Are you ready for the biggest flop of 2016?
>>336020532
I'm sure there will be worse.
>>336020532
I've pre-ordered it.
>>336020821
What could possibly be worse then DooM 4?
>>336020532
Man, I thought Chris-chan made such a big deal out of Sonic's arms and couldn't see why it mattered.
Now they've added armour to Doomguy's arms, I can't tell the difference between him and Halo. It's really bothering me.
Am I autistic?
the sp seems like it could be ok. after that live stream it seems like theres actually some semblance of exploration. though i still say theres far too few enemies on screen at any time
>>336021238
I'll be playing it on nightmare mode. That's the only way to judge if its fun.
>>336020920
good goy
>>336020532
I'm feeling really depressed, hope this game makes me feel better.
>>336021171
yes
>>336021417
>Anon on suicide watch
>More at 11
brink 2?
brink 2.
>>336021171
I think there is a big difference between doom guy not showing off his guns then sonic's arms not being blue
>>336021703
no its just autism
>>336021808
No, its a big visual difference that disturbs me and many others who do not have autism.
>>336021238
It looks sooooo shit, watch the new single player footage, no joke trash is too good of a description for what this game is.
>>336020920
Carefull not to fall for it
>>336021909
It's exactly on the level of autism as blue arn.theres alot wrong with this turd but power armor isn't it
>>336021238
I agree, nothing mindblowing and I wont get it til it drops in price but it looks faster and generally better than most shooters releasing nowadays.
>>336022032
>>336022074
No its not
>waiting this long for people to realise Doom 3 was fucking great
>>336021284
a man among children
>>336022353
It wasn't though. Having to deal with 2-3 enemies max with the vast majority of fights being 1 on 1 was boring as shit. The overall pace of the game was boring. Quake 4 was exactly the same.
I could forgive the animations but i just cant stand the RPG elements in this game.
>>336022584
>2-3 enemies max with the vast majority of fights being 1 on 1 was boring as shit.
Yeah but the enemies were pretty hard to fight, if you fucked up it left you with low health or low ammunition which was just as bad.
>>336020962
Final Fantasy XV, a 10 year flop
>>336020532
>implying i care
this is a cowaddoody travesty with the wrong name tag
>>336022353
Doom 3 had few problems.
>Imps behind doors ready to jump on you
>monsters spawn around and behind you
>armor is useless and does not help much
>wepons have weird damage, especially shotgun which sometimes kills in one shot, sometimes it doesn't
>every time someone hits you your crosshair jumps so you can't even aim -- hands down the worst thing about Doom 3
>>336020962
Street Fighter V, while having very good mechanics, is a big financial flop already. I bet D44M breaks even at least.
>Weapons sound and feel like some Fallout laser gun
>There is no "weight" in gameplay, everything is slow
>FPS designed for gamepads and "cinematic" experiences
>Poor color palet
>Enemies do not even try to attack the player
>Finishing moves everywhere
>Music is ok
I don't understand how would someone pay 60 bucks for this shit. It's worth 10$ and i'm being generous.
>>336023134
Someone who is not stuck in 90s and wants to play some video games instead of shitposting on /v/?
>>336023010
>I bet D44M breaks even at least.
Even normies aren't interested judging by the other forums I visit,
>>336023134
>Poor color pallet
This
Too many games these days look like complete and utter shit
>>336023134
>Finishing moves everywhere
this is the greatest cancer and I can't believe they put it in there. Shows how fucked the gaming scene is
>>336023361
>Catalog
What? I'd much prefer shitposting on /v/ than paying 60$ for this shit.
>>336023378
Fair enough, I guess we'll see. I still doubt it fails as hard as SFV since Capcom apparently hoped for like 2mil sales
>>336021238
>I-It looks ok
Its slow as fuck and is going to carry over the gameplay from multiplayer, not to mention glory kills and challenges that shouldn't be in the fucking game in the first place.
Yeah, once the Doom fanbase gets their hands on it they're going to tear Bethesda a new one
>>336023361
>if you hate a game you don't play video games
Typical shill tactics
>>336023557
Come on son, you should know that they're just trying to appeal to casual gamers by showing off all those sick cinematic finishers. It's all flash, no bang.
