What would you pick?
2
3 or 4, so not to fuck up the obvious romance chain I've picked
>>336150306
1 then romance Jaheira
>>336150306
Where's the option where I can de-cuck the situation by raping her one last time and kill her?
I hate RPGs like this, there is no roleplaying at fucking all.
>romancing anyone but Anomen
Fuck otta here senpai
>>336150306
3.
You have to be a legit retard to think that a drow isn't a turboslut.
C
U
C
K
>Playing EE
Reconsider your life choices.
However, I'd likely pick 2 or 4.
>>336150637
She'd probably like that.
>>336150765
>wanting to kill best girl
You better kill yourself first.
I choose the x button because crpgs make me want to kill myself
>>336150306
4 obviously. She thought that relationships can't be a thing and tried to break up.
>>336150887
Jaheira and Viconia are okay with eachother it's Aerie that causes tension
>>336150765
Should've let her burn at the stake
>>336151141
I think she tries to make you jelly a bit to test you. Also she doesn't understand (drow culture thing) that men can be loved and trusted so she tries to back off after she opened herself a little.
>>336151071
>knife ear sympathizer
You'll hang next to her.
>>336151141
well she was a pleasure slave so she wasn't lying about being a whore.
>>336150306
I'd pick uninstall EE. for ruining everything with Fanfiction bullshit.
>>336151415
Shut your mouth rivvil dog lest you want your tongue cut out. Then your heart ripped off in the name of spider queen.
Ignore her.
Then when we get to the Drow city I let all those nasty drow bitches faun over my strength and watch her get fucking jelly.
>want to make a normal baldurs gate thread - 10 replies and it dies
>op makes a bait thread, people start bitching about ee and arguing, thread is alive
>>336151438
Did she tell it during romance dialogues? I can't remember it.
Go into nearby building, get best katana in a game, wreck the game
>>336152443
this btw
And now she calls me a loving lust. Feels good man.
>>336152418
This guy lies like a rivvin dog he is
>>336152443
I already use it , but thx anyway.
>>336150306
i think of new baldurs gate with unreal engine 4 with same POV.
>>336153076
Just make a new story. I hate when beamdog says about baldurs gate 3 being possible when bhaalspawn saga has clearly ended in throne of bhaal.
>>336153052
No, wiki page about Viconia has mention about pleasure slave thing. But i actually don't remember her dialogue about it, maybe it's from manual or something.
>>336153501
Because she wasn't a pleasure slave. She only seduced one merchant to protect her and finally killed him. So nothing weird for drow women. They are thaught that men are worthless and can be used as tools and sextoys. Even more if you consider that it is a surfacer. All the thing is that she can't get used to surface customs being completely different
>>336153747
>She was saved from a goblin attack by a Calishite caravan only to be used as a pleasure slave by its rotund owner. She quickly bent him to her will and bade the caravan go wherever she wished. However, one night, his heart gave out and the guards assumed Viconia had murdered him.
And that goblin attack, i don't remember that. I think she could handle goblins.
>>336153747
so she was a pleasure slave until she seduced the merchant. How many dicks did she suck until she seduced the merchant?
>>336154226
You like reading between lines don't you?
>>336150306
I´d say "cast off your old beliefs and be saved!"
If not, "death to the disbelievers!"
>>336155069
Too late. Unseeing eye is dead already m8.
test
>>336150306
5. HELM SEES ALL. KNOW THAT AND BE JUDGED.
>>336155323
Sad thing that dorn quests makes you kill all helmites.
>>336150771
>being gay
>>336155230
That´s what you believe, cast that shit off and be saved.
Or else!
Nathyrra is the better drow waifu. All the hotness of a drow woman with none of the evil or bitchiness. Plus, she's willing to have a three-way relationship with you and another woman.
>>336156296
There is something in NWN series that repulses me. Maybe this hack and slashy feeling to it.
>>336156296
She's quite simple compared to Viconia.
Waifufags aren't bad they said
>>336156467
Devs said we need a drowfu in series to attract drowfags.
>>336156630
I'm not complaining.
>>336156720
Neither am I, drowfag op
>>336156446
The OC doesn't make up the entire game anon.
