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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>336157910
>spirit stops working past 10 in demo
What, why?
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Post builds you used to defeat Nue.

To the previous guy who responded to me, spirit stops working properly in the demo after level 10 or so.
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>>336158009
Spirit mainly affects your spirit guardian. You may have noticed under the spirit guardian screen they have stat boosts that are colored red. Red stat boosts means they are locked and you need to increase your spirit stat. However, the spirit guardians in the demo only allow for stat boosts up to level 10. In the full game you can expect the shark or the fox ect. to have stat boosts that go up to the level cap.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU
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>>336158020
I went strength and stamina and hit him a with a hammer. Also used kekkai to dispel the yokai realms and sloth to slow him down for more wailing with muh hammer.
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Died a couple of times against Boat Oni, almost getting there though. Can't wait to play the second level.
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>>336158371
Need any advice?
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hourly reminder that dsp beat the first boss on his third try
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>>336158218
Does at least the duration and refill work past 10?
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>>336158337
>Also used kekkai to dispel the yokai realms
My agility was so high I wasn't even affected by them. I used sloth as well, in addition to fire shuriken which weren't effective against him at all. Sloth really helped hitting his lightning breath attack, but I think the spear by itself would have done the trick anyway. When nue is calling lightning bolts down on your path, you can also sloth him then so that the lightning is much, much slower and hit his yellow belly for an instant stagger.
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>>336158449
So far I am using a lightning ichimonji I believe with Kekkai talisman and water talisman. It seems attacking from behind is pretty safe so far.
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>>336158280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxGYiFl0G0M
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>>336158491
What level?
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>>336158371
Go axe, put every point into it
Get sloth
As soon as fight starts you can get him with a rock to stun
Use sloth
Ezmode
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POST SONGS YOU LISTEN TO WHEN PLAYING NIOH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4G8eN72Slw
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>>336158856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kORT6xLIpTM
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>>336158020
wanted to see how much it would increase living weapon regen rate
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>>336158780
What does sloth do? I have stopped playing, but I am able to put points in it.
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WELL /v/?

ARE YOU A CONQUEROR?
OR ARE YOU CONQUERED?
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>>336158646

drink a sacred water, sit next to him the whole time, block while he does the swinging shit and hit him whenever he's not (giving yourself enough time for ki to recover), and once the chains break you can move around baiting his body slam and wrecking him when he uses it or just beat his ass and dodge whenever he attacks
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>>336158371
Literally the easiest boss ever. Int he first phase, run pass his forward attacks and block his swing attacks, then in the second phase simply just run away from his throws and grapples, they're so obvious to avoid its amazing people didn't beat him on at least their third try.
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>>336159124
>tfw don't find any of them with high def
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>I just found out you can change weapons mid combo for cuhrazy shit
>The game never mentions or explains this mechanic
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>>336159309
stance change is like the 3rd item pickup, ki impulse like the 5th
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>>336159309
>The game never mentions or explains this mechanic
Probably because its fucking obvious and its the devs of ninja gaiden?
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>>336159230

second boss is easier in my opinion, bigger area so all of his attacks are easy as fuck to dodge
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>>336159309
got a youtube vid of that webm?
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>>336159230
P1 fucks me over with his circle swings, P2 fucks me over when he regains Ki and instantly jumps and kills me.
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>>336159230
I am pretty damn average at games though... I even have a hard time beating games like God of War..
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>>336158218
Not true, Shark has an effect at level 12 which works when you get to it. Spirit also strengthens your Guardian Spirit in general and Raikiri scales with it as well as some accessories.
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>>336159487
>circle swings
If you're near the boss when he's doing his circle swings, you're going about it all wrong. You just need to be patient and wait for the boss to fall over.

>instantly jumps and kills me
Once again, just wait for the lightning breath and hit him in the face. Instant stagger. Also you can instant stagger him by hitting his belly during the lightning storm attack, but its riskier.
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>>336159487
You can block the chain when he does the spin, the second phase you just have to be more careful and watch for his leap attack, once you dodge it he's left wide open. Maybe using low stance more would help.
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>>336159376

That is stance change not weapon change.

Stance change - R1 and any of the stance buttons.

Weapon change - R1+O+Left.

