Blizzard is going to meet with the Nostalrius devs.
Any guesses what the announcement might be?
Sjw shit
Probably irrelevant.
>>335941194
How would this be related to SJW shit? Do you even know what this is about?
>>335941106
Honestly they should just hire them to run legacy servers for them. They could probably get them for cheap considering they were doing it for free before they were shutdown.
>post yfw this is an elaborate ruse to lure the frogs to the US to arrest them copyright violations like gaben did with that German kid
>Any guesses what the announcement might be?
An arrest.
They will pay them money to shill for the pristine servers.
>>335941106
This better be a rhetorical question.
>>335941106
>getting invited to Blizzard HQ after lawsuit threats
Possibly dumber than Robb Stark accepting the wedding invitation
>>335941397
They would be the smart and very video game decision.
>>335941482
Wouldn't that literally just destroy any goodwill they may have had?
>>335941836
This, they will probably try to buy them off or get them into some legal trouble somehow.
Blizzard is a slimy company. I hope they bring an attorney just in case.
>>335942451
they can make their own legacy servers
the NOST guys need blizzard way more than blizzard needs them
>trusting a jew like morhaime
>shiggity
>>335942815
I don't really give a shit about that. I'm talking about how much arresting some people for a private server would destroy goodwill.
Like, even a PR genius could not spin that in a favorable way. They're not actually stupid enough to arrest them.
Nobody gives a shit.
MUH NOST GUISE MUH NOST!
>>335943053
fuck off
>>335941780
That's exactly what blizzard would and will do. I feel bad for them.
Probably what valve did when they offered a hacker a job: got him to show up and arrested him.
>>335942806
EVE Gurista pirate playboy bunny t-shirt
fuck I want one of those.
>>335943053
hezdtrfgthfgh
>>335943053
pls
>>335941106
WE DID IT
HAHAHAHA Blizzard is actually retreating and they're going to give them their server back. We'll probably get videos of the devs all gathered around and the Blizz faggots apologizing. I like it. The internet came together and told Blizzard it's not over, now it will be over, but with the customer winning. Based Nostalrius.
>>335941397
I just don't see Blizzard asking people to download an old version of the game and hosting a 3rd party reverse engineered version of their own server without all the technical improvements that have been made to the current game (not just talking about graphics, but stability, connectivity, anti-cheat and load times etc.) not to even mention no battle.net client integration. If there's going to be legacy servers it'd have to be a fork of the current version of the game, I doubt a lot of the stuff can be backported (e.g. they changed their compression scheme at least once since), and in that regard the Nostalrius crew is going to be useless.
>>335943701
You're about to receive an reality check, Anon.
>>335943053
Dammit
>>335943053
FUCK YOU, ANON
Gonna have the Nost devs help them with *pristine* servers that recreate the vanilla gameplay in current expansion content
screencap this post.
>>335941106
Honeypot to arrest them like Valve did to the guy that leaked Half Life 2.
>>335943053
fuck off
>>335943892
There's nothing to arrest them for as they complied with the cease and desist.
>>335943053
Ree
>>335943995
Charges that havent been made public yet. Being faggots in North Carolina, I dunno.
>>335943868
But somebody else posted this before you.
>>335941836
well on the one hand maybe Blizz has Nost become a small sister studio and actually do it. and/or has them make a kickstarter to ensure they are as self-funded as possible, whilst working under license of Blizz
or it'll be how i imagine most "community" settlements end up. like we CS players talk to valve about single map formats behind closed doors. they come out with sealed lips and signed papers, nothing changes, and the whole thing is allowed to mysteriously blow over.
>>335943053
Tbh lads IF I was going to play WoW those "pristine" servers do sound like a major upgrade from the game currently
If they retune a lot of low level content and skills it could be p. legit
>>335941106
>we are new workers at blizzard!
>>335943991
it wasn't a "if you don't post she will kill you" post tho your cat is invalid:^)
There will be progression servers in WoW but it wont be as a result of this and it wont happen for another 3 years or so
Screencap this
Official vanilla servers run by the Nost team. It will be $15 a month to play on them.
>>335941106
It's fucking appalling that this has garnered so much attention that those fags might actually win.
We live in a world where no matter how asinine what you're trying to accomplish is....all you need is some vocal followers and the ability to bitch about what you want endlessly and you'll probably get it. I feel disgusted to live in America right now.
