Is this any good? It looks badass but I haven't gotten around to making a build to test it yet.
Also, best and worst boss soul weapons in DS3?
>>335862235
the weapon art is slow and useless
>>335862235
L2 is way too fucking slow
>>335862235
It's mediocre. It'd be decent if its WA had hyper armor like Morne's Greathammer, but it doesn't.
It's definitely not the worst boss weapon, though. That'd be the Dancer's Enchanted Blades, which is funny because they just buffed their base damage. Unfortunately, a base damage buff is not enough to make them good.
The best boss weapons are definitely the Dragonslayer's Greataxe and the Dragonslayer's Swordspear. Lothric's Holy Sword is also really good, as is Lorian's Greatsword.
is Vordt's Great Hammer any good? I'm picking the game up soon and I've always liked Flanged maces.
>>335862554
Lothric's is good? I got it to +5 but honestly the damage feels really subpar compared to my Irithyll Straight Sword, and is only a little better than my Lothric Knight Sword and that can be buffed.
I've heard there was a trick to making Lothric's sword scale better, but not sure how.
Any idea on how good/bad Gundyr's Halberd, Lorian's Greatsword, Moonlight, Storm Curved Sword, Crystal Sage's Rapier, or the Firelink Greatsword are? Also curious on >>335862845
>>335863290
Scratch Lorian's. Missed it in your post.
>>335862235
Just use whatever yo like
Jesus when did the whole souls "community" become huge min max fags
>>335864796
It's not about using the best possible weapons, it's about knowing if something is utter trash or absurdly overpowered. Overpowered weapons take the fun out of the game, and shit-tier weapons take the fun out of a moveset.
>>335864796
when 4chan convinced the whole community in DS1 the 'goal' of the games was to make twink builds that can oneshot low level newbies when you invade
>Getting some medals
>Every faggot using some form of Straight Sword
>They still fucking die or don't help at all
>Find out later that there are articles encouraging this shit.
Fuck this """community""".
>>335865405
but thats the whole point of DS
>>335862235
Is the Farron greatsword decent in PvP? I wanna make an abyss walker cosplayer at around level 30 and invade in the swamp but I'm worried people will parry the artorias lunge
>>335865550
Hosts should still help, if they don't just black crystal out or sit the fight out
>>335863290
What sets the sword apart is its WA, which has really long range and can safely snipe opponents.
I personally like it a lot. It's not the best sword, of course, but I think it's one of the better boss weapons.
>>335865675
It gives great movement I think and can get behind turtlers
>>335865735
Glad to know it's fine then. Does the L2 do good damage? I've heard most casts (besides Pyro) suck in DS3 and wasn't sure if this falls into the same problems.
>>335863290
Shit, I forgot to answer your other questions.
>Gundyr's Halberd
One of the best halberds, actually. It's WA is amazing and it actually has good scaling unlike a lot of other boss weapons.
>Moonlight Greatsword
It's shit and pales in comparison to the BB version. It's not even as good as the DaSI/II versions. It's main problem is the fact that its damage is split now instead of pure magic. Its scaling is horrible, too, for some reason.
>Storm Curved Sword
I actually haven't used this, but it's popular because it has an "infinite". I think that got patched, though.
>Crystal Sage's Rapier
A damn fine INT weapon. Raises item discovery and, in my opinion, the rapier WA is just genuinely useful. Funny enough, it actually has better INT scaling than the MLGS.
>Firelink Greatsword
It's not good at all. Profaned GS and Lorian's GS are way better.
>>335865905
It deals decent damage considering you can hit with it from a long distance.
Also, the recent patch buffed magic a bit, so it's not really that bad anymore. I still need to do some testing on Sorceries and Miracles, but Pyromancies do about 10% more damage on most spells.
>>335865550
if someone summons for help its probably because they know they arent good
>>335866243
How is Irithyll Straight Sword?
>>335866571
It's a Straight Sword so it's good, but Frostbite seems generally unreliable in PvP and doesn't scale off anything that I know of. Also it's unbuffable/uninfusable.
>>335866243
This was all very helpful, thank you.
Hopefully the Firelink Greatsword gets a buff soon. I've wanted to use the bonfire sword since DS1. Still might despite it being bad, but I think that might suck some fun out of it because of what it is.
>>335866571
OP here. I used the Irithyll Straight Sword my entire first playthrough and loved it beginning to end, but I'm an ice fag and couldn't pass it up. It outdamages every other straight sword I've used, though, but only by a little and can't be buffed which balances it out.
Seems to stagger PvE constantly, but the frostbite seems useless.
>>335862235
>Is this any good?
If it isn't a straight sword it might as well be shit. I fucking hate that using anything other than straight swords and mashing R1 puts you at a massive disadvantage.
Crystal Sage's Rapier raises item discovery? If equip it, but not use it, will it still work?
>>335866996
I have never had trouble in PvP against anyone using a straight sword. If anything, I have a lot more trouble with katanas and UGS.
>>335866689
Bleed/poison/frostbite scale with Luck you plebeian.
>>335866571
By virtue of being a straight sword, it's good, but other straight swords are better solely because they can be infused/buffed. Also, frostbite isn't really a very useful ailment so there goes pretty much the only thing it had going against other straight swords.
Feel free to use it, it's good, just not /as/ good as other straight swords.
>>335866783
It's not that the Firelink GS is bad or anything, it's just kinda redundant considering there are two other greatswords that do the same WA buff thing, except they also have (iirc) better scaling. If you like the look of the sword, then, by all means, use it. Fashion > stats. Always.
>>335867149
As long as it's visible the ID boost is working. So you can two-hand your main weapon and just have the rapier on your belt and it'll still work.
Doesn't seem to work if it's in an inactive hand slot, though.
>>335867197
So if anything it's one of the few straight swords not giving the player a huge advantage? That makes it better if anything.
Oh, so the bonfire sword is still viable? Just not optimal? That's fine, then. I was afraid it was going to be doing like broadsword damage or some shit.
I've been using the black knight sword lately and it doesn't seem that bad. I like the r2 combo and weapon art. At 24 STR and 20 DEX the scaling is pretty good even for a D in both.
I'll probably switch it out once I have enough Faith to use the good weapon buffs.
I heard you'll be able to buy titanite slabs in the next update, is this true?
I've been liking the lothric ultra gs with lighting. has done well on everything that wasn't nameless king.
>>335867567
how would anyone know this?
>>335867567
Hopefully. No reason not to have this feature as long as they cost like 100k each.
>>335867567
Confirmed, my dad works for From.
>>335867381
Nah, it does decent damage, it just has the same problem as the Dancer's Enchanted Swords where the scaling is horrible even at +5. In fact, this is a problem that a lot of boss weapons suffer from. You'd think, given that they can't be infused or buffed, that FROM would have at least given them good scaling, but I guess not. They made some weird-ass decisions as far as balance goes-- and I'm not even thinking from a PvE perspective.
If this is anything like DaSII, then I'm sure the game's weapon balance will only get better in the future. Just... slowly.
How is the Greatsword of Judgement? I want to use both of Sulyvahn's weapons
>>335867871
Shit, I meant to say "PvP perspective".
>>335867935
That's the magic one, right?
It's ok. D/D/D scaling is shit, but the WAs deal some decent damage and also briefly buff the weapon itself. It'd be a lot better if the buff didn't last, like, 10 seconds.
Profaned greatsword is better
So far, transponded weapoins for me
>God tier
THE PEOPLE'S Halberd
>High Tier
Dragonslayer GA, Sword-spear, Demon GA, Profaned GA, Storm Curved Sword.
>Okay tier
Hollowslayer, Demon GH, Vordt GH, Dancer Twinswords, Abyss GS.
>Nah man, nah tier
Farron GS, Bonfire GS, Aster Spear.
>What the fuck are you doing tier
Demon Fists
>>335868842
Vordt's would be solid if you didn't have to invest so much into fucking Faith.
As great as Havel's Ring is to have on hand, is Boulder Heave useful enough to get on the first run of a NG cycle? It seems neat.
Has anyone used the Crescent Moon Sword? Looks badass, but not sure how the moveset is
>>335869010
Bort hammer just needs 30 STR, I think you might be talking about Morne's GH.
>>335869010
Vordt's Greathammer doesn't use faith in any way.
>>335869145
In my exeprience it's one of the better pyromancies, and the knockdown can lead to some silly cheese moments
Is there any reason to use the Uchigatana over the Washing Pole?
>>335869145
It's a good runaway spell. Most Pyromancer builds don't need the ring, so it's a safe bet.
What's a good, fast weapon that is not a fucking meme?
>>335869145
It's actually really cool. It takes a little long to cast, but the boulder does great damage (That isn't fire-based.) and can be spat off ledges/ladders in order to hit people climbing down.
It's only useful if you actually plan on making a pyro build, by the way. It's not the kind of spell that's good if you just invest in base stats like the pyro buffs.
