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Which is the king /v/?
>>335937495
my left nut
>implying I can tell them apart
Is Bloodborne the one with funny hats?
>>335937543
/thread
>>335937495
Bloodborne of course
Who the fuck will pick anything else? A shitter? A memer? Who?
>>335937569
insinuating<
>>335937648
gr8 b8 nigger
bb
>>335937648
this
ds1
des
ds3
bb
ds2
only right order
I have played all of them, and I like Bloodborne the best.
BB > DaS1 > DaS 3 = DeS > DaS 2
>>335937495
In myopinionthe ratings are BB = DeS > Das3 > Das1 > Das2
Ashen One is probably the Strongest.
Followed closely by the Hunter.DAS3 is still shit though
DaS2 > DaS3 > DaS > BB > DeS
all other opinions are memes
>>335938132
That's too ironic for you to even understand
>>335937495
Havent played DaS3 yet...
BB = DaS1 > DeS > Not playing a game > DaS2
Cant wait to play DaS3 will have to wait until June 4th!
>>335937892
>>335937815
DS2 is better than DS3 by a long shot. This insistence that DS3 is mid tier is such a load of shit.
I like BB as much as the next guy but its not the best, DES or DS2 is far better
DaS3>BB>DaS>DS2
Haven't played DeS.
>>335938295
>Not playing a game > DaS2
What turns the people of 4chan into extremists? Is it a successful attempt at trying to get replies?
>>335938584
Eh well I played DaS2 once and never touched it again. meanwhile I have hundreds of hours in all the other games.
Bloodborne.
>>335937495
ghosts n goblins >>> all of them
>>335937495
DeS1>BB>DaS>DaS3>DaS2
Not even a SonyggerSEGAfag. DaS has always had shit lore and atmosphere, and the gameplay has always been shit. At least DeS PvP is more balanced, and BB gameplay is top tier FAST.
>>335937495
Hercules N64
BB > DaS1 = DaS3 > DeS > DaS2.
I just like BB's combat, setting and bosses the best. DaS3 probably has my favourite multiplayer and DaS1 has the best overall world connection.
>>335938442
DS3 is not a good game
>>335938831
It's a good game. Try it again.
I think BB has the best setting, aesthetic, atmosphere, and lore, by a good margin. I vote BB.
>>335937648
a pcuck
so yes, a memer. shitter, too.
>>335937702
what the fuck is wrong with miyazaki anyway
>>335939732
>memes
>calls people memer
DS1=DS3>BB>DeS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS2
This is just my opinion and I respect opinion of everyone else ITT,as long as DS2 is the worst one of course, if you rate it above anything else then kill yourself.
>>335939724
And is has nothing to with it being an exclusive right?
Keep trying to justify your artificially limited PC, moron.
>>335937495
They're all boring, one of the most pathetic fanbases of all time.
>>335940325
I think DS2 isnot as bad as most people make it out to be.Still the worst by a pretty wide margin though.
>>335939426
Please list your arguments, and I will try and do my best to counter them.
BB=DS1>DS3>DeS>DS2
I played through all of them completely besides Dark Souls 2.
In my opinion.
Demon Souls=Dark Souls>Dark Souls 3>Bloodborne>Dark Souls 2
Bloodborne was a good game but I don't see why Sony fanboys hype it up as being something it's not, the aesthetics and design and detail in the world are top notch, but the entire online aspect was complete garbage, especially PvP. Boss fights were ok but I didn't like how floaty everything felt. Also, armor is meaningless and so are builds for the most part.
Not to say that Bloodborne is bad, it's miles better than Dark Souls 2, just enjoyed the others better.
OBJECTIVELY CORRECT RANKING
DAS > BB > DES > DS3 >DS2
>>335937495
For me
DaS1=BB>DaS3>DeS>>>>>DaS2
>>335937495
demon's souls, bar none, because world tendency and item burden.
>>335940756
dark souls 3 and Demon souls are both better than bloodbored
>>335940573I agree that DS2 isn't a bad game, it's still the worst Souls game though.Souls series is still the only series I can thing of where every game is a good game.
das1 > des = bb > das3 > das2 > most games
>>335940807
Alright well that's you.
This is me.
DeS>BB>DS>DS3=DS2
Hopefully the dlc improves dark souls 3.
>>335937495
This motherfucker. Who else?
>>335941063
What's up with memesters trying to act as if Dark Souls 3 is bad? I honestly hope you're baiting. I've even seen fucking idiots trying to say that 2 was better.
>>335941127
I never said it was bad. The others are just better.
dark souls 2 had enough mechanical refinement to be superior to dark souls, despite stagnant enemy designdemons still beats the both of them because of raw creativitydark souls 3's missteps make it very comparable with dark souls 2, but it does beat it out, barelydark souls 2's dlc is better than artorias
>>335940578
He won't anon. He's a shitposter.
>>335937495
Best music: demons souls
Best combat: bloodborne
Best lore: bloodborne
Best setting: bloodbonre
Nicest looking game: bloodborne
Everything else you could possibly think of: bloodborne
Bloodborne is the magnum opus of that series.
>>335940325
this is spot on. i like ds1 and ds3 a lot for different reasons.
ds1 has great lore, geography, etc
ds3 has the better combat, gameplay, etc by a large margin tho
>>335940407
What got you so hot and bothered? I plainly explained why I like the game more. Cosmic horror shenanigans and Cronenberg abortions are much more interesting to me than the frankly uninspired dark fantasy motif of Souls. I'm just not a fan of swords&sorcery; dragons, knights, mages with big pointy hats; any of those setpieces. They're bland and overused.
Now call me a Sonygger.
>>335941291
>Best music: demons souls
HA HA HA HA HA isnt music retard.
>>335940325
Wow this guy is literally me.
>>335940592
>especially PvP
They haven't made a single game so far where PvP isn't a headache. If we judged them all on PvP then the series wouldn't be worth playing.
>>335941291
Agree with this senpai but bb music is better than demon souls music
DaS>>>>>>>BB>DeS>>>>>>DaS2>Das3
I hate fan service, I really do
>>335940856
kirby has also never had a bad game
BB > DaS > DeS > DaS2
still not played DaS3
>>335937495
For me
King's Field 1 (us) = Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 (DLC might push this game significantly, I just don't like how linear the start is) = Dark Souls 2 = Demon's Souls > King's Field AC Bloodborne > King's Field 2 (us)
All dark Fromsoft rpgs are at least good games, except Shadow Tower (psx) (that game is only okay at best) I didn't play Shadow Tower Abyss yet but it looks cool.
>>335941341
He said Demon's Souls not Dark Souls.
>>335941291
>Everything else you could possibly think of: bloodborne
How about variety and freedom? Or does that not matter in Souls games anymore?
>>335941635
You should take your shitty opinion and strangle yourself with it.
>>335938132
(you)
>>335941689
Epic Yarn felt like a bad game due to its forced easy mode.
>>335941715
King's Field is barely even like Dark Souls though.
>>335941332
The setting of bloodborne is not "inspired". It's taken straight out of Lovecraft horror stories, while DS's setting is taken from Berserk.
>>335941689
But anon, all kirby games are shitty casual trash. That's like saying there's never been a bad CoD.
bloodborne > dark souls > demons souls > dark souls 3 > dark souls 2
>>335941689
GTA has never had a bad game either
DaS3>BB>DaS1=DeS>DaS2
This is litearlly the only correct order and I will explain why as I have many times.
DeS has shitty bosses and mostly good areas
DaS1 has okay bosses and fantastic areas until the halfway point
DaS2 is mediocre in every department
BB has mostly good bosses and great areas
DaS3 has mostly great bosses and good areas
You could interchange BB or DaS3 as the first or second best of the series. If you prefer the level design aspect and atmosphere of the series, then BB. If you like the boss fights, like I do, then DaS3.
>inb4 DeS doesn't have shitty bosses
>>335941127
But 2 is better, and Dark Souls 3 is the worst in the series in most gameplay related aspects. The only thing it has on 2 in spades is the general aesthetic, and that's more due to 2 being ugly as sin than anything else.
>>335941914
This tbqhwymf
>>335941975
>Demon's Souls has shitty bosses
>Dark Souls 1 and 3 don't
>>335942057
Nice meme
have a (you), on the house.