>>335941106
I'm gonna guess a big fat lawsuit. Or legacy servers in exchange for their firstborn children
>>335945167
>people who want to pay for a product whined loud enough that they get to pay for a product
This is America as fuck, dipshit
>>335944327
You can already play on pristine servers by just not using any of those features, and people already do. They play the game with a set of rules stopping at level 60 and not using any of those things. It is still shit, though. You still have to do garrisons and shitty WoD content.
>>335945348
>People who want their free server back whined loud enough that they might get their free server back
Fixed it for you
>>335945167
>French servers
here is your (you)
>>335941106
they're all going to be arrested probably
>>335945167
Holy shit, all of this anger over private servers.
Priceless
>>335945167
>people want to give money to a company for a service and so that company might offer it to them
wew lad, how awful
Public execution of the Blizzcucks
Anyone with an active World of Warcraft Account will be taken to the slaughtering grounds. Family members will not prevent their abduction, because after all, who cares about a Blizzcuck?
Those sensible enough to drop the game before Cata will be allowed to sit on the ground and picnic as each and every Blizzcuck is slowly executed. The Blizzcucks will be given an option for "death swapping", where they can exchange their slow crucifixions for relatively painless beheadings for the low low price of 29.99. However, they'll most likely opt for the deluxe death package, which means they get flayed alive and salted, but their next of kin gets a limited edition hero in Hearthstone.
The Nost Devs will share wine and cheese with the Blizzard Developers, and as the last Blizzcuck squeals his last, usher in a new dawn of MMO RPGs.
>>335945518
>>335945268
>>335943892
This would make my year.
>>335945167
Are you really in such denial that there is some sort of real demand for not-modern WoW?
>>335941482
>>335943516
What the fu-
How is that even the same thing? The german kid took the source code of HL2 and leaked it for everyone to see
>>335945167
>people want thing
>business doesn't provide them with thing
This is the point where they could either
>give the people what they want and make money because they're a fucking business and that's what they do
>shut down everyone else who tries to give people what they want
Only one of these makes any sense. It doesn't matter that people bitch and moan to get it, it's a good move from the perspective of business. They shouldn't have had to.
The problem isn't vocal people getting what they want, it's that they had to be vocal to get it in the first place when they shouldn't have had to.
>>335945536
see >>335945453
Nobody in their right mind is going to pay for this.
>>335945443
You can't really play the game without LFD on normal servers though because people wont join a group where they don't get the bonus rewards that LFD gives. If you actually type LFG in trade now you'll mostly just get whispers with confused people wondering why you would do that.
I agree that the game is still broken though, I leveled a character to 20 a couple of days ago on the F2P shit without heirlooms and could still oneshot everything and outleveled all the quests even without doing dungeons, but that aspect could be fixed with tuning.
>>335943053
What was this post?
>>335941106
>Implying this wasn't blizzards plan all along
>Subs are down and they are no longer pulling in the numbers they used to
>Shut down Nost in what would seem to be a nightmare PR move while working with Nost fags the entire time
>Give Nost makers the ultimatum of shut it down or work with them to introduce people to "pristine" servers
>Now it seems like Blizzard is pulling a huge goodwill move towards fans by humoring them and reintroducing "pristine" servers
>Now all these Nost players are going to pay Blizzard instead of playing for free
>all these idiots thinking they're going to be arrested
/v/ really isn't that intelligent baka
>>335945781
If nobody was going to pay for it they wouldn't be offering it
>>335945167
>I'm disgusted that I live in a country where capitalism works
I'll gladly trade you my citizenship if you want to live in your communist utopia
>>335945785
You can, you just need a group of people to do it with
They're just going to kill them and blizdrones will defend the murder.
>>335945167
>b-but lel fight Blizzard tehy are shitt!!!!
Going to be funny when they do implement legacy servers and it gets less than 100k because most Nost players were from BR,RUS or other places that play it because it was free.
People aren't going to come in droves to pay 15 bucks a month for a game they played 10 years ago in a modern market.
>>335945851
We don't know if they're even offering yet.
I'm still hoping this is an elaborate ruse to arrest those morons or at least shut them up.
>>335945887
I'm just tired of people bitching endlessly about the most senseless shit and winning not because they're right, but because they wont stop bitching.
To be honest maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I'd come back for a pristine server with dungeon finder turned off on top of the other restrictions even if it was current expansion.