>>335869156
It's a pretty damn good shotel. Weirdly enough, it doesn't have any INT scaling at all even though it deals split damage. It's actually a pure DEX weapon.
Only thing I didn't like about it was the crescent beam. I felt like it would often hit the ground unless I was somewhat close to the opponent. Then again, the MLGS and Greatsword of Judgement have that same problem, so it's not alone in that regard.
>>335869410
Better damage (iirc) and more durability. Acid Urns aren't really a thing, though, so it's not like that really matters much.
>>335867391
I went from the astora straight sword, to executioner's curved greatsword, to the black knight sword, and can safely say that the bks us my favorite.
His harder than a good number of swords, but us fast enough and lighter, without taking too much stamina.
The weapon art also helps with quick trades that I might not handle otherwise.
I just can't figure out the timing with it and the lothric bros...
>>335867935
is there any ring that can extend that buff? and does it scale with INT?
>>335869556
At 40 dex, the +6 sharp washing pole is stronger than my +6 sharp uchigatana
The washing pole is just a better weapon, save for the extra weight and higher str requirement
>>335869751
I see. I thought Uchi had higher damage.
I guess the only thing it has against the Washing Pole is more durability and less stat requirements.
What are some of the better quality weapons? Using the red hilt halberd I think it's called. It's not bad, but I'm not really a fan of the moveset.
>>335868842
>Dragonslayer GA
God damn does that weapon put the BIG in big dick damage
>>335862235
its k
>>335862235
I'll let you know tomorrow after I beat him on my faith build. Got my shit pushed in on my magic build tonight.
>>335869936
Murakumo
Black Blade
Black Knight Sword
Lucerne
Crescent Axe
Hollowslayer
Dank Hammers
Dank Spears
Astora GS
Zweihander
Who /demonfist/ here?
>>335870638
Alright thanks senpai. I've been wanting to give katanas and curved gs a try.
>>335867679
Why the fuck would you even need more than 8 weapons maxed out in one run? Christ
>>335868842
farron gs nah tier
you what?
>>335868842
>Dancer above Farron and Arstor's
>>335868842
>He doesn't know Lorian's Greatsword does almost 800 AR with the buff.
OK GUYS
This is important
What is the best magic weapon?
What is the best faith weapon?
Moving the dragonslayer swordspear to a sl32 twink has resulted in some wonderful fun.
>>335871827
Crystal Rapier
Dragonslayer ______
>>335871960
How much damage does it even do unupgraded? Since I assume it's at most +2.
>>335871490
It's called experimenting, some people like having versatile builds, so they need to try lots of combinations.
>>335872164
You already have Excel to do the maths for that
>>335872149
I'm doing it at +1 and the WA (especially if followed up while theyre stunned) shreds people apart. Plus you've got good pokes with thrust damage being boosted by leo ring.
>>335872407
Sounds like you're getting a lot of fan mail
>>335867679
>they should be outrageously expensive
For what reason? Increased soul cost to level up this game can fuck itself as well.
>>335865550
I'd rather have a host who sits back and doesn't die than a host that runs in and dies. At least the first one doesn't involve you getting nothing and wasting your time because some other fucker is bad at the game.
>Moonlight GS favorite weapon since DeS
>It's been shit in every game since
>>335872346
I prefer doing it rather than just going to a wiki/calculator, the damage varies a lot when it comes to PvP.
>>335872770
It was good in BB.
>>335868842
Dragonslayer Great axe is fucking broken 40 str
35 faith at +5 it's AR is 756
>>335871243
Go curved exile greatsword and make it refined, shits amazing
>>335872770
>Dark Souls 2's Moonlight Greatsword
>Shit
>Bloodborne's Holy Moonlight sword
>Shit
Haven't tried DaS3's yet, but the last 2 were fucking amazing, a lot better than DaS 1.
>>335871827
Crystal rapier
Morne's hammer
>>335872751
You're a halfwit, soul level matters not at all, it's all in weapon upgrades.
>>335872770
BB's was great what the fuck nigga
>>335870803
How is that weapon? Is it up to par with others or shit like the Caestus?
Also has anyone tried out the Great Scythe? I want a super edgy character.
>>335871751
I am not even finished with my build yet and my Dragonslayer GS does 758
>>335865550
>get summoned for wolnir
>destroy the right bracelet, the only hard part about the fight
>they die to the poo gas
alternatively
>get summoned for wolnir
>they go down to fight the demon
>i draw the mimic over to show the host a cool thing
>they die trying to fight the mimic
>in both cases they're almost always darksword/katana shitters
>>335873220
>fist weapons
>ESPECIALLY the demon fist
why couldn't we have the vanq seal from ds2 back
>>335872770
>>335872865
>>335873134
I've got a bunch of videos showing how fun HMS is
>>335873516
webm for ants?
>>335873516
Somewhat unrelated but hows the weapon balance in BB? The beast claws and the whip cane look pretty cool but if the souls games are anything to go by those weapons are probably ass
>>335862554
>That'd be the Dancer's Enchanted Blades
It hurts. I made a whole build around it only to be fucked. at least weeby and nothing personal work in the build.
>>335865016
this
>play through DaS1 blind
>spend like 1 hour getting my ass kicked while going down to the catacombs
>realize I'm not supposed to go that way and come out of it with a decent amount of levels and a zweihander
>grind till I can wield it properly
>end up getting a black knight greatsword too
>end up breezing through the game from that point onward
I didn't even know those weapons were that goodtfw I used a drake sword on my second character
I never got the true souls experience in DaS1
>>335873473
Because From's A team doesn't know how to make fun games where you can punch shit to death. They can only make tedious games.
>>335873790
Beast claws with the beast emrbace runes has no right being as strong as it is. It can easily rip and tear bosses in ng+++++++ to pieces
>>335873790
beast claws is a bit low even with beast seal, where whip is a bit high but harder to use
>>335873220
Bad range, bad roll attack, worse than OK poise damage, useless WA, and a good chunk of it's damage is fire based which makes it worthless against thing resistant to that.
But boy, am I having fun using it.
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>>335873858
>pve
>>335873948
>Pvp
>Caring about how much damage weapons do
>Grabbed the Wolf Knight Greatsword and have never looked back
Nice surprise finding out Aldrich was included in that damage buff.
>>335870638
He's fast.
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>>335874028
>pve
>nothing but brain dead fights vs AI
>>335862275
>>335862264
>Tfw this wouldn't be a problem if Poise was in the fucking game
>>335874036
I want to like it, but the base damage seems way too low compared to other greatswords
>>335873858
>>335873873
Aight thanks, just waiting for the ps4.5 to drop and I'll finally give BB a whirl
>>335873790
Better than Souls seeing as there's less of them, pretty much almost all weapons are good and all are workable
I used the heavy infused bastard sword, why no love for basterd
planning to switch to zwei, will that be a good plan?
>>335874153
uh you would just get backstabbed
>>335874153
naw they'd still be able to backstab/smack you out of it
>>335874124
>PvP
>nothing but idiots with zweis and uchis
>>335874153
You'd just get backstabbed instead, it's that fucking slow.
>>335873114
Nice opinion cretin.
>>335874346
looks like some one hasnt been into a fightclub
>>335871589
it does absolutly pathetic damage and the special moves are so easy to parry its not even funny
>>335874450
>Astora GS
This guys alright
>>335873790
I did a whole playthrough with the whip and it wasn't bad. You just have to really rely on the range and the width of the whip more than other weapons. Cane mode is good for 1 on 1 and whip is godly for trash mob crowd control. Also tricking into cane from the whip is a god tier move, it's fast as fuck and is great for getting the initial hit on a single enemy at range and then moving yourself into range for R1 cane spam. Tricking out of cane into whip is shit though.
Probably the most fun weapon and I've done entire runs with meme blade, MLGS, Chikage (second most fun), Pizza cutter (boring as fuck) and claws at this point.
>>335872770
moonlight gs was good in both das1 and 2, but they got nerfed hard.
in fact das2 moonlight gs was pure magic with great int scaling, and could be buffed with crystal magic weapon
>the only cool weapons are slow as fuck
>hitting fast enemies is a pain the ass because you can be interrupted by one of them clipping their toenail at you
>every other weapon is fucking B O R I N G
>you can stunlock R1 spam to victory though
Goddamn this game is shit
>>335874708
>>335873134
>>335873001
>>335872865
Alright you got me, I haven't played BB and didn't play more than a couple hours into Das2.
>>335874715
Drang Hammers m8. Or any dual weapons for that matter.
>>335862554
>It's definitely not the worst boss weapon, though. That'd be the Dancer's Enchanted Blades, which is funny because they just buffed their base damage. Unfortunately, a base damage buff is not enough to make them good.