If you try to press left mid combo nothing will happen but if you do that command it changes instantly. This is never mentioned.

https://youtu.be/HPmUPfN33a8?t=521

Great game but the tutorial is poor.
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>>336157910
>finally a game I am pretty good at
Feels pretty good.
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>>336160209

Go away DSP
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>>336160158
>the tutorial is poor.

literally just the play the game and find out interesting shit on your own, you spoonfed scrublord
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>>336159718
I dodge his attack, he sits there for a few seconds, I hit him, he gets up, I retreat, he hits me in the back with his swung.
>>336160039
I do that but he eventually loses Ki and I stagger him but he gets it back at one point and before I even finish my attack he instantly jumps and kills me.
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>>336158020
Why are skill and dexterity two different stats?
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ask me anything about japanese history and mythology
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Had more fun with a 5 hour beta than all of dark souls 3

The combat is deep, gameplay is great and monster design is fantastic.

How are people finding Ninja gaiden souls
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>>336160631
The stats are poorly named. Dexterity should really be called ninjutsu. Skill is basically what you'd expect dexterity to be.

Make sure you ask Team Ninja to change the stat's names, they're really bad.
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>>336160631
Precise, graceful movements versus fast, tricky hands.
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>>336158856
>POST SONGS YOU LISTEN TO WHEN PLAYING NIOH

The Nioh soundtrack is actually good and one thing I like about it over the Soulsborne games is how it has ambient music.

That said, I guess this would fit pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j-70nF3-qg
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>>336160937
why is that william causes illusions of himself when he dodges occasionally but some other times he simply steps out of the way? something to do with stances or weight? does it have any gameplay reason other than a neat particle effect?
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>tfw died to the first 3 enemies in the demo multiple times

i don't think this game is for me
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>>336160937
Low stance has the best dodge, try doing the same in high stance.
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>>336161067
>The Nioh soundtrack is actually good
uh what? the game has music? any youtube videos of the songs in nioh, I literally don't remember a single time a song played.

>>336161163
that's how everyone felt in the beginning. This shit is wonderful 101 all over again for me. First 30 minutes I'm just like what the fuck am I doing. Two hours later, I'm speeding through the demo one shotting onis and shit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LojH3rFw0
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>>336160158
A tutorial isn't supposed to specifically outline each and every possible action and circumstance. It gives you the basics of the game's systems so that you can apply them yourself in different ways and discover how the game works.
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>>336161335
>uh what? the game has music? any youtube videos of the songs in nioh, I literally don't remember a single time a song played.

see >>336159074
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The game feels strange. Probably just an alpha thing. Everything feels so sharp movement-wise.
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>>336161157
Ki pulse, son.
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>>336160480
Try not to go in so hard with attacks and keep some Ki left over for when he recovers. If you've seen it enough you'll learn as well when he's about to recover so you can back up sooner too.
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>>336161163
I had the same problems. Now I run through motherfuckers.

If you are playing it like souls, stop. It plays nothing like a souls game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbLCjLqdOJo

this game and okami are YOOOOOOOO as fuck
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>>336161163
If you still want to play it, the game is certainly for you. Just take your time and learn how to play. Once you put on some armour you'll be fine.
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>>336160158
Damn underworld spirits look cool.
I want to be an invader with a nega-aura too, /v/, pls tell me that will happen.
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give me a challenge I should do with the demo
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>>336161934

fists only, heaviest armor you can find
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>>336160718

Dark Souls 3 feels stale as fuck to me. Every time I boot it up and see a dog I want to neck myself. Cant fucking stand the rehashing anymore.
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>>336161934

Fist only. Parry every human and kill them like that.
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>>336161970
sounds fun, ill record myself fighting the boat boss

are there any neat hand tricks I can do against the boat boss? Like, william can catch swords, but can he catch the rocks or anything like that? I know he's only human, but japs think whities are gods or something, so who knows.
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Never played a dark souls game or anything siimlar, so Ni-oh is my first foray into the 'hardcore' action game. I kept dying to Nue for over an hour. I was so frustrated and angry I wanted to quit so many times. But then it happened. I don't know how, but I ran into the boss area as usual after respawning at east shrine, then BAM. Nearly perfect run. Got hit like only thrice the whole fight and I finally took the fucker down. I feel like I got a bit gud today.
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>>336162150

Guess is time to find out anon.