Get the fuck over to /vg/ with this faggotry. When a thread has turned into pure waifu talk it means it's time to move one.
>>336157927
Is it worth giving a try to expansions now?
Shilling my portrait pack again. It's only for Aerie, Viconia, Valygar, Edwin, Imoen, Haer'Dalis, and Jaheira though.
https://mega.nz/#!MZQjSQSD!5YUcEmqaxySYOvExHFyJpmbThXg0fjEInUU0nJFNyE4
>>336158251
The expansions are much better and separate from the original campaign. Don't forget to check out some custom modules too.
>>336158739
I love 3 edition the only thing that puts me off is the way bioware implemented the system and that camera following the character. It makes me feel like in diablo that i hate.
>not killing drow on sight
Around blacks, never relax.
Around Elves, watch yourselves.
>>336158956
I would recommend getting a camera mod that lets you zoom out or in way more with a little less fog of war. The Henchman AI mod will give you more control over them and make them do less stupid shit too. There's some good graphics mods in this list too.
http://lilura1.blogspot.com/p/nwn-utility-visual-mods.html
>>336158739
I like these. Is that all you're going to do or will there be portraits for other NPCs too?
>that drow-tier backstory
>that rocky relationship
>can't raise a happy family with her without it ending in tragedy.
>best you two can do is ascend to godhood and make her your mortal consort
Viconia can't catch a break can she?
>filthy yaluk
fucking viconia making muh dick hard, why is baldurs gate dialog so goat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7b4WB6oHdI
>>336159363
I didn't make them myself I only cropped and converted them. The person who made them is from tumblr or deviantart and draws DA and witcher 3 pictures now.
>>336159408
It says on her sheet that she's evil so it's fine.
>>336159638
>anon didn't get her to change alignment
You're bad at helping your waifus
>>336159537
23:12 _ intense, I opened a bag of cashews gonna watch it whole
Question, /v/:
Which BG II girl has the best romancetheme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AChv9glfKUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kspjfsM6DQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg7qOLq7vHM
>>336159741not in npc flirtpack, then there are more ending available
>>336160141
I hesitate myself from watching it, better play the whole game
>>336160175Best girlof course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViufZBVHUbE&ab_channel=Nekokumagoro
>>336150637
this
>>336160234
Is that a mod? I'm not including those because then everything becomes a possible outcome.
>>336160784
Yes a mod that improves romances so they have more flavour while staying true to what they are. I enjoy them so far.
>>336160904
Might have a go at it then haven't done my yearly BG playthrough yetdesu I got put off of mods after I saw that Imoen incest mod.
>>336160234
>I hesitate myself from watching it, better play the whole game
I got hooked, they started romancing, but she decided in the 32 minute that she wants to end the relationship, this is some intense shit going on. gonna continue
>>336161447
ToB, Anon
>>336161135
Avoid it and you will be fine. Install mods in listed order.
bg2tweaks
Ascension
Wheels of Prophecy
Unfinished Business
Banterpack
Iepbanters
Npc Flirtpack
Sword Coast Stratagems
Then you have a fully modded experience. There are also quest mods but they are optional.
>>336161447
No more spoilers pls. I haven't romanced best girl in 4 years since i played bg and my memory is cloudy. Finally she said my Nalfein that she loves him.
>>336161726
>No more spoilers pls. I haven't romanced best girl in 4 years since i played bg and my memory is cloudy. Finally she said my Nalfein that she loves him.
Just revealed why she was banned from the underdark. They could make a movie about this woman.
>>336159537
>Kivan
>>336159537
>>336160141
>>336161447
now I have to watch it too
>>336161726
What's the difference between banterpack and lepbanters?
>>336160141
>Viconia: Before we sleep, I have a question that requires your ... indulgence. What do you think of "love" Kivan, I wish to understand it further.
>Kivan: I love you Viconia, I know that much.
Hey guys how to trigger certain dialogues? I'm after the part op had. Now there should be a part that she forgives you yet i get nothing and she is pissed off at me through a long time. Then after the sleep i get a lovetalk that indicates that im futher in romance.
So how obvious is her romance, I know you have to pick a few more rude option with her or she loses interest but which ones? I plan to do her path next playthrough.
