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blizzdrones on suicide watch
Meeting for them be sued by the blizzard patrol! More like!
This is just a PR Meeting, nothing more
They'll announce how sorry they are, but IP laws left them no other choice
Not the first time this has happened
>>335909787
/thread
Blizzard will never do vanilla progression servers because people playing retail will realize what a fucking disaster it is and how much they have fallen since then.
>>335909534
MFW Metzen will rape them like dogs in his SM basement.
This guys will be more sperm then men after he is done with them.
>>335910148
This website is 18+ only
>people honestly think vanilla servers will be popular
>>335908776
They're going to get jobs at blizzard, they'll be working on retail WoW
>>335909787
True, but it's the first time there's been such a shitstorm over it
>>335908776
>tfw this is his last post
>we will never see Mark Ken again
>he will be forever lost in Metzen cocaine rape chamber
>>335910245
But... they already are.
>>335910423
>a few thousand players
>that play for free
>>335909787
They already said that. Why would they have a meeting to say that they closed down the server cause their lawyers said it was dangerous to their IP?
Think b4 you post m8
>>335910245
maybe current wow is that bad where vanilla is a way better game
>>335910090
>80,000 people played vanilla privately for years
Good try buddy but throw some effort into your half baked opinions before you hit Post. Anybody playing vanilla wants to play vanilla, its not some sort of seizure that brainwashes us, I know vanilla is a pain in the ass. Its also my favorite, and the WoW I'd rather be playing.
>>335910234
The way you phrase that made it sound like we should all be posting porn nonstop.
I just don't understand why they didn't open a classic server. Oldschool runescape was such a massive success it literally overtook rs3 almost overnight.
>>335910492
>vanilla is a way better game
>nostalgiafags legitimately believe this
>>335910245
They said the same thing about Oldschool Runescape.
>>335910245
They will be. Blizztards would literally play a video game consisting of virtually eating shit, no, no, eating REAL shit if Blizzard packaged the fecal matter and slapped a logo on it.
People dislike the idea now because Blizzard was against it. As soon as Blizzard says "Oh no, we MEANT to implement it later!" They will 180 and continue with the 'suck blizzard's cock' program.
>>335910594
i never played either, im just saying since the amount of players dropped a lot, there must be some reason as to why
>>335910464
>A few thousand
severe under statement
>>335910090
> people honestly thinking the game has fallen somehow
like man I played four characters to 60 on Nost and all, but part of the appeal is because the game is so bad compared to modern WoW. Modern WoW is not bad.. its bland. Sanitized, convinient, relatively easy. By no means is it poorly designed, like a lot of stuff in vanilla.
>>335910464
f-free FREE NOBODY LIKE VANILLA
>>335910689
the game is over 10 years old, I know me and my other friend stopped playing because we just grew up and got tired of the same game.
We are 29 now and you cant expect us to keep playing 1 game for so long.
>>335910729
The word you're looking for is sterile
It's so polished and streamlined it doesn't even have an identity anymore, it's become the most generic prototype mmorpg in existence
>>335909787
:^) the post.
What you don't get is that they can literally hire the Nos team, extend their license out to their own server and it runs off of the blizzard banner and they slap a sub requirement on and they just make money. You know, like what the owners of Everquest did for project 1999 except it's free.
>>335908776
O SHIT IM SO FUCKING HYPE. but seriously if they do decide to do legacy they better not hire mark kern. I like the guy but he has a spotty as fuck record and could real fuck this all up
>>335910689
The game changed from what they wanted, doesn't mean the game didn't get better in some aspects but worse in others.
>>335910594
>New art style looks like crap
>Microtransaction store
>fucking selfies
>game is easy as shit now
Yeah I'll stick with older versions
>>335908776
it's all just a publicity stunt, this is only the beginning of the leadup to expensive legacy servers with only half the features that people want
>>335910921
Absolutely, Blizzard is going to let a hacked together pirated server be officially affiliated with them and let it run under their name
You're completely delusional
Nostfags are literally Goobergate 2.0
Bunch of poor basement dwellers who can't pay for a sub, so they cry like babies when their bottle gets taken away.
>>335910090
If they do bring legacy servers in, WoW will be the top streamed game. Blizzard needs publicity right now if they want Legion to be a success. If they were really greedy, they honestly could require everyone to update to the most recent expansion to play vanilla. People would still do that
>>335910148
are you trying to say metzen is going to corrupt the nostalgia devs?
>>335910245
They will be popular for half a year or maybe a year or so. After that people will run out of stuff to do and since legacy servers can't be updated with new shit everyone will unsub (see current WoW state - it's been almost a year since latest content patch and the game is a ghost town). I can totally see why blizzard don't want to invest in these things.
>>335910689
the amount of players didn't drop after vanilla. BC, WotLK, and Cata were the height of WoW's popularity
I wouldn't write this off so quickly. Blizzard has already expressed extensive interest in hiring new individuals to work on their older titles (Warcraft 3, Diablo II, among others) to modernize some aspects of them so they work with the Battle.net launcher and newer operating systems, possibly at higher resolution, too.
Is it really so farfetched they'd hire a team at low cost who already knows the classic WoW code to have them clean it up more, implement Battle.net features, and release it as "WoW Classic"? It's still a pipe dream, I agree, but it's not as farfetched as it might seem.
>>335910245
The runescape devs were smart enough to implement legacy, only to find out its way more popular. Turns out they don't give a shit because they're making money.
I never actually played WoW before but I might consider trying legacy servers if they actually make them available.
I figure a bunch of my friends would probably be into that so it'd be nice to try it out with them.
This is a PR stunt. They want to be seen as the good guys, hands being forced by law even though they didn't want to shut it down. They'll have a pointless discussion in which they talk about legacy WoW, and they're somehow going to coerce the Nostalrius team into releasing a positive statement about ActiBlizz
>>335910601
>They said the same thing about Oldschool Runescape.
Playing devil's advocate here.
Oldschool runescape is a literal internet meme. People ironically joined the servers. Even people who never played runescape know about the "buying gf" meme.
Oldschool WoW never really left an impression on people. It was always kinda bland. Even people who love WoW should admit this.
>>335911082
I don't think it has anything to do with not wanting to pay, because you could find private servers for much newer x-packs. Why is it so hard to believe people just wanted to reexperience vanilla wow? Why does it have to brushed away as being poor or not knowing what you want? Those assumptions straight up aren't true for the majority of players
>>335911082
I'll take the bait. It has just about nothing to do with paying for or being able to pay for a sub.
>>335911048
>a server made by a dedicated team
>took 5 years
>out of pocket
>no money payments for item stores and levels required and doesn't fish for donations
>the community sees them as true WoW fans
Yeah dude you're so right. Blizzard wouldn't hire the small devouted team that a quarter million and then some people support. You actually think that people look at Nos as some neckbeard hacker group that thought they could steal another persons idea for money.
If blizzard hired them, think of how the community would view it. "Man these guys at blizzard could have just done it themselves but they employed these dedicated fans because they created the community themselves and it would be wrong to take passion from their work." People would be all over blizzard.
>>335911425
>Oldschool WoW never really left an impression on people. It was always kinda bland. Even people who love WoW should admit this.
BC and wrath were bland? You shut your fucking mouth right now
>>335911425
>People ironically joined the servers
OSRS is full of memers but for the most part they unironically like it.
WoW was always more popular than Runescape back then as well.
>>335910594
Yeah vanilla sucked. I hated that I couldn't post on twitter while I played. WoD is so much better
lol fuck this i play vanilla wow because its free
blizzdrones btfo
>>335911628
Oh sure, they might hire them or use them as "advisors" for current WoW, but they'll certainly not hand them a license to run a pirate server
I don't understand why Nost has anything to do with legacy servers, why would Blizzard even bother working with them, if they decided to make them, they should already have 100% working code for the servers in the archives.
>>335911425
kill yourself
Why are /v/ so quick to hop on blizzard's cock?
Is it the contrarianism?
>>335911164
You do realize Nos's plan was to release the expansions and gate the content just like blizzard did right? That will at least give them 4 year of fresh content and enough time for blizzard to see if there is a market for this type of demographic. I feel like the ultimate goal here is to make WoW less of a facebook game and really bring it back to its roots
IF blizzard decides to introduce legacy servers nobody is going to actually pay a subscription to play them. lets not kid ourselves.
The main reason anybody actually plays on this shit is because it's free and nostalgic but I highly doubt a person with a wow subscription is going to purposefully take content away from themselves.
>>335911425
>old wow was bland
Well we all know who joined post Cata.
>>335911425
I know a group of like 8-10 people who unironically enjoy OSRS. You're literally wrong.
>>335911441
Most people who ACTUALLY played the game back then don't give a flying fuck about it anymore. Those who cry for legacy servers are mostly newfags who heard that vanilla was better and don't even know why they want to experience it. The moment they get their legacy servers they will realize that getting to max level will take them 2-3 months. They will be bored after a week and return to legion xpac or whatever.
>>335912061
Do you even understand how packed nostarius was?
No regular server could compare.
>>335912000
There is a single streamer for OSRS who regularly pulls more viewers than all the WoW streams combined.
That's pretty fucking sad desu.
>step on their turf
>get assassinated
feels good man
>>335911909
>hop on blizzard's cock
Believe it or not blizzard actually used to make some pretty great games. That being said most /v/ fucking hates what blizzard has become and really just want to see them make good games again (its not going to happen)
>>335911847
>kill yourself
but why?
I can't think of one charming thing about oldschool WoW except "LEEEEEROY JENKINS" (maybe) and the commercial portrayal from south park.
You guys really have to admit that WoW contributed almost nothing to memes. Say what you will about being a fun game, but we're speaking memes here. Memes are important because memeability is the meme-factor that will dictate future success to new memecomers.
>>335911959
This
The amount of people who want legacy servers and the amount of people who would be willing to actually pay for legacy servers are two very different numbers.
>>335912061
I played the game back then and I was playing when Nostralius got shut down. You are making a bunch of assumptions about how other people view that game and that's not an argument. I'm telling you straight up as a man who played the game when it came out and then came back to reexperience it: people who want to play vanilla actually want to play vanilla and the people I saw getting to 60 sunk considerable hours into the game. You don't have to share my opinion but you can't make rash generalizations all over the place and feel like you're winning somehow
>>335912061
fucking this famicom.
Vainilla is also a shitfest when it comes to balance.