Would be nice to play on a server that was 100% a fresh start with no transfers of 100s of thousands of gold fucking the economy from day one. I realize everyone will be 60 within a month, most within 3 days, but at least it will take 10 years to do 10 years worth of inflation to th
>>335941106
>go to blizzard campus
>get picked up by fbi for violating dmca
>>335945985
>because most Nost players were from BR,RUS or other places that play it because it was free.
If this was the case how come none of the private servers of modern versions of the game even come close to Nost in popularity? Surely if they were playing because it was free they'd want to play the latest and "greatest" version?
>>335946162
What DMCA are they violating?
>>335945167
Holy fuck I can't imagine living life being such a fucking child.
The fact that you think there's sides that "win" and "lose" in this situation shows what a fucking troglodyte you are. Noose yourself.
I see this going two ways. Either nost admins get laughed at, told the law to their face and escorted out.Or nost admins get forced to cuck for pristine servers.
I hope it's the latter cause man the shitstorm will be glorious.
Either way I'll be enjoying legion. Don't care about old legacy servers either way cause I won't touch them. And blizzard will just take their low end employees to run them if they do.
>>335946162
They complied with the takedown notice, they aren't violating shit.
>>335943793
you make the nostalrius boys register as a company, declare all their staff and assets including servers, and then buy the whole lot as a division of blizzard with whatever pay and terms you want.
either that or threaten legal action after the C&D
its what nintendo should have done with PM
>>335941106
"We're proud to announce we figured out a quick and dirty way to add a cash shop to the vanilla game. Gamers rejoice, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT"
>>335946215
anti-circumvention rules
>>335946215
>What DMCA
What.
There's only one DMCA
>>335946070
Well according to that Blizz sticky in the forums the blue said that that's something that they could definitely do if people were open to it.
Since it's a lot easier than putting out vanilla servers.
>no heirlooms
>no transfers
>no lfd
>no lfr
>no cross realm zones
I think this is the way to go. I don't see why they don't just release a realm like this and see how it does
I'd rather play that than Vanilla servers
>>335946195
Because it was free numbnuts, attach a fee to it and people will seek out alternatives. Nost was the most stable of them so it because the defacto place to play classic wow. Not that difficult of a concept.
/v/ is such shit, godammit
>>335946253
I'm sorry I grew up in a generation where entitlement complexes weren't embedded into people's brains.
You people are just whining because daddy took away your shiny toy
>>335941948
>I don't want to marry your daughter, I love this bitch over here
>Fuck her or as many bitches as you want on the side. Fuck men, fuck a horse, I literally don't care. Just marry my prettiest inbred daughter with the biggest tits for politics
>Um....no?
Robb was too dumb for words.
>>335946426
My only issue is no heirlooms. You shouldn't have access to your account heirloom tab but you should still be able to earn them in game on this server.
>>335946597
Nah fuck that, leveling is already completely trivial without them.
>>335946426
Real monkey paw situation there, officially endorsed "legacy" servers that just get rid of QoL changes instead of reverting the game back to its roots. You'll still have the fast as shit leveling and quest design along with raids that get lazier each tier. But you will have to yell in trade for groups again.
>>335946597
Heirlooms casualized the game. We want the hardcore as fuck vanilla version for non casuals like ourselves
>>335946547
>asking a company for a service in exchange for money
>whining
>Blizzard announces Nost will be allowed to run
>Nost announces it will be a subscription based server charging $15/mo
Nost complied with the cease and desist letter, they have nothing to fear, you fucking retards.
>>335946763
Nobody in their right mind is going to pay for this. If anyone does it will be too few to justify running it.
>>335946660
>>335946742
Fine but if they take off heirlooms they also need to take off level requirements on gear / enchantments so that us hardcore players can make hardcore twinks. If BGs are still cross realm they can be scaled down but if BGs are not cross realm they are not allowed to be scaled down.
>>335946370
So how is making a private server in a game violating it?
>>335946980
>tfw you think you do but you don't was right all along
>>335946742
>equipped all heirlooms and bought xp potions
>got from level 90 to level 100 in a single 12 hour autism grind
>>335941106
Who gives a fuck
WoW is shit
Private servers are shit
>>335946992
This is why I don't get modern MMO's. Why would you play a game that is so boring that you need to basically cheat your way through it for it to become fun?
