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Blizzard just posted this. Both the gear and the character models are clearly from Vanilla WoW. Guys this is it. It's really going to happen. We are finally going to have legacy servers. It's 99% certain. Holy fuck Nostalrius literally saved gaming
never EVER
H A P P E N I N G
>>336010727
>Talking with Nostalrius guys this weekend
>Posting this
Ho shit nigga you might be right.
>>336010846
Why else would they do this? It's obviously a hint.
Sometimes I get the feeling that this was their plan all along. I'm not sure if Mark Kern was part of the big plan, but I think that the Nost team was waiting like "C'mon, I dare you to come shut us down. We have the greatest community, fans, and enthusiasts that will spread the word and fight back so we can all truely get what we really need/wanted."
I too would also like to thank the Nost. team and everyone else that took part.
Normally, in a situation like this I would have just said "eh, whatever" and just went to go play another game. This time, however, I felt like "Hell naw, time to put my foot down, I'm not going to accept this crap!" I had no idea this would get as far as it did, but we kept pushing.
This isn't over yet, but I have my wallet open ready to play some Legacy server.
wow just checked and it's real:
https://twitter.com/Blizzard_Ent/status/726124670353694721
It's a very good sign. They're probably looking to hire Nost and/or acquire the Nost source code, things they've no reason to care about unless they wanted to finally run legacy servers. Having Nost endorsement by Blizzard is the best thing for everyone, and although it'll most likely mean we'll have to pay a sub to play on it, I don't think anyone would complain about that. I'd pay a sub and start over from scratch if it came with official support, security, and no possibility of a shutdown. Private servers might be free, but they're usually broken out the ass, run terribly, aren't secure, have little to no support, and can eventually shutdown, taking all your work with it. Official servers would avoid all of these, and be worth paying for.
We could also get some hosted in the US, which would be a dream come true for Americans like myself, who are crippled playing on foreign servers. They don't host in the US because of legal problems, which official backing would totally remove. Regardless of where they hosted here, it would still be a winner for everyone vs playing on something on the other side of the world.
>>336011273
0/10
>>336011068
That's just it, Blizz has always been thinking about Legacy Servers, the big issue for them was having two separate levels of content on the same server list. Even Pristine Servers would just be the same content, but with some auxiliary features taken out. Even the taking down of Nost was a bit of a 'Well if we don't shut it down things might go badly, but let's make the best of it' situation.
Not everyone at Blizz is a 'You think you want it but you don't' shitter.
>>336011273
>>336011335
Stop derailing this thread retards
>>336011280
They probably still have the source code for vanilla, it's system integration which will be the hard part. I don't even know if the Nost team can do that but if they can and this is actually happening, they'll probably be hired. Also Nost's source code was shit.
hype, but it's probably nothing
wait for mark/mike/nost meeting
>Blizzard releases legacy servers
>You have to buy Legion to play on them
Clever jews
>>336011395
>Vanilla servers with current models
>Updated armor to not look bad with the new models
>Demons, Naga, and Dragons get their Legion paint coats
Even without that they still got me hooked.
If you look closely the models are clearly modern and the gear is just the heirloom gear. Jesus christ the heights to which you nostcucks will go to make shit up is just ludicrous
>>336011475
>Wait for the Nost meetingThey're having one this weekend!
>>336011541
As a Wowfag who plays daily that is not heirloom gear
>>336011509
>new models
No kill yourself, they look like pure fucking shit.
>>336010727
Why give a shit?
>>336011653
>waaah I hate change
>>336011593
wasn't that "in the next couple of weeks"?
>>336011653
you have the option to disable them, even in current retail
>>336011541
No they're not. They're also the old character models.
But I believe it's just a gif taken from a machinima video from vanilla. They probably didn't find a similar video with modern character models and gear because no one dances in WoW any more.
>>336011712
https://mobile.twitter.com/NostalBegins/status/726049479208529920
Yep. Seems there's just going to be an announcement this weekend. Oh well.
Admittedly I did get my info from
>>336011593
No, they're announcing something this weekend, the meeting isn't set yet. The announcement will probably be when the meeting will be and what it's about.
>crying vocal minority wins again
If Blizzard does this I'll immediately unsubscribe. I will NOT pay a subscription fee just so it can be channeled in stupid dead meme servers that nobody will play on anyways once the initial hype dies down after two weeks. The reason why Nostalrius had any players at all was because these were unloyal moochers who wanted something for free and didn't want to pay. Nobody will pay a cent for the shit that was Vanilla, and the fact that Blizzard now caters in to a vocal minority of pirates and ignores the vast majority of the player base that is against the idea would be a 100% deal breaker to me.
>>336011863
>vocal minority
Enough people signed the petition to fill up half the US retail servers right now
>>336011863
>still playing WoW 11 years later
>If Blizzard does this I'll immediately unsubscribe
No you won't. Lol!
or they were just too lazy to make a version with newer stuff and just used a ten-year old one
>>336011926
YOU CANT BE SERIOUS
There are 3million US SUBs ALONE
There was what 200k petition cucks?
2000,00/3,000,000 =/- 50% senpai lmao
>>336011280
If Blizzard wanted to recreate vanilla servers, even if through some miracle they didn't have the source code and databases for older versions of the server software, they wouldn't have needed Nostalrius devs to do the job. Open source emulation, near identical to Nostalrius on most accounts, has existed a long time and if Blizzard actually wanted legacy servers, they could have made their own MaNGOS fork long ago.
And more realistically, they do have the source code no matter how many bullshit claims they make about it. Of course, if they wanted to integrate legacy servers to current Battle.net for example, it'd take some work (both in terms of the client and the server) and you realistically couldn't use the old code completely as-is (for example, they'd want to fix some exploits and security issues, and the server probably uses libraries that also need to be updated for security or other reasons and they might not be backwards-compatible), but is it REALLY such a big deal? We're probably talking about hundreds of man-hours but considering the available resources and no pressing schedule, no.
So when the fuck is the meeting
>>336012002
wow probbly has less then 3m subs by now lmao
>>336011926
People on Nostalrius forums were literally instructing others about running script bots that made up fake email adresses and names to generate thousands of fake signatures a day. The petition is 100% worthless and I wouldn't be surprised if barely 50k of those signees were actually real individuals. They already ran an illegal pirate server, so why would I trust them in any way whatsoever not to do shady shit again with the petition? They obviously have no moral qualms about fraud or illegality in the first place.
>>336011926
and not even 1% of that will ever pay monthly to play on vanilla servers
the private servers are only popular because its free
if blizzard goes through with pristine servers, they will die out in a few months
>>336012002
There are less than 1 million level 100 characters in the US. The majority of US servers have ~5k level 100s or less. 250k people could fill up 50 of those servers.
>Holy fuck Nostalrius literally saved gaming
>by adding Legacy Servers to World of Warcraft.
OP is delusionally psychopathicly insane.
>>336012070
lick that boot blizzcuck
>>336012126
CITATION WHERE?
ANd dont give me those shitty census sites because those are probed skewed as fuck
>>336012082
>the private servers are only popular because its free
If this was the case then why are private servers of modern versions of the game like cata, mop, wod so unpopular they're not worth running? If it was just the fact that it was free no one would play the "worse" version of the game. 1 million people are willing to play vanilla when it's free, a few thousand at best want to play current WoW when it's free.
You're all idiots, the reason it's vanilla models is because they literally googled "wow dance gif"
>>336012195
>ANd dont give me those shitty census sites because those are probed skewed as fuck
As opposed to what, Blizzard's data? I'm sure they're completely unbiased.
>>336011863
>If Blizzard does this I'll immediately unsubscribe
Sweet
>>336012082
Are you implying that WoW isn't F2P?
>>336010727
WHY ARE THEY WEARING GEAR FROM THE GAME??? Legacy servers confirmed??
>>336012290
At least their numbers arent completed made up like wowcensus is
Let's say Legion, or the next expansion, was going to be the end of WoW. Would you resub to see it off?
>>336012184
dont worry nostard. your very post is a perfect embodiment of how toxic and undesirable the vanilla "community" (if you want to call the ~200 people who keep spamming on every website and forum a "community" lol) is. Should Blizzard cave in to you, it will cause a massive outrage on the forums and they will hopefully reconsider the idea. If they should go through with it after all, they will quickly realize that pandering to a bunch of chinese and brazilian gold farmers at the cost of pissing off their loyal fanbase that has paid all throughout WoD was not a good idea
>you will never play with those people from vanilla ever again
>>336011368
The thread didn't get derail, dumb newfag.
![0c3f523dd8d033c31ea92f222717a207_400x400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5bLL2xw.jpg "0c3f523dd8d033c31ea92f222717a207 400x400[1]")
>>336012423
you need to grow up m8
>>336012454
so....?
>>336011863
>Baseless assumptions and fallacies: the post
Feel free to unsub, the game is better without people like you :^)
>>336012454
because they're out there HAVING A LIFE
DANCE STUDIOS CONFIRMED
>>336011863
Look at him. Look at him and laugh.
>blizzcucks acting as if vanilla servers would be somehow detrimental to them when in reality they're just terrified of the fact that they were wrong
>>336012423
>Literally furious that people enjoy a video game
You can't be serious, pham.
>>336012643
>working from 8 to 6
you gotta eat
>>336011395
They always state the code is gone but it's just the server scripting. All the assets are in the vanilla client which is readily available. If they use nosts scripting or have them finish it its already mostly complete. Some bugs needed fixed but AQ and naxx are the only raids that weren't finished either and AQ was in testing when the server went down so its mostly done.
Does anyone else feel like reading twitter comments is like reading another language? I just don't understand.
>>336012810
And it sounds like such a copout to begin with, what kind of shitty company wasn't using VCS in 2005?
>>336012840
don't talk to me or my wifes son EVER AGAIN
>>336011507
I think everyone expects that. It'll be current expansion + sub to play them.And I'll do it, god damn it
>>336010727
just a reminder of this dumb bitch lol
>>336012675
>"B-But it would take away resources from the retail game!"
>They say as they wallow in over a year of content drought in an expansion that had a single patch that added major content
>>336010727
WE DID IT REDDIT! *tips nostalgia googles*
>>336012872
Blizzard derped their VCS in Cataclysm. That's why Dragon Soul exists.
>>336011690
>make everything look worse because of the pseudo--disney artstyle
>waah why don't you like to eat shit you must hate change waa
Kill yourself blizzdrone.
>>336012840
Meh, I'll keep playing on private servers.
Also what the hell does this have to do with my post?
+10 rupees
>>336012929
is she a feminist? I feel like she is by looking at her.
she should prob an hero
>>336012943
>These people I disagree with are part of this other group I don't like!