Burning Crusade was the only remotely enjoyable expansion.
Still it was underwhelming lorewiseand thats for killing my favorite heroesand knowing the fact that blizzard didn´t bother to add a spellbreaker class and keep the exclusive classes
a minor peeve of mine , but hell it would´ve been cool.
>>335911956
They can't even handle the release of 1 xpac in two years without fucking up servers for 2 weeks during launch and a year-long content drought. What makes you think they can simultaneously update and maintain 2 versions of the game?
>He actually spent $130 dollars on overwatch
What a fucking retard. I know this is bait but I honestly feel bad for you
>>335911909
>le contrarian meme
I hate this , opinions aside , thats actually desperately clinging on to something from your past that was good. Blizzard itself is that. shadow of their former selves that got ruined beyond imagination when they sold out to activision.
>>335911832
Problem is this situation has rattled the WoW community.
>people refunding legion
>canceling subs until "muh legacy"
Pristine server post only made it worse. Of course just look at how the internet works, things are only going to get worse, bandwagoning hate against blizzard is spreading like wildfire. If OW doesn't sell well, all their hope is bent on Legions release and so far people aren't impressed by the Alpha. WoW Is falling in the streaming numbers and it's only going to get worse for them. They dug their own graves when they fucked the whole game up to appease a different target audience.
>>335909787
>i-it's never gonna get 100k!
>p-petitions don't matter anyway!
>mark kern is an h-hack!(this is probably true desu senpai)
>j-jones on you pristine servers are even more shit!
>i-it's just a pr meeting!
How did blizzcucks managed to get BTFO so many times in this rapid succession?
>>335912304
>Vainilla is also a shitfest when it comes to balance.
So is modern WoW. Arcane mages do nearly twice as much DPS and half the specs in the game, and nearly 4 times as much as some. Fire Mage's best in slot trinket is a Strength Trinket from a 5man (or an Agi trinket from anotehr 5man, depending on what you prefer).
>>335908776
I love vanilla and all but whats with the 40 year old weeblord?
>>335908776
They're going to kill him, aren't they?
This is the same shit Valve pulled with that German hacker who leaked the HalfLife2 beta. Invited him over with the fucking FBI waiting for him.
What a moron
>>335912204
Who would you rather fug?
Jessie or James?
>>335912248
BLOCKED
>>335912470
Why even bother posting in this thread if you're this clueless?
>>335912457
>blizz
>ever good at balancing a game
Another reason why overwatch will bomb hard.
>>335912350
LOL poor nostcuck detected. Don't worry kronos might still be up for a few more weeks :)
>>335910090
this to be honest
>>335912248
Roguecraft.
But I'm not a Nostbaby who wants legacy servers. I'd rather live in the now instead of the past.
But Roguecraft is always a thing I watch once a year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqx1CFomKMI
>>335911082
if you managed to get that triggered and BTFO by crying basement dwellers, what does that make you?
>>335912457
This is only relevant at the and of the xpac and only in BIS mythic gear. That means it's not relevant for like 99% of the playerbase.
>>335910090
>Blizzard will never do vanilla progression servers because people playing retail will realize what a fucking disaster it is and how much they have fallen since then.
Except the current game is better than vanilla. Call me back when Rag gets more than 3 moves.
>>335912204
>$130 for a TF2 clone
LOL
>>335912309
Nos was doing a good job up until shutdown. If they actually had a sub fee to support their servers it could easily be done. Now I'm not saying that it will be successful. It will be interesting to see if their playerbase is really willing to pay for this game.
>>335912204
The king of kucks
>>335912759
>being poor and a fag
lol nice dude :D funny meme btw :P
>>335912204
call me when they introduce 16v16, or at least 8v8
>>335908776
They will be murdered and body's dumped in the Blizzard vault
>>335912434
It's actually kind of sad. The few remaining warcraft fans are coming to realization that their shitty facebook game isn't as popular as they want it to be. This game is a lifestyle to some people
>mfw I'm still gonna play on Kronos
Am I the only one who would rather have a WotLK server instead of a Vanilla one?
>best zone music
>best raids
>best community interaction
>best pug experience
>>335913080
WotLK sucked
>5.5 million subscribers for WoW
>Only 10k people played Nostalrius daily
Nostalrius was free too. There will never be legacy servers.
>>335912828
>being dumb and demented
lol nice dude, hope your disability money was worth it.
>>335913080
Shittiest PVP too
>>335913136
Fuck off Nostfag. Wrath was the pinnacle of PVP.
>>335913080
Senpai you missed
>most comfy zone aka Grizzly Hills
>>335913228
More like you're too casual
>>335913080
Me desu, but I played it much more casually than I did Vanilla/BC.
>>335913235
t. bandwagonner
>>335911156
I am just saying after he is done with them they will only think about Metzens cock and forget about why they even came to him.
>>335913080
As much as i like WotLK
It buffed paladins , and i hate paladins.
Burning Crusade all the way.
>>335912967
doesn't work in such games,
Did you try to play dirty bomb 8 vs 8 its a total cluster fuck.
>>335913192
I daresay that most people had probably never heard of Nostalrius.
Keep in mind that old-school private servers for Runescape also had similarly "small" playerbases. Now look at OSRS
>>335913417
Only in specific patches was Paladin OP you retard
>mmmmm-muh vanilla
bring back tbc or wotlk
>>335913228
I would disagree. PvP in WotLK was fucking fantastic. Literally ANYONE could PvP and have fun, regardless of class. Sure, DKs were fucking annoying to deal with below 80 pvp, but at max level it was great.
Then again I'm pretty fucking biased because I was a 100% ArPen marks hunter and I tore through the anus of anyone who challenged me like a hot knife on butter.
>>335908776
And Mark Kern will never be heard from again.
>>335910245
I'm sure they will. I have two normalfag ex-military buddies of mine who used to play retail until they gave private vanilla servers a shit. They don't want to go back to retail now. The game used to be satisfying to play.
>>335908776
>implying it's not a trap to arrest them
>>335910464
Hey retail is "free". Hmm now why isn't that popular?
>>335913532
Yeah Hunter was fucking great at BiS
Outrange everyone, they can't fucking run
Also had a Paladin, Druid and Mage at around 6k gearscore full Wrathful. Good times.
>>335913417
>Patch 3.0 hits
>I'm running around in Hellfire Peninsula on my Enhancement Shaman
>See a Ret Paladin
>"Oh boy free kill!"
>Pop everything
>He fucking bubbles
>He bubbles and he's chunking my HP
>His bubble ends and I'm barely alive
>he hits my with a fucking 7 second stun
>mfw
>>335913215
lol dude chill out :P I'm lucky enough to have a good job so I don't have to rely on pirate servers ran by criminals for my entertainment :/ hopefully Taco Bell will give you a raise before Legion! XD I still can't decide between hunter or paladin!
>>335913468
>Holy paladin in full vengeful throwing flash of light heals for 30k
>not buffed
lamo. I bet you are a Retardin.
>>335908776
oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit
>>335913649
>FoL heal for 30k
BULL
SHIT
Even in FULL WRATHFUL with 3300+ bonus healing FoL will crit for about 10k at best.
>claim to hate Blizzard and call anyone who likes them a shill
>as soon as it looks like something might happen with legacy servers suddenly you like them again
and here I thought Blizzdrones were the cucks
>>335913532
100% ARP combat rogue killingspree afk players on flying mounts in mid air will always be the most fun I had in wow.
>>335913417
You're supposed to play them with your face.
>>335913635
Looks like you got outskilled soon
>LELE BLOW MY COOLDOWNS GG
>huh, he's not dead
>OH, OH MY GOD, AAAAAAAAAH
>Grounding Totem
>Ghost Wolf
literally
retarded
kill yourself
should've just backed away when he bubbled, wait for it to run out but nooo
>blizzdrones on suicide watch
Seems like they are about to thrive again because a few hundred thousand Blizzard dickriders can't get off on the past. People fully ready to pay a sub fee to Blizzard again.
>>335913532
>be arpen marks hunter
>in icc
>run out of arrows mid fight
>sneak in with the melee and raptor strike the fuck out of the boss
>still top the damage meters
What a time it was...
Just came here to say
Paladins are the most low-risk,high reward class in the game.
If you pick paladin , kindly kill yourself.
>>335908776
I have seen this story before.
The man who hacked HL2 still in jail.
>>335914107
>low risk
If you're good yeah
In PVP your heals will hit hard but you won't have the mobility while healing like a Druid or Shaman does, also a Shaman/Druid have superior CC over you. The only thing a Paladin does have is blessings like Freedom, Aura Mastery.
If you couldn't beat a Paladin you just sucked, sorry to say.
>>335911156
>What are you trying to tell me, that I can write corrupted characters?
>No, Pier. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.
>the only logical approach Blizzard could take besides Pristine Servers is to open expansion-locked realms for every single expansion, including ones going forward
are there really people on this board stupid enough to think a business would admit that there was a stopping point for a lot of people?
>>335908776
>muh vanilla game
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THIS IS SOOOOO STUPID.
>>335914215
Considering they invited the Nost team to visit them, yes. Legacy servers are happening RIGHT NOW because their "pristine servers" idea fucking bombed.
>>335910594
This is not about believing, this is simple fact, if you don't like facts then continue playing spinoff expansions, Legion is around the corner.
NEO-WOW SHITS AND BLIZZDRONES
ABSOLUTELY
COMPLETELY
UNEQUIVOCALLY
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
>>335914254
your dumb post says nothing
>>335914283
They're not going to do just the base game, you fucking moron
There's no money in a game with not even a remote semblance of class balance and Dishonorable Kills
>>335914370
Yes they are. It's why they have invited the Nost team, to get a vanilla server working. They'll see how it pans out, after a while they released the BC version and allow people to either switch or stay, after that WOTLK, etc.
I dont get why this Mike Kern guy has positioned himself as the leader of this thing. Is he wanting his old job back or something? Cant he get a job anywhere else?
I certainly wouldnt want to be working at blizzard in 2016 if I didnt have to. They have lost their soul and what they were. They are just shell of what they once were.
If I was like the ghost of Christmas future and went back to 1998 and let that blizzard play starcraft 2s campaign im sure they would be disgusted. I could fix the timeline and make starcraft great again.
>>335911425
>Oldschool WoW never really left an impression on people. It was always kinda bland. Even people who love WoW should admit this.
