>Those people that go "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WANT TO BE NEUTRAL! WHY DOESN'T THIS GAME ALLOW ME TO BE NEUTRAL!!?!?!? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" in an RPG
Is there anything more pathetic?
And to all you neutralfags, please post some compelling choices (or non-choices) a neutral character could make.
Neutral is only acceptable when they give you two opposing choices that are equally retarded.
>>335879016
why even use the shitty 3 system method when there is the 9x9
I remember this thread.
It's still shit
>>335879016
Mass Effect Paragon/Renegade system was retard you would be either Jesus or someone worse than Hitler.
because a binary choice system either removes all morally ambiguous choices or trivializes the choice by assigning a "good" and "bad" label
>>335879227
no you weren't
Played a few SMT games, Neutral is usually the best (and most difficult) ending
>Chaos means fucking demons everywhere and total anarchy
>Law wants all humans to worship God and abandon free will
>Neutral ending has you beat down both sides
Neutral is the worst shit DND ever came up with.
It's about having your cake and eating it and never having any actual principles to stand on.
>>335879016
Walking away from shit that doesn't involve you.
Also the problem isn't it is in black and white it is that you either have to be full black or full white to do everything in the game
>>335879016
Acting normally there were times when Renegade were acceptable reactions and times when Paragon were acceptable reactions but no benefit for splitting because some choices required certain Paragon/Renegade scores.
They should've offered something else for those scores and make only the most extreme choices need certain (but less than what they had) scores.
>>335879016
>not having Switzerland citizenship
>go paragon in most conversations, because renegade always makes you act like a cunt
>always do renegade interrupts because they're badass and almost always give you the advantage
>get locked out of earning the entire crew's loyalty because I can't pass a renegade/paragon conversation check
Why
>>335879381
true neutral makes sense in some cases for D&D like druids
>>335879369
>Save a random person
>OR shoot him in the foot to be slowly killed by monster while you watch with popcorn.
>>335879153
9x9?
>being neutral
the idea that character motivation is determined by a slider is retarded. maybe if these games had good writing you wouldn't need BLUE GOOD GUY and RED MEAN GOOD GUY.
>>335879153
9x9? You mean 3x3 right? Because that system is also retarded.
>>335879227
I was renegade 9 times out of ten and you come across as a the only sane person actually trying to save the galaxy, increasingly insane, but still ultimately a good person.
renegade also draws more attention to the fact that you're a cyborg from 2 onward, highlighting the unique position you're in regarding the organic/synthetic conflicts
>>335879227
Which one had a Paragon option of talking someone to suicide? That shit is ethically wack
>>335879016
Eh, it wasn't even really Good vs Evil it was just Restraint vs Impulse. I don't really get why people got their balls in a knot over it, it was kinda cool sometimes acting out of character by choosing an option for the opposite path when you felt it appropriate. It led to fun moments for me at least.
>>335879016
>Mass Effect 3 makes every Renegade choice throughout the series the wrong choice
Bravo Bioware
>>335879675
End of the first game and you can do the same in the third.
>>335879016
Anti-heroes and neutral characters are often the most interesting in media.
A character that is 100% "good" or "evil" makes for a predictable, therefore boring character.
Also, antagonists with justifiable reasoning or a moral code make really good villains. Rather than the villain who is just evil for the sake of being evil
>>335879016
I don't think people want neutral choices. I think they want to be able to make sensible grey area choices like almost every single decision in real life. Who the fuck wants to be bound by some shitty "light side dark side" system that rewards you for being the second coming of Jesus or unrealistically edgy? It ruins the the decisions for the rest of your game because you are just going to pick whichever alignment you started as so you can get stat bonuses or powers or whatever the game gives you. Also the light side/dark side choices are usually extremely biased based on the personal opinions of the developers. EX: One of the first Trooper quests in SWTOR has you retrieve medicine that was stolen by refugees and if you don't get it back soldiers will die. Giving it to the refugees is light side and giving it to the soldiers who were gonna die too is dark side. its a bullshit system.
>>335879016
What's wrong with Neutral? I mean it's why KOTOR2 was so amazing.
>>335879381
some people don't have principles; therefore any alignment system that isn't garbage has to be able to simulate that.
>>335879381
>It's about having your cake and eating it and never having any actual principles to stand on.
No it's not, do you even understand?
It really depends on the person roleplaying, but good neutral characters either believe in balance, or total anarchy not conforming to any norms.