>>336163234
They are both seperate mods adding more party dialogues.
>>336165847
I have had repeated dialogues in EE. Maybe a bug.
>>336166207
I think you wanted to reply to >>336165237
I haven't had much problems with EE, why do people complain about it?
>>336166338
I lke ee myself, but now i have to replay whole 3 stronghold quests to reverse the bug with viconia.
>>336166606
But again I would like to ask my question. What exactly do i need to say for her romance, I read somewhere that you need to pick more rude options at time or she loses interest. But I don't know which ones and I am worried I might pick a rude option at a time I shouldn't and ruin it.
I have had no bugs or problems with EE besides losing that one stalker dude as a party member since I pissed off his butler before meeting him in that shack.
>>336165993
Do they add any ToB banter?
>>336166975
You need to be very sure of yourself. Also viconia likes to sex you early and you should not refuse her. Then try to always be gentle to her and insult her even if she tries to cast you off.
>>336167085
I don't know
>>336166338
Yeah, missed the link.
>why do people complain about it?
Because after all those patches game still has bugs.
>>336166975
Check
>BG2: SoA Romancing Guide by Extremist
http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/index_tips.php
>>336167221
Don't insult her or do? I don't know if you typo'd I only romanced "muh wings" So far which was generic "pick the nicest option" So I want to be sure.
>>336167275
I haven't had any bugs throughout both the first and second game. Maybe I am just lucky. Though my mages are pretty dumb when it comes to casting and like to wait a second ruining my strats.
>>336167451
Never insult her. Just show her that you are strong and sure of yourself. It will make her wet as waterfall.
>>336167601
Ah so roleplay the cockey asshole who is super nice to his friends. Got it.
>>336167552
Check beamdog forums for bug reports if you don't believe.
Is Berserker, Jaheira, Viconia, Edwin, Aerie, and Imoen a viable party setup?
>>336167752
Jesus I am lucky. I just have to hope my mage becomes half competent and stops trying to walk through party members to cast fireball.
>>336168043
Thats actually a pretty good party, although jaheira is pretty replaceable if you aren't romancing her.
>>336168043
Can do. But aerie will be butthurt and make other girls angry.
>>336168218
She's my fave party member
>>336168240
As someone who romanced Aerie, she gets butthurt about pretty much everything. So many party members make her either complain every five seconds or leave.
>>336168240
That is why I'm taking her along.
Do not speak to me or my wife's son ever again.
>>336168384
>fucking a Drow
>ever
WABALABA DOO
>>336150306
>having sex with a drow female
Literally no one is this stupid, so she's lying
>>336168846
can you play a shiba inu in d&d
So any good edwin romance mod's out there? Don't act like you just put him in your party because he is a good mage. I know what you really want.
>>336168990
There is a legit edwin romance mod. But thje requirements are harsh. You need to be human female with high inteligence and charisma.
>>336168990
I only do romances when playing as a girl if there are lesbian ones
>>336168043
Almost everything is viable, the game is not that hard, I would include another tank though.
>>336169132
>I am 13
>>336169123
>First sidequest gives you a ring for 18 char
>Not making your mc a mage or mage dual/multi class
Seems pretty easy to do. Is the mod well written?
>>336169132
>not wanting to be with edwin or paladin wannabe
>>336169245
As a berserker should I roll with two weapon fighting or should I go with 2handers? I could nab lilarcor at the start.
>>336169469
Both options are goat. Just a matter of taste.
>>336150306
Option 6: Be upset she isn't interested in women
>>336169558
I think I'll go 2handers then since my last playthrough was two weapon fighting.
>>336169469
Both are fine but two weapon fighting is the superior choice because of the extra attacks, specially if you use some bonus granting off hand weapon (Crom Faeyr).
Both options are good though, there are some pretty sick two-handed weapons in the game.
>>336169648
You know you have to be at least 18 to post here?
>>336169683
>I forgot to make my kensai take two weapon fighting.
Welp time to start over since single weapon is god awful
>>336169778
You know this game came out in like, 2000, right?
>>336160175
Aerie honestly
So two weapon fighting with war hammers is best right? Since crom faeyr is probably the best weapon.