You're trolling right?
>>335911198
WotLK was peak, Cata is where subs started going down = where blizzard started dropping ball and didn't stop to this day.
>>335914435
Because private servers are so bug-free and totally like the real thing that hiring some frogs would be the best option
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?tracker=14
>>335914550
Hope you realize how fucking stupid you sound one day.
>>335914121
The difference here is that people actually give a shit about Legacy Servers, while few gave a shit about stolen HL2 source code.
>>335914625
That didn't stop 12,000 people minimum from playing the game now did it. :^)
>>335910090
No becuase a lot of people PREFER "new" wow over vanilla.
>BLIZZDRONES ON SUICIDE WATCH
>NOW WE GET TO PAY TO PLAY THE OLD SHIT
>>335911959
>>335912284
It's been proven numerous time that it isn't about sub, stop being desperate, your game is shit and market demands change, simple as that.
>Blizzard has already been thinking about going B2P
>They meet with Nost
>Offer to allow them to run the only official vanilla server
>No sub fee
>Just need to buy the box
This is my dream
Theres so much anger in these threads jesus christ
>>335915008
>no sub fee
>>335915008
>no sub fee
lol poor. just proof nostcucks can't afford the real game haha
>>335915008
>ActivisionBlizzard
>No sub fee
>>335913192
They barely have 3-4M lol, that was the reason they stopped reporting subs anyway
What will Blizzcucks do when legacy servers are released?
They would need at least 3 servers for each region to cope with the estimated number of players if they go through with this.
>>335914698
>80000 people daily!
>25000 people daily!
>12000 people daily
>8000 people daily!
Why is it that ever nostcuck has a different number of the people playing the game daily? In this thread alone there are at least 3 different numbers given by you cucks. Quit trying to placate your shitty server, suggesting that people actually played.
You maybe had .1% of the current wow population playing
>>335915243
They didn't even have to start reporting subs to begin with, they only did it to brag about the growth of the game. Who the fuck in their right mind would think that Blizzard was somehow obligated to do that?
OP I'm willing to wager most of the people who negatively respond to these threads don't love Blizzard as much as they've grown to hate Nostalrius fags.
>>335915369
They already have plenty of dead servers, hardly an issue.
>>335914121
Wut? Tell me what happened.
>>335912828
Well I guess it's true, a cuck and his money are soon departed.
>>335915243
It steadied off at 5.5 around December, I don't think it's dropped down to 3 in such a short amount of time but if you have proof I'll eat my words.
>>335915408
>they only did it to brag about the growth of the game
or you know, because they're a publicly traded company and want to keep investors happy
crazy, I know
>>335915461
It didn't steady off at all, it was trending downwards hard. They were losing ~400k subs a month when they released their last sub count.
>>335910349
good
>>335915405
12k is the official number of minimum players each day you god damned retard. There were like 800,000 accounts or something.
A single server still managed to have more active players on it than MULTIPLE Blizz servers put together. Hilarious.
>>335915008
>no sub fee
>on a server that's supposed to be exactly like vanilla
>>335908776
>third party server host hosts vanilla WoW
>blizzard doesn't like that, asks them to remove themselves
>users complain and want their own WoW vanilla
>blizzard says "we just can't do it" despite there being a perfect example of a third party that did
>>335915528
>They were losing ~400k subs a month when they released their last sub count.
100k from August to December. Like I said, I'm sure it went down some more but not as drastic as some people think.
>>335915503
It's almost like WoW alone didn't make $900mil last year still despite these "low" numbers
crazy, I know
Blizz stopped announcing their subs
THAT'S how drastic the situation is
I bet most active accounts are chinks on those time based subs
>>335915746
Took the third party 5 years to do it you donut.
>>335910594
>There are actually people in this thread who like current World of Warcraft.
>people request legacy servers
>"You don't actually want it"
>Blizzard gets into talks to implement them
>"They won't actually do it"
>they are implemented and people play them
>"You won't actually stick around"
>people on these servers stick around
>"You're not actually having fun"
>>335915008
>>no sub fee
>someone genuinely believes it
>>335908776
>implying people campaigning for legacy servers aren't blizzdrones
those fucking wow addicts are frothing at the mouth just thinking about blizzard releasing vanilla servers. they're just frustrated because blizzard has kept them in chastity for so long
>>335915408
>losing 1M of players per year since WotLK
>b-but subs count couldn't change from the start of 2015 because WoD and Legion are GOOD
Yeah, they did to to brag about the growth of game, now they don't brag, they damage control and still can't accept it's them who fucked up.
>>335915875
DREAM
DREAM!!!!
anon does not believe it. Learn to read
>>335915749
its going to gain a 3 million with legion and the movie, then probably drop a million the next month or two after
if they go through with the movie ticket gives you a free copy + all expansions and 30 days game time, the game will explode in subs again
>>335915909
THIS
FUCKING THIS
THEY'VE BEEN EATING BLIZZ'S SHIT FOR SO LONG AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN
>somehow people think wanting an older version of the game doesn't make you a blizzdrone
>>335915749
>it's not drastic
>doesn't release their sub numbers anymore
lel
>>335916094
When people are saying they are down to 1Million just because they don't release sub numbers anymore then yea, that's drastic. People just trying to push this as the new Tortanic like every other game.
>>335916012
>the movie ticket gives you a free copy + all expansions and 30 days game time
1. You can do everything in the game in a month
2. Minimum wage theater kids will just steal the codes and sell them online
3. Blizzard wants expansions and microtransactions, not subs
>>335916234
>2. Minimum wage theater kids will just steal the codes and sell them online
That's still getting people to play the game. It's not like Blizz is getting a cut of the codes being given away for free with a ticket.
>>335911048
Hacked together my ass, it takes a lot of work to keep one of these private servers up and running. Even the shitty ones. This was one of the most polished and bug-free ones out there, they knew what they were doing.
friendly reminder this is just pr damage control.
there will never, ever, EVER be true vanilla servers.
EVER
screencap this post, frame it, mail it to your congressman i dont give a fuck. this shit is blown way out of proportion and you will NEVER get what you want.
fucking tools just give the shitty game known as wow more publicity
>>335915851
I don't like it, I don't hate it with a passion either. It's a skinnerbox like everything else now, what else would I play? I'm not touching another mmo because I don't like their fluff
>>335912434
>blizzcucks
Its not blizzcucks saying those things, its the regular people who dont play either version of WoW.
>>335915746
I don't think they cared about it that much, but they had to put nostalrius down because later on it could bite them in the ass legally. Nostalrius's player base also doesn't matter to them, since private servers are free to play. How many of these people would actually subscribe? Private servers are remade literally by hand, there's always some shit that either not working or working incorrectly. If blizzard were to launch a vanilla server, you'd expect it to function properly, unlike the third party ones.
>>335912967
knowing them if they did that the game would have even less tickrate
>>335910148
More like Metzen will call the bull ramming his wife to ask if he can come and rape those Nostalrius guys for him while he watches with a trembling cock cage.
>>335911628
>Blizzard wouldn't hire the small devouted team that a quarter million and then some people support
Blizzard isnt a fucking charity, they dont fucking care. They dont even need the team, they could easily do it themselves if they wanted to but they obviously dont.
>>335916807
>Metzen
>A cuck
No Anon, he's a cokefiend.
>>335914121
No he isn't, he went to jail for 2 weeks because the German police and justice system is logical.
Let's enter the looney world for a second and say blizzard announces that it will release a vanilla realm. What will the catch be? If you can imagine it being released what would they fuck up?
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they made up some bullshit that you need to buy a separate box or sub for it.
>>335915405
The fact that you're incapable of understand what people mean when talking about nost's numbers only means that you're retarded.
800,000 accounts, 150k active accounts, aobde 12k simultaneously at peaks and 8k simultaneously at low points. These are all actual facts that you can look up and see yourself, if you're not too fucking retarded to do so, that is.
I know it's just easier to suck Blizz's big black dick and sit in your garrison and pretend it's fun and that you have friends.
>>335917107
Option to play Legacy™ Vainilla™ servers is only available for premium WoW™ Accounts
Get your level 55 boost and starter gear today!
>>335917107
>"we'll let you play vanilla, but at one cost."
>"the whole game has but one music track"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1waVSu4adDM
>>335917308
You make it sound like this is a bad thing.
>>335917107
You have to have a $15 sub for the main game plus an additional $10 fee to play vanilla.
Well I want TBC servers. Will they cater to me too?
>>335917438
>>335917107
> extra payment
This is exactly what would happen with a vanilla server. You would need a new box or additional sub fees.
>>335917107
Would come with none of the technical improvements. View distance, character models, textures etc.
None of the QOL stuff like more space in bank and stuff like that.
>>335911000
>new art style looks like crap
LEL
>mfw I used to play on a WotlK private server with my friends
>I always used to complain that Cata was better
I just want pre-firelands Cata.
>>335917553
>implying clownsuiting has anything to do with artstyle.
low quality bait. but i´ll take it.
>>335917530
But it would also have none of the bad stuff like arenas, lfg/lfr, pruning.
Then again, even as a vanilla nostalgia fag I can easily add that vanilla skill balance was off by lightyears.
>>335908776
NO BLIZZARD STOP
DON'T GIVE IN TO THE BABIES
>>335917584
Cataclysm started off magnificently, with genuinely difficult dungeons and a bunch of fun zones to level further in.
Probably will only play to unlock Corrupted Ashbringer transmog desu famalam
>>335910536
>80 000
you mean 800 billion goy
>>335917676
Not only that, but leveling was a blast. Not once did I hesitate when starting a new character, and I never got to a point where I just didn't want to go to a certain area.
Too bad you still had to go through Outlands
>>335917649
the overall artstyle for Warcraft hasn't changed at all since WC3, though. And armor is part of the art design.
>>335917670
Fuck you blizzdrone Legacy servers will make wow great again
>>335917735
>implying you'll even get into naxx
>>335917676
>Do random heroic for the day as a healer
>Get VC
>I'm a shaman
>In there for 2 hours
It was fun but man that early month of the expansion was fucking hell for me.
>>335917825
Fuck you Blizzhate Legacy servers is not worth it. Do you honestly see yourself playing non stop on a Legacy server for 2 years?
YOU MIGHT
Sage and report all gamergate Nostalrius threads. Do your part to stop this cancer from metastasizing.
