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Gomenasai
So how strong is that Raiki katana? i went spears for superior range
>>335820328
best weapon in the demo
>>335820380
well that sucks. whats the best spear? the Tombo?
>>335820380
Wrong
>>335820492
Best weapon in the demo
>>335820734
raikiri has 400 damage
>>335820328
Where do I get the Raiki katana?
>>335820828
finish stage 2
>>335820734
Damage output means very little.
Yokai take less damage from Axes and Spear I have noticed.
>>335820974
>damage output means very little
False
>Yokai take less damage from Axes and Spear I have noticed
Maybe you're using shitty axes and spears
>>335821284
game says my Axe does more than my Sword.
Yokai seem to deem otherwise.
So can we officially say:
PS4 got its second must have game?
>>335820218
Sorry for what?Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks.
How's the game, guys? Haven't been able to play due to work.
Spears are satisfying as fuck.
Haven't fucked with low stance much, though. Medium stance seems fast enough. The only thing I can see using low stance for is positioning.
>>335820885
I finished stage 2 and I don't think I got shit
does it just pop up in your inventory without telling you?
>>335821653
the areas have rewards for completing them
it should be in your inventory
how do I git gud? I want to enjoy this game really badly but I'm unable to because I'm so fucking bad at it.
>>335821579
>How's the game, guys? Haven't been able to play due to work.
It's pretty fucking amazing.
Of course it's a vertical slice, so stuff like variety, pacing and story could end up being bad, but it really is a beefy demo. Takes inspiration from a ton of games but stands tall as it's own game ultimately.
You start out underleveled and the the inventory micromanagement is pretty tedious though.
This game has the potential to be great but it rides entirely on how good the new enemies and bosses will be I think. The demo is good and I hope the full game will have a lot of enemy variety/a lot of levels.
>>335821579
Absolutely fucking amazing. I've been waiting for this since it was first announced when I was in middle school, and it's better than I thought it could be. I legitimately can't think of a better game that's come out this decade, but maybe that's just me.
>>335821613
Low stance is good for footsies and dodging one-hits.
>>335821834
These might help
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/181161-nioh/73652896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXOu1wG70_k
>>335821834
Step 1: Learn to not be a spaz with the analog stick.
Step 2: Learn the timing of Ki and pressing R1 at the right time after an attack.
???????
Profit!
>>335821579
Pretty good.
Forces you to not suck dick and learn the basics because everything can 1 shot you.
Your shit breaks quick and a careless and reckless style of play costs you your life.
Then you get good equipment and levels and you gain more and more weapon techniques and tools to make fights go smoother.
You can be a ninja and dodge everying.
Be a rock that can blokc and shrug off like 80% of all attacks.
Or be the middle ground focusing on Parries and shit
Or you can be awesome and play the game the correct way by mixing and matching Styles and weapon switch for each occasion. instead of being a 1 style one weapon plebeian.
>>335822078
Does Ki pulsing actually reduce enemy stamina?
>Who level 1 run hereSeriously though anyone having trouble should stick with it. The start is much harder before it "clicks". with you
they're not souls they're amrita
>>335822003
This tutorial is trash, he doesn't mention key things.
How do I beat boat demon?
>>335822194
Blood echoes*
>>335822164
I don't think so, unless you mean that ki stun you can do with the katana. Ki pulse with R1 just regains your own stamina.
>>335821959
i would say you're underage but then I remembered this fucking thing has been in development hell since 2004.
>>335822373
but souls is right in that statement senpai
>>335822358
Be patient.
The entire fight is dodge/block + one or two pokes then repeat.
Not a huge fan of that fight 2bh.
>>335822164
No. that Sword burst thing you can do at the end of a combo does. but it only really works for yokai. Kicking works best for Humans.
>>335822589
well blood echoes are also the exact same thing so it's not wrong
Is anyone else getting the cannot connect message over and over again right now despite being online?
I DID IT!!! I finally beat Nue! And on my fourth try! FUCK YEAR! This demo is fucking amazing, if the final game is anywhere near this good, it's a day one buy.
Who else /nue/ here?
>>335823240
Do you get anything for beating Nue?
anything like that DLC for beating the ship Yokai?
I wish there was some kind of cosmetic item you get for beating Nue, like how you get the main dlc for beating Onryoku.
Oh well, still a cool demo.
>>335823327
No DLC. You get the Katana "Raikiri" which is the strongest weapon in the demo.
So is there any chance we'll be seeing this on PC?
>>335823240
Not /nue/ yet because I ran out of Elixrs first time fighting him but I have 10 in my inventory and I'm ready to fucking go.
>>335823542
I think Sony were actually involved in getting this game made so probably not.
Anyone figure out how to pull off the katana guard break skill?
what do the various debuffs do? Fire puts a flame dot, I think earth lets you do increased damage, I have no clue on the others.
>>335823542
Koei Tecmo so it's possible.
>>335820218
>tfw you learned how use Ki Burst effectively
>tfw you learned how to stance dance
>tfw Demo is almost easy at this point
I want more.
I need more.
>>335823660
He's a lot easier if you treat him like a monster from Monster Hunter. Wait until he tuckers himself out, attack, dodge his 4 lightning bolts and his lasers and repeat. I beat him using light armor and a low stance katana.
>>335823881
>Fire
As you said, it's a dot which can be cured by dodging/rolling.
>Earth
A dot that reduces Ki/the hyper armour Yokai/Oni have.
>Lightning
Slows enemies down (slower attacks, run speed etc.)
>Wind and Lightning
No clue
>>335820218
So is he like the Japanese Geralt or...?
>>335823240
beat him with high stance katana. no idea if it's supposed to be good against him but it's pretty much what I used for the entire second level
>>335824215
He's William.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_%28sailor%29
>>335824215
He has white hair.
As far as we know, the similarities end there.
>>335824178
>Wind and Lightning
I meant Wind and Water
when does this come out on pc?
>>335824425
We don't even now when it's coming out on console yet m8.
>>335824215
he's a descendant of Geralt
>this game was supposed to be a PS3 launch title
What in the shit was Team Ninja doing?
>>335824537Geralt can't have children you fucking PLEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBBBB
>>335823731
Sony being involved in no way makes something unlikely to be on PC.
>>335824587
fucking around until dark souls got released
Action mode or movie mode?
>>335824587
Game changed a bunch of times and they weren't satisfied with the result each time so it kept getting shelved.
Is there more than one save slot? I really want to let my friend play this, but I also don't wanna delete my save.
>>335824731
action.
>>335824148
>you learned how to stance dance
Can you give me any advice on learning this?
>>335824697
why?
>>335824765
Yeah, selecting new game creates a new save file.
Is this game the reason NG has sucked for so long?
All the good developers were on this?
So I just saw this is for ps4 is it an exclusive?
>>335824920
When they go through the process of becoming a witcher, they become sterile
I really, really don't like the Diablo aspects of this game, and the level up skill system.
It's kitchensink development
>"Hey you know, nowadays every game has leveling so we need that too. And randomized loot so we also need that... And what about base building? Even Assassins Creed has a base building minigame, so we definitely need that too!"
Why can't game designers just stick to the core theme? I wish these faggots played Ico and learned about design by subtraction.
>>335820218
poor pcfriend here
is there a let's play with decent level of play out there? preferably without commentary
>>335824991
KT will port it eventually and the port will be horrendous as is their way.
>>335825027
This game is a souls clone and you're expecting no leveling? what the fuck
>>335825027
Yeah I complained that there's way too much loot in the feedback form.
>Level up skill system.
What do you mean? The fact that you can buy new moves? Because that's great
>>335825027
The loot system makes sense.
>if you die a lot you end up killing random enemies a lot which give you better gear which keeps you from dying so much
>>335825027
Not a fan of the randomized loot either. I think it would be better off with a different equipment system altogether.
>>335820328
can you actually commit sudoku in this game? How? WHy?
>>335825027
the randomized loot is my biggest gripe. Now, the big issue I have is that it's pretty fucking random. If it were a little less so, like purples could only get lines involving stance ki/damage/guard, elemental damage, and a parry/ki/health/other stat roll, one of each. And purples should be more rare, actually one-of-a-kind, cause I have fucking 80 osafune from jo the fisherman trying to get one with low stance lines and water damage
Instead it's a fucking total mess and you can get all or none of those things, no matter the rarity. It needs to be re-tooled to be LESS random. There is skill required but the item rolls are infinitely more important than your skill.
