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so how angry are you when they do this shit?
I just move on and not think about it like it's holy sin that comes out
2 of those are because they ported their shit to more relevant consoles.
The other is made by literal faggots.
I don't get angry because there are a million other games to play and I'm not a raging spoiled child.
>>336012308
Persona 5 will release this year tho
>>336013026
>this year
>>336012308
I tend to stab my knees
>>336013073
What makes you think otherwise?
Not at all, because I'm an adult.
>>336012308
All those games are garbage. Especially P5.
>>336013124
Persona 5 now also for the PS4.5
>add another 8-16 months development time
>>336012308
im not a manchild, have an extensive backlog, and will play the game when its 'hopefully' released properly
>>336013124
for all we know that announcement could be the japanese date and seeing how a bad move would be to release the game around FFXV season they would have to do 2017
>>336013246
>Add another 8-16 years for the Europe release
>>336013124
Not him, and I do want it to come out this year.
But there's not even a JP date for it, no ones seen anything since last year.
The best you could say is Christmas this year, you'll have to forgive me if I'm sceptical, though.
>>336013246
The PS4 point 5 is not a new system though. It's the same console with better specs.
>>336012308
Literal scam, I don't understand how people put up with this shit.
>>336013353
>no ones seen anything since last year.
This week mate
>>336012308
Not even remotely, as long as it's actually being improved and not downgraded or stuck in development hell.
>That insanely rare feel when a game you wanted gets uncancelled
>>336014102
That's not them intentionally scamming. It's them being incompetent announcing these things too early, and thinking they get them done in time.
>>336013353
>he doesn't know
>>336012308
not very.
>>336014187
>>336014194
It could be intentional scamming though. Just look at Zelda's announcement, or more specifically when it was announced. It was announced right off the heels of Mario Kart 8, with Hyrule Warriors, Bayo 2, and Smash 4 not too far away, not to mention they also announced Splatoon and Star Fox at the same time. They could've announced it early to try and get some extra sales for what was probably gonna be the best year the Wii U was gonna have for sales.
Both Zelda delays got an audible "are you fucking kidding me" but nothing more than that.
I bought my Wii U (in 2014) not specifically for Zelda, but certainly excited knowing I was going to play it as I do love the series.
In the end there's absolutely dick all I can do about a game delay, so there is absolutely no reason to get angry over it - it'd just be a waste of time and energy.If I Kickstarted anything (like Mighty Delay #9) then I'd actually be pissed. But I'm not a retard who Kickstarts
>>336014352
You shouldn't buy a system for a game, till said game is out though. That's like buying a PS3 for Versus 13 or Last Guardian.
http://www.vgchartz.com/article/259678/reggie-we-dont-announce-games-5-or-6-years-in-advance-like-other-companies/
I don't understand why anyone gets mad about delays with the exception of cases like Mighty No 9.
Why you'd be angry at the developer/publisher willingly taking more time to construct what they're making better for a product you haven't paid for yet (ie Zelda and Persona in OP pic) I don't understand.
>>336014297
I've never played an etrian odyssey game.
Sell me on the series. Can I jump staright into V without having played any of the older ones?
>>336014570
Reggie is the biggest fucking cunt on planet earth.
>>336014583
because the devs didn't keep their promise? how does your brain work?
>don't worry son we'll go to disneyland next year for sure!!!
>>336014352
There's no proven bump in sales for a system when games get announced, so it's highly unlikely any company would do this in a major way. Perhaps in the launch period where their reach is as large as possible but of course they mention literally everything they can during launch period.
If you don't believe me, look at hardware sales after E3 every year. They do not change, and if they do its because the thing that caused the change was released that day (ie the time Microsoft announced the 360 Slim at E3 and that it was releasing that day).
>>336014759
Sorry, didn't realize they'd personally promised you that regardless of anything that happens in the future the game WILL come out on their first estimate of a release date.
>>336014759
Are you actually an autistic five year old?