>>336169901
So what?
>>336150306
>want to play mage/thief
>game fucking throws thieves and mage/thieves at me
>>336169289
yes
>>336169750
Now I'm having second thoughts. Are there any good axes in BG2? Might go axes and warhammers.
>>336170134
>If someone was acting like a teenager when they played a game as long as 15 years ago they must be under 18
>>336168043
the npcs kinda suck in this game, you should make your own party using eekeeper because multiplayer mode doesnt have automatic healing
>>336170128
Is best secondary weapon, because of the 25 strength effect, there are other more damaging weapons, the ideal would be using a powerful weapon as main hand and crom faeyr as off hand.
>>336170335
That's retarded and not what I asked at all.
>>336170335
Why keeper when there is a create party button?
>>336170363
but war hammer proficiency is the way to go?
>>336170264
Axe of the Unyielding +5 with vorpal effect.
>>336170569
yes.
>>336151990
Lies, BG threads never fucking die. I wish they'd do. It's sickening to see one almost constantly up.
>>336170569
one point is enough for an offhand. For right hand longswords or flails are cool
>>336170462
all right sweetheart i will answer your question,
its not very viable because you only have like 2 fighter types if you count jaheira as a fighter which she really isn't much of one because of low strength value
>>336170790
Is there not a good primary warhammer so I can just put points in it?
>>336170873
The game hands out strength belts and gauntlets like candy
Does anyone know where Viconia goes after you save her from the stake? Coming back to a save after a several month break from the game and can't for the life of me find her.
>>336171114
Northwestern part of the crypts
>>336171114
The graveyard.
>>336171152
>>336171190
Thanks gents.
>>336170975
There are good weapons in every type.
>>336171506even katana's for edgelords?
>>336170873
BG2 is nowhere hard enough that the party members aren't 'viable'. They are for the most part suboptimal, sure, but the game is filled with so many fucking broken items it means nothing. You could make a party full of nothing but 10 strength fighters and still stomp shit after a few hours.
>>336171705
Celestial Fury, is one of the best one handed weapons of SoA, not taking in account ToB.
>>336171742
When "optimal" is 18 in every stat it's no wonder they're suboptimal and the game was never meant to be played that way unless you use one of those autistic tactics mods that dump level 20 enemies in Irenicus' Dungeon.
>>336171705
The katana actually has one of the best unique weapons available. You won't find much to use until you get it, though.
>>336171742
That is a bit of a stretch considering mages dish out confusion like it's candy.
>>336171985
it's a shame celestial fury is only a +3 weapon, better to install the mod that makes it upgradeable to a +5 with a demon heart and wand of lightning
>>336171914
I might actually do a katana and warhammer beserker. Although I hope I can still get a +5 katana or I won't hit shit.
>>336172498
After celestial fury there are no good katanas in game.
>>336172779
I'll just stick to war hammers then, stops me from wasting proficiency slots anyway.
>>336172498
You really don't need a +5 weapon at all honestly, by the time you can get any in the expansion, AC and THAC0 have long since stopped scaling and nearly all hits will connect.
>>336173102
Yeah but is a +3 able to hit enemies with weapon resistance? If my primary weapon has no effect there will be a problem.
I normally play a mage so I don't know.
>>336173102
Demogorgon requires +4 iirc.
>>336150306
Vic just wants to be loved and cuddled with.
These kind girls get me the most.
>>336173319
there are a couple gimmicky enemies like golems that you need a certain + to hit, yes. Unless you are soloing this isn't really a problem as someone else will always have the necessary ability to do it, especially if you have someone using the flail of ages which can basically ignore all that shit.
>>336173396
demiliches too although there are only two or 3 in the game
>>336173812
I forgot all about that weapon. Maybe I should go flail and warhammer since those 2 are pretty much some of the best weapons.
>>336173812
or you can always ctrl + y those types of enemies
which is the best option
>>336150306
>NTR on /v/
>>336174809
>go to hell
>khalid isn't there where he belongs to see you banging his wife
>>336150306
A better game.
>>336151415
Fuck off, you people are worse than the elves.