For example, Stone Cold Steve Austin is probably the best example of a chaotic Neutral character played somewhat realistically, he did what he wanted, whenever he wanted, but he wasn't like the joker type of evil.
Or a Neutral character could be more about finding balance like the early je'dai rather than "We must not intervene"
It's not about being neutral, it's about making choices as they're presented to you.
In Mass Effect you pretty much have to decide at the beginning of the game "I'm going to be nice/evil guy" and stick to it in every decision. If you don't do this you're pretty much locked out of late game conversation options.
Not to sound like an Obsidibot, but the reputation systems of KOTOR2 and Alpha Protocol are a much better way of handling lasting choices.
That stupid system ruined any chance of meaningful dialogue choice. Most of the wheels on the left side would have BLUE NICE GUY PARAGON CHOICE and RED EDGY RENEGADE CHOICE, and then you've got three other white options on the right side that no one ever picks because you gotta get those paragon/renegade points up.
And of course the chat wheel summary often being completely different from what Shepard ends up saying, but that's a whole other issue.
>>335879724
What in the fuck are you talking about? No they aren't. Are you retarded? Even played the game or is this another lie /v/ told you?
>>335879016
The morality system in mass effect is fucking stupid. When the geth and quarians are fighting in 3 you're locked out of the option to tell them to make peace unless you've done an arbitrary amount of 'good' things up until that point, and instead you have to decide which race you want to genocide completely. Why should punching a reporter in the face make you literally incapable of taking the most obvious course of action that is best for everybody?
>>335879016
I don't want to be neutral, I want to be able to make a different choice in different situations and not be penalized for it. The way ME does morality is fucking retarded.
Anyway, they always let you be neutral. Other than a handful of major choices in each game, you usually have the choice to say "meh I don't really give a fuck".
>>335879016
Witcher series is literally about neutral character.
>>335879227
No, it was either mild asshole who occasionally does something really insane or choir boy who does anything for anyone.
>>335879016
>tfw played as a 55% Renegade, 45% Paragon in ME2 and still got 98% of all speech checks
>>335880005
>everyone dying because the commander is an edgy asshole
>kill 2-3 species from the universe
>no one support you because you're an unstable psychopath
>fuck completely earth reconquest
>not wrong
more like cuckagon and edgygade
>>335879016
Paragon so I can gank the edgelord shitter kids who picked the evil guys
>>335879674
I think I'm going to do a renegade run.
Male or Femshep? I'm leaning towards Liara as romance because she's the only non-shit romance other than Garrus.
>>335879943
>alpha protocol
God damn that game did choice well. It is easily one of my top ten RPGs.
Sequel or spiritual successor never ever.
>>335879016
Paragon and renegade choices were decent in ME1 but after one it became threaten you with my position or be a violent douche
I don't know how often we have this thread but I have seen it multiple times and every time it has been a stupid thread made by a stupid person.
>>335880248
>game still fuck you by making a China copy of the Paragon choice repercussion in your Renegade game
>>335880421
so get the fuck out of it, bitch.
>>335879675
>>335879783
But the paragon and renegade options there are both you telling them to fight mind control, and them offing themselves
Its not like you told them to splatter their brains on the deck
Renegade for life.
In any other game like this I'm usually good though. I appreciate in Mass Effect it isnt good vs evil, its like hero vs anti hero
>>335880421
>he thinks OP is ever serious
He just wants replies, or a Mass Effect thread. There's no way he's serious. You need to be more wary about how people try to manipulate /v/.
>>335880472
No, I'm going to stay here and continue posting because it bothers you.
>>335880468
"Killed the Rachni Queen? Good thing we have a spare one"
>>335880340
>Alpha Protocol
>The game where being a smarmy shithead was a morality unto itself
God I loved that game, story wise at least.
>Manage to get Al'Qaeda and super sp00py secret spies to team up to help me
>Have crazed german MILF love me for back talking her
>Can manage to win purely by pissing off everyone
>Can ensure all my enemies are trapped in their own, personal hell by the end of the game.
installing ME1 again. I think this is going to be my final run of all 3 games
male/femshep?
paragon or renegade?
>>335879796
I didn't even look at your image until after I read your post, and I was literally thinking of the Punisher from this season of Daredevil/in general. Good shit anon, that show is top notch.
>>335879016
Citadel DLC renegade is the best renegade part of the trilogy.
I purposefully make rash, almost suicidal, decisions in games. Why? Because I'm not playing the game for "reason", I'm playing to be entertained; and the most entertaining decisions are the ones you WOULDN'T make in real life.
