trigger as many people as Bloodborne has done for the past year ?
>>336196921
you don't even need to kill her at oedon tomb, if you don't fight henryk at all and trigger the encounter, he'll do it for you.
>>336197423
Really? In my game she kicked his ass. I hit him all of three times because I was afraid of hitting her, and she did plenty of damage on her own. More than I was doing at that level, anyway.
>>336190020
Anyone could do that with enough practice. Souls games are just trial and error, once you know what to do and how to do it the game becomes a breeze.
Don't pretend like you roll a SL1 character and clear it in under 3 hours on your first go whenever a new soulsbourne game comes out.
>>336198178
2 hours actually. My asshole is ten times larger than that of a normal man due a rare genetic condition and also being extremely gay and usually around that time I have to bail all the poo out of my living room
>>336198013
if you don't fight at all or do any damage to him / distract him he should usually win the fight 1 on 1
The stamina/shield/attack gameplay is the best aspect of the souls games and backstab/parry are gimmicks that obsolete several stats in the game, reducing complexity.
>>336203383
Actually the best aspect of the souls games is that there are many viable ways to play the game and they are all very fun. Namaste.
>>336192085
Nobody does that. They google information and run around like idiots.
Felt great clearing out zones in DaS3 and pouring over them for loot/secrets.
>>336177912
You can do that in every Souls game though
>>336181929
I went through DaS, DeS, and DaS2 as a shield baby. Rarely dodging anything I knew I didn't have to. BB forced me to dodge (or parry) everything, so I did.
Then DaS3 came around, and I tried to use a shield, because that's what I did in DaS. But I realized I was just dodging everything and never using my shield for anything except those fucking dogs. DaS3 ended up being a fucking cakewalk for me because of this.
Difficulty wise:
BB > DaS2 > DaS > DaS3 > DeS
Alright let's do this
Central Yharnam >= Undead Burg+Parish > Forest of Giants >>> High Wallhaven't played DeS yet
>>336186494
i ran through half of ds3 on my first playthrough and not i run through 90% of it
>>336203938
the only time a shield really helped me was actually the nameless king, it was easier to tank attacks than to rely on rolling since he was so fast, then when he paused go in for 1-2 hits, youd always be close to him so itd be easy
>>336204874
Boletarian Palace from DeS was actually really good imo. Undead Burg has good level design, but sucks that it's a thematic rehash from DeS. I appreciate FoG for actually being Not Another God Damn Castle.
I never played BB because I am a PC babby this gen.
>>336177912
I've never owned a PS4 or even played BB but I know for a fact this is viable as fuck in DkS III. The run from Bonfire 2 to the church bonfire in Irithyll is just "lets clog the end of you blade with as many meat enemies as possible".
>>336179190
Holy shit I've never seen such a bootyblasted PC cuck go on sperg out more hahahaha
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