>>335918310
> Do you honestly see yourself playing non stop on a Legacy server for 2 years?
Not that person, but if it's an actual vanilla legacy server that blizzard doesn't fuck up with "added flavoring" and they keep it as it is, but with bug fixes and extra balance, then yes. Would play it for more than 2 years.
>>335918656
Yet I bet that you are the kind of person who complains about 18 months of SOO and FOH
>>335918767
Vanilla has a lot of meaningful content. In retail the only important thing is the most recent raid unless you pvp.
>>335918951
Like what? End game is endgame and you will get fed up with it
>>335913080
I'd be okay with it if death knights were balanced and there was no dungeon finder
>>335917902
Sure I will
>Pick prot warrior
>Have tier set
Man that was hard :)
>>335919002
Leveling is actually the majority of the game in vanilla. Playing casually, it can take months to even get to endgame. Compare that to retail where you are sped through the leveling process and pushed into whichever raid came out most recently. I had 2 characters on nost, a level 60 and a level 55. I spent 25 days combined on those two and didn't even enter a raid, yet I was still satisfied with my experience.
>>335910536
He meant people playing Warlords/Legion would come to realize how shitty current WoW is compared to vanilla, despite how shit Vanilla itself was.
>>335913994
Someone doesn't seem to understand how broken 3.0 retadins were.
>>335918310
No but after I finish gearing rather than repeat mythics Id much rather continue progression on a Vanilla server
>>335909787
>Nothing more!!!
>>335917553
icebane helm, shoulders of the bold, adamantium guantlets croms war axe, shit nigga, I played too much BC.
>>335910832
>Not returning to classic games and appreciating them like fine wine after several years in your vidya cellar.
tbqh even if they do legacy realms they should do balance patches regardless. fuck, imagine a TBC server. everyone would play warlocks for DPS and shamans for healers because they just know what's good. leveling back then was a commitment to the class you picked, for the good or the bad.
>>335919002
In a vanilla I can level for weeks if I want to and not give a fuck while having more fun than end game in current wow. Even on shitty private servers. Have more fun finding a random green or blue that doesn't even belong for my class, then getting a mythic drop on WoD.
Same for communication. Made more groups, had more fun dicking around and made more friends on private vanilla servers than any other private server or expansion on retail.
It wasn't the best expansion technically wise, but there's something about it that works and many people agree to this.
>>335910090
I will play both. Send my garrison followers to play the game for me in retail and log in to Vanilla.
>>335921013
too bad followers have no impact on anything in Legion
>>335909534
>>335909787
>>335908776
I missed something, what happened?
I havent been following this for a while. Why is Mike Kern positioning himself as the ring leader of this thing now? He wasn't even part of Nost.
Why do people in these threads never talk about the issues with vanilla? I started in BC and I've played casually on legacy servers but Fucking hell. Do you people not remember trying to get 40 people together for a raid? How about spending forever running back in MC only to have 1 person leave? Or the total of maybe 3 guilds per server being able to do NAXX? Did any of you even see Naxx? Useless specs galore, pidgeon holded into 1 spec per class or being useless. Talents/skills fucking everywhere!
These are just some of the issues with vanilla. It's slow, clunky and unbalanced. I'm not saying WoD is good but seriously you think vanilla was any harder other then just a time sink? The boss mechanics certainly weren't difficult as much as it was getting people for the raid.
I seriously hope blizzard releases these servers and there's next to no one on them and people complain just the same as they did back then. That's literally going to happen and it's going to be hilarious.
>>335908776
inb4 they just arrest the people that show up
>>335921339
Because he wants his job at Blizzard back so he can use their money to make another bus
oh no fuck off, please don't tell me they'll make a partnership with them
blizz is gonna make money with vanilla, while the actual game continues to rot and these pirates are gonna get money out of this deal as well
and blizzdrones are gonna happily pay blizzard for an old game that should be free
>>335921339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60CXk503QsQ
>>335916807
you really think someone else is willing to fuck this?
1. Nostralius can no longer pay for their servers using donations, since the server host does not accept individual donations and if the Nost guys take it thats as if they're making profit from it
2. The only solution they thought up was for some magical Übermensch to pay the full price of the server hosting month per month, due on the 10th of every month. They announced this in the forums and had an open invitation for people to do it.
3. Nobody did it
4. Its literally time to pay up and they dont have the money
5. Nostralius magically gets "contacted" by English and French lawyers representing blizzard telling them to shut down their servers by the 10th. Quote: "or as long as the host lets us"
6. No images, screenshots, photos, copy-pasted text over these cease and desist "contacts"
7. Payday is up, blizzard shuts down their servers coincidentially at the same time.
8. Nost sends a sad letter to blizzard, riles up the fans, and promises to leak the source code for the servers.
9. To this day that hasnt happened. Its not like they're busy.
10. you're getting fucking played.
>>335921413
Because everything you mentioned except the fact some specs were useless literally only serves to make the game better.
We know that the game is unbalanced, but it always was and always has been. Doesn't mean the game is less fun.
We know the raids are technically less challenging, since the fights don't consist of as many mechanics as today. Still, the tools you as a player have to deal with the mechanics in vanilla compared to today are minuscule, which means the raids will still provide ample challenge. Also, in vanilla, the challenge of raids doesn't exclusively come from the actual instances alone, but from mandatory reputation farming, resist gear farming and consumable farming, things you practically have to do with a GUILD, TOGETHER WITH OTHER PLAYERS, to succeed.
>>335913635
>blew all his CDs before the bubble
>didn't run AFTER he bubbled
>didn't have grounding totem out
l2p
>>335922065
>Nostralius
It's NOSTALRIUS for fuck's sake
>>335916974
Metzen is the only cuck on the planet who fashioned his own bull.
Literally nothing happened yet you guys
Just because they agree to have a meeting, it doesn't mean anything
Nothing happened yet you guys
y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-yoou d-d-d-d-don't-t-t-t-t-t-t wa-a-a-a-a-a-ant t-t-that...
>>335913532
Sure it was fun running DK, War, Pala arena with 2x shadowmourne and healer legendary ;)
>>335922065
They already had the server fees paid for 3 months in advance, which was also the longest time you could pay in advance.
The thing about somebody else paying was to improve server hardware so that the server would run smoother.
>>335922065
blizzard confirmed the C&D
Back to /pol/
>>335921339
Kern just feels strongly about the situation and is in a position where he can personally do something because he knows Morhaime.
>>335921428
Kern's stated that he isn't interested in working at Blizzard again but he is interested in playing vanilla.
>>335921413
Yeah, because getting together with a bunch of people you liked to raid was so much worse than pushing a button on the raid finder and playing with randoms from another server you'll never see again and never talk to.
>>335908776
this is just a trap and blizzard is going to bust them for illegally using their property
>>335922119
Yeah never seeing the content and not being able to play what you want sure are good features.
The community was harmed by the streamlining but honestly WoW evolved because it had to. I'm not going to say all the changes were good but some were necessary as the internet culture changed.
Even if you went back you aren't going to get the same community you once had. People are different and the internets a whole has changed. It's part of the same reason that other MMOs still don't have a community despite being similar to vanilla WoW. It's sad but people have to recognize that it's never going to be the same.
>>335922597
You can talk to those people you know that right? You don't have to be an anti-social like them. Isn't cross realm grouping and communicating a thing now? What's stopping you from making friends with the randoms you que with?
>>335923003
Literally all that is needed to "see the content" is to socialize with other players and join a guild with even the slightest bit of ambition to raid.
If you don't socialize with other players there is no way at all to progress in Vanilla. You will hit 60 after a few months and hit a brick wall as thick as your autist skull.
And yes, never seeing some content is FUCKING good for the game, because it gives players something to aim for, always. If there is unbeaten content you still feel like you can progress your character, and thus, there is still a reason to play.
Rather than being a game with a clear idea and goal in mind, the game was molded over several years from whining shitters who would rather play single player games, and so that's what the game became. You saying "you can socialize with people on retail too!" doesn't hold any water at all, because the game doesn't require it. If a Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying game doesn't REQUIRE socialization, it's a bad game.
>>335923003
Did you even play Nost? The community was thriving. Even with 10k active people there were personalities and groups that stuck out and events/drama happened all the time
Why would Blizzdrones be on suicide watch? Wouldn't this be a good thing for everybody?
>>335923586
I knew people that played vanilla that saw all the content and never really spoke to anyone else. They got in the guild and showed up to raid. No personality, no conversations and no friendship. I don't see this as any different just because the game doesn't "require" it. Other then shot calling and cd announcing, which you do now in retail, nothing was mandatory. You made friends because you set out to not because they were mandatory.
As for goals aim for the top then. If you were the ambitious type person to begin with you would be trying to be the best that there is. When i played WoW I always aimed to be the best tank on my realm and pushed progression. It doesn't matter to me if raid finder is a thing or not. If I still played I would be in a top guild like I always was.
So there are always ways to look ahead and have goals and make friends. What's different is the people and the mentality players have nowadays. Sorry but vanilla isn't going to revert people magically back.
>>335924028
Yes casually because it was free and I was bored. Would I pay for it though? Probably not honestly. It had it's fair share of people and drama but honestly it doesn't even touch on how many people were playing vanilla. Official numbers of nost is a consensus of 2.2-3k average and peaking at 5-6k. These are numbers even in the forums that are public to see. Compared to vanilla per server that's about equal to or less then the average. So I'm not sure where people are getting 10k from. 2.2k Is a decent number don't get me wrong but it's not close to the total playerbase of vanilla
>>335925021
What are you even talking about?
Nostalrius had 3k people playing on LAUNCH and it literally only rose every day from there with an eventual peak of 15k online at the same time close to the end. These numbers were often posted both on the forums and on Nostalrius twitter, and Nostalrius enabled people to see the total current population number through the /who tab, so everyone who played knew how many people there were online at any given time.
Past October, the only time you'd see less than 6k people online was when the server had just restarted or during a bad hour of the day. A regular vanilla server back when it was the current game handled somewhere between 2.5 - 3k players simultaneously.
Post YFW you're NOT a Blizzcuck
>>335911425
Nice meme!
>>335914574
But these shitters aren't calling for WotLK, they want vanilla.