That's how I got walking dead seasons 2's best ending first try on a blind play thru.
>>335879016
This system is what make me stop playing ME2.
The game locked me out of a decision I wanted to make due to me not having enough points in renegade.
I had made a few decisions that I thought were in line with the Shepard I wanted to roleplay as but because I wasn't FULL ON HARDCORE ASSHOLE I get locked out of key story choices?
Yeah fuck that.
>mfw neutrals
>>335880648
I tried AP but it just confused the ever loving shit out of me and trying to complete stealth every level was really tough.
>>335879016
Guess what?
Some people have conflicting desires and values.
I'm just as willing to rescue people getting robbed by bandits as I am to robbing someone myself if they have something I really want.
>>335879016
Soul Sacrifice has the best neutral faction.
>Do you save the monster?
>Do you sacrifice the monster?
>Nah nigga, just flip a coin and let's get out of here.
>>335880719
>I didn't even look at your image until after I read your post
How is that even possible? His post is right next to the image. The image has to be in your periphery to see the post.
>>335880719
The Punisher was fucking 10/10 in that season.
Midway through, I didn't even care about DD or Elektra anymore. I just wanted to see more of Frank Castle
>>335880298
femshep
and I say go for Liara just because her romance has the most content along with Garrus, but Liara's story more plot relevancy between the prothean stuff and shadow borker
Neutral is always the best route if there isn't a crazy as balls true end route that gets you a secret dungeon and hidden ending.
>>335879016
Interrupts were stupid shit, if you were a paragon you fucking had to press that paragon button, if you were renegade you fucking pressed that renegade button, there is no reason to just let people finish their conversations.
>>335880838
>mfw neutrals
>>335880852
Haven't played it yet, does the game require stealth or punish you for not stealthing?
>>335880810
In general, CRPGs are pretty shit at this kind of stuff. I had to end up picking a lot of decisions I disagree with, just because it was the right action but the wrong motivation.
>>335880810
This is the main problem with the system.
It doesn't reward thoughtful roleplaying. It rewards sticking to either paradigm. It's almost saying "Sticking to your beliefs as hard as you can instead of rational decision making is how you should live your life" which makes sense because SJWare.
>>335881002
You can do whatever but there's some mandatory shooty parts, its also an rpg first and a shooter second, e.i. headshots do more damage when properly focused but not always instant kill if say you have a weak gun equipped
>>335879016
I remember playing a game where if you chose to be neutral you got the worst ending. Basically it was a giant fuck you, can't remember the name.
>>335881002
You can basically do anything you want as long as you stick to it. It's just the gameplay is shit and doing stealth is just handicapping yourself.
But I'm the autist who always has to ghost, no kill every game so I just made it difficult on myself.
>>335880051
you can do a high renegade run and do all that stuff
>destroy the heretic geth
>stop Tali from getting exiled
>use renegade option to make Tali and Legion stop bickering
>save the admiral and destroy the geth on Rannoch in 3
>do Legion's sidequest in 3
>>335881235
>>335881285
Okay good, I don't like stealth games anymore.
>>335881168
The problem with these sorts of systems is that they end up assigning value and rewards through equipment and skills to a particular leaning. If you play neutral you basically don't get anything at all and are stuck with a lower value character.
It takes thought and choice out of the process leaving the end result being a spread sheet.
>>335881368
I just want you to know your post made me angry and I dislike you. That's all.
>>335880051
That's wrong, you must do good things between both factions to make them reach a pact in 3, for example make Tali accept the Geth, make Legion don't hate the Quarians for being such pieces of shit and help him to rewrite his people.
>>335879016
There is no fucking point to it, all you do is say stupid shit that doesn't matter, because no one cares what you say at all.
But somehow this affects your ability to make good decisions because you literally can not un-fuck a situation up if you didn't feel like being a fag or a douchebag.
>>335881425
You should have just stayed under your cardboard box, now I caught you and you are game over.
>>335881285
I went through AP with as a high armour ar weilding douche bag.
Pretty fun. You should try it
>>335880968
I jumped into season 2 of DD blind purely because of Frank Castle, I was not disappointed but they kinda wrote him off halfway through the season and then picked it up again towards the end.
I can't express how badly I want to see him in his own show or show up in an Avengers movie and fuck shit up.
>>335879016
>monistic plebs having another tantrum
enlightened neutrals will only ever feel pity at your close-minded ways
>>335881601
I still have it for PS3. I might fire it up and just guns blaze it.