>>335824853
Not him but something I've found useful is stuff like changing from high to low stance in the middle of a big attack animation so you can quickly dodge away afterwards. Just remember that you can change stance at any time no matter what you're doing.
>>335825628
didnt mean to reply
I'm so excited to see what high level PvP is gonna look like, I expect Vagabond tier fights.
>>335825628
You can find the Harakiri sword in the first level in the cave past the Ninja Oni. Not sure what the point of it is honestly.
>>335825781
maybe to act like the darksign in ds1?
>>335825757
The fact that you can see the opponent's stamina and what stance they're in should make things interesting.
>>335825781
What sword is it? I know I picked that up but I
can't find it.
They need to tone down the gear degradation.
I was having to use glue every other attempt on the boat boss.
>YOU DEFEATED!
fuck Nue
HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU REPAIR
>>335825556
This game just needs to copy souls more and use its system for the weapons/the loot in general
>>335826017
clay for gear and sharp stone for weapons.
they drop from enemies
>>335825910
It's a key item, which you kill yourself with.
>>335825628
you pick up the harikiri sword near the end of the first mission, and can use it as the darksign from dark souls.
>>335825996
I had to summon for that fight and I feel like a fucking scrub. Fuck his one shotting lightning attacks.
Best weapon/stance for blocking and poking the boat demon?
>>335826172
It's a much better system than what the game has currently.
Is there quide for the kodama locations? I only need 6 more.
>>335826318
sword mid, when you ki break, switch to low and RAPE HIM.
bonus points for a fire sword. He's weak to fire. Fire shuriken work too.
>>335825990
>have grorious 1000 fold uchigatana
>30% durability left after killing boss
>>335822358
Use mid stance bait is front attack and walk behind him hit him twice then double dodge away. For second phase dodge his melee attack and if it's on the ground attack him. Also if he runs out of ki every hit will stagger him so spam square until you run out of ki
>>335826331
Nah
>>335826286
took me 20-30 tries until i got a decent katana.
the fight is really tedious with a shitty weap so no wonder you summoned
>>335825856
You're probably right, since you lose all Amarita when you do it. I never used the Darksign though because I'm not a fucking bitch.
>>335826286
I went beat the demo without summoning, what does it do? Does it summon an AI, or a real human bean? How do I get summoned?
The randomized loot is great, makes having to go through the same enemies not so bad, I got a katana that does fire damage which can potentially light people on fire.
I'm always getting new goodies to toy with, even if they are mostly the same, some of them have those little differences like said katana that gets me excited.
It makes the durability less of a problem and you always got gear to change things up.
As long as it isn't always just random loot and zero unique loot placed well within the levels then it's fine.
>>335826732
yes
I think the fast weapon degradation is to counteract the fact that you get a shit ton of loot. The design currently seems to be saving glue and whetstones for your best equipment while constantly rotating out worse equipment for better. You use the worse equipment for trash mobs and your better equipment for boss fights and challenging sections.
>>335826808
Summons a human, you get summoned by selecting matchmaking on a level from the mission select screen.
>>335826872
This. I love the Diablo system but durability is too low.
>>335826808
You go to the shrine and offer ochako and basically wait for a bean. As for getting summoned I think you go to the level select thing and select a level and press square.
How the hell do you beat the big samurai youkai? He doesn't seem to stagger when I try to combo and then he kicks my shit in with his combos.
>>335825781
You become a white wizard if you use it while falling off the bridge.
instant level 100
This game is actually pretty fun, my only suggestion for the final product is that they make leveling up your chosen spirit fun by giving you special items that are unique to each spirit that you can unlock when they level up
>>335824215
Geralt have a katana in the live action tv show
>>335827219
He doesnt stagger because he has his black stamina bar. To stagger shit in this game you have to remove that first. It applies to onis and bosses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPunE4UzNqA
>>335826872
It's bad. it would be decent if the weapons weren't all identical though.
>>335826805
i dont see how using the darksign is being a bitch
i use it when i got no bones and dont feel like backtracking before i have warp
>>335825781
You get back to the Shrine, but lose your Amrita.
>>335827179
I'm finding durability fine at the moment, so many weapons and repair items out the ass.
I'm pretty sure the point is to switch things up a lot, rather than like in Souls where you cling to certain equipment for a long time.
>>335827443
There's plenty of shortcuts in pretty much all souls games that you really shouldn't be burning through bones unless you absolutely have to.
>>335825996
>>335826775
>>335826286
You just got to learn to hit him in the head. Bait his lightning mouth beam, while he's doing that go to his left side of his head. Hit him twice and he'll start to stagger. Then wail on him til your Ki's nearly empty (use the last of it to dodge back, as him getting his lightning back is an attack). You can also use your living weapon for massive damage, as he only recovers if you let him/run out of Ki.
I'm this anon >>335822193 and I had to end up beating him with a broken sword.
>>335827371
>if the weapons weren't all identical though.
What do you mean? There are different looking axes, swords and spears and each one has randomized stats not making them identical.
>>335828134
They all have the same moveset.
>>335828283
Oh that. Yeah its true. I am hoping there are unique weapons in the final game with unique stances.
>>335820218
>white guy in a samurai game
CULTURE APPROPRIATION!
RACISM!
>>335828283
Of course they do. You have an entire skill tree for weapon types. Having a complete skill tree for every single weapon is overkill.
>>335828517
Did you know the original samurais were black?
>>335824308
>He has white hair.
He doesn't even have white, it's bright blond. Look at OP.
Even back when the game was first announced he was blond.
>>335828283
The moveset for the different weapons are quite in depth to be fair. Combine that with the use of the Ki Pulse system and you can pull off some crazy things since it essentially functions as a combo canceler. But I do hope there will be more unique weapons.
>>335828582
I'm not asking for a complete moveset change for every weapon. Having weapons with unique movesets would be really good though. I hope there's at least more than 4 weapon types in the final game
>>335828283
That's not really true, unless you mean the individual weapons themselves and not Katana,Spear,Axe.
>That feeling when you get better and clear level 1 without dying
That bow man.
>see Nioh thread
>enter it
>let people know that the game still refuses to believe I'm connected to PSN
>and will not let me play
>and that my summons in dark souls and everything else I'm playing is still working flawlessly
>until the shill fucking posting these threads sees this post
>and takes this message back to good yellow masters
>IT IS FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE
>TO HAVE ALWAYS ONLINE GAMEPLAY
>EVER
>>335828883
I don't think unique weapons having different moves is the right answer with how the game is set up. However unique/hidden skills (like hidden skill scrolls) for more moves would be nice.
>>335829176
>that face
>just journalism my shit up
>>335829176
>Erik Kain
this guy still exists?
>>335829117
It's a demo. It's always online because they'll take it down on the 5th of May.
>>335829176
Probably everyone getting their shit pushed in because they are trying to play the game exactly like a souls game and finding that's not getting them anywhere
>>335829117
>>let people know that the game still refuses to believe I'm connected to PSN
Have you tried a reinstall?
>>335829176
>Erik KainWhat happened to him?
Finally beat that fucking lightning dog
Feelsgoodman
How can I go back to the first level?
I'm actually debating taking my press pass to E3 just to play this shit. If it's there anyway.
>>335829176
>Fighting more than one of those statues at the same time
Still managed, but that was a dumb idea.
>>335829519
3 times. Same shit every time. I honestly don't know what's wrong.
>>335829445
Sure hope it works before then
>>335829543
After beating it shouldn't you now be on the level select screen?
Souls shitters will literally kill this game.
I fully expect the final game to have stamina out the ass and damage cut by like half
Fire shurikens vs fire talisman.
>>335829664
No. I just beat him.
He didn't drop the Raikiri? What the fuck? How do I get the sword?
>>335829117
Have you tried lighting incense and offering up prayers to the kami?
Pretty neat.
Is there some kind of middle-level I'm missing? I beat the first area with the guy on the boat, but when I went to the next area (some kind of garden with a pond) every enemy took a tedious amount of hits to kill.