>mfw it's one of my favorite weapons
I just feel so fancy doing the weapon art even though it's practically useless
>>335872407
Does upgrading make it so you can't play with people at the same weapon range?
Say if you have a +5 weapon, and someone you want to invade has an unupgraded weapon. Would that be impossible if you were at the same level? Just curious
>>335875298
Yes. There's a range of I believe +-3 for weapon level, you have to be in range of both weapon level and player level.
>>335873404
>darksword shitter
>killed by mimic
???
>>335867154
Katanas are only good since they're nearly a straight sword but have the crazy good punishing running r1. Unless it's the astora GS, UGS are really shit.
>>335875792
Darksword is basically the new drakesword.
>>335866996
Oh you think the straight sword is hot shit? Have you heard of an estoc?
That shit is ridiculous, sometimes people I fight can't even roll out of it. I invaded this group and they let one guy come at me. He dual wielded a great hammer and an estoc, guess which one killed me.
>>335875961
I got darksword and black blade mixed up.
>>335874976
>have it at +5
>fighting nameless king with a friend on his second playthrough
>4 fucking damage a tick
Honestly, the biggest buff you could do to it is making the fire one the primary and the magic the secondary blade.
>>335872770
MLGS in DS2 is fucking hilarious when paired with Blue Flame.
>>335874950
>not getting hard over the twinswords
>>335875863
>astora GS
AND PEOPLE ARE STILL NOT PICKING IT UP
is it too thin or something?
>>335876241
It doesn't fit my uninspired gattsu cosplay fampai.
>>335876031
My nigga. Black fire blade and washing pole.
>>335876179
>tfw Blue Flame isn't in the game
>tfw its replacement looks ugly as fuck
Why, From?
>>335876317
oddly I dont see gatsu blade alot either
I see more Lorian GS then either
>>335876317
>have like, 10 ultra great swords
>still haven't gotten the cathedral knight's ugs
>>335873516
why the fuck does this webm have shitty resolution
is it because ps4 720p?
>>335876414
I haven't had that drop either, I'm using the greatsword as a watchdog of farron.
>made a character with the intention of going dancer cosplay buildwhich was fucking shit but that is beside the point
>literally every short sword dropped on the first enemy possible
>>335873404
>solo mimics for hosts because I fucking hate fighting mimics in my own world
>lose nothing if I choke and eat shit fighting theirs
>half the time the host sprints into mimic grabs and dies
I just want them to fuck off and fight the piddly mobs while I handle anything vaguely dangerous.
>>335876367
Heide knight set is my favorite across all games and was not included.
Sigh
>>335876131
This just reminded me
>messing around with other weapons in my left hand
>have dancers in my right and get to a pair of twin blades
>gee unkindled one, whys the fire keeper let you have 4 swords
It shouldn't have been as funny as it was
>>335862235
>Is this any good?
do you have 1920p HP and x10, +10 Estus?
>tfw all these cool weapon arts and attacks and 99% of them are fucking worthless in pvp
>>335876625
cathedral knight is better
>>335865550
>there are articles encouraging this shit.
what?
>>335876810
There's a few good ones, but I often forget to even use them in PvP. The only one I use frequently is Perseverance
>>335866243
>Gundyr's Halberd
>It's WA is amazing
seconding
basically free 500 damage in PvP, absolutely no one can roll through it
>>335876592
I just lloyd'd the mimic for host.
>>335862235
the best boss soul weapon is without a doubt storm curved sword
>Tfw been using Wolf Knights Greatsword+5 since I picked it up
Underpowered, average, whatever you want to call it, I love it.
Relatively low stamina cost per swing and the lunge sword art has good range and stuns the biggest of enemies.Plus rolling around in Artorias set with a greatshield is fun.
>>335876993
>Perseverance
FUCKING GODLIKE WEAPON ART
BECOME UNSTOPPABLE
>>335877546
>bating retards into attacking me with my offhand mace, then smashing their face in with my fuckhuge axe when the bounce off of me
>>335862554
The holy sword is good? What's it scale off of? The art does nothing
>>335876810
>tfw all these cool weapon arts and attacks and 99% of them are fucking worthless in pvp
>Most of them are meant for pvp
Just gotta know when to use them faraam.
>>335872865
Not him but I hated every weapon in BB that had split damage scaling, like chikage for example.
>one form does one type of damage
>other form does another and requires a totally different stat
So I have to invest in twice the stats for the same amount of damage in a regular weapon? Shit sucks. Chikage blood form should just be a buff to base damage that scales with tinge, same thing with MLGS.
I'm using a Lothric Greatsword and with buffs, I hit 774 AR at level 114. Is this okay?
>>335876993
>pop Perseverance
>only two possible outcomes
>opponent gets shit on hard
>opponent realizes you're untouchable (five times in the fight tops)
>if he doesn't get dominated by it, he runs away and turns faggotry up to 11
I don't know why people get so scared of it. Just don't do more than one poke at a time and you're golden.
>>335873790
Excellent. Every weapon can be used in PvP (barring maybe the Stake Driver but people still do). If only the random invasion system was good.
hey dudes who decide to use the moonlight greatsword in every game.
you're like that person who decides to get chicken tenders every time they visit a new restaurant.
how bout that one huh? what do you gotta say about that?
>>335874252
If you've used Zwei in Das1 like most have, this game's version will be a let down.
>>335876381
I dunno if it's just me but the Guts sword feels slower than the other UGS's. I'm guessing other people feel the same way.
>>335866783
I've been using the Firelink GS, i'm sure other ones are better but it's amazingly satisfying knocking someone down with Iron Flesh + Sacred Flame then catching them with the weapon art trail when they double roll away to estus
>>335874036
>>335877506
I too love that sword and its weapon art, so damn much. Now i understand why the legion became the official Artorias fanclun.
>>335878074
Yo fuck off. Tendies is a safe option is everything else sounds foreign. I don't want to pay 15 bucks for something and be like "ooh..." when it comes.
>>335873790
The Scythe is very underwhelming. It isn't "Bad," just underwhelming.
The Dual Daggers are actually prettyfunfor PvE.
>>335878337
Experiment, you shit, how will you know if you like it or not?
I just beat the princes
Should I get the lorian greatsword or lothric straight sword?
>>335873790
It's better balanced than Dark Souls 3. My build had 30/ 30 str/ dex split with 20 Blood and 15 Arcane.
I managed to use every weapon to great effect. It wasn't a specialization build it was a use-it-all type of build. I had every weapon at +9. Even weapons where I got poor scaling were viable in BB because you could add gems. I was doing 1000+ damage with my Moonlight Sword and 350 with my Reiterpallasch (the rapier).
That type of balance is what's missing in DaS3. I mean the rapier will obviously hit more than twice on a good run and any player can dodge my Moonlight Sword since its a heavy sword.
>>335878337
>He finds comfort in repetition and is perfectly fine with it
lol, tendies scrubs everyone
want to make a 40str 40 dex char
what weapon should i use? just refined aynthing? a nice moveset maybe..
first playthrough was pyro/gundyrs halberd/some sword (weak as fuck)
>>335878738
go 45 strength and use smough's hammer you faggot
>>335878738
Black Knight weapons
>>335878565
Straight sword has a light beam, catches people off guard, Lorian is simply Pontiff's UGS but 2.0, it tops it on everything except the duration of the buff it gets.
>>335878565
>>335878565
ss and gomad
>Gotthard Twinswords
>>335878738
Pontiff UGS is quality, it has C for STR and C for DEX.
Artorias GS is also good for quality.
>>335879007
>Rolling L1 the weapon
Outside of that, it sucks ass.
best dex weapon?
>>335879019
>>335878886
thanks will try out
>>335878862
no
>>335879113
Starting sellswords are very reliable
>>335879129
what a fag
>>335879007
I'm thinking of doing a twin-blade playthrough. Did they get nerfed or do people just hate then or something? Also this for the dual katanas
>>335876881
cathedral knights look better but the set looks shit on players
>>335879113
git scythe
git sharp gem
git coal from farron keep
>>335876810
just wait ubtil someone oneshots you with the dragonslayer greataxe fampie
>Fucking around with the Deacons of the Deep
>they start to cast some curse magic shit
>everything starts to look like it's underwater
I almost died because of curse buildup but damn it was cool to see
>>335879095
>it sucks
>it's a regular straight sword but better
>>335879095
R1->L2->R2 friend, easier and better than R1 spamming especially if you have Carthus Rogue on
>>335873798
Don't worry, you just need to wait for the DLC so they'll properly implement Ciaran's blades :^)
on a serious note it's apparently dummied content with a bunch of other shit so it probably actually is DLC
Great wooden hammer is the ultimate killing machine folded over a gorillan times. you will literally walk over every single person and they wont stand a chance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOd1g4CrVOQ
>>335869145
It's a really cheesy spell.
The windup makes it completely unusable in a straight fight, but it does huge stability damage to shields and the arc of it means it'll hit people by ledges and on ladders from over top of them.