Grow up, sport.
>>336012810
Everyone keeps old versions of code. You'd be completely stupid not to.
>>336010727
We can go back?
>>336013060
>You'd be completely stupid not to.
This IS blizzard we're talking about here
>>336012936
Blizzard should stop any development of other games and just pamper retail players.
>>336013086
we can never go back
>>336012980
Enjoy your shitty pirate servers while they last. Legion is on the horizon so expect Kronos and whatever crap you play on to be shut down too while the "blizzcucks" who actually work for a living and aren't poorfags are able to pay for a subscription and enjoy the game you want to play but cant
>>336013060
The code got corrupted
>>336012454
>tfw still keep in contact with friends from vanilla and none of them have thought about wow in years and all have lives and jobs and gfs
>tfw the only one who still cares
>>336012675
The reason wod sux is because these pirate servers are stealing from blizz and they have to waste time shuttin them down when will u learn
>>336013176
Metzen has gone too far this time.
>>336011068
I really hope this is ironic shitposting.
You actually don't want to.
>>336012267
DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>336013210
>He hasn't heard about the launch event in which the player gets corrupted and turned into a demon
>>336012929
>People still make a living making WoW videos.
>Not realizing that it's a sinking ship.
These must be the dumbest people in the universe.
Oh and by the way, the only reason Panser is anywhere close to famous is because she has tits and danced in a skimpy outfit once.
Other than that, she's a talent less hack.
>>336013167
>paying for a subscription in 2016
are you retarded? anyone with half a brain can earn a token in less than 15 days
>>336012929
>fuck mark kern
why is she saying this? half of her twitter is booo hooo people call me a cunt
if she doesn't want to be called names don't say "fuck [name]"
If Nostalrius saved gaming why did Blizzard SHUT IT DOWN rather than treating it with the respect it presumably deserves?
>>336013335
Because Blizzard were apparently ignorant that a lot of fucking people enjoyed Vanilla more than WoD.
>>336013167
Sure man. Enjoy World of Facebook: Burning Crusade editio and don't forget to buy the Collector Edition and a ticket for the newest Warcraft Movie.
>>336013060
>Everyone keeps old versions of code.
No. For years studios in both the east and Japan lost or just tossed out code once a game was released, but this especially the case with Japanese companies.
Examples of eastern MMO doing this lie in Runescape, which had to go through some serious searching for the original game's code to put up the legacy server, and EverQuest 2's legacy servers with the tutorial boat
>>336011863
Please do. Literally every baseless assumption about nost players the post.
>BOOOO HOOO POORFAGS ONLY PLAY CAUSE ITS FREE
Fuck right off with that shit people played nost because there is was no other way to play vanilla. If legacy servers happen i will gladly pay blizzard to play on them.
>>336013330
There's been a large influx of people paying attention to WoW because of this Nost business and she's desperately trying to divert as much of it as possible to herself.
>>336011843
A few weeks ago they said they'd release some of the Nost script code on April 30th, so that's likely the announcement this weekend.
Are the Nost team going to Blizzard NA HQ, or Blizzard EU HQ? I assume it's EU since it's in France so it's really close to them.
Does warmane holds legal rights to wow in Russia? they've been around for years and blizzard didn't defend their ip even once with them.
>>336013369
Implying Blizzard are actually that retarded and aren't shrewd as fuck when it comes to marketing.
>>336013369
Even Blizzard thinks WOD is shit, they abandoned that expansion as soon as Rob Pardo left
They shipped it out in Alpha more or less
>>336013427
>being this fucking stupid
>>336013378
i already have pre-ordered the collectors edition. thank you. I'm gonna have fun playing the game that you are too poor to play but I too wish you the best of luck and have fun... err... doing whatever you're gonna do, lol, because you sure as hell arent going to play wow :)
>>336013427
>Russia
>copyright laws
>>336013392
>You'd have to be stupid not to
>>336013297
Seriously, what are these people going to do for work when WoW dies?
>>336011606
Might is the tanking plate set, so the Orc is heirlooms.
But he's also wrong in that those are definitely not the updated models.
>>336013427
>Russia
>Giving a fuck
you answered your own question m8.
Blizz sent a few of their personal corporate soldiers to warmanes server hosting, and they fucking killed the blizz employees.
>>336010727
vanilla is going to come back for real just around the time i start getting busy from my life finally coming together.
just cuck my life up
>>336011863
>If Blizzard does this I'll immediately unsubscribe. I will NOT pay a subscription fee just so it can be channeled in stupid dead meme servers
But you'll instead pay a sub that gets funneled to other game projects because it definitely didn't contribute to giving WoD any fucking content beyond a barebones release and 1 raid tier patch.
>that nobody will play on anyways once the initial hype dies down after two weeks.
Yeah because that's what happened on Nost with all those raiding guilds and thousands of people with over 40 days /played
>>336013517
There no no heirloom gloves/boots/belts.
>>336013495
>because you sure as hell arent going to play wow
But I'm gonna, or did you think Nostalrius was the only Vanilla server around? Don't forget to tweet your epic post!
>>336012643
>doing stuff you enjoy doing
>not having a life
people in the first year of their jobs are always so funny
>>336013581
same here bro, I'm prepping myself to drop out of school.
Filing for disability welfare right now.
>>336013516
Other than applying for a job at Denny's? Nothing.
Specifically Panser could start cam whoring, she's half way there.
>>336013459
i was being sarcastic, in the old thread there were people still claiming that if blizzard didn't c&d nost they would lose their ip, despite warmane and other servers running from much longer and the ip is still theirs.
>>336013581
>Have serious self control problems
>Vanilla launches in 2004 when I am 14
>It fucks my school up badly, I can't stop playing
>Eventually fix my life, now 26 and getting further in life
>Vanilla comes back
Oh baby, time for round 2
>>336013656
>sitting at home playing wow
>having a life
yeah ok
>>336010727
they better add BC and WotLK servers too or i don't give a fuck
>>336013204
People on private servers playing other expansions don't want to play retail.
Also nice b8
>Instead of playing vanilla for free, like you could all this time, now you have to pay every month for that
>People are excited about it and are worshiping blizzard for that
>>336013773
Truth.
>>336013808
If legacy does eventually happen, I assume it will be vanilla at first, and if that ends up being a huge success similar in level as the Runescape legacy servers, I imagine TBC and WotLK will be added to get more of the legacy bucks.
>>336013516
Move over to HotS or LoL I imagine.
Riot loves hiring cumrags to promote their garbage game and she's the perfect fit.
>>336013814
Thx i just let my extra chromosome do the talking
>>336013808
I prefer BC to Vanilla but I'd like to see progressive servers that would add BC a couple of years after Vanilla launches, I think it'd be better to progress with a Naxx geared 60 you'd invested a lot into rather than starting fresh in BC.
>>336013673
I want to impregnate Panser
>>336012861
I know that feel.
>Activision-Blizzard rereleasing Vanilla WoW and COD4:MW this year
Feels a little sad desperate, and an acknowledgement of how much they've fucked up the franchises
>>336013827
>Instead of playing vanilla for free, like you could all this time, now you have to pay every month for that
And the bonus is I don't have to deal with a bunch of retard devs that can't run a server or code properly, and I won't have to wake up one day to news that my 30 days /played character was just deleted because a C&D, hardware failure or just plain incompetence fucked the server for good.
Sounds good to me.
>>336013827
I could never play seriously and get invested in a private server because of fear that it's unstable / don't know who is running it / shady shit going on behind the scenes with "GMs" and donating to win... plus it just feels like anything done on a private server isn't "canon" or could go away at any time, like what happened to nost
>>336013635
>But you'll instead pay a sub that gets funneled to other game projects
Source? Unless you have a mole at blizzard this is pure conjecture and naval gracing based on speculation and circumstantial evidence
>and thousands of people with over 40 days /played
source? evidence? also Nostalrius has been called out even by other private server teams like Kronos to have faked its player numbers and somebody posted a screenshot of there was a site run by them where you could buy gold. So any numbers given to you by Nostalrius staff might as well be made up.
again, Nostalrius staff has shown that they have no skrupel about illegal activity. so why should we assume that they didn't lie about the player count??
>>336013827
WoW is pretty much F2P now. In my case at least I have enough tokens to last several years.
Also an official Blizzard server will have less bugs and will run better than a private server.
>>336013909
I'd rather just have a vanilla server, then later have a BC server which you can copy your characters to from the vanilla server. That way you get the best of both worlds.
You think you do
>>336013954
at least you can still play cod 4 legally
>>336014020
Yeah, either way I'd be happy. Being able to have the choice to stay in Vanilla would be nice also since we know a lot of people got upset when BC dropped.
>>336010727
>take down popular private server so they can make the exact same server but fill it full of microtransactions
OY VEY BASED BLIZZ
>calling it "Vanilla"
It's Classic, you fucking mongoloids. You know how I can tell 95% of you didn't ACTUALLY have a WoW sub during Classic?
>bring back vanilla so i can try it and pretend to be cool XD
>>336013909
>I prefer BC to Vanilla but I'd like to see progressive servers that would add BC a couple of years after Vanilla launches
Sounds good in theory, terrible idea in practice, it will just cause history to repeat and people want vanilla servers again, it's inevitable, it's how we got to this point we're in now.
A better option is individual servers for each expansion, with a one direction, permanent transfer from an older to a newer.
Finish vanilla/get tired of it/didn't enjoy it as much as you wanted and don't want to abandon your character? You can move to the TBC server, ect. That way people who want vanilla can keep it forever more, people who want to move on can take their character and move.
Although it's Blizzard, that step up to the next expansion would probably cost $25 per character.
>>336014130
Autism
![349e898a119729eaa0c9e3a44a9ed527[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ox6qv1v.jpg "349e898a119729eaa0c9e3a44a9ed527[1]")
>>336013673
>>336013924
>Take me seriously guys!
>I'm a serious content creator!
>>336010727
>blizzard notice vanilla servers a populare
>shut them down knowig it will draw attention
>makes fake debate between staff and famous youtubers/streamers
> makes legacy servers to draw back old players that didnt even Care or want to play shitty privata servers to their own dying game
>>336014130
>I'm an autist
I'm pretty sure people called it "World of Warcraft" back in the day, fucking idiot.
>>336010727
>BLIZZARD LEGACY SERVERS CONFIRMED
>It's 99% certain
kek
>>336014130
Everyone knows what you mean when you say vanilla so it doesn't matter.
Don't act like an idiot.
>>336014130
I've never heard anyone except Blizzard themselves refer to it as classic.