>>335881597
Stealth games are my waifu. I'm really good at going unseen IRL so doing it in games where it's important and saving the world makes me feel good.
>>335881724
They'll probably give him a spin off too.
Or at least put him in the avenger show with dd jj and locke
>>335881724
Punisher show is likely. You should watch S1 of Daredevil because he begins kind of punisherlike.
>>335881805
Your waifu a shit.
Also, DXHR is not fun.
Who was in the wrong here?
>>335881946
The only people who dislike stealth games are ADD faggots.
Take your ritalin and just become the ghost in the shadows.
>>335879016
>not wanting to be Yojimbo
Top fucking pleb
>>335881946
>DXHR is not fun.
gonna kill u IRL
>>335881285
Stealth, hard in AP with the skill that turn you invisible. It was easy as fuck even with a recruit
>>335881994
Morinth is literally a serial killer, what do you think?
>>335880298
>species mixing
Fucking traitor.
>>335881994
Samara reminds me of Julia Ann
>>335882029
>being a weeb
top fucking pleb
>>335881994
>Serial killer
or
>Mature woman that is forced to live by a code and is capable of killing herself to protect her daughters from that code
Shit take a guess anon.
>Role playing game
>can't role play as a neutral party
shit game
>Everything should be black and white
And yet you people bitch when devs do this.
>>335882191
>Email and Random Banshee in ME3
Fuck Bioware
>>335879016
>Having good and bad options at all and not just actions and consequences.
>>335880852
You can disable AI and pretend it's a VN/adventure.
>>335882025
This is the same response that every single stealth fan that ever existed has to anyone who disagrees with them.
I could just as easily say you don't have the brain power to handle action and having to react to things so you hide like a little pussy.
>>335882658
>This is the same response that every single stealth fan that ever existed has to anyone who disagrees with them.
Sounds like you done a lot of arguing about it.
As for your second line, I'm not the one who said I disliked anything. I like actions games. I love DMC as much as I love Splinter Cell or MGS.
>>335882393
Serial killer
>>335882658
DUDE AXE TO GRIND IN UNRELATED THREAD LMAO
>>335882784
>Sounds like you done a lot of arguing about it.
Nope, just observation.
>As for your second line, I'm not the one who said I disliked anything. I like actions games. I love DMC as much as I love Splinter Cell or MGS.
And? Technically I did say I used to like them.
Are we witnessing the birth of a new meme?
>>335881994
Seriously to this fucking day I do not understand why you would EVER take Morinth
Even if it was possible to play Shepard as a chaotic evil faggot which it isn't but even if it was there is NO REASON to take a serial killer who is less trained, less predictable, less loyal and known to betray and kill on a whim
Seriously what the fuck was that even about
>>335882921
>Nope, just observation.
You literally said you had argued with a lot of stealth fans and they always say the same thing.
>And?
You assumed I disliked action games because I liked stealth games. It's literally 5 posts up, you don't even have to scroll to see it. It makes it obvious you're still buttmad from arguments you had god knows when and bringing it up in unrelated threads.
Damn, I wasn't even going to dignify your terrible post with a reply, but I had to after the horseshit you just spewed. Never post again.
>>335879016
Neutral is the only logical choice. Not everything is black and white
neutral choices are, in general, shit
however I like being able to switch between good and bad choices
like I'd save the rachni and shit, but still punch that stupid reporter in the face
can't do that though without getting penalized for no reason
>>335879016
>not neutral
>>335883229
>We have to build a choice into this somehow.
Sometimes there doesn't have to be a choice, Bioware.
>>335881824
I wouldn't count on seeing Frank in any Avengers movie, they are far too giddy and good spirited for ol' Frank, even the "big bad" in the Avengers cone off ass goofy, Punisher would stick out like a sore thumb.
>>335883229
>You literally said you had argued with a lot of stealth fans
Site where I said this.
>You assumed I disliked action games because I liked stealth games
And?
>>335883234
A lot more things are black and white than most people give credit for, especially in settings where you are playing a protagonist.
Regardless that attitude only really applies to consequences of actions not a person's motivations, which can easily be generally benevolent and often are
>>335883323
>Site
Cite, that is.
>>335883317
I was referring to the avengers tv series that netflix is doing with dd, jj, and the black guy who is also locke in halo but I forget his name
It's the same universe as the avengers movies but yeah there won't be any crossover.
>>335883323
>Site where I said this.
>This is the same response that every single stealth fan that ever existed has to anyone who disagrees with them.
