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>>336157910
>spirit stops working past 10 in demo
What, why?
Post builds you used to defeat Nue.
To the previous guy who responded to me, spirit stops working properly in the demo after level 10 or so.
>>336158009
Spirit mainly affects your spirit guardian. You may have noticed under the spirit guardian screen they have stat boosts that are colored red. Red stat boosts means they are locked and you need to increase your spirit stat. However, the spirit guardians in the demo only allow for stat boosts up to level 10. In the full game you can expect the shark or the fox ect. to have stat boosts that go up to the level cap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU
>>336158020
I went strength and stamina and hit him a with a hammer. Also used kekkai to dispel the yokai realms and sloth to slow him down for more wailing with muh hammer.
Died a couple of times against Boat Oni, almost getting there though. Can't wait to play the second level.
>>336158371
Need any advice?
hourly reminder that dsp beat the first boss on his third try
>>336158218
Does at least the duration and refill work past 10?
>>336158337
>Also used kekkai to dispel the yokai realms
My agility was so high I wasn't even affected by them. I used sloth as well, in addition to fire shuriken which weren't effective against him at all. Sloth really helped hitting his lightning breath attack, but I think the spear by itself would have done the trick anyway. When nue is calling lightning bolts down on your path, you can also sloth him then so that the lightning is much, much slower and hit his yellow belly for an instant stagger.
>>336158449
So far I am using a lightning ichimonji I believe with Kekkai talisman and water talisman. It seems attacking from behind is pretty safe so far.
>>336158280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxGYiFl0G0M
>>336158491
What level?
>>336158371
Go axe, put every point into it
Get sloth
As soon as fight starts you can get him with a rock to stun
Use sloth
Ezmode
POST SONGS YOU LISTEN TO WHEN PLAYING NIOH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4G8eN72Slw
>>336158856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kORT6xLIpTM
>>336158020
wanted to see how much it would increase living weapon regen rate
>>336158780
What does sloth do? I have stopped playing, but I am able to put points in it.
WELL /v/?
ARE YOU A CONQUEROR?
OR ARE YOU CONQUERED?
>>336158646
drink a sacred water, sit next to him the whole time, block while he does the swinging shit and hit him whenever he's not (giving yourself enough time for ki to recover), and once the chains break you can move around baiting his body slam and wrecking him when he uses it or just beat his ass and dodge whenever he attacks
>>336158371
Literally the easiest boss ever. Int he first phase, run pass his forward attacks and block his swing attacks, then in the second phase simply just run away from his throws and grapples, they're so obvious to avoid its amazing people didn't beat him on at least their third try.
>>336159124
>tfw don't find any of them with high def
>I just found out you can change weapons mid combo for cuhrazy shit
>The game never mentions or explains this mechanic
>>336159309
stance change is like the 3rd item pickup, ki impulse like the 5th
>>336159309
>The game never mentions or explains this mechanic
Probably because its fucking obvious and its the devs of ninja gaiden?
>>336159230
second boss is easier in my opinion, bigger area so all of his attacks are easy as fuck to dodge
>>336159309
got a youtube vid of that webm?
>>336159230
P1 fucks me over with his circle swings, P2 fucks me over when he regains Ki and instantly jumps and kills me.
>>336159230
I am pretty damn average at games though... I even have a hard time beating games like God of War..
>>336158218
Not true, Shark has an effect at level 12 which works when you get to it. Spirit also strengthens your Guardian Spirit in general and Raikiri scales with it as well as some accessories.
>>336159487
>circle swings
If you're near the boss when he's doing his circle swings, you're going about it all wrong. You just need to be patient and wait for the boss to fall over.
>instantly jumps and kills me
Once again, just wait for the lightning breath and hit him in the face. Instant stagger. Also you can instant stagger him by hitting his belly during the lightning storm attack, but its riskier.
>>336159487
You can block the chain when he does the spin, the second phase you just have to be more careful and watch for his leap attack, once you dodge it he's left wide open. Maybe using low stance more would help.
>>336159376
That is stance change not weapon change.
Stance change - R1 and any of the stance buttons.
Weapon change - R1+O+Left.
If you try to press left mid combo nothing will happen but if you do that command it changes instantly. This is never mentioned.
https://youtu.be/HPmUPfN33a8?t=521
Great game but the tutorial is poor.
>>336157910
>finally a game I am pretty good at
Feels pretty good.
>>336160209
Go away DSP
>>336160158
>the tutorial is poor.
literally just the play the game and find out interesting shit on your own, you spoonfed scrublord
>>336159718
I dodge his attack, he sits there for a few seconds, I hit him, he gets up, I retreat, he hits me in the back with his swung.
>>336160039
I do that but he eventually loses Ki and I stagger him but he gets it back at one point and before I even finish my attack he instantly jumps and kills me.
>>336158020
Why are skill and dexterity two different stats?
ask me anything about japanese history and mythology
Had more fun with a 5 hour beta than all of dark souls 3
The combat is deep, gameplay is great and monster design is fantastic.
How are people finding Ninja gaiden souls
>>336160631
The stats are poorly named. Dexterity should really be called ninjutsu. Skill is basically what you'd expect dexterity to be.
Make sure you ask Team Ninja to change the stat's names, they're really bad.
>>336160631
Precise, graceful movements versus fast, tricky hands.
>>336158856
>POST SONGS YOU LISTEN TO WHEN PLAYING NIOH
The Nioh soundtrack is actually good and one thing I like about it over the Soulsborne games is how it has ambient music.
That said, I guess this would fit pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j-70nF3-qg
>>336160937
why is that william causes illusions of himself when he dodges occasionally but some other times he simply steps out of the way? something to do with stances or weight? does it have any gameplay reason other than a neat particle effect?
>tfw died to the first 3 enemies in the demo multiple times
i don't think this game is for me
>>336160937
Low stance has the best dodge, try doing the same in high stance.
>>336161067
>The Nioh soundtrack is actually good
uh what? the game has music? any youtube videos of the songs in nioh, I literally don't remember a single time a song played.
>>336161163
that's how everyone felt in the beginning. This shit is wonderful 101 all over again for me. First 30 minutes I'm just like what the fuck am I doing. Two hours later, I'm speeding through the demo one shotting onis and shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LojH3rFw0
>>336160158
A tutorial isn't supposed to specifically outline each and every possible action and circumstance. It gives you the basics of the game's systems so that you can apply them yourself in different ways and discover how the game works.
>>336161335
>uh what? the game has music? any youtube videos of the songs in nioh, I literally don't remember a single time a song played.
see >>336159074
The game feels strange. Probably just an alpha thing. Everything feels so sharp movement-wise.
>>336161157
Ki pulse, son.
>>336160480
Try not to go in so hard with attacks and keep some Ki left over for when he recovers. If you've seen it enough you'll learn as well when he's about to recover so you can back up sooner too.
>>336161163
I had the same problems. Now I run through motherfuckers.
If you are playing it like souls, stop. It plays nothing like a souls game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbLCjLqdOJo
this game and okami are YOOOOOOOO as fuck
>>336161163
If you still want to play it, the game is certainly for you. Just take your time and learn how to play. Once you put on some armour you'll be fine.
>>336160158
Damn underworld spirits look cool.
I want to be an invader with a nega-aura too, /v/, pls tell me that will happen.
give me a challenge I should do with the demo
>>336161934
fists only, heaviest armor you can find
>>336160718
Dark Souls 3 feels stale as fuck to me. Every time I boot it up and see a dog I want to neck myself. Cant fucking stand the rehashing anymore.
>>336161934
Fist only. Parry every human and kill them like that.
>>336161970
sounds fun, ill record myself fighting the boat boss
are there any neat hand tricks I can do against the boat boss? Like, william can catch swords, but can he catch the rocks or anything like that? I know he's only human, but japs think whities are gods or something, so who knows.
Never played a dark souls game or anything siimlar, so Ni-oh is my first foray into the 'hardcore' action game. I kept dying to Nue for over an hour. I was so frustrated and angry I wanted to quit so many times. But then it happened. I don't know how, but I ran into the boss area as usual after respawning at east shrine, then BAM. Nearly perfect run. Got hit like only thrice the whole fight and I finally took the fucker down. I feel like I got a bit gud today.
>>336162150
Guess is time to find out anon.
>mfw anon comes back with all sorts of new bare fist parries and techniques making fists the most op build in the game
>>336161329
you can when sheathed otherwise you get fatrolls
>>336159309
It's in the upgrade tree. You're just unobservant.
>>336159117
Sloth makes the enemy move slow. Makes sweeps far more manageable and you can get WAY more hits to drain their stamina
>>336160158
>8:41
LUNAR
STAFF
NEVER
DIES
The skill tree needs to be reworked with sub categories in stances.
>Doesnt matter how experienced I am if I fuck up 1 move I am 1 shotted
Is like I really am playing Bushido Blade. I thought the double damage from the back only applied to enemies but a ronin just did 1,500 damage to me while I was wearing full armor.
>>336160158
Why is this guy so pro and I am so shit?