DaS is still probably my favorite, though that's mostly because it felt fresh in terms of lore and mechanics when I first played it back in 2011. Everything since has been too familiar to recapture that sense of mystery.
Dark Souls 3 had the best environments and each boss was interesting and cool. Invasions are healthy and fun, it's the best Dark Souls
>>335937495
Best NG+ = Dark Souls 2
Best Covenants = Dark souls 2
I rest my case
>>335942104
Thank you friend, Demon's Souls still has the best bosses in the series overall since it focuses more on presentation and originality than ebin 1v1 standoffs.
>>335941914
Only good post
>>335941635
Holy shit, it's my exact opinion
>>335939426
All Sloulsborne games are good games anon, if it wasn't for (insert your favourite here), you would think that one of the other ones is really great.
>>335942214
DaS2 was pretty bad except for PvP but somehow those two things felt far more complete than they did in the rest of the games.
>>335942348
>DaS3
>originality
O I am laffin
1. Demon's Souls
2. Dark Souls
3. Bloodborne
4. Dark Souls 3
5. Dark Souls 2
anyone who denies is just a tryhard contrarian or maybe even a mad as fuck xboner.
>>335942348
It has 1v1 standoffs, I'll give you that.
>>335942348
You call literal copy pasting for the sake of fan service originality?
demon's souls
Top Tier: DaS1
Good Tier: DaS3
Mid Tier: DeS
Lower Mid Tier: DaS2
No Shield Tier: BB
>>335937495
None of those.
>>335942449
>xboner
>on /v/
you're new is showing
>>335941975
>i will explain why i'm still hyped after 1 month of DaS3
shill
>>335942348
>DaS3
>originality
>>335941901
Holy shit. This is the definition of shit taste.
So far I've played DaS2/3 and BB. Both DaS games seemed to rely too heavily on the get 2 hits in, dodge away cycle for the "harder" boss fights. At least BB bosses felt a bit more varied than that. Anything that doesn't follow that pattern in the DaS games is just a fucking joke to fight, like Wolnir, the fucking tree, deacons, and so on.
DS2
>>335942348
>"Remember Dark Souls 1?"
>originality
>>335942449
>Anyone who disagrees with my shitty opinion is wrong
Fuck off faggot
BB > DaS = DaS3 > DaS2 > DeS
>>335942681
Best one
by far
BB > DaS > DaS2 + SOTFS > DaS3
DeS>DS2/SotFS(same shit)>BB=DS1>DS3
Hopefully the balance patches and DLCs will elevate DS3.I know it won't.
>>335941827
There are plenty of similarities buddy. The only major differences are
-Currency (Gold)
-First Person
-Older slower paced combat
Heck, Shadow Tower even has
-Music only in select areas
-Ability to equip shields to a button that when used slows down stamina regen
-Souls like messages on the ground
-Vague story pieced together by npc interactions
Shadow Tower 1 (while not very good) could easily be labled as the first Demon's Souls. And Shadow Tower is really close to King's Field.
Demon's Souls didn't just appear out of no where.
>>335942527
Definition of a shitter list.
>Last game in a series has fanservice
>people lose their shit over it
If this were any other series it would be fine.
>>335937915
patrician order anon
good job
Ds1>BB>Da3>Ds2>Des
>>335942560
Who are you quoting?
Demon's Souls by far.
Nostalgia apart, it had the best levels, enemies, situations, invasions/invaders/players.
Plus, the formula was new for everyone, it will never feel this fresh again.
Ds3, just threw all the assets and mechanics from previous games into one big mess. It feels empty and uninspired.
DeS > DaS3 > BB > DaS2 > DaS
The one true opinion
>>335942853
You can have throwbacks and still be subtle, fanboy.
>>335942636
you clearly haven't played all of them.
let me guess, just Dark Souls 3 right? lmao bitch
>>335942853
They used the same plot and endings.
>>335942853
I have no problem with fanservice but this shit is forced just like in DS2.
>>335942850
You're downplaying how much of a difference those things make. I know it inspired the Souls games but they play very differently.
>>335942681
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>335943172
There's no fanservice in DS2 but I guess hating everything about it is the cool thing now.
Dark Souls 2 is the Man of Steel of video games.
Most people hate it and think it's shit but you have a handful of autists defending it every day.
>>335937495
I like BB because it's different. And it has the most consistent quality throughout the whole game. No empty areas, no placeholder bosses, no bullshit.
I think DaS 3 is fine (even though I haven't finished it yet, about 2/3 in, I guess), but it's the same old shit we've already seen. They even brought half of the NPCs from the other games. The areas are pretty cool, too bad most of them are connected linearly. The only time I got really excited while playing 3 was when I got to Irithyll.
Looking back at DaS 1 without nostalgia goggles, I have to admit the quality of the game is very uneven, but I still think it's the best traditional Souls experience.
DaS 2 I don't even want to play. I haven't finished SOTFS and the last DLC, because they were so fucking bad. I'm still not sure how they managed to make SOTFS worse than vanilla. Crown of the Sunken King was nice though.
Never played DeS
So, I guess my order is: BB > DaS 1 > DaS 3 > DaS 2.
>>335943025
this guy understands what makes games great
hats off to you, sir
>>335943295
>Hey guys, remember Ornstein?
>>335941914
This, desu.
>>335942681
not bad
>>335943295
>one of the first bosses is literally Ornstein
>Forge Demon a ripoff of Flamelurker
Are you retarded, boy?
>>335942849
You're a fucking retard with shitty opinions.
Nioh>BB>DaS3>DaS1>DaS2>DeS
the truth
>>335938312
Epic b8
How do I get through DeS NG+? Literally everything kills me in two hits and I have 30 vit and using cling ring.
>>335943025
this
>>335941914
besides bloodborne being the first and not the last completely right.
>>335943520
Wow those two minor bosses are huge. They LITERALLY copied DS.
>>335943025
DeS is only the best if it's the first souls game you played. Otherwise it's cripplingly easy.
>>335939108
>At least DeS PvP is more balanced
BB>DeS>DaS1>DaS3>DaS2
i honestly like DaS1 more than DeS but it is unfinished and has several marks of a rushed product. it can't be put higher than a game that is basically complete. (aside from the rumored cut 6th monument)
>"bro DaS2 is so mega bad lol!! that's what everyone else told me"
why is it so bad aside from a few glaring issues like SM?
>"lol fukkin get gud bro omg ur so dum haha epic!"
>>335941914
>>335942037
>>335942292
>>335943431
>>335943720
ITT really shit opinions that no one should ever take seriously
>>335943761
Anon claimed there was no fanservice in DaS2 which is 100% wrong.
At least DaS3 didn't straight up copy/paste bosses.
>>335943295
Did you forget that the 4 great souls and nashandra are descendants from all the major bosses of the previous game?
>>335943761
Wow you are LITERALLY parroting opinions you heard on /v/. Nice job my friend.
DaS2 is the only DS game I've liked enough to bother with NG+ and PvPing after finishing it in.
The others were good but the end-game was meh.
>>335941127
Let the newness wear off.
It's a good game. It's literally nothing special though.
BB is literally just as good and way more interesting than the game as it is. It needs DLC.
>>335943528
Get Miyazaki's cum out of your eyes and you'll realize how your first Souls game wasn't the Citizen Kane of gaming that you once thought it was.
DaS = DaS3 > DaS2 > BB > DeS
>>335937495
DaS1 >= DaS2 > DaS3
I think Dark Souls 1 felt like the freshest game with great environments, atmosphere and bosses, Dark Souls 2 tried to do some stuff different and it didn't always work out but I think the environments, atmosphere and lore matches the original only being let down by the bosses in some cases where they felt half finished or relied heavily on "dude in armour" but I never really found fighting knights boring. Dark Souls 3 was great but I felt like it was repeating the set elements of the series, the poison swamp, top of the wall with dragons breathing fire onto it and underground skeleton land all felt like we've seen these areas before which detracted a little from the other great areas in the game. I do think the bosses are probably the best in the series, and it would be more than worth playing for the bosses alone, but I felt the difficulty curve for them was on backwards, they just got easier and easier for me as the game went on. I also felt that there were a few too many winks to the audience in DS3, we didn't need to go back to Anor Londo or see Andre, it just felt more fan-wanky than the Old Dragonslayer bossfight in DS2 and it was another solid entry in the series, but it just didn't feel like it did enough new and felt like more of a sequel than DS2 was.