>>336014172
I seriously want to take her
>>336014130
its literally teh whole VC vs DM argument again, only those who were there from the beginning know the truth
>>336014130
Everyone calls it vanilla though. Back in the day it was just called wow.
fuck off
>>336014130
Do you know what Vanilla means you fucking spastic monkey?
>>336014163
Yeah that sounds good, as long as they don't give people the choice of several expansions at once and split the playerbase in a big way. I think giving players the choice to transfer to a BC server a few months after Naxx drops would be great.
>>336014130
vanilla is common term not just used exclusively for wow you autismo
>>336011273
>whole shtick is sticking it to the females
I thought not getting to stick it into the females is why they are so mad in the first place.
>post yfw no matter what they do your old guild will never be together again
>blizzard shuts down fan servers
>so they can host them themselves
literally video game cuckolding.
>>336013495
Is that your only argument that people can't afford retail?
>>336014259
Dire Maul wasn't available at release so Deadmines were actually called DM.
>>336013773
Who the fuck eats burgers and fish sticks together?
>>336014317
>Tfw I know for a fact every single one of my old WoW friend group would resub instantly if Blizz dropped legacy servers
>Mfw reliving the glory days with old bros
>>336014414
Called it VC since my first time through it around Christmas 2004 when my friend bought me the game as my christmas present, so no.
The VC/DM shit was mostly a server thing, different servers called it different things.
>>336014318
stop using words
>>336014473
I know what you mean, my friend.
>>336014445
S-Surf and turf...
Is it time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD4fT8503ck
>>336012929
What went wrong?
I would resub if I could play an undead paladin, and for no other reason. And that's never going to happen so yay
>>336014365
It was the reason why almost everybody played on Nostalrius. If they werent just trying to play for free, then there would be nothing stopping them from just playing on retail, capping on 60 and then forming guilds for classic raids. That way they could have played both the old content and all the other expansions if they wanted. But they didn't do that. Why? because then they would have had to pay. It's not rocket science to figure out
>>336014489
only retards called it VC
you didnt call BRD Thaurissan
>>336010727
sounds good but i'm still going to be pretty embarrassed when the warcraft movie comes out.
>warcraft the movie? hey anon isn't that the game you used to play so much?
it looks cringey as fuck
>>336014540
Isn't that steak and half of a lobster?
Not a burger and fishsticks.
>>336014675
>capping on 60 and then forming guilds for classic raids
The game is completely different to retail even if you do that. Just stop replying, your arguments are so terrible.
>>336014646
The answer is the two visible posters behind her.
>>336014675
> capping on 60 and then forming guilds for classic raids
If you had any clue about what you were talking about you would know just how pointless this is. The game is so broken you can do MC naked with level 1 weapons because all the spells are way overtuned at low levels to make leveling as easy as possible for the neo-WoW audience like yourself.
>>336014675
You can't "cap at 60 and do classic raids". You have as much HP and DPS as a Vanilla level 60 at level 15 now. You can solo half the raids at level 60 on retail. You can solo Kara at 70 too.
>>336014646
>having posters for the 3 worst expansions and nothing else
there's the answer
>>336014489
I think people called Deadmines DM before Dire Maul came out. After it actually came out Dire Maul was more relevant than Deadmines so people started calling it DM too. In the end people found a way to avoid confusion by calling Deadmines VC since Van Cleef is more popular than any of the Dire Maul bosses.
>>336011863
>I will NOT pay a subscription fee just so it can be channeled in stupid dead meme servers that nobody will play on anyways once the initial hype dies down after two weeks
but you're playing on retail
>>336014489
>The VC/DM shit was mostly a server thing, different servers called it different things.
And the servers that weren't populated by retards shiftclick names before sending a whisp.
>>336013998
I wouldn't believe anything coming from Kronos but did you ever actually play nost? It was definitely fucking populated out the ass.
There were rumors of shady dealings with the nost team and gold farmers but it was just rumors there's no proof it ever actually happened.
>>336011863
What I can't understand is why people are against Legacy servers. No-one is going to force you to pay/play on them.
>>336014880
I always saw both referred to as DM but you always said which wing of Dire Maul you were going so you knew. Or you /who'd them and if they were level 20 it was unlikely they were going Dire Maul. Didn't see anyone call it VC until Cataclysm when some servers were merged.
>>336014061
B-but you don't!
>>336014934
>but did you ever actually play nost?
no, because I dont engage in illegal activity.
>>336014675
>Vanilla level 60 = WoD level 60
Way to spot an underage who never played it
>Hey it's International Dance Day
>Do we have anything dancing related to post?
>Yeah this gif we made a few years back
>Alright post it
and nostfags eat this shit up like blizz actually cares
>>336014970
>Stop liking things I don't like!
Is it really that hard to understand? On /v/ of all places?
Why do people even care about legacy servers? The game wasn't good in vanilla. It's not good now either but playing vanilla doesn't magically make it better.
I just hope blizzard allows transfers from nostalrius or something. I literally invested so many days into my warrior. I would kill myself If I have to level a warrior again in vanilla.
Wasn't WoW always a cookie cut piece of shit? It was never an RPG or PVP masterpiece.
>>336010727
This is what delusion looks like
>>336012082
Meanwhile legacy server are whats keeping EQ alive, people still pay 15$ a month to play a 17 years old game.
Some people may only play private because its free but most are because retail is shit.
>>336015067
sounds like a fun game
>>336014970
legacy servers have to be programmed and maintained by people. that costs money. and since the ludicrously small amount of people who'd play on them for more than a few weeks would not be enough to cover the costs, literally 99% of the costs for the legacy servers would have to be taken from the true fans who are playing WoW proper the way it was intended by Blizzard before a bunch of vocal spammers took over the forums.
>>336015082
Original wow was. It's not a cookie cutter if it was the first to get it right
>>336015067
I really hope they don't use the character DB from Nost. I'd like a complete fresh start with none of the exploit bullshit.
>>336014970
People think Legacy servers are gonna slow down the already extremely slow development of retail.
>>336015001
>illegal activity
super illegal activity guys! private servers are serious trouble.
>>336015168
oh wow, what a suprise. nostalrius people are racist and anti-semitic. congratulations blizzard, you've really caught yourself a great community to pander to if you consider legacy servers an option!
>>336014646
I like crazy colored hair. Makes me think of the cyberpunk future that should've happened by now. But a ginger woman dying her hair? That's fucking hairesy.
>>336015221
what development?
WoD had 1 content patch
>>336014675
>If they werent just trying to play for free, then there would be nothing stopping them from just playing on retail, capping on 60 and then forming guilds for classic raids.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ebin
>>336011863
3/10
>>336015267
Holocaust deniers actually statistically have a higher IQ than sheeple
>>336015265
Are you disputing the fact it's copyright infringement?
>>336015265
Piracy is illegal. Private servers are illegal. I know you guys think you are super hackers and that the internet is some kind of lawless wild west zone, but it isn't. laws and intellectual property applies here just as it does in the real world.
Adult people (like the ones who go to work and earn money so that they can afford a wow subscription for example) understand that rules exist for a reason
>>336015303
I wrote "extremely slow development" for a reason.
>>336015385
>Adult people (like the ones who go to work and earn money so that they can afford a wow subscription for example) understand that rules exist for a reason
If that was true HBO Go would not exist.
BLIZZARD IS RUSING ALL OF YOU
THEY WANTED TO PROFIT ON THIS ALL ALONG AND JUST WANTED TO TEST THE FANS COMMITMENT AND HAVE FREE MARKETING BY THE GAMERS THEMSELVES
PLAYED LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE, ALL OF YOUyou want proof? i dont have any, but Blizzard is known for shaby marketing tactics, see Tracer.
>>336015348
[citation needed]
>>336015232
''Grow up''?
Do you have any arguments? Can you refute anything I wrote?
>>336015385
embarrassing
>>336015067
They would never do this... not just gonna launch a new server for their paying fanbase and reward people who illegally played their game by letting them start at 60 geared
>>336015462
Why would I care if they're giving me what I want?
>>336015462
If I get what I've wanted since Cataclysm I don't really care what made it happen.
>>336015458
sounds like something only a person with a low IQ would say to make them self feel better.
>>336013773
> Strawman
>>336015385
jesus christ you are this much of a cuck
not even going to bother looking through my folder for a relevant picture
>>336010727
They don't really have to nerf the graphics for vanilla servers.
>>336015385
You moron, the reason Blizzard comes down on private servers is because IP and copyright laws are fucked up.
If they don't sue, they can lose their IP.
>>336015267
Go fuck yourself, Anti-White. This is a free speech zone. Here, discussion flows freely without fear of repercussions on the designated boards, and through discussion, debate, investigation and research, the truth always comes forth, and the truth is that it's not polish or swedish people who own western media, it's not italian or french people who dominate western finance, it's not russian and scottish women who pushed feminism, IT IS JEWS.
>>336015001
Point proven. You only know about the population from hearing it was "faked" by kronos which was nosts only real competitor whos own population was almost non existant until nost went down.
> talked with a few well renowned wow players from the old days
> they all said they will play on the legacy server from day one
> tfw enough money saved to not work for the rest of my life
> gonna play on legacy server with bros and wife for 16 hours / day.
It's upsetting because I know there's only 1% chance this legacy server thing sticks and at best we will be getting some bullshit servers with everything turned off, but it will still be WoD / Legion.
If it does go through, it's gonna be comfy like nothing else.
>>336015385
what about all the adults that go to work and play both private and retail servers?
my housemate plays a private server
should i call the police?
>>336015462
>PLAYED LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE, ALL OF YOU
Not at all. I don't mind anything you said, I wasn't ''tricked'' into wanting Legacy servers, I've wanted them since Cataclysm came out.
>>336015628
>I see people on 4chan all the time spouting the most vile hatred imaginable
Wow nice anecdotal evidence. Remind me how you seeing people on 4chan being racist equates to everyone in support of legacy servers being racist?
Oh, your post got deleted as I was typing this, bad luck.
bad thread man
legacy servers are a good thing, honestly I don't understand why anyone is complaining. You think it will take away development time from the current game? Blizzard still did one patch for basically 2 years for WOD without legacy servers, adding a new server that requires no content development time is not going to fix that issue, you've got a bigger problem.
Besides, it's important to keep as much of this stuff archived as possible. For the most part old books can still be experienced, same with old movies or plays or whatever else, but games don't have an equivalent, especially multiplayer games like this. It's a part of gaming history. If you're against it, you're an idiot, that's really all there is to it.
>>336015605
Man, you are super retarded.
>>336015628
Okay now I know you're just trolling, carry on
>All these deleted posts
Based mods
>>336015121
>$5 dollars have been deposited into your account
Theres no way these posts are no b8
>yfw you realize vanilla is shit and you take your nostalgiagoggles off.