>mfw anon comes back with all sorts of new bare fist parries and techniques making fists the most op build in the game
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>>336161329
you can when sheathed otherwise you get fatrolls
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>>336159309
It's in the upgrade tree. You're just unobservant.
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>>336159117
Sloth makes the enemy move slow. Makes sweeps far more manageable and you can get WAY more hits to drain their stamina
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>>336160158
>8:41
LUNAR
STAFF
NEVER
DIES
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The skill tree needs to be reworked with sub categories in stances.
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>Doesnt matter how experienced I am if I fuck up 1 move I am 1 shotted

Is like I really am playing Bushido Blade. I thought the double damage from the back only applied to enemies but a ronin just did 1,500 damage to me while I was wearing full armor.
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>>336160158

Why is this guy so pro and I am so shit?
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>>336158669
35 Just kidding, I have no idea
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>>336162876
>fagbois always complaining about boobyarmor and shit not being realistic enough
>getting cut in half is too realistic dou
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>>336158280

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJfNBmF5C0
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>>336158856
>Tokyo Drifter

People playing Nioh have some fine taste
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>>336161335
>>336161684
I'm still dying to the first two guys after like half an hour. I just cant fight multiple guys at once.
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I really like this game but I wish I didn't have to be some white haired witcher faggot.

Why can't we just make our own dudes? I hope there's at least other characters to choose from in the final product.
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>>336160158
oh thats pretty cool,
hopefully you can just set R1+O as default weapon swap unless you hold it
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>fist parry axe
>he stabs him with the fucking axe
this nigga is hardcore
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>>336163513
If you're that much of a bitch that dislike playing western characters then feel free to leave feedback on on Koei Tecmo's page requesting for custom characters.
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>>336163513
show some fucking respect to williamsama
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>>336163627
I see now, so instead of just mashing heal like souls games your expect to literally cancel recovery animation with R1+O
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>>336162442
looks like the mortal draw
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>>336163684
>kick someone on the ground
>their fucking head pops off
this nigga is HARD CORE
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Spear > Katana > Axe
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>>336163897
>doesn't allow you to backstep into iai
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>>336164232
>yet
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>>336163513
>Why can't we just make our own dudes?

You mean make your own bland character?

What would it add to the game if you played as a fat bald black guy that looks like a disney villain?
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>>336163513
>whining about not being able to create your own character

jesus christ, is this what modern gamers are like?
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>>336164458
nevermind actually you can but it's not great
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Damn Nue was disappointing as hell.

People hyped him up but I had a way easier time with him than the other the other SMT starter demon.
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>>336164717
when you make a souls like people are going to be mad that features from soulsborne games are absent like character creaters
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>>336164849
people care about souls terrible character creator?
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>>336164849
>implying this game is a """"soulslike""""
That's how you can tell which people started playing video games last gen
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>>336164920
this so much
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>>336164849
>game shares some similarities with souls games
>"why isn't x feature in???"

The character creation adds nothing, especially in the Souls games. Not only is your character covered up or looks like a raisin almost constantly, but there is borderline 0 roleplay and your gender/race/etc changes nothing.

Dragon's Dogma at least made your gender and size matter a little bit.
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Come at me you nerds. Do my opinions trigger you? I hope so.
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>>336165413
>Music
>Normal
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has anyone seen a level 30+ grave on the beach, just curious
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>>336165413
>comment on the story in a demo focused on gameplay and then suggests character creation because dark souls has it
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>>336165645

It was generic as fuck.
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Two questions, my fellow conquerors:

a. Is there any way to get to the world map without using one of those items?

2. Is anyone else having a problem with the boss(es) loading while playing coop? I've been trying to help other people on the first chapter, but the two times they've walked onto the boat, I get stuck on the loading screen for several minutes before closing the game.
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This is literally my face right now.

How do I get good? If I fight more than one enemy at a time I get fucking ruined.
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I tried to play this for 30 minutes and just gave up. It seems cool and I'll pick up the full game, but holy shit what a poorly put together demo. Seems like the entire thing was designed around PRETTY HARD RIGHT? HARDER THAN DARK SOULS!

Except all it is is learning how to kite enemies. That's it. Hopefully the full game is better.
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>>336166179

Spears bruh

https://youtu.be/HPmUPfN33a8?t=107
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>>336166179
Use midstance axe or spear as they are great for crowd control. Also learn how to parry with mid stance katana as it makes fighting muliple enemies a little easier.
Also dark souls rules apply so git gud at pulling single enemies with stones and bows. This is a methodical game and if you fuck up it punishes you for not clearing an exit and making sure that there is no one behind you.
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>>336166420
nerf pls
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Had to take a break because workout and work but when do you get any armor? Being 2 shot fucking feels bad man. Also how do the spirit things work?
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>>336166262
just skip the full game, so we dont have to listen to your crying when it comes out
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How do you get summoned as a visitor by someone else?
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>Barely beat the cyclops oni guarding nue entrance
>Feel satisfied
>So rush in
>Fuck i'm outta of healing items
>He gets me with that roll attack
>Literally at 20 health at the beginning of the fight
>Fuck it I'm going through with it
> Keep blocking his attacks and dodging his lighting
>get him to middle of his health
>Stagger him and use that spirit dolphin
>rekt his ass like no tomorrow
Fuck not even dark souls gave me this feeling of accomplishment but damn I might be bying this game
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>>336166558

Why? They are perfectly balanced and take a lot of time to master.
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>>336166790
On the mission map select a mission and press square to use match making.
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>>336166179
Listen, negroid. Focus on one weapon, imo, and learn skills and upgrade that weapon's abilities.