>>336150306
4
you just told me you're a compulsive liar, why should I believe this new story?
>>336175504
>worse than the elves
Lets not go too far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0
>>336175363
>Khalid's spirit decides to look down on his wife to make sure she is okay
>Jumps right into the mc and her doing the deed
>It's going to be a fun conversation when they all enter the afterlife
>>336161726
>Wheels of Prophecy
>Sword Coast Stratagems
Broken for EE 2.0. Thanks Beamdog.
>Ascension EE
>I'm working on it guys, dont worry.
>3 years later a complet stranger does by himself just like with bg1npc
Thanks beamdog guy
>>336150306
idgaf show me them tittays
>>336175634
manlets are worse than pompous elves
>>336175810
There is a hotfix for SCS to work on EE m8. Here you have it.
http://www102.zippyshare.com/v/pERNgP4G/file.html
>>336175363
Nothing in Khalid's life ever goes well. He is the biggest failure of baldurs gate.
>>336176042
I know, I know, I was just ranting at the air. Thank you for the link.
>>336176015
Knife ear detected.
4 is the obvious answer here
>>336168360
if your playing a male MC the romance dialogues come much faster the more romancable females you have in the party, Aerie Jaheria & Viconia in the same group turns it into your average harem anime of everyone lusting after MC's dick.
you can even throw Haer'Dalis in there and he'll fight you for Aerie
>>336176538
>The game tries to trick you into accepting his duel
>You lose Aerie's romance for doing so
>Screw that guy
I would do that to make it faster, but I fear it could lead to me screwing something up and blocking the option I want.
I never played this game, should I play it?
>>336177475
Yes you should. Helm sees all. Know that and be judged
>>336177728
So what's bad about Enhanced edition? is the only version I can find
>>336178783
Just bugs, although I have never had a problem with them.
>>336178783
Nothing awful if you just want to play baldurs gate straightfoward in a simple way - without particular mods. Don't listen their whining EE is okay to start with.
>>336176129
He died as he lived, like a coward.
Okay i thought i had to replay so many quests but thankfully the dialogue triggered earlier this time with no bugs.
>>336179646
He died how he lived. Useless.
Fixed it for you.
>He gets to spend his time in the afterlife watching his sort of adopted son screw his wife.
>>336179894
He strikes me as the type of guy who likes that sort of thing
>>336150306
4 because she obviously has trust issues.
>>336180230kek
I like to think he is against it and jaheira's dreams are all just her imagination. He is just up their watching this hating himself. Especially because he could probably be revived with a high enough cleric spell.
>It's all just Jaheira's excuse to get into the mc's pants.
>She never actually loved khalid.
>>336180643
>Especially because he could probably be revived with a high enough cleric spell
In real 2nd D&D edition elves could only be brought back by the use of Ressurection spell, which was a 9th level divine spell so it not only required a high level priest but also one that is highly favoured by his God.
In BG2 it's only a 7th level spell for the gameplay sake but I guess are still supposed to think that he couldn't be brought back because reasons.
>>336181429
You can go to the nearest cleric in town and buy that spell. Jaheira clearly just doesn't care. A wish spell could do it as well no matter what happened to the body. She clearly just wanted an excuse to get into the mc's pants like I said.
>>336181429
Was that a mistake, or there are 9 divine spell levels in 2E?
BG1-2 only go up to 7. Is it because higher spells require divine favor?
>>336179865
Does this mean she din't fuck all those people ? that sucks, would be pretty hot to bang her and have her whisper in your ear the amount of orgies she had
>>336182031
She loved nalfein and wanted him but the drow know no such thing as love ant trust. Now the true lewdness begins as we are now openly in relationship.
>>336182372
True lewdness
>Is okay with you sleeping with the other drow girl since society
>Is okay with you sleeping with another girl in TOB saying that she has to prove she is better in bed
>>336182762
Drow customs she was raised with makes her act like that. Rivvil will never understand.
>>336182891
I know it's due to customs.thank you drow customs
>>336182762
This is the most fun part. Making her more humane. Being her protector and making her understand the vast surface world taht she is lost in. Also I use npc flirt pack first time and it lets you do lewd things with your love.