If everyone detests the leveling, why not center a game around the end game instead?
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
D E L E T E T H I S
>>335947260
It's fun to see what you can do at low levels with high level gear.
>>335941106
They are going to get slaughtered
Holy fuck that desperation. Blizzard is literally getting BTFO by a bunch of nobody coders who made a private server.
I hope this causes Metzen to kill himself.
>>335946572
It wasn't about the bitches, it wanted to keep Westerling's honor intact since she he deflowered her and might have got her pregnant, and he knew what kind of shit upbringing Jon had being a bastard.
But yeah in the show when it was TRUWUFF it was retarded.
>>335947337
ACTIVISION SENDS THEIR REGARDS
>>335947260
The game is centered around the end game and only the end game which is why it's shit now. Back then you didn't need to raid on the hardest difficulty to have fun with the game, now that's the only even moderately fun part of the game.
>People thinking they will get arrested.
Can somebody tell me why you guys are so against private servers?
Everyone else except /v/ is for them, and it seems like a stupid thing to actively want to prevent. Why do you faggots defend corporations so much?
if there was a server for every expansion, which one would you play on?
>>335941482
Saice senpai
>>335947036
It circumvents security and allows people to play their game without their permission.
as long as i dont have to torrent for a vannila client. i dont mind.
>>335947597
Vanilla and TBC
>>335947596
Really? I've pretty much only seen support for private servers on here.
>>335947596
It's not the defending corporations part, /v/ has to be contrarian about everything so they can maintain their belief that they're better than any other video games and social website.
>it's a trap
man I would laugh my ass off
>>335947036
They violate both the terms of the EULA (which prohibit reverse engineering) and the DMCA (anti-circumvention provisions) in the process of constructing the server. The exact same pattern Blizzard has used time and again to shut down re-implementations of their services.
>>335947626?
How the fuck does a private server allow people to play a game without permission?
I'm a bit curious, did Nostralius or whatever, use "modern" graphics? Or did they go full vanilla with older character models and stuff like that?
>>335947591
>implying they dont have the law on their side
>>335947875
Full vanilla
>>335947789
>Mark and the Nost team gets thrown into Bobby Kotick's shark tank while he laughs like a maniac
>>335947796
So does any of that even matter when fans, the people, want to play on the servers?
The customer always comes first, not the corporation.
>>335947596
I dislike playing on them because there's always kinks, weird bugs, unimplemented scripts or shitty GMs/server community, etc. and eventually they all get shut down and my characters are gone. I don't have anything against the concept itself, just the way it usually works out in practice.
I also want to see progression servers more than just "frozen" servers, but I believe Nostalrius was doing something akin to this, even having plans for a BC realm you could move your characters to?
>>335947591
Is that you, Dmitry Sklyarov?
>>335947949
What a naive child you are
>>335947929
They got the server shut down tho, they can't do anything after that
>>335941106
The announcement is that they have died of asphyxiation
>>335947929
They don't, because Nostalrius already complied with their demands.
>>335948017
What, that I believe in capitalism and that the customer is always right?
>>335947949
>customer
you mean thieves? :^)
>>335941106
I've been with Blizzard for almost 15 years. I don't dare hope that they will do something we actually want.
So probably some new fashion line or some shit nobody gives a fuck about.
>>335947360
It's just a small group of very vocal idiots. Like most businesss, blizzard is looking for a way to make more money.
They'll call the nost guys in and force them to work how blizzard wants. Then sell the pristine servers as legacy. Least amout of work for the most amount of profit.
A little bit of publicity makes sure blizz keeps the attention. It's funny when idiots don't have a basic understanding of business.
Who the fuck would even consider buying Legion now?
>>335947949
The rights-holders come first, and you aren't customers when you are using pirate servers to play their games.
Your feelings do not matter to the Feds.
>>335948310
Most of the people who want to buy legion probably don't give a rat's ass about this.
>>335941106
legal action
>>335947596
because it's fun to see nostalrius babies cry rivers, I really dont care, and no, nobody defends current blizzard, but those faggots were shilling everywhere how great their private serverwasand how the live one is shitseriously just quit the game entirely, dont beg for legacy servers
>>335948281
No, they'll bring them in and show them around and give them something to make them go back and tell everyone that Blizzard is great and everyone should support them by buying the new expansion.
This is the full L4D experience.
