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Did the Wii even have generation defining core software?
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The most famous software titles for the Wii seem to be Wii Sports and Wii Fit. However, when it actually comes to famous core games nothing is really fondly remembered aside from the Super Mario Galaxy duo or the incredibly niche Xenoblade. The closest thing aside from those three is probably Twilight Princess which was also a GameCube game.

Even the GameCube had more defining games during its life that managed to turn heads (Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Wind Waker, Melee). There is also niche masterpieces there like F-Zero GX.

I don't think the Wii was shit like most people here, but it certainly dropped the poll compared to most other Nintendo consoles especially for how well it sold.
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>>335937342
yes.

This one wii game was showing the power of modern gaming.
Jokes aside monster hunter 3 tri was pretty good
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>>335937714
Monster Hunter Tri was the probably the only big budget third-party game the Wii actually received aside from that MMORPG Dragon Quest.
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>>335937973
true
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This will trigger /v/, but Project M is probably among the best things for the Wii. Its probably the best Smash Bros. game. Its a shame that it got canned.
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>>335937342
No More Heroes is very popular
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>>335938637
No More What? Exactly. No one talks about it anymore because the only ones that did talk about it back in the day were desperate Nintendo fanboys who desperately wanted some mature action games of decent quality. Same thing with Bayonetta 2.
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>Super Mario Galaxy 1&2
>SSBB
>Xenoblade
>No More Heroes 1&2
>Mad World
>Tales of Graces (PS3 version came later)
>TLOZ Skyward Sword (I know, but normies and tryhards love it)
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>>335939062
and don't forget this

TvC>UMvC3
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>>335939062
>>TLOZ Skyward Sword (I know, but normies and tryhards love it)

Skyward Sword only sold on par with Majora's Mask despite having a far, far larger installbase to work with. Heck, it only sold four million copies, compared to Twilight Princess which was a Wii launch title that managed to sell over seven million (and another 1.5 million on the GameCube).

Every "normie" or "casual" Zelda fan I know irl barely got past the first dungeon before saying "its shit".
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>>335939423
Why should I apologize for the truth?
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It had a great library, there was plenty of first party Nintendo and loads of neat obscure third party titles.
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The WiiU's disaster made me appreciate the Wii more.
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Donkey Kong Country Returns was a fantastic game
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Metroid Prime 3 was great.

Also this >>335940008
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Kirby's Return to Dream Land was really good as well. Probably the best Kirby game aside from the Super Nintendo duo (Super Star and Dream Land 3).
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the wii had tons of good games, but I think the impression that few of them were "defining" is because little to nothing about the console itself had to do with their quality.

mario galaxy/2 are fantastic, but almost all of the game design could and would survive basically intact on the gamecube. metroid prime trilogy could be smoothly converted to dual analog. xenoblade is meant to be played on a normal controller. dkc returns, smash bros, etc.; to my knowledge, only red steel 2 and skyward sword were critically acclaimed games that used the motion controls in any meaningful capacity, and we know how /v/ feels about the latter.

metroid prime, wind waker, etc. were defining because the gamecube's power let them do things that simply wouldn't have been possible on the n64, but that's a trick they can't really repeat again, since their game design needs aren't really restricted to hardware power anymore -- which, they recognize this, hence the wii being about motion controls instead of more power, but it hasn't really mattered
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>>335941726
That's a part of it in a way. Part of the reason why Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4 got as much as accolades as they did was not just for pushing the graphical envelope during their generation but also re-defining aspects of their genres (especially for the last one). By comparison, the Wii was a generation behind in graphics, so the only time its games really took notice (Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy 1, and Smash Bros. Brawl) was when the HD twins were still stumbling and the PS2 was still getting software (albeit not much).
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>>335941726
Can you play Red Steel 2 without playing the first?
I'm very interested in it but everyone says 1 is cancer
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>>335942657
Red Steel 2 is bretty good, I never played 1 myself and from what I understand they have nothing in common other than the name.

Even the location and art style is different.
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>>335937342
Yes, especially when you compared it to what the competition was doing. PS3/360 were just more powerful versions of PS2/XB, the games didn't really do anything new and neither did the hardware. Halo 3 was great, but it wasn't very different from Halo 2. Lots of PS3's biggest games were, in my opinion, a step back in game design, stuff like Uncharted or TLOU.

Nintendo had 480p, last-gen visuals but their games tried to do something (relatively) new, at least in terms of the control schemes. Lots of games were designed with these new controls in mind, they tried to innovate and push boundaries if only a little. The experience you got on the Wii was different enough from the one you'd get anywhere else whereas Sony, MS and other publishers were, for the most part, pushing for higher-quality visuals without changing much else and in some cases game design actually suffered.
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>>335942657
Absolutely no knowledge of Red Steel one is needed for Red Steel 2. They aren't even remotely related. They are less related than the original Mega Man and MegaMan Battle Network.
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Although it's true there's only a handful of defining games, there's a huge amount of 7/10 or 8/10 games I don't think I would have ever played if it wasn't for that.

