About to play demon's souls for the first time. Tips? Suggested builds (besides mage builds)? Strats for bosses? Bullshit mechanics i should be aware of?
Get the crescent falchion
A lot of the weapons feel wonky as fuck in comparison to their future counter parts. I think it might be best to stick with swords generally speaking. Invest in a bow.
Just play the game, faggot
>>336054123
Cool, thanks
>>336054169
Thanks dick licker. Shitpost elsewhere fampai
There's an NPC you find locked up in 3-2, make sure to kill him as soon as you can
>>336054121
What's good about that?
>>336054601
It's a good weapon to get early on
>>336054589
Why?
>>336054601
The flamelurker boss is nearly impossible to kill without it
>>336054670
Wiki says you pick it up in 4-1. Is that early?
>>336054725
He'll kill every other npc he comes into contact with after he gets back to the main hub. Just kick him off the ledge reload and get his armor and keep it pushing.
>>336054725
Yurt, the silent chief will kill off NPCs in the nexus if left alive
Plus when you kill him you get his badass armor set
>>336054876
Name?
>>336054843
Close that fucking tab right now and go play it.
Blind is best
>>336054971
Yes sir
>>336054743
I went through the entire game with a +4/+5 starter falchion.
Hoarde your stones of the ephemeral eyes and play offline. The reason for this is simple - it lets you manually control world tendency. A first time run isn't going to hit pure white but you sure as fuck can hit pure black and the benefits (and hardship) it brings.
>>336054743
Nyet. Flamelurker is a hard wakeup call given the game eases you into 2-1. Suddenly hitting 2-2 afterward is going to get your shit slapped given how aggressive Flamelurker is.
When you are in the Nexus be careful putting down your controller if you are near an NPC.
You might accidentally hit one the the triggers and attack the NPC.
>All these DeS, BB, and DaS1 threads since DaS3 released
Warms my heart.
Is playing a video game really so hard that you have to ask for advice on how to play before you even touch it?
>you will never know the feeling of being this retarded
>>336055189
All the shitposting that follows isn't great though
>>336055361
I agree
>>336053957
How about you go play the game before you ask a gazillion questions?
Accidentally started as a wanderer without looking
>>336055361
That is because most of /v/ owned a 360 and thus never tasted the glory of Demon's Souls. A glory that is only equalled by DaSIII.
Squint LP watchers need not apply.
>>336055590
Doesn't matter much, mostly just determines your starting weapon.
>>336053957
>>336053957
>>336053957
do the item dupe trick. you'll thank me later.
also, i just need the friends ring and a pure bladestone, then i got the plat.
oh shiettt niggas.
It's the easiest game in the series. Very little bullshit.
Is luck worth investing in?
>>336056119
Nope.
>>336053957
Refund it while you can. Game has an impossible boss called Maneater so no one has ever finished the game.
>>336056119
Only if you are doing a blueblood sword build which you won't be for a first time run.
>>336056119
>>336056298
Blueblood build
My health is halved after i died. Is this a shittier Dark souls 2 now?
>>336056612
You can't really be shittier than shit, anon.
>>336056612
Git gud.
Beyond that find the cling ring and deal with it.
Seriously how do i escape this hell?
All kinds of builds are viable, unlike in DS3
>>336056828
You're meant to be at half health for a bit, the game is balanced around it. Just deal with it for now.
How long is the US sale on for?
>>336053957
BEST. SOULS. GAME. EVER.
>>336055990
>flamelurker
>armor spider
>penetrator
>false king allant
>blue dragon on 1-4
>easy
>>336055990
>Very little bullshit.
that fucking bridge
all the pitfalls in Latria
mindflayers
Man-Eaters
fucking everything in the Valley of Defilement
Satsuki hiding behind Skeletons
>>336057081
Armor spider is easy
>>336057148
>>336057081
Too easy once you use the white sticky stuff
>>336057081
>flamelurker
Aggressive but vulnerable to a shitload of things - especially magic and faith.
>armor spider
How do I rolled?