>>335948184
>pay for game
>play game
>theft
Well thank god you at least put the shitposting face in your post
>>335948328
Technically, if you still are paying and logging onto the game, you are playing it.
And yes, the customer comes first. Those laws are to protect their product from theft, not for stroking their dicks about how good their game is
>>335941106
>mfw ganked
Every fucking one of these threads there are a few people trying to convince /v/ that this is somehow bad for videogames. See
>>335941194
>>335943204
>>335945167
>>335945453
>>335946547
Like who are you paid by, if you're correct and nobody will pay to play private servers, then blizzard is out a bit of money and you get to call /v/ a bunch of poorfag kids, and if you're wrong a bunch of guys get to have fun. I don't see an agenda to push?
>>335947820
You need Blizzard's permission to play their game, anon. This is how most games work; you don't own the game, you own a license to access it -- a license that comes with conditions and is revoked if you violate them. If you play on an emulated server, then, according to their terms of use, you have violated these conditions and no longer have Blizzard's permission to play their game. The acts of emulating and playing on an emulated server are against Blizzard's Terms of use, so both the Nostalrius developers and players have violated WoW's terms of use.
Private servers like Nostalrius circumvent Blizzard's security they use to control access to their game and allow players to access their game content without their permission. This is a criminal act under the DMCA regardless of whether or not there is any copyright infringment involved.
And on top of that, there IS copyright infringement involved. The terms of use also state that violation of the license limitations is regarded as copyright infringement. This means that both the private server devs and players have committed copyright infringement. This doesn't sound like it would be legally justifiable (since terms of service aren't always recognized in court if they aren't 100% in-line with the law), but they have used this in court before and it worked.
>>335948310
Not everyone is a nostcuck
>>335948605
No, those laws are there to create an iron-gripped monopoly over their intellectual property that they can use to maximize their profits.
The DMCA is a dumpster fire and everyone that voted for it should be shot into space. Every jury that has ever agreed that provisions of an EULA should supersede the right to reverse engineer should also be launched into the vacuum.
>>335942815
t.TotalbisCuck
Can you form your own opinions? Just once?
>>335948829
I'm just sick of people getting their way solely by whining about it.
No work, no sacrifice, just entitled bitching. It's become the way of the world lately and it's tiring to see it work.
>>335948886
>you don't own the game you bought
>americans getting cucked by corporations this hard
>>335948494
I can see that happneing as well. It's a trap for the nost admins no matter how you look at it.
>>335948972
>No, those laws are there to create an iron-gripped monopoly over their intellectual property that they can use to maximize their profits.
That sounds a lot like when the FineBros tried to copyright the concept of reacting.
So really, you just made me sympathize with Nost even more
>>335949120
Everyone who fucking plays any mmo in any country is under this same set of rules.
Or are you one of those idiots who skips the EULA and then whines when rules you were too lazy to read come bite you in the ass?
>>335946572
Reminder that book Robb married out of honour. TV Robb marred for (inexplicable and rushed) love.
Reminder the TV show is shit.
>>335948886
Wew lad, you really sound like a corperate drone.
Can't wait for Nost to get their shit back and you cry to /v/ about "m-muh laws" and "m-muh itelecshual protertee". The customer is always right
>>335949105
So what would be a better strategy for getting blizzard to sell Vanilla again?
>>335949105
How exactly would people "sacrifice" themselves for this? And there's been plenty of work put into private servers.
You can't spell Blizzard without Lizard
I love drinking Nostalrius tears, get fucked
>>335948973
DELETE THIS
>>335948886
>developers cannot change their EULA to fit consumers
Oh wow, I don't think /v/ knows how capitalism works
They are going to take his clothes and shoes like in that Fox in Space animation and take em to the CEO of Blizzard like they did with andross.
>>335949254
EULAs are not above the law. So no, people aren't playing by the same rules. E.g. Steam's EULA contradicted Australian laws about refunds which is why we now have refunds and Valve got BTFO in court.
>>335945985
I'd be interested in trying vanilla WoW since I never played it but I heard how it went to shit after Cataclysm.
>>335949341
>states the law
>gets called a drone
It's sad you can't even understand basic business. The customer is always right is a saying and nothing more. All business's protect their own rights first and then server the customer second.
If nost gets anythign back it will be because blizzard is getting money for it due to selling nost a licence.
>>335942343
This, thus it will never happen.