One game like that which isn't on this picture is Deadly Creatures.
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Bayo 2 and smash are the only games I distinctly remember. Everything else is a blur.
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>>335942485
>so the only time its games really took notice (Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy 1, and Smash Bros. Brawl) was when the HD twins were still stumbling

Brawl wasn't out until 2008 and all those games sold very, very well and continued to sell long after release though. Xbox 360 wasn't stumbling at all, it had Halo 3 launch in 2007 and it posted massive numbers and had already had a couple hits with Gears, Dead Rising, CoD 2/3, etc.

They just appealed to different audiences and offered different experiences, people bought their shooters and realistic, gritty games on 360/PS3 and their Nintendo/family games on the Wii. Mario Kart was the best-selling Wii game after Wii Sports and that didn't launch until 2008 or so either, it sold something stupid like 38 million copies.
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>>335943440
Bayonetta 2 is Wii U buddy.
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>>335943272
The only thing that defined it was how bad waggle shit is and how fucking retarded modern gamers are. Just look at the how well that trash sold.
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>>335943461
I mean when the HD twins really hit their stride. They were struggling outside of the holiday season during 2007 and 2008, especially the PS3.
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>>335938637
Samurai Champloo is better.
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>>335943710
PS3 definitely but 360 was doing just fine, it wasn't posting massive numbers like the Wii but it was doing well. I'd say 360 hit its stride in that 2007-2009 period, with Halo 3, Gears and multiple CoDs. It also had some more niche exclusives like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Viva Pinata, etc. that dried up soon after when PS3 finally picked up support.

I just don't think the Wii's success was dependent on the other consoles struggling, they offered different experiences. The Wii sold well into 2011, even if sales were still down from previous years, and software always sold well. Games like Mario Kart, NSMB and Smash weren't out in that initial first year or two with Mario Galaxy and Zelda and posted massive numbers and continued to sell even years later.

Mario Kart had an insane attach rate, it's still at least $30 to buy even though there are close to 40 million copies out there, it's ridiculous. It's just one of those games you buy and never get rid of.
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People underrate how good Wii Sports was

that shit was fun as fuck
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>>335943624
>Just look at the how well that trash sold.
Gonna let you in on a little secret buddy.

The quality of a system's library is proportional to its popularity. If a console is popular more people are going to want to make games for it, this means it will have lots of shovelware but also good games.

The PS2, the DS, the Wii. They're amusing most popular systems ever and they all have great libraries.
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>>335944413
This, it was exactly what a novelty/tech-demo pack-in should be. Fun, accessible and showcases the gimmick the console is pushing well. Not ashamed to admit my friends and I played a fair amount of Wii Bowling and Tennis.
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>>335944626
>PS2
>great library
If you like lazily made games.
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>>335944758
PS2 had a great library, people forgot because most of it got ported to PS3 so there's no more reason to play PS2 versions
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>>335944945
Again if you like lazily made trash.
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>>335945049
>lazy trash
Is this what Nintendildos tell themselves every night to cheer themselves up?

Every gen Sony has smashed Nintendo in terms of well designed games.
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>>335945202
I was playing on PC that gen, kid.

PS2 overall is just a bunch of lazily made trash that is played at 480i and 30fps if you're lucky. The forced blur filters were horrible.
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>>335939062
Don't forget Metroid Prime 3.
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Come on, anon. The Wii had a ton of great games, like Zack and Wiki, No More Heroes, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Wario Shake It or Donkey Kong Country Returns.

It surpasses its competitors in replayability by a wide mile. Outside of like three games, the Xbox 360 is unusable right now, for example.
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>>335945414
>PC
My condolences.
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>>335943272
Mario Kart Wii was utter trash, easily the worst of the series.

Wii U & N64 is top tier
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galaxy was the only good game
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>>335945771
> The Wii had a ton of great games

My sides
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>>335946728
>My condolences
>2001-2006
That was the high point of PC man.
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>>335947398
Yeah. Nintendo DS had buckets of shovelware, too. Or the NES, or the PS1/2.

Not saying Wii is as great, but you're seriously thinking that shovelware cancels good games?
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>>335937342
Tales of Graces used to be a great Wii exclusive until the superior version got ported to PS3 in HD.
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Y'all are silly
>Brawl
>No more heroes 2
>Naruto shippuden clash of ninja revolution 3
>The best fucking mario kart
>Donkey kong
>Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
>Sin and Punishment
>Sonic Colors
>Madworld
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>>335939993

This. At least we got a real 3D Mario last-gen. Fuck, we got two of them.
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>>335948439
Not to mention a GOOD Metroid game and a legit Fire Emblem game (not Waifu Emblem).
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>>335948618
>GOOD Metroid game

You mean Other M or Corruption? Both look like terrible terrible Halo ripoffs
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>>335949284
Corruption isn't as good as Prime 1 but it's still fantastic
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>>335949284
Prime 3 is nothing like Halo except having a sci-fi first person perspective. Other M is a solid third-person action game with a shit story and retarded controls.
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