I've only played the Dark Souls games, so maybe the other ones are great, and they look like they are, but I can't fully say until I get around to playing them.
>>335944112
>nothing special
Nigga its got some of the best boss fights in the series. The other base games have like a 10/90 good to bad boss ratio and DaS3 has like a solid 50/50. Nameless King, Soul of Cinder and Twin Princes are Fromsoft DLC-tier bossfights.
>>335937495
BB > DaS3 > DeS > DaS > DaS2
I like them all though.
>>335943876
SM, tracking, and wonky hitboxes.
Dark Souls 3 has the two latter, though. People will go BAWWW MUH LORE/ATMOSPHERE/ETC but honestly the zones were all fine in 2, they just were too linear/straight shot and aligned poorly due to Bamco not extending the deadline after Tanimura had to pick up Miyazaki's scraps and make a whole game from the ground up.
I'd rather go through Shrine of Amana than Farron swamp or Irithyll again.
>>335943972
So the sequel is related to the first game and that is somehow pandering? Get over your irrational DS2 hate.
>>335943876
>>335944402
>a few glaring issues like SM?
If you complain about Soul Memory you're either a twink that invades new players or so bad at the game you die and lose souls.
>>335944386
Good taste.
>>335944213
I felt DaS3 more true to the nebulous way time and space works in the Souls universe. People like Patches and things like the abyss continue to appear in the same timelines. Andre is just one of those people that exist in this kingdom.
That's just me though.
>>335944386
Good taste. Personally I prefer DaS3 over BB and DaS over DeS but I still respect you fampai
>>335942681
DaS2>DeS
>>335943957
Well, they copy/pasted areas and an NPC.
>>335944386
>I like them all though.
The only good answer.
>>335944487
i did just fine, i don't care about SM really but it is probably the biggest complaint people have
honestly if From had chose to learn from DaS2 instead of ignore it completely we could've had a great game, not just a decent one
>>335944757
>areas
Literally one area and it was really short
Other than Demon's Souls, which is undeniably the worst one, the rank is up in the air.
I lean towards DaS and BB being tied as first.
SILKY SMOOTH 22 FPS
>>335944213
>>335944582
I feel that the 'flow of time is convoluted in this land' shit is a cop-out excuse for obscure lore and phantoms. Likewise, it applies only to Lordran.
Drangleic was nice. It was also nice seeing a different land 200 years in the future, where everything familiar is but a faint memory. Yet, there are still things that seem familiar. It was a strange kind of feeling. DaS3 just brings everything back for the sake of it and in an incredibly tactless, fanservicey way.
>>335944816
Yeah I can agree with that. DaS2 has some issues but SM isn't one of them.
>>335943186
Someone could very easily say the same thing for Bloodborne and that game is almost always included in these lists. Games in these series through spiritual successors have been making minor changes since the first King's Field. These minor changes lead to Demon's Souls creation and continued past that point. The only reason why people stop the line at Demon's Souls is because that is when the series became popular (and for most people good).
It's like not counting GTA 1&2 in a list of GTA games.
>>335944757
Anor Londo was a really tiny section, and I kind of likedstabbing my wife in the head to become the new heir to flamein Gwyndolin's Tomb
>>335937495
Nioh
Archdragon Peak is literally the best zone in Souls history.
Fuck all you DaS3 haters.
>>335943785
This is how it should be. Only bandwagoners play the sequels first.
>>335944487
I dislike SM because I'm a person who likes to use shit like throwing knives/fire bombs/resins and those cost souls. SM doesn't break the game for me, but it was a minor nuisance. Thankfully DaS2 had actual build variety at lower SLs than 3 does, though.
>>335941332
Wouldn't the extra eyes only show up if you had high insight?
My racking would be BB>DS1>DS3>DS>DS3
>>335945184
shit enemies, shit bosses, and it's an eyesore
I'm more of an Eternal Ring/Shadow Tower/King's Field guy.
>>335945401
>shit bosses
>Nameless King
>shit
>its an eyesore
Shittiest taste in the thread right here.
>>335945018
I'm replaying the game for trophies but I don't look forward to this moment. I didn't see it yet but it sounds edgy and lame to me.
>>335944582
>>335944946
Yeah, I get you can justify having things in the game from previous games through "time is all messed up" but it just doesn't feel as, I don't know, organic (?) as exploring a new area. There is definitely ways of doing fanservice, but I'm not a fan of the "REMEMBER THIS?" style.
It wasn't a deal breaker for the game to me, but it just bugged me.
>>335945545
Nameless is kinda underwhelming visually though.
>>335937915
But it's not an opinion if it's right
>>335937495
BB > DaS1 > DeS > DaS3 > DaS 2 Scholar >>>>>>>> DaS 2I love Dark Souls III, but it's next to nothing without its predecessors. Still best PvP, imo.
>>335945692
kys
HERE ARE MY VALID OPINIONS
BB>>>>>>>>DS3>DS1
DIDNT PLAY THE REST FUCK YOU
>>335941341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7T05Lm9mjw
Mmmm, just listen to that overused choir. Way worse than Dark Souls! Oh wait. You're a retard. Demon's had great music because it was mostly ominous, brooding, and something that was there in the background to add to the atmosphere instead of your generic bombastic choir chanting with a blaring orchestral score to remind you you're THE BIG DAMN FANTASY HERO!
>>335945667
The whole "HEY GUYS REMEMBER THIS?" thing annoys me the most. Siegward, while nice, is literally just Siegmeyer. Hell, Sirris' storyline is basically Siegliend's but at least they actually changed her enough to warrant being a new character.
>>335941896
No not really. It's only loosely based on Lovecraft's stories, otherwise the great ones in Bloodborne would've been a lot worse than what we got. The cosmic horror side of the game is only half of it anyway with the rest being more Bram Stoker. It takes inpsiration from several things and makes something of its own with it. You know, like just about everything ever made in the history of mankind.
>DS's setting is taken from Berserk.
Oh, I should've finished reading your post because now it's just obvious you're baiting.
>>335944859
Isn't smouldering lake just ash lake with an ember filter and a giant crossbow? And the Ornstein bossfight was optional and people still complain about it ITT.
>>335945018
>tfw I forgot to kill Horace before I killed Sulyvahn, so I have to replay the game just to finish that quest
>>335937495
to me it's a tie between DS and BB. I thought about it for a while and I can't pick
BB>DeS>DaS3>DaS2>DaS1
>>335945883
Isn't smouldering lake just ash lake with an ember filter and a giant crossbow?
No. Plus its optional so with your logic it would be fine if it was copy-pasted.
>>335945692
More visually pleasing than any other boss in the game. It's THE cinematic boss.
>>335944213
>faggots falling for the copypasta
>>335945545
>babby king
>good
oh boy another strafe right and hit on the long openings boss
>>335945883
I got to end anri´s questline having killed Sulyvahn before Horace.
It wasn´t that version though.
Truly one of the worst fanbases.
>>335946218
Oh darn you've got me there.
>>335937495
in terms of how good the games objectively are:
das => das3 => bb => des > das2
in terms of how much i enjoyed the games
das2 = das3 > das > des > bb
>>335944114
That's not even a hitbox problem, it's a glitch that carried the attack into lingering into the next bit when the cutscene was skipped, maybe even had dasfix with fps boost glitching going with it.
Talk about fucking reaching.
>>335946507
all thanks to you
>>335946507
Explain.
>>335946657
Why would someone not like BB?
Kings field 3 shitter
>>335946802
Not that anon, but because Post-rom Yharharhar to the ending is a fucking slog. I just wanted it to be over after Rom.
>no poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/10085011
>>335946962
Wow, how edgy.
Heres the real one.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10085031
>>335946062
I don't have a problem with copy-pasted stuff, I liked Anor Londo/dead DS1 demons in the catacombs in DS3 and I didn't mind the Ornstein fight in DS2. It just feels weird to me that people complain about one thing being copy pasted for fanservice, but not the others.
>>335946320
How? Yuria just keeps asking me if I heard about Anri, and I can't find her anywhere.
>>335946802
Variety. Most of the game takes place in Yharnam, every area is littered with random shit, many of the enemies are repeated multiple times throughout the game, only aggressive playstyles are encouraged, Chalice Dungeons are repetitive AND shit, and there aren't many different ways to progress through the game.