>>335949105
Care to know how I know you're an entitled brat who had his car/apartment/job handled to him?
>>335946791
I would be totally fine with this provided they got a bigger, better team to really get the server up to speed and minimize bugs
>>335949775
>paying for a game you already bought
>>335949341
I've played on private servers more often than real ones, I'm just explaining the situation. Most games have terms like those, but 99 times out of 100 they're unenforceable, or the company doesn't even care to enforce them. Blizzard's one of the few that have actually done so.
>>335941106
Assassination.
>>335949660
But its not a law though, its a license agreement.
If the community tells you to fix your stupid EULA, then you should fix it.
A corporation is not an entity with feelings, its purpose is to make money and people happy. When big people like Jontron, Boogie, and TB are telling you to do something, you fucking do it. Its how capitalism works.
>>335949879
>Blizzard's one of the few that have actually done so.
Then looks like Blizzard needs to get on track with every corporation on PC. They don't deserve respect for denying rights that others allow
>>335949753
I work 10 hour shifts and am still paying off my car, try harder.
>>335949105
How is running a large server, reverse-engineering blizzard shit, and facing the risk of various legal threats, all for free, not literally work AND sacrifice?
The only entitled bitch here is you.
>>335949879
Your version of "just explaining the situation" is shilling. People get paid for that anon, don't do it for free
>>335949879
>sell people product without agreeing to terms
>force people to agree to terms to use product they bought
>can't return product for refund
america
>>335950073
You just confirmed you had literally everything handed to you.
>>335950076
They did something illegal, got torn down, and are whining because they feel like they're the victims.
>>335949845
Spotted the poorfag
>>335950073
So you don't have an answer for >>335949347?
>>335949105
>waah you're entitled
No motherfucker, in this system, you make people happy for money. If people aren't happy, then you don't get money.
The only one here entitled, is you for thinking a corporation deserves to isolate itself from the others.
>>335950192
Your entitlement complex is so large that if it physically manifested it would cause the moon and the sun to collide with the Earth.
They are gonna give them life time subscription to WoW for being such good fans
>>335950192
So they did sacrifice something.
>>335950202
>I pay to eat shit because I can afford it
>>335949120
>>335949528
The only countries that don't share copyright treaties with the US are third world shitholes like Ethiopia and Iran. You don't own the game you bought. You own the medium the data is stored on, such as your HDD or CD and nothing else.
>>335948474
Nost threads were an extreme rarity and if I cared enough I could probably count them all up by looking through the archives. Even then most of the threads were about nostalgia and old stories rather than sharing what happened on private servers.
Now not a day goes by without a HAHA NOST KEKS shitthread. Not that you care, given you're doing your part in shitting this board up.
>>335947596
Because /v/ is not a single individual and each individual has their own opinion, which in most places they cannot share without being either censored or drowned out in the vocal minorities general consensus
>>335950183
k
>>335950264
There isn't one. It's a dead game that's come and gone.
>>335949775
>vanilla experience
>bigger tech team to deal with bugs and server efficiency
Pick one.
It would be funny if Blizzard actually hired these guys and Valve ended up being the only ones who tricked someone into a fake interview just to arrest them.
Like the tables had turned.
I think people would take the nostalrius team more seriously if they weren't giant cry babies whos fans actively harass blizzard and the community
>>335950127
>never says one single thing in favor of what Blizzard did
>only states the law
>gets called a corporate shill
>>335950192
But Blizzard isn't entitled to not being friendly towards their customers. If you can't make your source of money happy, then you arent entitled to fucking money.
>>335950432
Of course there is an answer to "How can you get a corporation to consider an idea?" and the answer is what you refer to a "bitching", you idiot. What you think about vanilla is irrelevant to the question asked.
>>335949845
you are paying for access to the server anon, you can always make your own private real and play it alone like an autist, since you're at it buy DA: Inquisition, its a great singleplayer mmo :^)
>>335949434
They can change, but that's how they are right now
>>335950432
>There isn't one. It's a dead game that's come and gone.
Kek and there we go.
>you faggots nobody will ever buy this
>y-y-you're just entitled
>Vanilla is dead you can't ask for it back! Despite the ragtag group of frogs who worked for free to make an extremely good clone
I really want to know what your agenda is
>>335950575
Then you should at lest acknowledge the fact that people are allowed to be pissed at the 1/10th of entitled, power-hungry corporate pigs
>>335945781
Nobody in their right mind still follows WoW.