>>335829676
this will have nothing to do with soul shitters though. it's entirely team ninja's decision, which means they'll probably fuck up somehow
>>335829875
You should be like level 25-30 before you do the second area imo.
>>335829843
You get the Raikiri as a clear reward. You'll get it when you go back to the mission select
>>335829843
It's not actually a drop you get it as a reward for beating the level, move on from the boss arena like you did after the boat Oni.
>>335829704
Having used both, I'd have to say shuriken. You can toss it out quickly, the explosion deals good damage, and the DoT lasts a good while. Fire talisman requires you to get in, and can do ludicrous damage with the right weapon/stance, but there's greater risk.Using both at once feels like cheating, good Lord.
>>335829875
you should be about level 20-25 by the time you beat boatni, and should have decent gear in the range of 180-200 attack.
>>335829843
Raikiri is a mission reward, not a Nue drop.
>>335829704
I love my Onmyo voodoo magic shit. No filthy disgusting impurity Ki and everyone will get slow before realizing that is my unsheathed katana in their asses.
>>335830054
i was level 10 with weapons in the 60-70 attack range and it didn't seem to take too long
just use the high stance
>>335830037
>>335830043
>>335830070
Oh, thank you anons. I was worried. Are there any other levels or did I just complete the whole demo? Is there anything else to do?
>>335830259
You're done.. You can do level 2 again for a spear if you want, but the Raikiri is the real prize.
>>335830259
That's pretty much it, you could try out some coop now if you want.
>>335830259
Whole demo. You could get all the Kodama, beat Nue again for the dragonfly spear but yeah that's pretty much it.
why are the boss so easy ?i had a harder time with packs of mob at the start of the game than the two bosses
>>335830259
>Is there anything else to do
I wish.
You can hone your samurai skills, following the way of the blade until the official release.
>>335830461
Because you got used to the game
>>335824721
DaS got released 5 years ago.
Not feeling the combat.
Roll is useless.
Oh well it's just an alpha, I hope they fix everything.
>>335830538
maybe ,couldnt do shit when i started it.
On another note i find that equipement being randomly generated and having durability a bad idea for this kind of game
The lock on barely works.
>>335830659
>Roll is useless
Have you tried getting out of high stance?
>>335830659
>Roll is useless.
You're doing it wrong. Dodges don't have I-frames unless it's the Ki variant (when you have that after image trail). Learn to actually get out the way of attacks with dodges.
Who am I kidding this is just bait/shitposting
>>335830413
I missed a Kodama back on the first level. Will I lose all my equipment if I go back to the first level?
>>335830483
Release date fucking when
>>335830483
*tips katana*
>>335831042
>Will I lose all my equipment if I go back to the first level?
Nope.
I know that fire deal constant damage and lightning reduces enemy speed but what wind and earth do?
>>335830796
>On another note i find that equipment being randomly generated and having durability a bad idea for this kind of game.
Yeah same here. I hope they tone down the drops, and increase durability about 50% ~ 70%. If you haven't filled the feedback form in yet, you should mention that.
Are people only defending this game because it makes them seem hardcore or is the market for samurai games so untapped into that that audience is fawning over the game blindly?
Completed the main level and then played up to Nue, the game certainly polarizes me hard;
The gameplay "feels" addicting in a way and you have an urge to play the game the next day when you stopped yesterday- but when you're actually playing it its rarely actively that fun
The game itself is trying too hard to be punishing and le hard
The obvious comparison is Souls games, where the levels are infinitely more interesting, big, interconnected, RPG elements are stronger, items/ weapons more unique, artstyle more inspired, graphics better and so on
the difference in NiOh is that it tries to be even more of an ARPG with the A part being important-but to put it shortly it just feels like shit when fighting anything but a human enemy
Ninja Gaiden for example is constantly aggressive and hard regardless of the enemy; it still simply feels better- why? Because the "le clunky" isn't a meme
tying a shitty limiting stamina system and rolls limited to predetermined directions into what tries to be punishing, skill dependent action is absolutely retarded, and it leads to the game being completely about memorization of patterns- the definition of trial and error instead of organic challenge where you can overcome it on the first time (assuming youre superhuman) with logic
I honestly dont see why do people praise this so much here, trying to block every complaint with "le git gud"- most people who are talking about the flaws have completed the main portion of the demo, if not all of it
>>335831231
Earth seems to reduce their ki, don't know about wind.
>>335831231
Earth appears to make them brittle/less hyper armor. Water and Wind seem to be the mysteries, though I could see water affecting ki regen on humans.
>>335831305
Is this copypaste?
>>335831305
>but when you're actually playing it its rarely actively that fun
Don't know what to tell you m8, I had fun for the most part, except with the crawling zombies they're annoying fuckers.
Will this demo delete itself on the fifth? I REALLY wanna keep it.
>>335831728
It needs an online connection to play which I guess they'll cut on the 5th.
>>335831596
Feels like it.
>>335831728
Seems so.
>>335831728
demo will stay, access to the demo will be removed though. Like >>335831841 said it will just open, try to connect, probably say "can't connect", kick you to the title screen and that's it. Like the network tests for the dark souls games.
It's so great to feel like a complete newbie again
>all these ninjas and demons around
>who is this silly little fucker
>is he mocking me?
>goddamnit get over h-..
>FUCK
>>335831284
already did
>>335831596
No
>>335831631
"Fun" might have been the wrong term to use because of what a meaningless buzzword it is, but the flow of the game rarely feels like an RPG nor an action game- i found myself progressing with a crawl until I had already killed everything or died, meaning I knew the exact layout of the enemies and could atleast run or sprint without constantly jeopardizing getting gangbanged by zombies and ninja ambushes
The game has an identity crisis and the only saving grace is being hard- which necessarily isnt a good (or a bad) thing, but it cant be used as an objective PRO for the game
>>335831862
le everything with effort in it is pasta
>>335831927
Go for the eye, Boo, go for the eye!
>>335831927
i noticed that their transformation is only temporary
Did any of you do the feedback thing? What did you ask them to change or add? I told them to add a difficulty option. Easy, Normal and Hardcore like Diablo. Dark Souls made the mistake of being locked into 1 difficulty but this game can still be saved.
Also customization options. I want to change Williams hair at least.
>>335831979
Everything long and retarded just like your posts is mostly pasta.
>>335832147
How do I do the feedback thing?
>>335832147
I put that item management is a pain in the ass and that the text of the UI is sometimes hard to read because it's small or white against light background.
>>335831979
So basically you think the game needs to be more focused.
>looking at some of the bloody grave names
>REBOOT RYGAR
>warriors warriors
>>335832295
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_uk
>>335832082
Yeah I know, it's kinda stupid that you can only go for the eye in the ONE attack they do to gain increases damage, while just hitting it does regular damage (especially with the one that's patrolling and you can hit from the platform)
>>335832093
Oh? Cool, haven't noticed that. I did not ice that they have several way to transform, apparently by gaining their Ki
In the webm he attacks me and gains enough to transform, while often they will make the Youkai Realm circle and gain it that way. Pretty cool, gotta say
Anyone know how to get back to the mission select screen after starting a mission. I just finished mission 2 and wanted to coop with some people.
>>335832437
Can I customize my gravestone with messages?
>>335832497
im not sure but im pretty sure the bloody graves with red names are developer set
>>335832465
Use those branch items, you should have some by now. They say they take you back to the starting point, which is the level select.
>>335832465
You need the flower/grass item that says something like "return to the starting point without losing stuff"
Kinda confusing, but that's the thing
They already downgraded the game. Trailer had more graphics detail lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38juvaf8U0
My stats are all over the fucking place.
Post more webms
>>335832743
delete this
>>335832743
That just looks blurry, imo
Regardless, it's PS4, so that's the best we'll get. It didn't drop below 30 for me as often as other PS4 games
>>335831927
This monsters are creepy
>>335820380
I have better Wind and Water Weapons.
Raikiri looks too flashy too. I rather have that Ichimonji.
And someone tell them to include banners in the game.
How do you go back to the map screen once you enter the nue stage? I want to try out being summoned.
PC?
>>335833201
NEVER EVER
>>335833201
No, well not yet anyway.