That being said I do think I would enjoy the singleplayer for the most part. Multiplayer just had me pissed off more often that not, but I do kind of like the gunplay. I'd pay 30 burger bucks at most.
>>336023712
With Zenimax trying to take down leaks, the negative score for the beta and those parodies of the cover, i can't wait to see a shitfest happing after the game's release.
>>336023557
casuals unfortunately eat that sort of shit up, the illusion of doing something badass yourself with just one button.
Zenimax/Bethesda are seriously the worst of the big publishers imo so I don't doubt at least some of this shit or the RPG elements were mandated to id
>>336023712
>Its slow as fuck
how it's supposed to be, i don't get it?
You already run like a madman and don't have to take breaks from it to recover stamina and there is no sprint button.
Making it faster will only make it look stupid and unrealistic.
>>336020532
It looks fun.
>>336024045
Doom was never meant to be realistic faggot.
Muh realism fps came with the fucking xbox and the genre has been complete garbage ever since.
>>336023557
So just turn them off.
>>336024276
You can't nigger.
Only the flash indicators
>>336022990
These aren't problems, these are characteristics of difficulty. Don't be a silly.
>>336024194
>Doom was never meant to be realistic faggot.
Still motorbike running speed combined with modern graphics is retarded no matter how you look at it.
>>336024531
Don't use them then. Holy shit.
>>336024945
>Wooow don't use a major feature of the game!!
You're like one of those fags who says to play Skyrim without using the map, even though the game is specifically designed around it.
>>336025101
>major feature
Yeh, sure. Just better to cry about it, eh?
>>336025205
No, better to not play the game at all.
>>336022353
It really wasn't.
>>336024045
>how its supposed to be
Who fucking CARES about the game looking stupid and unrealistic? ITS FUCKING DOOM, THE GAME WHERE YOU SHOT DEMONS IN SPACE.
I would expect it to be at least a little bit faster than Halo or CoD, but no, its slow as hell.
>>336024945
>just don't use them
Didn't something happen that was similar to this with Th4if, which ended up breaking the game?
It shouldn't be in the game, replacing the melee in the first place
What the fuck is with all these shills on /v/ lately?
Its annoying as hell.
>>336024760
>characteristics of difficulty
yeah right difficulty
>get swarmed by trites and imps
>crosshair jumps around and you can't hit anyone because of it
> die with -42 hp and 112 armor
or
>open door
>imp jumps at you and takes 1/3 of your health and there is no fucking way you can avoid his attack
>crosshair jumps you miss a shot
>he hits you again you somehow dodge and point blank shotgun shot does not kill him
>take some more damage and kill him finally
>>336024945
>WOOOW JUST DONT USE MICROTRANSACTIONS STOP COMPLAINING
this is what you sound like
>>336025528
>shills
Yep, major title being released in a couple of weeks and people are talking about. Must be shills!
You're so clever.
>>336025452
>Who fucking CARES about the game looking stupid and unrealistic?
Like, people with common sense?
Making a game for neckbeards is a bad idea overall and most people think it's a glitch when you press "forward" and your character hits a wall and overall movement feels like you're sliding on ice.
>>336025994
Won't seem so major probably a month after release
>>336025528
>faggot is so triggered that others aren't sobbing in a corner like him because doomguys arms are covered that he turns them into kikes in his mind
>>336025994
But nobody fucking liked it, especially during the beta. Now suddenly, /v/ is praising it for being fun.
Fuck off, shill.
>>336026146
>Making a game for neckbeards
AKA not boring normie shit
Kill yourself
>>336026304
>nobody fucking liked it
Maybe on PC, but honestly who cares about PC these days?
>>336026146
>people with common sense would look at a game about a buff marine in space with demons and skeletons and think "this isn't realistic enough"
Anon, I think you have autism
>>336020532
That's not FFXV
>>336026304
But steam reviews don't matter if they don't share the same opinions as me
>>336020532
Mafia III? No.
>>336026379
Oh okay, hes a Sonygger.
Nevermind, you opinion doesn't matter
>>336026304
devil's advocate: a lot of people were saying they were going to wait to see what the single player looked like without regards to the multiplayer
I don't think the single player looks that good but just because somebody does, doesn't make them a shill
>>336020532
I believe after the game hits the bargain bin in 2 weeks, someone will mod the enemy spawns and readjust damage etc - making the game playable. But that will take probably few months after the release so I'm not holding my breath.