>>336180643
She goes apeshit whenever Aerie trashtalks khalid tho
>>336183902
It's because she's calling her out on her plan.
>>336169286
>i enjoy taking dick
Tfw you will never find a real woman that is as cute as like viconia. Why even live?
>>336185669
>you will never have to deal with drow niggers in real life
thank G-d
>>336185669
Live for the cosplayers.
>>336186125
That cosplay is goddamn awful.
>>336186410I know anon, I literally used the first one I could find since I am lazy as hell, besides I can assure you there is worse.
>>336186653
Thank gods i shall not see it. This cloak looks like trashbag and clothes are not matching.
>>336187328
Again first one I saw is what I posted. There are better one's out there. The makeup looks half decent though, not perfect but decent.
>>336179894
He was an okay fighter
>>336189631
He wasn't that great though, especially since I played as a fighter. There's a reason why he's famous for being killed off to just keep jaheira
>>336181429
Divine (or Priest) spells in AD&D went up to 7th level, and later they added Quest spells which were specialized spells only granted by the deity for specific situations. Resurrection was a 7th level spell. Jaheira's various reasons for turning down a resurrection (body mutilated/wouldn't want to ask a priest to sacrifice 5 years of their lives for a Wish) were pretty weak.
Khalid was also half-elven, which had no restrictions on resurrection.
the flirt mod gets even lewder once you hit ToB
>>336189987
I'm glad BG2 didn't force you to take 2 comoabions if you wanted one of them.
>>336190230
Sometimes a character just needs to die
>>336192804
khalid deserves to die every playthrough
>>336180643
His body was mutilated and it was a long time since he was dead upon discovery which is stated in dialogue. Not possible to resurrect.
>>336190230
Been a while since I played the game, but if I remember correctly his spirit was tortured too, or something. Basically Jaheira thought that even being brought back would be suffering for him, probably mentally scarred forever. Khalid had a... hard life.
>>336193804
Resurrection can rebuild a body from a single tiny piece, though. And time limit is 10 years per caster level or something.
>beat SoA
>get to ToB
>encounters are suddenly 10 times harder
I guess it's time for some party optimization
>>336194103
Khalid's life is nothing but pain
>Be socially awkward
>Be nagged at be his wife most of the time
>Some 18 year old drags him all around the sword coast
>Wife clearly respects him more than you
>Be considered rather useless combat wise
>Get tortured until finally killed
>Wife gives up the idea of bringing him back
>Gets to watch from the after life as said 18 year old screws your wife
Khalid had a really really hard life.
>>336194502
How old is Jaheira anyways?
>>336194896
Thats... actually a good question. Although considering half-elf lifespan she is probably only in her late twenties early 30's in human lifespan.
So what really happens when someone dies in D&D? Since they can be resurrected, the spirit must survive. Does everyone who doesn't stay behind as a vengeful undead spirit end up in Limbo, and from there they can begin their journey through the outer planes?
Or do evil people actually get sent to the Nine Hells and good people to Celestia or something?
Does everyone become an outsider, traveler of the planes, or most random commoners just end up somewhere and spend the rest of their eternity there?
>>336195534
It depends on the god you follow and such. Some evil people actually get it pretty decent if they follow the right god.
>>336195718
I guess what I really wanted to ask, does everyone continue their lives somewhere on another plane?
Including the random level 1 peasant and the baby who died one month old?
>>336196125
your spirit goes to your gods plane and depending on how you acted you are rewarded/punished accordingly, for many gods the act of coming to their realm fucks with your mind a bit and it is a little like being reborn again
>>336196368
I would like to add that atheists are put in a giant torture wall. Part of the reason I make my characters always follow a god.
>>336195534
You can end up in a thousand different places, specially if you consider Planescape.
Most commonly you go to the domain of your god. Atheists become part of a wall of souls called Wall of the Faithless. Apparently it's very important in MotB, but I'm taking a while to play it because I want to get to it directly after the OC campaign, which will take me a long time to slog through.
>>336196579
Fuck that wall. It's an albatross around the neck of the Forgotten Realms setting.
>>336197827
Here's a tip for MotB: Unless you approve of the Wall, prepare for disappointment.