>>335833201
rev up those petitions
>>335833201
When PC goes back to the past and prevents nude mods of DOA5
>>335832786
>tfw decided to try the Magic route
>magic items need to be in shortcuts
>also have capacity so can only have like 2 at a time
They are pretty powerful, though.
The Sloth slow is ridiculous on bosses
>>335833201
YOU PC BRAH?
>>335821882
What i like, the Mission basically tells you at the start how difficult it will be and what level you should be able to pass it at the beginning area, while you level a bit through it without grinding [except grinding for weapons, which can be fun]
First was 5
Second is 25
i love that fall damage depends on if you land on your feet or not.
now it totally makes sense to push people off ledges and jump after them.
>>335831927
>be at a distance from him
>he spots me and stares at me
>I try to shoot him in the face with an arrow
>he jumps to the side
>he's jumping from side to side, making it impossible to shoot him with an arrow
>he finally stops jumping and plays peak-a-boo with his hands
>fucking shoot him with an arrow
>he fucking dodged it again
I ran at him with and tried to kill him with my fucking sword, he kept dodging it and then he transformed and beat my ass
This fucking demo, I swear.
>>335832743
>Alpha
If they
1. Make the lock on like DaS 3 or Bloodborne
2. Slow down how quickly weapons degrade and make weapon drops a bit rarer (though less common trash to compensate)
3. Increase individual enemy difficulty while decreasing the number of "multiple enemies aggro at once" mobs
and
4. Make skills more independent of each other
Then it has a lot of potential. But currently it definitely needs more polish.
>>335833634
>4. Make skills more independent of each other
That's the only good idea in this post.
>>335833634
> while decreasing the number of "multiple enemies aggro at once" mobs
you get plenty of stones and a bow use them
>>335824587
It was also supposed to be a movie.
And a strategy game.
And a straight RPG at one point.
>>335833831
But I really shouldn't have to. I feel like I'm cheesing the game that way. Just separate the mobs up a bit so they respond once at a time or occasionally in pairs of two.
>>335833634
>3. Increase individual enemy difficulty while decreasing the number of "multiple enemies aggro at once" mobs
Have you forgotten how to pull things?
>>335833783
Are people actually under the impression that Nioh's Dark Souls 2 style lock on is better than DaS 3 or BB?
Make it so that lock on is an optional feature that actually has a big impact on movement. As is it barely exists.
>>335834019
Then learn how to fight two people at once. t's not as hard as you're making it.
>>335834019
It works the same as pulling enemies in souls games, no cheese about it.
>>335834019
I like fighting crowds
>>335834142
I'm not talking about the groups of 2, those are fine.
I'm talking about the groups of 3+.
>>335834337
So why are you running into a group when you you know, possibly, that only one style is really good for groups. Sounds like you wanna be rambo or something where you don't have to think.
Just go back after you beat Nue and have higher gear if you wanna play like that. Well that and never do the Nue level again.
>>335834337
There are no groups of three plus that can't be pulled one at a time
I will agree that it can be difficult to fight enemy groups but that is intentional. You have to be slow and methodical.
Nope, just not enjoying the combat. It feels like a mix of Dark Souls and Destiny Warriors and comes out as bad you'd expect.
>>335833634
Single enemy are already difficult enough like the ninja or the demons
Don't forget to bitch about the graphics in feedback
It's not too bad but they did downgrade the game a bit
>Attacking the shrine makes the kodama run away and turns off the shrine
>>335834643
Kek, destiny what?
>>335834854
If they're releasing in the Fall then there's no way you're getting better graffix.
I personally hope that aggroing groups of enemies will have different results depending on which enemy you aggro.
If you aggro a bunch of bandits, they'll gang up on you or if you aggro a bunch of samurai, they'll take you on one at a time etc.
That demon on the boat, how do I beat it. Ive only tried twice but it feels like Im doing something wrong after I get it to drop the balls.
How good is the stamina system in this game? My friend said its unpredictable and garbage. Also taking damage makes you lose stamina?
>>335834973
They already have better graphics ready, they probably couldn't get to run it smoothly in time for the alpha.And they will if the PS4.5 turns out to be real
>>335835264
It's quite the opposite of unpredictable.
Stamina management is like half of the git gud in this game.
If the lockon and roll are useless why did they put them in?
They should remove them and say that makes it more le hardcore.
>>335835264
You're friend is shit. You can attack constantly if you git gud. And the best is that the enemies also have their own stamina
>>335834864
They come back in a few seconds
Pls dont bully kodama
post more webms please
game's stylish af
>>335835406
They aren't.
>>335835372
Huh, my friend said there was know way of knowing how much stamina you would lose after an attack and itd be different each time.
Haven't played yet, thanks for telling me.
>>335835673
It may seem that way early and you'll be staring at the bar a lot.
Once you spend enough time with a weapon, you basically just intuitively know what's going on with your stamina bar.
A complaint I have is that the oni dont attack the humanoids, infact, they gang up on you. Hope that changes, would make for more interesting encounters and possible avoidance maneuvers.
>>335835264
If you thought stamina management in Dark Souls was hard then this will be impossible for you.
Learning the Ki (stamina) management of this is the first thing you need to learn to not get destroyed.
Blocking an attack is far better for both your health and Ki than getting it by it. The more damage the more Ki get drained
You can go out of breath (Dragon's Dogma style) and get destroyed if you don't pay attention.
The Ki Burst allows you to quickly regain stamina you spent on a combo if you press R1 after it finishes
Hitting, not hitting or hitting a blocking enemies drains different amounts of stamina
Different weapons also drain different amount (obviously)
The Youkai Realm black magic stuff will heavily reduce Ki regeneration when standing in it
Think that's about it? Anything I missed?
>>335835196
What worked for me is learning to dodge the balls and avoid his attacks
Once he starts his walk cycle to grab the balls he will completely ignore you so bait him into throwing them as far away as possible and attack him during walk cycle. Otherwise just avoid him completely and ki burst his blights
>>335835406
They aren't uselss. Rolling and dodging is fine it just doesnt have i frames. and the lock on needs some tweaks but this is an alpha so the amount of polish it has currently is appropriate.
Is there anything to do with the money?
>>335836051
give money to kodamas so they can buy more cute hats.
>>335836051
So far you can only use them to change the Kodama blessings
>>335835673
It is all based on what stance and weapon you are using. Stance is paramount to how much stamina is used. Also ki pulses and bursts are paramount to maintaining good stamina during a fight
>>335835958
Shit son, this isn't nearly as bad as I was led to believe. But I don't understand why getting hit eats at your stamina/ki. Is there no evasion?
I wouldn't worry too much about weapon durability. You could see at your home base that there were slots for more things than just the shrine, there'll probably be an item store you can buy glue and shit at.
>>335835913
This.
>Bandit runs past two ghouls
>Pay him not a single fuck
Either that means something or it needs to be addressed.
>>335836230
you're supposed to avoid getting hit
>>335836230
There is, however the stance means how easy it is to get out/dodge. Low is the best for being evasive since you not only dodge out of everything you also get ki back for dodging. Mid you can do a haste quickstep but it eats stamina. High stance is the most restrictive since you're putting everything into attack.
Don't focus on dodging unless you're in low or can pull it off in mid. Better to guard in mid or high since it's quicker and blocks 100% with superior crafted japanese steel and that mid has parries.
>>335829176
>This game is too hard!
>No it's okay guys, I play Dark Souls.
Fun fact: If other people aren't struggling with something but you are, it means you're garbage.
>>335836230
There is, it's to punish bad play and avoid just tanking damage with good armor
Evasion is key, but blocking can still be enough to save your life, however, guard is only good in the Mid stance, which also regenerates Ki while blocking (other stances do not regenerate Ki while blocking)
Oh, I guess I forgot to add, obviously different stances and light/heavy attacks also drain different amounts of stamina
>>335836230
There is but it has no i frames to exploit so you actually have to roll under or away from attacks which can be risky if timed wrong since this can turn your back on an opponent which can lead to a massive amount of damage from the enemy hitting your back
Also hitting the enemy eats their stamina too so it works both ways.
>>335836481
I find that in mid stance is better to mix evasion and block since you can still do the quickstep
>>335832453
>they give you mobile backgrounds after completing the survey
That's a nice touch.
Pointless, but nice.