>>335941106
Nost's devs' heads on a pike near the blizzard HQ.
>>335950575
The law serves the corporation, not the consumer. You're getting tricked into believing that corporate law is inherently moral because its the law
>>335950779
What about their left mind?
>>335950692
And people are allowed to tell them to fucking change their EULA and not complain.
I don't get what is so hard about changing a EULA, and why you are so against it.
>>335950545
>Valve ended up being the only ones who tricked someone into a fake interview just to arrest them.
Did that happen? Source?
>>335950823
The law serves both, Anon.
>>335950547
(You)
Okay, for real now, how hard of a Blizzdrone do you have to be to be against vanilla servers?
>>335950985
Nice to see you can't prove me wrong.
>>335950579
You're not entitled to being treated with friendliness. It's the norm/expectation, sure, but it's not technically a requirement. They're fully entitled to treat their customers however they want, not that they should. Consider those restaurants where the waiters insult you. I don't understand why someone would want to go therejust like I don't understand why anyone would give blizzard money, but they stay in business like that.
>>335950073
Wow!
You have to work and have car payments!
You sacrifice so much!
Do you want someone to just acknowledge you're doing something any regular person does for years upon years you needy bitch?
>>335951040
I'm going to toss you a (you), and ask for proofs of your statement
>>335950971
>You need Blizzard's permission to play their game, anon
B-but its for the consumer's own good! They think they want it but they don't!
>>335941106
Considering the level of logic and wisdom behind Blizzard decisions lately, they're going to publicly execute them to get back in their fans' good graces by showing them there is now literally no other way to play Warcraft except by subscribing to the official version.
>>335951060
because america is the land of cucks
>>335951013
I don't think Blizzard has made a good game since WC 3, and wouldn't mind seeing WoW in all of its forms die.
On a scale of 1 to bobby kotick foot massager, how much of a blizzdrone am I?
>>335951121
I saw this picture of a twitter post by some unknown person that said everyone who supports nostarlius is harassing people on twitter and the forums. I think it was a girl so she knows what she's talking about.
Check mate
>>335950891
Just let Blizz make a Vanilla server, I bet it will fail anyway, probably it will be fully alive for like.. 6 months or 1 year at max and then people will leave because they aren't 15 year old with a lot of free time and they will have no time to grind all the shit.
>>335951040
Obvious shill is obvious.
>>335941482
Valve didn't have anyone fucking arrested.
Valve worked with the FBI on a ruse to offer him a job. He didn't take the bait and remained in Germany.
People who post misinformation are literally worse than shitposters.
>>335941106
We're never going to hear from them again.
We'll get a twitter saying something along the lines of "We've reached an agreement with this honorable and wonderful company and are think you should buy Overwatch!"
They're already dead.
>>335951013
It's not a matter of being against it. It's a matter of 'is it worth the money it takes to make it work'. How easy do you think it would be for Blizzard to pull up the old version of WoW and make it work with their new systems?
>>335950823
I never implied it was inherently moral. All that's relevant to me is that my country is owned by corporations, and willful copyright infringement is a criminal act. I don't want to risk being labelled a criminal for the rest of my life because I wanted to play a video game like it was 10 years ago on the off chance blizzard ever decides to audit Nostalrius' logs and find my IP in there.
This is the a possibility of the shitty reality I live in and it behooves people to be aware of this type of bullshit.
>year xxxx
>steam shuts down
>no one can access their games
>implying anyone own games and you aren't just renting them
>bu-but they promise to release a patch to play offline
no they didn't
I just hope to be alive too see all the shitposting that would cause
>>335951350
you didn't download hl2 source leak and poke around the havok source code like a criminal, right, anon?
>>335951472
Is it your money being wasted to make it work? Do you own Activision stock?
>people acting like EULAs matter
Contract law is primarily reliant on mutual respect, because a lot of what is agreed-upon by private parties is wholly disconnected from what the law actually respects and cares about. EULAs are toilet paper until someone goes to court over them, and they have a poor durability when it comes to consumers challenging their legality. No boilerplate garbage written by a hack attorney for international use is ever going to stand up to the myriad strange challenges you can launch from the various U.S. states and EU nations.
What class/race combo are you gonna roll when the official legacy servers come out?
I'm thinking of making a tauren shaman myself.
>>335941106
Blizzard want to personally hand them the court summons.