>penetrator
If you a bitch, summon Biorr.
>false king allant
Legit hard, which is fitting.
>blue dragon on 1-4
Bring a shitload of arrows.
I just got two shot by a red eyed knight guy
>>336057497
Those guys are a pain in the ass
I honestly avoided them for the most part
>>336057096
Don't forget the ambush in 1-3 (or is it 1-4? I forget) at pure black. Those two fellows with the crescent axes spawning in the passage with exactly zero room to move is bullshit as there is absolutely no escape and those dudes are the 2nd toughest non boss enemy in the game.
Anyone know how many soul levels can be in between two players for coop?
this is the only souls game i played. i picked it up because of all the difficulty hype. it was hard but not ridiculous. i used dagger and shield the whole game. most people seemed to love using huge weapons.
not really anything you need to know going in. have some patience playing it and take things slow or you'll get frustrated.
Blueblood sword a best.
>>336058105
How do i get it?
>>336058105
You misspelled Guillotine Axe
>>336054876
>>336054912
>>336054929
What the fuck is the point in this, do you gain maximum enjoyment from just going in and powergaming by doing everything the way it is to make the game the easiest for you? Instead of looking up epic weapon locations and being a handbook short of using a guide why don't you just go in and play it the way you should.
>>336058207
Kill Maiden Astraea in world 5-3.
>>336058207
Don't worry about it for a first time run - it requires a specialised build.
>>336058105
DBS or bust my scrub.
Fuck you, Satsuki!
>>336058358
I play games the way i want. You dont need to get salty over it. I enjoy it. You play games your way, i play them mine. I played through DS3 blind and i enjoyed it, but i enjoyed NG+ a bunch more because i knew whwere to go and what to do. It's just the way i play. I'm not ruining the game for myself, im just playing it my way
>>336058448
>Butcher's knife
STR pls go and stay go.
>>336058207
Soul of Maiden Astraea, last boss from Valley of Defilement.
>>3360581052kata best
>>336058632
>Butcher's knife
Maybe you should play Demon's Souls.
So i wanted to try out Demons Soul after being a Dark Soul fan for a while. What are the bittest differences between the franchises?
>>336058689
>black phantom
Never go 2kat (LMAO 2KAT)
>>336058949
LMAO
M
A
O
>>336058970
They're basically the same in their core gameplay, Demon's Souls is just a bit more primitive.
>>336058970
Not much. You can farm 99 healing/mana items and you can't jump, that's pretty much it.
Don't read a guide.
The levels are quite linear and the NPC storylines aren't ludicrously complicated so there is no need to refer to a walkthrough as it will just ruin your experience.
But one tip, if you explore world 4-1 (Shrine of Storms) there is a decent sword that can help a lot for a beginner.
>>336056612
It's not a straight downside. You do more damage in soul form and are harder to detect.
>>336058970
Carry weight instead of equipment load.
>>336058959
Drunk as fuck yo. Still, the weapon you get from the Adjudicator ain't that great even with the HP regen it provides (and yes, i'm aware of its fantastic scaling). The DBS is a better STR weapon all told even if ypu are likely to get it later.
Though I am a fan of Hiltless builds simply for raw dps.
Side note: I actually own the black phantom version of the euro release - mini-guidebook and all.
>>336058970
>the burden system is unfair and one of the worst things about the game
>no jump attack
>only two roll types
>no kick move
>>336058632
Cleaver has S/S/-/A scaling you stupid fucking stat elitist retard.
>>336056612
>Whining about Demon's Souls
fuck off
>>336059751
Still loses to DBS for raw AR.
>>336059721
I wonder how many people managed to get the whole brushwood set on their first playthrough.
>>336059846
Dawg, have you never had parents or something? Way too salty at a simple joking statement
>>336059868
Cleaver also has a ridiculously good moveset.
>That nigh instant rolling attack with a mile wide shockwave
>>336058632
>>336059751
Meat Cleaver has SSA scaling but the Great Axe is still the single hardest hitting weapon in the game.