>>335836398
Maybe only William can see the Oni? Or it's just an oversight.
I dont get the lock on complaints. It works fine. You just have to aim your attacks.
>>335836729
True enough, it just takes a bit to get evading down in mid.
>>335836827
Probably in oversight, the zones they leave indicate they're affecting the world. The dwellers should at least be able to fuck them up.
For the boat boss you dont have to evade his ball spin. You can just block them. Way more easy.
>>335825424
It also keeps helps make people use other weapons, even out of necessity, than the "find the drake sword and be set for half the game" and lessens the counter of "if you use the drake sword you are a scrub". It doesn't eliminate the core problem, which is finding that sweet spot of giving players effective weapons while also maintaining difficulty, but it's really the best option, which is why I disagree with people getting ornery about RNG loot.
>>335837034
Oh. I assumed that something that big couldnt actually be blocked.
>Co-oping at Nue
>fucking shit up with muh 101031203921 FOLD KATANA EPIC LEGENDARY LIGHTING
>host died.
it's always the air strike
>>335837235
If it's going for your body it most likely can. His body slam with hang time probably can't be blocked since it's above you.
>>335836856
there's nothing wrong with the lock on, people are just retarded
Have you guys tried mixing elemental attacks?
>Always have a set of Water Talismans on me
>Cyclops bogged down with water
>Hop back and threw a firebomb
>Three different status effects fucking him up
Not sure what the effects were, but it was pretty awesome to see.
Heading back into the lab to expiriment.
>>335837034
Blocking is the way to go for the most part here when it comes to avoiding damage
It takes a while to get away from the usual mentality of rolling when you get hit. In this game, putting up a block is faster than initiating a roll
>>335832743
actually thats movie mode, tho movie mode is unplayable because 30 fps
>>335837235
Same. I died for 2 hours straight before I blocked by accident and was like holy shit wait a second. Turns out you can block anything except grabs. You wont get damaged.
>>335820218
Someone shot apologize for this tripe.
>>335837373
>played movie mode and was doing pretty bad
>swapped to game mode
>suddenly everything is more responsive
I dont like playing what looks like PS2 game but it really does help, at least theres an option for it, the more console games that do this the better, performance>looks.
>Kill Onis just fine
>Kill the 2 bosses just fine
>Kill any humans just fine
>Panic around the fucking zombies with always on hype armor, grabs and poison.
>>335837034
Once you realize this you can just hug his side and continuously wail on him. Makes the fight go 100x smoother
>>335837341
cyclops are pretty easy to beat with fire talisman and katana in low stance
>>335837258
>co-oping for the past 5 hours now
>addicted
>you can actually lead a guy through the ENTIRE level
>all this exp
>all this loot
>all these slain bosses
If you get Nue out of Ki, the fucking Shark guardian just stunlocks him to death with the bar never running out.
It's hilarious.
>>335837696
Just circle strafe until they do their lunge. They'll miss and you can stab them with a critical while they're down. Rinse and repeat.
Taking on more than one? Now that's a little trickier.
>yfw you discovered you had no i-frames/hyper armour during combos/finishers
>>335837696
>did not find the Shrine before Nue fight
>did the run from the first shrine
>have to either stealth walk behind the first ghoul and always kill the one near the boss door
>get poisoned or just half the times wasting an Elixir
Agony.
>>335838086
Was real shit finding that out doing a morning moon on a zombie. Combos is expected though.
Is there no character customization?
>>335838272
Armor and weapons there's your customization.
>>335838354
So i have to play as that generic white guy?
Pass.
>>335838086
That really got me by surprise
Ninja Gaiden has i-frames on finishers and it's a huge tactic that doesn't work here
>>335838513
Okay
>>335838513
Japan did the generic silver hair dude way before The Witcher
I haven't really experimented with it since I'm mostly doing low stance, but do enemies parry/use finishers on you?
>>335823542
Maybe, but it's Koei so expect a really shitty port, probably.
>>335838272
>>335838513
There isn't as far as we know, however, the mission start screen might indicate that you might at least have a different character to select later on, or something.
Or maybe you'll just have the option to rename him, who knows
>>335838908
Forgot pic
I filled that survey in because I want this game to be great.
I don't like the the system in place for weapons and armor wearing down so fast, babysitting your gear just isn't very fun and doesn't add much to the game.
But I was thinking how seeing your sword actually break in half after blocking way too many heavy attacks would be much more interesting to see, what do you guys think?
>>335839071
I would like if they just did away with durability all together and just dropped less loot
>>335839071
I think it's pretty easy currently keep your gear from breaking. Maybe in the beginning it'd be an annoyance but they'll probably implement ways to mitigate it.
>>335834854
I gave them a "good". They were nothing special but good enough for me.
>>335839010
That definitely looks like a character select screen. Why else would they put his pic there along with his name? Is so weird.
About the durability thing I noticed there is a "familiarity" stat in each weapon right next to the durability. It has 0/9999. Maybe familiarity increases durability.
>>335839375
Press start and read what the tooltip tells you. I wouldn't put it past them to expand and give more benefits for familiarity but what we can find currently points toward it being used for disassembling.
>>335829494
>mfw I beat both levels and bosses and I've never played a souls game
The bosses do remind me of Monster Hunter though.
>>335820218
PC version when
Don't need psn+ to play online, if only the final version was like this.
>>335839220
I don't think there will be other characters, I think we'll just get the option to create our own for co-op. Kinda like how MGSV handles online.
This game reminds of NG more than Dork Souls.I was always too casual for NG.
>>335839220
>>335839792
Or possibly have "skins" for William, like dark haired, more scars, etc
>>335839617
never
ever
>>335839617
Do you really want another PC port from Koei Tecmo?
>>335831979
saus
>>335838513
>generic
>based off an actual person who was unique in appearance in that setting
retard
I hope there's slightly more weapon variety in the final game. I would've liked to have seen Sai (those forked ninja daggers) and Naginata, for instance.
How do you do the heaven flash input reliably? I almost always get a dodge
>>335837341
So it looks like enemies are easier to stun when afflicted with two status elements.
Low stance working the best to build up the gauge.
Every element does different shit so mix and matching makes for some interesting conditions.
Pretty sure this works on bosses as well.
>>335840997
Depends on the enemy but I feel that it's more successful if it's deliberate and you do it while he's going through the animations of a previous attack.
>Be me
>Play the demo
>Shit stressed the fuck out of me but cleared first mission
>Get DLC secured
>Have no motivation and no feeling to play 2nd mission
Anyone else like this?
>>335841902
>Be me
>>335841902
>Be me
Dumb anime poster.
>>335842101
>anon says that while on an anime website
>>335841902
You played to get something for free instead of enjoying a demo huh?
>>335841902
>Be me
I can't be you so no.
>>335825996
No, fuck you leather jin
>Make game loosely based on first whitu piggu samurai
>Get called racist
The age we live in.
How does it feel knowing casuals will nerf the game to shit before it releases?
>>335841902
I kept going but I'm pretty apprehensive about getting to the next boss.
It took me ~ 10 tries to kill the first guy.
My only complaint is the lack of tracking on lock on attacks, or even the option to manual aim attacks. I'm not asking William to do a sick 360 no scope because I whiffed an attack, but it's fucking preposterous that I knock an enemy down mid combo and I can't aim my spear down 5 degrees to poke the guy.
I'm not sure why, but I'm really surprised by how much I enjoyed this game. It's been a while since a game has made me want to keep playing for an extended period of time. It's too bad it's only a demo.
>>335842695
>implying they won't keep it hard so they can start their own git gud memes
>>335842908
The ronin? Just dodge while they're doing combos, they love to do full combos and waste their ki.
>>335842908
It took me a good 40.
I realised i should i only hit the boss in his second fom after his retarded dive and dodge everything else.
Barely scraped through too.
>>335842984
You can do ground finishers if you get close and press triangle.
>>335843072
No, I mean the 1st area boss.
The guy on the ship.
>>335842815
Lets hope a bit of itagakis spirit is still with team ninja
>playtesters kept saying the game was too hard, so i made it even harder to spite them
Glorious
>>335842815
>casuals are now devs
>implying ninja gaiden was nerfed because of casuals
>implying devs give the tiniest shit about your idiocy when there is multiple difficulty settings in the final game anyways
kek
>>335843159
I am aware, but when I'm using the spear and knock a dude down I would rather Will just look down slightly and finish his spear rain rather than having to stop my combo and stab a nigga.