It's a little annoying but mostly it makes me worried that something has gone wrong in development. P5's initial delay made sense when they announced the PS4 version, but the extra year is confusing. MN9 has been delayed how long over "matchmaking" which doesn't seem like it should be that difficult to pull off, and Zelda was clearly delayed just to become an NX launch title, so both those cases are a little more annoying.
>>336014664
1st person dungeon crawling where you draw your own maps for each floor on the touch screen. It's up to you to make something that you'll find useful for navigating. You build a party of up to five characters on front- and back rows, with different character classes having different skill trees and utility. Some well done turn-based combat. People sometimes exaggerate EO's difficulty, but the series isn't a total walk in the park either.
Nice music. Story is there but isn't at the forefront.
There are free demos for EO4 and EOUntold (remake of the first EO) on the 3DS eshop. EO4 is a pretty good game to jump into the series with.
The games are fairly loosely connected, with only a couple nods to the others in each successive game, so you can start with any, including EO5 most likely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXFtlBws0VA
>>336012308
When I see a delay I pray that the game will still be all I hope for, delays mean
1. production is failing, things may have been cut or will be cut.
2. Marketing and production team is enforcing changes, either for monetary reasons or because of alpha feedback.
I think majority of games are rushed as they are, i'm fine with delays AS LONG as the eventual outcome is what the team set out to do in the first place.
>>336014914
sure it's not a binding contract, but it's pretty reasonable to expect from them to be at least SOMEWHAT on time, since people buy the consoles expecting the games to be delivered
Think about the people who bought the WiiU for Zelda and now it turns out it's gonna be on the NX too
>>336014928
good argument lad
>>336012308
Not very. quite disappointed though.
laughing my ass off when MN9 gets delayed because I didn't back that shit.
Zelda and Persona are fine
MN9 however is bullshit given that his excuse for the delay originally was for networking, but now he's too long and is full of shit
>>336015273
>Think about the people who bought the WiiU for Zelda and now it turns out it's gonna be on the NX too
If you buy an entire console for one specific game before it's released, you're a fucking idiot.
>>336014735
>>336015396
why does nintendo put up with this guy
>>336015374
but people do that, and that's why they get upset, which is what I was answering
I personally wouldn't do that either
>>336014352
Zelda U(NX) was announced in january(may have been in february dont remember) 2013.
That game was specifically announced to generate sales, because they realized they need something to get people to buy a wii u.
Yes Zelda U was a Bait & Switch like you would find it in the playbooks.
>>336015273
>Think about the people who bought the WiiU for Zelda and now it turns out it's gonna be on the NX too
But the game is still coming to Wii U. GCN owners still got to play TP in the end, and didn't have to buy a new system in the end for it.
>>336012308
>Persona 5
I would rather wait for SMTIV Apocalypse.
>Mighty Number 9
Still laughing at the people who threw money at this.
>Zelda
Just make sure it's ready for the NX launch.
>>336012308
I'm not.
>actually wanting a rushed piece of shit with cut content and inexplicably boarded up doorways that look like they should lead to content but don't
If I were a billionaire and I could commission the creation of a game, I would tell the developers not to release it until it's 101% done
>>336015496
Really? They specified during the announcement "We're announcing this so you'll buy a Wii U right now"? That would make about as much sense are supposedly announcing it to generate sales. Since it doesn't make sense when you bring a functioning brain into the equation.
Zelda U was doubtless announced to generate interest, to get people talking about the system, but interest isn't sales.
>>336015496
>deliberately spreading misinfo
The constant delays are shitty for Nintendo to do, but it's definitely going to release on WiiU. Stop shitposting
I don't get mad at all. I have a ridiculous backlog so delays give me more time to get through it.
>>336015396
I can't concieve why this game flopped with such genius marketing
>>336012308
>Persona
Never cared for it, but with the uphevals at Atlus I could understand it in theory. But I have no idea how long this been going on for.
>MN9
A game being created from the ground up. I'd expect to take longer. Though the rest doesn't seem to be encouraging.
>Zelda
I do like Zelda. But Zelda games get delayed. I might only be 28 but from my living memory I understand that's what fucking Zelda games do. Maybe I'd be upset when the game had a non-placeholder name and a specific release date.