>>336158669
35Just kidding, I have no idea
>>336162876
>fagbois always complaining about boobyarmor and shit not being realistic enough
>getting cut in half is too realistic dou
>>336158280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJfNBmF5C0
>>336158856
>Tokyo Drifter
People playing Nioh have some fine taste
>>336161335
>>336161684
I'm still dying to the first two guys after like half an hour. I just cant fight multiple guys at once.
I really like this game but I wish I didn't have to be some white haired witcher faggot.
Why can't we just make our own dudes? I hope there's at least other characters to choose from in the final product.
>>336160158
oh thats pretty cool,
hopefully you can just set R1+O as default weapon swap unless you hold it
>fist parry axe
>he stabs him with the fucking axe
this nigga is hardcore
>>336163513
If you're that much of a bitch that dislike playing western characters then feel free to leave feedback on on Koei Tecmo's page requesting for custom characters.
>>336163513
show some fucking respect to williamsama
>>336163627
I see now, so instead of just mashing heal like souls games your expect to literally cancel recovery animation with R1+O
>>336162442
looks like the mortal draw
>>336163684
>kick someone on the ground
>their fucking head pops off
this nigga is HARD CORE
Spear > Katana > Axe
![Vergil-vergil-29329265-900-900[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eBgYpVC.jpg "Vergil-vergil-29329265-900-900[1]")
>>336163897
>doesn't allow you to backstep into iai
>>336164232
>yet
>>336163513
>Why can't we just make our own dudes?
You mean make your own bland character?
What would it add to the game if you played as a fat bald black guy that looks like a disney villain?
>>336163513
>whining about not being able to create your own character
jesus christ, is this what modern gamers are like?
>>336164458
nevermind actually you can but it's not great
Damn Nue was disappointing as hell.
People hyped him up but I had a way easier time with him than the other the other SMT starter demon.
>>336164717
when you make a souls like people are going to be mad that features from soulsborne games are absent like character creaters
>>336164849
people care about souls terrible character creator?
>>336164849
>implying this game is a """"soulslike""""
That's how you can tell which people started playing video games last gen
>>336164920
this so much
>>336164849
>game shares some similarities with souls games
>"why isn't x feature in???"
The character creation adds nothing, especially in the Souls games. Not only is your character covered up or looks like a raisin almost constantly, but there is borderline 0 roleplay and your gender/race/etc changes nothing.
Dragon's Dogma at least made your gender and size matter a little bit.
Come at me you nerds. Do my opinions trigger you? I hope so.
>>336165413
>Music
>Normal
has anyone seen a level 30+ grave on the beach, just curious
>>336165413
>comment on the story in a demo focused on gameplay and then suggests character creation because dark souls has it
>>336165645
It was generic as fuck.
Two questions, my fellow conquerors:
a. Is there any way to get to the world map without using one of those items?
2. Is anyone else having a problem with the boss(es) loading while playing coop? I've been trying to help other people on the first chapter, but the two times they've walked onto the boat, I get stuck on the loading screen for several minutes before closing the game.
This is literally my face right now.
How do I get good? If I fight more than one enemy at a time I get fucking ruined.
I tried to play this for 30 minutes and just gave up. It seems cool and I'll pick up the full game, but holy shit what a poorly put together demo. Seems like the entire thing was designed around PRETTY HARD RIGHT? HARDER THAN DARK SOULS!
Except all it is is learning how to kite enemies. That's it. Hopefully the full game is better.
>>336166179
Spears bruh
https://youtu.be/HPmUPfN33a8?t=107
>>336166179
Use midstance axe or spear as they are great for crowd control. Also learn how to parry with mid stance katana as it makes fighting muliple enemies a little easier.
Also dark souls rules apply so git gud at pulling single enemies with stones and bows. This is a methodical game and if you fuck up it punishes you for not clearing an exit and making sure that there is no one behind you.
>>336166420
nerf pls
Had to take a break because workout and work but when do you get any armor? Being 2 shot fucking feels bad man. Also how do the spirit things work?
>>336166262
just skip the full game, so we dont have to listen to your crying when it comes out
How do you get summoned as a visitor by someone else?
>Barely beat the cyclops oni guarding nue entrance
>Feel satisfied
>So rush in
>Fuck i'm outta of healing items
>He gets me with that roll attack
>Literally at 20 health at the beginning of the fight
>Fuck it I'm going through with it
> Keep blocking his attacks and dodging his lighting
>get him to middle of his health
>Stagger him and use that spirit dolphin
>rekt his ass like no tomorrow
Fuck not even dark souls gave me this feeling of accomplishment but damn I might be bying this game
>>336166558
Why? They are perfectly balanced and take a lot of time to master.
>>336166790
On the mission map select a mission and press square to use match making.
>>336166179
Listen, negroid. Focus on one weapon, imo, and learn skills and upgrade that weapon's abilities.
I focused on katana: Learning "kick" was one of the best decisions I made; it takes their ki and pushes them back. Also both types of parries, and pretty much threw everything I could into mid-stance skills. I also got the crazy high-stance finisher and upgraded high-stance a bit for times when I want to sneak up on enemies and knock them out quickly.
Get some ninjutsu and magic too. I recommend shurikens for pulling.
When I am so fortunate as to aggro more than one enemy at a time, that's when the parries come in handy the most. Better practice those.
I threw a bunch of levels on the top two stats (the ones that focus on life and ki).
When you get past the miniboss, use the surroundings of the following shrine as a place to grind a little bit while you practice combat.
I guess I'm the only one having issues with loading the boss in coop. Shit suck!
Also, where is this survey everyone keeps talking about?
>>336166009
>>336161684
>didn't parry
>didn't block
>didn't ki regen R1 thing that I literally couldn't figure out
>didn't spirit weapon thing since i kept forgetting
still got through the demo by pure force. and axe.
>>336167184
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_us
>Finished the entire demo without using my guardian spirit living weapon abilityhow do i use it?
>>336167348
triangle and circle
the game literally tells you in the first area
>>336157910
Just made it to the second Why is everyone saying YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in these threads? What does "Don't watch an anime called Boku" have to do with this game?
https://youtu.be/1fjX-OXl0pk
>>336166262
Please refer to
>>336160158
>youtube
>THE DARK SOULS OF NINJA GAIDEN HAHA xD
what the fuck happened
>>336167329
Thank you, child.
Are you supposed to get another DLC after you defeat Nue? I got Mark of the Conqueror but after that, nothing.
>>336167461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU
>>336166179
Pick a weapon, learn it, upgrade the skillsand stats for it.
Invest minimally in ninjutsu for fire shurikens.
Invent minimally in magic for the anti-yoki barriers.
After that, do as you will.
Weapon change mid combo doesnt work. How do you do it?
>>336167572
No. Just the accomplishment of being a conqueror.
Game is a lot more fun than I thought it would be.
>>336158856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJPyuL_rzwg
>>336167747
>Invent minimally in magic for the anti-yoki barriers.
Just ki pulse, use the slot for caltrops or something
>>336166760
Do you really think the demo had good enemy placement with the level design? It was literally designed to be "oh can't go here because I get fucked by multiple guys, guess I'll go here". It was Fallout New Vegas levels of nonsense.
>>336167521
I appreciate it, I already looked into similar stuff. The shitty level design of the demo wouldn't be so bad if they at least had more information regarding combat techniques (for example, a dummy mode for you to test stances and skills on), but its like DaS2 powerstancing times 10. Needlessly shitty and obtuse.
But yeah I'm going to be getting the game because it seems like its just a case of a garbage demo.
>>336167631
> Beat a boss
> do one of the kabuki gestures
YOOOOOOOOOO
>>336167996
you're just playing it like a retard
stop running ahead and pulling multiple enemies for no reason
use your bow and be more careful
>>336167406
I remember seeing something saying living weapon but forgot about it somehow.
>>336168147
>you're just playing it like a retard
That's amazing, please give me some tips.
>stop running ahead and pulling multiple enemies for no reason
Oh you mean like how I was playing it? Like how I addressed that was a major issue I had? Let's see what I wrote:
>>336166262
>Except all it is is learning how to kite enemies.
Eat shit dude, the demo was garbage and was literally just about pulling enemies.
>>336167996
>Do you really think the demo had good enemy placement with the level design?
I thought it was pretty good, yes.
If you have trouble managing multiple enemies you can aggro them one by one with shuriken, rocks, arrows, etc.
With good awareness you can always spot or hear them before they attack. I can't think of a single enemy placement I thought was bullshit.
>>336167951
Shit, they do the same thing?
>>336168414
I guess bullshit was a poor word. Tedious is a better one.
>>336168389
>stop playing like a retard and pulling multiple enemies
>BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING DONT TELL ME TO STOP
then stay retarded
>>336168575
Are you illiterate? Do you not understand what the quoted post says?
>>336168389
> game encourages you to play smart and not like an idiot
> even tells you in the death screen that you should play smart and not be a fool
> WHY CAN'T I RETARD RUSH EVERY ENEMY?!
You're just bad.
There's literally only one spot in the entire first stage where enemy congestion becomes a problem, and even then only two of the enemies are awake and dual trigger. The easiest solution being a drop attack and activating your spirit guardian to just slaughter them.