>>335862235
It's utter shit. A lot of heavy weapons are utter and completely irredeamable simply because they swing slow, have no poise meaning anything will flinch you out of an attack, and the damage they do isn't worth all the negative.
Just pick your favorite Straight Sword of choice, and do -15% less damage while swinging faster AND being able to buff the weapon. Trust me on this Phamiliamlam. I upgraded many weapons up to slabs (+5/+10) and I still fall back on dark sword because straight swords are too fucking good.
>>335878074
ONLY DUMBFUCKS PLAY THE LOTTERY
TENDIES NEVER DISAPPOINT
WHEREAS THAT DUCK A L'ORANGE DID
>>335879528
Phamiliamlam is way too close to my actual name for comfort
Ph******** Milam
>>335879528
Nigga i'll keep using my Great Axe.
I don't score hits that often but when I do the opponent shits their pants
>>335873790
Since all weapons in BB is the only weapon of that type, and all go for max upgrades?
All of them are at the least viable.
Because in Dark Souls there would be 10-20 swords, with some combination of their move set, and most of them would have too subpar stats to be viable. So maybe there is 3 or 4 of those swords you can actually use, outside of gimmicks.
In BB you get the faggot axe, and thats the axe. Which is also who so many people finished the game with the default weapon you get if you just mash.
>>335878906
I prefer gallon of green blossom a day.
>>335862235
>ctrl+f
>not a single mention of Yhorm's Great Machete
Fucking seriously? Are we all just ignoring it because it's a meme weapon? It's overused in Strength Builds for a reason.
>mfw hollow infused +10 Kirk sword with 40 luck
>Bleeding bitches with two to three hits
>Can still infuse with Carthus Rouge
>That instant state of panic when they realize the build up
This is so fucking good and it crushes in PvE aswell holy shit
>>335879769
I unlocked Yhorm's machete but my Great Axe is outdamaging it.
Then again my Great Axe is +9 and Yhorm's is only +3 at best because scale titanite
>>335879528
>fall for the dark sword meme
>try a raw astora straight sword with magic buff
>do like 20% more damage
Fucking memes
>>335879836
I really want to try out the hollow infusion since I already have a shit ton of hollowing. I was doing STR/FTH, but I might just respect to STR/LUCK since I hear it's pretty fucking good.
>>335879990
Hollow infusion scales to luck, not hollowing.
>>335879871
Post your character cause I highly doubt you're above level 60. Scaling is the stongest it has ever been in a souls game. You immediately start to see the difference near end game. I have a lucerne buffed +10 with the fire gem and it hits like paper now. Raw gems, fire gems and Deep gems remove the scaling for a straight boost, but as I just said, it falls off fast.
In Dark Souls 1 you had to be mid NG+ to start noticing the difference.
>Drang Hammers
>>335880058
And being sufficiently hollowed gives you 5 luck
>go to kill the ancient wyvern
>halfway up the path it randomly dies
>i teleport away
???
>>335880058
Hollowing gets you extra luck from Hollow weapons
>>335880085
the maracas are pretty fucking spectacular my friend
>>335879496
Does spin sweep no longer combo with R1? Haven't had any success doing this myself and I have never had a player combo a weapon art on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weq7Bfujpiw&ab_channel=AppleFrogTomatoFace
>>335879990
Sadly you only get max Luck bonus at 15 hollowing, when the transformation is "Complete"
>>335880058
You get a passive boost to luck that isn't shown if you have high hollowing, which is good for a dark ending run. You won't notice any increase in damage but +item discovery is essential on a first play through. I never removed my golden serpent ring, this is the best the series has ever been in terms of weapons, armors and shields to collect.
Any1 here can recommend me really high AR heavy weapons, been rolling with the greataxe but I wanna expand.
>>335879710
i love its damage but I can't get used to its range.
>>335880686
Dragonslayer Greataxe basically puts hair on your dick.
>>335880085
Brother!
>>335880076
+10 RAW ASS with magic crystal weapon has something like 515 AR with 35 INT. Dark sword probably comes out on top with 40/40 str/dex refined but that's a whole other level of stat investment. When going through the game the BUFFED ASS makes everything else look terrible and it hurts like a motherfucker later on too with little stat investment. Hilarious to pull that fucker out in pvp after rolling around in robes shooting farron darts or some garbage to get the enemies guard down.
>>335880686
Gundyr halberd or FUGS are goat.
>>335880729
I don't think I want a hairy dick
>>335880686
heavy greataxe, heavy great mace, and heavy machete are the best AR for strength weapons probably
i got up to 600 AR with great club
>>335880686
Black Knight Greataxe is 700 AR at 40/40
>>335880729
>puts hair on your dick
And that's... good???
>>335870638
I'd include the BK Glaive in there as well. Really solid weapon.
>Doing a pyromancy run
>Weapons really falling short damage wise compared to CFO
>mfw chaos and dark infusion
>>335880858
>>335880934
Look at the smooth-dicked fools.
I hear you get a new weapon from combining the princes two weapons. What's it named, I wanna look it up.
>>335880729
Do you actually have to invest in faith? Pretty bad if that's the case.
>>335880934
What are you, gay?
>>335881061
No. Pure strength build was over 600 AR at ~45 strength. It hits like a truck.
>>335880956
>mfw Chaos +10 Astora Great Sword
>>335881020
I have pubic hair and on my balls, but on the shaft? Fuck off that's fucking weird.
>>335874450
Mah nig
>>335880729
I already have hair going halfway up the shaft, it sucks.
I love Yhorm's machete.
>>335880956
Great Chaos Fire Orb is broken as fuck. It does absolutely insane damage.
>literally zero stat investment
>one shots most enemies at long range with a very quick cast time
>almost all bosses are weak to fire
you don't even need a weapon once you get it. Just run around 1shot killing knights
What's a fun non-boss weapon? I'm playing with a Raw Astora Sword, and it's fun but kind of boring at this point.
>tfw you pvp with caestus to gimp yourself
I don't know why, but gimping feels so good.
>>335881140
Jesus fuck, what are all those statuses about?
>>335865675
Hey that's a really neat original idea man! Upvote :3
>>335881273
>using a meme metagame weapon
>calling it gimping
I'll just assume you don't realize it has the best parry in the game
I'm seeing fags with that shit constantly laying on the L2 button
>>335880956
What weapons do well with chaos? I decided to stick with axes on my pyro, but they all seem to be doing garbage damage. Just running with no infusion seems to do more damage.
>>335881296
From left to right
>Voice chat on
>Critical attacks give FP
>Drop stats buff
>Estus recovery buff
>Phantom roll
>Dried fingers.
>>335881296
left to right:
Ring of the Evil Eye, Covetous Silver Serpent, Estus Ring (who the fuck actually uses that?), Carthus Milkring, Dried Fingers
>>335881296
>not sure
>silver serpent ring
>estus ring
>one of the tumble rings from the crypt
>dried fingers to keep getting invaded
You really should play the game before coming into threads, anon
Hollowslayer greatsword is the shit.
slightly less damage than black knight sword but
>pretty low stamina cost
>excellent moveset
>shield-fucking special attack
>quick enough to contend in pvp but hard hitting enough to kill regular mobs in 1-2 hits
>cool scabbard
>lightweight for a gs
I'm always killin invaders after they try shielding on me. Shield = shield break, shield --> attack = get hit by my next hit, no shield = you better be good at parrying because I'm great at switching attack speeds
I'm lovin it.
How's the flamberge and bleed?
>>335862554
Dragonslayer Spear is pretty good too. If you hit them with the L2 it's pretty much over.
>>335881420
>Axes
>Strength scaling weapons
>As a pyro
Full. Retard.
You need so many stats, that you won't have room for anything. You need high Faith and Int to do damage, high FP to cast more than 2 spells, high Hp to take more than 2 hits and some Dex since you will want a weapon to use and dex gets a small bonus to spell casting and are light enough that your lack of strength won't be so detrimental.
You want high dex scaling weapons, anon. Putting chaos and dark gems on things that don't even use your best stats to scale isn't good. You can get some use out of it for funsies, but you're hurting yourself, pun intended.
Rapiers, daggers, curved swords is where you want to be.
>>335880251
i don't think so. i've tried it a couple times in the past few minutes and the dues were able to get out as early as after the first hit of my weapon art. i think alot of it is just players not getting out because the move is foreign to them. something i noticed after doing the full spill of my full r2 weapon art combo is that the swing you're able to do right after can be delayed which might be good for baiting. and i think it's self evident but i was being retarded and having fun when i was using that hammer while fatrolling so i was winning by pure absurdity as well. i wish i could tell you more. but it seems like it could actually be a pretty good weapon
>>335881420
the strongest weapon for a pyromancer is a raw weapon with Carthus Flame Arc.