I just stop caring about the game and then don't buy it. Games that get delayed that often always end up mediocre anyway.
>>336012308
>getting mad at delays
are you a 12 yearold?
>>336012308
I'm not very angry, even if it's a game I really wanted to play I haven't been slighted personally. If they need more time to make it, then that's just how things are.
>>336016567
Anyone who remains "hype" for 6 years is a fucking retard.
>>336016060
https://youtu.be/4MzG6lDA1A0
The whole thing was one giant damage control to sell people on the wii u.
>>336016127
>Promise game for one platform in the kear future
>Delay it until your next platform is out
>Port it to your new platform while having the others ,who bought the platform for it and were promised the game in 2015, wait several months more just so you can port it
>Not a bait and switch
>>336014570
Maybe they should so fan criticism can be taken on board.
Fan criticism seems to have fixed Mario Maker and FFXV
>>336015273
>Think about the people who bought the WiiU for Zelda and now it turns out it's gonna be on the NX too
But it's still coming to the Wii U. They still get their game.
>>336016643
Being "hyped" is the dumbest fucking thing. The worst are the faggots who say "ugh I'm not interested in [X] anymore because of delays, the hype died down."
As if it makes a fucking difference when the game releases. You'll still buy it and have fun with it, stop being a social media mouth-breather.
>>336016817
>As if it makes a fucking difference when the game releases.
It does moron.
What you thought was impressive 6 years ago, isn't today. See FF15, Last Guardian,etc.
>You'll still buy it
Nope.
>stop being a social media mouth-breather.
Mouth breathers are retards like you who ignore every game that has been delayed several times/years turning out to be average. NO THIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT!
>>336012308
Just derails the hype, its almost a good thing because in the past ive rode hype trains into buying shit games at launch, 9/10 times I wont buy a delayed game until its at least half off its original price.
I don't mind that Zelda got delayed. I mind that it got delayed for the express purpose of launching it on a new console, which won't even be shown at E3.
Exact same shit they pulled with Twilight Princess, and I was mad then too. I'm done with Nintendo for good now.
>>336017096
>Mouth breathers are retards like you who ignore every game that has been delayed several times/years turning out to be average.
Not him but they probably be worse off it they weren't delayed then. Also a lot of games do come off for the better delayed generally. OOT was delayed a lot. Compare that to Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine which were rushed out for the GCN.
>>336016785
>>336015768
but the value of the game isn't the same
if you try to argue this I won't bother replying anymore
>>336016167
yokai watch didn't flop, it sold really well.
>>336017215
What's wrong with that? Does everyone want the NX to fail or start off weak?
>>336017471
>Does everyone want the NX to fail
They should.
>>336016651
that was the announcement for link between worlds though
>>336015181
Thanks for the info anon. Saw someone posting about new character classes in EOV that got me a little hyped.
Also how loosely connected are we talking about here? I have the tendency to get burnt out really easily when marathoning through a series, so I'll probably start off with EO4.
>>336016651
>The whole thing was one giant damage control to sell people on the wii u.
And yet what they are not doing is selling limited edition Wii Us with vouchers for this Zelda game. Which is something they've kind of done before with the Collector's edition release for Wind Waker preorders.
Nintendo was not trying to generate WiiU sales from the announcement, they the only purpose of mentioning Zelda U is the interest in the system, and that they were also unveiling ALBW. That is synergy, not a single sales pitch to sell a console for a game that isn't out.
>>336017471
The better question is why do you care so much about the NX having success? Unless you arent a stockholder their is no valid sane reason to choose a company having more money on their bank over customers not being treated like dumb walking ATMs.
>>336012308
there's always that quote from miyamoto and while I do look for those games, it's not like I'll die without em
>>336017610
>Wii u direct
>like between worlds
>Wii U
>HD zelda
>Zelda for Wii u
>b-b-but it was link between worlds
>after link between worlds was already announced
Are you retarded by chance?