How do I beat Illasera with ascension?
>>336197940
It's not that I really want to be an atheist especially since I am not one in real life (yeah go on a rant against me I don't care) But so many gods in that setting are either way too pure to the point where nothing is accomplished or they are all out assholes. Kill me for wanting to be a nice guy/paladin/whatever the hell sort of hero but not following some god since I think that afterlife is boring.
>>336198034
Good to know, when I first heard about the MotB plot years ago, I felt like the Wall was a horrible and terrifyingthing. Now I want to go Tyr Vult on the euphoric.
>>336197940
None shall crush that fucking wall! It is the almighty thing that shall ever stop your non god following character from getting a happy ending.
>>336198094
pls respond
>>336198094
minmax. Get right party. Spam op spells. Summon creatures for help. Hopefully gave sarevok his old sword.
>>336200161i mean the first time you encounter her
>>336200467
Oh jeez we are in for a show. Okay pretty much what I said except it should be a bit easier. Besides that I have no clue.
>>336200580
True sight doesn't seem to be working and she just destroys my mages with her bow.
>>336200663
silence the bitch if possible, use some immunity to weapon spells. Remember that party members dying is okay as long as you can carry their stuff. Dispel can be your best friend as well. Make sure she aggros to you not the mages. Have the mages use any buffs possible pre battle and use some potions to protect your fighters from debuffs. Have your clerics use buffs as well. Summon any creatures of highest level possible to assist you.
>>336198168
I'm not an atheist either, and my hatred of the Wall isn't because I want I want to play some euphoric Faithless dickhead. I hate the Wall because it's a fucking atrocity, and yet the writers seem to expect us to agree with it.
>>336198373
I have a hard time believing that the god of justice would support the massive injustice that is the Wall.
>>336201262
I thought they treated the wall as a necessary evil. Not something that those people deserve. Wasn't it to hold back some evil powerful thing?
>>336198523
Even people who do follow a god can think it's bullshit. Kaelyn wants to destroy it, even though she's a cleric.
>>336201464
Wasn't there some super bad thing that would happen if it was destroyed? I'm kind of shaky on my lore.
>>336201435
The Wall hasn't always existed, so it's not necessary. I think the idea is that if people aren't scared into worship by the threat of the Wall, the gods will lose all their power and die because they have no worshippers. Rather than deciding that it's up to the gods to prevent this from happening by being good enough to earn worshippers, they decided it was easier to just shit on the mortals instead.
>>336201768
Considering the fact that in d&d gods can be killed by any bumfuck adventurer with enough experiance and magic, they have greater things to fear than a lack of worshipers. I'm sure that the wall could be destroyed in some campaigns simply because anything is possible if the current dungeon master is up to it.
>>336201768
Do you still go to the the wall if you believe in the gods, but don't follow any one in particular?
>>336201963
Not believing the gods exist in that universe either means you are an idiot or are in denial. Clerics are everywhere and they get abilities from their god. So pretty much everyone knows they are real. Although "god" might be stretching it because any half brain adventurer can become one if they reach high enough power and have the right recourses.
>>336201963
Yes. It's not lack of *belief* that sends you to the Wall, it's lack of *worship*.
>>336202156
yeah it's pretty much "I don't want to follow the gods since they are all pretty much assholes' Then you get to go to the wall.
>the Wall of the Faithless is an atrocity against us free thinkers
>>336202118
People can believe in the gods and still think they're not worthy of worship.
>>336202285
You don't worship a god, you go to the wall. No matter how good of a person you were. Unless some god wants to show mercy to you.
>>336202347
There are so many gods though, are there really none that are merciful enough to save non-worshippers?
>>336201963
Is it even possible to not believe in a god in d&d?
I mean, you literally have clerics and paladins calling divine favor from their god right next to you.
Atheism is more of a
>Gods exist but I don't agree with the way they go about things so I choose to worship no god
which is a fairly reasonable opinion, what happens to the faithless as a good example, but you'd have to be a unique kind of suicidal to choose to not worship any of them.
>>336202261
>>336198168
I hate the wall since pretty much every god in d&d is an asshole or useless no matter what my characters acknowledge they exist.