The objectively best weapon is the Raw Astora Straight Sword, but if you want to use something that's crap feel free to shop around
>>335881952
You only need two attunement slots as a Pyromancer
1: Great Chaos Fire Orb
2: flame weapon buff
that's it. Everything else will be ignored and forgotten
>>335865550
this is Fromsoft's fault for making most weapons shit
Why are all the greatswords so bad? No poise while swinging a heavy slow ass weapon that deals about as much damage as a straight sword per hit while using about 3 times as much stamina and weighing 3-4 times as much isn't worth it. Garbage balance. I'm still mad that I had to beat the game with a heavy broadsword because of how shit most strength weapons are.
>>335882043
>he doesn't Fire Whip->GCFO
How are the drang Twinspears for PVE and PVP respectively?
>>335862235
was das1 just as horribly unbalanced on release too?
What are some good str weapons??
>>335882165
Good and great
As long as you know how to deal with people who know that parrying exists
I've tried boss weapons but they just seem a lot weaker than my Dark Sword +10.
I have 60/60 in str/dex right now, they just all are weak, I wish they'd buffed some of them
>>335882043
>that's it. Everything else will be ignored and forgotten
That's really fucking stupid. Why roll a pyro if you're just going to use 2 spells and be a try hard? Two spells that you don't even need to be a pyromancer for, since GCFO has no requirements and the flame weapon buff is just a generic buff that all spell schools get. That's even worse than dark sword using faggots, much worse. At least they don't make builds revolving around just the dark sword. I'm mad you even made that comment. Kill yourself.
You're suggestion sums up as:
>Build in a very specific way
>To use 2 spells
Why the FUCK even roll pyro then????
?????
>>335882192
it was much, MUCH worse
Dual weapons seem to be splitting up the damage when you two hand them. If I buff them, do both hits apply the full buff damage or does it get split?
>>335882215
How about the weapon skill? I can't figure out a use for it.
>>335873516
OH MY GOD
i love it
moonlight is my love in all ds games but bb version is the best of them
>>335882214
dark sword. using big slow weps is suicide because poise is broken and people can just smack you out of your attack animation.
>>335882486
>>335873516
How did you mod rune 2hander into the game?
>>335881952
I figured.
I just liked the idea of my pyro upgrading from his baby hand axe to something greater in the same weapon line, but I suppose it's not meant to be.
>>335880131
This happened exactly to me and I was so fucking confused. Do you think it fell or something?
>>335869552
That curved axe thing the snake people in Dragon Mart drop.
So I'm a newfag DaSIII player who started out Knight.
When was I supposed to drop the Lucerne for something else? I'm already past Curse-Rotted Greatwood.
>>335882628
I read a sign saying falling attack but it died before i got the chance to do it. I guess the only reasonable explanation is it did fall.
>>335882192
RING
OF
FOG
>>335882124
>had to
git gud fagit.
>>335882192
>flip ring worked at 50%
>fog ring made you untargetable
>crystal ring shield projectile used your weapon's AR making it stupid strong
>claymore being even faster and stunlocked stupid easily
>TWOP and the Stone Greatsword
It was worse, anybody who says otherwise never played launch/early DaS1.
i like to summon grapes for pvp more than reds or gold. grapes are ABSOLUTE MADMEN
>>335882628
>Do you think it fell or something?
Seems plausible. Maybe during the "flying" segment where it tries to hit you with flame breath it didn't reset to its natural position correctly and fell.
>>335867567
Running 1.06, still only the one for 30K (totally fine imo)
>>335882773
nah those greatswords were just too bad, like it literally pained me to use such weak weapons
>>335882736
As long as you enjoy using it and it keeps up damage wise for you then you're doing fine. The Lucerne is a pretty nice polearm.
>>335881248
Rapport is also beastly on big guys
>>335881112
While it's strong, my chaos lothric knight sword does 500 damage as a pyro without buffs. It's fucking stupid that my chaos astora gs does only 650. Also you ned to put massive investment to get damage comparable to quality builds. This is why the meta level is so fucked. Quality builds reach their peak early on and can invest in vig while a pyor is still working on balancing out int faith and att.
>>335882962
Does rapport work on 2dogs1basement?
>>335869886
Isn't the uchi faster? Respec'd into a hollow washing late game and while it's super nice assumed other katanas had more get up and go to em
>>335882736
>Not maining the Lucerne
I just wish I had some fucking combos. Supposedly you can R1->L2->R2 but I have had zero success.
But otherwise Lucerne has a very versatile moveset and has deceptively strong damage thanks to thrust. C/C like every quality but also has good FAITH/INT scaling with infusion as well.
>>335882564
>I just liked the idea of my pyro upgrading from his baby hand axe to something greater
It's a vidya gaem, play it how you find it fun, even if it isn't the best. Long as you know, there's always the respec option with the covenant of Rosaria's fingers. I'm respecing as a mage this pvp weekend and plan to invade while using the chameleon spell and fog ring to be an asshat as I farm covenants.
I just want to pop out of disguise and blast niggas with souls stream really.
So if I wanted to model myself after the tower knight how would I go about doing that? Any recommendations?
>>335882764
DARK
WOOD
GRAIN
RING
>>335882789
Claymore was fine pre-nerf desu
Greatest tragedy was them nerfing the hollow knight shield
Thank fuck they increased souls across the board you got like 800 souls or some shit from beating the belfry gargoyles
Why does the Butcher Knife start with A strength scaling, while also being fast? I tried using it on my second run, but it was so good it felt like cheating
>>335883064
Works on humanoids. Check the wiki
>>335883324
Don't forget the leather set and BKGA
>>335882139
fire whip sucks
>>335882371
I'm not my fault FROM only put 2 pyromancies that aren't shit into the game
>>335882192
Flippy Dippy gave you fast roll at 50%. So everyone their mother just used that and a FaP.
TWoP had retarded range and duration. So if you got caught in it you weren't going anywhere.
Magic Shield would make you completely invulnerable to all damage but bleed and poison for its duration. You have 5 uses and it lasted for 15 seconds.
Crystal Ring Shield's damage scaled off the AR of your right hand weapon. So you could shoot beams of light that did like 1400 magic damage at people.
Fog Ring turned you partially invisible and made it impossible to lock on to you.
There's probably more but those are all I remember. I think WoG was nerfed too.
>>335883470
>he doesn't enjoy doing 1k+ damage combos
>>335882371
Great Chaos Orb has no stat requirements so if you have nothing better to do it's a nice go-to to have in your otherwise un-used attunement slot.
I'm not sure why they added Int/Fai requirements on so many of them when Pyromancies are supposed to be for those who dont' want to invest into those stats
>>335876131
did you use password matching? Because your damage gets scaled down heavily if your level difference is too high.
>>335883492
>Crystal Ring Shield
oh shit I forgot all about that. That was glorious
also, don't forget about that Dragon Head glitch that let you shoot out an infinite stream of any item, including throwing daggers or prism stones
>>335883428
All I remember was that people said the burger king was shit for pvp, but I used it anyway on my first playthrough, which started before 1.04 but ended after it (which is why I knew about the hollowshield nerf)
>>335883492
>Crystal ring shield
Holy fuck I completely forgot, crystal soul mass got a damage decrease too from memory (we later got the pursuer soul mass though anyway)
WoG definitely had a damage nerf too, did like 600-800 damage instead of 1200+
>>335882789
Yeah thank god they fixed that in DaS3
>Carthus Milkring gives you 36 iframes compared to 14 for the Flip Ring (that 14 would be 28 if DaS1 was 60hz like 3)
>It also has ZERO weight requirements at all
>You get 28 iframes by default while midrolling, so normal midroll is equivalent to flip ring
>Obscuring Ring literally makes you invisible
>Straight Swords with 500+ AR stunlocking better than DaS1 Claymore
WHY DO LARGE WEAPONS DO THE SAME DAMAGE AS STRAIGHT SWORDS
WHY DO DODGE-ATTACKS DO LIKE 25% LESS DAMAGE THAN NORMAL ATTACKS
WHY IS POISE A MARKED STAT THAT DOES NOTHING
WHY IS THE ESTOC SO INCREDIBLY BROKEN FOR PvP
WHY IS MAGIC OF ALL FORMS SO GARBAGE UNTIL YOU PUMP IT TO LIKE 70+ AT WHICH POINT YOU COULD HAVE HAD PERFECT MELEE STATS FOR HOURS
WHY IS THE BALANCE OF EVERYTHING SO UTTERLY RECTALLY ANNIHILATED
AND WHY ARE FALCHIONS NOW THE RAREST MOTHERFUCKING DROP IN THE GAME OTHER THAN FUCKING TITANITE FUCKING SLABS
>>335883726
git gud
>>335883630
It was NG+ nameless king when I was on NG, regular r1s did like 70 damage.