>>336168389
>sucking ass at the game
>comes into a thread about the game to whine and call it shit
you're literally deluding yourself that it's the game's "fault" and not yours. there are countless ways to fight and deal with multiple enemies with the stances and new moves you can learn.
if you have this much trouble accepting that you're bad then really, don't play it.
>>336167749
Pls respond
>>336168575
>>336168775
You guys realize I was kiting enemies one at a time, right? Your advice is just silly and you seem massively triggered about me not needing it, because I was already doing that. I just got bored.
>>336168798
>here are countless ways to fight and deal with multiple enemies
Such as?
>>336168850
I think is a skill you learn like this anon said >>336162482
>>336168568
>Tedious is a better one.
How is it tedious? Once you get the bow (which you get early) you can even headshot enemies for often OHKO.
You don't even need to pull enemies one by one, but you can do it if you feel you need to.
>>336168389
Pull enemies one by one when possible, which is most of the time. Groups are difficult as hell.
Don't square up too often, be agile and on the move always. Be aware of your ki bar, switching stances/dodging in low stance restore ki and avoids the stamina stun. You have little to no Iframes when dodging, learn the hitboxes of attacks as some attacks can be dodged "through" do to the hitbox. Generally, dodge away from the attack, or behind the enemy as they are starting.
>>336168950
>WTF THIS GAME IS TOO HARD
>LOL I DIDNT NEED ANY HELP I WAS JUST BORED XD
>>336168950
You're just proving you're bad yo. If you're kiting that means you can't kill them in one combo. You probably can't aim either since every group has at least one dude without a helmet which is a guaranteed one hit kill with an arrow.
Quit being ass and learn how to play the game.
>>336168389
Pulling one enemy at a time is smart, but it isn't necessary. Fighting 2+ enemies at once just ups the difficulty enormously.
>>336168950
>Such as?
Swapping to mid or low stance for horizontal attacks, dodging, counters, positional moves (repositions you or the enemy), aoe moves, stun/knockdown moves, perfect guard, etc.
>>336169228
No, I was specifically asking for help. Your advice was just silly and not needed.
>>336169098
Because it seemed like it was just constant throughout everywhere I went. I just got tired of it.
>You don't even need to pull enemies one by one, but you can do it if you feel you need to.
See, I'm actually getting confused now, because I keep hearing from people to pull enemies one at a time. Like, that's the main advice I've gotten (which I was using in the demo). But I'm also frequently told that groups are easy to handle as well. Which seems silly, because everyone in this thread seems to also acknowledge how difficult group fights can be just look at the poster below you).
So what am I supposed to do against groups aside from dodging constantly and getting in the ocassional cheap shot? Why should I NOT fight enemies slowly and methodically? Group combat seems really stacked against you in the demo.
>>336168995
Theres no skill for it ive searched all the skill trees
>>336168950
There are lots of safe moves. Axes and spears have enough range to hit multiple enemies and you can often get them lined up so they don't surround you. The AI has trouble handling the mid stance katana poke in particular.
If you quickly get tired of kiting enemies and playing the game in a stealthy manner then maybe more straight forward action games are more your thing.
>>336168437
Yes but I would still use kekkai instead. It also increases ki regen by a shit ton and dispels those yokai realms just by stepping in them which kakes them great for bosses that summon them a lot like nue.
>>336165413
>>336165720
this. wtf. the story is most likely purposely left out or not even in yet.
>>336169712
Yeah there is. It's usually for high stance and says something to the effect of "switching stances at the right time will do a ki pulse"
>>336169705
>See, I'm actually getting confused now, because I keep hearing from people to pull enemies one at a time.
Why are you letting people tell you how to play instead of playing it yourself?
Yes if you absolutely can't deal with multiple enemies then keep pulling them one by one or get better at the game and try harder.
Or do you need to be told in detail how to play every single game you play? When you play Dark Souls do you read up on a wiki, 4chan or whatever constantly?
>>336169748
>If you quickly get tired of kiting enemies and playing the game in a stealthy manner then maybe more straight forward action games are more your thing.
So you're saying I should focus more on kiting people and avoid group combat even with axes and spears? I guess that applied for the demo, but hopefully the full game isn't so monotonous.
Can somebody edit this image with Nioh
>>336169851
You're thinking of the sword skill that gives you extra Ki for switching stances after doing a Ki Pulse.
is it me or the protag looks like geralt?
>>336169851
You mean flux? Doesn't do anyyhing
>>336170497
Just you famalamadingdong. Only you.
>>336170282
If you can't handle fighting multiple enemies then use your tools to thin them out first, but if you're good enough you can fight multiple enemies at once just fine. It's just more dangerous, as it always is and should always be.
>>336170280
>Why are you letting people tell you how to play instead of playing it yourself?
Because I'm asking for advice after being pretty disappointed in the demo? I didn't get very far, and I was open to feedback. Am I just supposed to not comment on a game I'm interested in?
>Yes if you absolutely can't deal with multiple enemies then keep pulling them one by one or get better at the game and try harder.
This is pretty interesting. I keep hearing people say I need to pull enemies one at a time, and yet you're telling me that I need to get better at the game so I can deal with multiple enemies. Which is it? Is the game designed to be a stealth game or an action game? If both are viable, great, but it seems like a recipe in tedium in what I played. Again, I think that's more of the level design and enemy placement for a demo that was designed to be "notoriously difficult", though.
>
Or do you need to be told in detail how to play every single game you play?
When the game is obtuse about key gameplay elements I don't see how its a bad thing to ask for tips. Or are you really so ignorant that you haven't seen how many people are struggling with knowing about shit like this:
>>336160158
I think its pretty amusing that people are getting so upset with me over issues I had with the demo.
>>336170474
You mean just replacing the black text of Dark Souls with the black text of Nioh? Are you serious?
How do I regen ki by using kipulse?
I keep changing stance at the right time but it seems there's no additional ki happening?
Sorry, just started my demo. Noob here.
>>336170740
>Because I'm asking for advice after being pretty disappointed in the demo?
Advice over dissapointment? That's retarded.
You either like it and want to get better at it or you don't like it and getting better at it is pointless.
You're sitting here complaining and whining over trying to get better, which you would do if you actually found the game interesting.
>>336167749
The youtube description says its after a combo ended which is like 3 or 4 hits later. Then you do the command.
Also fuck google captcha and their disappearing rivers. Fucking annoying.
Aight, so I've returned from going fists-only, heavy armor-only. Obviously these two things don't flow so well together because fists-only is usually best for a fast, stamina build, but I think I can safely say that, despite instant killing people with parries, fist-only is ass in this game. There's no easy way to deal with onis and other yokai going fist only. I've gotten to the third shrine and killed two onis since I last posted (>>336162150).
This is how I would describe going fist only in this game. Imagine Metal Gear Solid 3 where all the bosses have a stamina meter in addition to their health meter. There are multiple ways in MGS3 to knock down the stamina meter but the most common way is simply using the tranq gun. Now imagine every single common mook in the game were MGS3 bosses and the only way you can kill them is by using your tranq gun to tick down your stamina. Now imagine having five bosses fighting you at once, all with their own stamina.
Don't get me wrong, going fist only in this game is pretty cool because it really changes what the game is like. Its really not about dealing damage with fists, but about taking away the enemy's stamina enough to whip out a flurry of combos when the enemy has ran out of breath, more so than weapon builds. But I've tried to parry every attack an oni can dish out and nothing works.
also, this is really weird, but you drain stamina faster with fists. Perhaps its because I'm using heavy armor mainly, but fists has no ki pulse, which I got really used to using to continue combos.
>>336170740
You can do both since there are a lot of cc moves and you can switch weapons mid combo
>>336170928
Watch your Ki after you attack. You'll see a white bar fill up before it starts recovering for real. When you hit R1 you'll do the Ki Pulse and recover it up to where the white bar was. There's a bit of timing to it so you can get the maximum amount of Ki, and if you do it perfectly you dispel those pools of dark energy that Yokai leave behind.
>>336170928
When you use an attack, look at your bar. There will be a red segment that will fill up rapidly with a white bar. Pressing R1 will fill up that white portion. If you do it on a low stance, you get an automatic ki pulse from dodging.
>>336170928
When the blue particles form a circle around the protag you press R1. If you time it correctly you will regain all stamina/ki and get a blue silhouette effect around william
https://youtu.be/ONfUQ_eTOF8?t=16s
You can also look at the stamina/ki bar and time it once the white meter fills up.
How do you summon a visitor?
I placed the cups at the shrine, and it says that i am currently offering cups, but beyond that nothing ever happens.
Do i need to look for something specific like summon signs?
>white person in feudal japan
>>336171750
Are you in the second level?
>>336171880
kinda like real life
>>336170740
Both are viable. People are acting the way they are because it was very obvious you didn't get very far and you seem totally dismissive of the game and it's systems before even trying to learn them. A few people have been like this and start blaming the game instead of looking at the mechanics and what they might be doing wrong, then learning how to play the game.
>>336158856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egX56yiZ2WY
>>336171058
Don't forget it's contradictory whining.
> It's stupid because LOL HARDER THAN SOULS RIGHT?
Only it's just souls players bitching that they can't play it like souls. The game encourages you to play smart.
> Oh but that's boring!
Is it hard or boring? Who the fuck knows. Apparently it's really easy though so that contradicts the first bitching all together.