>call other blizzcuck for paying a Blizzard product they enjoy
>fight tooth and nail just so you could give your money to activision
the retardation of blizzdrones knows no bound
>>335925885
I'm posting about the numbers officially posted on the forums by players. There are conflicting numbers pretty badly. It does look like towards the end they got to 8k total between both factions. What I'm trying to say is isn't nost worldwide? The numbers aren't as insane as people keep making them out to be and some are even proven to be skewed. No they didn't hide them but they were certainly padded and several people have proven that. Vanilla obviously had way more players then nost ever will and legacy servers will never be as populated as original.
Honestly my whole point is not that many people actually want it and it's really not going to be the same as vanilla if blizzard releases it. Especially if the realms are at a cost. I just don't see official legacy servers hitting numbers that blizz would be satisfied with
>>335908776
Great to see, never touched WoW and I never plan to but everyone's been treating those vanilla server people like shit and it's nice to see them get their way.
>>335926012
>being a blizzcuck in this case would be someone who wants legacy servers and someone who plays the modern game
>>335926964
>officially
>by players
You're talking about people posting their results from the wowcensus addon? It would only ever give a rough estimate.
>>335926964
Took me 2 seconds to find +10k numbers from census.
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3641&start=220#p224685
And you could always do /who and see the 13k peaks.
>>335927136
Yes it's rough but it's multiple people posting similar numbers so it's a decent idea. I highly doubt they are just wrong by 50% of total population. It's probably within 10% if not lower of accuracy.
I've not been able to give info per region though. Since official legacy servers would be region locked that's going to nosedive the population a bit. Then splitting one pvp and pve option. I can see where they are skeptical that the numbers would be worth their time.
>>335925021
Vanilla servers were population capped at 1.5 or 2k and nost had upwards of 10k people online during peak hours and 6k not during peak hours
>>335927609
And in that same thread you posted they we're all bitching about Chinese gold farmers even on legacy servers. Or are we going to count those as real people that will play the blizzard version?
>>335927990
Towards the end sure and that's not region based since nost isn't locked so yeah blizzard still has them beat out by an insane amount. But no one takes any of that into consideration.
>>335908776
cant wait to metzen to tell them to fuck off live face to face. will they suicide after being rejected by their gods?
>>335928134
The point I was making is that the community was thriving more so than on any singular blizzard vanilla server back in 2005, because the population on nost was literally 5 times higher than what vanilla servers would physically hold
>>335928404
But not everyone on nost even spoke the same language so if you take that into consideration I wouldn't say it was. It wasn't like chinese were in guilds with Americans typically so the numbers would be less if you region split them.
>Vanilla servers only accessible if you have a game license for the most recent expansion and pay sub
>to fully emulate the Vanilla experience there is only two servers (PVP/PVE) and they are both running on 1990 era servers that crash all the time
Why do people hate options? No one is putting a gun to your head and making you play vannilla, and if you think this will result in less content for Legion than you are crazy. WoD has the largest dev team of any expac and it still managed to have the least amount of content. I think the reason for this is the "cinematic" leveling experience where every area needs to have a story. It really doesn't, some times there are just monster that need to have their shit pushed in. Not sure why every area needs to have a cinematic story.
>>335910471
>they already said that, why would they ever ever ever say it again
They're reinforcing their point. The backlash was huge. You're retarded.
>>335908776
I don't think we're gonna get legacy servers, because pristine servers don't negate new expansions, and with the help of nost team they could do them right making the old content harder and relevant again. I wish for a classic wow from vanilla to wotlk too, but while we wow addicts don't care about playing the same content for decades, blizzard does about selling expansions.
>>335910832
Basically played melee for 13 years straight minus a year hole, good games last forever
>>335913015
That faggot Bufern was one of the LOUDEST threatening over and over to unsub when WoD was announced to launch with no flying in Draenor.
I guess it's already obvious to ignore any bnet forum posters, but that dude's opinion especially means jack fucking shit.
I would not pay a monthly subscription to play on vanilla servers.
>>335910312
Doubt they'll work there, but honestly the only good that could come from this is improving the current game with philosophy and design that has been dropped for 8-10 years depending on where your opinion on the matter lies. Honestly I prefer vanilla's standards and even think TBC was the beginning of the end times. But, I'm a DK-fag so not being my main will take some getting used to.
>>335913080
I loved Wrath, I'd love it if they made different servers for BC, Vanilla, and Wrath
https://www.wired.com/2008/11/valve-tricked-h/
ITS HAPPENING
>>335930994
Fucking if they got even 50k more subscriptions for ONE MONTH they'd triple their investment on legacy servers. Actually releasing them is even better PR than vaguely referencing it, and it's the biggest MMO thing happening right now.
Econ major here, they'd be fools not to do it. Absolute fucking fools with terrible marketing execs. It is VERY clear they don't know how to generate money anymore.
>>335930994
blizz makes more money off of subs than of creating new expansions
>>335911425
you really think people only play that because of memes? it's still doing pretty large numbers today, and you have to pay for it.
>>335921306
Nostalgia server got blown up.
Everyone got mad.
Blizzard actually noticed and didn't say a plain fuck you.
Stockholm syndrome hit the once mad people.
Now they're sucking Blizzard's cock in the hope of a legacy server.
>>335910729
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vR20QH5UHoM
>>335910148
>>335910234
>>335911156
>>335916807
Metzen will be too busy snorting coke and prepping the bull to worry about the meeting
>>335911832
> they might hire them or use them as "advisors" for current WoW,
This is 100% what I am expecting.
>>335932316
Valve is based though, Blizzard isn't.
>>335932660
Good analogy my friend!
>>335926964
>A game marketed for 3 years by professionals with server support, GMs and consistent advertisement got more players than an illegal private server that many people have cited not playing on "moral grounds" but have cited interest in legacy servers
A better estimate for legacies are the amount of people that signed the petition for it, which was about a quarter million.
As in, a significant percentage of their current playerbase/past playerbase. Any amount of new players generates more players and more money. Whats so hard to understand about this?
If I could gain access to current and vanilla servers with a single sub, I would sub.
With two different patches to play on at the same time, there would be a lot of content.
>>335908776
>tfw you didn't fall for the WoD or Legion meme
>tfw you leveled with your roommate on Nostalrius and enjoyed the leveling process more than anything in WoW post Ulduar
>tfw understood why Blizzard shut it down and didn't hold any bitter feelings towards them
Would be even better if they brought Nost back but it wouldn't be too much of a bummer if they didn't.
>>335932660
guy laughs like a quilboar
>I will always prefer Vanilla WoW to the shit they have now
**tips fedora**
>>335908776
>their not going to reply
>Their not gonna acknowledge nost team
>mark himself won't reply
>they are only meeting for pr
>they are just gonna meet to apologize
>they are only putting up a few servers
>they won't last long
>they are only more popular than normal retail cause they are new and a novelty
>with this new expansion people will play retail again!
The cycle of the ever moving goal post.
>>335933314
who are you quoting?
>>335933314
>implying even Gone Home and Life is Strange aren't better games than current WoW
I don't really care about legacy servers but they could milk this for all it's worth, make you pay a double sub fee so you have access to retail and classic.
Also the combination of the movie and people shitting their beds over this legacy server business is the perfect time to act on it.
>>335910921
>What you don't get is that they can literally hire the Nos team
What you don't get is you think this is a simple issue to do. It's not, for both legal and technical reasons.
>>335933314
>MMO versus cooperative single player RPG
M'lady. True sovereigns adventure on their own .............
>>335933479
There is literally nothing wrong with teenage angst simulator.
>>335933603
Holy shit i just realized that since every expansion is essentially Warcraft 1-3. They could just role out servers to sync with the movies, as tie ins
>>335933653
I want to impregnate Kate
>>335933618
They're masquerading legal and technical issues as the problem when it's really a matter of unknown profit margins.
The reason they're even discussing it is because there was a huge outcry for it, which means more potential profits.
Companies have backlogs saved of old content. The hardest part would be integrating it with current b.net.
>>335932848
The fact that the illegal server was known just the same as live because people already played it. It's not like people didn't know about legacy servers, they've been known for years.
The petition doesn't mean Jack shit and you know it. Over half those people wouldn't play a legacy server. I personally know dozens of people who signed it and spammed it on Facebook that have never even played nor will ever play WoW. I'm fine with legacy servers but muy problem is you people think it will bee the same as it used to be. Great numbers, a fantastic community and challenging good content when it won't be. None of you look at vanilla with anything other then nastolgia glasses. You aren't seeing that it had it's issues and people aren't the same anymore. If you think 10k people are willing to pay 15$ a month for shitty already done content you're wrong. Sure you'll have some and for awhile maybe even a decent amount but it's not sustainable. When people complete the content what then?
Look at it from a business aspect other then admitting WoD sucked. The about of time and dedication to those legacy servers versus how much they will make off it just isn't worth it at all. At this point they are better off doing WoW 2.0.
Would you guys rather go to a pro-GamerGate/pro-SJW and feminism seminar for 5 hours or play retail wow for 2 weeks straight? killing yourself is not an option
>>335908776
They are going to arrest them just like Valve lured the guy who hacked in and stole a prerelease version of HL2 with the promise of a job offer.
>>335933918
I had to fucking attend a women's focus group for 2 hours when I was told it was a video game demo. 20 literally sjw women that pretending to know anything about gaming talking about what they thought was strong female characters based on artwork. Funny thing was this was blizzard artwork and they thought overwatch wasn't diverse enough ( they also didn't know what it was).
Never fucking again. 2 weeks retail wow. I'd even pay for it.
>>335934094
>guy shows up to Valve HQ
>Gabe just sits on him until the police arrive
>"Hopefully it will have been worth the weight"
>>335933832
I never heard of nost till it shut down. You'd be surprised, most people don't follow every single private server, im sure a lot of the most dedicated wow players knew, but i haven't touched thr game in 3+ years, and it's not like i read Wow private server weekly. Also private servers have certain stigmas attached. And i agree half the signers won't play, but there is also a few hundred thousand that still won't know about it till it's advertised, and many people too lazy, or think signing petitions is a waste.
>>335933782
Lewd. She is a good christian girl.
>>335933832
I literally had more fun leveling in Nost than I had with any of my characters on retail.
The world seemed like it was designed to promote team work and world pvp.
I will say, quest items only being lootable by 1 person in the party is fucking stupid and make teaming up completely pointless for some quests.
>>335911827
delete this right now
>>335934263
who's that guy?