>>335883564
yes I do love doing 1k+ damage, that's why I throw a great chaos fire orb and do 1k damage at long range, plus 300 damage lava
What's better putting magic on a weapon or just leaving it? Is the scaling better or is about the same?
>>335883726
you have to git gud
>>335883835
Every weapon in the game is better Raw than magic until like 50+ intelligence.
>>335883940
That's what I figured. I don't mean magic buff specifically though, all of them. Fire, dark, lightning etc.
>>335883835
Having INT/FAITH scaling for an INT/FAITH build is great on the surface. Having split damage and being unable to enchant your weapons sucks balls.
>>335883940
>>335883835
even at 50 int you should be using a raw weapon with crystal magic weapon if possible
>>335883760
>>335883921
do you like memes?
i love memes!!!
do you know the cake is a lie meme its so funny lol
>Enemy jailor uses smoldering iron to stunlock me forever and do a million damage
>I use it
>Very little damage
>Doesn't stunlock
Wut?
>>335884105
the smouldering iron in pvp prevents people from using estus flask
>>335884229
for like half a second
If it lasted as long as a lloyd's talisman it'd be great
>>335873790
every weapon is okay for pve except maybe the pure stabbing weapons like the rapiergun and spear gun.
This is because there are entire rooms filled with spiders that require a weapon with aoe damage like the giant hammer sword in the game.
>>335884363
Fuck chalice dungeon red spiders. That was probably the worst fucking part of the later ones.
>>335884363
You don't need AOE if you aren't dumb enough to walk into a group of enemies. "Pure stabbing weapons" tend to allow you to attack with a shield raised. Combined with a great shield and you have EZ mode.
>>335883726
>>335883760
this desu oni chan
>>335884514
talking about bloodborne
Is it worth swapping to Witch's Locks as a pyromancer? Right now i'm just using a generic chaos straight sword.
Worth making the switch? I use mainly pyromancy, it's just more of an offhand weapon for occasional use, but is it even viable?
>>335884514
>BB
>shields
Check the reply chain.
>invaded by some tacobell wifi fuck
>he runs off when he starts losing
>it's been like ten minutes
Can invaders eventually time out or am I stuck with the waiting game?
>>335884607
>>335884585
Whoops. That explains the "gun" part I suppose.
>>335862554
You can build specifically for the Dancer's blades and make them workable but they're still a one-trick gimmick weapon that relies entirely on killing people in the WA stunlock.
who /softban/ here
>>335884613
>invade some tacobell wifi fuck
>he and another phantom are waiting for me
>they start running in place i'm like wtf i better run too
>i'm dead 5 seconds later and they're gesturing on my corpse
>>335884613
You might be able to fuck with him using a giant seed if mobs are still alive.
Do you need to two hand to weapon art?
I don't know why people say the Dark Sword is the most OP weapon because I think the BKGA deserves that title. I have about 45 STR & 25 DEX and it has an AR of over 650. This shit absolutely wrecks the fuck out of everything.
>>335884827
Enemies are alive, no seed. He's probably hiding around the crabs or BB monsters. I just wanted to try farron pvp for fucks sake.
>>335865550
>summoned by darksword user.
>point at the fog gate, he walks in.
>I don't.
>just sit down until he dies.
>>335881395
>best parry
Thats very debatable. It may be the fastest parry, but it also has the fewest parry frames. Parrying shields and parrying dagger have much more lenient parry windows. Your timing with a caestus has to be dead on or you gon' get fucked.
>>335884613
You can always enter boss area and immediately Homeward Bone to bonfire.
>>335884601
At 30/30 int/faith and 18 dex Witch's Lock L2's do around 800 damage if all the hits connect.
Do it.
>>335885043
He just showed up. Bodied him. Switched from katana to farron sword for some reason. Thanks for the advice anyway.
>>335884917
greataxes in general are pretty obscene
>>335882043
Thats 3 retard.
>>335884917
It's OP because I can stunlock with it faster than sorry-ass GA while having quality damage.
Whats the word on yhorms weapon. I personally love it. I was using a build that was something like this (off the top of my head cus im at work)
50 str i also like using the fume sword
25 or something vigor and endurance
Whopping 38 vitality
15 dex
Faraam set or whatever the das2 set was i called
Yhorms and heavy dark sword
Whatever shield
Favor, havels, chloranthy, forgot last ring
I usually start by having the dark sword out and after a couple swing switch it up to yhorms and almost noone expects it landing 2 free hits finishing a lot of people off
>>335885574
>meme sword
eeeeehh get out
>>335877925
christ wish I could make it that high
How much AR should I have with Dark Sword?
I'm at 412 right now but I don't know if I should go higher or not
>>335881039
Twin Princes Great sword, I use it and I love it.
>>335885805
Is it heavy? Because you're wasting your time if it isnt heavy.
Anything below 40 STR is too little, Anything above is unnecessary.
>>335885912
>Twin Princes Great sword
How much AR at 40/40?
>>335884105
It's shit on it's own. It's cause the jailors gaze is depleting your max hp
>>335885805
What sort of person would go and post shit bait like this every day
>>335882192
Yes. PC babbies won't remember it because they had a pre-patched version, but yes.
I killed the final boss with one hit of Homing Crystal Soulmass.
>>335886015
AR?
>>335883726
>>335883726
>WHY DO LARGE WEAPONS DO THE SAME DAMAGE AS STRAIGHT SWORDS
Not true
WHY DO DODGE-ATTACKS DO LIKE 25% LESS DAMAGE THAN NORMAL ATTACKS
I've not noticed this at all.
>WHY IS POISE A MARKED STAT THAT DOES NOTHING
Because Armor exists.
>WHY IS THE ESTOC SO INCREDIBLY BROKEN FOR PvP
It's not, learn to parry spamming auto-tracking retards
>WHY IS MAGIC OF ALL FORMS SO GARBAGE UNTIL YOU PUMP IT TO LIKE 70+ AT WHICH POINT YOU COULD HAVE HAD PERFECT MELEE STATS FOR HOURS
Magic is always garbage in PvP, you could always dodge it.
>WHY IS THE BALANCE OF EVERYTHING SO UTTERLY RECTALLY ANNIHILATED
It's more balanced than all the other games except Souls 2 after 20 balancing patches.
What's the meta level right now? SL90 and not getting shit.
>>335885692
I use it to lure people into a false sense that im another dark sword user with nothing else. The yhorms is my wep. I dont switch back after i whip it out.
eeeeehh answer my original question
>>335886242
What area? SL90 should get plenty of action.
>>335886240
>pressing l2 over and over again takes infinite skill!
>>335886240
>not noticed means it isn't true
hurr
>>335886089
Attack Rating, Also known as damage
>>335886305
That's my point, you can spam parry and it beats the Estoc spamming shitters.
Estoc only seems good if you panic roll and keep getting auto tracked.
>ring does literally nothing at all
>there is a "+1" and "+2" version of this ring that does nothing
>three rings that literally have no effect at all aside from using up a ring slot and adding some encumbrance
bravo, FROM
>>335886418
You don't even have to resort to parrying, either. Just roll away from the guy instead of into him and use a weapon with superior reach.
>>335879836
>bleed in pve
lolno
>bleed in pvp
Only against people who wear no armor and don't know you can just roll to avoid the bleed damage
It's shit
>>335886621
>Only against people who wear no armor and don't know you can just roll to avoid the bleed damage
You can fucking do that?
Holy shit
>>335886442
You forgot
>ring requires 30 grass
Anybody know a good ceastus build?
>>335886807
99 str.
>>335886807
Ceastus in left hand, large weapon in right hand, hornet ring on your finger
>>335886868
fuck you beat me to it
>>335886807
There isn't one, Caestus are garbage in 3. There's too much startp on the attack animation compared to DaS2 Caesti.
>>335886621
>He doesnt know the power of bleeding out a boss for 10% of their hp 5-6 times during the fight
>Absolutely destroying any "challenging" bosses
>Turn Nameless King and Lord of Cinder to chump change
not him but you severly underestimate bleed my dude
>>335886240
>>335886418
>>335886483
This doesn't work with the amount of lag I get from Ausfailia.
>>335885138
Domt forget the last poke it gives. Has some scary range on it.
>>335887004
nah
>>335866243
>>335866243
Should of gone with the rapier in my run. Crystal hail is complete garbage. I sure love wasting all my FP on a 50 damage spell.
>Doing some sun medals grinding with old demon king
>Host rightfully so hides behind the body piles so he doesn't get hit while I try to do it
>Eventually Old Demon King does his melee combo and swings through the body piles hitting the host and killing him
100% bullshit.
>>335887157
>tfw I completely botched up my Int playthrough
>>335886868
>>335886951
But I wanted to punch shit.
>>335887208
Fight the Deacons instead. They take no time to kill and won't likely kill the host either.
>>335886302
Anywhere, really. I'm on NG+ if it matters.