>>335944386
>I like them all though.
all good except this part
>>335937495
Have yet to play Demon Souls and Bloodborne, but from the actual Dark Souls series I would say 3 is the best.
DS1 was great. It had good lore, characters, areas, bosses, but thats it. PvP never got fixed so laggy shit as well as gangrape was common.
DS2 was also great, with new lore, good bosses, characters, areas, working covenants and PvP, less lag. Though the lore and characters parts were weaker than the previous game.
DS3 pretty much did everything better except for the covenants and characters. PVP was improved, less laggy now and magic is balanced, so as long as they fix the auto summoning Covenants it could be even better.
Though to be honest Bloodborne seems more like the 3D Castlevania I always wanted, so that might be my favorite once I play it.
>>335939732
Fuck off underage console babby
Ok, it's time we stop pretending this is a good game.
>less enemy variety than Bloodborne
>less bosses than Bloodborne
>shittier bosses than Bloodborne
>awful area designs compared to Bloodborne(Farron's keep, consumed king's garden, Smouldering lake)
>shit combat
>laggy multiplayer
>worse animations and particle effects
>rehashed content out the ass
It's clear the leftover budget from Bloodborne was used to make this game. Now please let's stop pretending it's a good game because it isn't. Bloodborne is a good game, Dark Souls 3 isn't.
>>335946802
you think i didn't like bloodborne?
I liked all the games, but I enjoyed Bloodborne the least. I didn't like the setting, the feel and use of the weapons, the guns or a lot of the bosses. I missed powerstancing, non-range parrying, weight limits, fatrolling, rolling in general, the medieval fantasy setting of souls. I like the designs of weapons and the transformations are a neat idea, but I personally didn't care much for it in terms of playing with it. There's a special place in my heart for a heavy armored knight with a big ass sword, a place that no clothed cunt with a gimmick weapon and a gun that encourages spam and a parry with no risk what so ever can ever replace.
>>335947672
Souls is the perfect 3D adaptation of the Metroidvania style, and BB is the proper 3D Castlevania that Konami never figured out how to make.
>>335947831
i'll provide ya an argument as solid as your own buddy
no.
Bloodborne is the pinnacle of the series. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't played it.
Well DS3 is the only game that can fuck over your save file just by a hacker attacking you.
I'm at Irithyll of the Boreal Valley. This is a great area. Are the rest of the areas as good as this? Are profaned capital, Lothric castle, archdragon peak, and grand archives as good as this?
>>335948126
Also I should be upset about this fact, I have every right to be, yet I feel strangely serene about the situation. Somehow losing a game I played for 10 hours doesn't seem to bother me.
>>335937495
Dark Souls 3
>>335947872
>>335946802
not to forget the lack of a shitton of spells, pyromancies, miracles, dark magic, sorceries, weapon classes, weapon quantity and armor sets weren't all the same.
>>335937495
Slayer of demons would rekt the other fags.
>>335947872
I find that you almost always still have to be close enough to risk getting hit if you want to actually pull off a riposte. The accuracy is wonky from range, and also, they're not attacking unless they think they can hit you.
>>335948381
but bloodborne has a gun dude, he knows what's good
Check metacritic you retard
Bloodborne>DeS=DaS3>DaS(PTDE)>DaS2 SotFS
>>335948417
i prefer parrying with a shield or a dagger, etc. Being up front and throwing an enemy attack to the ground is sweet. having a ranged parry is ass.
>>335948440
Second chance > guns
I haven't played Bloodborne yet, but Dark Souls is almost a perfect game in my opinion.
It's world functions perfectly.
If I could have a dream project actually worked on, it would be several expansions to the first Dark Souls game to widen the world, and just expose more of the canon.
>>335948548
pizza-wheel > big bone looking purple UGS of flipping death incarnate
>>335947995
Yeah since the first time I played Dark Souls it satisfied my Castlevania needs really well.
Just wish the whips had better movesets though.
>>335948045
Dark Souls 3 is the pinnacle of the series. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't played it.
>Walk around the streets of Irithyll in DS3
>Almost completely empty with no detail, big open spaces of nothingness everywhere
>Walk around random optional shortcut path in Bloodborne
>Heavily detailed street, bottles on the ground fall over as you walk by. Random papers and carts scattered around.
It's clear that much more care went into Bloodborne.
ITT everyone thinking their taste is better than the rest
>>335948381
Yeah no doubt, magic was fucking broken in DeS
People complain that it's unfair in DaS/2 but holy shit
>Sharp Magic Ring + Kris Blade + Insanity Catalyst + Old Monk's Turban
>ALL STACKING
On my mage character with this setup I can one-shot Allant on NG+ with a single Firestorm. This isn't even getting into the bullshit that is:
>Second Chance
>Warding
>99 Old Spice
Bloodborne>DaS>DeS>DaS3>DaS2
Nothing wrong with this
PC cucks need not apply,
I'm being serious, it's no secret that you let the fact that Bloodborne is an exclusive cloud your judgement and most of you have played it ( in your dreams ) and like to spread falsehoods about it.
Let me be clear this is not bait,I'm not just saying this to get a rise out of anyone,it's facts.
>>335937495
Bloodborne > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls = Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2 > Witcher 3 > Witcher > Witcher 2
>>335948241
>Lothric castle, archdragon peak, and grand archives
All three areas have so many annoying enemies I could barely look at the scenario, but Irithyll is still the most beautiful, no doubt about it.
Grand Archives is a fuckin mess. Dragon Peak looks cool but it felt shorter. Lothric Castle is huge and looks great but theres enemies every fucking corner.
DeS/DaS superior in worldbuilding, npc's and lore
Das3 is superior in level design, boss design, consistency in quality and combat mechanics
BB is runner up in both categories
DaS2 should be forgotten.
DLC can easily put DaS3 undisputed king in all categories
>>335948743
Bloodborne has two whip weapons, a light and a heavy whip basically, and they're both INCREDIBLY satisfying to wield. Threaded Cane is my series weaponfu.
Beast Cutter is the other one.
>>335949572
Not even close.
BB Combat is the best in the series.
Demon's has the best atmosphere.
DaS may have the best interconnected world purely from a geographical design point but it's nothing without enough zones with good atmosphere to back it up. Not to mention because of they were forced to cut content based on the 360's limitations, the later zones are completely fucking awful.
To me, BB and Demon's each have something that the other games can't surpass. While the three DaS games are damn good on their own but can't claim to be the truly best at anything. Plus Demon's gets some bonus points for being the first in the series.
Can we all just agree that Dark Souls 3 is the best Soulsgame?
Answer some simple questions.
>Did Dark Souls 3 have as piss poor build variety as Bloodborne?
>Was the PVP in Dark Souls 3 as broken as Bloodborne on release? (Memers who still can't parry/hyperarmor smash Estoc/Darksword shitters need not answer this question)
>Was the framerate capped to 30fps like Dark Souls 1 or Bloodborne?
>Did the game receive as large of a dip in quality as Dark Souls 1?
>Did the games bosses suck major donkey dick pre patch like Dark Souls 1 and even Bloodborne?
Let's look at the bosses in Dark Souls 1 (pre DLC)
>Ornstein and Smough
>Errr, "ezmodeparry even for scrubs Gwyn"?
>Sif, maybe?
Dark Souls 3
>CHAMPION
>Qt Brothers
>Cinders
>Abyss Watchers
>Pontiff
>Nameless King
>OCELOTTTTTTTTTTT
>many more (pretty much 90% of the bosses were top notch both in Difficulty, design and lore)
Didn't think so. Demon Souls to me is that game you pick to show that you were "a Souls fan before the series became popular!". It's the die hard contrarian choice, playing Demon Souls after Dark Souls 3 and Dark Souls 1 just shows you how obsolete it is, the gameplay is easy, the game overall feels dated compared to DS3 and DS1 and the bosses were meh tier at best not to mention the mediocre OST (for me personally).
Now before you say "MUH SETTING" for Bloodborne, just acknowledge that setting is purely subjective and something I also agree with, I loved BBs setting but overall, I'm confident in saying DS3 is the best and most complete Souls game straight out of the boss. The series as a whole is excellent (even DS2 to some extent was decent, the people saying it was "shit" only to find over 70+ hours of playtime in their Steam accounts truly strikes me as autism) but Dark Souls 3 is the best.