Hello citizens of /v/ video games. I am not a Blizzard insider but I do have a question for you haha. If we-Blizzard decided to make World of Warcraft require only the purchase of the boxed copy of the title without subscription fee, would you return to Legion (tm)?
>>335909787
or they can just continue the server, but have it as a different branch from Blizzard, you still have to pay goyim bux to get in it tho
>>335934320
Someone who /v/ believes is extremely upset over the MMO he's involved with having more than 5 million subs for more than a decade.
what a FAILURE, lol
>>335910681
>le eating shit
I'm 16 and my opinion is superior: the argument
>>335934373
No.
I don't have the time.
>>335908776
>Implying they're not all going to be gathered so the police can take them to jail for running an illegal operation.
>>335913635
>tfw leveled a holy paladin alt at the tail end of BC and dominated in BGs using a mix of ZA/BT holy gear and karazhan ret gear
>weapon was terrok's quill
man they fixed ret paladins quick
also this
>>335922128
>>335908776
Can someone explain to me why Blizzadrones should be on suicide watch? Why would anyone be aganist this, its not like its being forced upon people
>>335932660
wait, why isn't blizzard reporting subscriber numbers anymore?
>>335908776
I literally do not give a shit.
>>335934415
and what's his name?
>>335910349
>Mark Ken never seen again
We can only hope.
>>335934518
>bait them to come to america
It's perfect.
I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet.
>>335934373
No, the price of the expansion and subscription isn't the problem. The problem is that it stopped being fun after Ulduar and it stopped being bearable after MoP.
>>335934683
>Why would anyone be aganist this.
This is /v/ we are talking about. Is there anything everyone's ever been for?
I think their main fear is that it will steal players from the already dead servers in retail. Though this is Admittedly contrary to their rationalization that no one will play it. Or the arguement that it will never happen, begging the question why they care enough to shit up the threads if they honestly believe that.
>>335934789
they have to rely on foreign account numbers more now to pad their stock reports so blizzard doesn't lose tons of operating capital
It's just going to be some operation paperclip shit with Blizzard picking off some members of the Nostalgia developers.
It's obvious Blizzard has issues with appeasing their older players so having these guys on the team would give them a fresh pair of eyes and minds
>>335934863
Because it's fucking terrible.
>>335934863
how terribly unfunny
>>335934972
>This is /v/ we are talking about.
It isn't just /v/. On the official forms there are tons of people telling vanilla fags to fuck off.
I think the logic is that neo-blizzard already takes over a year per raid or expansion. So if they also try to run vanilla servers, the wait time for actual content would get even longer.
>>335935005
>>335934789
What if Garrisons were just a ploy to hide how dead the severs are these days?
>>335935123
just like Vanilla WoW
>>335908776
Good way to get the idiots in the same room as you so you can slap them with a lawsuit.
>>335935260
burn
>>335908776
reminds me a bit of the gate to Auschwitz
>>335935273
you don't really believe they would do something so pointless, do you?
>>335910681
A game can't be literal shit though can it? And, whether you think WoW is a bad game or not, I am having lots of fun :)
>>335935420
well, there are definitely jews behind those gates
>>335935260
Vanilla wow is garbage but it's easily better than WoD/Legion
>tfw showing off my Tabard of the Protector while claiming vanilla is shit
>tfw tbc/wotlk preulduar was the golden age of wow
>>335935123
Well what do you expect from a br who stole the art style? Shit he once thought that Nintendo would stop making consoles a week or so before the wii u was announced.
>>335935260
Then surely Blizzard wouldn't humor it, oh wait, they're meeting with the people responsible for the legacy servers "for some reason".
Wow so terrible :^)
Why would anyone want to play Vanilla again?
Most of the classes were shit, and the content is literally a decade old. The only people I can see wanting it now are people who never actually played it then.
A pristine server would be leagues better than legacy servers.
>>335935657
>WotLK pre-Ulduar
>Didn't like Ulduar
>>335935657
The fuck's wrong with Ulduar you dip shit.
>>335908776
>P=PETITIONS DON'T DO SHIT
>>335935801
>>335935861
Ulduar was my favorite raid, I should have clarified since I didn't want to say post-ulduar. TOC was garbage and ICC was pretty cool but everything after that mostly sucked.
>>335911425
I play OSRS, I didn't start playing it because of any other influences outside of that I just wanted to play OSRS because I like OSRS.
>>335913080
I'm fine with either Vanilla, TBC or Wotlk. But if I get to choose one, I'd choose Vanilla. While I did play WoW in Vanilla. I only did so for a year or so, then TBC came out. I'd love to experience Vanilla from the beginning for a longer period of time. My favourite time in the game was in Wotlk though, although that's probably because I had a guild I raided with, I quit the game when my guild died. Played early on during Cata when there were still some remnants of old wow community remaining despite everything, but then my server died out, and I quit the game. Played again for a short period of time by the end of Cata, and leveled to max level on MoP (within one week), and then I quit the game permanently, haven't touched it since.
Arwenz from Bloodhoof(EU) and Androme from The Venture Co(EU) here.. In case anyone recognizes me :^)
>>335935995
Yeah and MoP was my favorite expansion until 5.3 ruined it
>Try something completely new with your story
>whiny kids go "WAAAH KUNG FU PANDA WAAH"
>Expansion gets ORCED
One simple reason why vanilla is better than modern wow
-it has content outside of end-game.
>>335933918
i would easily play retail wow compared to that other option. i havent played wow since the end of 2014, but i can enjoy literally enjoy any shitty game as long as my friends are playing to.
>>335908776
> blizzdrones on suicide watch because me and a couple hundret thousand others will give blizzard money
>>335936152
MoP was pretty cool at the beginning. I liked the Thunder Isle but quit the game right as SoO came out.
Cataclysm was actually pretty fun in the beginning as well.
>>335933479
Gone home and LiS really aren't similar, anon
>>335933782
>Kate
Shit taste shakka brah, real men want to fuck Chloe
>>335915006
>proven
I guarantee
GUARANTEE
that not even half of the people who signed that petition will actually sub if they make a vanilla server
>>335933918
Being on /v/ is like that anyway except it's the nega anti-sjw version
>>335936235
this I dont understand why are blizzard fans on suicide watch they are literally getting more content for free ?
>>335936406
but I want to let Kate's hair down andcuddle withher
>>335936080
TBC is the good vanilla. They finally got a lot of shit right, plus area and one of my favorite battle grounds. Also has the best 5 and 10 man experience.
>>335936447
you are right
cause a lot of them are already subbed
>>335934518
>false imprisonment and arrests
Well, OC cops are the most corrupt in America so it could happen
>>335934863
Nerfnow is a shill for corporations and companies and always supports the retarded business decisions of others
>>335922065
They said they were going to make server clusters to have phased zones and improve the performance and lag and on top of that they were working on TBC
If it was a money issue blizzard would have pointed it out
This whole thing seems like a PR For upcoming legacy servers
Im also wandering if nostalrius guys were actually working for blizz
>>335911000
>implying
>>335908776
have fun
>>335936497
Theres the assumption that resources may be diverted from Legion for this if it continues.
>>335936406
>Shakka brah
I didn't know Gunner posted on /v/. Must not be up to much since MNC is dead
>>335912759
>tf2 clone bait harder mate
:-)
>>335908776
This long, drawn-out song and dance to garner more attention so when they inevitably begin using "legacy servers" it will have the biggest possible pool of schmucks willing to drop cash for a ten year old game, is quite amusing to watch.
>>335936679
Why did you have to reopen that wound?
>>335936669
Who cares.
>>335936669
because all the artists, level designers, animators, etc. will go to the legacy server team and then do what?
>>335936510
I won't argue that TBC is probably considered by many to be on equal footing if not better than vanilla, and in many ways it did improve on alot of areas that vanilla lacked in. But my primary concern is that MOST of the content in the game is vanilla content, and it just hurts me so much knowing there's so much content out there that's completely irrelevant now because there's a new expansion. And that's mainly due to the fact that WoW, unlike RuneScape, is a ''linear'' game, if you understand what I mean. Every expansion makes the content in the old expansion irrelevant. RuneScape on the other hand, you're always on the same continent, with content being added to the areas everyone is familiar with continually. To this day (last time I played, two years ago), I spend the majority of my time in the peaceful beginning kingdoms of the game, Falador, Varrock, Ardougne, and the surrounding areas, as I did when I first started playing RuneScape. But on WoW, that was not the case.
>wanted to play wow when I was younger and it was at it's prime
>parents didn't want to fork over their credit card information and were scared i'd get addicted
it hurts
>>335936497
same reason why if you don't like vanilla it means you like modern wow.
nostalrius refugees are a funny bunch.
>>335936152
>Purpled
>ORCED
Jesus christ, fuck off cuckposters.
>>335936728
HIOH, EVERYBODY, WELCOME TO SPUNKY COLA ARENA! REMEMBER, DRINKING SPUNKY EVERY DAY ENSURES YOU HAVE ALL THE PEP TO BE YOUR BEST...while trying to quit drinking Spunky everyday leads to depression, apathy, anxiety, fatigue, intense hunger, paranoia, and insomnia...plus you might become pregnant or plan to become pregnant.
>>335936831
why would they go to the legacy servers if the legacy servers are already made 10 yeears ago?
What new content they want to make in Vanilla WoW I thought you guys want Vanilla WoW and not VAnilla WoW 2.0 2016
>>335937092
dude I was just asking a loaded question to lead you to the point
>>335936974
I'm so, so sorry.
Let's hope we can all experience vanilla, and possibly TBC and/or Wotlk again.
>yfw nostalrius and this whole debacle was just clever advertisement for blizzard legacy servers
I hope this kills Legion. I would be so fucking happy.
Even if Blizz does make vanilla servers, why would anybody be on suicide watch?
People who don't give a shit about vanilla can keep playing current content and have the option to try the vanilla shit.
Vanillafags can have their vanilla content for however long it will keep their interest.
Blizzard gets money
Mark Kern gets more GG idiots to suck his cock
Everyone wins
>calling people blizzdrones when you're the one begging and willing to pay for a vanilla server
top kek
>>335908776
Hopefully Blizzard doesn't fuck this up and opens TBC legacy servers not shitty Vanilla servers
>>335936974
I mean, if you played some other mmo instead, then yea you probably would have a much better time in WoW.
But if you played other games it might have been for the better. Not everyone looks back on WoW with glory.
How the fuck did Mark Kern get his name attached to this?