>>336015401
oh please stop acting like this is some isolated incidence. I see people on 4chan all the time spouting the most vile hatred imaginable, calling Blizzard "Jews" and using the word "Jew" as if it was an insult.
And let's not forget that the term "cuck" (which the word "blizzcuck" that you guys always use is derived from) started as a racist meme on /pol/ to defame White people who dont share their insane neo-nazi racist islamophobic ideas
>>336011863
this is true and the reason why i played nost
>>336015809
Nah, I played nost and it was more fun than WoW had been in years, since WotLK
>>336015809
I guess all the fun I was having was artificial
Thanks for enlightening me, you've changed my opinion. I hate people for wanting vanilla servers now.
>>336015767
If I started taking a picture of every single time the double digit IQ subhumans end up posting a reaction image and saying some variant of: ''You're just retarded'', I'd have a large collection by now.
Fact of the matter is that you can't disprove a single thing I've posted, not a single thing. And you know it. The problem is that you're emotionally attached to your position, despite being unable to rationally justify and defend it, therefore you end up with emotionally charged personal insults against the person completely obliterating your narrow-minded, ignorant, shortsighted and blind worldview.
>>336015820
doubling down? Alright. Enjoy your ban, I guess.
Why do wow's current graphics look so shit, it's 2016 and they have so much money why haven't they made it look decent?
>>336015360
i'm disputing whether i should give a fuck, you enormous faggot
>>336015907
And can YOU prove that jews are the source of all Western worries? You can't, because that is insane.
>>336013302
>tfw you'll never live in the land of freedom and pay half price for tokens
>>336015940
I don't like retail whatsoever but I think the art style itself is pretty great. It's mostly just the ancient engine that limits how good it can look.
>>336015940
The graphics are fine, you have an issue with the aesthetic. It's better, desu. Photo realistic MMOs don't work well, the cartoony graphics make it look better for longer. Same reason Wind Waker still looks gorgeous while Twilight Princess looks like a pile of horse shit.
>>336015493
to imply that there is some massive colaborative effort by such a diverse group of people to promote some vague kind of behaviour that is even more vague.
What is degeneracy exactly? Is it race mixing, gay sex/marriage,coloring your hair, beign promiscous, being violent, being a liar, getting tattos, consuming alcohol or drugs, etc.
Some will say all of this is for degenerates, but some will exclude more then half of these
And what is the end goal of the jew/NWO/aliens? If everything is ruined then they have nothing to conquer, a million of raging niggers won't be willing to ever serve them.
Or is the goal the destruction of the "white men", who are apperently only americans who have german ancestors (lol).
>>336015965
>Post was deleted by the mods?
>Try again!
Keep pushing your luck homo.
>>336015976
>You can't
>because that is insane.
''Because that is insane'' is not an argument that proves that someone can't prove that jews are the primary reason why the west looks like it does today.
And yes I can prove it.
My advice to you is to conduct your own research. But I know you're afraid of the truth, so you won't.
>>336015920
>loses argument
>starts banning me
just when I thought nostards couldnt be more sick
>>336013167
>enjoy the game you want to play but cant
You're not playing the game I want to play though, you're playing a garbage causalized meme version of it
>>336015385
I was paying for a retail sub and playing nost. How does that make you feel?
>>336015940
because then people can't play it on a potato.
>Offer old expansion server for the same monthly cost.
>People don't have to buy the new expansions to play on those.
>People that do have the new expansions can always just take a nostalgia trip through vanilla if they want to.
>Generate infinite money
>>336016049
>My advice to you is to conduct your own research.
I did
I researched for mothns, and came to the conclusion that you are wrong
Google congnitive bias
>>336015809
The balance was shit.
The classes were horrible
The design was bad in many aspects
The specs didn't work
A good portion of people who played classic or still play on privates can confirm this. and yet it's still the most fun you can have in a wow game. Classic just makes it so easy to interact and talk with people and have genuine video game RP and adventures. from lvl 1 to 60 you can have a great time, unlike on the current expansions, where you simply have to plow through lvl 1 to the cap as fast as possible to even start playing the game.
Might be different for some people, it's just personal and anecdotal experience. But i've played since mid classic and on many private servers over the years. Again, the most active and social communities that existed were on classic. Maybe it was just me.
>>336016074
I'm sure you did, because nostards are so well known for honesty :)
You people are fucking delusional
Wanna know why they're vanilla characters? It'll blow your mind
>it's one of the first google results when you search for wow dance gif
>>336016125
>Strawman
>>336015809
People didn't actually enjoyed vanilla, they enjoyed the people they played it with.
>>336016086
I really don't understand the people who are so against it. It just doesn't seem logical, it's a pure win-win situation. It seems to me they're just angry because they've made a bet in the past that there'd never be vanilla servers or something.
>Yfw Blizzard announces the pristine serverkickstarter
>>336016019
>by such a diverse group of people to promote some vague kind of behaviour that is even more vague.
>Diverse group of people
Proof please. They're not diverse at all. They're unified by being an economic elite who pursues an agenda that places them on top of everyone else as the new aristocracy of the world. To achieve this, they need to eliminate homogenity in the most powerful places in the world, i.e Europe. They do this through massimmigration and racemixing, which they promote through entertainment, pop culture, government programs, etc. .
>promote some vague kind of behaviour
What does this even mean? I don't think you know what you're talking about.
>What is degeneracy exactly?
Not important to define, I don't believe I used the word even.
>Is it race mixing, gay sex/marriage,coloring your hair, beign promiscous, being violent, being a liar, getting tattos, consuming alcohol or drugs, etc.
All of these things, except being violent, is bad. Because it tears away at the fabric of society, resulting in chaos and easy takeover by hostile elites, which is what the globalists (primarily jews, but also whites), are trying to do.
>>336015983
>>336013302
>actually grinding for tokens
Turns the game into even more of a job than it already is.
Ran into the same thing with EVE and plex. Playing literally just to get a plex, realized I had no enjoyment from the mindless pointless grind and stopped.
>>336014683
We called it VC after Dire Maul came out you stupid shithead.
Holy Christ you shits are deluded. Blizzdrones and Nostcucks both. This is all textbook PR damage control. Blizzard are too idiotic to see the opportunity, their shareholders won't find it worth the trouble, and the shitters that play retail would lose nothing at legacy servers implementation. It's not happening, though it would be smart to do so. Stop perpetuating this shit, if you want l Gary, play on private servers. And stop being idiots playing on servers based where they will obviously be taken down. I swear, 98% of people getting invested in this shit on either side are borderline retarded and have zero grasp of the situation.
>>336016151
except blizz is hosting nost this weekend for some kind of business meeting. Plus basic marketing principles say "put your best face forward"
If they've got better models, they'd use em.
>>336016105
>I researched for mothns, and came to the conclusion that you are wrong
No you didn't.
>>336016049
When you start that "red pill" rubbish about the truth, its just such a laugh. Honestly, get your head out of /pol/ and Stormfront wikis, go outside, talk to people, breathe some fresh air.
You'll see that your inflated sense of woe is just that, blown out of proportion with your own hot, stuffy basement air.
>>336016171
A lot of people seem concerned with the fact that resources could be allocated to the legacy servers so the progressing expansions lose out on those resources. The problem with that is that they would literally just be resource generating servers whose only resource drain would be maintaining them.
>>336016259
It's not this weekend, there's just some kind of announcement this weekend and the meeting is later.
>>336015385
i'm never ever telling anyone i play a private server again! I could be sent to prison!!
>>336016259
Dude, it's not a business meeting, they LITERALLY said that they're just going to talk about the game
>>336016171
I've alread explained the reason 4 times in this thread why legacy servers are a horrible idea. See >>336015121
>>336015121
>>336015121
>>336016282
>When you start that "red pill" rubbish about the truth, its just such a laugh. Honestly, get your head out of /pol/ and Stormfront wikis, go outside, talk to people, breathe some fresh air.
Translation:
>Haha you're so silly
>Like, ugh, do you even believe that?
>Haha just X and Y, and you'll be more like me
You're showing every single symptom of a brainwashed individual completely and utterly incapable of grasping anything outside of what you've been spoonfed your entire life.
>>336016335
>they LITERALLY said that they're just going to talk about the game
Source?
>>336016339
Boy, your post based completely on your own opinion and no actual numbers sure convinced me.
>>336016364
>You're showing every single symptom of a brainwashed individual completely and utterly incapable of grasping anything outside of what you've been spoonfed your entire life.
Translation:
>Haha, you're so blue pilled
>Totally cucked by the government!
>Just go do your research using this Combat 18 approved textbook, and you'll see!
You're showing every single symptom of a brainwashed individual completely and utterly incapable of grasping anything outside of what you've been spoonfed your entire life.
>>336016339
>Baseless assumptions
There's a reason your post was largely ignored, you stupid fuck.
>>336016383
>One other note - we’ve recently been in contact with some of the folks who operated Nostalrius. They obviously care deeply about the game, and we look forward to more conversations with them in the coming weeks.
Taken from a Damage-Control bluepost with the sole point of saving face.
IT'S NOT
FUCKING
FAAAAAAAAAAAIR
>mfw Nostalrius was an operation to see if there was a serious market for Vanilla/Legacy servers or if it eas all talk
>Nostalrius shut down despite private WoW servers being around forever
>Major outcry by 250k "signatures" to a petition
>Blizz actually responding about a legal action against "pirates" which would normally never ever happen
>Blizz immediately beggining talks with Nostalrius crew
MFW Nost was Blizz all along.
>>336016364
oh let me guess, I'm sure its DA JOOOS who took down your shitty pirate server too, right stormweenie?
>>336011971
Normally I'd agree but WoD was pretty bad. This could actually be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
>>336011653
>tauren detected
>>336016214
what is the blasted end game
the goal
the point to all of this
will they make a throne of gold to sit on, and bark orders at people?
Also if they eliminate all order from society how can they then hope to conquer it? Wheres their physical power?
>>336016504
Nowhere in there do they say anything about the meeting they're going to be having or the subject of their communication. Get some reading comprehension.
>>336010727
>saved gaming
>>336016107
It wasn't fun because of technical shit it was the social interaction of five scrubs working together in shit greens to conquer stuff that took several hours to do. Nost came close but when you know everything you will encounter it sort of falls flat, but it was about as close as you can get to the old feel.
>>336016335
Let me break this down for you moron.
Nost had approximately 150,000 active users. At $15 a month, that equates to 2.25 million dollars that Blizzard could be capturing by putting out a legacy server. At extremely negligible cost. The game already developed. They'd just need to pay a couple people to keep the server up and running.