Fun fact (DSP died more than 100 times in DS3 compared to any other Soulsborne playthrough and he had to summon to beat Nameless King. he died the least in Bloodborne pre DLC).
BB>DeS>DaS2>DaS>DaS3
Objective Facts
>>335950413
>Did Dark Souls 3 have as piss poor build variety as Bloodborne?
Less.
>Was the PVP in Dark Souls 3 as broken as Bloodborne on release? (Memers who still can't parry/hyperarmor smash Estoc/Darksword shitters need not answer this question)
All Souls games have 'broken' PvP and that's a good thing.
>Was the framerate capped to 30fps like Dark Souls 1 or Bloodborne?
No.
>Did the game receive as large of a dip in quality as Dark Souls 1?
No.
>Did the games bosses suck major donkey dick pre patch like Dark Souls 1 and even Bloodborne?
Yes, and so do the early game ones.
Dark Souls 3 has awful combat, it's only better than DS2, and the game totally lacks in mood or atmosphere.
>>335950413
Just because a boss says some meme name during a fight doesn't make it good.
You just stay close to him and swing away and he goes down fast without you even getting hit.
It's a shit boss. Fuck off memer
DeS and DaS2 are fucking tedious as hell to play. DaS3>BB>DaS1>DaS2>DeS
>>335950413
also dsp died more cause it's the only souls game he didnt have to grind off stream for, you moronic fuck
>>335939808
I honestly think he needs to seek some help.
>>335937495
I've played all of them, but for some reason I always come back to Demon's Souls. It might feel primitive compared to the later games, but there's something about it that I love more than the other games. They're all great games regardless. Even DS2.
BB>DaS1>DeS>DaS3>DaS2
>>335950754
>Less.
Objectively false. Enjoy playing as the same trench coat dashing DEX fag everytime in Bloodborne. Meanwhile i'll be rocking everything from DEX Dual Wield builds, to mage builds to STR no shield builds to Greatshield and Archery builds.
>All Souls games have 'broken' PvP and that's a good thing.
No where near as laughably bad as "R1 4 Health" Borne.
>Yes, and so do the early game ones.
Pontiff
Abyss Watchers
Gunydhr
Ocerios
DtragonSlayer Armor
Souls of Cinder
Nameless King
Were shit to you? Glad to know that you had Souls games in general then.
>Dark Souls 3 has awful combat
Combat is the best the combat has been
>no tryhard poise faggots forcing you to exploit toggle escapes
>no backstab fishing faggots
It's great, both in PVP and PVE with most builds feeling viable. Compared to "R1 to win" Bloodborne, it's a god send.
>inb4 you say that Dark Souls 3 is "R1 to win"
>what is Hyperarmor/parrying
>>335937495
>no Kings Field games
DaS>DaSIII>BB>DeS>DaSII
I far prefer Bloodborne. It takes Dark Souls and makes it accessible to people who like having mobility in their action games. AND it pretty much has the perfect combat system for survival horror games.
It's streamlined, bullshit-free and rejuvenated in order to let people who don't like Dark Souls have fun with that kind of game.
>>335952198
Literally how could anyone prefer Dark Souls 1 to Dark Souls 3?
>worse bosses (no DLC included)
>HUGE dip in quality
>30 fps lock on even PC
It's just inferior in virtually everyway. I can understand Bloodborne because the setting is drastically different but Dark Souls 1? Nah senpai
>>335943880
fag
Dark Souls 2 had the best armor of any of the games
BB=DkS3>DkS1>DkS2
Never played Demon Souls. Also, even though I have DkS 2 at the bottom, it's still one of my favorite games.
Which of the 5 final bosses would win in a fight?
False king Allant
Gwyn
Nashanda
Gehrman
Soul of cinder
>>335942348
>DaS3 has originality
Is there any way to play Demon's Souls on PS 4
It's impossible to say without bias. DS1 was my first so it has an edge over the others. I can say it definitely has its flaws though. DS2 I feel firmly is the worst, but it's not bad. Bloodborne is the most consistent and unique throughout, though it has the least amount of content compared to the Souls games proper. DS3 felt like it took some of the best aspects of all the games, however the overall world and game progression is the most linear in the series. DeS is the only one I haven't finished.
If I could only play one souls game forever it'd probably be DaS3 by virtue of it nearly being a "Best of Souls" collection.
But we can all agree that this was the best final boss in the entire series, right?
>>335939724
It's a tossup between DeS and BB for atmosphere and setting. Something about the Nexus in DeS just stuck with me. I really need to beat both games, but I just prefer the pace of DaS' combat, and had more friends playing DaS and DaS III, while none playing DeS or BB. Not for summoning, mind you, I just like to play the game concurrently so I can discuss it and join in the fun, slogging through a game nobody else is playing is just a drag.
But good lord does BB draw me in. I like DaS quite a bit as well, and III is alright so far, but BB really wins in the atmosphere/lore/story department for me. DaS would probably win if Duke's Archives and Izalith hadn't been shit.
Also, I'm not sure about this at all, but even with the creator saying they're not linked, I'm almost certain that DaS and DeS are. I have no actual evidence, but it just feels as though DaS takes place in the far flung age of myth thousands of years before DeS, and that BB is long after DeS. I have no proof whatsoever, I cannot defend this view. Just a feeling.
>>335952851
I never finished BB, but out of the others probably Allant.
>>335952718
haha what a faggot
>>335953080
No.
>>335952851
At full power, probably Gwyn. As they are in the boss fight, Allant.
>>335952718
>implying
>>335937495
Bloodborne is objectively the best most interesting, original, and fun game.
>>335952718
I agree
DS3 = DS1 > BB > DeS > DS2
All other opinions are invalid. Basically only a retard would think otherwise
LET'S SETTLE THIS
http://www.strawpoll.me/10085128/r
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10085128/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/10085128/r
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10085128/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/10085128/r
>>335937495
How is this a question
BB is the best
All the rest are the same game.
DeS is second best because the rest wouldn't exist without it
>>335953798
I feel inclined to agree with the contents of this anonymous user's post due to my own opinions and experiences
>>335952851
Gerhman second phase would.
He's basically close combat ss3 Goku without the hair
Nioh will be the absolute GOAT
>>335952851
Probably Soul of Cinder since it's Gwyn + a bunch of people who were able to beat Gwyn
>>335953687
>no shields
>easiest souls (DSP had the least deaths in the base game out of every other souls)
>inferior vanilla bosses to DS3
>significantly less gameplay variety than any other Dark Souls game
>PVP was and still is a joke
>30 fps with dips in a Souls game
>feels incomplete without the DLC
Not even better than Dark Souls 1 tbqh
Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 > Bloodborne
>>335952583
>>30 fps lock on even PC
That's easy as fuck to get around though. Don't start with the "B-but muh ladder sliding" bullshit, either.
>>335953853
Too many people voting for BB due to exclusivity. Biased poll
DLC FUCKING WHEN
>>335953438
In terms of gameplay sure. In terms of presentation and character Gerhman is probably my favorite. Though that might be cheating since he's an optional final boss.
>>335937495
BB
DS3 is a close second though. Unless the DLC changes my mind.
>>335937815
Almost anon
Dark souls = demons souls = blood borne > dark souls 3.
B-team fan fiction not included.
>>335954332
Acceptable.
>>335954028
>>PVP was and still is a joke
I love this meme, Bloodborne's PVP was great fun, and far more balanced than the shitfest that is DaS3.
Though I still like the multiplayer in DaS3 better overall because of the madness of Dried Fingers.
BB > DaS = DaS3 > DeS > DaS2.
>>335954439
>bloodborne
>no shield
>build variety consists of fast attacking trenchcoat fag or playing as a fast attacking trenchcoat waifu fag
>souls game
Take than Onimousha wannabe out and replace it with DS3 then you have a good image
>>335937495
>2016
>still playing meme souls
BB = DaS3 > DeS > DaS1 >>> DaS2
You lorefags and atmospherefags are so strange. For me it's always been about how fun the game is to play, and the speed that both Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 have compared to the others is just too satisfying.
I'll go back and play Demon's Souls every once in a while, but I don't think I'll ever go back to Dark Souls 1 or 2.
