Is this Ni-Oh game just a DS clone with artificial difficulty ramped up to 12?
DSP has finished all of the Souls games (a feat accomplished by a minority of the the souls fanbase), and even he is having trouble with this game - he died over 40 times already and it's just a short demo
He finished it pretty early from what I heard.
>>336171291
like, 2 minutes, talk about premature completion
>>336171119
I've heard the controls are kind of jerky.
>>336171119
Do you actually see DSP as an example of a skilled player?
He finished it from what I saw
You know something is wrong when even fighting game legends (the most skillful genre) like DSP is having trouble.
It was probably just getting used to a different game, but it felt very non responsive compared to DaS, and the lock on did jack shit. You would try to back up, just turn around and end up taking a hit to your flank and get one shot.
I wanted to like it, probably going to give release a try, but the demo was pretty shit.
what's artificial about the difficulty?
>>336171743
>a hit to your flank and get one shot.
Oh, he did get one shot, he did. Under two minutes, or so I hear.
>>336171119
Game is pretty fair desu
Of course you will die if you are too scared of an enemy
>>336171560
>a feat accomplished by a minority of the the souls fanbase
>professional award winning fighting game player
Facts and opinions
So yeah, he's a skilled player regardless of my opinion
A bunch of mememasters from /fgg/ thought DSP sucks and challenged him, DSP assfucked them all
>wow it's just a dark souls clone
>why do I die when I play it like dark souls
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>>336171590
>>336171928
DSP MASTURBATED ON STREAM
>>336172006
>minority
>implying
Anyone who played a souls game for more than a few hours is able to beat it
Also he keeps getting banned from FG tourneys, how is he an award winner?
I love how everybody shit talking this game clearly hasn't played it and usually admit they haven't played it.
Its a Dark Souls, in an Onimusha setting, with tight combat controls similar to Ninja Gaiden. pic related
You got until Wednesday to give it a shot.
I personally like it way more than Dark Souls because their is so much depth to the combat and leveling up system.
>>336172463
Kinda wish it had a chargen though
>>336171119
If by short you mean 5-10 hours lmao.
It's a weebmode souls clone with a much lower player survivability and next to no iframes so shitters die more often. You can't shrug off multiple fuckups like you can in souls. It's really not that difficult once you get blocking and chi-regain down.
>>336171119
Come on, it's not THAT difficult. I couldn't beat Ninja Gaiden and I got pretty far in this game so far.
>>336171119
>even he
>>336172227
Achievement statistics don't lie
http://steamcommunity.com/stats/211420/achievements (Just double the numbers for accuracy, since no cheevos on early days)
http://steamcommunity.com/stats/236430/achievements
http://steamcommunity.com/stats/374320/achievements
He won 2005 EVO, the opponent asshurt was so great they still deny it to this day
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>>336172813
>next to no iframes
I don't know, you can literally dash through any attack.
After stop rushing in like a retard into fights and searching for alternate paths for shit this game became a breeze
Then after I got the bow and started headshotting shit it was a walk in the park, all I needed to do was progress using my brain instead of going into direct combat with every single shit that I saw
I can't for the life of me remember to use ki charge tho
>>336172206
http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=UPcxXNV12lw&video_start=90&audio=2nZKDcA6dP4&audio_start=202
>>336173012
>they still deny it to this day
So it's their word against Phil's?
>>336173179
:^)
>le Ni-Oh is Dark Souls meme
It uses elements from Dark Souls, but it's completely fucking different. For starters, you actually need to not be a braindead retard.
>>336172813
Are there reliable ways to handle multiple opponents?
>>336171119
he made it to the second boss, while most people here cant even beat the first area
Even in Action Mode, the frame rate still tanks below 30. Other than that, it gave me the same feels as Demons Souls did when I first played it.
>>336173475
It's their salt against footage of DSP beating their asses
It's not a fucking souls clone, it takes a lot of inspiration from souls but if you try to play this game like a souls game you are going to get your shit pushed in and then cry about how it's too hard and how the controls are clunky
Once you understand that the developers really want to bait you into setting foot into ambushes, you start to play more cautiously and the game becomes a breeze
>>336173595
Use a spear or learn to dodge and block.
>>336171119
The game doesn't even play like Dark Souls so I don't understand why those two get compared.
>>336173595
You need to get some solo time with one while you beat the others off.
>>336171119
>Get hit by a fuck huge axe while wearing nothing
>get one shotted
I didn't see it coming but I wasn't even mad it made sense. I just put on bird spirit and got good/edgy nothin personaled everything,
>>336173947
Every action game gets called "souls-like" by faggots who have just discovered the genre, nothing we can do but get used to it
I just got mark of conqueror. What's in the second level? Another mark for the final game?
>>336173595
Yeah, there's a whole style focusing on wide attacks.