Blizzard has shareholders. If there's a base two and a quarter million dollars a month on the table (potentially more on an official server IE better market presence and character security), I can guarantee it's a business meeting.
>>336016521
its possible
not the first time i've heard this hypothesis
>>336016556
there is no logic to it. Have you noticed how every who shows his face in support of legacy servers also just so happens to be a white male? Please show me one diverse person who is not a fucking white male supporting Nostalrius. Notice the pattern? Yeah, its not a coincidence, as this thread brilliantly shows
>>336013406
I'd say they played it because it was free. If they charged even 0.01 for turning on an account a solid 99% of the playerbase wouldn't have been there.
What are you going to play if it happens and why is it the rogue master race?
>>336016662
Why does the skin colour of people matter to you? It's 2016, I thought we were past just seeing people for their race/gender.
>>336016556
>what is the blasted end game
Right here
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=004FMp
>>336016608
You do not understand how big enterprises work. Setting up a legacy codebase requires a complete restructuring of their processes. A small team like nostalrius can do it because they're agile, with the sole purpose of running this server. Big companies are much more rigid than that
But I already know that explaining this is pointless, the only time /v/ ever comes in contact with management is when they made a mistake while flipping burgers
>Feel like buying WoD and a month of game time
>Resist the urge on multiple occasions because I know I will just play for a bit and then get bored
>Check mail today
>Free WoD and 7 days have been added to account
Thanks Blizz for rewarding me for not buying your product I guess.
it probably went down like this
>"You think you want it but you don't"
>this what all of Blizzard thinks
>Nostalrius happens
>Nost gets shutdown
>some big nosed executive from Activision comes down and says "OY VEY THIS IS MAKING US LOOK BAD, THE NEXT EXPAC IS COMING SOON, I HOPE YOU DON'T MAKE US LOSE SHEKELS"
>Blizzard then does a complete 360 and is probably going to announce Legacy servers
>>336016608
>At $15 a month, that equates to 2.2
even if you hilariously unrealistic estimations were true, you really think a billion dollar top tier company like Blizzard, known for its quality, is gonna ruin its reputation by putting out a graphically as well as in every other aspect inferior 15 year old product just so that measly change that barely even registers on their balance? lol
>>336016608
> 150k active users
> on a legacy server
That's a number for a private server. Alot of people don't really care for investing time on a private server. Those numbers could very easily be doubled if it was an official server.
Keep that in mind.
>>336016667
And I say Legion will only sell 200 copies and nobody will resub after the first month. I know this because my opinions are facts.This is how retarded you sound
>ITT a Jew defends the acts of Jewish people.
Honestly can't be bothered to figure out the context due to deleted messages but it seems par for the course.
>>336015278
I just want you to know that I laughed at that pun.
>>336010727
Why would they hint or hype this up right before they are releasing a expansion that's now how you sell expansions.
NOOOOOOOOOO
WHY BLIZZARD??? WHY??
FUCK
STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE
PLAY LEGION YOU FUCKING NOSTALGIAFAGS
>he didnt keep getting away with it
>>336016742
it doesnt matter to me, storm weenie. I have white friends who acknowledge that racism and institutional oppression exist and I'm fine with them. I just dont like my subscription money going to a service used by white trailer trash rambling about da jooz on the internet.
>>336011863
Hahahahahahaha do you actually think Blizzard gives a rats ass about 1 mother fucker who cries himself to sleep at night praying to saint mecha jebus that legacy servers won't happen?
>>336016171
People trying to justify their sub and that the game is in such a sorry state. They think it will take resources away when WoW is already on a skeleton crew compared to blizzards other games. Legion is literally going to be more of the same of the current state of the game.
If anything it will generate more money for the current WoW once legacy servers are up it would just print money besides upkeep they don't have to develop new content.
>>336016696
>thinking they won't "balance" them
>>336016696
mage
>>336016696
Some kind of rogue I bet, because i never played on in vanilla and I want to roll face in pvp
>>336016770
>Setting up a legacy codebase requires a complete restructuring of their processes
No it doesn't. You literally plug in a server, create the database, and host it. It's not nearly as complex as you think. I hosted a private server once, it took an hour to set up. Even if you think blizzard is some kind of behemoth who's fingers are too big to hit the keys on the keyboard, they could just hire Nost to get it up and running. There's money to be made, and blizzard is a business. They won't ignore that.
>>336016839
I already mentioned that, but yes, people would be far more willing to play on an official legacy server since they know their characters are safe for the foreseeable future
>>336016748
what is a soul?
it's something thats in every person
except it can't be measured, it can't be observed and it cant be tested for
I wonder if it even exists
here
http://skepdic.com/occam.html
>implying they aren't just shilling Nost on "Pristine Servers" and paying them off so they go away
>>336016780
This.
The topic of legacy servers would have been buried just like LAN had it not reached the mainstream gaming community.
>>336016994
>people will get told to fuck off back to legion if the don't like vanilla
I cant wait
>>336017007
>because i never played on in vanilla
meant I never played rogue in vanilla, dunno if I had a stroke or something
>>336016608
Blizzard doesn't have the source doe for vanilla anymore. They'd have to rebuild it from scratch. They most likely have the design docs for it so it wouldn't be the hardest thing, but it's still a big investment.
And it would be extremely idiotic if they decided to go for an emulator server, like private servers do.
and they can't let the Nost team run the private server with their "blessing", because of copyright issues and the fact that alot of the base code belongs to different people, companies etc that are already kill. So it can only be used by Blizzard.
So the only choice is to build the classic server from scratch. Would that be worth 2.25 million? or even 5.5 million?
>>336016941
>Seriously generalizing people who want Vanilla servers to be the antithesis of your political opninion
You have serious paranoia issues, go see a shrink.
>>336017007
A 20 billion dollar company is not going to ask people to torrent 1.11 and host a reverse engineered server with no battle.net integration etc.
>>336017042
>that delusion
>>336016787
Jagex did it with Runescape and ended up getting back a large portion of their subscription playerbase to the tune of something like 750k subscribers iirc. It was a massive boost to the game and the devs have said that opening oldschool and putting a 9 man dev team on it was one of the best business decisions they ever made. Nowadays oldschool runescape almost always has as many people online as the main game (Although it's important to note that oldschool does have a botting problem absent in the main game, so the real numbers are smaller).
Everquest has also had great success in licensing out a legacy server to a third party that used to be a private server, so Runescape/jagex isn't the only game where it's ended up being a good idea.
>>336011068
Sometimes i give myself the creeps
Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me.
NOOO NOSTKEKS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BTFO NOOO
>>336017089
> doe
code*
>>336017007
>No it doesn't. You literally plug in a server, create the database, and host it. It's not nearly as complex as you think. I hosted a private server once,
hahahahahahaha
this is how /v/ thinks big enterprises operate
jesus fucking christ you literally never had any meaningful position in a company with more than 1000 employees
>>336017173
>implying you did
>>336010727
Does no one remember what Blizzard said recently? Basically
>It is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for us to make vanilla servers
>Instead we will make the "pristine realm" which is basically modern WoW with a shit ton of features that make the game bearable being disabled and no exp boosts
Why are people celebrating? This is NOT vanilla WoW. Not even close.
>>336017221
>>It is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for us to make vanilla servers
>Instead we will make the "pristine realm"
They didn't say that at all. Learn to read.
>>336017135
the difference is that Runescapes target audience is fat white basement dwellers who can invest 20 hours a day into shitty grindy MMOs, while Blizzard has already moved WoW way past that. WoW is an MMO designed to normal people with girlfriends, money, successful lives and educational attainment. Those sorts of people who make up a majority (or at least a relatively larger portion compared to Runescape) of the playerbase can see right through your nostalgia and would quickly realize that vanilla was shit
>>336017221
>It is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for us to make vanilla servers
no it isn't
>>336016608
The vast majority of people who play private vanilla servers are people who don't want to or can't shell out $15 USD a month.
>>336017221
They didn't say it was impossible, just that it was going to be much more difficult than a lot of people made it out to be.
I mained paladin from "vanilla" to WotLK in like 2009.
Are you telling me I have to go back to 5 minute blessings needing to be applied to 40 people and the class being generally fucking terrible?
Can we at least get some of the modern quality of life changes? This nostalgia boner for classic WoW is about as retarded as people wanting FF14 to just be FF11 2.0 which was sort of a terrible fucking game.
Have fun organizing 40 man content, I know most people didn't.
>there are people who don't want legacy servers to happen just because they dont like other people enjoying things that they cant
>people will defend WoD
>people think Legion will be better
>keep moving the goalposts every single day
>>336017359
you can still play legion alone you cuck nobody is forcing you to play vanilla.
>>336017329
[citation needed]
I played nost and I would be more than willing to pay for an official legacy server. As would literally everyone I met that I asked during the couple months I played.
>>336017007
>. I hosted a private server once, it took an hour to set up. Even if you think blizzard is some kind of behemoth who's fingers are too big to hit the keys on the keyboard
You have no idea how much overhead there is to such a process. First of all you need to restructure management before even restructuring the devteam itself.
Just one simple fucking task like like creating a logo for this new kind of server requires dozens of manhours because the new logo has to go through compliance processes
And yes, they can make money with it by allocating some people to it. Point is they can more MORE money by doing other things with those people.
>>336017308
Are you deliberately cramming as much dogshit into each of your posts as possible? If this is bait then 10/10 because you're actually fucking annoying me now.
>>336017359
>we want vanilla servers now!!
>oh but please change this and that
This is why I'm glad that Blizzard will NEVER cave to people like you. Once they give you an inch, you'll take a mile.
>>336017089
I wonder how hard it would be to reverse-engineer a Wrath server into working as a vanilla or BC one?
I mean, sure, you'd have to go through the effort of recreating all the original spells as they were, but if you're recoding from scratch you'd have to do that anyway, whereas if you start with wrath as a base...
-The whole old world still exists and functions much as it's supposed to, with all of the patches it ever recieved. Some minor tweaks would be needed to do things like turn Defias Pillagers elite again, but that's nothing too hard.
-You get modern battle.net integration, because Wrath was when realid was introduced
-All of the old raids sans onyxia still exist. Naxx40 was 'removed' in Wrath but they just removed the entrance portal to it and made the exit portal go to dragonblight instead. The actual Naxx40 map and NPCs weren't completely removed from the game until cataclysm, so all the portals could just be set up again and be good to go. Onyxia would need to be rebuilt if starting from a late version of Wrath where she was replaced, though.
>>336017089
dude
I've heard blizzard lie so many times. I've been playing since the start and they pull some serious bullshit.
you're gobbling up blizzards bullshit like the shit eating cuck you were born to be.