> it's obtuse!
Yet it explains mechanics better than souls games ever did. With voice over and text every time you need to use a certain mechanic for the first time, videos to see how attacks work, a combo list available with customization, and an encyclopedia in the menu to review any mechanics you might have missed or need a refresher on.
If Souls had this level of transparency people would be bitching that Souls is being casualized and hand holding.
>>336171923
No first, on my second character.
Thought i'd try out the coop while trying to make a magic build
>>336171750
You just place a cup and do whatever, eventually if it finds someone they'll join your game. I just started playing so maybe you'll get me but I'll be sticking to the second level mostly since I'd make the first one too easy.
I got a lvl 43 Raikiri in my first Nue try fap fap fap fap
>>336157910
would this game satisfy me as a katana enthusiat?
>>336172451
Yes.
>>336172134
Souls combat isn't deep whatsoever so there's no reason to show you a fucking video of how to do a fucking light attack, so i don't understand what the fuck you're talking about.
>>336172451
Go back to /v/eddit
>>336172451
Yes, you can also steal birthdays.
>>336172140
Summoning never worked for me on the 1st level, I don't know if you can or not but I doubt it.
>>336172451
Very much so.
>>336172451
You can take every motherfuckes birthday.
>>336171058
>Advice over dissapointment? That's retarded.
How so? I figured I was missing something.
>You either like it and want to get better at it or you don't like it and getting better at it is pointless.
You realize its possible to like a game and admit the demo was pretty shitty, right? I love the Etrian Odysey games but they Untold 1 has a beyond shit demo.
>You're sitting here complaining and whining over trying to get better, which you would do if you actually found the game interesting.
No, actually, I'm discussing Nioh and complaining about the issues I had with the demo. You're the one whining about my posts without contributing to Nioh discussion.
>>336171193
See, switching weapons midcombo would have been a great thing to have in the demo beyond a loading screen message. This is good stuff, thanks.
>>336172054
>People are acting the way they are because it was very obvious you didn't get very far and you seem totally dismissive of the game and it's systems before even trying to learn them.
People can't read since I've said multiple times I'm getting the game anyways and want to play more. Pretty disappointed to see spergs like this:
>>336172134
But what can you expect, its /v/.
>/v/ complains about forced tutorials
>game doesnt have a forced tutorial
>WTF THIS GAME IS TOO HARD FUCKING SHIT GAME
>>336172773
The demo is a forced tutorial, though. Just a badly designed one.
So what were your suggestions for the game /v/?
What skills am I boosting if I want to use spears? Also why do almost all the learned skill involve blocking? Why would I waste 1/3 of my ki to block and do something when I could easily sidestep and just attack their backs?
>>336172841
Right, sure it is.
>>336172630
You weren't contributing from the start. All you've done is say something is stupid, or bad, or whined. Then when it's pointed out that the game itself tells you shit in various places you just ignore it then say the game doesn't tell you it.
freed from this mortal coil
>>336172890
If i remember correctly they scale the most with body just check and see what gets the most boosts when you level something.
I hope they add some more guardians
>Graceful Koi
>Tiger
>Dragon
>Thousand year old Turtle
As for armours?
I want some fucking geta and go full Heihachi
>>336158856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hySoCSoH-g8
>>336172841
Or you suck at videogames. It's okay, don't worry, go play some cod or candy crush.
>>336158491
Thats not all he beat
>>336172841
It's designed very well actually. Your first encounter is a lone enemy with plenty of room to move so you can learn the basics. Then the next enemies you see are one with his back turned to you and a slower but heavier hitting enemy so you can both learn to ambush enemies and deal with a new form of attack. Then afterwards you fight a spear wielder in a narrow path, showing the importance of your location, and following that, an enemy ambush teaches being further aware of your surroundings and choosing when and where to attack. I could go on but hopefully people get the picture.
Try using mid stance spear and only use triangle repeatedly on every enemy. It's retardedly strong
Beat the entire demo solo, my only issue is the speed that weapons and armor degrade, I'm assuming that in the full game there will be some sort of store where you can buy the glue and whetstones to fix this issue a little.
Welp I did a shitty job
>>336173452
Probably. There isn't anything to use your money on at the moment besides switching blessings.
>>336173002
>You weren't contributing from the start
No, I was talking about Nioh every single post.
>All you've done is say something is stupid, or bad, or whined.
Says the guy whining. If you don't like my posts, report them. Just because I didn't like the demo doesn't mean I'm not allowed to post about Nioh. Also since I'm getting the game, you better get used to me posting.
>>336159124
I am a conqueror, got the mark to prove it
Fun game, but what is up with the performance/visuals? Neither on Action mode nor Movie mode it runs as well as it should, especially in the burning village before Onryoki.
I like that we can choose between prioritizing either FPS or resolution, but it seems like no matter what is picked, both are garbage.
Good gameplay, though.
>>336173452
Once you start offering things, durability becomes a nonissue, but there'll almost certainly be a shop to buy things from as well as a blacksmith to fix stuff.
>>336159124
I'm a conqueror just like DSP
>>336159124
I'm a conqueror.
dont mind me just posting the objectively good souls game
>atleast 5k people got the mark of the conqueror
What is your excuse?
>>336173779
>mfw beating onryoki
>>336174275
>atleast 5k people
wow, that's really fucking low compared to the 30 million ps4 owners. I know most ps4 owners are casual af, but I think it has more to do with the demo being impossible to find on the psn coupled with the lack of any big announcement. Anyway, how do you know 5k people go it? does it say on the downloads page?
>>336174275
I was busy with school and I would rather play Dark Souls 3.
>>336173508
you did
well done on being a cumdrinking, brainwashed peon too
>>336174451
it shows the amount of how many people *liked* the dlc
it was at 200 when i got it
I get to keep the mark if I delete the demo after it stops being available right?
>>336174751
Yes.
>>336173508
Is this really the face of the /v/ Nioh fanbase? Jesus Christ, at least clean up the lines and border.
>>336174751
I would assume so, since it's a separate thing you download.
Also I'm pretty sure water element's status effect lowers defence, that's another one to the list.
>>336172451
movie name?
This demo is the best game of the year so far. No other game has such satisfying combat, only Bloodborne comes close.
How do i beat the first boss
>>336175936become a conqueror
>>336175936
Don't get hit and hit it till it dies. You gotta be more specific about what's beating you.
siiiigh
now I have to dust off the ps4, ew ew ew
When will the demo become unavailable?
>>336176757
6th
>>336176109
>>336176757
the demo ends an May 5th.
>>336157910
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1dlnqYUEZw
>>336176943
What you cant play a singleplayer game after may 5th?!
>>336177000
fucking lol
>>336177021
You have to be online to play
>>336177021
>always online mandatory
gee I wonder why
>>336177159
>>336177157
Wow very souls like
that IS artificial difficulty
>>336177021
It's a limited time alpha demo.
>>336177281
wow nice meme, son. Where can I subscribe to your meme blog?
>>336177021
because it's a limited time demo
>>336177386
send me an msn messenger invite
>>336177453
wow so retro. Does it have an rss feed as well?
>>336171880
>based off real life events
>>336157910
>first run through tried to avoid katanas as much as possible since those weapons are gay as fuck
>struggle through most of the demo, but beat both areas
>decide to try again but this time use only katanas
>everything is easy as piss
It's not even that I know what I'm doing now, all I do is mash square in mid stance and hit r1 occasionally, and anything that isn't a yokai or some mega-cock in huge armor gets stunlocked. Another game where katanas are OP pieces of shit, great.
>just realize there's a path to avoid ninja oni
bravo TN they though about speedrunners
>>336177538
Haha, yeah xD
Gomenasai /v/. Ken-sama here helping you become 1000 folded conqueror. Here's the easiest methods for defeating the bosses in the nioh demo.
>Onryoki
Heavy equipment tends to be the best against him. Onryoki is slow, his moves are quite obvious, but he deals a lot of damage with every hit. Talking mainly about his first phase at the moment: although it may not seem like it, most of his attacks can actually be blocked. His spin attack can be fully blocked with a heavy weapon. There will be chip damage I believe, but its nothing to what it could be. The reason why rolling is bad in this case is because Onryoki has two balls on chains he swings, so if you roll pass the first, the second one -- which has weird timing -- will likely hit you. If you're not going for a heavy build, the best thing to do is to run directly behind him at all times. His swing attack is mid ranged, but doesn't hit at low ranged. So if you're essentially hugging him, he shouldn't be able to hit you too easily. Even if you're right next to him, don't just wail on him, allow him to attack first, avoid it if you need to, and then attack. There's no time limit with bosses, so if you feel unsafe attacking after the boss does a particular attack, simply don't.
After a few hits, Onryoki gets into his second phase which is so much easier. Instead of hugging him, you actually want to be as far as possible from Onryoki as you can get. He has a devastating grapple move, which if he misses with, he'll fall on his back for a long, long time, allowing you to deal tons of damage on him, and likely stagger him. The other reason you want to stay back during this part is because Onyroki will begin throwing his balls at you, which are way likelier to hit if you're near him.
>>336177756
Maybe it's just you're bad and stick to one stance. Obviously that's not the case though since you showed such great deduction with your explanation.