On a slightly related note, has anyone figured out what the fucks up with Low stance spear? Every time I bother to use it the first hit of the combo knocks the enemy back far enough where the second set of hits consistently whiff.
>>335843193
Oh. God I misinterpreted that. Which stance you favoring fampai? When he does his over head two handed slam, try and dodge so that you can smack his face a few times. When you do it'll destroy his horns and his ki allowing you to stunlock him for a bit with high stance.
>TK game
LIterally am never disappointed with their games. 10/10 developer and seriously underrated.
>>335843273
They did nerf Ninja Gaiden with 3 to get more sales. The game even had auto aim.
>>335843465
>I would rather Will just look down slightly and finish his spear rain rather than having to stop my combo and stab a nigga.
Switch to high stance, pretty much every square is a vertical attack.
>what the fucks up with Low stance
Don't pursue if you aren't able to keep up. Also it might help if you treat low stance as the counter to brutes/yokai. Unless it's a dual-wielding oni.
>Another PS4 exclusive
Fuck it, I'm gonna burn my PC
I'm not going to get much into this game until I'm done with Dark Souls 3. The controls and feel of the game will throw me off.
>>335843756
>own average PC for PC exclusives and a few of the modern multiplats that it can run
>own Ps4 for everything else
Im not falling for the PC masterrace meme this gen, consoles always have better multiplats, and PCs best exclusives can run on toasters. Speaking of which
>no word on Bannerlords in months
If I wanted to focus on katanas, should I just focus on increasing heart? I did use put some points into dex and spirit just for the increased amrita guardian/caltrops and a few points into STR/Stamina just to equip the best armors I had. I feel like I'm overthinking what a build should be like.
If the game becomes more polished and the stamina is a bit more lenient I'll gladly buy the game.
Hell I'll probably buy the game anyways but I really do wish they made the game a bit less frustrating to play.
>>335844179
That's fine.
>>335843273
>Sigma 1 and 2
>end entire demo with 20 magic
Game's fun.
Hope we get more spells and such, and something to use them better and not limit yourself to a maximum of 3 spells on the Shortcuts bar
>>335844191
Are you using Ki Pulses and Bursts?
Also, remember there's a item that's recover your Ki faster.
>>335845052
There's two items actually. The spirit water and kekkai talismans.
Game is shit. Tried playing the demo and died like 10 times to the first few groups of enemies. Clunky piece of shit, somehow stamina randomly stuns you whenever it feels like and everyone just kills you in one hit. I was interested before I got to play it and now I'm happy I don't waste any money on it.
>>335844191
>>335845052
And a "spell" that recovers it faster AND removes the blight areas that slow down your Ki recovery
But yes, mastering the Ki Pulses and Bursts are key.
>>335845132
I love that the first enemy is THE casual filter
>>335845132
Maybe you're shit because even DSP managed to get past the first few enemies.
I really didn't give a shit about this game prior to the release of the demo, but now it's a day 1 buy for me. Difficulty's high but that's fine for me, i'm a masochist when it comes to entertainment.
I kinda have an issue with Action/Movie modes. They look extremally similar. Also, the framerate is all over the place, even in the '60fps' mode'
There are numerous 60fps titles on PS4, even if at expense of 900p. Battlefront looks amazing. I really hope they iron that out before release.
>>335845132
gitfamiliar with the game's mechanics.
>>335845338
That thrust game he has 2strong
>>335845132
lmao stamina stuns you if you use it and don't have enough
fucking block and dodge, dipshit
>>335845338
The first guy was easy enough. It started with the next guy and his friend with the axe.
The casuals are gonna get the difficulty nerfed, aren't they?
Jesus Christ, the game is fine as it is... I can't believe this.
>>335845132
>first enemy is the casual filter
THe "tired" thing only happens when you run out of stamina AND THEN try to keep attacking, block or dodge with no stamina. Thats a problem being made by your own stupidity not the game working against you.
>>335845442
His thrust is literally a joke though, my first time playing I literally just strafed past it without even thinking.
>>335845534
I know anon, I was playing off the other anon's comment about him being a casual filter.
>>335845464
It got easier when i found out you can use high stance to smash the guy facing away from you in 2 hits, and then deal with his friend alone
Also, going back to the shrine and leveling up when you have enough money, and donating unwanted items to the shrine for extra healing and fixing items
Anyone else having trouble loading into the boat oni area as a summon? Every time it just stays in the loading screen and ir won't load.
>>335845464
They give you a hint on what to do there, with the Lock On tutorial and the Stones.
Also messages in the Load Screens for when you die because of it telling you to not engage in a fight with multiple enemies because it's literally a retarded thing to do.
>>335845804
Didn't have that, but I think the host might have got that since I got into the fight and the boss was not doing anything while the host wasn't there so I just wailed on him
>>335845486
Nah. This is what they want, once we enforce the git gud meme all will be forgotten.
>>335845486
>team ninja
>nerfing difficulty
They aren't from. Team ninja does not pander to casuals
>>335845338
>Get hit by the first enemy
>Does literally 99% of my hp with a single swing
Learned my lesson right quick
>/v/ is literally the only website that is telling people who say is too hard (mostly Soulfags that want to feel "hardcore") to fuck off and git gudThis is why I love you guys. Even if this site is a shithole full of shitposting, you can actually call retards out on their bullshit while suggesting good strategies and being patient enough to learn the game mechanics.
Never change
>>335846010
Its happened everytime I have been summoned for that fight.
>>335846386
It's fucking amazing how learning game mechanics through play has become a trial for most people
>Holy fuck he killed me in one hit!
>Maybe i should block and then respond!
nope better just keep trying to swing at him
>>335846340
This isn't so certain these days.
>>335846386
I love you too anime poster
Any the only problem people are having is playing it like dark souls. Fuck dsp didnt even die to anyone on the beach for gods sake
>>335846386
>gamefaqs is the only website which made a complete guide on how to properly play instead of spamming memes
thank god for gamefag's autism level.
>>335846386It just gives me this tingly feeling. Even if /v/ is full of casuals, weebs, furfags, memesters and shitposters I love each and every one of you faggots
>>335846736
Gay.
>Finally shit kick Boat Oni
>Fucking struggle my way through stage 2.
>Nue
Holy shit.
Anyone know if he's weak to any elements in particular? I've tried Armorcrusher Axe Wind & Katana Water.
Neither seem to do any real damage.
This game isn't even harder than dark souls, it just requires playing differently. I wonder why the people who hate this game because of the difficulty even like dark souls
>>335825996
> eeYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*dun dun *
>>335846824
Pretty sure ele damage is dependent more on your magic stat but wind or earth. Why did you think water would be viable?
Also just get Raiken if you have ten spirit.
>>335846824
His chest seems to be the weak spot, try getting in there with Mid stance heavy attacks
As soon as he's out of Ki just rush him with your chosen Guardian
Is the demo worth the 7€ PS+ subscription?
>>335833148
>dun
>dun
>dun
>dun
>dun
>dun
>dun
>dun
*SLASH*
EEEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>dun dun
>>335846929
>>335846929
Raiken?
Also, Water being a great Insulator I figured it'd fuck his shit up.
Also
>Finally get to Nue
>Realize I'm sitting on 170k souls
>Don't actually know what I want to do with them
fuck me. It seems such a waste just to piss them away.
>>335828671
We wuz shogunz n shiet
>>335846627
I love how you faggots know everything dsp does
>>335847052
It has two levels in it and beating the first boss unlock some kind of reward for the full game.
You can freely co-op up until the 5th of May too
Personally took me about 5-7 hours or something to beat it once
>>335846860
Best thing about souls is the world, lore, and scripts. I tolerate the sometimes shit gameplay.
>>335820218
>another souls rehash
>>335847052
you don't need PS+ to get the demo
As far as I know you also don't eve need it to summon other players
>>335847149
Get your weapon stats to ten or elelven, Raiken's a guardian spirit that gives +20 lightning def if you got 10 spirit.
>>335847286
I love you.