I focused on katana: Learning "kick" was one of the best decisions I made; it takes their ki and pushes them back. Also both types of parries, and pretty much threw everything I could into mid-stance skills. I also got the crazy high-stance finisher and upgraded high-stance a bit for times when I want to sneak up on enemies and knock them out quickly.

Get some ninjutsu and magic too. I recommend shurikens for pulling.

When I am so fortunate as to aggro more than one enemy at a time, that's when the parries come in handy the most. Better practice those.

I threw a bunch of levels on the top two stats (the ones that focus on life and ki).

When you get past the miniboss, use the surroundings of the following shrine as a place to grind a little bit while you practice combat.
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I guess I'm the only one having issues with loading the boss in coop. Shit suck!

Also, where is this survey everyone keeps talking about?

>>336166009
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>>336161684
>didn't parry
>didn't block
>didn't ki regen R1 thing that I literally couldn't figure out
>didn't spirit weapon thing since i kept forgetting
still got through the demo by pure force. and axe.
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>>336167184

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_us
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>Finished the entire demo without using my guardian spirit living weapon ability

how do i use it?
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>>336167348
triangle and circle
the game literally tells you in the first area
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>>336157910
Just made it to the second Why is everyone saying YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in these threads? What does "Don't watch an anime called Boku" have to do with this game?
https://youtu.be/1fjX-OXl0pk
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>>336166262

Please refer to

>>336160158
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>youtube
>THE DARK SOULS OF NINJA GAIDEN HAHA xD
what the fuck happened
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>>336167329
Thank you, child.
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Are you supposed to get another DLC after you defeat Nue? I got Mark of the Conqueror but after that, nothing.
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>>336167461

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU
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>>336166179
Pick a weapon, learn it, upgrade the skillsand stats for it.
Invest minimally in ninjutsu for fire shurikens.
Invent minimally in magic for the anti-yoki barriers.
After that, do as you will.
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Weapon change mid combo doesnt work. How do you do it?
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>>336167572
No. Just the accomplishment of being a conqueror.
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Game is a lot more fun than I thought it would be.
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>>336158856

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJPyuL_rzwg
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>>336167747
>Invent minimally in magic for the anti-yoki barriers.

Just ki pulse, use the slot for caltrops or something
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>>336166760
Do you really think the demo had good enemy placement with the level design? It was literally designed to be "oh can't go here because I get fucked by multiple guys, guess I'll go here". It was Fallout New Vegas levels of nonsense.

>>336167521
I appreciate it, I already looked into similar stuff. The shitty level design of the demo wouldn't be so bad if they at least had more information regarding combat techniques (for example, a dummy mode for you to test stances and skills on), but its like DaS2 powerstancing times 10. Needlessly shitty and obtuse.

But yeah I'm going to be getting the game because it seems like its just a case of a garbage demo.
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>>336167631
> Beat a boss
> do one of the kabuki gestures

YOOOOOOOOOO
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>>336167996
you're just playing it like a retard
stop running ahead and pulling multiple enemies for no reason
use your bow and be more careful
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>>336167406
I remember seeing something saying living weapon but forgot about it somehow.
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>>336168147
>you're just playing it like a retard
That's amazing, please give me some tips.

>stop running ahead and pulling multiple enemies for no reason
Oh you mean like how I was playing it? Like how I addressed that was a major issue I had? Let's see what I wrote:
>>336166262
>Except all it is is learning how to kite enemies.

Eat shit dude, the demo was garbage and was literally just about pulling enemies.
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>>336167996
>Do you really think the demo had good enemy placement with the level design?