Meaning you've had arguments with stealth fans. Again, I wasn't going to reply, but you're just too wrong for me not to.
>And?
You made the assumption because you're a butthurt nigger who's butthurt is obvious. Never post again.
>>335883323
You literally fucking said you had arguments with stealth fans who "said the same thing" you dumbass.
>>335879016
Neutrality is just some meme; it's a mode if existence and thought that many games don't account for. Many aspects if are grey-areas. Complicated situations should have complicated solutions, not just
>these are bad guys, kill them
Only plebs want black and white games
>>335883664
*isn't *
>>335880051
That's not how it works at all, you fucking mong. ME3 uses some bullshit reputation system that builds when you complete major quests. Beyond that, the GQ conflict requires that Tali and Koris live, Tali receive her admiralty, Legion remain loyal, and up to five point banked towards peace. You can attain those points by destroying the Heretics, finding a colonize-able world, and some other shit in ME2.
JOLEE BINDO
he wasn't neutral out of any sort of morality he just didn't give a fuck
>>335883475
>Meaning you've had arguments with stealth fans.
No, doesn't really mean that at all. So, like I said but you ignored again, there actually was a point where I liked stealth games. In threads where I talked about them, that ADD thing was usually the defense for anybody who didn't like them.
I only started disliking them recently after realizing they're pretty much all the same shit.
>You made the assumption because you're a butthurt nigger
No, I was comparing your stupid assumption that everyone who doesn't like stealth has ADD to another stupid claim. Not sure why you decided it was about you personally and not just a general thing.
You keep popping off about butthurt but you seem to be taking this really personally, especially with this continued line about how you totally weren't going to reply. Go ahead and drop another (you) for me.
ME3>ME2
>>335879016
>OP's desire for (You)s becomes so unbearable to the point where he has to actively recycle old threads just to get his daily fix
Quite literally shaking my head at you OP.
>>335883956
Literally 80 percent of /v/ is bait to get the thread started and purposeful reposts. You're the dummy for not realizing this.
>>335882287
lol? how so
>>335883664
This.
Musubi in Nocturne is the best "morality" ending I've seen and just asks a simple question.
"What about I just don't give a shit what others believe, let them be happy thinking what they want?"
>>335883447
The Defenders fyi
>>335884126
>lol?
>?
How can one be confused as to whether or not they are laughing out loud?
Mass Effect 3 was so goddamn boring. I legitimately don't understand how anybody managed to finish it. Admittedly, I already knew the endings were hot garbage by the time I got around to playing the game but ridiculous amount of fetch quests and lack of actual dialogue between characters just killed the game for me. Did the game get any better past the halfway point? That's right around where I just dropped the game and stopped caring.
>>335879108
Like the choice between blowing up the Collector Base (monumentally stupid) or giving it to TIM (also very stupid if you're not a human supremacist). Why they fuck can't I give it to the Council or the Alliance? I guess that's not technically an example of wanting a "neutral" choice, but it is an example of only being given two stupid choices.
>game has morality system
>only way to be bad is to be an edgelord
>you can't be in it for the long con or be machiavellian and pit people against each other for your own gain and use people as your own chess pieces
>>335884196
Yup, that's it. Couldn't think of the name.
>>335884126
She has Julia Ann's tits. Compare them and you'll see what I'm talking about.
>>335884207
Confused laughter is a thing. I'm more concerned with how saying "lol" and other things like is tolerated on /v/. I haven't been here for a while.
>>335879603
D&D alignments. There are 9 of them, for various combinations of how Good/Evil and Lawful/Chaotic you are.
>>335884530
>'m more concerned with how saying "lol" and other things like is tolerated on /v/.
It's called picking your battles.
>>335884640
Battling with someone who was using lol and lmao would make me feel pathetic.
>>335880051
That whole situation is fucked anyway, because it really makes no sense for the quarians to think the Reaper invasion was the best time to start a separate war that they would have had trouble winning even under normal circumstances.
>>335884794
It's not even that. It's just so insignificant and negligible that there's really no reason to bother. You want to battle something, battle stupid people who drop in from whatever dumbass site and post without lurking and flip out whenever they're called out for being retarded and not understanding the norms.
>>335879227
Because you aren't supposed to pick a morality from the start of the game and only make those choices. You can't do that then also cry about Shepard's actions being one dimension.
>>335885070
The lol and what you mentioned are one in the same IMO.
>>335881492
Actually, I think rewriting the heretics ends up working against you. You get more points toward making peace in ME3 if you destroy them.