So people are saying that this game is difficult... I've never played any game like this besides Demon's Souls. Are they implying that Dark Souls are easy by comparison?
>>336174203
>bird spirit
my absolute nigger
These niggers don't value going FAST
>>336174371
Just a new level with a fuck ton of Yokai and a boss, you don't get anything from finishing it.
>>336174676
Birdie spirit best spirt lightning is also all right. Fire is ok and shark is for plebs.
FUCKING LIGHTNING DOG BOSS
THIS IS RETARDED I'M SO FUCKIN MAD
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN THE LIGHTNING DOG BOSS, THAT SHOOTS LIGHTNING, RECHARGES VIA GETTING STRUCK BY LIGHTNING, GENERATES LIGHTNING FROM EVERYTHING, AND GLOWS YELLOW, FROM LIGHTNING
ALSO HAS A POISON SNAKE TAIL?
NIGGA FUCK OFF THAT WAS BULLSHIT
>>336173947
It's a Souls clone with a slightly different combat system actually
>>336171119
>need a ps4 to play
Why do devs do this gay shit? how much do people need to be bought off to disallow the masterrace?
>>336174585
>Are they implying that Dark Souls are easy by comparison?
Not really. The MAIN problem with people claiming this game is harder than the Souls series is they are playing the game like Dark Souls. If you try to play this game like Dark Souls then you'll get your ass handed to you.
The games play differently from each other. If you tried playing Demon's Souls like Nioh then you'll get your ass kicked, and vice versa.
>>336174964
Reminds me of DMC combat
>>336174964
How is it a Souls clone?
>>336174897
>holy smokes, I can't get this manticore thing past half health
>I guess I'll summon someone to help
>they always die within five seconds
S H I T T E R S
>>336175012
So then, does Dark Souls play slow or something?
I remember Demon's Souls was much more gimmicky, in that it was harder for you to "skill" your way through.
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>>336175154
Fucking retards, just use your Living Weapons and get him down to half health with it. He isn't hard to defeat
>>336175154
>>336174897
kek, nue is fucking easy. You idiots are just impatient souls fag. Attack his mouth when he's spewing lightning out of it for an instant stagger then heavy attack his ass.
>>336171119
DSP sailed through everything but the boss with around 20 deaths while most people complaining about artifical difficulty couldn't even make it past the beach. The only people complaining are playing this like it is souls and trying to run past enemies ignoring low tier enemies and just in general not paying attention to the games mechanics which it tells you every time you pick up an item and has a menu section if you need to review them.
Playing through the first map actually made me want a ronin simulator in which you kill bandit scum and help defend a small village with 6 other samurai against countless bandits
DSP CAUGHT JERKING IT ON STREAM. YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP.
>>336175010
Shouldn't have made those nude mods for DoA5 fampai
>>336171119
>and even he is having trouble with this game
Didn't actually have that much trouble, he was just baiting
>>336175010
Because team ninja specifically said if you make nude mods for our games we will no longer make games on PC. Then modders made nude mods for their games.
>>336175578
>watching DSP jack it
but why
>>336175346
Yeah, I'm the retard for not expecting the Lightning based boss to suddenly whip out some poison snek tail.
Yeah.
>>336175369
kek, fuck off gayboy. I got him to 1/4 my first go.
>>336174897
Get a hammer and hit him in the face whenever he does his lightning beam breath to insta stagger him and smack him around after that.
>>336175312
>So then, does Dark Souls play slow or something?
Not only that, but Ni-Oh's combat has more options than any of the Soul games, and how you approach things are differently too.
For example; you cannot roll your way to victory in Ni-Oh and you have to rely on different stances to win through battles with 2+ enemies. You won't make it far if you try to win your way through the game back stabbing enemies.
>>336175803
Low key I got kinda hard while watching it
What's wrong with me
>>336173623
>he made it to the second boss
He made it into Nue? Or the demon in the boat?
>>336175012
Explain.
BUGGED EJACULATION MECHANICS
>>336173179
>>336175578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEbHp89iCaM
>>336176171
The yokai isn't a boss
So there are just 2 bosses, the boat one and the one at the second map
>>336171916
I'm not good at it so it's broken.
>>336176190
>play like dark souls
>try to roll behind the enemy
>lose stamina and get combo'd to death
>>336175012
Totally untrue. I used rolling and iframes to roll behind enemies for extra damage and the bow/rocks to pull them away from large groups.
The only thing that's different is the stances and Ki management/timings. The fundamentals are exactly the same. Which isn't to say it's a bad thing, it just invalidates the statements saying the playstyle is totally different.
>>336175869
I guess it's a good thing I never got into DS then, it seems like I would have not liked it. I was so very close to buying Bloodborne before this alpha was available. I just figured I would hate all of the Souls style backtracking. But in Nioh the paths back to the boss are relatively short after you unlock the shortcuts and clear the oni.