I thought it was pretty good, yes.
If you have trouble managing multiple enemies you can aggro them one by one with shuriken, rocks, arrows, etc.
With good awareness you can always spot or hear them before they attack. I can't think of a single enemy placement I thought was bullshit.
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>>336167951
Shit, they do the same thing?
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>>336168414
I guess bullshit was a poor word. Tedious is a better one.
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>>336168389
>stop playing like a retard and pulling multiple enemies
>BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING DONT TELL ME TO STOP
then stay retarded
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>>336168575
Are you illiterate? Do you not understand what the quoted post says?
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>>336168389
> game encourages you to play smart and not like an idiot
> even tells you in the death screen that you should play smart and not be a fool
> WHY CAN'T I RETARD RUSH EVERY ENEMY?!

You're just bad.

There's literally only one spot in the entire first stage where enemy congestion becomes a problem, and even then only two of the enemies are awake and dual trigger. The easiest solution being a drop attack and activating your spirit guardian to just slaughter them.
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>>336168389
>sucking ass at the game
>comes into a thread about the game to whine and call it shit

you're literally deluding yourself that it's the game's "fault" and not yours. there are countless ways to fight and deal with multiple enemies with the stances and new moves you can learn.

if you have this much trouble accepting that you're bad then really, don't play it.
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>>336167749
Pls respond
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>>336168575
>>336168775
You guys realize I was kiting enemies one at a time, right? Your advice is just silly and you seem massively triggered about me not needing it, because I was already doing that. I just got bored.

>>336168798
>here are countless ways to fight and deal with multiple enemies
Such as?
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>>336168850

I think is a skill you learn like this anon said >>336162482
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>>336168568
>Tedious is a better one.

How is it tedious? Once you get the bow (which you get early) you can even headshot enemies for often OHKO.
You don't even need to pull enemies one by one, but you can do it if you feel you need to.
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>>336168389
Pull enemies one by one when possible, which is most of the time. Groups are difficult as hell.

Don't square up too often, be agile and on the move always. Be aware of your ki bar, switching stances/dodging in low stance restore ki and avoids the stamina stun. You have little to no Iframes when dodging, learn the hitboxes of attacks as some attacks can be dodged "through" do to the hitbox. Generally, dodge away from the attack, or behind the enemy as they are starting.
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>>336168950
>WTF THIS GAME IS TOO HARD
>LOL I DIDNT NEED ANY HELP I WAS JUST BORED XD
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>>336168950
You're just proving you're bad yo. If you're kiting that means you can't kill them in one combo. You probably can't aim either since every group has at least one dude without a helmet which is a guaranteed one hit kill with an arrow.

Quit being ass and learn how to play the game.
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>>336168389
Pulling one enemy at a time is smart, but it isn't necessary. Fighting 2+ enemies at once just ups the difficulty enormously.
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>>336168950
>Such as?

Swapping to mid or low stance for horizontal attacks, dodging, counters, positional moves (repositions you or the enemy), aoe moves, stun/knockdown moves, perfect guard, etc.
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>>336169228
No, I was specifically asking for help. Your advice was just silly and not needed.

>>336169098
Because it seemed like it was just constant throughout everywhere I went. I just got tired of it.

>You don't even need to pull enemies one by one, but you can do it if you feel you need to.
See, I'm actually getting confused now, because I keep hearing from people to pull enemies one at a time. Like, that's the main advice I've gotten (which I was using in the demo). But I'm also frequently told that groups are easy to handle as well. Which seems silly, because everyone in this thread seems to also acknowledge how difficult group fights can be just look at the poster below you).

So what am I supposed to do against groups aside from dodging constantly and getting in the ocassional cheap shot? Why should I NOT fight enemies slowly and methodically? Group combat seems really stacked against you in the demo.
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>>336168995
Theres no skill for it ive searched all the skill trees
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>>336168950

There are lots of safe moves. Axes and spears have enough range to hit multiple enemies and you can often get them lined up so they don't surround you. The AI has trouble handling the mid stance katana poke in particular.

If you quickly get tired of kiting enemies and playing the game in a stealthy manner then maybe more straight forward action games are more your thing.
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>>336168437
Yes but I would still use kekkai instead. It also increases ki regen by a shit ton and dispels those yokai realms just by stepping in them which kakes them great for bosses that summon them a lot like nue.
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>>336165413
>>336165720
this. wtf. the story is most likely purposely left out or not even in yet.
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>>336169712
Yeah there is. It's usually for high stance and says something to the effect of "switching stances at the right time will do a ki pulse"
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>>336169705
>See, I'm actually getting confused now, because I keep hearing from people to pull enemies one at a time.

Why are you letting people tell you how to play instead of playing it yourself?

Yes if you absolutely can't deal with multiple enemies then keep pulling them one by one or get better at the game and try harder.