>>>/wowGDforums/
>>336017173
Anon, this is how it is *supposed* to work. This is how it works with the server shit I make. Deployment to an EC2 instance or wherever is entirely automated and scripted and happens at the push of a button.
I'm sorry if your company has idiots that don't know how to deploy properly.
>>336017329
he vast majority of people who want to play Vanilla don't ply private servers.
>>336017308
>wow players
>girlfriends, money, successful lives and educational
come one now mate people who still play wow are either addicted fucks or underage.
>>336017359
>i played vanilla
>but i don't know that paladin's greater buffs last 15 min (long enough for any boss fight) and apply to the entire class
yeah, you sure played vanilla.
>>336010727
i never got to play WoW, is vanilla servers worth it?
>>336017329
The vast majority of paid vanilla servers are illegal and are swiftly shut down.
>>336016608
Im not sure why everyone is basing everything purely on nostalrius numbers like yep thats the ENTIRE vanilla playerbase. I've talked to friends who had no idea the server existed until it shut down who would play vanilla but don't want to play on a private server for that exact reason. I imagine there are alot more people out there like that.
>>336017359
I loved FFXI but I know that I'd never be able to play it as hardcore as I did when I was still in school
>>336013756
Why not get a job where you basically get to play on a laptop all day like me. True technically your not supposed to but no supervisor, no cameras, no prying eyes. Literally be there and call to check in to prove your still alive. #security life
Tbqh, I don't see why people are worried about Legacy taking away from Modern WoW
Modern WoW is dead. Blizzard quite clearly loathes the concept of making new content, as evidenced by the fact that WoD had one raid tier and has had NO new content for over a year, much like the Siege of Orgimmar in MOP before it
When your MMO - your fucking game designed EXCLUSIVELY as a MASSIVELY -MULTIPLAYER- ONLINE GAME, has less frequent updates than Grand Theft Auto online, a FREE TO PLAY GAME, then you've got some serious fucking problems, and Legacy Servers ain't one of them
>>336017456
>somebody disagrees with me
>debunks my arguments in front of everybody reading the thread
>"OMG HE MUST BE A TROLL"
As I already said: Schizophrenics and paranoid conspiracy theorists seem to be a common theme in the pro-legacy community. Of course this doesn't mean that everybody who supports vanilla servers is a racist. But let me put it this way: How many anti-semitic racist pieces of shit does a community need to have before it deserves general shunning?
>>336016662
>>>/tumblr/
>>336017540
It depends on what kind of game you like. Vanilla wow was a pretty tough game that more or less forced you to team up with people to explore/quest, as opposed to the modern wow experience which more or less equates to standing in town and pressing a button to enter the dungeon finder queue
>>336017556
Learn to read
>potentially more on an official server IE better market presence and character security
>>336017616
you can't take away their heroin.
>>336017359
At least blessing people gives you something to do in lower levels other than just hitting seal and judging things.
>blizzard makes legacy servers
>WoD babbies cry on the forums about no achievements, no pokemon, no farmville, no selfies, no flying mounts, no dungeon finder, no welfare epics, etc
>blizzard caves in and changes the servers
It's inevitable.
>>336017540
If you don't know exactly what you're getting into, Vanilla isn't for you.
It's buggy, extremely unbalanced, there are multiple specs that are >literally< useless, raiding is a massive chore, levelling as certain classes takes twice as long as others, PvP ranking system is horrendously retarded, and if you've ever played current WoW, Vanilla WoW is extremely inconvenient and has absolutely no quality of life features what-so-ever.
However, if you've played Vanilla before and know what to expect, it's still tons of fun and a totally different experience than today's WoW.
>>336017546
>swiftly shut down
yeah thats why i played on wowbeez vanilla NA server for like a year and a half.
that's why feenix servers are still around
>>336017465
1. Blizzard may not have the original server source code
2. The original server code most likely does not work with the new battle.net logins or authenticators
3. They're not going to ask people to torrent and use the 1.11 client which has a bunch of technical issues and worse anti-cheat
4. They're not going to release a game that doesn't integrate with battle.net
5. They're not going to use old server software that they've fixed hundreds of exploits and other issues in since
Blizzard's vanilla servers will use the modern client and server software. Modifying those to be able to emulate vanilla is going to take time.
I want vanilla servers as much as the next guy but to think that there aren't higher quality expectations on Blizzard than private server hosts is ridiculous.
>>336017308
>target audience is fat white basement dwellers who can invest 20 hours a day into shitty grindy MMOs
These end up being the best MMOs.
>>336017696
>modernized vanilla WoW
>>336017696
why would WoD babbies cry? they have their own servers to die in
>>336017696
>Blizzard goes against the will of its playerbase and releases a pile of shit
>people complain about the pile of shit
>Blizzard tries to make the pile of shit a little better
>"OMG HOW DARE THEY MUH TRUE VANILLA EXPERIENCE"
nostards will NEVER be satisfied, so trying to pander to them is pointless
>>336017696
If WoD babbies could do shit, they'd be able to actually get new content
Admit it, they're cucks. The biggest cucks. Blizz values literal pirates over them
I bet in Legion the WoD cucks will get an option to watch the pirates play on the Legacy Servers.
Only 39.99, plus tip!
LOL!
>>336010727
That gif is old as fuck thats why.
Its what actually pops up when you google "WoW dancing"
>>336017806
They say they hate vanilla and wont play on legacy servers, but they will.
>>336017768
>These end up being the best MMOs.
Yeah, in the eyes of goobergate losers like you.
>>336017631
You can generally shun it all you fucking want but Blizzard have acknowledged them and are clearly making steps towards "pandering" to these people you hate for no reason.
Suck it up, cunt.
>>336017820
You mean the playerbase that's in the fastest decline it's ever been? Seems to me they've already gone against those guys a few times too many
>people falling for this 'pristine realm' bullshit that's not actually vanilla WoW
>Playing WoW
>Wanting legacy WoW
>2016
Why don't you just play FFXIV instead?
>>336017806
I happened with Runescape. The grand exchange in in old-school now, only due to babbies crying that they couldn't buy all their armour in five minutes.
>>336013998
I'm one of the fags who was spreading rumors, on /vg/ threads, kronos, reddit, and the nost forum.
Player count conspiracy was debunked very very long time ago, if you played there you'd realize it. I made several posts claiming insider info regarding chinese payoffs, even linked a chinese site that sold gold/accounts and claimed it had them talking openly about it on there. The site existed, the conversation did not, and no one here or on reddit bothered to translate.
The only "real" conspiracy was nostcuck's inability or will to do anything substantial about the chinese problem, which kronos is now struggling with as well. There were no payoffs, no pending server payment default, etc. All horseshit and I helped spread it because I was feeling racist vs china.
Do not, I repeat, do NOT believe everything you read in fucking /vg/ threads, weirdo.
Summary: The nostdevs may indeed be huge faggots, they may be the greatest dudes ever, but either way there is no valid information outside of neckbeards like me making shit the fuck up because you guys are stupid and will repeat it.
>>336017969
Heavensward isn't very good
>>336017891
I used to think people hating against Legacy Servers were just trolling, but it's become INCREASINGLY clear that they're actual current WoW subscribers
It's fucking hilarious. Legacy Servers will be implemented and they're going to be locked in their Garris- uh, "Class Halls" all day, blaming the Legacy Servers for no content
It's great. The salt and rage will be fucking DELICIOSO
MUY BUENO! MUY BUENO! LOS BLIZZKEKS SON DELICIOSO!
>>336017969
Because jap designs are retarded.
The armor and weapons make me shutter.
>Voted that I woud pay for legacy servers in every poll i could find
>wrote that i would on Blizzard servers
>viraled the shit out of it on /v/
>won't actually pay for it
>Can't wait for Legacy servers to make a loss for Blizzard
>Can't wait to watch it burn.
>>336017948
People have always goes on a hiatus or temporarily unsubscribed during the last months of a given expansion. Of course you don't know that however because you never actually played any of the old expansions. You're just a bandwagonner trying to be cool by talking about how much better vanilla supposedly was, just like all the other goobergate losers
>>336017868
>they will hate the game but can't stop playing it
I can see the blizzcuck tears.
>>336017969
FF14 is one of the worst MMOs I've ever had the displeasure of playing
>>336017758
>1. Bullshit, you NEVER THROW AWAY CODE. The inventory code alone has remained the same from vanilla to WoD
>2. Only legitimate concern, and is easily fixed.
>3. 1.11 and 1.24 clients are incredibly easy to get ahold of.
>4. See 2
>5. See 1
>>336014646
This is really the same person?
It's time to move on with your life
>>336018064
As opposed to Warcraft designs?
>>336013135
Jagex only by chance had a 2007 backup, everything before that was unrecoverable.
>>336018102
Oh yeah. That really looks like declining playerbases in the vanilla/tbc days.
>>336011593
>It takes place in a courtroom
>>336017758
They don't have the complete source code for vanilla anymore.
>>336018102
This is from before 6.2 was released. It's not "the last months" of the expansion, it's before there was even any major content patch for the expansion.
>>336018180
Yeah
They manage to be even more fucking retarded that WoW designs. Think about that.
>>336017631
>But let me put it this way: How many anti-semitic racist pieces of shit does a community need to have before it deserves general shunning?
You are clearly a really bad troll. How can you even BEGIN to conflate racism and vanilla WoW servers?
The only worth your posts have is in keeping the thread bumped.
>>336018250
DELETE THIS ITS JUST TEMPORARY
>>336015278
>ginger
Browsing the web must be hard for the blind.
>>336012195
>cite your source
>but not that source because i don't agree with it
ok
>>336018250
People just grew out of the game and got tired.
>>336018173
Yeah, the first picture is from her first video or something, and the second one is from the welcome video on her channel.
>>336017329
I played nost because i couldn't pay $15 a month for vanilla. See this argument all the fucking time. I don't want to pay to play WoD blizzard dosent sell the game i want to play. Not sure why thats so difficult to understand.
>>336013998
>Source? Unless you have a mole at blizzard this is pure conjecture and naval gracing based on speculation and circumstantial evidence
not anon, but look at it like this
>wod mass hype
>wod makes shit loads from all server/faction changes at the beginning of the xpac (there was a huge faction swap at the very beginning due to racial/model changes)
>wod has the least content in the games history, literally THE worst expac
>meanwhile, overwatch is in the making
>everyone is talking about how good overwatch is
>yfw a lot of the old WoW guys are working on overwatch
also the intern meme gets more plausible as time goes on
>>336018241
Blizzard had already been a software developer for nearly a decade at that point. If you didn't have some form of version control - proprietary or otherwise - after the first few years, your company needs to collectively commit suicide.