>>336178142
>Nue
When nue appears, do not attack it right away. It causes a lightning bolt to appear in its position, which could easily be an instant kill. Similar to phase 2 of Onryoki, all you have to do is stay back. Going light with the armor is better for this fight because you will be running a lot, and running over yokai mist, which will stop your stamina from regenerating. Nue is much more easier to punish than Onryoki, but there's higher risk in attempting to stagger Nue. There's two attacks Nue does that opens him up. First, the easier attack to punish is when Nue spews lightning breath out of his mouth. Simply run to the side the lightning isn't at and attack Nue's face. Its easy to run yourself into the lightning breath, so use a spear for range. The other attack is riskier. When Nue calls lightning bolts onto your position, he'll take a stance that exposes his yellow underbelly. Hit his underbelly a few times and his attack will stop and he'll be staggered. The reason why this is risky is because while hitting his underbelly a lightning bolt will likely hit you. In order to avoid the lightning, the best thing to do is to slow down Nue with the slow down magic spell. If nue isn't doing either of these attacks, run away from it. Nue also has an attack that if he misses, he'll fall over, but he recovers way quickly from that. You don't want to be near Nue for too long due to his spin attack, his claw attack, his bite attack, and his poison. All of which are his most damaging moves -- funny that his lightning attacks are actually pretty weak in comparison.
Now, of course for both of these bosses, there are some flashy ways to deal with them, but this guide is the most "basic" way of handling them.
found a damn good player on youtube, should I link it here?
>>336178181
>katanas are too good because the player is too bad
what
>>336178306
is it you
>>336178306
uh, who asks? just do it
>>336178306
No, e-celeb garbage stay away.
>>336178142
Thanks Ken-sama. I was using light equipment for dat speed.
>>336178142
>>336178235
Arigatou Ken-sama
>>336178421
>>336178429
>>336178480
no it's not me or an e-celeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3vNJtixqXg
>>336178142
>If you're not going for a heavy build, the best thing to do is to run directly behind him at all times.
quick edit, if you're going for a LIGHT build. heavy builds can stand in front of him and hold block
>keep dying when summoned due to idiocies
Fuck, well I might as well drop demo, least I got nue down.
Real embarrassing.
>>336178581
uh, that's just some really average gameplay. Am I suppose to be impressed or something? Like, that is how you SHOULD be playing.
vid related is the only impressive nioh gameplay so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmUPfN33a8
So I just booted up the game again to test this hidden weapon change mechanic and I figured it out. Basically it is almost same as changing stances mid combo but instead of changing to Low, Mid or High you are going to switch to ''Unsheathe'' which is the O and when the character glows white signaling you changed stances and got the ki burst you quickly press Left to change the weapon. The game tells you how to change stances mid combo but it never tells you can do this crazy thing.
After a combo
R1+O to change stance to Unsheathe and a second later press left and keep attacking. Pressing all 3 buttons at the same time will not work it has to be R1+O first.
Cannot wait to see crazy combo videos now.
>>336179181
I always thought having that circle option to unequip your sword was weird because the character does it automatically anyway. Now I know the real use of it.
Wew, took me for fucking ever to realize what Ki Pulse is. The tutorial is kinda shit. I mean they could at least put this stuff into the online manual or something.
Now I need to find out how I was stunning that first boss.
Overall really great demo. They put a shitton of effort into this game. It basically takes a huge dump on the entire Souls series.
>>336179181
This Video>>336179137 Has it at around the 8:40 mark.
However, I think the dude's playing it too safe by using Low Stance cancels. Looks cool, but not nearly doing enough damage compared to a High stance attack-Low Stance Dodge cancel. Would be annoying as hell in PvP though if they implement one.
>>336179137
>average gameplay
if that was the case then all these shitters wouldn't be crying.
He's clearly not as good as the guy you posted, but he has damn near perfect ki-pulse and switches stances on the fly.
How does the pvp work? Are the bloodstains actual players? Only asking because that shit works insanely fast.
>>336179853
bloodstains are NPC
>>336179853
>How does the pvp work?
There is none yet. That's only in the full game.
Are the bloodstains actual players?
No. They're NPCs based on fallen player's builds.
Is using Spear + Sloth + Street Shark cheesy?
Amazon says the game is coming out in October 26. That is a long time. I would kill for a second alpha or a beta demo in between that.
>>336179853
Why do some bloodstains glow with a yellow sparkle?
>>336179469
You can stunlock any Yokai when you deplete their KI. Some Yokai has weaknesses such as the Oni's Horns, Cyclops' eye and Nue's lightning belly that instantly deplete all their KI
>>336179768
That's average by action gaming standards. Hell, the timing for Ki-pulse is very leninent compared to a Max-act for Nero in DMC4 for instance and stance switching is easy once you know what stance is appropriate. Swapping stance and weapon mid-combo is more impressive.
>>336179964
Using Sloth on anything is easy mode
>>336180086
Big Phat Loot compared to 1-2 pieces dropping
>>336173248
nice meme
>>336180086
Those are special NPC bloodstains. If you kill them they will drop an item 100% of the time.
>lel, press r1 to attack!
>doesnt explain anything else
This games tutorial is total bullshit.
>>336180240
>press r1 to attack!
>>336180240
>press r1 to attack
baka gaijin
>>336180240
>press r1 to attack
W-what?
>>336180240
Never ever PCuck!
>>336180240
>press r1 to attack
N-NANI?!
Goddammit the first boss kicked my ass. I was tempted to come here and whip out a LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE thread.
Tempted to pre-order right now.
>>336180163
do you have any vids?
>>336160718
I kind of dig the mix between Souls gameplay and Diablo loot, I hope they add a ton a replayability with a decent co-op.
I can't beat the first boss and it's pissing me off because I'm otherwise loving this. I just can't avoid enough damage consistently so I get worn down.
Getting tired of grinding for Elixirs and Whetstones, too. I hope they change how durability works in the full game.
>>336180634
Of what?
How do i repair weapons?
>>336180481
I've always wondered how are you supposed to pronounce that. PC-cuck? Peacock, to reflect mustards' tendency for self admiration and arrogance? P-suck?
>>336180726
You can block most of his shit if you play it safe. Follow Ken-sama's guide>>336178142 or become badass like this guy>>336179137
>>336173508
1000 hours in MS paint
>>336180758
I guess not, thought since you're such an ace you could show some gameplay.
This boat demon is kicking my ass, I get him down halfway but when the chains break he destroys my anus.
Any tips?
>>336180913
Pe-cuck
>>336180892
Whetstones. Nikawa Glue repairs armor. They'll drop from enemies.
>>336180481
I have dark souls on my brain, I meant square, but you catch my drift on what I'm saying.
The games tutorial doesn't exist and when you have a deep combat system like this game, it would kind of help if you explain the mechanics instead of throwing people under the bus.
Am I supposed to be ki-pulsing after every attack? Because currently, I've just been doing it after every short combo I do.
The fact people are complaining this hard about the game's difficulty just tells me that most Soulsborne faggots are serious shitters and underage retards who probably get through those games thanks to the strong meta surrounding them online.
I mean holy fucking christ, it is no harder than games like Ninja Gaiden Black, Tenchu, Shinobi,etc. And those games aren't as hard as their arcade counterparts. AND this game has video tutorials on every aspect of it to hold your hand in case you really are retarded.
>can't even get past the row of houses up the hill at the start
Kill me.
How do i dodge with the white aura on /v/? That is much faster than the regular dodge right?
>>336181221
Blocking and not spamming attacks will get you going in the right direction.
>>336174325
Link to vid?
>>336180970
What the fuck are you talking about? I am not that other anon but he responded to 4 different replies and you are asking for a video. A video of a boss being stunlocked?
>>336181217
Yes, according to From's statistics, about 93% of souls community are fucking braindead.
>>336181236
Is the same thing as pressing R1 for ki-burst stamina regen but you press the dodge button instead.
>>336181476
Mellow, that anon was acting like elite gameplay was easy.
>>336180985
>Use your guardian spirit
>And dodge
>people complaining about the poor tutorial and explanations
>mfw I actually like it because it feels we are exploring a new video game together
>>336180914
Jesus christ I don't understand how this boss is so easy for literally everyone but me.
I just spent five minutes getting him almost dead in the second phase and then I got hit once and it was enough for him to juggle me the rest of the way to death.
>>336180240
Seems even the tutorial was too difficult for you.
>>336181293
I keep forgetting to block for some reason. I feel like this game is supposed to be played kinda like a Souls game where you have to manage stamina and not just rush in blindly but I just can't get the hang of that for whatever reason.
>>336181880
why is this in greentext?
>>336181708
So the timing is the key.
Thanks kind ronin.
>>336182067
I had a nightmare time with him fairly certain it was 10+ tries, the spirit move or whatever the fuck it's called worked a treat on the second phase, stunned the shit out of him.
>>336182162
That's just mid-stance's dodge. You can do something similar in low stance without draining your Ki.
>>336180240
it must be if its telling you incorrect controls
My biggest complaint with this game is the durability. Why cant I repair my weapons? If I find a good weapon, I'd like to not worry about it breaking.