>>335885253
>Because you aren't supposed to pick a morality from the start of the game and only make those choices.
But you literally are, outside of minor dialogue choices. If you don't commit to one side for every big choice, you will be punished later by having limited choices.
Neutrality/=/Apathy
It is far better to make the right decision for the situation than conform to a moral alignment the entire way through.
>>335885262
I don't particularly disagree, but like I said, pick your battles. I think saying lol is a much lesser evil in the grand scheme of things.
>>335885329
Weird i remember Legion talking that rewriting the heretics was good because it gave them free will until the Reapers gave them the offer to be their "slaves" in exchange for upgrades to fight againt's the Quarians after they started attacking them again.
>>335885464
posts that only say KEK or spout some simplistic meme or opinion along with KEK make me super fucking angry but I can never say anything about it
>>335879016
>Is there anything more pathetic?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335885480
By what logic does literally reprogramming a being's mind actually *give* them free will instead of taking it away?
>>335885708
Because the concensus was made between everyone to reprogram those Geths who allied themselves with the Reapers and get a second chance of living, like what do you preffer to do with a criminal who wants a second chance, give him the chair or treat him to see him progress.
It's weird how they always presented Renegade as the "hard" and "pragmatic" choice and yet the Paragon choice works flawlessly near every god damn time. With the only minor exception I can think of is rewriting the heretics.
My favorite part was letting Balak go back in the "Bring Down the Sky" DLC in ME1 in order to save his hostages, and he shows up in ME3 and instead of fucking you over, he makes peace with you and gives you the remains of the Batarian fleet to aid your war effort.
>>335886123
Dammit now I want to go back restart this ME1-3 playthrough to paragon instead of renegade
>>335879016
>i want to make all my choices before the game even started
What's the point of it when I get punished by the game for evaluating every choice instead of going only one way for the whole game?
>>335879016
This thread again?
Go fuck yourself.
Being neutral and being a weak willed pussy afraid to support their principles are two entirely different things.
>>335885985
It's more like "give him the chair or reprogram his mind to make him a different person, which is basically the same thing as killing him".
>>335879016
>mhu freedom of choices in videogames, specialy in Rpg, so lame..
Are 12 ?
>>335886123
Any real-world cop who made the Renegade choice in Bring Down the Sky would lose their badge and probably also go to prison. Having Balak to a complete 180 like that is going overboard, though.
>>335879016
Why would you want less options?
>>335886732
>to a complete 180
Should be "do a complete 180".
>>335879016
>Is there anything more pathetic?
People copypasting same threads.
>>335886860
I don't think you should correct minor mistakes like that. We know what you meant.
>>335886895
But that's literally how /v/ works.
>>335886732
Come to think of it, a large number of the Renegade choices would get Shepard into deep shit if they weren't officially above the law, which is a privilege no sane society would ever give to anyone.
>>335887281
>which is a privilege no sane society would ever give to anyone.
white males
>>335886447
You're criminal, your brain was high on religion and you fucked up, now I'm giving you choice between conditioning and death, pick carefully or I turn you from walking flashlight into crawling fleshlight.
>>335887326
...have higher sentences for lesser crimes, how is that privilege?
>>335879016
>And to all you neutralfags, please post some compelling choices (or non-choices) a neutral character could make.
any choice where you obviously think of yourself before the others
it's not that hard
>>335887579
>it's not that hard
It is when you look at it from OPs perspective considering this bait thread has been posted numerous times word for word over the past few months now.
>>335879016
Only a sith deals in absolutes. And shitty game developers like Bioware.
>>335879381
>Neutral is the worst shit DND ever came up with.
Unlikely, because D&D didn´t come up with its alignments at all.
>>335887915
also bethesda.
>>335880298
you forgot the best romance in the games,kaidan
>>335879016
>>335879016
Problem with the system is you have to choose before even beginning the game if you are good or bad, and not make a meaningful choice on a case-to-case basis.
Even though i generally want to be nice to people, if i want to punch the reporter i should be able to without the game penalizing me.
>>335884586
So it's 3x3 not 9x9 their's 9 choices not 81.
>>335880078
This.
>Really now? You expect me to slog through the shit FOR you, JUST to possibly get a knife in the back for my troubles at the end of it all?
>FUCK YOU, PAY ME
How anyone can immerse themselves as a white knight or a remorseless sociopath, especially with the level of writing these kinds of games usually get? We expect some sort of reward when we play anyway, that's how this whole process works. Why not go full merc, choose how YOU want things to go, and get a tidy sum along the way?