>Implying its not just a ruse
The FBI will snatch them up and this will be the last we hear of it.
>>335951620
On what charges?
>>335951582
I'm playing devil's advocate. I'm a Blizzard CEO, you're a programmer. Explain to me in a single paragraph why you think Vanilla servers are worth the time, effort, and manpower.
>>335951620
And why exactly would they invite Mark Kern, who is just one of their ex-employees that made a video, to this FBI operation?
I would laugh pretty hard if everyone involved with Nostalrius was arrested and charged with a massive SLAPP lawsuit, cucking all the other private server owners into shutting down for fear of the same fate.
>>335951612
Fuck you Koume
>>335951730
It would be a good ideological move that would probably make its money back
>>335951521
Steam won't shut down in your lifetime, so why do you care, you fucking retarded doomposter?
>>335951730
Because the person in question thinks the money you make off subs will be more than the cost to develop it. are you retarded?
>>335951592
Blizzard's terms of service say that violating their terms is copyright infringement. They've successfully used this in a court case (MDY vs Blizzard)
>b-but that's just America
A lot of countries share copyright laws. There are several international copyright treaties and whether or not this can be legally used in your country depends on which treaties your country is party to.
>>335951592
Davidson & Associates, doing business as Blizzard Entertainment, Inc.; Vivendi Universal, Inc. v. Tim Jung and Rob Crittenden
FOR FUCKS SAKE, YOU FUCKING RETARDS
THEY WILL NOT GET ARRESTED
THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING THAT WOULD WARRANT AN ARREST
THEY HAVEN'T MAK
DE A PROFIT AND THEY COMPLIED WITH THE CEASE AND DESIST LETTER
NOTHING CAN AND WILL HAPPEN TO THEM
STOP BEING SUCH FUCKING MONGOLOID DOLTS
>>335950710
I just like to hate things
>>335950634
I always dreaded the day that the games someone grew up with would include an MMO. Most nostalgia gogglers can just boot up their SNES/Genesis and get their kicks that way, but since this medium is different you guys have to resort to raising hell and playing the victim to get what you want.
Things change, get over it and move on.
>>335951923
And what makes you think it would be better to invest money from subs into an archaic version of the game instead of using the money to improve other areas?
>>335952049
someone forgot to take their ritalin today
>>335948973
He said something about this? They seem to avoid the topic entirely in the podcasts
>>335951923
But the only proof we have to go on people would play vanilla is a free server. If anything it shows we should make WoW f2p
>>335951809
You know that i exactly what Blizzard is going to do. Make those frogs go all the way to blizzard campus, and slap them with a lawsuit because the frogs were retarded enough to make public claims that they were going to release the server client so everyone could host a server, or possibly move the server to another country.
>Do illegal shit
>get C&D
>stop, but tell them you'll just do it again in another country
>>335946524
all wow versions, vanila, tbc, wotlk, cata, mop are available for free
>>335952186
KOUME YOU'RE NOT FUCKING CUTE
>>335952093
You're literally not even making an argument any more. I guess you're entitled to your opinion but if people want something they have the right to ask for it, and it's usually a good idea for companies that want to make a profit to listen to their customers.
>>335952049
Piracy and fraud is illegal.
Stopping with your illegal conduct does not erase your past crimes.
>>335952125
People like free shit. They'll play shitty free games to fill their time just because it's free.
>>335952093
>get over it and move on
why?
>>335952094
Because the current game is too different from what the target audience says they want. Introducing sweeping changes to current WoW would be so messy and risky that releasing a version of a game which was already finished is easier and more risk averse.
>>335952262
people dont know what they want. They think they do, but they dont.
They constantly beg for pc ports, and when they happen, they never buy them.
>>335952262
He knows that, he's just being a contrarian faggot. Ignore him.
>Any guesses what the announcement might be?
Blizzard shills them "pristine servers" and pays them off to go along with it so the head of this vanilla movement dies.
It's not what I want to happen, but it's what will happen.
>>335952125
Vanilla free servers hit almost 1 million users and would have within the month if they weren't shut down.
Current version free servers are so unpopular people don't even bother running them.
If it was just the fact that it was free, why would people specifically flock to one version of the game? Shouldn't WotLK, Cataclysm, MoP private servers also be popular if people just want to play the game for free? After all, those are the "better" versions of the game since they're newer.