Or do you need to be told in detail how to play every single game you play? When you play Dark Souls do you read up on a wiki, 4chan or whatever constantly?
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>>336169748
>If you quickly get tired of kiting enemies and playing the game in a stealthy manner then maybe more straight forward action games are more your thing.
So you're saying I should focus more on kiting people and avoid group combat even with axes and spears? I guess that applied for the demo, but hopefully the full game isn't so monotonous.
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Can somebody edit this image with Nioh
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>>336169851
You're thinking of the sword skill that gives you extra Ki for switching stances after doing a Ki Pulse.
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is it me or the protag looks like geralt?
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>>336169851
You mean flux? Doesn't do anyyhing
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>>336170497
Just you famalamadingdong. Only you.
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>>336170282
If you can't handle fighting multiple enemies then use your tools to thin them out first, but if you're good enough you can fight multiple enemies at once just fine. It's just more dangerous, as it always is and should always be.
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>>336170280
>Why are you letting people tell you how to play instead of playing it yourself?
Because I'm asking for advice after being pretty disappointed in the demo? I didn't get very far, and I was open to feedback. Am I just supposed to not comment on a game I'm interested in?

>Yes if you absolutely can't deal with multiple enemies then keep pulling them one by one or get better at the game and try harder.
This is pretty interesting. I keep hearing people say I need to pull enemies one at a time, and yet you're telling me that I need to get better at the game so I can deal with multiple enemies. Which is it? Is the game designed to be a stealth game or an action game? If both are viable, great, but it seems like a recipe in tedium in what I played. Again, I think that's more of the level design and enemy placement for a demo that was designed to be "notoriously difficult", though.

>
Or do you need to be told in detail how to play every single game you play?
When the game is obtuse about key gameplay elements I don't see how its a bad thing to ask for tips. Or are you really so ignorant that you haven't seen how many people are struggling with knowing about shit like this:
>>336160158

I think its pretty amusing that people are getting so upset with me over issues I had with the demo.
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>>336170497
nah
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>>336170474
You mean just replacing the black text of Dark Souls with the black text of Nioh? Are you serious?
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How do I regen ki by using kipulse?

I keep changing stance at the right time but it seems there's no additional ki happening?

Sorry, just started my demo. Noob here.
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>>336170740
>Because I'm asking for advice after being pretty disappointed in the demo?

Advice over dissapointment? That's retarded.
You either like it and want to get better at it or you don't like it and getting better at it is pointless.
You're sitting here complaining and whining over trying to get better, which you would do if you actually found the game interesting.
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>>336167749

The youtube description says its after a combo ended which is like 3 or 4 hits later. Then you do the command.

Also fuck google captcha and their disappearing rivers. Fucking annoying.
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Aight, so I've returned from going fists-only, heavy armor-only. Obviously these two things don't flow so well together because fists-only is usually best for a fast, stamina build, but I think I can safely say that, despite instant killing people with parries, fist-only is ass in this game. There's no easy way to deal with onis and other yokai going fist only. I've gotten to the third shrine and killed two onis since I last posted (>>336162150).

This is how I would describe going fist only in this game. Imagine Metal Gear Solid 3 where all the bosses have a stamina meter in addition to their health meter. There are multiple ways in MGS3 to knock down the stamina meter but the most common way is simply using the tranq gun. Now imagine every single common mook in the game were MGS3 bosses and the only way you can kill them is by using your tranq gun to tick down your stamina. Now imagine having five bosses fighting you at once, all with their own stamina.

Don't get me wrong, going fist only in this game is pretty cool because it really changes what the game is like. Its really not about dealing damage with fists, but about taking away the enemy's stamina enough to whip out a flurry of combos when the enemy has ran out of breath, more so than weapon builds. But I've tried to parry every attack an oni can dish out and nothing works.

also, this is really weird, but you drain stamina faster with fists. Perhaps its because I'm using heavy armor mainly, but fists has no ki pulse, which I got really used to using to continue combos.
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>>336170740
You can do both since there are a lot of cc moves and you can switch weapons mid combo
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>>336170928
Watch your Ki after you attack. You'll see a white bar fill up before it starts recovering for real. When you hit R1 you'll do the Ki Pulse and recover it up to where the white bar was. There's a bit of timing to it so you can get the maximum amount of Ki, and if you do it perfectly you dispel those pools of dark energy that Yokai leave behind.
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>>336170928

When you use an attack, look at your bar. There will be a red segment that will fill up rapidly with a white bar. Pressing R1 will fill up that white portion. If you do it on a low stance, you get an automatic ki pulse from dodging.
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>>336170928
When the blue particles form a circle around the protag you press R1. If you time it correctly you will regain all stamina/ki and get a blue silhouette effect around william
https://youtu.be/ONfUQ_eTOF8?t=16s

You can also look at the stamina/ki bar and time it once the white meter fills up.
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How do you summon a visitor?
I placed the cups at the shrine, and it says that i am currently offering cups, but beyond that nothing ever happens.