>>336018154
>1. Bullshit, you NEVER THROW AWAY CODE. The inventory code alone has remained the same from vanilla to WoD
I agree actually, which is why I said "may". There has been cases of fuck ups before that resulted in code going missing. The inventory code being unchanged does not mean they have version history dating back all the way there.
>is easily fixed
You don't know that.
>easy to get ahold of
Does not matter, they're still missing a ton of technical improvements that have been made since. I couldn't play on Nost without a major graphical bug that made all ground textures look like shit, that shit wont fly if it's an "official" release.
>>336018385
also forgot to mention HotS as well as over watch
>>336018057
Its fine saying that retail is garbage, you are an absolute imbecile, blinded by nostalgia goggles, never actually played vanilla/bc/wrath, or all three if you think that vanilla was good.
Vanilla was garbage, for a lot of reasons, including but not limited to: piss poor class balance, many specs being utterly useless, extremely retarded honor system that ranked you based on how nolife you were, 40 man raid teams being absolute hell to organize, many abilities being broken or just not working whatsoever, crafting being totally unbalanced, and more.
BC was better but still had MANY of these problems, INCLUDING shit class balance. One of my BIGGEST GRIPES with BC is the fact that they did not give alliance paladins seal of blood, and they did not give horde paladins seal of vengeance. To this day I am salty about that, and mace spec stun spam warriors, and druids that were impossible to CC or kill or lock out nature spells because they never had to actually use a spell with a cast time, and MORE.
In short, early->mid Wrath was the peak of WoW, and if you disagree, you're provably wrong.
I buy every Blizzard game on day one. ME
And this is how they treat me? Like some second hand citizens? Second to mentally ill nostalgia pirates?
This will not do Blizzard. I'm cancelling my subscriptions and burning down all my wow merchandise and custom made Tees.
You just made a huge mistake Blizzard
>>336018250
This.
WoD's steep decline was stunning considering the amount of resubs it obtained. The hype surrounding Legion isn't nearly as big as WoD (possibly for good reason) and Blizz is seeing the writing on the wall. Combined with the movie likely not bringing in new/returning subs in numbers that they were hoping for is the reason they are considering legacy.
It was common sense that they would release legacy servers "eventually" but most thought it would be later in the game's lifecycle. It currently looks like it will be a perk packaged with legion purchase/sub and if I had to guess will arrive a few months after Legion drops.
The resubs from legacyfags will help offset losses - the subs will spike of course with Legion but the spike isn't predicted to be as big this time.
>>336011863
Cool. I'm all for less cancer on WoW :)
You think you do, but you don't.
>>336018469
>piss poor class balance
Am I the only person that thinks this was a good thing? Although I might be thinking about it in a different way.
To my mind, it never made sense that a priest should ever be able to compete with a Warrior in single combat.
>>336018469
Don't bother anon.
What people need to realize is more
-Players get sick of the same game eventually
-There are other MMOs out there drawing players away with different payment models
They could have a ton of good content in Legion and people would still complain.
>>336010727
>google generic WoW gif
>post it on my twitter account
>autists start to throw money at me again
THEY ARE THE GODS OF MARKETING
>>336018643
Shitty strawman
>>336018469
Vanilla private servers have always had the most active communities with the highest levels of social interaction.
This is just anecdotal and personal experience.
Want to add that classic itself had the best social interaction out of any of the expansions, but that can be explained with the game being new and people growing tired with it and leaving eventually.
I don't think i've talked with a single person that loves vanilla and defends its balance, classes or design choices. All of them know it's an abusive bugged mess and yet everyone enjoys it more than any other expansion.
>>336018357
I cried a little. She looks a bit like my first crush in the first pic. Not a model, but cute goddamn.
The transcendence to a rabid SJW gamergurl is mindblowing. Human aposematism, damn.
>disgusting tattoo
>edgy hairstyle
>over applied eyeliner and contacts
>tunnels
If she didn't do it to herself, I would say it's for parody purposes.
>>336018643
well they partially did cause they had to write code
>>336018643
Point me towards anywhere the Nost devs have claimed that they "made vanilla wow"
>>336018634
Yes, you're the only one who thinks that. Every class should have the ability and opportunity to beat every other class given skillful play.
In vanilla, warriors were basically a free HK for any ranged class in the game, meaning over half of them.
Unless that warrior has a healer and/or dispeller. In which case the warrior is completely fucking unstoppable.
This is poor balance.
daily reminder
wasnt shut down by blizz but the poorfag community not stepping up, and the jew nost team
>>336018808
>Every class should have the ability and opportunity to beat every other class given skillful play
The problem is that's impossible to achieve without homogenizing the classes until they're barely any different, which lo and behold is exactly what Blizzard have done chasing the pipedream of "balance" you crave so much.
>>336014868
nah she definitely played tbc/wrath, I remember because she couldn't stop herself from shitting up trade chat on azuremyst
>>336018808
>Every class should have the ability and opportunity to beat every other class given skillful play.
Why? It just leads to every class having the same homogenous shit. Everyone has a way to heal themselves, everyone has a stun, everyone has some kind of gap closer of gap creator, etc
In the real world certain people are good at certain things. There's no reason every class should be equally good at everything.
>>336017969
>clunky awkward movement
>obnoxious spell animations
>has already aged worse graphically than WoW
>10k hours of mandatory cutscenes
What I don't understand is the people screaming against legacy servers like it's the most terrible thing in the world. If you look at their post histories on mmochamp, reddit, or bnet, 90% of the faggots crying the loudest are the exact same sad bitches who endlessly defend LFR, complain nonstop about either no flying in draenor (then about the achievement needed), and more than a few of them regularly post in gamergate threads (STILL).
I have no idea if there is some sort of correlation of if forums are just breeding grounds for pure cancer. Still very curious to me either way.
>check one dude's posts
>literally is railing againt private servers, posting in tired gamergate threads, and literally commenting on cuck pics and black dom pics.
It was way too cliche, I'm not even certain the dude isn't some meta troll beyond my understanding.
>>336011863
> I'll immediately unsubscribe
Please do, I don't want people like you playing with me.
>>336014646
why do they all do the hair and tattoos
>>336018634
I agree with you anon.
There should be that feeling of specialization.
Being a warrior and killing mage felt like you just fucking conquered the world because you know damn well that is your weakness.
It gave each class it's feeling of strengths, as well as the weaknesses.
But a skilled player COULD sometimes beat their weaknesses, making it a big deal.
Gave more life to the game IMO, complete class balance means we should all just get the same skills.
>>336013407
To be fair, Kern did the same thing.
>>336019023
Holy shit all of these points remind me of how shit it was to level in that game. Quit after my first 50 glad to see it hasn't improved.
>>336019001
You don't have to give every class the same tools.
You have to manage the tools each class has in such a way that they don't completely shit on another class with zero chance of them winning.
See: warlocks versus anything.
>>336018921
you know people can see the receipt that got posted on the server rental, right?
right?
I used to post this too, don't copy me you fucking faggot. This is another thing that gets repeated and you fucking nerds never look shit up.
Runescape opened up legacy servers and it was a complete success. Why could WoW pull it off?
>>336018154
>2. Only legitimate concern, and is easily fixed.
Nah, there is a reason why legacy application development is a more specialised job, it ain't easy.
>>336019209
runescape is free to play
>>336019139
I don't doubt that some of his involvement was based on his ego, but he's not the one throwing a shitfit for no reason.
>>336019053
you think blizzcuck is meme but it's real.
>>336018808
Every class shouldn't be able to beat every other class. It's near impossible to balance that in an mmo, unless you strip classes of their identity.
And after saying that, I can name a handful of players from vanilla from each class, that were able to beat practically every other class in wpvp(mainly because of how bad people were back then in pvp, but still). They didn't even have that great of a pve progression.
Don't forget that professions actually mattered and you were able to cover so many weaknesses in your class with unique itemization.
>>336017696
>no pokemon, no farmville, no selfies
>Implying anyone even liked that shit
>>336019252
OSRS released f2p servers years after launch.
>>336019252
07scape servers weren't free to play on release.
>>336017042
Pretty awful conclusion for the Great Detective.
Fuck Vanilla. Where is my TBC server?
Vanilla raids were shit, MC had no interesting fights, BWL only had Vaelastrasz, AQ40 literally had a horde-only boss and C'thun was the only gem (and still is to this day the best bossfight they've ever made), and then Naxx was a massive shitshow with incredible stupidity like the 4 Horsemen requiring 8 warrior tanks all geared with the Naxxramas set to be doable (therefore requiring weeks of grinding and gearing those warriors in order to progress further)
>>336019342
>>336019363
I think you can tell exactly when F2P happened
>>336019253
Nah, he's a big douche.
But it's stilll a big deal to have "ex wow dev" helping the cause, for whatever selfish reasons he may or may not have. it's too bad that his twitter is so fucking unprofessional, but luckily most people (including "journalists") don't wade too far in there.
>>336019470
The graph was trending upwards before f2p, what's your point?
Vanilla will be the last expansion of wow
>>336019437
Good thing only less than 1% of the population raided then.
>>336019538
> last wow expansion
> to kill the last boss we have to activate a zero hour titan device that restarts the universe
> vanilla wow starts again
> there are minor changes made to the story each reset
> the cycle never ends
>>336012926
>Have to buy all the expansions before you can play on legacy servers
>"See! Nobody wants legacy servers, look how little people bought legion!"
>>336019538
>>336019703
Don't they actually have time travel or some shit already, maybe it could happen
>>336019538
Missed opportunity not calling WoD Onslaught. Only MTG fags will get this. :^)
I wonder how many people:
#1 Are actually willing to pay monthly for Vanilla on a consistent basis
#2 Are willing to pay for Vanilla as a separate game, not just a freebie option from current WoW
Probably not too much. Plenty of people pirate in general for muh nostalgia (not just WoW) and really have no interest in paying to play.
>>336019703
well, Blizzard could do a FFXIV and restart the story without destroying the lore this time, hell, make a fucking apocalypse in Legion where we lose against Sargeras and have to restart the world so we can find another solution
but it won't happen
>>336019252
Like 20-30% of the games content is F2P
>>336019437
Sounds like fun, where do I sign up?
Oh wait, turns out that designing content for a single digit percentage of the population who mercilessly poopsocks away to even be capable of doing it isn't very good design.
"Hardcore raiding" is the biggest MMO meme in history.
>>336019863
Nah, I'd pay, as long as it wasn't an additional $15 ontop of the modern subscription. I just wanna play vanilla, and I'd be willing to pay for that. I know a lot of people who would be willing to do so as well.