>>336017471
I don't want the NX to start off weak, but I expect it to. Nintendo do nothing but make mistakes and bad decisions these days. Their games have been dropping in quality for the last 10 years, and everything they do is pretty much the exact opposite of what their fans want.
Honestly, the best this Zelda can hope for is to be better than Skyward Sword, because it's sure as hell not going to surpass anything made by pre-Wii Nintendo.
>>336016643
>hype
fucking normies
>>336017756
Brand loyalty is one hell of a drug
>>336012308
Only with Nintendo because I have a trust issue with them and I was very hesitant to come back to them w/ the Wii U because of bullshit like this.
To background clarify I had dumped the Wii due to their shit release schedule and only came back for Bayonetta 2 as well as Zelda U.
>>336012308
Not angry, just disappointed.
Frankly I've come to expect that almost all non-film release dates are false.
>>336012308
idgaf because I have a huge backlog.
>>336017653
Like, real loose. They're all standalone, but a couple lines by NPCs in sidequests and the like may reference locations in other games and stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZjnuS6ESc
>>336012308
I hate it when companies announce something which isn't ready at all. I know it's to generate hype, but the wait isn't worth it.
>>336018116
>Being a Reggie tier casual
>>336017471
Fuck off man. I don't care what happens with the NX. I just want to play the new Zelda.
>>336016651
>watching that FE X SMT trailer all over again
In general I don't mind delays because it usually means they're taking the time to make the game better. What I am upset about though, is the fact that the new Zelda is going to be on the NX as well. I feel like they're shitting on the people that decided to give the WiiU a try. It's not the end of the world, but if they NX version has major features that the WiiU version doesn't I will be pissed.
>>336012308
Not at all.
>>336019010
Expected: SMT x FE
Got: TMS #FE
>>336017215
>>336017471
The problem I see with both of these positions is that they assume there's a mutual causation. The game is delayed to put it on the NX, and make it a console mover. As if that is clearly what happened in the case of TP. But that was in the final leg of its release window, it got delayed at least twice before that. TP was a mess and actually had content cut in order to make the 2006 release. I actually think that was more to the game's detriment than porting it. That being the case I can't imagine the plans for TP were as resource or detail intensive as a freeroam map of Hyrule would be ala Zelda U.
I have yet to see proof the game is ready to launch at all. Really think now, I had assumed the launch window, as of the previous teaser was 2016 to mean "holiday 2016". While a 3 month delay into Spring 2017 is a significant wait, it is not going to be significant development time.
>>336019832
Anon Zelda Wii U was clearly delayed for NX, keep in mind it was confirmed for releasing in 2015 but after finally accepting that the Wii U was dying Nintendo made the logical choice of not wasting all their work on a swan song for a dead console and instead entice people to embrace NX.
>>336020185
Then why did they only now announce it when they announced the delay of Zelda U to 2016 at relatively the same time as the NX? Why did the 2014 footage look like high-contrast ass that only the 2015 teaser seemed to rectify?
The game absolutely wasn't ready to launch based on the 2014 gameplay, and the 2015 footage is still probably touched up. They wouldn't delay it 3 years for a simullaunch if that's all they wanted. They'd rerelease a bonus edition with a Master Quest Legend of Zelda U DX hailed as "The definite version".
>>336021249
>Then why did they only now announce it
Because Twilight Princes and Star Fox came out and failed to boost Wii U sales, now there's nothing coming out for it and no reason to buy a Wii U from here on out.
>>336017756
Successful consoles get support.
You know how so many people are complaining about the Wii U's short life-cycle and small library, in particularly the small third party library? Both of those are due to low sales. If the Wii U sold well, third parties would have more incentive to port games to it or develop exclusives for it, while Nintendo would have an incentive to keep it going a little longer. It sold badly, so no-one has any reason to support it.
People want the NX to be a success so it gets games and sticks around.
>>336022172
It's pretty true. PS2 and PS4 are supported as they are so far due to their success.
>>336015396
>that hip wiggle
Not now, boner.