Do i need to look for something specific like summon signs?
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>white person in feudal japan
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>>336171750
Are you in the second level?
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>>336171880
kinda like real life
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>>336170740
Both are viable. People are acting the way they are because it was very obvious you didn't get very far and you seem totally dismissive of the game and it's systems before even trying to learn them. A few people have been like this and start blaming the game instead of looking at the mechanics and what they might be doing wrong, then learning how to play the game.
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>>336158856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egX56yiZ2WY
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>>336171058
Don't forget it's contradictory whining.

> It's stupid because LOL HARDER THAN SOULS RIGHT?

Only it's just souls players bitching that they can't play it like souls. The game encourages you to play smart.

> Oh but that's boring!

Is it hard or boring? Who the fuck knows. Apparently it's really easy though so that contradicts the first bitching all together.

> it's obtuse!

Yet it explains mechanics better than souls games ever did. With voice over and text every time you need to use a certain mechanic for the first time, videos to see how attacks work, a combo list available with customization, and an encyclopedia in the menu to review any mechanics you might have missed or need a refresher on.

If Souls had this level of transparency people would be bitching that Souls is being casualized and hand holding.
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>>336171923
No first, on my second character.
Thought i'd try out the coop while trying to make a magic build
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>>336171750
You just place a cup and do whatever, eventually if it finds someone they'll join your game. I just started playing so maybe you'll get me but I'll be sticking to the second level mostly since I'd make the first one too easy.
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I got a lvl 43 Raikiri in my first Nue try fap fap fap fap
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>>336157910
would this game satisfy me as a katana enthusiat?
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>>336172451
Yes.
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>>336172134
Souls combat isn't deep whatsoever so there's no reason to show you a fucking video of how to do a fucking light attack, so i don't understand what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>336172451
Go back to /v/eddit
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>>336172451
Yes, you can also steal birthdays.
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>>336172140
Summoning never worked for me on the 1st level, I don't know if you can or not but I doubt it.
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>>336172451
Very much so.
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>>336172451

You can take every motherfuckes birthday.
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>>336171058
>Advice over dissapointment? That's retarded.
How so? I figured I was missing something.

>You either like it and want to get better at it or you don't like it and getting better at it is pointless.
You realize its possible to like a game and admit the demo was pretty shitty, right? I love the Etrian Odysey games but they Untold 1 has a beyond shit demo.

>You're sitting here complaining and whining over trying to get better, which you would do if you actually found the game interesting.
No, actually, I'm discussing Nioh and complaining about the issues I had with the demo. You're the one whining about my posts without contributing to Nioh discussion.

>>336171193
See, switching weapons midcombo would have been a great thing to have in the demo beyond a loading screen message. This is good stuff, thanks.

>>336172054
>People are acting the way they are because it was very obvious you didn't get very far and you seem totally dismissive of the game and it's systems before even trying to learn them.
People can't read since I've said multiple times I'm getting the game anyways and want to play more. Pretty disappointed to see spergs like this:
>>336172134
But what can you expect, its /v/.
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>/v/ complains about forced tutorials
>game doesnt have a forced tutorial
>WTF THIS GAME IS TOO HARD FUCKING SHIT GAME
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>>336172773
The demo is a forced tutorial, though. Just a badly designed one.
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So what were your suggestions for the game /v/?
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What skills am I boosting if I want to use spears? Also why do almost all the learned skill involve blocking? Why would I waste 1/3 of my ki to block and do something when I could easily sidestep and just attack their backs?
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>>336172841
Right, sure it is.
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>>336172630
You weren't contributing from the start. All you've done is say something is stupid, or bad, or whined. Then when it's pointed out that the game itself tells you shit in various places you just ignore it then say the game doesn't tell you it.
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freed from this mortal coil
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>>336172890
If i remember correctly they scale the most with body just check and see what gets the most boosts when you level something.
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I hope they add some more guardians