>>336182229
Oh shit, so it's different for each stance?
Fuck, the gameplay is deep. Loving it!
>>336182013
enjoy it while you can
How do you git gud at helping others?
>>336182387
Use a whetstone retard.
>>336182387
Use whetstone anon
DOMO HAJIMEMASHITE
GERALT DESU
>>336182067
I also had a hard time with the first boss; second boss is much easier, really.
Use sloth and ninjutsu and Living Weapon, that's how I beat it.
>>336182387
I think they confirmed that a blacksmith will be in the main game.
>>336179181
Doesnt work
>>336182463
>missing the point
His complaint is legit, there's no whetstones to buy, unless I'm missing something.
>>336182602
You need the white bar to do it.
>flying monkey
>timing the down stab just right that you kill one guy
>dash back then switch to high attacks and floor him
>>336182387
Use a whetstone, dumbass.
>>336182492
YEEEEEEART
>>336174274
your doing god's work
>>336182732
Offer items yields them at times, they drop from enemies as well as being found as floor or inspect loot.
If going on item hunt, use bird. Increases human and later (if levelled) yokai item drops
>>336182492
Rivieru no Geralt desu ka?
>>336182602
It has to be a perfect ki burst. When the bar turns completely white then you press R1+O. Is like when you are dispelling the white circles on the ground the Yokai leave. At 0:04 you can see I fucked up and I didnt change it. The rest were perfect and it changed.
>>336182808
>only repairs 50% durability
>weapon still breaks 5 enemies later
Wew lad, looks like you're the dumbass, here.
So heart seems to give me health, damage and ki. Is there a reason to level anything else?
>>336181708
we flash stepping now
>>336183119
Not him but,
>blocking constantly
>not switching out weapons with ones of equal or same level unless they have a status effect on them
I suck yet can keep weapons for longer.
>>336183119
Maybe not block or use two at once?
>>336183147
Can't wield everything properly with just a strong heart. Animus have lied to you anon.
>>336183119
>weapon still breaks 5 enemies later
maybe you should stop dying and hitting walls constantly
you can play through the first area with the starting weapon, without fixing it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmUPfN33a8
Please tell me how I can git gud like this
>>336183281
So aside from equip requirements I can just pick a weapon that scales with heart and just level that?
>>336183147
For weapon scaling and requirements. I think heavy armor requires stamina and strength.
>>336183348
Become virgin, acquire wizardry
>>336158020
First character: 11 everything just to see what I liked
Second character: 6-8 body/skill/str to hit minimum equips, 10 dex for fire shurikens, rest into heart
Third character: 40 dex nigga. It's just BARELY shy of being able to kill Nue with fire/normal shurikens alone. Like 3-4 barehand punches was all it took to finish it.
>>336183348
Dont play like a souls game iguess?
>>336181352
https://youtu.be/UPcxXNV12lw
>>336183371
Not always. Raikiri needs skill at 9 to use at the full damage.
>>336183348
If you had sex its already too late for you.
>>336183463
>acquire wizardry
only a year and a half to go...
This game has too much shit to learn and pay attention to. I just want to have fun. Back to Dark Souls 3.
>>336157910
Finished bloodboner and dank souls yet cant get past 3rd group of guys.
One v one stuff is fine but any multi enemy fight feels completely rng and add to that you cant switch lock on targets without stopping attacking shit hits me that I cant see.
>>336183710
>i just want to mash r1 and roll
>>336183710
>dark souls
>fun
fucking lmao
What you fags listening to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H33gYeY8Ck
>>336183717
your skills in souls games have no affect on the gameplay in this game. it's like saying you're really good at tetris after playing god of war.
>>336161684
You can get through the game pretty cleanly with just long range attacks like mid katana strongs and high stance strongs
>>336183980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9ovuYvgUNI
I'm not really familiar with summoning mechanics in other games, by why does summoning appear to increase the health of enemies?
I tried summoning someone to help me fight Nue, they died like 20 seconds in, and for the rest of the fight I was barely doing anything to its life. Went back in again solo with the exact same hits and got it to like half health in the same amount of time.
Does your stamina get drained the same amount from guarding with any weapon, or do the weapons have different absorption rates?
>>336184380
of course it increases enemy health
it would be incredibly easy otherwise
>>336184419
I believe it starts out the same, with maybe Mid-stance using the least since it's the guard stance. However, some of the skills you can buy lessen the amount of a ki a specific stance's guard uses up.
>>336184449
Isn't that the point of summoning, though? You're too shit to do it on your own so you have someone come to help you out, who's more skilled/geared?
I don't know why anyone would ever bother summoning, save for enjoying co-op, but when I went in to help others on the first mission, it was always right at the boss.
>>336184631
summoning still makes it easier because it doesnt increase the amount of enemies
How much do you think the final release will change?
>>336184919
RIP Mr. Oatmeal.
>>336184761
I'm hoping they add an unarmed or fist weapon tree since the unarmed parry is cool as hell but impractical as fuck, but as far as mechanics go I think the game is rock solid.
>>336184631
Have you considered: "Because it's fun"?
>>336184919
One can only hope
>>336183710
>I don't want to play new mechanics
>I'll just stick to Dark Souls
stick to your shitty comfort zone anon!
>>336185064
Yes, actually.
>save for enjoying co-op
I was always under the impression that summoning was to help carry bad players.
>>336185064
Not in it's current form. It'd be more fun if you could easily link up with friends.
>>336185230
Summoning is literally because Souls did it, and Souls did it because:
>They help with invaders
and
>Co-op shit is fun
I've heard people talk about follow ups to parries in these threads a few times, but I still have no idea what they meant. The only thing I can do after the square or triangle parries with the katana is attack their back. It's a fine option, but it's not what I think other people are talking about.
>>336185358
Well I mean it IS an Alpha demo.
>tfw no character creation
Also how do you pronounce this games name, is it knee-oh, Kni-oh or something else?
>>336185408
Square parry=you slash their back is the follow up
Triangle parry=you smack them causing them to fall over.
>>336185408
While you're in the parry animation press the button you used to parry.
>>336185495
I know, and it's not that big of a complaint, just that some people probably don't try co-op out unless it's with friends. I could see them adding in something for the players to find each other easily.
Help. How do I git gud with Nue?
>>336185636
Use the bow.
>>336185498
It's obviously pronounced nai-ow
>>336185636
permastun it
throw shuriken at stomach when show stomach
permastun it
Boat Demon it's fucking me up
What the fuck do i do
>>336185495
Don't let them fool you; it is a vertical slice. Like MGS GZ.
What's the best stat build for katana?
>>336184919
I'm still very weirded out by the fact that this KT/Team Ninja game has zero anime titty.
I'm sure it'll be somewhere in the final release, but considering the enemy variety present in this "alpha" build, you'd think there'd be a giant pair of breasts somewhere.
>>336185636
When he's doing his breath attack, get around to his sides. Hitting him in the noggin from the side also drains a good chunk of his stamina, allowing you to get a few hits in.
When he starts summoning lightning from the sky (Which always comes in bolts of 4), important thing is to KEEP MOVING. Not even sprinting, they can't even hit you as you're not stationary. Most of his swipes can be easily blocked or dodged, so you don't have to worry about him on a physical level.
>>336185748
DSP beat him no problem after jerking off
maybe you should try it
>>336185840
Don't worry anon, big titty anime ghost is already confirmed by the trailers.
you will get your Team Ninja titties.
>>336185840
There's that creepy crow lady demon in the TGS trailer, if she counts towards anything.
>>336185372
Too bad there is no PVP or covenants with invasions too. That shit would be so cool in this setting.
>>336185748
Keep your distance, learn the animation for his spin attack when he's still chained to the balls.
The chains break at like 3/4 health and he becomes way easier, at that point all you need to watch out for is when he throws the balls, which is telegraphed for a solid 5 seconds.
Is it just me or is this really, really... good? I kind of expected it to be "Lords of the Fallen, but with samurai" but it's tons of fun and has a really fun combo and stance system.
Also I specced for katanas but spears are fun as shit and now I kind of wish I'd gone Body/Strength instead of Heart.
>>336186017
LE DARK SOULDS XZXDX fuck off
>>336186170
Yep, it's really fun and manages to successfully channel a bunch of different influences, but still feel likes its own thing. As opposed to LotF, which was 1:1 Souls, but had no redeeming features apart from a neat experience banking system.
>>336186170
It's easily the best game of this gen. It made me realize gamings not dead.
>>336186170
I feel exactly the same way. I don't really care for DS/Bloodborne, but I tried this out of boredom and I fucking love it.
>>336186279
Stay mad bitch.
>>336186279
He has a point, though.
>>336186463
you're the mad onekid :^)
>>336186279
>not wanting honorabru duels on a samurai game
Look at this dumb faggot lmao.
>>336186017
>>336186279
At TGS, Shibusawa said something about the ability to "meddle with the worlds of other players". It was mentioned independently of the revenant system, so I took it to mean that invasions would be there.
>>336186590
Call me kid one more time and see what happens.
>>336186721
>not linking the video
Get your shit together, Anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAkCLpMtjlM
How are spears? They're really fun to use but I built my dude 100% for katanas so I haven't used them much beyond the early parts.