They're all bad games
MGS1= DAS great all around game that got a green pass for the series
MGS2= SOTFS initially hated by everybody and later recognized as the best game in the series by people with actual taste.
MGS3=Bloodborne A game that tried to put a spin on the gameplay of the series and succeeded, gaining the saga new fans and popular attention.
MGS4=DKS3 A game the original creator didnt want to make and its 80% fanservice to the first game. it's short and had the potential to be the best game but ends up being dissapointing.
this is literally indisputable.
>>335954548
bloodborne is better than ds3
>>335954548
>Dark Souls 3
>build variety consists of mashing R1 or playing like a retard
>>335954668
this, also straight swords > literally everything
that's just boring
>>335937495
Roll roll attack
>>335954486
>far more balanced
Literally what is unbalanced about DS3s PVP? On release DS3 is UNDENIABLY more balanced than any Souls games PVP.
I keep hearing this meme, what is it? Can people not get past the "free win" tier Estoc/Dark sword spammers by simply parrying or absuing hyperarmor against them?
Dark Souls 3 has been fun as fuck PVP wise for me and outside of the greatshield meta (which is getting fixed), NOTHING seems imbalanced in the same vein as
>R1 spam fest to heal Bloodborne PVP
>Backstab fishers + poise toggle escape try hards in Dark Souls 1 PVP
Bloodborne is barely a Souls game. It stands alone and frankly, outside of the setting, the combat is way to simplistic and button mash friendly for my liking. Nothing comes close to the Dark Souls staple of rolling a sword and Board or Heavy weapon build that Dark Souls 1 and Dark Souls 3 had.
Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 >= Bloodborne > Demon Souls > Dark Souls 2
>>335954439
I'm glad someone has some taste. Ds3 isn't far behind the rest but it suffers from a few problems the others don't.
Ds2 is obviously amateur trash.
>>335954879
Couldn't agree more. Dark Souls 3 is a really fun game, but it's not the same kind of experience as the original IPs.
We don't even need to talk about that other one.
>>335954770
>>335954668
>>335954667
see
>>335954867
Don't blame your lack of skill to Dark Souls 3 being imbalanced. Estoc/Longsword spammers are LITERALLY the most easy wins in the game.
Heavy STR weapon builds
>trade with them every time with your hyper armor for a free additional hit that leaves them stun locked
>rinse and repeat
>enjoy the easy wins and never losing to a Straightsword scrub again
>>335954667
Not according to every poll i've seen and my personal experience
>>335954667
incorrect
>straight swords
i haven't lost to an estoc nor a straight sword since i started using a glaive, 10/10 best counter
>>335954879
>>335955019
>these bloodbornefags desperately samefagging
Embarrassing tbqh
>>335955081
>PvP
You're a sad little thing.
>>335955019
You can consider DS3 less good than the others if you want, but I don't get the reasoning that it's worse because it's not an original IP. Dark Souls is pretty much Demon's Souls 2 and Bloodborne is Demon's Souls 4
>>335954879
>>335955019
Nah, Bloodborne is literally incomplete trash and easily the worse souls game (minus DS2) without DLC.
Enjoy playing the same build every time with your dead community tho
>>335955347
It suffers from being a sequel because of lore. Part of what makes ds1 good is the mystery of the events. The more you talk about them, the less mystery they're is.
See pharis, ricard, and havel's references. They're shoe horned in and feel out of place. Ds1, demons, and bb, didn't have any of that.
>>335945016
King's field is practically a different genre though.
>>335955386
Tell me senpai, what's it like to have shit taste?
>>335955569
Nothing in Dark Souls 3 felt shoe horned or out of place. This genuinely strikes me of another "/v/ desperately reaching for criticisms over a new successful game".
>>335954096
Same could be said for people who vote for DS3 because they haven't played Bloodborne since it's exclusive.
Eitherway, it's biased.
>>335955569
I thought DS3 had plenty of mystery though. In terms of atmosphere everything from Irithyll onwards is pretty amazing
>>335955706
I'm listening.
>>335943595
your soul level should be like 60 before ng+
>>335945184
Location is DS2-tier, only Nameless King is good
>>335937495
Better question is which game has the best hub?
>>335940325
Literally Me.
>>335955984
Obvious.
DaS3 = BB > DaS1 = DeS >>> DaS2
>>335937495
oh one of these threads again where if someone rates ds2 or anything else ahead of ds1 the autismos will sperg all over them even though ds2 is known to be the better dark souls
>>335945184
Fuck manserpents, there was a criminal lack of actual dragons on Archdragon Peak and if you want my honest opinion on Nameless King it would be a thousand times better if it didn't finish with the Slow ass Humanoid Duel at the end and just had King of Storms be more Aggressive like Ocerious was in the Second Half.
>>335955725
>fan service: the game
>nothing feels shoehorned
kek
>>335956405
WAKE UP BITCH
>>335956295
>even though ds2 is known to be the better dark souls
I don't hear it praised in any regard and the only actual videos I've ever seen of it is when people post about the shitty bosses or the Incredible Downgrade it Took before it came out.
>>335937495
DaS3 .... ONLY IF THE DIDN'T RUSH ITS RELEASE
FUCK
>>335956295
>its a butthurt das2tard episode
>>335954867
There's a ton of broken builds and unbalanced weapons. To deny this only shows you're an idiot. I can beat a Havel Estoc shitter without much issue, but to deny it's fundamentally broken is hilarious, the same as straight sword's having 50 like 50 less AR than greatswords while having retardedly fast swing speed and little stamina consumtion.
>>335954867
>outside of the setting, the combat is way to simplistic and button mash friendly for my liking
You're literally describing DaS3.
You realise weapons in Bloodborne have 2 - 3x larger movesets than DaS3, and you can combo into and out of every single ability unlike DaS3? You can't even combo into and out of 2H form in DaS3, and weapon arts are largely the exact same thing for each class of weapon, very little unique ones.
Then there's the fact that BB also has AYY mode and beast mode which actually change the entire way your character plays, and that magic is actually quite a high skillcap form of play as opposed to DaS3's 3 viable sorceries.
THEN, there's the fact that you can parry heals in BB, which adds the opportunity for far great outplay potential since Estus is basically not punishable since it's so fast, you're lucky to jap a single running hit in to someone who Estus's.
>>335956508
Only a honest death will cure you now.
>>335956405
PIZZA GIRL!
>>335937495
>DeS guy becomes the strongest Demon
>DaS guy sets himself on fire or gets fucked up so another one can set himself on fire
>DaS2 is the same thing
>Bloodborne guy can wake up and get a fucking life, become sex slave of a japanese porn star or become a almighty porn star from space
>DaS3 guy can set himself on fire, make a hard reset on the world or become the king of corpse fuckers
Pick
Armored Core
>>335956632
PUFFY VULVA
>>335956596
bb>ds3=ds2>ds
deal with it autismo
>>335946664
>Smough's running attack is cancelled when the cutscene starts
>Smough restarts said attack
>Player is hit even though he is in no way even close to getting hit
"LOLOLLOLOLOL YOURE REACHING ITS JUST DSFIX"
DaS3 is the FF13 of souls games.
Linear railroaded piece of shit
>>335941901
>games have to be brutal sodomy to be fun
>it is impossible to enjoy both hard and easy games
Ok.
>tfw I unironically think3 > BB > 2 > 1 > DeS
It feels weird, but, to be wholly honest, any time I replay one of the games I can't help but feel like I'm missing something from the others that they didn't transfer over/do properly. It's like Pokemon to me at this point.
>>335950413
>the game overall feels dated compared to DS3 and DS1 and the bosses were meh tier at best not to mention the mediocre OST
>mediocre OST
wut, its leagues better than anything in bb or other souls games. in other games ost is almost always choir screaming and loud noices
DaS1 = BB > DeS > DaS3 = DaS2
DaS3 is really boring as is. When it gets the DLC treatment it will go up more than likely.
>>335939108
I agree with your order, but DeS PVP was not balanced at all.
>>335956521
ds2:sotfs is 20 times > dark souls 1.
Dark Souls
Game isn't retardedly hard as a meme like 2 and 3
Good amount of content without being overwhelming like 2
best level design
best pacing
extremely open-ended from the beginning
lots of different playstyles and viable builds in PvE
Bloodborne gets second for actually having an interesting story and world and for having really tight, fast paced action gameplay and tough bosses, but loses out due to level design and every character you play feeling the exact goddamn same but with a different weapon. There's no 'builds' in BB.