>>336059950
Go back to playing your video game and whining about it like DSP
>>336053957
Play online so I can invade your ass. Also so I can prep to kill Woolie.
Anyone want to PvP?
The servers seem to be pretty deserted from my experience
>>336055990
>Very little bullshit.
I would agree with that, though I wouldn't say it's the easiest. I would just say it has the fewest gimmicks. There are no moments like the Anor Londo archers or bullshit platforming, most levels can be run through without fighting anyone, and the bosses are simple patterns and challenges of skill (save for Storm King and Dragon God, which are just tests of not dying).
>>336058618
It's just a shame is all to spoil the game before playing it. Aside from Character and World Tendency, nothing is too cryptic in the game, unlike the NPC questlines in DaS3. And in my opinion, DeS is probably the best for replayability, since you can choose which areas to complete first instead of following through the natural progression like in DaS.
>>336060080
Keep being salty while i have fun witha new game, m8. sorry you've never had a single observation about anything. Fanboys, man.
>>336059585
Are you aware of the balls to the wall magic damage and broken as fuck roll attack also?
Because the Meat Cleaver is the second best weapon in the game behind the Great Axe.
>>336059751
>finally make cleaver in ng+ because first playthrough was blind
>realise its not as good as the fucking halberd I started the game with even with that scaling
Why
>>336060247
I get that. I just have more fun playing it this way. The only thing i like is to beat a boss without these kind of tips.
>>336060371
>magic shitters
No, faith for bust nigga. Exactly nothing resists faith.
>>336060413
Meat Cleaver, and BBS are end game quality weapons. It's unlikely you'll see their full potential.
They are literally weapons designed for NG+7
>>336060291
>while i have fun
>while I whine and post on 4chan like DSP's average commentary
okay
Is MLGS in this game?
>>336054297
>actual advice is shitposting
Can you just fuck off? Why do you need a bunch of anonymous strangers to hold your hand?
Who just starts a thread and asks for the entire game to be spoiled and spoon fed to them?
>>336060528
That's it, it's faith. I haven't played Demon's Souls in about four years, I'm a little rusty.
>>336060647
yes
>>336057096
>that fucking bridge
don't even know what you're referring too
>all the pitfalls in Latria
Not really a problem, don't run around like an idiot
>mindflayers
Only that black phantom one can really cause any problems
>Man-Eaters
Hardest boss in the game, still a joke
>fucking everything in the Valley of Defilement
Easy zone
>Satsuki hiding behind Skeletons
Never did his quest line
Honestly, the only real bullshit that sticks out for me is the dragon on 1-4.
>>336060647
Of course
>>336060674
Normies who only want walking simulators. Naturally this covers 95% of /v/.
>>336060647
Ofcourse, but its called the "large sword of moonlight" and scales of faith sadly (which you should never increase past 16 because the only use of miracles is second chance)
>>336060669
>actual advice
Wow the population of people who literally cannot stop being MLG My-way-is-the-best-way fags is astonishingly high
>>336056612
Game's so easy you can just pop a stone of ephemeral eyes every time you die and still have like 15 left at the end of the game.
How the fuck does World Tendency even work?
I've used about 30 stone of ephemeral eyes and hurled myself of ledges and suicided into mobs, all offline, and the demon thing that drops the colorless soul still hasn't spawned.
>>336053957
Though it's clearly worse than DaS, simply because DaS added shitton of good things to its concept, it somehow can't stop being my favorite Souls game and one of the favorite games overall. I don't know, perhaps because it was my first Souls game, but there's still something comfy and magical about its world, melancholic atmosphere, characters and so on. I actually replay it each year, for the first time I wish remaster for PS4 (shrine could be added which is nice, but I think it's a nice touch it was left out since you image all the time what could be in this world).