>>336186762
NiiiN has no hands. How is he going to win?
>>336157910
>havent played ps4 in a good half of year
>see this thread
>figure I might as well try it out
>having an unbelievable amount of fun
I can't believe I'm actually enjoying my ps4.
>>336186807
They're fun, if you get good with low stance you'll be able to pursue anyone. Mid-stance has best crowd management out of the three weapons. Just gotta watch out for walls and stuff with the spear because of it's range.
>>336186825
he clearly has swords for arms
>>336186807
That's the one knock I have against the demo. It's rare to get a spear or hammer until after you've leveled up a bit, and by the point you're already specced into katanas.
I just wound up making a new save speccing into hammers and struggled for a bit until I got an axe.
>>336186594
>NOT WANTING SOULS WAAAAAAA
fucking lol at yourself before you try and lol @me you sperg lmao
>>336186762
HoH has two swords, a thin and agile frame, and a magic boomerang made out of hands.
Meanwhile, NiiiN has arms connected at the wrist and a cape.
It's obvious who would win here.
>>336187449
how does HoH beat NiiiN if he cant see him due to cape trickery
>>336187575
Because he cuts the cape?
>>336161335
The second zone after boat oni boss has an amazing soundtrack, the zone is hard as balls though
>>336187642
how can he cut what he cant see
how can NiiiN die if he's invincible?
>>336186849
just six more months till the game comes out
>>336187736
>>336187736
What am I supposed to do in that time? There are no more video games until then.
>>336157910
>axe build
>beat 1st boss first try and die to nue like a bitch
>try katana build
>lose to 1st boss like 4 times before I beat him
>bet nue first time
kek. Just pumped the shit out of heart. That was fun.
I can't find the yellow cup fucker on the second level.
>>336188003
Let ps4 gather even more dust and in a blaze of glory in 6 months blow it all off in a 2tonne pressure blow thru your nostrils and mouth at the same time and plug it up with this fresh game
>>336188003
Bloodborne? I don't know man. Everything else seems like it will be dissapointing.
Should I invest in Skill or Dexterity?
Skill stat gives you skill points to master up skills
Dex stat gives you ninjutsu points for ninjustu skills such as caltrops and shurikens.
>>336188180
>can only play until 5th may
amazing training time available
>>336188187
Jesus this console generation has been a huge pile of shit. The PS2 had a good game every month.
>>336168389
the first part isn't like this at all, but the second part, holly shit
>>336188003
If you haven't already, go back and play all the games that were influential on Nioh.
>>336188305
Dont forget to upgrade to the new amazing meme Ps4 hitting markets in a year to play the next game coming out in 18 months! only 550$!!
>>336188280
Train your body, the mind will follow.
>>336188417
You just reminded be I never got to play Dawn of Dreams. Time to install that PS2 emulator again.
>>336188305
true, but for real Bloodborne an Nioh are better than any of that shit even going back to ps2
>>336188523
ffffuuuuuuck
>>336188497
>People will actually buy that
Give all dashes I frames imo. If only low stance was good besides that
>>336188674
>Low Stance
>Bad
>>336188646
They have too... every new exclusive that the jewish japanese tycoons will release will SPECIFICALLY be tailored for the NEW jew system.
>>336188674
>i want to teleport through attacks
your game is shit
>>336166420
>damage with low stance
HOW
>>336185730
knee-oh you retard, japanese pronounciation is similar to spanish
>>336188871
Upgrade.
Fully upgraded low stance on spear and katana is the best damage out put and the highest stun rate.
You can stun Nue long enough with low stance katana to get Isode active from empty.
>>336188847
yeah nioh is pretty bad
>>336188871
Low stance gets probably the highest damage increase in the demo if you buy the upgrades.
>>336163513
I agree completely.
Game is great so far, but William is a bland protagonist.
>>336189171
this, were the hell is yakub?
>>336163392
kek
>>336189106
>>336189164
>Upgrade
?
>>336164920
I just like character creators, even if they suck.
William or whatever the fuck his name is sucks. Games good though.
>>336189383
We literally know nothing about him yet aside from his appearance and the way he grunts.
I just downloaded this today. It's fun and I wish I downloaded it earlier. Think I can get the DLC bonus thing by the fifth?
I'm not a casual.
How are axes? Do they stagger enough to make the slow moves workable with the fast combat?
On the second level, where is the nearest shrine after the first one? Am I better off going straight for the door shortcut? I am having a very tough time beating the demon that guards it.
>>336189559
There's only two shrines in the level. One's requires you do some exploring to find.
I cant use character creators to save my life so I rather have different playable characters with their own stances and move sets similar to Otogi 2.
youtube.com/watch?v=TOLYjSJSz1U
>>336189364
In the skills menu. You can upgrade the skills for each stance.
>>336189559
There are only two shrines on the second stage. The door shortcut and the one next to the boss. The second shrine requires a key so you're better off just getting the door shortcut first.
>>336188785
Worthless damage. I midstanced through the whole game and both bosses. I frame dashes are nice but not if you're not gonna do any damage
>>336172451
This clip makes me want Seagal cast as a live action WW Ganondorf.
>get to the first boss
>Break several sets of armor learning to fight him
>Grind out a fresh set and fill my living weapon bar on enemies
>Use the one fire buff I have and proceed to give it a shot
>Get him down to his last little bit of health then the game decides it wants to change the hit boxes.
I'm done. The game won, I'm conquered whatever the fuck. I'm fucking done with this bullshit.
>>336189697
>Worthless damage
>>336189917
It's worthless, though I haven't tried upgrading it like people have suggested. Didn't know it had disproportionate increases.
To be fair, Nioh is pretty fucking good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPcxXNV12lw
>>336189901
>Grinding a new set
The boat boss has wood boxes around him you can break got glues and whetstones. I was stuck on him for 2 hours my first time and I always had a stack of 9 of glues and stones to fix my stuff.
>Huge Soulsfag
>Try this out
>Get wrecked repeatedly
>Shitloads of mechanics and tools I don't understand.
Fuck this shit. I know I'm going to enjoy this, but his demo is pretty badly put together in terms of teaching me. I understand NOTHING other than basic stance and ki pulse stuff. What the fuck is my spirit animal? What's the point of leveling up? Why do they tell me that retreating is a good idea sometime if enemies can chase me at full sprint all the way to the start of the level?
>>336189901
See you tomorrow
>>336190141
you need to have played real kuhrazee games
>>336190141
Are you a retard?
>What's the point of leveling up?
What's the point of leveling in Souls?
>Why do they tell me that retreating is a good idea sometime if enemies can chase me at full sprint all the way to the start of the level?
So you can try and funnel them back.
Do you even play video games? You fucking summon for bosses in DaS3 don't you?
>>336190141
You'll get a feel for it, the only thing you really need to know is don't try to roll out of combos.
>>336190091
Oh god what the fuck is this.
>>336157910
It feels like a bargain bin game to be honest. Maybe that'll change but as is I'm not buying it.
>>336185923
>DSP
>after jerking off
Do I want to know?
>>336190346
He turned his facecam on too early and was caught flogging the dolphin before his Nioh stream. He then proceeded to stream the game as if nothing happened (So not washing his hands).
>>336189901
holy shit nigga you are fucking up in all sorts of ways. Do you not use whetstones and glue? you get them from grinding enemies and breaking boxes, dont break out good pieces of armor fucking save them you twat! you can find a Wind buff in the burning village thats more effective against the boss and choose the wind spirit to grind out cause the fucker is MADE OF FIRE!
>>336190413
Check the catalog, senpai. You're in for a surprise.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s19livM1r3l7
>>336189493
You have plenty of time
>>336182115
Yeah I forgot that blocking was an option for much of it too, it's too easy to focus on dodging. Block all the time. Block every one. Block while dodging.
>Block before taking damage to stagger the enemy
>triangle parry
>Square parry
>Kick to guard break.
WHY DO WE NEED ALL OF THIS IS ONE STANCE ON ONE WEAPON
>>336190462
Holy shit.
>>336190540
thanks anon
>>336183119
>Wew lad
No, you're definitely the dumbass here.
>>336190259
This isn't a crazy game.Also, fuck you in the ass. I've beaten NGB/NG2/B1/B2/TW101/DMC1-4.
>>336190301
>What's the point of leveling in Souls?
To meet requirements for new weapons or spells mostly. This game doesn't seem to have any concept of "playstyles" or "builds" so I don't really see the point of leveling up much.
>So you can try and funnel them back.
Are you fucking retarded? The game told me to retreat sometimes. Three guys rished me so I thought I'd pull back and try that. They chased me LITERALLY all the way back to the shrine. At full speed.
>You fucking summon for bosses in DaS3 don't you?
Eat shit. You're dumber than shit if you think my frustration at a demo with almost no tutorial or teaching in it means I'm a casual.
>>336190692
>This game doesn't seem to have any concept of "playstyles" or "builds"
What are different weapons and stances?
>>336190529
You weren't kidding.
>>336190692
>To meet requirements for new weapons or spells mostly. This game doesn't seem to have any concept of "playstyles" or "builds" so I don't really see the point of leveling up much.
You literally didn't even look at your weapons or starting armor. You are a literal idiot.