>>335887304
play dark souls 2 then. Fist weapons are crap in dark souls 3. For some reason throwing a punch takes as long as swinging a great hammer. They should have made fist weapons as fast as rapiers but they didn't.
>>335887365
I've heard NG+ doesn't matter. Try invading in Lothric Castle.
Are Winged knight's twin axes any good? I just want to dualwield axes.
>>335887480
Sure. For some reason retards think you'll just stop spinning and just run into you.
>>335873093
is morens hammer actuially good?
damage seems pretty meh compared to dragonslayer greataxe (what im using now.)
>>335887480
Yeah, they have a good weapon art and high damage
like all double weapons in DS3 though, you're better off using just one stronger weapon. There's no advantages to two weapons, unlike Dark Souls 2 where it gave more damage
>>335887578
The only reason to use the Moron Hammer is because of the weapon art
Whats a good straight sword for quality besides Dark Sword?
What does the Twin Princes' Greatsword scale with? I remember shooting darts with the holy skill and it barely doing any damage, fire skill was about 150 when it hit.
>>335887690
Lothric Knight. Literally the swaggest fucking sword.
>>335887601
I named my character Khorne's Berzerker, so I need to dualwield axes, I NEED IT!
Going to be a kamikaze-tier invader, no emotes, no camping, no retreating, just pure rage and berserking.
>>335887690
Literally 80% of weapons are better as quality/Refined than Heavy or Sharp.
>>335887578
It's mediocre. The weapon art has huge poise and is the main strength.
>>335887779
just spam the spin attack and you'll probably win most fights
also, massive tip for you friend: put a "Simple" infused weapon on your offhand. When you duel wield the axes, the simple weapon will be put in the sheath but will keep generating FP, and you only need more than zero FP to initiate a full power weapon art. You can literally do constant, never ending spins
>>335887970
That's a cool tip, thanks anon babe
>>335887690
Theres a reason why all these shitteres use the Dark Sword. Its simply the best straight sword.
>>335888064
>Pirated game
>Using dark sword
>mfw can choose whether or not to install patch that will nerf it
get fucked buycucks
>>335888129
>nerfing dark sword
this will never happen
>>335877819
the design reminds me of the blueblood sword. maybe it has secret luck scaling!
is the straightsword or the broadword viable in pve? asking for a friend
>>335888258
Straight swords are generally the most powerful weapon class for pve.
>>335887690
Sunlight Straight Sword
you can only reply to this post if you have platinum/1000 GS/whatever pcucks have
>>335888575
dont tell me what to do. you are not my mom
>>335888575
We just have 40 achievements.
>>335888575
I cheatengine'd all of the achievements
Does that count?
>Got Dark Souls 3.
>Getting ready for my Caestus run like I did in Dark Souls 1 and 2.
>Turns out they're fucked beyond repair.
Holy shit I can't even parry with it. Attacking takes forever considering the damage output. Makes me sad.
One of the things I loved about Dark Souls 2...
>>335888818
The only thing I liked about two was making fist weapons viable. Shame we didn't get the dragon bone fist in it, or in 3, and a damn shame 3 didn't keep the punching mechanics of two or bring over the bone fist. That shit was fun as fuck.
Started to use Lorian GS now.
10/10 damage and hyper armor
What do the twin prince greatsword's special attacks scale with?
>>335870237
How are you going to spend your points ? I made a cleric but don't want to fuck up. Do you spend pure faith ore are you going in some int points too.
>>335882892
It's not that greatswords are bad it's that straight swords are way too strong and easy mode.
So are reapers just straight up shit? I'm leveling a pyromancer for PvP and intend on using Witch's Locks mostly once I get to archives, but I kinda want another option for a weapon. The corvian great scythe +10 has A/A int/fth scaling with chaos infusion according to the wiki, but I'm not sure if it's worth using.
>>335889497
I think Astora Greatsword gets good scaling when infused.
>Enjoyed dual-wielding whips in DS2
>Double Old/Notched/Spotted
>Most of whips got raped in DS3
>Can't powerstance
>Can't even backstab
I miss whips.
>>335884917
I'm so glad the black knight weapons got their movesets back after the butchering they got in 2.
>>335890364
>can't backstab with whips
*le giggle*
>>335888818
>>335888980
Does Formsoft buff/patch weapon statistics often? Or do they just nerf shit to the ground if it's too prevalent?
The standard broadsword is the best weapon in the game.
>>335873220
I'm using a great scythe on my current build.
It's clearly inferior to straight swords and what not. Fast enemies are a pain in my fucking ass since the scythe has a semi sluggish move set. It range and unpredictable swings tend to throw people off on PvP though. Damage is respectable.
I use a great scythe in one hand and an ithryll sword in the other. It's pretty effective actually.
Is there a viable dark magic build out there
How the FUCK do you use the sword in the Yorm fight?
>hit man with +x raw sword, minimum stat investment
180 damage let's say
>hit man with +x pyromancy hand fire orb, with 20/20 investment, estus flasks dedicated to FP, and not insignificant FP consumption, as well as an attack so slow and telegraphed it can only be used safely against the slowest enemies, and never in PvP
180 damage
WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT
>>335891803
What? Chaos Orb require no stats and hits ~800.
>>335891385
no lol
>>335891906
That's great
Why have a pyromancer build
>>335891687
Hold the weapon art button until it gets completely coated with swirly, then heavy attack. You'll know when you're doing it right.
>>335891803
Range for PVE bosses I guess? Non-buff Magic has always been kinda meh for pvp except for maybe homing soulmass variants but that isn't that strong either
>All my favorite weapons can't be buffed or infused
life is suffering
>>335892105
>range
I am now using a bow, which does comperable damage faster and with no resources used (except you could argue 5 or 10 souls per arrow, but that's jack) and has more range and the projectiles go straight to their target.
Why does magic exist
>>335892204
>all those weapons with FAI reqs that don't actually use FAI or aren't good
>>335862235
>tfw when enjoying Corwian scythe, with the good reach, fairly fast attack and good damage but the weapon art is fucking useless
I don't get it why they decided to make the weapon art that requires you to aim and hit a certain piece of the body be so slow and telegraphed.
Just... Why? It's already bad enough that we only have 3 scythes and the one that got cut out looked fucking great, but did they have to make the weaponart supershit? It's not good in PVE nor PVP.
>>335879496
Looks like a Smup run is going to be fun.
>>335892376
Weapon Balancing, DS3 FROM style:
>is it a straight sword?
>yes
BUFF IT
>no
KILL IT
>>335892105
I was trying that, but he barely gives you any time to charge up holy shit he's relentless.
>>335883069
>>Not maining the Lucerne
>not red-hilted Halberd
Either way I'm pissed that pole-arms can't do block attacks anymore.
>>335892529
Fucking From. I still enjoy my scythe though, it's very good in PVE in my opinion and useful in PVP as well. Use it along with Lothric Knight Sword and Astora Greatsword, all infused with refined gems since I'm going with a 40 dex and 40 strength build, because fuck the police.
Really enjoying it too since all three weapons are different and good for different things. Greatsword is slow as fuck but does huge amounts of damage, SCythe is the middle ground and the Knight sword is the fast weapon that's also good for fucking up shieldfags.
It just makes me feel sad that I can't use the scythe weaponart. I like the idea of it but they should've just made it a quick swing.
Only thing that bothers me about the Dark Sword is that it's hard to gauge its range when you're fighting someone using it.
>>335885956
Refined infusion gets much better AR at 40/40
>>335892317
Sorceries have tracking, Pyros require minimal stat investment, and Lightning spear(and variants) is fairly fast plus does bonus damage at melee range. Honestly almost all of them are better for their utility spells not so much the direct damage ones. Still I did a pure caster build my first go around and didn't run into any huge roadblocks so while not optimal magic is very well still viable.
>>335892609
Well remember you don't have to go all whirly death on his ass right away, you can keep the charge for a bit after letting WA button go so charge up then roll away if he attacks THEN punish his ass. Guessing Onion Bro helping you out is a no go?
Is there a reason why the Farron and Wolf Knight greatswords do bonus damage to almost every boss?
Lucerneboys WW@
Is it worth using the L2>R2 combo in PVP?
>>335893130
Apparently does bonus damage to abyss enemies, which a lot of the bosses are infected by. I think the only Lord of Cinder NOT to be abyssal are the twin princes
>>335871589
Shit damage. Only works on retards that have never seen the weapon before. It'd be ok if it was a greatsword not UGS.
how do i get more refined gems?
>tfw still no proper sabers
at least the Carthus sword is ballin.
>>335894365
Farm that red-eye knight by the dancer's room.