>>336060916
You have to go back to the nexus before world tendency updates you know
>>336060836
>Play the game instead of begging for help for hours on 4chan
>MLG My-way-is-the-best-way fag
You are so fucking delusional it's ridiculous and somewhat mind boggling
>>336060973
Astraea's theme is best theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9piElENpvmM
>>336060916
>Keep being salty while i have fun witha new game, m8
>literally cannot stop posting on 4chan instead of playing the game
teenagers are so stupid
>>336060916
Play offline. Online affects world tendency based upon playerbase which naturally shifts it towards black.
>>336061173
Only if you're stupid enough to keep disconnecting and reconnecting.
>>336061085
>delusional
You literally just described the argument of playing your way versus mine and said i was delusional. What investment do you haven in this way of playing that you have to be a raging shitter just because im not doing it your way.
>Begging
Not begging, asking. If you don't know the difference you're the delusional one.
>>336060973
Damn atmosphere was depressing as fuck for some reason. More depressing than whole dying and hollowing DaS. I just don't know, it already feels so... dead and hollow. Fucked beyond repair without any hope, at least in DaS we can still hope that flame will light again and even age of dark ends...
>that fucking theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqhqbsdpAXo
Tears each time I finish game...
>>336061169
>Thinks its me
Fucking what?
>>336061313
Something "MLG" would be like min/maxing, looking up guides, figuring out what builds are most effective, etc. You're purposefully spoiling your first playthrough of a game and then you're acting like a whiny bitch about it when people tell you to just play the game like a normal person.
best boss in DeS right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-rNVnrFQDg
>>336061527
>Like a normal person
>People calling me a normie for looking up guides.
Excuse me?
Why do you even come into these threads just to be like this? Isn't it annoying to constantly have to be a piece of shit to random people trying to play games the way they like?
Don't use normal weapons, their upgrade path suck. only special weapons(ex makoto, Bramd, boss weapons)
>>336061090
>>336061626
Very beautiful piece of music. Perfectly capture tone of the "fight".
>Astrea didndunuffin, we must kill her because it's the only way to bring Old One to slumber
>Feeling like literal demon for doing it, not better than whole flith we went through to meet what we thought is dangerous and violent demon
DeS is full of this little moments, they are just beautiful and really memorable.
>>336060470
Bosses
1-1: Throw firebombs
1-2: Hit ankles to knock down, then hit head
1-3: Rescue Biorr from cell in 1-2 (key is somewhere in 1-3) and he'll help you
1-4: If he grabs you, he steals a soul level
2-1: Run as fast as you can down the hall to get to the boss and avoid any attacks on the way
2-2: Try to get him stuck on some of the rubble or something
2-3: Avoid his punches and break the rubble in your path to get to the two huge arrow guns. Once both hands are pinned down, attack his head.
3-1: Use the pillars to block incoming spells. The one that shoots the bigger one is the true form
3-2: A second Maneater will come in after a certain amount of time. Try to stay in the central part with the fire so you don't fall off. Also, you can cut off their tails
3-3: Just a regular invasion/generic NPC
4-1: Drop down to his level and hit his wound until he brings his head down, then attack it
4-2: The guy is blind, so try to move slowly so he doesn't hear you
4-3: Get the sword further into boss area and use it
5-1: Easy fight, no tips, just don't suck
5-2: Another easy fight
5-3: Take right path until you reach the end. You should see a women below. Use a bow and shoot her
I'd like to mention theres literally a message system in which players can help each other through tips IN GAME
>>336058970
Best atmosphere
>>336061672
>Excuse me?
You have poor reading comprehension, it's okay. I'm telling you to play the game like a normal person. As in, just fucking play the game. Don't stop every 5 minutes the second you see something slightly different, when you enter a different room, when you pick up an item, when you get to a new level, when you find a boss, etc, to look up a guide, or to ask random people online for tips.
I'm telling you to play the game like you're not an ADHD addled child. Just play the fucking game.
>>336057081
everything on this list but false king allant is easy, flamelurker is ok but can be easily cheeses in multiple ways
>>336061830
Which are vague and can only help you in immediate, short term circumstances, and often don't actually provide any incite. If this is your justification for looking up guides and asking specific questions and requesting specific answers from people who don't have to respond with a fucking word template you are most likely autistic or just a fucking retard in general.