>Graceful Koi
>Tiger
>Dragon
>Thousand year old Turtle

As for armours?
I want some fucking geta and go full Heihachi
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>>336158856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hySoCSoH-g8
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>>336172841
Or you suck at videogames. It's okay, don't worry, go play some cod or candy crush.
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>>336158491
Thats not all he beat
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>>336172841
It's designed very well actually. Your first encounter is a lone enemy with plenty of room to move so you can learn the basics. Then the next enemies you see are one with his back turned to you and a slower but heavier hitting enemy so you can both learn to ambush enemies and deal with a new form of attack. Then afterwards you fight a spear wielder in a narrow path, showing the importance of your location, and following that, an enemy ambush teaches being further aware of your surroundings and choosing when and where to attack. I could go on but hopefully people get the picture.
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Try using mid stance spear and only use triangle repeatedly on every enemy. It's retardedly strong
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Beat the entire demo solo, my only issue is the speed that weapons and armor degrade, I'm assuming that in the full game there will be some sort of store where you can buy the glue and whetstones to fix this issue a little.
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>>336173452
Probably. There isn't anything to use your money on at the moment besides switching blessings.
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>>336173002
>You weren't contributing from the start
No, I was talking about Nioh every single post.

>All you've done is say something is stupid, or bad, or whined.
Says the guy whining. If you don't like my posts, report them. Just because I didn't like the demo doesn't mean I'm not allowed to post about Nioh. Also since I'm getting the game, you better get used to me posting.
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>>336159124
I am a conqueror, got the mark to prove it
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Fun game, but what is up with the performance/visuals? Neither on Action mode nor Movie mode it runs as well as it should, especially in the burning village before Onryoki.

I like that we can choose between prioritizing either FPS or resolution, but it seems like no matter what is picked, both are garbage.

Good gameplay, though.
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>>336173452
Once you start offering things, durability becomes a nonissue, but there'll almost certainly be a shop to buy things from as well as a blacksmith to fix stuff.
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>>336159124
I'm a conqueror just like DSP
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>>336159124
I'm a conqueror.
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dont mind me just posting the objectively good souls game
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>atleast 5k people got the mark of the conqueror

What is your excuse?
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>>336173779
>mfw beating onryoki
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>>336174275
>atleast 5k people
wow, that's really fucking low compared to the 30 million ps4 owners. I know most ps4 owners are casual af, but I think it has more to do with the demo being impossible to find on the psn coupled with the lack of any big announcement. Anyway, how do you know 5k people go it? does it say on the downloads page?
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>>336174275
I was busy with school and I would rather play Dark Souls 3.
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>>336173508
you did
well done on being a cumdrinking, brainwashed peon too
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>>336174451
it shows the amount of how many people *liked* the dlc
it was at 200 when i got it
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I get to keep the mark if I delete the demo after it stops being available right?
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>>336174751

Yes.
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>>336173508
Is this really the face of the /v/ Nioh fanbase? Jesus Christ, at least clean up the lines and border.
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>>336174751
I would assume so, since it's a separate thing you download.

Also I'm pretty sure water element's status effect lowers defence, that's another one to the list.
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>>336172451
movie name?
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This demo is the best game of the year so far. No other game has such satisfying combat, only Bloodborne comes close.
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How do i beat the first boss
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>>336175936
become a conqueror
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>>336175936
Don't get hit and hit it till it dies. You gotta be more specific about what's beating you.
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siiiigh
now I have to dust off the ps4, ew ew ew
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When will the demo become unavailable?
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>>336176757
6th
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>>336176109
>>336176757
the demo ends an May 5th.
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>>336157910
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1dlnqYUEZw
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>>336176943
What you cant play a singleplayer game after may 5th?!
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>>336177000
fucking lol
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>>336177021
You have to be online to play
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>>336177021
>always online mandatory
gee I wonder why
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>>336177159
>>336177157
Wow very souls like
that IS artificial difficulty
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>>336177021
It's a limited time alpha demo.
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>>336177281
wow nice meme, son. Where can I subscribe to your meme blog?
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>>336177021
because it's a limited time demo
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>>336177386
send me an msn messenger invite
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>>336177453
wow so retro. Does it have an rss feed as well?
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>>336171880
>based off real life events
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>>336157910
>first run through tried to avoid katanas as much as possible since those weapons are gay as fuck
>struggle through most of the demo, but beat both areas

>decide to try again but this time use only katanas
>everything is easy as piss
It's not even that I know what I'm doing now, all I do is mash square in mid stance and hit r1 occasionally, and anything that isn't a yokai or some mega-cock in huge armor gets stunlocked. Another game where katanas are OP pieces of shit, great.
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>just realize there's a path to avoid ninja oni
bravo TN they though about speedrunners
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>>336177538
Haha, yeah xD
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