>>336014759
>Son I just heard a report that they've shut down 90% of the attractions at Disney world for renovation. But since you're an autistic fuck I'll take you down for 2 days so we can see the 10%. Don't think we'll be going back either because trips to Disney are expensive.
Which one will come out first?
>Dude Zelda is being delayed for the NX!
The Wind Waker had a four year development period and released unfinished.
Twilight Princess had a four year development period and released unfinished.
Skyward Sword had a five year development period and released unfinished.
Zelda U will have had a six year development period and will probably be released unfinished.
The Nintendo Zelda team is really bad at time management. They always bite off more than they can chew and end up having to cut huge chunks off the game to get it out in any kind of reasonable time-frame. Don't get me wrong, they're a million miles above Ubisoft or Bethesda, every Zelda game has great quality assurance, but they're all missing dungeons or gameplay mechanics or force you to backtrack for long periods of time.
>>336012308
Not at all, since I have multiple systems and other hobbies because I am a well adjusted adult.
>>336022172
>>336022337
The Wii had a huge install base and shitty shitty third party support.
>>336022172
>in particularly the small third party library? Both of those are due to low sales
Actually that's due to Nintendo's long standing relationship with third parties ever since the 90's, which has always been terrible.
Low sales just give them a good excuse not to make Wii U games.
>>336022337
The PS2 had games releasing as late as 2013. It's insane.
>>336022683
>multiple systems
>well adjusted adult.
I hope you are part of the gaming industry anon.
>>336022337
No, they're supported because Sony has really good relations with third parties. Even the PS3 was supported, the only reason you didn't see games at first was becasue the CELL is a bitch to program for.
>>336021968
That is all just argumentative to arrive at the conclusion. If Zelda U was supposed to be a killer App then other games not moving consoles makes little sense.
But your argument is actually that Zelda U was 'confirmed' for a 2015 and has secretly been done this entire time. But only was delayed into 2016 just to see if the console was worth releasing the game on to which facilitated a delay to 2017 because it would boost NX sales but still be released on the Wii U? That just provides people with only interest in Zelda U a cheaper option than the NX if they need to buy one or the other console to play the game.
>>336022683
I think you're on the wrong website. This website is for circlejerking 11 year olds who don't know what their dad looks like.
>>336022886
>That is all just argumentative to arrive at the conclusion.
Are you not being argumentative to arrive at your conclusion?
>>336022715
That's because the hardware was underpowered. The NX is at the moment a complete enigma, but at the very least it should be stronger then the Wii U and things can be different. Iwata is no longer the leader of Nintendo. Change is definitely happening.
>>336014337
this is why some games should stay dead.
truely the modern diakatana of its time.
>>336012308
I prefer they take their time. I'd rather wait a year or two then see a rushed, unfinished piece of shit with wonderful potential behind it.
>>336023103
The problem lies in the fact that almost all 3D Zelda games have been delayed to hell yet still released unfinished by their own admissions.
>>336022683
I post on a board for video game enthusiasts to tell everyone I have other hobbies that do not pertain to video games. Because I am an adult.
>>336023241
I just assumed it was a general question about delays of games, I don't care about any in the OP.
>>336012308
What's the top right game?
>>336023072
>That's because the hardware was underpowered.
It wouldn't have mattered. Even if the NX is significantly more powerful than the other two consoles (and history shows it probably won't be), most third parties are still going to give Nintendo the hand me down treatment.
Iwata wasn't the reason Nintendo has poor third party support.
>>336022925
wew lad
>>336023072
>at the very least it should be stronger then the Wii U
PS4.5 will probably be accepted by the time the NX comes out.
>>336023321
Fair enough, on my part I would rather have them avoid dates, even shit like ''coming soon'' is less infuriating than clear dates meant to hype games that aren't finished.