Damn, feeling quite nostalgic about DeS atmosphere. Can somebody tell me anything about previous From games, like King Field 4, Shadow Tower Abyss and PS1 ones. Are they worth playing and have similar depressing atmosphere?
>>336054121
Mein neger
>>336054169
This is the only answer.
>fighting Old King Allant for the first time
>>336062143
>>336054169
W-W-WAAAAAAH
STOP BEING SO ELITIST!!!!
JUST HOLD MY HAND AND TELL ME HOW TO WIN!!
>>336061839
However, thats not what im doing. At this point all im doing is having a debate with a bunch of people probably 5 years older than me about why they literally cant get a simple idea through their brains. I dont give the slightest shit about how 'normal' people play the game. The questions youve seen so far are all i know. MLGS is in the game. Cool, maybe ill get that sometime. NPC that will murder everyone? Man, thats shitty, i should kill him.
All this shit about me going into every room according to a guide is assumption on your part. Frankly, that a large assumption. I've played 2 of the souls games blind and the other 2 knowing the basics on what weapons i wanted. I'm sure you can see you're just being a massive, raging asshole.
>>336062203
The boss himself isn't even that hard
The path there however was one of the most frustrating parts of the whole game
>>336062203
literally killed him on my first try with a unupgraded makoto
>>336062359
You're being a baby asking for spoilers and essentially having the game ruined for you. Then you justify it by being a pissy bitch because people told you to just play the game. You're a giant baby desperate to have the game played for you, get over it.
>I've played 2 of the souls games blind
There's no reason at all for me to believe you and every reason to think you're lying to try and save face. Just stop posting.
>>336061756
Been using the Halberd+10 with Light Weapon and it destroys everything, how is it bad?
>>336061289
Game sets tendency upon connection which is always more black than white due to people dying loads.
Only way to control it manually is play offline and lots of nexus suicides.
>>336053957
expect the most broken game in the series and the shittiest upgrade system ever created.still my favorite souls game.
>>336061793
>that dragon god "advice"
Just tell him its metal gear souls
This thread= 100 shit bags and ~5 people not being shit bags.
>>336062685
Since they abandoned events it automatically goes neutral instead.
>>336062685
Dunno about you but server median seems to be much more leaning towards white than black, boletarian palace was pure white for example.
Although this was on european server
>>336062808
Enjoy playing the game the easiest way. Faggot.
>>336062808
>bawwww why isn't everyone holding my hand
>>336061316
Dark Souls games take place at the end of an age in a dying world.
Demon's Souls takes place in a dead world. There's nothing and nobody left save a few NPCs hiding in dark corners and people who've come from the outside.
DeS has the BEST intro in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnEzkbdTa0I
>>336061839
This faggot right here has a point.
>Favorite stage
>Favorite enemy
>Favorite weapon
>>336063516
>Tower of Latria
>Skeletors
>Claymore
Grab the purple flame shield from the dragons roost in 1-1, it's the best shield in the game until you get the dark silver shield, and will trivialize both armor spider and flamelurker, you also get havels ring and the flame stoneplate ring at the same spot if memory serves
Every time I play amd I'm not going for a specific build I just go with the cleaver, it's just unbelievably fucking good, which has already been said earlier
That aside, go and play the game fucker, have funit remains my favorite installment in the franchise regardless of its flaws and even though I played DaS first
>>336063516
>Stage: Latria for dem spooks
>Enemy: black phantom huge troll in 5 world for anus rape, 2kat apocalypse for nice and challenging fights
>Weapon: blueblood sword and this blade of sister of Astrae's bf which can fight through shields, sadly nobody but me used it
>>336063516
Latria
Fat Official
Scimitar
>>336063725
fucking 4-1
those goddamn triple jaw giant skeletons killed me so many times
also pic related
>>336063516
>Shrine of Storms Storm King Arena with Stormruler
>Old Hero
>Flamberge
>>336063516
>all boletaria
>fat officer
>makoto
>>336063859
kek fuck that ghost, he instakilled everyone
>>336063516
>Tower of Latria, of course
>Giant depraved ones. Love to hate
>Dragon Bone Smasher, because large strength weapons in DeS were actually satisfying to use.