I don't care which game we all think it is, as long as it's not Demon's Souls. Fucking garbage.
>>335955725
You really think pharos set want shoe horned?
>>335955841
Don't get me wrong, it is good.
But it had the forced bits like ricard-for-no-reason that the other games simply didn't have. Think all the good parts but some extra bad parts
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were the best.
note how both games are actually really easy and not hard in the slightest, because the difficulty is not what makes these games good.
DaS3 needs a lot of work before it overtakes Bloodborne and DaS1. They'll need to retool almost the whole game.
I prefer bloodborne. I'm glad from is done with sequels for a while I just don't think they're very good at them. DeS DS and BB all feel fresh and fantastic.
I don't give a shit about exclusivity, I honestly wish pc dudes could have bloodborne as well, I think it's something really special.
I hope their next game is a new ip where they take some risks (or armored core 6 cuz I'm an AC-fag).
>>335950413
>CHAMPION
large guy in armor
>Qt Brothers
large guy in armor
>Cinders
large guy in armor
>Abyss Watchers
large guys in armor and then large guy in armor
>Pontiff
large guy in armor
>Nameless King
large guy in armor and a dragon
>OCELOTTTTTTTTTT
actually a memorable fight
After completing all of them i think DS is my favorite.
DS2 feels like a chore to play and feels so slow, and ADP being a stat is retarded. The game also has exceptionally shit levels like the gutter.
BB is to manic and can be infuriating with enemies that swing out of nowhere mid combo. Its still a fun game, but i like to chill out when i play games.
DS3 was fun but it has broken poise, PVP and weapons are fucked as straight sword beat everything. The game felt short too, and enemies were more difficult than bosses.
DS has the best pace in the game for me, i like being able to have different builds that feel different. Strength being a tank and dex being quick and agile. World is also best and exploring was never a chore.
DeS is to old now and whilst it has some of my favorite bosses and ares the combat does not hold up quite as well the other.
>>335958219
Funny how these same idiot's who praise das3 for it's generic knight boss's bashed das2 for it's generic knight boss's
DaS1 > DaS3 > DaS2 >>>>>> DeS
Haven't played bloodbournebut I will when it comes to pc :^)
Demon's Souls is a good game for laying the foundation for DaS, but my god was it a technical mess with the most bullshit artificial difficulty I've ever seen in the souls games. It's not hard because it requires skill/patience, it's hard because they cripple you to the point where going on just isn't worth the effort. And yes, I've beaten every souls game at least once.
>>335958494
>I've beaten every souls game at least once.
>Haven't played bloodbourne
>>335957323
A Bowblade build, a Kos Parasite build, and a Beast Claw build aren't going to play anything like eachother.
>>335958571
I agree, but it's a shame it took the DLC for that to happen, and a build doesn't come together until the game is over.
>>335937495
Fact: Ashen One/Soul of Cinder makes the best phone wallpaper
>>335956612
Bloodborne is pure gimmicks, to deny this shows that you're an idiot.
>no powerstancing
>non-range parrying that is hilariously broken in PVE against even most bosses
>No weight limits
>No fatrolling
>No shields
>Literally every playthrough that i've seen and even experienced myself has felt damn near identical
>Chalice anything
The transformations are a neat idea but in the same vein as Dark Souls 3s weapon arts, they're nothing but gimmicks and I personally didn't care much for it in terms of playing with it.
Some anon on here said it best
>"There's a special place in my heart for a heavy armored knight with a big ass sword, a place that no clothed cunt with a gimmick weapon and a gun that encourages spam and a parry with no risk what so ever can ever replace."
The game also sucks major dick Post-rom Yharharhar and it just drags on.
That's not even discussing the lack of spells, pyromancy, dark magic, miracles, sorcery, weapon classes as well as even basic shit like weapon quantity and armor vairation that is more than some trenchcoat edgelord
Bloodborne was nothing but setting and atmosphere for me, gameplay wise it fell flat. Saying Dark Souls 3 is "R1 mash friendly" confirms that you haven't PVP'd with anybody that is even remotely decent nor have you made it past Ithryll. Good luck R1 spamming a heavy sword hyperarmor fags and good luck R1 spamming 99% of the enemies mid-late game as well as the bosses.
Face it, Dark Souls 3 has made Bloodborne obsolete. The bloodborne general is essentially a Dark Souls 3 lite general at this point, /v/ rarely talks about Bloodborne anymore and frankly, Pre DLC Bloodborne felt incomplete. The bosses were and overall it was pretty damn easy/short as DSP proved by completing it in under 130 deaths (took him 320 deaths to complete Dark Souls 3 and even then he cheated and summoned on Nameless King).
Bloodborne felt like the most incomplete souls game to me to date and the DLC is more or less mandatory.
>>335958494
Your taste is trash
>>335958559but bloodbourne doesn't have souls in its title anon:^)
>>335937495
Nioh
>>335958571
Each one of those is something you can only do extremely far into the game anyway. So you're going to hunter axe/ludwig blade your way through most of the game to them anyway.
>>335958905
>>335937702
I wish they would stop toning that hat down
>Ridiculous cloth tornado hat that took up 50% of your screen
>Gets balled up into that thing. Still huge and covers the center off the screen
>Is shrunk down and put close to the rest of the body
>Something falls on it and flattens the ball into the pancake in DaS3
I just use the onion helm now.
>>335941721
>Variety
The sad reality of souls is that it only ever had the build viability that you see in BB. There's a Best Weapon for every build, and a couple Acceptable weapons in the wings, and then a pile of shit where everything else goes.
In Bloodborne, there are fewer weapons, but every one of them is viable for the entire game with the right gems, and every combination of primary stats is viable as well.
I have played massively enjoyable and fluid build of every combo of Strength, Skill, Bloodtinge and Arcane, and every conceivable combination has at least one weapon that is perfect for the build.
Dark Souls 3 has been a massive disappointment in that department. Any build aside from pure Str, pure Dex, Quality or Pyromancy is going to be a fucking slog until VERY late game, when you finally pick up spells that are worth using in combat. Faith builds are just completely pointless unless they get buffed in a coming patch, but I won't hold my breath for that.
Really, Bloodborne may have less to choose from, but every choice is a good one.
cutting own arms off >>>>>>>>>> fromsoft's netcode
>>335953438
Soul of cinders was really lame as a character.
Gwyn had so much buildup going on and together with the music it was just great even if he wasn't hard (maybe on purpose?).
>>335958713
>pissfilter shot of the least interesting final boss in Souls in everything but mechanics
It's actually really sad that, while Nashandra might be a piss easy fight, she is at least an object of some interest lore-wise. Soul of Cinder is literally just "NOW YOU MUST FIGHT...THAT THING FROM THE BOXART! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo~"
>>335959119
What?
>best weapon for every build
Feel free to list them
>Longsword
Estoc and Dark sword both serve completely different purposes, same with the Katana/Washing Pole
>Greatsword
Claymore is perfectly viable and genuinely seen as one of the weaker Greatswords in the game. Greatswords in general justl ike Longswords are pretty great
>UGs
FUGs was OP for a day or two before it go a huge nerf and is still very viable. The basic Greatsword (Guts sword) is viable due to the reach whereas other UGs like Astora/Profaned have excellent range/pokes and the curved blade also has its own purposes due to its speed and deceptive range. All perfectly viable, even classics like the Zweihander
>axes
Great Axe was deemed the best until most people started taking a liking to the BKGA.
Then there's Halbeards, spears, dual wields that are all perfectly viable.
No need to lie to pass off your non existent argument anon. Enjoy playing as a trench coat wearing speedster fighting other trench coat wearing speedsters in your dead game
>>335959267
I don't get how Gwyn is supposed to be easy
do people just instinctively parry hm flawlessly on their first attempt or something? I didn't even know he could be parried since most bosses in this game can't
>>335959516
Its been a long time but I think his attacks have huge parry windows
Why did all this "hurr muh Bloodborne" posting only start with 3's release? BB threads were for the most part self-contained and not vocally cunty prior to 3.
>>335959516
Different people have different problems.
The same boss that feels impossible to some can be easy for others.
I've played the whole game with parrying so I just got super used to it and was curious if you could parry him.