>>336026331
>not boring normie shit
ID Software/Bethesda makes AAA titles, you should have expected them to makes games for wider audience.
You can go ahead and fund Romero on kickstarted though, just be ready for another unpolished buggy daikatana-tier mess.
>>336023712
>It's slow as fuck
Base movement speed is as fast as the unreal tournament alpha
>>336026536
Again, nobody here liked the singleplayer until now. Also, most of these posts follow the same "its 2016, quit being a manbaby" format without any actual compliments to the game. Its fucking obvious.
>>336026746
>is as fast as the unreal tournament alpha
nigger wat
>>336026751
Again, no one saw the single player content really until this week. 'fucking shills'
Holy shit, you're a fucking retard lmao.
>>336026751
> nobody here liked the singleplayer until now.
because they didn't show it until recently.
No one knew what singleplayer looked like until this week. E3 demo was old and a lot has changed since then.
>>336026840
Nice greentexting anon
>>336026304
>I want every thread to be a hate circlejerk
>if you don't adopt the opinion of the hivemind, then obviously you're a shill
Fuck your kind
Warcraft movie is going to be the biggest flop of 2016.
>>336022706
I see you played th xbox version
>>336026840
>>336026906
How is it any different then the E3 footage?
It looks just a slow, their are still glory kills and quests, you get heals based on kills, everything shitty about it is still their.
>>336020532
Nah m8
That was my dick after I fucked ur mum last night.
>>336026980
>waaah muh vee hivemind
Again, all these posts are similar and came out of nowhere, and around the time the game is to be released.
>>336020532
I wonder why people are triggered so much by this game. I mean, how is it different from the first game?
The first Doom trilogy got famous because "muh edge" and "muh gore", it was cool back then, this game seems to want to recreate that atmosphere that it had back then
It looks amazing to me and i have to actually play it to judge the gameplay because videos don't do it for me, but saying a game will be shit when it's not even out yet is being a retard
>>336026304
>nobody liked it
And people still don't. /v/ and most everyone else fucking despise it. There are a handful of people that don't and they MUST be shills because... ???
There are people out that liked shit like Jericho and Time Shift. There are people out there that liked Hellgate: London and Tabula Rasa. What the fuck is so special about this game? Calling people out for shit taste is one thing, but you are such a collosal fucking faggot for roleplaying as some noble shillhunter.
>>336027193
>came out of nowhere
Yeh, except they have released a ton of SP footage this week. But sure, must be shills!
>>336026980
>defending ZeniMax garbage
>thinks he's going against the hivemind
>>336027270
>Triggered
You mean that they hate the game or are having flash backs and heart attacks by looking at it?
>>336027031
Nah I played it over a summer in 2006 I think, in a totally dark room on a 19" CRT with headphones, it was fucking scary at times.
Honestly I think most people just played the game wrong, expecting a GOTTA GO FAST shooter when it really closer to survival horror.
>>336027326
>tons of medicore gameplay footage with nothing changed
>BUT ITS SO GOOD VEE WHY DO YOU HATE IT ARE YOU JUST MAN BABY
Yeah its not shills tho
>>336027270
Show me where they were ever super serious about "muh edge" or "muh gore" in the originals
>>336027081
>It looks just a slow
No one will ever make a game with unrealistically fast movement speed, you will have to deal with it and live with it.
Games are not arcade lul so randum xD anymore like in 80s or 90s and will have somewhat realistic physics no matter if you like it or not. You can go back to playing your pixelated shit though no one stops you from doing it.
>>336027270
>developers release footage of gameplay
>but no I need to play it to decide if the gameplay right in front of me is good
Do you have brain damage?
>>336026838
Half of the fucking promo footage they show is using the default FOV, which is something like 80, whereas UT is always played at 100-120. Playing both games at equivalent FOV's shows the base movement speed is nearly identical
>>336027617
>its not the 80s or 90s anymore, games are supposed to be slow nowadays just go play your pixleated shitty Doom
And you dumb cunts are telling me that these aren't paid shills? Give me a break.
>>336027617
>lul so randum xD anymore like in 80s or 90s
I got cancer reading that
>>336027715
Nice strawman.