>>335892609
you can roll while holding charge
>Invade as an Aldric Faithful
>Host won't stop running away
>Turns into a Benny Hill episode
So guys, no love for the good ol' warpick? I always wanted to try this thing from DaS, I'm truly having a blast using it on a strength build with heavy infusion. I almost forgot I have equivalently upgraded executioner sword (strike damage is neat) and zwei (I'd like to change it with the cathedral gs but these knights fuckers seem to be pretty attached to their weapons)
Also, what boss souls weapon would you advise me to upgrade on a STR INT built? I suppose there aren't good ones that could take advantage of my stats, I'm sticking to normal weapons, mainly for buffs (40/32, 14 dex...this could change because basing it on previous games, I thought 14 was a good treshold for many weapons, instead 16 seems to be the magic number)
>>335886240
Why does everyone use the Carthus Milkring like a fag
>>335896162
Moonlight Greatsword is still an option for str/int builds, could also try the Greatsword of Judgement but yeah buffing up a normal weapon could probably outdo both of them
>>335896274
3 free dex
>>335896693
Yeah, sadly I noticed the split damage on the mlgs. Which is partly a shame (hopefully they'll fix it in future patches) but is also not that bad because I used it in the other games and was starting to feel a bit stale. Which is the same reason I'm not using the zwei that much now that I'm in late game.
Also, are the winged knight axes viable? I tried them but I don't like the wa very much, maybe I used them at the wrong time but trying to dispatch the pack of mobs with it almost got me killed, the damage was subpar
>>335897212
Damage on halberds is just shit in general.
>>335896854
>thinking a ring slot, the most valuable equipment slot in the entire game, is worth 3 dex
>>335897212
The TwinAxes? Dunno ran a dex/casting build so it didn't really fall in my radar though running a pure melee build I found most axes pretty good this go around. Apparently the WA of the twinaxes is useful in pvp but other than that its okay. My only gripe with it is that the Regular axe WA(and the charge it adds to strong attack) makes axes really good for dealing with PVE assholes like the shieldless Pontiff knights so its a mixed bag. Honestly though if a weapon's moveset fits your style you can probably make it viable in some way(except for fists and whips, jesus christ what did they do to those weapons)
>>335897271
>>335897809
Yeah I was talking about these, thanks for the replies anyway. Never liked halberds in general. The only other axe I tried was eleonora,found it to be quite useful (and pretty sexy) when recharging health before bosses.
>>335885574
Yhorm's weapon is good.
Is this any good? I'm struggling to find a good boss dex wep
>>335862235
guys do i get any ending if i skip nameless king and go straight on final boss?
>>335898247
Hollowslayer greatsword is a better dex weapon than that thing.
>>335898620
No the game keeps going forever.
>>335898051
Ahh apparently the weapon buff from generic axes' WA warcry overwrites other weapon buffs like magic weapon so yeah I think that makes the TwinAxes a better choice if you like axe movesets
>>335898247
Its an okay choice for sustaining throughout a level when paired with the evil eye ring. Hollowslayer greatsword is also pretty good might even be better since it has a bonus against hollows which makes up a bulk of the enemies in the game and has a good moveset. Storm curved sword is pretty good but that requires killing NK. Farron Greatsword could also be useful if it wasn't such a huge stamina drain
Which is the best PvE weapon that isn't a straightsword or dark sword?
>>335898979
Warden Twinblades, probably
>>335892609
Fuck how bad are you cunt? Its the easiest boss in the game.
>>335898775
so i can't go ng+ than and im fuckd?
>>335898979
BKGA
>>335892609
>relentless
lol if Yhorm is relentless for you don't even bother facing Champ Gundyr
>>335879007
Ironically, it's best move (the rolling L1) is so fast it means you can parry immeadatly when they roll at you and either catch it or be out of the parry animation in time for anything else and still roll away. I have much less trouble with it now than normal straight swords.
>>335862235
>best soul weapons in DS3?
I'm running around with Artorias' sword and while it's not actually that good, in terms of damage or speed, you would be surprised how many times I've caught people with the somersault. They always panic after that.
Is Moonlight any good in this? I made a sorceror for it, but I got a bit bored and started a pyromancer instead.
It's a shame Moonlight is just a boss soul weapon. I was hoping for an entirely new, or modified Moonlight with its own lore.
I guess it would be hard to top Bloodborne's Moonlight, both as a weapon and a lore piece.
>>335900862
Split damage with physical and magic, low magic scaling, a rather pointless L2, and it just looks worse and swings worse than BB's version.
Still it is one of the better magic weapons in the game.
>>335895798
>summoned as Aldrich Faithful
>host hides on a ladder
>kick him to his death
>>335900742
It's an average weapon but it's carried me through ng and ng+. I got it to +5 and I can typically take out a invader or host with it pretty easily. it's served me well so far I can't really be fucked picking up another weapon
>>335874153
it actually has a fuckton of hyperarmor
>>335901394
I got it to try out on a character and just loved it so much I decided to force my way through Dancer, Oceiros and Champ Gundyr early so I could cosplay Artorias.
Now all I do is pvp as a one-armed Guts.
Did the recent update, 1.05, did it improve optimization on PC at all? Also, is 1.06 out yet, it's supposed to make getting summoned at Sentinels and Darkmoon easier.
Is Claymore or Farron GS any good for PvP ?
What about zwei?
>>335902254
Darkmoon blade here
It's a placebo
Summoning is still hella slow
>>335902354
Apparently all they did was increase the level range for being summoned.
>>335862554
>doesn't even mention the best boss weapon
>>335902716
i heard that the farron greatsword is only good for pvp
>>335902883
No. I've been using it constantly since Iupgraded it to +4. You just can't be a fag and spam the bosses with the l1.
Why can't my friend and I co-op with passwords? Neither of us has problems with summoning in general, but when we set a password we neither one of us can summmon the other.
>>335902716
Does the parry work well?
>>335903636
Yes, like most daggers. Only better parry is the caestus. Think about it like this, it gives the Shield of Want the parry of a dagger.
>>335903570
Had the same issue. If your friend is as retarded as mine don't waste your time try getting summoned or summon in a area where the boss is down.
Using bonefire and restart game maybe. Last thing would be patience.
My problem is i can't summon a second phantom when someone with pw joins me
Is the Darkmoon Longbow any good?
Am I retarded to base a build around it?
>>335904032
I thought boss status (along with level) didn't matter for PW play?
At the very least I thought he would be able to summon me to help him.
>>335878074
>food analogy
Am I the only one who chooses the weapons based on the looks?
BLUE EYE ORB WHEN
FUCK YOU FROM
REEEE
>>335862845
Maces are meh, Mostly to do with the stupid Poise or lack of it.
>>335904383
M8, the standard mace is fantastic, use the weapon art on r1 spammers and it causes them to recoil like you just parried and gives you boosted defense aswell as hyper armour. Use it just as someone does an attack every single time they try to attack and just wail on them.
>First run
>Great club
>Soul of Cinder is fucking hell
>5 tries
>Second run
>Dark sword
>Soul of Cinder is my little bitch
>Only use 4 flasks
>First try
This game is fucking bullshit with its bias against slow weapons but thats what you get from soulsborn
>>335904383
That's what Perseverance is for
>>335904335
No, I do that too. Style>substance in a souls game.
Well, that and dex scaling. Which is one reason I'm pissed I can't enchant the chaos blade.
>>335904529
The problem is once they get wise to it then you start to really feel how slow and short ranged teh mace isand swap to dark sword
How much strength and dex should I get as a pyromancer? This far I've just been pumping int, faith and att.
>>335904980
15 str 18 dex. get the Witch's lock and Astora Greatsword, infuse it with Chaos.
>>335905043
Why the astora greatsword
>>335872770
It's not shit on DaS1. Pretty good actually, both in PvE and PvP, specially on Ps3.
>>335905284
Because it scales extremely well when Infused. A/A or S. Plus it's one of the best heavy weapons in the game.
>>335904980
Depends on whether you want to be a caster or a spellsword.
>Caster
Get just enough to cover the base stats for a weapon you like, pump faith and Int and buff it with flame arc
>Spellsword
Find a weapon you like, make it sharp/heavy/refined and split your stats accordingly
How well would a pure bow build work?
>>335904610
Fucking this, should have named this game Soulsborne instead.
>>335884917
I nominate this forone ofthe most epic boss fights in soulsborne
>>335874604
It's what the Greatsword (the UGS) was in DaS. It has the same longer skinny blade. And I'm pretty sure the exact same moveset. The damage is kinda mediocre though, unlike the Greatsword.
Hi, I am unequivocally the best boss weapon.
>>335886951
>DaSII Caesti
>never seen one before here
>try to get hit once because learning how much it can hurt and stuff helps adapting a strategy for the future
>learn it's bad idea REALLY fast
>dude pumps his entire stamina bar into my stunlocked character
I still don't know how exactly I got out of there alive, but trying it myself was hell a lot of fun. Hope they return to their old form some time, because it would be enormously satisfying to puch people into pulp. Especially as golden-red phantom for some jolly murdering.
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