He's just some fuckup that jumped on the bandwagon when it started to get popular. He didn't do fucking anything at all, besides make one of the hundreds of thousands of youtube videos on the subject.
Meeting with the talented guys from Nostalrius that managed to make the server function I understand, but not this money burning chucklefuck.
I suspect a month after private servers go up they need to be taken down because Mark spent the entire budget on a custom helicopter that will never get used.
>>335937398
NO PLEASE I DON'T WANT TO FARM FOR THE DRAGON I DON'T WANT TO FARM FOR THE DRAGON AGAIN AAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>>335921952
I am.
>>335937458
He got into the spotlight when he supported GG and they are desperate for any washed up REAL GAME DEV that supports them
>>335912967
>more players is always better
Stick to battlefield
>they're going to murder them all
>its going to be an IRL Red Wedding
Ok so they're bringing back vanilla servers, that's pretty cool actually.
But how are they planning on getting the exact same vanilla community? did they get hold of some of that John Titor technology to establish a time-datalink back to 2004 internet?
It will never be the same without Chuck Norris jokes in barrens, and some faggots regurgitating them will never have the same impact if you ask me.
>>335922065
I don't think anyone in this entire thread has any problems with any of that.
We just want to see legacy. The people on 4chan aren't the people who whine and wail on twitter about some cuck saying cuck things, we don't care, we just want legacy servers.
>>335937773
Chuckled.
>>335912967
That would be garbage.
Few minutes into the game and it would be Ults 24/7.
Why do blizzdrones not want legacy servers to happen?
It's like ordering vanilla icecream somewhere and a guy walks up and starts yelling and screaming at you for wanting a different flavor of icecream to his.
>>335937813
Nost had the community and it wasn't a time machine
>>335937813
never saw a single chuck norris joke in all my time in wow. not everyone played on the reddit server I guess, lucky me.
>>335937062
Now you're doing it to me too.
This isn't a very good feel.
>>335937939
Why do you assume people don't want them to happen?
I don't care either way but even I can see that from a business standpoint they'd have to do one for every expansion or else they admit that something went wrong somewhere.
>>335937813
barrens on nost was just as obnoxious as you remember, possibly even more so since barrens chat is a meme at this point. While leveling to 60 on nost and periodically flying in/out of xroads I literally saw the same names regurgitating old jokes and arguing about politics over and over and over - either they had an alt sitting in barrens just to shitpost or they stayed level 20 for the rest of their gaming lives.
>>335938046
Wow outdates reddit.
>>335938046
This predates Reddit.
Even predates 4chan.
The only way to save WOW is to bring back the Night Elf Mohawk commercial.
>>335912515
>tfw Nostfags feel the need to remind Blizzcucks that they're playing a shitty game
>tfw there's no reason for the arguments between these two parties but they persist for w/e reason
>tfw there will still never be a licensed Legacy server
>tfw current WoW will continue to suck, but get enough subs for them to justify making more
>these threads will never end.
God forbid a Legacy server was made, Nostfags. Why even associate with the current playerbase if your main goal is to be put into a isolated environment with like-minded players away from the undesirables?
>>335938142
Can you still get mohawk grenades in retail?
>>335910536
But the thing is, you guys are such a small minority that it's not profitable for them to use the resources to make this happen.
They're trying to run a business. They're not going to do something that's going to cost them money than what they'd make in return.
You guys need to do what we did with SWG. Accept the fact that what's done is done and move on.
Do I miss the vanilla days? Fuck yeah I do. Tanks actually leading groups through dungeons and raids, having to actually think, use crowd control and whatever. But I know those times are over and there's nothing I or anyone can do to bring them back.
You WoW nostalgiafags are the worst of any breed I have seen in any MMO I've seen that has died off. Even the EQ2 community didn't cry as much as you guys are. They just moved on when the game was no longer in a state that was for them.
>>335938234
not for years
>>335934863
What? Vanilla team fortress was how the game was originally designed, i never fucking get this, why are people so in favour of art being changed? why shouldn't people be able to play vanilla wow, why the fuck shouldn't tf2 have vanilla options, if i looked hard enough i could find the line work of great drawings so why the fuck shouldn't i be able to see the linework that led to the creation of modern wow?
>>335937939
Combination of echochamber mixed with being absolute faggots.
Some "real" reasons they could cite would be resources being diverted from legion, or losing giuld/raid members to the lure of legacy, but the actual reason is far simpler: they are stupid and gay.
>>335938240
Here's the thing, companies might make an investment in something that doesn't make them money directly, if blizard gets the backing of the customer that gives them some brownie point they can use to get away with some pretty shady shit, valve's a master at this
>Vanilla servers don't have the Dustwallow Marsh update
>>335910492
You guys are forgetting that vanilla isn't where WoW hit its peak. It was WoTLK, which quite honestly was no different than how the game is played today. The only difference is gearing up to be able to raid has become much more casualized, and is no where near as time consuming. The system in place for WoTLK was pretty horrible, BTW.
>>335937940
>>335938046
>>335938079
Community means more than just "people to play with".
Be honest here, did you guys really play vanilla back in 2004? because there's no way the community is even similar, for starters no one would have told you to "go back to ribbit" right away, mostly because it didn't exist yet, and it also started relatively small when it did.
>>335938710
>Vanilla servers don't have the Azshara update
>>335933832
>>335926964
>>335925021
All of your posts are ''anecdotal'' evidence that you claim means Legacy servers will not be populated.
This person is literally a Blizzard shill, an experienced and good one.
>>335938076
>Why do you assume people don't want them to happen?
Because so many of them are buttmad on mmochampion/reddit/bnet. It's been a bandwagon for awhile, since the nost shutdown publicity when they all were posting "good, those pirates" and offering their half-assed legal analysis of why private servers hurt the community, etc.
Then it evolved into dismissive attitudes with the petition, mark kern (lol), and then the blizzard response.
Now it has morphed into full on denial. It's all standard fanboy type forum behavior and shouldn't be terribly surprising.
>>335938561
No wonder its so shit then.
>>335937939
> Why do blizzdrones not want legacy servers to happen?
It started when people started laughing at nostlariuskeks for their server closing so these refugees assumed if you do this you must must also be supporting blizzs descission to close the server wich also means that you must be supporting every descission blizz makes wich must also means that you're a blizz shill. Somehow this idiot hurricane developed into you're either pro vanilla or pro blizzard, or to quote Bush Jr. "Are you with us, or are you with the enemy?"
It's the same simpleton behaviour as when people point you at reddit whenever you have a diffirent opinion. Except this is just a degree more stupid because, hey, these are the people who enjoyed vanilla after all.
>>335938730
ToC and ToGC were the beginning of the end.
Even if it gave us Jaraxxus.
WoD's full go home
>>335938879
Was there an Azshara update before Cata? I was talking about the update in BC.
I killed Kel'thuzad in vanilla. I mean, Naxx was without a doubt the hardest raid, but still only mmo hard. It wasn't so hard that like only 0,1% of people would have the genetic composition required to succeed.
Just because only 0,1% (or whatever figure is thrown around) of the playerbase could be arsed to raid Naxxramas, doesn't mean that the rest didn't have the opportunity, so I don't understand the basis of the argument.
It was great fucking content and one of the reasons was that you had to be absolutely competent to participate in it. I think it was a nice gesture from blizzard to create a challenge for the most passionate part of their playerbase. It's not like there wasn't a huge swathe of casual content outside of Naxxramas.
In fact, if it wasn't as hard as it was, I'm fairly sure the guild I played with for so long would never have bothered to persevere from MC through Naxx for like 500 evenings over two years. I just don't see the appeal of sticking with a game where development time is focused towards the part of the playerbase that don't really give a fuck about succeeding at the core game to begin with.
>>335938961
>not naxx rehash and a vehicle fight
kill yourself wrathbaby
>>335934863
You now know that SJW's are corporate and government projects to protect corporate and government interests through social pressure.
>>335938873
I played in 2004. Are you baiting or stupid? I can't tell.
Obviously a community is more than people to play with, but just because time has passed and the memes are different doesn't mean that the barrens chat wasn't just as obnoxious on nost as it was in retail.
Nost wasn't perfect but was as close to retail vanilla as it's been in terms of community and feeling like apart of things. Granted 12k is a lot more than 3500 or so the server was overstuffed, but if you were a douche people would know you and avoid you.
A /vg/ nost guildmember ninja'd the ZG tiger and was shunned by other guilds afterward.
>People bragging about playing in 2004
>Game was released in November 2004
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BLIZZBROS!!
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR! THOSE NOSTKEKS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BTFO!
WHY BLIZZBROS?! WHY?!
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGJHSDG
>>335938981
wut?
>>335938981
(you)
>>335939251
>A literal 1 room raid
>group finder patch
No, it was definitely TOC.
>>335911425
>Oldschool WoW never really left an impression on people. It was always kinda bland. Even people who love WoW should admit this.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>335908776
Theyre keeping the vanilla shit for when people are genuinely sick of their expansions.
WoD was already dry in terms of subscriptions but I think Legion will be the final nail in the coffin, it looks like one big patch, bringing next to nothing new to the table. There's literally nothing I'm excited about in it.
Legion will be the same garbage as WoD, but once its done with its first and last content patch they'll announce the vanilla servers, hyping it up as if its some sort of triumph of the fanbase even though its pretty much the cheapest way they can keep the show rolling and totally plays into their hand.
>>335939612
Your laughter doesn't make it any less true.
Cling to your dried shit while people lick up the fresh stuff.
>>335922065
>>335922065
>Payday is up, blizzard shuts down their servers coincidentially
>coincidentially
blizzcucks man
blizzcucks
>>335939240
Raiding in vanilla was mostly about how much you wanted to bother with raid times and the learning curve. The whole affair was a fairly silly raid for gear so you can raid for gear treadmill. The whole thing ended with not a lot of people seeing the end raids because you couldn't skip raid tiers like you could being a freshly leveled dunce in WotLK and beyond. It was way more fun to fuck around in PvP and BGs since their was no gear requirement to participate.
>>335939449
Who /Christmas 2004/ here?
>>335938981
>meanwhile on Kronos 2
>mark kern, the guy whose wife actually cheated on him with a black man
kek
>>335940159
If he is a confirmed cuck why does he dislike current wow?
It's literally bull prepping - the game at this point.
>>335917107
It would be WOD but with a level cap at 60.