>>336027762
Good. I hope it's ass cancer in terminal stage.
I thought console peasants love D44M?
>>336027631
>i-its just the FOV that makes it look as slow as Halo
It sounds like you are just pulling shit out of your ass senpai
>>336026304
The multiplayer beta really hurt this game's reputation. The singleplayer looks fun but because of the awful multiplayer done by Certain Ashitiny people are also shitting on the singleplayer too on principle. It's gonna be a shame when this game comes out and people hate it, despite the singleplayer campaign being the best FPS campaign in a long time.
>>336027854
Calm down anon, you're still getting paid.
>>336027770
What the fuck, that was literally your entire argument, that a game can't be fast because of physics and realism and that old Doom is shit because of it.
>>336028035
>the singleplayer campaign being the best FPS campaign in a long time
LOL
>>336022353
One of the worst thing about D44M is having all these millenials come in and start praising Doom 3 with absolutely no arguments. It was mediocre then, it's mediocre now. The few people that remember it do so because of the graphics (which were admitedly quite decent at the time, even for today's standards), but everything else sucked, specially if you judge it as a doom game. D44M does not look great by any measure, but at least it looks a bit more like Doom.
>>336028035
Bethesda should have known better than to get them. Their track record is fucking awful, so why did they hire them for their next big flagship title? Idiots.
>>336028035
>despite the singleplayer campaign being the best FPS campaign in a long time
+$5 has been added to your account
>>336028035
The multiplayer and singleplayer have the same gameplay (same weapons, same movement, same speed and same melee finishers) so what the hell are you talking about?
>>336020532
Judging by the footage available it seems like something I can enjoy, but it's a damn shame they didn't commit to making it like the first two Doom games.
Watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfEsZcGfTwY the gameplay reminds me of Doom 3. Dark, cramped, and spooky. But not "Doom".
>>336028282
the multiplayer has a weapon limit and shit maps
>>336028035
>shutting on principal
Does this really happen?
>>336028184
This seriously. I like DOOM 3, but to say DOOM 4 looks worse than it is fucking dumb. DOOM 4 looks way more faithful to the originals than DOOM 3 ever was.
>>336028171
>>>/reddit/
>>336020532
This game will suck, but it will also be a huge financial success.
This game is marketed to kids who know how awesome Doom is but have never actually played it. The misaimed nostalgia market is gigantic.
>>336028184
Ooh I just remembered, controlling machines with control panels using the cross hair as a mouse cursor was pretty neat.
>>336020532
Could have been worse, they could have made it exactly like DOOM 1.
>>336028461
Yes, that's where Zenifags should go
>>336028282
There's actually a shit ton of multiplayer weapons that won't shop up in the singleplayer campaign for some reason. Probably because a lot of them are fucking redundant. There's like 5 different fucking railgun style guns.
Are there any zombie soldiers in this game or did they just fucked it up so bad, they dont look like possesed humans but rather cyborg flesh things that would fit into Quake 2?
Do they even know what a possesed soldier looks like?
>>336028582
green texting lol fags belong on >>>>/reddit/
>>336028461
But Reddit would agree that D4 has a brilliant singeplayer campaign
>>336027975
Play them both, back to back, with the same FOV. Difference in movement speed is negligible. UT has a lighter feel to its movement with a dash, and a greater forward momentum when jumping, but that's about it
>>336028478
> but it will also be a huge financial success.
I hope it will.
This is something that might cure industry from health regen and linear level bullshit we had for almost a decade.
I mean seriously
>no health regen
>no reloading
>no sprint button
>non linear levels with key hunting
and people still shit on it because "waah it's not like muh 1993 game waah ;_;".
>>336028714
The new former humans look like cyborgs because after they've been possessed their armor and guns have become fused with their bodies.
I think that's much cooler than the old "zombies with guns" honestly.
>>336028807
My only beef is that it seems the best way to get health and ammo fast is to do the glory kills. I mean, yea they're neat but I don't want to have to go through an animation that breaks up gameplay to get some HP.
>>336028194
I enjoyed the multiplayer for what it was, but there are so many better choices for multiplayer devs. Get Raven software to make it, holy shit. It's not like they're doing anything else these days
>>336028807
>"waah it's not like muh 1993 game waah ;_;"
+$5
>>336028957
Actually glory kills only seem to give you a little bit of armor ONLY if you have a certain demon rune equipped. The best way to get health is still medkits in the level.