>>335846860
Dark Souls went mainstream and attracted a lot of people who just want to play the current hip popular game. These same people dont actually play the game solo and let their co op summons do all the work for them. After they finish the game they claim they beat that super hardcore game and now they are hardcore gamers who defend the game to death.
Nioh barely has working online so they are forced to play solo and get good for real this time. Is obviously not going well.
>>335847194
>the original Afro Samurai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke
>>335847286
I honestly never watch DSP but /v/ reports literally everything he does, so I myself always know what he does
So, how do i claim the DLC? I've completed the demo but i get an error message (something about the content not being available yet) when i try to go to PSN on the title screen
>Google this
>Game released in 2004
>Steam says nothing.
What is this shit
>>335847693
Once you claim it the game offers you to go to the store and download it. That's how I got it at least
I didn't want this game to be good since it's a shameless dark souls rip-off with a weeb Geralt as a protagonist, but it is.
>>335847598
summoning was a mistake
don't worry though they'll be able to do the same thing with this game for the final version and they'll stop crying
>>335847735
>Steam
>>335847693
did you download the game from a different region?
Same thing happened to me. I just downloaded the NA version and replayed the whole thing
>>335846824
>>335846934
From my post way earlier (Holy shit it's been nearly 4 hours, the fuck am I doing with my life) >>335827934
Hit him in the head, to stagger him. It takes less hits when he's doing a lightning move, 2 for the beam. If he wiffs a dive and falls, run and hit him in the head 4 times for the stagger. Then wail on him. Repeat this a few times and you win. Other than that just got to learn his tells for his moves. The lightning attack from the sky can easily be avoided just by running and it only strikes 4 times.
>Decide to co-op with others after beating the second mission
>HOST HAS DIED
>HOST HAS DIED
>HOST HAS DIED
>HOST HAS DIED
>HOST HAS DIED
>HOST HAS DIED
>>335848015
Same.
I was ironically calling it Samurai Souls, but holy fuck, it's so much more
There is a lot similar to Souls, of course, but it actually managed to be its own game, which is great news.
the final game will never be as good as the alpha since everyone is complaining about the difficulty on the survey :::::(((((
This is too much content for a free demo 2bh. I wish tecmo could've made some money back from this, they deserve it, this game is fucking fantastic/.
>>335848250
It's Onimusha Souls.
>>335848261
Hopefully they do something cheeky and tell people to learn how to play the game instead of just mashing square.
Once you start utilizing ki pulse you're almost never running out of stamina.
>>335848261
If itagaki was still here there would be no problem but I'm kinda worried
>>335848141
I think that's it, I downloaded it from my bong account since it took forever for PSN to update in the US, but played the demo on my main account. Well, off to playing the first area again, thanks for the tip anon.
>>335848371
SHOO SHOO
NUE NUEI fucking love the fact that his eye wobble during battle, gives that silly vibe to a giant lightning lion monster that's two-shotting me with orbital strikes
Holy fuck this game is awful. The AI is just..Wow.
i wanna say a few things about what i've noticed are the most common complaints, those that i remember anyways and hopefully get some discussion going around it rather than "it's shit".
>Durability
Personally i feel that this is a good thing to have, and while the rate of deterioration can be adjusted, i see no use in upping that 50+%. The reason being that you gather money , and it stands to reason that you can buy all the whetstones you want. Also, you'd want to eliminate the "drake sword" issue. More on that below
>Loot
The loot system needs tweaking obviously, as some other anon said it's ridicilous how a one of a kind weapon that's lvl 20 can be objectively worse than a lvl 18 normal weapon, simply because the stats don't make sense aside from a small damage upgrade. The loot works well imo since it's obviously also used to offer alot of things to the shrine for exp and extra items, with the ability to "lock" your favourite weapons so you don't accidentally sell them.
(cont...)
>>335848593
Wooooooooooooow
>>335826286
his lightning damage gets cut in half if you wear 2 pieces with +5~ lightning defense on them
>>335848371
I activate shark of infinite bites.
How good is this game? Thinking about trying out the demo.
>>335848648
>loot cont
What we also need to take into consideration is that the game seems to favor weapon TYPE over spesific weapon. That being said, there is a thing that shows up on the game that noone can do anything with yet, which is familiarity. You might have noticed on the weapon select screen that there's a separate stat for that, which can either mean you use a weapon TYPE to get access to higher leveled skills, or it's designed for a particular weapon (which i don't personally believe is the case) in order to strenghten your own weapon, the logic being familiarity with a weapon would mean you use it better, making the durability better and giving you extra strenght.
>Difficulty
The difficulty seems to stem from people playing it as something they shouldn't, namely a souls game. From what i understand this game relies on stamina much heavier than souls ever did, even going as far as to punish you severely for mismanaging it.
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>>335848698
YOOOOOOOO
>>335839701
Technically it is up to the publisher/developer to make PS+ a requirement to play the game online
Maybe you could petition to have the game not require PS+
>>335845338
>50 corpses around him
>expect to get my shit rocked
>slowly approach with guard up
>he runs at me
>here it comes
>he swings in a drunken stumble for a quarter of his stamina
>just stares at me
>combo him once, back up and guard
>he comes at me again
>same clumsy swing
>half a combo, dead
How the FUCK did anyone die to that?
>>335848820
Anon just try the demo, that's why it's there. So you can find out.
>>335848820
it's only 3gb so go ahead
WHY THE FUCK DOES THIS GAME LOAD LIKE ONCE EVERY 10 TIMES I TRY TO PLAY
AM I THE ONLY ONE HAVING THIS PROBLEM
>>335848820
Just try it, mane. It's free.Just like you'll be.
This game is amazing just give me the full release. Also add claws.
>>335848887
They thought they were playing souls. I co-oped with a guy that kept circling enemies looking like he was trying to back stab.
>>335848862
>Difficulty Cont
There are also several tools avaliable for you to lighten the load so to speak. RPG's have the somewhat unique nature of built in "handicaps" which would be leveling and even summoning other players for help. This way you can make the game vastly easier by grinding until you feel it's manageable. You can also obviously challenge yourself more by not leveling up at all. If not that, you have several weapons that are easily usable to handle crowds (spears) as well as specialized equipment to pick someone off (bow, throwables).
What i will say though is that some equipment is damn near useless imo, like the medusa powder since it won't work unless you literally trap someone in a corner with it so it triggers. It makes me think it' suspposed to be used with a paralyse weapon, but it's still too iffy since it gives maybe one or two ticks before the enemy is pushed out of the cloud.
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>>335848189
Same. As long as I get them to a new shrine I count it as a win
>>335849076
I love how people are saying it looks generic compared to Souls games even though the only other game going this heavy into Japanese mythology/history is Toukiden, which is also Team Ninja.
>>335849076
>that webm
holy fuck thats hilarious. Onis in this game are so well designed.
>>335829117
The demo is probably gathering gameplay stats.
>>335848189
It honestly makes me wish there was a way to revive co-op players, which I know some people would throw a shitfit about making the game too easy but I am fucking tired of being kicked to the menu
>>335848648
How do you buy whetstones in this demo? I only get them as offering rewards.
>>335849126
>Lock on
finally the lock on system. What i appreciate is the fact that you aren't actually completely locked on, meaning y ou can still focus on a particular enemy against a group, and still be able to handle the "lesser" enemies. You can choose wethe rto run freely and reposition, or you can nudge the stick instead to focus completely on the enemy in front of you, though i will add that we could use some kind of interaction to "lock" your character to the walking if you'd so like to.
For the record, i had no hype on this game before the demo, but i instantly fell in love with it, so any counterarguments are welcome as i'd have no problem discussing at depth
>>335849330
You find them or get them through offerings. There's speculation that you'd be able to buy them from a blacksmith or the like in game when it's released.
>>335849330
you can't in the demo, but my point was that since you gather money, there has to be a shop in the full game.. so far what you can do is offer your lesser gear to get some, or pick them up in the field. the kodama blessing can also increase your chances.
>>335830659
Roll in this game is more like monster hunter than dark souls, you dont have many iframes.
You need to use roll for positioning.
>>335849076
>Activate special snowflakeness
>Onigga isn't having none of that shit
Glorious.