>>336018643
mcballsack
>>336019538
> wow is a endless cycle
oh god it never ends
>>336010727
You know these armor sets are still obtainable in game right?
>>336019863
>Probably not too much
Based on what? You have no evidence, stop making this point over and over again.
>>336019809
thats when i started playing MTG. Explain.
>>336020074
Thats the whole point there is no evidence Blizzard would actually make any money if made it either but people keep making that point over and over gain.
>>336020187
If Blizzard didn't think they could make money they wouldn't have even acknowledged this situation and they certainly wouldn't be having a meeting with the nost guys/kern soon.
>>336020012
but did you know those old animations wont be usable in legion?
you read that correctly.
In legion, if you choose to use the old/new models in your settings to see the old models, it will give you the old texture but on the new skeleton with all the new animations. it looks retarded.
>>336010727
>play the old game for free
>gets shut down
>play the old game for a monthly fee
MOST JOYOUS OF DAYS
THANK THE GODS
Wow bro someone posted a random gif they found, like hooly shit bro that totally confirms it.
Kill yourselves.
>>336019437
>horde-only boss
Assuming you ever fought that boss, was your guild too stupid to have melee equipped with frost oil?
>>336020137
The Onslaught block was three sets; Onslaught, Legions, Scourge.
>private servers are illegal
>it was because copy right infringement
>not because blizzard is embarassed that their shitty new version of wow is losing players while private servers are becoming more populated at a hilarious rate
>its just because "illegal"
>this is how retail cucks actually think
>>336011863
I know this is 2 hours late but holy fuck
You are such a cuckold
You literally let your wife fuck big black men while you watch
>>336020250
As much as I want legacy server to happen and to think this meeting means that it will, it might just be a PR stunt. To talk things over about the game. At best we can expect pristine realms or something. Legacy servers have a very low chance of happening. Would be somewhat silly to split their team up even more in re-doing the source code, integrating it and keeping the vanilla realms up to date. There's also no guarantee the realms would be stable for a long time with a sustainable amount of people.
And it would be weird to announce and release legacy when Legion is around the corner. Unless they do it in a few years.
I wish I was proven wrong on every single point, because I really want legacy to happen. Just don't want to get my hopes up and be disappointed like with every single thing blizzard announced in the last 10 years or so.
Atleast now it's the best time for it to happen and blizzard will have to give a response to this situation. so in a weeks or two time, we will know.
>>336020365
i mean youre right on the surface, but paying extra for proper population, less bugs, and the assurance that the server wont get shut down out of nowhere is pretty attractive.
nostalrius was fun and all, but having that many people on one server really was troublesome
>mfw people are calling others blizzdrones and blizzcucks
>mfw people are begging to give money to blizzard
youre the true cucks
no...no way...blizzbros...the nostalcucks beat us...
>mfw never played vanilla WoW or any other version
>mfw playing current WoW and enjoying it
Dunno!! It's fun to me
>>336020506
It's mainly because the code that's available from wow to use by private servers is code that belongs to people and companies that do not exist anymore. So you can't change the license and it's stuck on blizzard only. If their servers existed in a "safe" country, they wouldn't have been shutdown.
>Blizzard opens up Legacy realms
>only way to gain access is by clearing mythic HFC
>>336020695
Nost didnt have to be shut down, they couldve just moved their server to another country, but they didnt.
>>336020852
That's the joke
>>336020680
>posts image of worst girl this season
>enjoys wod
like pottery
>>336020695
uhuh
yep
sure
uhuh
hmm...
topg.org/wow-private-servers/country/France/
>>336010727
>Legacy servers are up
>Tidal waves of hype
>Millions of people play
>Two Months later
>Population decreases by 95%
Don't need Far Sight to see the future of this shit.
>>336021043
Just like Nost died after 2 months.
Oh wait.
>>336021128
DELETE THIS POST
WHERE ARE THE CMS?
DELETE THIS FUCKING NOW
>>336021128
Nost was free.
>>336021128
>lost 650k/850k of their userbase
>it was free
>>336018921
>poorfag community
>jew nost team
pick one
>>336021305
According to you millions of people will pay to play Blizzard's legacy server.
>>336021305
It was also unofficial without a major company behind it and without a guarantee that your character/the server wouldn't disappear out of nowhere one day.
>>336021305
>Nost was free
So is Retail and people still pla... oh, nevermind.:^)
shills infiltrating /v/ once again
>>336021316
>>336021314
>>336021305
>>336021043
>>336021424
>retail
>free
except its not, someone is paying blizzard for those tokens you buy
>>336021360
> paying a sub is something that will leave you broke
People have the money. They don't play on retail simply because they don't like the game retail offers. How can it be hard to understand that?
>>336013302
>implying $15 isn't a drop in the bucket
You should've went to university, pham.
>people only play on nost because it's free!
>there are free servers for 6.2 as well
>they have ~1/20th the number of players of nost at best
>>336021305
Unofficial, negative market of being an "illegal private server".
I am not going to live or die on it, but I for one would rather have Pristine servers than Legacy.
I already played Vanilla.
I'd love to play a P2W-free version of current-WoW though, without tokens, looms or cross-realm.
>>336021471
I'm a shill cause why?
>>336013302
> 15 days for a token
You can earn those just spending a minute or two a day by not being a retard.
>>336021594
I might be able to get onboard with that if they removed the dungeon finder and flying mounts
>people getting excited to play the same shit they've played for months, again, with no updates
>>336020807
blizz pls
>>336019878
Close to 5% now.
There's 30ftp quest, 170 member quest.
Ftp land makes up 8.5% of the whole map
Armor goes up to level 90 in p2p,stop at 50 (rune) in f2p
Just saying they abandoned f2p I 2012 and started dishing out 90% members only stuff.
>>336021316
they're not mutually exclusive
>>336021704
>Stop liking what I don't like
>>336010727
>2016
>getting excited over anything blizzard
It's like you want to set yourself up for disappointment
>>336021704
Who needs updates if you never beat the game?
>brb just grabbing R14 real fast ;)
>>336021805
But we're getting excited for 2004 Blizzard my man
>>336021681
The pristine realms wouldn't have LFD, but flying mounts can't be completely removed because they are required for a lot of BC, WotLK and Cataclysm content.
I still think pristine realms will be shit because low levels are still broken by how high the base damage of spells is and how short levels are and the end game content will still be standing in your class hall waiting for your weekly 4 hours of raiding.
Pristine realms with everything retuned to be harder so you could actually stop at 60, 70, 80, etc. and raid could be something, but right now if you stop at 60 you can 5 man the 40 man raids pretty much.
>>336021608
yes plenty of shekels to go around
i hear you can get payed per post these days
>>336021681
I don't think they're going to be able to breed out flying mounts. That'd take way too much work.
>>336021805
This. Even if Blizzard does actually end up doing legacy servers, which they probably won't, they'll find some way to fuck them up for sure.
>>336021863
>implying they won't manage to fuck it up big time anyway
>>336021792
yes they are
if you are saying the community was just a bunch of poorfags, then you are saying that nost legitimately needed money and the players were too greedy to give anything away to support the server
if you say nost were a bunch of jews, then you are saying that they didn't just need money for server costs, they were the greedy fucks who wanted more money and didn't deserve it
pick one fag
>>336021608
you're not fooling anybody
>>336021681
>>336021881
>flying
What they could do, however, was make the flying skill require max level.
I'd advise simply moving it up to max level with every expansion, so that you could buy flying for WoD at level 100, but when Legion launched, you'd be grounded again until 110.
>yfw people actually paid for gold and boosting services on nost
>>336022037
I asked you something, but you can't provide the answer
go away troll
>>336013998
>Source? Unless you have a mole at blizzard this is pure conjecture and naval gracing based on speculation and circumstantial evidence
It isn't speculation, the money they make from WoW gets used for other projects, that is how a business works. You take profits and reallocate them into other projects, if they didn't do this there is no way they could have made Diablo 3? With games like HotS and Overwatch being made, it is hard to think that WoD lacking content is unrelated. And it isn't like Hearthstone takes as much dev time as those games either. Even if it does make money hand over foot it is silly to assume that money stays in Hearthstone development.
>>336022065
you need flying to get around zones in Outland/icecrown
>>336021513
>college meme
Stop.
>>336021989
Yeah you're probably right
>>336022145
Do you though? And if so, how hard could it really be to plop in a few more flight-points?
>>336020556
This.
Theres many other problems nost had Blizz servers would not. Much of it caused by lack of man power and that it was a free private server. Botters/chinese RMT was rampant among many other problems.
>>336022097
your awkward use of our lingo is just making things worse for yourself
>>336022065
I thought that was how the game worked right now. Only difference is once you're max level and get flying for an area you can buy it on your lower level alts, which I guess they could remove.
I might be wrong though.
>>336022145
Not while leveling in Outland, only for level 70 dailies. And you get a loaner mount in Northrend at 78 when you need it that only works in Icecrown/Storm Peaks.
>>336022147
how's your McJob?
>>336022241
Yeah, but what I'm talking is that from now on only max-levels fly at all.
Like, if you've cleared Outland, you can't just buy flying for it. You have to be max-level.
>>336022359
But what if people want to lock their level at 70?
>>336022267
>wagecuck in denial
It's sad.
>>336021360
I don't see how that has anything to do with my point. Nost is free, that could be why it was so popular. Perhaps being backed by a big company will allow more people to know and thus try it out but maybe not. Nobody knows how many people would pay for a vanilla WoW and Nost numbers don't doesn't reflect that.
>>336022436
Then they don't fly.
>>336022510
But then they can't even do TK.
Vanilla wow needs garrisons, put the alliance garrison in elywynn and horde in durotar
>>336022553
Get a summon.
>Single spec, no meetingstones, one auction house per faction, having to pick another flight path every stop, more I can't even think of
>yfw all the nostalgia fags are crying to Blizz for QOL improvements within a week
>>336022607
So you need 3 guys 40 levels above you to do a dungeon for your level?
>>336022510
They could just drop a bridge asset to TK desu
>>336022627
These are not even bad things lmao
>>336022627
Flight paths were changed in 1.10, auction houses were linked in 1.9. You're fucking retarded.
>>336022238
>your awkward use of our lingo
ok troll
>>336021493
No one ever understands that. Blizz shills cant understand why someone would want to not play retail and just cry
>P-poorfag cant afford $15 a month
When in reality its exactly as you said i don't want to play the game offered now.
>>336022671
Or just have Blizzard place down a new taxi-spot.
>NEW BREAD
>>336022975
>>336022975
>>336022975
Enjoy your "Pristine" servers faggots, you'll never get legacy realms of an outdated shitty version of the game.
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