>>336020962
When's drla 1.1
>>336028807
>finishers
>season pass
>quest markers
Hope it fails miserably 2bh
>>336028807
This guy gets it
>Serious Sam 3 was shit
>Shadow Warrior was shit
>Hard Reset was shit
>RotT was shit
>Wolfenstein TNO was shit
Why can't I at least hope this will be okay in this barren wasteland of complete shit single player FPSs.
>>336029094
If it fails more games will copy CoD and Halo because it's safer.
>>336029094
>>season pass
isn't that multiplayer content?
>>336027630
You think gameplay videos can accurately convey how fun a game will be? That's why Watchdogs turned out to be such a good game right?
>>336029046
Do they? I was watching the gameplay anon posted and yea there were medkits but the player was constantly doing glory kills when low on ammo as if he needed to do them.
I kinda like how the pistol is infinite ammo. It actually has a reason to be used over a chaingun.
>>336029094
>Two of those three things can be turned off
Season pass is fucking atrocious though, holy shit
>>336029195
>Shadow Warrior was shit
>Serious sam 3 was shit
What are you talking about? they were great
>>336029195
>>Serious Sam 3 was shit
>>Wolfenstein TNO was shit
>Shadow Warrior was shit
you just hate video games
>>336028807
You are way too optimist and/or blind
>enemies drop health when glory-killed, which is a major focus of the combat mechanics
>there is no sprint button but the game isn't really that fast anyway
>levels are pretty linear and key hunting simply means going in an alternate path that loops back to the beginning
I'll give you no reloading, that is nice. Other than that it's shit. Shadow Warrior or the latest Wolfenstein were way better promises of old-school design coming back, D44M is not. Like, at all.
>>336027715
It's a mental disability to not be able to comprehend that people have different legitimate opinions to you.
>>336029195
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is bait
>>336029195
I enjoyed the later levels of Serious Sam 3
>>336029235
You're right, listening to baseless speculation on /v/ is a much better representation of the game.
>>336022990
>Imps behind doors ready to jump on you
>monsters spawn around and behind you
>wepons have weird damage, especially shotgun which sometimes kills in one shot, sometimes it doesn't
Those are far more common "problems" than you think in older shooters.
>>336029228
Yes
>>336029339
>>there is no sprint button but the game isn't really that fast anyway
It's actually quite fast for a modern game. Not nearly as fast as doing circles around Revenants though.
>pls have mods
>>336029467
why would you play doom for the multiplayer?
>>336029420
Nice strawman. but no, playing the game for yourself is the only indicator of wether or not you will enjoy playing the game.
>>336029414
Which was better: First half of SS3, or Serious Sam 2?
>>336029224
This to be honest. Hate on DOOM 4 all you want /v/, but if the game fails then expect another 5 fucking years of Halo and Call of Duty shit.
inb4 some dumbshit tells me DOOM 4 is just Halo without any fucking examples of why it is, other than the awful multiplayer that is.
>>336020532
That isn't overwatch
>>336020962
Doom 3
>>336029339
>>enemies drop health when glory-killed, which is a major focus of the combat mechanics
its literally the least efficient way of killing enemies
>>336029286
>finishers
>turned off
>>336028807
Oh boy, now the industry will be flooded with slow a fuck gameplay, press x to melee, and healing kills instead! Yeah!
>>336029339
>Shadow Warrior
>old-school design
lol no it's not old-school at all.
It's nothing like the original and is more like bulletstorm clone with medkits.
Shadow Warrior 2 is even worse, because it's a borderlands clone with random generated levels and bullet sponge enemies.
>>336029541
Snap map looks neat, but yeah, that DLC has no reason to exist
>>336029286
>>Two of those three things can be turned off
Can this meme die please? You can turn off the highlight but the mechanic is there. There are tons of upgrades which revolve around glory kills (even one that speeds you up for fuck's sake) so you'd be missing on a part of the game if you ignore it. It is an important part of the design, and I'm pretty sure you'll be forced to abuse it on higher difficulties. Glory kills should have not made it into the game. Same for the shitty chainsaw animation and the temporary berserk pack.