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>>336176590
Hmm, doesn't match my experience. I was able to roll and poke just fine like in Darl Souls.
>>336173816
>>336174964
>>336173947
>>336176787
I know that it has some elements in common with souls, but why hasn't anyone compared it to Way of the Samurai.
Obviously it doesn't share the way the story works, but the game play and stances make it feel at least somewhat similar.
The only thing I really disliked was free-running while locked on. If I'm locked on, it's because I want to always face that enemy. Otherwise, why bother? Choosing attack direction while locked on is one thing, but there's just so much that can go wrong when both your character can be facing the wrong direction while locked on and swinging in the wrong direction. Flanking damage only makes it worse. Being forced to maintain a direction while blocking when not locked on also felt clunky, but isn't going to cause many problems.
I'm not really sure if I like the loot system, but it does solve a problem that say Bloodborne had, where there was almost no excitement to finding items since they were almost always just vials, bullets, and echoes.
I'm also really bad about remembering to ki burst, but that's just me being a shitter. Most of the gameplay is fine.
>>336175154
I've been summoned and always die as well. I think the reason people's summons always die is because the lag was fucking atrocious. I got summoned by 4 different players before Nue and the boss was fucking lagging all over the arena making it impossible to dodge, so I die in five seconds and look like a retard.
>>336176738
>iframes
nigga there aren't any iframes in this game
>>336177173
If you walk, you'll always face the enemy when locked on. It doesn't make sense that you can run just as fast backwards as you do forewards.
>>336177220
There are when you get the blue glow right after attacking.
>>336177087
It reminds me most of Ninja Gaiden. The Team Ninja combat is there in all its glory.
>>336171119
> just a DS clone with artificial difficulty ramped up to 12?
No, you just need to get used to its systems. Souls games are equally just as frustrating when you start out and don't know shit. With time you get used to the way NioH does things.
If you played the demo a lot you'd already have gotten used to them
Thinking you would understand NioH just because you are already used to Souls combat is part of the reason you're struggling, because they don't work the same (ki has many more mechanics than stamina) and the timings are different, both in attacking and parrying.
>>336171486
Another common complaint that has no merit. It has more animation locks than Souls games, in this one you are still locked to attack animations but added to that, you are locked to walking/running animations, which doesn't happen in Souls where you instantly can turn around.
It's just a different approach, more akin to monster hunter's movement rather than 1:1 analog stick - to - on-screen movement
In the end the game does have more mechanics your brain needs to keep track of while in battle, compared to Souls. But that doesn't necessarily make it harder, just takes more time to learn/master.
>>336178363
That was a reference to DSP's pre-stream jerk-a-thon. Not, you know... the actual game.
>>336173012
>He won 2005 EVO
You mean the one with the broken ass Street Fighter port?
>>336171119
You know DSP literally gave up in the dlc for bloodborne right? He died 60 times to ludwig and couldn't beat him even with summons. He then just gave up.
He has kens haircut
>>336171119
I beat the second boss like 8 hours in. Git fucking gud.
Wait, you mean you guys are actually able to summon people?
Level 42 now. Just beat Nue and got the Raikiri or whatever. Holy shit this thing is packing over 400 damage with Heart at 20. I am running through the first mission again with this thing and I'm just two shotting all regular mooks, while the ninja oni take about 4~5 hard slashes.
Now I have a flame katana, earth katana, and lightning katana.
>>336179005
i cant blame him if he was in NG+
>>336179005
>He died 60 times to ludwig
I don't believe this for a second. I killed that fag my first try, no summons.
you can change weapons mid combo by pressing r1+circle then left on dpad https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=HPmUPfN33a8
>>336180174
he was in NG+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwSXaVbYfw&feature=youtu.be&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwSXaVbYfw&feature=youtu.be&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwSXaVbYfw&feature=youtu.be&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwSXaVbYfw&feature=youtu.be&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwSXaVbYfw&feature=youtu.be&
I'm currently messing around in the 2nd area and I noticed that the yokai mobs can still attack when their ki in red, did I hallucinate? If not what's the point of them having ki?
>>336181231
When Yokai or bosses run out of ki they can be staggered, not quite the same as human enemies.
>>336171119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_RozZIhig
Game wasn't even that hard. It's just Soulsfags can't adapt. They think Souls is the pinnacle of game design and it is how all games (hard or not) should be designed. So when they play something different, even if the differences are minor, they just cannot deal with it. Which is what is happening with Ni-Oh.
I don't get what's the big deal, besides DSP getting caught in an embarrassingliteralmoment. It's just fapping, It's not worse than that streamer who pretended to be paraplegic, forgot to turn the camera off and got off his wheelchair to walk normally.
kek so DSP got caught jerking on his stream?
>>336183479
Pretty much. Does Jim know yet?