>>336023298
>/v/
>for video game enthusiasts
I don't understand
>>336019832
>imsofuckedup.jpg
i just go on living my life and playing other the games or watching movies or anime or reading books etc that make up my huge backlogs
because im not a fucking child who obssesses over a single fucking game
people like you are the ones who make them money. you are there groveling at their feet for any info. you watch every trailer and demo and gameplay video. then you build incredible hype while taking in a lot of info about the game and then are ultimately disappointing because there is nothing you didnt already know about the game and it doesnt live up to the lofty expectations you have after dreaming and masturbating and obsessing over every fucking screenshot for years.
it is also people like you that makes devs super pressed to meet release dates and get games out unfinished and full of bugs and cut-content. which you then bitch about.
grow the fuck up and do other shit. if you dont want to get a life then play other games.
seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>336012308
well considering i've been waiting almost 6 years for one of them, i just feel defeated.
>>336015396
This is top-tier cringe
>>336012308
I was annoyed by Persona 5 because I was just really craving a new Persona on the then current gen systems. The fact that they just pretty much skipped the entire life cycle of the PS3 was pretty annoying.
Zelda for some reason I just knew wasn't coming out. For them to just release that teaser in 2015 just to say it was coming in 2016 with nothing else to show for it I knew they had nothing.
Mighty No. 9 is a scam.
>>336023632
You'd do the same thing.
>>336023365
Mighty #9.
>>336022973
Being argumentative is to take a position out of a reaction or contrarianism, and make arguments to then support it, rather than arriving at a conclusion though any other path of reason. "I think based on passed evidence regarding Zelda games, that delays are prone to happen and failry often" and "Well the game is currently announced as being released for 2 systems in 2017. It therefore follows it has been a conspiracy Nintendo secretly decided on in 2015 to arrive at the point they'd delay a completed game 2 years for this to happen, and tertiary events prove it." are different completely different modes of thought.
weeb games industry is finally feeling the effects of their longstanding failure to embrace new technologies. all at once. and it's going to kill finally kill them. and it's glorious and just and will open the way for a much brighter future overall.
>>336012308
I'm not, because I'm a jew-tier guy who only buys a game once it's out and confirmed to be at least decent.
For example, I didn't buy Dark Souls for a VERY long time due to the insane bullshit that happened to the PC version. I waited for a sale.
I usually feel like delays could be avoided if companies didn't announce shit until they knew.it was near completion. Like bash Bethesda all.you want but Fallout 4 was revealed when it was near completion ans came out the same year of it's reveal, just do that, don't keep people waiting years because you'll end up losing interest and sales
>>336023707
I miss the Action Adventure genre. Maybe if more than three companies made games in that genre I'd be less upset about waiting years between individual franchise releases.
>>336015374
>People bought ps4s
>mfw
>>336024223
japan overall is a very hard-headed/stubborn country in all regards.
they love to work, but not efficiently.
the perfect epitome is cleaning.
instead of just having 1 or 2 guys with a mop or some equipment cleaning a room in like 30 seconds, they have like 30 people with little hand rags get down on their hands and knees and scrub for 20 minutes.
its ineffective, inefficient, laborsome, expensive, difficult due to ignoring the concept of diminishing returns, and just plain dumb. but they just dont want to adapt. they dont.
>>336024148
tl;dr "My reasoning is sound and yours is argumentative and a conspiracy"
>>336024223
>implying they won't move over to mobile games like the western industry eventually will
>>336025281
If you have anything at all to add that doesn't require using the conclusion to prove evidence for it: then go ahead and say it.
Suggesting this, and again not even that right now the delay is only to make a colaunch with the NX, but that Nintendo knowingly lied on several occasions about the release of the game years ago, and this colaunch was always the plan: is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.
>Winter 2014
So, literally December? That is almost 2015
>delayed for half a year at Summer 2015
Reasonable.
>ok, the game is done but we are just polishing it further and working on that PS4 port. We will release it on Summer 2016, that's okay with you guys?
Sure, rushed games are the worst, leaving you a bad after taste of "what could have been".
I don't understand why some people get so impatient with video games releases.
Are video games the only thing you look forward to? I have a lot of games, TV shows and radio programs to get out my backlog, concerts and events to attend. Not to mention my responsibilities and hobbies I practice.
>>336014337
I'd be more pissed about all the stickers on the case.
>>336012308
Like 3/10
It's not that big of a deal