>>336063516
Latria
Fat Official
Kilij
>>336063516
>shrine of storms
>gargoyles
>demonbrandt
>>336063516
>Favorite stage
3-1, Tower of Latria
>Favorite enemy
Penetrator
>Favorite weapon
MLGS
>>336060113
I'll place my red sign at 4-1
>4-2
>Executioner Miralda
>Dragon Knight Sword
>>336063516
>Latria
>Those giant worms that come out of the ground in Stonefang
>Meat Cleaver/Large Sword of Searching
>>336064114
kek
des memes are the best
>>336064132
It's been a while since I've played, do I have to be in soul or human form?
>>336063516
1-1
Mindflayers since it feels so good to take them out but fuck the bp versions, holy shit nothing that size should have that much health, with executioner miralda pulling in a close second
The fucking SSA cleaver, fits my playstyle perfectly and has defined how I play the souls games ever since
S
S
A
>>336063516
4-3
Penetrator
Claymore
>>336063516
>Boletarian Palace
>Red Eye Knight
>Blind
Pure luck build using the blue blood blade.
>>336057497
is this you?
>>336063516
>Boletaria Castle
yeah, seems boring, but i love the traditional medieval castle setting i kind of want a whole game set in a giant one where every area in the castle has different bosses and stuff
>Mindflayer
the original winter lanterns/jailers
>Meat Cleaver
gotta love fuckhuge weapons
>>336064282
They're from a better time.
>>336064489
If only scrubs knew the horror the black red-eyed knight is protecting.
>>336064282
indeed
mostly because of how accurate they are, like space pirate tubes
>>336055590
Wanderer is the best class though.
Been running wanderer or its equivalent in every souls game.
just play blind m9
Since this is a Souls thread:
Starting Dork Souls 1 for the first time. Which class is good for a beginner and which Item should I take? Does that witch's ring do anything?
I was considering thief for master key but I'm worried he might be squishy as fuck.
>>336064635
I only killed him legitimately once. Just kited him with poison could every time after
>>336064856
You don't want Master Key for your first run, since it is mostly just for sequence breaking. Knight or Pyro is a good start.
>>336064919
Well yeah its a boring fight
>>336054912
Why you pinning all this bad shit on mah nigga Yurt
he dindu nuffin.
The claymore is the best weapon if only for the 2hand rolling attack. It makes me jizz every time.
Anybody want to talk lore? DeS might not be as meaty as DaS, but there's some stuff in there.
I've been thinking about the Shrine of Storms and the Shadow Men again. DaS3 got me on it. I've been working on the theory that something about the island is magical. I've also been wondering how long the greater demons have been on the island; if the Shadow Men worshiped and revered them, then they might have been demons left over from the first purge. But it's also possible that the greater demons are like Astrae; they didn't start out as demons, they just got turned into them by the Old One. Though I'm pretty sure they've always been dicks, except for the Old Warrior.
Just a reminder that Ostrava is the best NPC in the entire series.
>>336064856
Pyromancer for helpful magic, Warrior for best starting weapon and I'll fight you if you disagree, Knight for tanks.
Prettiest sword!
Bestiest sword!
>>336064856
Depending on whether you want to use katanas or scimitars Wanderer is good since high starting DEX, and Knight is good since poise was introduced and helps you tank some hits. Though rolling and i-frames are king.
>>336059721
>no kick
what? shove is not the same?
also is way cool because they are diferent per weapon type instead of a generic kick
>>336065121
The bosses in the Shrine of Storms are demons that took the shape of myths of the Shadow Men.
>>336064856
As it was passed to me.
>>336065187
it would've been a lot better if there wasn't a BP mindflayer there who killed 9/10 people
>>336064785
KEK
>>336065121
both the adjudicator and the old hero have the same scars around their mouths
>>336064282
i think DeS souls generals were the last time i genuinely enjoyed coming to /v/
>>336065176
Looks like a faggy keyblade.