>>336022990
>>wepons have weird damage, especially shotgun which sometimes kills in one shot, sometimes it doesn't
The Doom 3 shotgun has an extremely wide spread. If you're right in front of an enemy, they'll die almost every time. Not sure why they did this. I guess because if it didn't have a huge spread you wouldn't have a reason to use the machine gun, the mini gun, and the energy gun.
>>336029662
have you considered shooting them?
>>336029195
It must suck so much not being able to enjoy anything. Thank god I'm not you.
>>336029353
>post just insults people who hate the game
>m-muh onions ;___;
>weapons have no reloading
>but weapons have an extremely low ammo count
>>336021628
A fun and criminally underated game that truly did its own shit instead of being a COD clone in an age of COD clones?
>>336029631
TRIGGERED
>>336029286
How bad are the quest markers? The problem I typically have with quest markers is that in games designed around them the level design isn't intelligently designed to lead players to the objectives and just relies on big arrows instead.
Are the levels well designed but just have markers for complete retards?
From the footage I've seen I feel that it's the enemies who aren't fast paced and not the player.
>>336029339
>Wolfenstein better promise of old school
Fucking how? Modernized bullshit of the tallest order. Cutscenes, QTEs, fucking turret sections, hitscan bulletsponge enemies, cover mechanics, fucking story-filled hubworld, collectathon
Christ I think I get it. You niggers can't tell what an "old school" FPS is because you've never fucking played one.
>>336029742
>and the energy gun.
dat plasma gun firing and reloading sounds
>>336029883
You forgot
>stealth sections
>>336029645
Is it glory kills, or just kills?
>>336029670
>Shadow Warrior 2 is even worse, because it's a borderlands clone with random generated levels and bullet sponge enemies.
how are they sponge enemies?
>>336029616
>First half of SS3
>The only somewhat decent one being level 3
>mfw
>>336029617
Shadow warrior 2 and Serious sam 4 success are far more important if you want to see some different fps other than military and class based, which are the new hot shit.
>>336029758
No I'm being totally serious. if you think it's physically impossible for someone to legitimately like this game despite them telling you that they like it, you have a mental problem.
>>336029887
You know, funny you should say that. I can't remember the name of the gun, but I sure as shit remember how it sounds.
>>336029746
>just d-don't melee them
Except when I want to melee or use one of the best things in original Doom I don't want a fucking cutscene.
>>336029224
>>336029617
But it is a copy of Halo.
Its just as slow as Halo, but with retarded glory kills and healing kills instead
>>336029662
They said in the stream the other day you can turn finishers off, save for the chainsaw (which having as a finisher is a shitty design decision imo)
>>336029339
What? This is so fucking wrong. DOOM 4 looks way more old school than WOLF: TNO. Wolfenstein's level design takes a huge dip in quality near the halfway point and its got so many levels that are complete pacing killers. I love Wolfenstein: TNO, but DOOM looks like it'll be way more old school. DOOM 4 looks like it'll barely have any story getting in the way and it'll mostly be mostly running and gunning. Just hope the level design stays good throughout the campaign.
>>336029992
>nobody likes game for a year
>suddenly a week before release people are spamming threads insulting people
leave
>>336028421
>DOOM 4 looks way more faithful to the originals than DOOM 3 ever was.
That's the exact opposite of the truth, you fuckwit.
>>336030013
>Except when I want to melee or use one of the best things in original Doom I don't want a fucking cutscene.
are you kidding me the chainsaw was never a useful weapon
>>336029862
Not sure, but theres is an in-game map, so there's no need for markers
>>336030089
>no footage of finishers off
Its going to be like Th4if where it will fuck up the game in some way, guarantee it.
>>336030013
>But it is a copy of Halo.
Stop saying this you autist.
>>336030095
People have been defending this game ever since the original trailer so I don't know why you'd make something like this up, unless, as I said, you have mental problems.
And the amount of threads is only increasing because we're getting closer to the release date, just like what happens with every big name game.
>>336029269
That's because Hugo Martin, the person playing really, really loves to do glory kills. In one article it mentioned he's called the "glory kill fiend" around the office. You don't have to spam them constantly like he does if you don't want to.