>>335940282
the twist is that you were the cuck all along
>Noscucks calling drones blizzcucks
>While literally begging blizzard on their knees to let them take their money
Jesus fuck just play on K2 or anything that will pop up every few weeks
>>335940042
and a pvp fight wasn't
>stun spam
>heal for 3 hours
>fights didn't lasted 10 hours
I would play vanilla with LFG
Can just spam dungeons as a healer
>>335940068
i was also from 2004 december, however, i altered the passwords/emails to random garbage words so it would be impossible to re-open the account no matter what I did so I can't post proof.
>>335940159
tell us more, hopefully with sources
>>335940087
>waiting almost 3 hours to farm mats for 6 hours to do a raid for 5 hours for a chance blue boots
>>335940678
Sorry blizzdrone, that shit is not what the game is about
>>335910594
It was definitely a more hardcore game.
Vanilla WoW leveling actually took some effort, now you can get boosted to 85 or whatever and just do whatever fucking easy quests you need to until level cap.
I played on Kronos for a bit and got a shaman and warrior to 30 and it took time. You can easily dump 2+ hours on a single level, even when you're being efficient. Dungeons actually require people to pay attention since the game wasn't simplified into this mindless mess.
I kind of prefer TBC to Vanilla myself, but you know, you still had to do the Vanilla content to get access to the TBC content.
>>335940812
>still somehow better than WoD
how is vanilla, which is admittedly shitty, still leagues better than WoD or legion?
>>335911000
>>Microtransaction store
I love the idiots who keep repeating this and have no idea what it actually means.
>>335937939
In their mind it would take away from their nonexistent content.
>>335940812
>5% chance for drop you need
>hunter needs it
>>335908776
>mfw they're all arrested on the spot the moment they enter the building
>>335941004
>be one of two tanks for UBRS
>all I'm there for is Draconian Deflector as my last piece of fire resist so I can go into Molten Core
>Get to the end
>It drops
>Lose roll to an elemental shaman
You have no idea how angry I was. I literally Alt+F4'd the second the roll completed and I cancelled my sub right there.
>>335940925
Legion is better than WoD though now all they have to do is not fuck up endgame like they did with WoD and they'll be fun
Yes Wow was shit but legion is miles better than Vanilla
>>335941159
>Legion is better than WoD though
>>335941004
>>335941138
>be tank
>need items
>not just reserving the items and telling the dps to suck it or find another group
>not just picking only dps that cant use your items
I ran BRD for Ironfoe and UBRS for Felstriker. After less than 5 runs of each I had both because I just master looted them to me.
>>335934372
anally devastated
>>335941227
I haven't played since Dragon Soul released in Cataclysm. wtf is this shit?
>>335941227
>having over 100% chance
sounds inefficient
>>335941462
facebook game that blizzard is currently passing off as 'content'
>>335941474
You'll notice the extra percentage goes into a roll for a bonus bag.
>>335934819
Not that guy, but it's Metzen
>>335941462
mgs: peace walker outer ops
>>335941293
>Leveling a Warrior and just looking for DPS for a dungeon
>mfw DPS Warriors and Ret Paladins try to join
>>335908776
>inb4 they all get arrested
>>335941293
>be a ninja faggot proud of it
kill yourself and make humanity a favor
>>335941462
A feature every fucking hated is making a comback in Legion and caused a huge outcry.
Blizzcucks never learn, sadly.
>>335908776enjoy paying 15$ a month for 10 year old content :^)
>>335921952
I think they look good together. She is no super model but she isn't ugly either
>>335941672
>mling shit to yourself that was explicitly stated to be reserved for you
>join group anyway and get mad about it
you are the literal definition of a cuck
>>335941227
>followers missions
WAKE ME UP
>WAKE ME UP
WAKE ME UP
>WAKE ME UP
WAKE ME UP
>WAKE ME UP
>>335941227
You need to do world quests before you can afford to send missions.
It's not as annoying as WoD where you log into all your alts every day to do chores.
If you finish some world quests, you can end your play session by putting a few missions on the burner while you sleep/do other shit.
There is a lot of hyperbole over it. It's possible they fuck it up, but from what I saw on alpha it was a bunch of steps in the right direction.
>>335921952
That's a fucking grade-B+ milf bro
>>335941227
nigga did you read the post i never said Facebook game is good
>Quest are great
>Dungeons and Raids are amazing
>Professions are actually fun again
They even improved the mini game by making you do the quest But you wont give a shit about that so let me answer your post with another screenshot
>>335941227
Follower misisons unlock world quests for you.
>doing 5 mans as a tank warrior
>not taking only priest healers and mage/warlock dps
>>335911425
>What are your thoughts on Blizzards approach to Legacy Servers for World of Warcraft and the Nostalrius incident?
Mod_Kieren
>I would love to see them do it.
For us it has clearly been a massive success, and ultimately, the best feeling when being part of a games development team is seeing the players happy.
Whether it works for them, or what their internal structures are, I don't know - so who knows if they can pull it off.
The situation strikes me as fairly similar, in that there were a large amount of players who were disengaging with Runescape 3 as they didn't like the direction the game was taking (RS3 added a new combat system and interface etc). They wanted an old version so the company listened and provided it.
>>335921952
I've seen worse being the object of desire
>>335942014
>>335941925
>world quests
Copypasted shit from D3 which is going to get benched by gear you get from LFR and heroics. It baffles me retailcucks still struggle to see that trainwreck called Legion coming
>>335942053
do you like priests?
>>335916614
people who dont play dont give a shit
Daily reminder that if you don't have an active subscription for WoW, you are not in any position to whine about how "bad" retail supposedly is. It's band waggoning ship jumpers like you who stop Blizzard from making the game better, because they need ressources and money to design and develope content. By unsubscribing and/or playing on pirate servers, you are essentially stealing Blizzards money and throwing the dev team into a vicious circle where they can produce ever less and less content, which you nostards then complain about even though it was you that caused the shortage of content.
Is WoW in the best shape it has ever been? No. Are there legitimate criticisms to be uttered about both the quality and quantity of content? Sure, but it's mainly because of petulant little children like you who always point the finger at others (in this case Blizzard) instead of just looking into the mirror for once and realizing that maybe - just maybe - YOU are the ones who have killed the game and reduced Blizzards ressources by being egoistical fucking self-centered entitled brats who think they immediately have to pull the money plug the moment that something doesn't go their way.
So unless you are subscribed to the game, please spare us your rethoric. Nobody cares about a bunch of unloyal traitors who, in reality, were never truly part of the community to begin with.
>>335912759
I really really like that pic! Mind if I save it?
>>335942267
Is this pasta from the forums?
>>335942267
Almost none of the money made from wow is put back into wow. They use they money for all their other games.
>>335939449
I don't think anybody actually played. It was unstable for weeks at release.
>>335941887
>Severely outgear most intstances and mostly did shitty 5 or 10 mans for fun to get friends or guildies alts leveled up
>had full raid setups for Arms, Fury, and Protection
>Had better offspec gear than some guilds mainspec guys had
>Usually just tanked in partial fury gear in instances
>tfw I was a legend on my server
But I was really just a college dropout
>>335942297
PM'ed you.
>>335908776
http://www.strawpoll.me/10053520/r
Vote time niggers
also
>no one wants to play after 6 months!
Nost's progression system made 6-8 months be only 2-3 dungeon raids(About the time BWL was finished) while still not accounting for
>ZF
>AQ40
>Naxx
>>335917553
literally me but i was a forsaken.
>>335939449
I was in the beta and I actually knew people in the closed Alpha.
>>335941293
>Tank
>going after rouge/fury weapon
You are retarded
>>335942364
>opinion I disagree with
>"OMG IT MUST BE A PASTA OR A TROLL XD"
>>335917553
>tfw I ran heroics daily for literally 2 months until I finally got a Sun Eater
It was suffering.
>>335942556
>7 confirmed retailcucks on /v/
Emberassing tbqh
BLizzdrone here
never saw anything wrong with the legacy, but like most servers knew it would go eventually, legal reasons and such
knew not to get too attached, but hey i'd pplay vanilla wow again if they made the their own legacy servers but they had already said no multiple times so i didnt care as much
>>335942689
It's the third time I saw this post today and the whole talking ot "traitor" and shit make it pretty obvious shitposting
I just want Blizzard to acknowledge they are massive fuck-ups and this kills Legion.
>>335942820
Excalibur wow is more than 6 years old
>>335942689
Wait. Did you actually write that?
Because damn anon. You're blaming people for no longer paying money for something they don't like, which is like seven levels of retarded. That's literally the only recourse a consumer has in making sure things go their way.
>never truly part of the community to begin with
That part threw me off, because it seems like something that you heard on the forms whenever someone would complain. It's a pretty shitty mindset, one that turns it into a us vs them when it shouldn't be.It literally doesn't matter though because it is actual copypasta bait
>>335918310
I honestly think the best use of the legacy servers is just quick nostalgia trips.
WoW has become a facebook game.
It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have an alternative when there wasn't anything to do. If there was true progression like there used to be in Legion then you're literally locked out from raiding for a good amount of time.
If you had a guild, you could make a guild on a vanilla or TBC server and experience the content as it was with your buddies, have a quick nostalgia bomb, but still be able to go back.
I think that's really appealing, to more people then you give it credit for.
I agree, most people don't want to sit and play vanilla wow for 16 hours a day. But to go and play the old content would be fun and enjoyable for some people.
>>335942151
actually no it gives you resources for your weapon to upgrade throughout the xpan
> git gud
>>335942671
>being so much of a faggot that you would actually attempt to do DPS as a warrior in 5 mans
Warriors that refuse to throw on shields and expect to get gear out of 5 mans are worse than ret babies.
>>335942954
cool, played 4 others that are no longer around
your point?
>>335943062
Yeah it was bad.
Especially since you couldn't even come close to competing as Fury unless you were geared to the teeth or the mages/hunters/rogues were literally in greens.
>>335943338
meh, once you got 9% hit and at least had dal'rends you were able to top dps in a comparably geared group
top dps in all raid tiers because theyre unique in that theyre the only class to exponentially get better with gear due to rage generation
>No one wants to play vanilla!/it'd be dead after half year
>Nost manages to do it
>gets 120,000 players on average
>That'd be the third biggest demographic of people playing a game on Steam
top KEK
this is glorious news
blizzdrones btfo as usual