>>335849076
Grab attacks in action games always feel so out of placefuck those ghouls and their poison breath
>Beat the first stage
>Replay the stage again
>didn't die at all on my way to boss
>barely use elixir at all
>occasionally forgot to ki burst after attack
Looks like I got abit gud. Will attempt 2nd demo stage soon
>>335831631
I found out you can press triangle on crawlng zombies and stab them.
>>335849338
They should add a "soft lockon" and a "hard lockon" option. So that players like you who like the way it currently is can use the soft variant and players who are looking for a more Z-targetting system an use the hard variant.
So what issues do you have with the demo?
>Gold is worthless
>Zombie grab fucking cancels every single attack
>Instead of having a nice barrier to boss rooms like DS/BB, second mission has a fucking door enemies can follow you into
>Have to grind for not shit gear before the mission starts feeling balanced
There are way too many things to choose from when leveling up. I really don't know what to do. Using Souls logic isn't helping, either.
>>335849527
I still died replaying the first stage because I literally don't know how to deal with the gank squad right before the first boss. Also died once on the level 5 npc summon right after the first enemies
>>335846736
y-you too
>>335849695
We should have a QTE to prevent zombie grapple
>>335849695
I think if weapons dropped youd have the whole problem of "get X weapon in X location ASAP and the game is piss easy" ala Drake Sword in DaS, it changes the way the game works entirely and makes alot of it trivial. once I got that one sword in the demo I was killing enemies in one hit, this was nowhere near as fun as actually having to fight them as I was earlier in the demo.
Also as a problem, the Oni dont attack the other humanoid enemies, they all gang up on you. They should fight and damage eachother.
>>335849957
>>335846736
>>335846386
Can I join you guys?
>>335849931
Check the scalings on whatever weapon type you use the most, that should give you some idea of what to work on.
Calling it now
Demon's Souls> Bloodborne=Nioh>>> Dark souls 1=3> Darks souls 2
>>335849976
no please
those fucking ninjas man
>>335837696
I do low stance katana against the zombies.
Swing a few times then dodge, you need to play around the grab since its what they do the most.
Also you can triangle near the crawling ones to stab them.
>>335848371
SHOO SHOO NUE NUE
>>335850126
your ranking is all fucked up and makes no sense
>>335850126
top 3 are Sony exclusives. Coincidence? I think not
>>335850192
>that part with the key where two of them drop down
>>335838513
Silver hair trait on visual art in Japan is older than vidya itself
>>335850192
>ninjas
Pull back and bait them into a high stance combo. It gets tougher with two at once.
>>335850264
What don't you get you fuck nugget?
Can you parry bosses with the katana skills? I've only played axe and dabbled in spears.
>>335850064
Yes silly frog
>>335820218
Still not Onimusha but i guess i'll take what i get.
It probably deafaults to Nobunaga being the final boss anyways jajaja.
>>335850462
Maybe humanoid bosses. Nue kind probably slaps your face should you try tat.
>>335849938
Did you unlock the shortcut?
I usually use arrow on enemy that goes on patrol walks. Then at the piers there's an archer and an axeman sitting closely I arrow the archer to the head which aggro the axeman to come to me
>>335850462
Tried and couldn't, might have had my timing off
I also couldn't parries Onis, even the faster/smaller ones. I might just suck at it, though.
Anyone managed to pull it off?
>>335850347
i miss those comics before they turned 100% dank meme reddit+9gag fusion tier.
Though i realise it was all memes before as well, it just wasn't...shoved in your face or whatever
>>335850159
so unblockable zombie grab is okay?
its like you WANT the game to remain broke
I have to give credit to the people at Team Ninja for nailing one of the aspects of what they like to call a "dying game", the load times after death are really short, so I don't feel that disconnected from the action after a dying, playing pre-patch Bloodborne was harsh.
>>335850192
>>335850370
>these niggas having trouble with ninjas
get off my site you casuals, I've never died to ninjas, EVER
>>335850646
>Blocking a grab
You dodge it m8
>>335850617
Back when it was only us creating and sharing them among ourselves.
/v/ turned to shit sometime between katuwa shoujo and reddit I miss the old days.
>>335850538
No I mean the group of faggots that are sitting right in front of the gate that leads to the pier
Usually I try to pull one or two with arrows but it doesn't work for the whole group and I end up having to fight three enemies at once including the big guy with the spear
>>335850785
But senpai, there's one behind you right now
>>335850646
You could've simply dodge their grabs. The move has obvious as fuck telegraphed start up before the grab.
>>335850446
I get that you love dicks
>>335850586
either the timing is .3 frames or it's impossible. i tried for a while with a dweller on the first level, and nothing worked.
Even if it was it still wouldn't be recommended because you can't do shit about the fucking grab
>>335850828
Don't remember when i showed up. i just know i lurked for atleast 3-4 years before i even tried making a post. always loved the comics though.
>>335850851
its unforeseeable tbqh senpai, I made sure to request them to remove zombie grabs altogether cause its entirely unfair.
So is this like an Onimusha/Bloodborne hybrid? Waiting for the demo to download.
>>335850913
Futa is love futa is life
>>335850785
One ninja is fine. two at once is a gamble
>>335850848
what? but ho-
>>335851024
Yes.
>>335848189
>HOST HAS DIED
Every time. Though I almost can't blame them. I died a lot too my first playthrough.
>>335850965
More like you're too stupid to see the move coming.
>>335851051...ppsshhh...
>>335849695
Zombie grab. Ground stabs are clunky and sometimes don't work.
>>335850965
It's very predictable, you just fight them differently to the regular humanoid enemies which you can actually stun
Hits them once-twice and get back, watch for the grab, the stumble, you stab the with Triangle, repeat
>>335850832
Spear mid stance is your friend then. I'd also run the fuck away and find a ladder to climb and fight them on rooftops
>>335850965
I hope they will add MORE grabs and give them to ninjas in addition to giving ninjas hyper armor
Any comparison videos? Would like to see how the game looks in both modes but no ps4
>>335851371
No anon, if you wanna induce rage. Give that stuff to the dual wielding Oni that are totally not ninja.
>>335851371
>ninjas
>hyper armor
>grab
blease no!
>>335851357
Yeah I tried the spear but I guess I'm just not used to it yet. hopefully I'll stop sucking at this game at some point
>>335848189
>>335849186
>>335849328
>>335851093
>join a guy's game
>go through the ENTIRE first level with him
>has decent armour/weapons so probably went through here already
>knows his way around
>killing everything fine
>clear everything
>get to boat
>boss time
>guy gets combo'd within the first 5 seconds of the fight
It was a good run, axe-bro
Is there a tanuki in this game? My wife is looking to play this game with her guy friend when I'm at work.
>>335851441
>>335851502
Nah man, we should give enemies the abilty to parry attacks including them onis and zombies
>>335846340
>Implying
Ninja Gaiden 3 is the definition of simplifying the game for casuals
>>335845486
>Nioh and its sequels will be the next game journos latch onto for their "bawww gimme easy mode" clickbait articles
>>335851780
Hopefully
Not in the demo, though
anyway to make talismans last longer?
its super good against practically every enemy
Dowloading the Demo, Does armor affects the quick step animation? is the quickstep omni- directional? why do I keep reading Shark is best?
>>335851780
>anon's wife and her guy friend
>meanwhile anon is at work
Gee, I wonder what else they will be doing other than playing video games while you are away for work
>>335852118
>Does armor affects the quick step animation?
equip load, like souls
>is the quickstep omni- directional?
Four directions
>why do I keep reading Shark is best?
it lasts longest
>>335852118
Weight limit over 70+% is fat roll
>>335852118
Yes. Over 70% is "fatstep", super short and pretty useless
Four directions, but you have a kind of double-roll, one quicksteps the other rolls, for extra distance
Shark lasts a long time and has HP regain after 12 Spirit, though you don't get as much extra damage as with other guardians
I love the little twirl attack high stance spear does during ki burst. The stagger while recovering ki is so good for normal enemies.
>>335839010
most likely you switch characters and they have their own missions since the description just has william in the paragraph.
probably going to add a ninja bitch who uses dual wielding weapons
what is shark
I beat Nue and I have no idea
>>335852554
Ive beat Nue and havent used the spirit thing once, I kept thinking that "Im going to need it later" and ended up never using it. What do the different spirits do?