>>336065283
[sticky white stuff]
>>336065124
That was a bold jump!
>>336061984
I would like to know this too.
>>336065124
you spelled Biorr wrong
>>336065278
best version
>>336065124
he is the npc i most miss in the entire series.
>>336065280
There's two bp mindflayerson the run up to old monk, ace
>>336064114
Can someone explain 2kat to me? I think they stunlocked in Pvp or something?
>>336065538
it's been like six years, cool your jets
was I the only one who tried this?
>>336063516
4-1
mindflayer
blueblood sword
>>336065556
2kat is from dorf fortress. if you ever have two cats together they'll fuck like... cats, and overrun your fort
in des though there was a spoopy skeleton dual wielding katanas that could (i think it was) one shot you
>>336065621
My jets are icy, boss
Just saying it's actually shittir than you remember, is all
>>336065252
Hadn't thought of that. Assumed it was like the mines and the Colorless Fog used whatever was around.
>>336065324
Now that's interesting; I never got a good look at the Old Warrior. There's a theory that the Adjudicator actually hates the crow controlling it, and has tried to kill itself in the past. And if the Old Warrior was set as punishment, then the same might be true for the Adjudicator.
>>336054123
DeS Greataxe is still the best incarnation of the Greataxe.
>>336064286
Human form
False King Allant isn't hard at all. His only dangerous attack is the charge-across-the-room slash and you just have to roll under it.
Gargoyles are the hardest boss.
CAW CAW
GIVE ME SPARKLY-TWINKLY
>>336065902
The Old Hero is literally just the a result of them burying their dead into the depths and offering them to the Storm King.
>>336065783
fair enough
1-3 was still the hardest level for me, that run to penetrator was fucking brutal
>>336065998
best crow voice in the series, best items too
>>336065989
>isn't hard at all
>>336066026
Getting through the army of black knights was the single worst part about it, I could handle them scattered throughout the level mixed in with mobs, but it was too fucking hard to pick them off one by one
Penetrator was a disappointment after all that though, he's one of the easiest bosses in the game even if you haven't completed biorr's questline. Still like him tho
>>336054121
>Telling someone to get the Drake Sword of Demon's Souls
Disgusting
>>336066164
His attacks are fast but he telegraphs them very slowly and very obviously. Soul suck, in particular, is very easy to dodge.
>>336065902
I always got the impression that peeling the lips away was a part of their worship of the dead, since it made their faces more skull-like
>>336065963
Give me a couple minutes, then I'll be in 4-1
>>336064953
>You don't want Master Key for your first run
You should start with it because it rewards exploration and it doesn't lock you through one path.
>>336065902
the crow(or raven whatever) is the judge, and the adjudicator the executioner. the crow is present in viking pagan religion
>The ravens tell Odin everything they see and hear. Odin sends Huginn and Muninn out at dawn, and the birds fly all over the world before returning at dinner-time. As a result, Odin is kept informed of many events. High adds that it is from this association that Odin is referred to as "raven-god". The above-mentioned stanza from Grímnismál is then quoted.[6]
The old hero was approved by the raven, so his soul was not eaten, in fact, all bosses of this archstones are gods or related to gods of the pagan people that lived there. Also, the old hero is full of scars and blindfolded, there was a sacrifice ritual in native america where a blindfolded men would fight various enemies at once, until he dies, i'm almost sure this is what happened with the old hero.
>>336066329
>crescent falchion
>not the blessed mace in 5-1
>>336066365
He likes to use soul suck right after he lands his wombo combo when people panic heal.
>>336066329
crescent falchion was even worse than drake sword though. it's got magic and bleed, and good scaling. you could use it the entire game without gimping yourself like the drake sword.
>>336065621
>tfw none of the other souls games have neato subtext that accompanies the generic revival, boss kill etc text
God I missed that.