>Are you fucking retarded? The game told me to retreat sometimes.
Yeah, and you do so to make more room for yourself.
>You're dumber than shit if you think my frustration at a demo with almost no tutorial or teaching in it means I'm a casual.
>almost no tutorial or teaching
I saw plenty of tutorial messages that taught me the basics of the game. You're fucking blind or you're a casual.
>>336190692
but it is
>>336190692
>To meet requirements for new weapons
Aaaand...? Come on, Anon.
Leveling gives you more damage, too.
Also stances and weapons have different requirements. Retard.
>The game told me to retreat sometimes. Three guys rished me so I thought I'd pull back and try that. They chased me LITERALLY all the way back to the shrine. At full speed.
>Get swarmed somewhere
>Run all the way back hoping they get retarded
No, retard. You run partway back, get some hits in, retreat more.
>Let's stop chasing him. I'm tired. John-sama, you chase him yourself you'll be fine.
Retard.
>Eat shit. You're dumber than shit if you think my frustration at a demo with almost no tutorial or teaching in it means I'm a casual.
Game taught me fine, bitch nigga.
>>336190908
>What are different weapons and stances?
Available to all players at all times. No character building. No commitment. No choices.
It's fine, not every game has to be like every other in that regard, but it's not like I need higher dex to use a spear or something. I'm imagining the end result of this stats system will be three kinds of player. Heavy/Light and Magic or something.
The diablo loot system with 50 stats no one will ever read absolutely has to go.
>>336191086
>but it's not like I need higher dex to use a spear or something.
HUE
>>336191086
>it's not like I need higher dex to use a spear or something.
KEK
>>336191086
You upgrade them all seperately. Imagine it's sousl but you start with the shittiest everything instead of just some of the shit available.
>>336167348
same here
>>336191086
> dex
> spears
>>336191086
>iit's not like I need higher dex to use a spear or something
>>336191074
not him, but I didn't know different stances scaled with stats. What stances scale with what?
>>336190530
Fuck off, sellout.
>>336191086
soulsfans everybody
>>336191326
There's supposed to be a period after stances.
Stances are playstyles/builds, weapons have requirements.
It's there a way to reset stat points without starting a new game?
>>336191086
Did you not notice the skill trees? Or how higher-level weapons have stat requirements and how, much like in Souls, they scale with different stats so you need the right stats to get the best damage?
>>336190462
i dunno it seems like a stunt to me, he makes reference straight up to the camera, im still suspicious that his whole persona is shameless self slander for shekels
>>336191086
Weapons and armor have requirements. If you dont meet them the stats will be halved. They have scaling too.
>>336191000
>You literally didn't even look at your weapons or starting armor.
No, I did. I have no idea what relation you think that would even have to the rest of this.
>Yeah, and you do so to make more room for yourself.
There's no room if three guys are literally on my heels the whole way. I couldn't make any fucking space to work with. They rushed me and stayed on me until I got cornered and died. That's not a big deal, I kinda like that you can't just back out of it's "zone" the way you can in Souls. The issue is more with telling me retreat it an option when it's not.
>I saw plenty of tutorial messages that taught me the basics of the game
It's insufficient. They needed an optional spot where I could go to simply READ about this stuff. Like a real instruction manual type situation. Not just subtitled lines from a disembodied voice.
>>336191074
>Leveling gives you more damage, too.
Stats are more about reqs than scaling in Souls.
>Also stances and weapons have different requirements. Retard.
Not that I've encountered or had explained to me. Not that hard to give me a message saying different weapons take different stats to wield and benefit from different stats.
> You run partway back, get some hits in, retreat more.
Kiting isn't retreating. That particular loading screen tip is garbage. Fact.
>>336191508
>Did you not notice the skill trees?
Of course not. The game did almost nothing to start explaining stuff to me. I'm not just gonna leap into the shrine menu and sit there scratching my head. So you use Amrita to level up or something right? How do I earn it? Is it lost on death? They didn't fucking explain anything. This sort of design was less frustrating with Souls because Souls is actually just not that deep or complex at all. I can feel lots of underlying depth here and they're doing almost nothing to ease me into it.
> Or how higher-level weapons have stat requirements
They didn't say that this is the case nor did they demonstrate it to me.
>>336191464
Ah, cool. Thought I was fucking up by just pumping heart for muh katana. Scaling well off of the stamina stat seems silly t b h I imagine that might get changed.
>>336191854
>stats
>are
>more
>about
>reqs
>than
>scaling
>in
>souls
go home, scaling is a huge aspect. There are reqs in Nioh too
>>336191854
The game explains all that shit to you. Open the fucking menu by pressing on the touchpad. There's a skill menu. There's a "memories" menu with all the tutorial messages that appear on the screen (by the way, did you notice that tutorial messages appear on the screen at various spots in the first area?).
>stats are more about reqs than scaling in Souls
...have you PLAYED a Souls game?
>>336191854
>No, I did. I have no idea what relation you think that would even have to the rest of this.
You are actually lying right now. Why are you such a liar.
>Stats are more about reqs than scaling in Souls.
Lol.
>It's insufficient. They needed an optional spot where I could go to simply READ about this stuff. Like a real instruction manual type situation. Not just subtitled lines from a disembodied voice.
No, it's perfectly fine. Especially since after you receive those messages, you can go into your memory section and re-read them in more detail. Imagine that, a place where you can go to read info about the mechanics. Wonder of wonders.
>Not that I've encountered or had explained to me. Not that hard to give me a message saying different weapons take different stats to wield and benefit from different stats.
You keep comparing this to souls. You realize that Souls doesn't explicitly tell you that certain weapons require certain stats? You've never even played a single Souls game, have you?
You're garbage, m8. Kill yourself.
>>336192051
>go home, scaling is a huge aspect.
Upgrades > Stats every fucking time.
>>336191854
You are literally stupider than DSP at this point.
There is nothing that can be said that will ever ease the frustration I feel upon realizing that I wasted time reading and responding to the shame that is your life.
>>336191854
>Stats are more about reqs than scaling in Souls.
kek
And kiting is literally retreating if you're running back to previously-tread ground.
>>336191774
...how the fuck was I supposed to know that? In Dark Souls the icons have Xs letting me know something is wrong but in here there is nothing. This game fucking blows.
>>336191854
>Stats are more about reqs than scaling in Souls.
Is being this retarded a hobby of yours or something?
>>336191854
>So you use Amrita to level up or something right? How do I earn it? Is it lost on death?
Okay bud.
Amrita is
Okay get this bud
Amrita
Still with me, bud?Amrita is souls
>>336192320
The attack number is red if you can't properly wield it.
Jesus Christ you're dumb.
>>336192371
Said the guy posting undermeme
>>336192112
>There's a "memories" menu with all the tutorial messages that appear on the screen
Oh good.
>...have you PLAYED a Souls game?
Have you? Are you one of those morons who obsessively levels to softcap or hardcap your stats? Stats are more about reqs than scaling in Souls. That's just a fucking fact.
>>336192371
You're the only retard around here, so I guess you should be asking yourself. I fucking guarantee you I've played more Souls than you. Stats are more about reqs than scaling. Enjoy going to SL 120 just for 50 more AR on your weapons.
>>336192220
Have you ever played sorc?
Fuck this I am out and fuck all of you. I hope this game crashes and burns.
>>336192220
You upgrade it so it scaled better.
Or are you a lightning Zweihander shitter?
>>336192320
Because if you look at the stats menu it literally says "(STAT) REQUIRED: 8", has the number in red, etc.
>>336192503
>Stats are more about reqs than scaling in Souls. That's just a fucking fact.
>>336192503
>Stats are more about reqs than scaling.
You're still wrong if you repeat yourself.
>>336192320
It's pretty obvious, I'm not a fan of the game's tutorial either but you sound silly or arrogant. Actually go into the game like it's a new game instead of going THIS IS DARK SOULS IM GUD LOL I BEAT GAM
>>336192503
>Stats are more about reqs than scaling in Souls. That's just a fucking fact.
>I fucking guarantee you I've played more Souls than you. Stats are more about reqs than scaling.
>>336192503
Scaling makes a huge difference in Souls games. Not in the early game, but by the late-game you want to be scaling your weapons or you're doing way less damage than you could be. Why WOULDN'T you?
>>336192626
nah dude you should be getting to 50 str for that greatshield or smough hammer 1 hand req it's more important and that's a fucking fact :^)
>>336192506
Upgrades on your catalyst matter more than your stats though. Going to +10 on your catalyst provided way more than another 10 points of INT or something. And it's always a good call to go after stuff like END/VIG/VIT too, since those actually matter more in general than squeezing a marginal jump in damage from your weapon.
>>336192581
Upgrades don't even always change the scaling you moron. An upgrade provides more damage boosts than 5 or so points in a given damage stat.
>>336192626
>by the late-game you want to be scaling your weapons or you're doing way less damage than you could be.
100 damage really isn't that much though. Scaling is hugely overrated.
>Why WOULDN'T you
See above. Other stats actually have a a bigger impact. You'll see more success in PVP if you're more durable or carrying better equipment or have better stamina than if you're worrying about hitting 40 dex or something.
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