>>336029645
You couldn't be more wrong. when an enemy is in the "staggered" state there are two options:
>Use ammo and kill them with no reward
>Do a glory kill, waste no ammo and get health back
And there are upgrades which increase the benefits of doing a glory kill.
>>336029670
>>336029883
Those games were RELATIVELY better than D44M when it comes to old-school mechanics coming back. Of course they still had flaws. Learn to read faggots.
>You niggers can't tell what an "old school" FPS is because you've never fucking played one.
I've literally just completed Hell Revealed
>>336025528
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>>336030221
>STOP HATING MY GAME YOU BULLY
>>336030161
>are you kidding me the chainsaw was never a useful weapon
ez Pinky and Cacodemon killing
>>336029937
>He didn't play Wolfenstine 1 and 2 on an Apple II
Is almost like you're not 50 years old
>>336030161
>are you kidding me the chainsaw was never a useful weapon
>can stunlock Cacos, Pinkies, basically instakill zombies and imps
It's like you never played the original game
>>336029883
How about "old school" is just fucking boring?
>>336030186
To be fair, when you have a stream showing features of the game, you tend to show the different things you can do with a feature, not a lack of it.Still not defending them, game looks 7/10 weekend shooter at best if nightmare mode isn't as ridiculous as it should be
>>336030290
>
>>336030161
You can rek a Cacodemon with the chainsaw. That way you save the 10 shells/2+ rockets/whatever it would take to kill it with ammo
>>336030269
a single shotgun shell is enough to kill them at close range and its faster too
>>336030013
I didn't know Halo had non-regenerating health and no weapon carry limit. Maybe I should actually play the newer Halo games if this is the case.
>>336030312
Why not just use a gun
>>336030013
Then don't play the game. Go find some other thread, in fact here, here's the /vr/ general for old doom in case you weren't aware it existed. >>3177152
Go there and talk about stuff you actually like, or go to any other board and talk about any other thing you like. 150 threads x dozens of boards and you chose to come to this board on this thread about a thing you don't like just to complain about it.
Why is so much of /v/ just incapable of enjoying themselves and feels the need to shitpost constantly about things they hate instead of talking about things they like?
>>336030269
>use ammo to kill enemy instead of glory kill them
Or, you could, you know, let them fall over dead because they are already fucking dead. Why waste ammo?
>>336030404
Do people actually liked the original Nightmare mode? I can't stand regenerating enemies.
>>336029821
>>336030093
>DOOM 4 will mostly be running and gunning
Yeah, how fun will that be with 1 MPH speed and press x to kill
>>336030013
Halo does not have medkits, ammo boxes has linear levels, no keys whatsoever and you can't carry more than 2 weapons.
Like i said all these features might return because they worked and people were okay with them.
If Doom fails bethesda will think it was way too hard for people and they should simplify it.
And next ID game will have regenerating health, iron sights, reloading, sprinting and some cover system.
>>336020532
I was rdy 2 y3ars ago
>>336030613
Literally shaking right now
>>336030516
not him, but chainsaw easily triggers the low pain threshold of those monsters making it easier to stunlock them, saving a lot of ammo since they have a decent chunk of hit points compared to other low level monsters.
>>336030516
Takes a lot of ammo to kill a Pinky. Chainsaw is essential in many custom WADs and in many maps in Episode 4 of Final Doom and Plutonia/TNT
>>336030613
was that part supposed to be hard?
>>336020532
Yea, I pre-ordered it.
>>336030613
which one is this?
>>336030763
Meant "takes a lot of ammo to kill a Caco". Pinky dies in two shells
Chainsaw can still be useful to down a mob of Pinkies without wasting like 16 shells
>>336030613
Regular kleers horde are bretty fun but that part is ptsd material.
>>336030745
I get that, but why would you need to save ammo in doom? Shit was all over the place
>>336020532
>implying it will flop
Normies will buy the game. And I'm sure that they'll like it.
The game's advertising is too big to fail.
>>336030776
It was pretty hard if you hadn't found the cannon yet. Which I believe was behind some bullshit "press action in this otherwise plain wall" secret.
>>336030613
>stand behind spike trap
>let them all fall in
>>336030908
The proper way to play is from a pistol start
>>336030908
Some levels don't have a lot of ammo.
>>336030763
Rarely used the chainsaw in Ep. 4 amd never had a problem, but I never got around to Plutonia/TNT. Any good?