For me it made Gwyn feel kinda pathetic and weak which really fit the game's theme, I think.
>>335954439
This is one I can get behind. The only ones with passion put into them.
I love the dark souls series, but Bloodborne was much more interesting of a game in almost every way.
>>335959859
I think it's mostly due to the shitposting around BB. Now there has to be shitposting around DS3 to make things right
>>335958219
>Champion
Champ is a fucking baller with a midair kick combo you shut your fucking mouth
>QT brothers
Interesting mechanics with phases beyond the patented DaS2 "adds element to its weapon and continues to do the same exact moves"
>Cinders
God-tier boss mechanics that cycle through all the various combat options the players have. I wish the lore behind it was more than "Guy in the Posters," but it's still a very engaging fight/
>Abyss Watchers
Actually, they're probably the closest thing to DaS2's "Dude in Armor" model, although the first phase is very original, with the boss ads attacking eachother, and the moveset is very unique. The fire trail mechanics, straight from Maria's school of Weeb Edge, and the YEEHAW greatsword make the boss more memorable than pretty much any of DaS2's ArmorDude fights.
>Pontiff
Not actually wearing armor, and for the quality of his moveset compared to anything DaS2 did, see above. Lore wise, a very interesting villain.
>Nameless King
A boss with a visual design that strikes a chord right through to feelings of Dark Souls 1, with a theme that harkens back to Demon's Souls. Both phases are interesting, and make for a memorable, intimidating figure.
>OCELOTTTTTTTTTT
I honestly didn't care much for King Dragonflaps, mostly because he kind of just exists in the lore without much mention outside of his own area, and his fight is largely just him smacking the ground and running back and forth, with the occasional breath attack. Basically Vordt in a Dragon Costume with some dialogue. It;s a decent fight, I just didn't find the character or the fight itself to be very compelling compared to other bosses.
>>335959464
Estoc is a rapier, not a longsword, and the Katanas are AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN their own weapon class. Same for Axes, Great Axes, and Halberds.
Pull your head out of your ass.
ITT: my opinion > yours
Pure fucking autismDaS 2 is shit though
Bloodborn always felt a bit less difficult due to the speed, you can jump around so much it doesnt matter if you miss a roll timing because you can alwaus do it again and not get punished the same way, id say ds1>ds3=bloodborn>des>ds2
I respect everyones opinion of the game rankings.
So long as you put DS2 dead last and acknowledge the other 3 are fairly close together overall.
How do we just gather all the dog shit 2 "fans" an just end their ugly and disruptive meme once and for all?
I suggest public doxing by the mods of all DS2 supporters.
mite be cool.
>>335955984
Toss up between The Nexus and The Hunter's Dream for me.
>>335960325
>Estoc is a rapier
Estocs are huge 2handed beasts, have a stiff "blade" with no edge and only a point, and don't have the complex hilt.
>>335937495
BB>DaS>DeS>DaS2
Haven't played DaS3 yet
DS1≥DeS>>DS3>>DS2 (haven't played enough of BB to fairly rate it)
In terms of replayability: DS1>DS2>DeS>>DS3
A few hours into a completely different character build on 3, and I'm already having a damn hard time staying interested. 3 is a good game, but holy fuck is it horribly designed for repeated playthroughs. Way too much shit is locked away late in the game.
>>335959284
>Giving her black eyebrows
>>335955984
Demon's Souls
>>335960937
And lipstick. And a human complexion. The whole thing is trash.
>>335941928
Vice city
>>335960820
>BB's Guiding Moonlight
>dark souls 2
>not the best
/v/ having shit taste as usual
>>335960820
This.
Nexus is huge and otherworldly, and feels important.
Hunter's Dream is otherworldly as well, but it's also small and comfy, with a cosy little workshop on a hill. Both have their charm.
Next question, regarding your image: Which Moonlight Greatsword is best?
I've personally gotta say BB>DaS1>DeS>DaS2 with not DaS3 because it's literally just DaS1's MGS again. Bloodborne's introduction of the sword in TOH was fucking phenomenal, and I love the way it looks and performs in combat. DaS1 has a very pleasing look of an old blade encased in crystal, while DeS is just pure crystal. In DaS2 both the real MGS and the fake look like garbage because they're just tropical splash flavored Swordcicles. Also the blade of the true MGS is too round.
>>335960881
The only qualifier for a Rapier is the edgeless thrusting blade. Both the Rapier and Estoc are thrusting swords that are quite literally classified BY THE GAME as rapiers. Your personal opinion on the finery of the hilt is irrelevant and incorrect.
>>335961553
A shiny (you) for the meme, my friend! Don't spend it all in once place!
>>335961553
i won't buy 3 then
i regretted buying 2 anyway
>>335961573
>The only qualifier for a Rapier is the edgeless thrusting blade
Rapiers have edges.
>Both the Rapier and Estoc are thrusting swords that are quite literally classified BY THE GAME as rapiers
Maybe if you're playing the game in some trash translation. They're classified as thrusting swords.
>>335960820
Doll > MIB
nexus is grimy, dingy and smelly, too
hunters dream is fucking beautiful... though kinda lonely compared to nexus
fags in nexus miserable anyway 2bh
Very flawed, but I had fun with this Souls game.
>>335937495
BB > DeS > DaS > DaS3 > DaS2
>>335962084
No, Cutlasses have edges. Rapiers have straight, diamond shaped cross-sectioned blades that taper to a thrusting point. They're thrusting swords.
The point is that Estoc doesn't belong under the Longsword classification you tried to sneak it into. So whatever you try to turn the argument into, you're still wrong and kind of a fag.
>>335938538
This is pretty correct except I think bb and ds3 are nearly equal quality
>>335962424
I'm actually a random fucker unrelated to that guy. I wouldn't classify an estoc as a longsword. And rapiers definitely have an edge.
>straight, diamond shaped cross-sectioned blades that taper to a thrusting point
So the majority of European swords? I can't think of a single double edged straight sword that doesn't have a point and a diamond cross-section.
>>335952718
Looks like you're wearing a fuckin snuggie
Dark Souls > Bloodborne > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls III > Dark Souls II.
t. someone who's loved the series since Demon's US release
>>335959391
The consistency of scenery while introducing new environments was amazing in Bloodbourne
>>335953756
>crests are historically inaccurate
The only reason we don't see more crests is because game developers are lazy and programming crests for each faction is too much money.
>>335963354
First time I've seen a decent souls tier list on here
>>335963039
You'd be surprised. I'm referring specifically to the thickened diamond cross section on the top right. That's you're typical rapier/estoc/epee cross section.
This cross section is unsuited for a sharp edge because, no matter how sharp you manage to get it, it still has to move more material out of the way than any other the other examples to slice through a surface. As such, it's only seen on thrusting weapons.
>>335937495
>own Demon's, Dark, Dark 2, and now Dark 3>haven't beaten a single one
I'll get mid-way through every fucking time and lose interest/be too casul. Closest I got was Throne Defender/Watcher in Dark Souls 2 but I fucked up and didn't know you could go there before hand to beat them first.
So it was killing them and then killing Nashandra which was too much and I gave up.
I'm hoping I get through Dark Souls 3 fully.
Dark Souls 1 got fucking boring after Abbot and Costello so I quit in Tomb of the Giants.
this is definitely king
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfhUJvn5rM
DaS 2 >= 1 > 3 > Demon's
Didn't play Bloodborne
>>335956980
You type like a retard and have the comprehension of one, read it again and I said that dsfix may be a factor, not necessarily and I say reaching because it's obviously a glitch due to the sudden interruption of the attack in process supposed to be canceled but cutscene being skipped so fast.
There is a reason that attack happened the way it did when it did, I have never seen that replicated in mid battle nor to my knowledge anyone else, it's just a very specific situation that the game handled badly and not a hitbox issue.
>>335964613
sure kid.
>>335937495
Ds3 and BB made me miss a lot of the good things Ds2 did, but ds2 was still easily the biggest disappointment in the series.
DaS looks the best at first glance, but I usually omit most of its bad parts from my mind when I think about it like lost izalith and I think a lot of others block the bad parts out as well.
DeS is the most consistent in quality throughout and though doesnt do some things as good as DaS it just doesnt have many obvious dips in quality.
ranking:
Des=Das>Ds2>Ds3>BB
>>335957273
When will this meme die.