>>336066285
Now in hindsight, I realize that one reason I enjoyed DeS so much was just how calculating shortcuts were, and sometimes uncompromising as fuck.
1-1 and 5-2, some of the longest levels, had shortcuts straight to the boss.
But 1-4, 4-2, 5-1 just straight up say "no fuck you, go through the whole level, and then clench your ass at the boss." I don't think any other souls games has made you go so long without a shortcut as DeS. Really emphasizes prep time and hoping you have the willpower for a LONG outing.
On the same tangent, I think cathedral of the deep from DaS3 is the best level I've seen in a while, its lengthy, yet the shortcuts are so clever. It was the first level to remind me of DeS.
>>336066483
I hadn't thought about the connection to Norse myth. Seems obvious, especially with the God Tree/Old One. The bit about the Old Hero is interesting too. He's also chained to the wall before the fight, though; what's that about?
>>336066285
Yeah, definitely. Even as one of the first giant guy with sword bosses he was still pretty easy. But fighting that army of red eye knights mixed in with archers and spearmen was just too much.
>>336066365
I mean looking back, yeah, he isn't nearly as hard as anything that came after. But when DeS was all there was? When you didn't have ten years of experience of these kinds of games? Allant was a motherfucker.
>>336061984
Demon's Souls and King's Field share the same melancholic atmosphere. I can't speak for Shadow Tower since I'm still playing through it, but all four King's Field games have the same weird blend of moody and dreamlike that made Demon's Souls so enjoyable. As far as old school dungeon crawlers go they're pretty easy to jump right into due to being more action-oriented; I had fun playing them for the first time this year.
>>336053957
Tempted to play through all of the DaS games after I'm done with DaS3.
I completed DaS but got bored half way through 2 because the areas just felt so lazy.
Is it worth including DeS as it's the only one I'd have to set my PS3 up for? I was always turned off because of the grass system
Is it also worth picking up DLC for DaS1+2?
>>336067050
>ten years
WHAT
Has it really been that long
>>336067139
literally every game is worth playing
>>336066879
5-1 was a mistake imo
Also I got strong des vibes the moment I hit high wall in 3, seeing everything sprawled out around you, the bridge and the aesthetics in general gave me strong boletarian palace feels
>>336066164
Imagine the crying that would happen in newer souls games if an endgame boss could permanently de-level you.
>>336067152
eh, 09. close enough
>>336067152
No
Seven years ago
>you will never play the broken archstone level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9c01YsEFM
>>336067152
Demon's came out in 2009, so he's off by 3.
>>336067217
>tfw I had enough hp to survive it so I would heal back up but he would get me again
I lost probably 4-5 levels on him before I finally killed him
>>336067045
There are no chains, but he is in a weird position, maybe it was a way to worship him, since theres a table in the front of him
Also, the graves all around him could be other heroes, or part of the sacrifice to the god of the storms. I don't know if the gods really existed, or If the old one created them based on what people believed when he awoke. The dragon god, is also obviously, a god, and was also worshipped by people.
>>336067109
>dreamlike
This is something the later souls games sorely lacked. Demon's Souls felt very otherworldly andephemeral.
>>336067139
Everybody said that the dlc of 2 was worth it, and much better than the rest of the game
Just here to let you know that was not my experience
>>336067217
What's nice is if you were good enough you could actually beat him and get the souls back from your de-leveling.
>>336067415
>>336067352
>>336067330
Don't scare me like that.
>>336067458
Agreed. It was definitely a step up from the main game, but it still wasn't very good.
>Mfw somebody says that the Ivory King dlc has good level design
>>336057927
Within 12
>>336067396
>tfw they'll never ever release a remaster with the broken archstone levels added
>>336067702
i enjoyed the castle but those enemies were just pure rage inducing bullshit
>>336067702
>>336067458
Das2 dlc was better than the main game in that the main game was a dry turd, and the dlc was a dried turd reskinned to appear as a good looking turd, sprayed down with febreeze
>>336067921
Old Iron King DLC has some of the shittiest enemy placements that require you to chip away.