>>336030523
>WAAAAH STOP CRITICIZING MY GAME ON /v/
>B-BUT PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON /v/
Nice double standard shill
>>336030670
If they really cared about people who want a good FPS, they wouldn't have shit speed, glory kills, objectives and quests, and weapon upgrades
>>336030961
Ding ding ding!
Developers dont need to cater to the no life gamers any more as casuals have oversaturated the market.
>>336030613
Friendly reminder on what makes Doom-like games good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOObGjCA7Q
Nobody ever said
>Man, the enemies in Doom 4 are really unique and challenging.
>>336030776
You were pretty much fucked if you wasted minigun and laser ammos in the previous section, and the cannon was hidden
>>336030815
TFE HD.
>>336031065
Yeah, but all the levels before it do
>>336031081
I hope you played on UV. Plutonia/TNT is even harder than E4 so if you liked it you're probably gonna like them
A few gimmick "puzzle" levels though. Hope you like Revenants
>>336024045
>Making it faster will only make it look stupid and unrealistic.
>>336031015
You fucking wish nigger, they keep running on the edge without falling, they only fall if they're hit by bullets but even then after a short while the spike trap closes and lets them pass.
>>336031081
> I never got around to Plutonia/TNT
You should definetly play them, they are the gateway to the best part of Doom: user-made wads. Plutonia is pretty hard and has memorable fights but level design is meh, TNT has more beautiful and huge levels but combat isn't as fun. I think both are better than Doom 2 levels though.
>>336031081
no stick with doom 1 and 2
>discounts on the game before it even releases
That's how you know it's going to be crap. They're just trying to hype those preorders because it won't sell for shit after it comes out.
>>336020532
But that's not Homefront/Battleborn/Mafia 3
>>336031113
You're not criticizing, you're shitposting. You come here day in day out, instead of talking about things you actually enjoy and you shitpost about something you hate. Then when people call you out, you accuse them of being shills because you like shitposting and can't possibly comprehend that the thought that most people talk about things they enjoy. You will never be capable of an interesting conversation as long as you live because you only shitpost about things you hate. You will never meet a person with similiar interests because instead of talking about those things, you shitpost about things you hate. And you will never leave your mother's basement because that would mean less shitposting time. You are everything wrong with the nu/v/ generation. You don't want to have fun or talk about things you just want to come here and shitpost day in day out because apparently you have no fucking life.
>>336031113
>If they really cared about people who want a good FPS,
They don't. They care about sales and don't want to risk needlessly. The New Order was okay in terms of sales, so they allowed ID to make doom they way it is now.
>>336031553
Where is it discounted?
>>336027565
Inbetween chapters, after reading those walls of text it was pretty obvious they were going for as much edge as a 90s game could get
>>336027424
They instantly think it will bomb, maybe this will reinvent Doom and a lot of people are going to ask for a sequel for this game, who knows, maybe we need to play the fucking game first
>>336027630
Watching someone play a game and playing it are different things anon
>>336024945
You have to, faggot.
It rewards more ammo, health, and armor doing so. The game is built around it.
>>336031374
Mow them down with a machine gun and deal with the one that come over then keep cheesing the trap
>>336030670
>Halo does not have medkits
M I L L E N I A L
>>336020532
normies and consolekiddies will eat this up
>>336031728
>some monster killed you and now you're in hell, please play the next episodes
>edgy
?
>>336031549
Literally git gud
>>336031975
>Older than 35
>still coming to /v/
How's it like to know your life never really took off grandpa?
>>336032124
If you show this to anyone today they would ask you if a 10 yro edgy teenager wrote this
>>336031975
>M I L L E N I A L
If you're above 35 and still come to this site, fucking kill yourself.
>>336027459
This is why I loved doom3, its sort of like a alien isolation type game, instead of some shit run and gun game.
>>336032374
I'm not seeing the edge
>>336032303
I can't tell you, you'll see in 20 years.
This game is going to fucking suck
Anons if you want to play DOOM just buy DOOM 1 and install Brutal Doom
Million times better than this trash
>>336031975
Halo 1 is not even popular anymore, nobody plays it.
And there were no medkits in other games except for reach and it was some half-assed mechanic for nostalgiafags " those who remember" and it was not all that useful.
