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Is building a PC really worth it?
At the moment I use an Xbone
I have about £3000 / $6000
Is this enough to build a good PC?
>>335813836
no you need at least 1 billion dollars.
That's easily 8-9 times over the budget to build a mid-high rig. Depending on your current setup you can reuse some of the parts you already have or sell others to get new components.
>>335813836
Honestly, no building a PC is not worth it
You would just end up playing counter strike or minecraft
>>335813836
Dumb britcuck.
Sorry, pal, you need at least a 7000$ rig to run Undertale
>>335813836
They don't sell poptarts in the UK do they? Imperial scum.
>>335814128
I'm Irish
>>335813989
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is not the 1960's
you need at least at least
100
BILLION
Dollars
>>335813836
A 5$ pc will run more games than an xbone
>>335813836
If you like the pic related games. Yes, it is.
>>335813836
it's enough to build 6
>>335813836
1k is enough to build a PC that is top-of-the-line for today's games. If you dropped 2k it might last a little longer before obsolescence but you can always upgrade individual components
>>335814238
Dumb britcuck.
wait & see if Denuvo gets cracked. all current Denuvo v3 games are uncracked
I honestly don't understand how people can stand gaming on consoles. Not even trolling, its fucking hell.
>>335813836
No you need at least twice that much
do you want a huge game library with cheaper games, better graphics, better controls and mods?
-OR-
do you want a tiny library with online fees overpriced games, and worse graphics, worse controls?
honestly, you dont even deserve to game on PC if you are dumb enough to ask this
>>335814524
Yeah but you can buy a console a couple hundred, you need to spend thousands for a PC
Plus PC is 90% hackers and cheaters
>>335814058
Or, like I started with; modded Skyrim. Updated to a better graphics card? Heavily Modded Skyrim! 980ti? 1440p Skyrim!
>>335814601
no no, pretty sure it's millions needed and every pc gamer is a hacker
>>335814524
>worse controls
lel
Not falling for this b8, m8
>>335814618
>skyrim
cut your wrists with mehrunes razor
If this post is serious then yeah imo it is worth it
also don't spend more than 800 or so pounds on the pc itself
and that's already in case you want to go rather big
>pass the hammer bro, I'll have this pc built in no time
Wait until Pascal comes out
>>335814759
Im guessing you never actually played a FPS with a KB/M
>>335814921
Just about to post that. It's going to be a huge leap from what I've seen
>>335813836
£3000/ $6000
>6000
oh i'm laffin, try less than 4.5
>>335813836
With 600 you can build a decent PC if you know where to look for parts. Hell, even less sometimes. 1k is overkill, let alone 6000 burger dollars
>>335813836
buy a pinball machine or two instead you'l have a very good game and it will make you look rich, and be a nice decoration, and if you have friends or co workers they'l be impressed and want to hang out with you more often
>>335813836
>Is building a PC really worth it?
Yes, if you enjoy using a computer for more than just gaming, it's nice to have a fast PC with knowing that you built yourself and can upgrade it as you please.
At the moment I use an Xbone
I have about £3000 / $6000
That's way more. I built my PC for 1,200 bucks and spent about $600 upgrading it last couple of months to have some higher-end specs. You can build a really good PC with $2,000. Just don't fall for memes and do your research onw hat parts are compatible with your computer. And make sure you read the names of products carefully and the company creators. You don't want to be like me and buy a shitty power supply unit from a shitty company that overheats in an hour of usage. And you don't want to buy a graphics card from some manufacturers even if they sell the same exact card model because they're set up differently. MSI is a pretty reliable GPU manufacturer. And make sure you don't accidentally order any mobile or laptop parts because it kills your hype for receiving the parts and getting your PC built when you have to wait a week to return and re-order your product.
I think one of the biggest factors you need to consider beforehand is if you have time to play. If you're a normie like me who's got a pretty tiring job, a girlfriend, and other media you like to consume like TV, movies, etc., then you might want to reconsider. If you're confident you won't be browsing /v/ and watching Let's Plays or some shit, then go for it, OP.
>>335814978
I hate pressing WASD to move my character around. It's so awkward. And they're slightly off-center, so it's even more awkward. It's playing games with something that was designed for typing, not gaming.
how much will building a solid pc right now cost? one that can run new games pretty smoothly. any one have a guide with specific parts that go well together? I am not looking for top of the line but like one small step below?
>>335814435
Good thing no Denuvo v3 games are worth playing.
>>335815545
WASD is just like a d-pad. You just have to get used to it. Once you get used to mouse and kb, you start to hate using a controller for most games because it's more awkward. Only thing you'll really miss controllers for are fighting games, some platformers, and maybe a few third person games/rpgs.
>>335815907
like 600 or 700 for the pc
www.logicalincrements.com
knock yourself out
>>335813836
Holy shit OP. Even premades are cheaper than that.
>>335813836
You can use 1/6 of it to have a descent onr
>>335815907
pc part picker
>>335814448
Kill yourself nerd
Don't bother. I dropped $4,500 on mine.
Have 2 Titan X's because there's no point in gaming on pc if you're not going absolute max for the graphics, and let me tell you, SLI is fucked on all modern releases. I can only manage at most 45 fps at max 4k with Just Cause 3. And there are less and less graphically demanding multiplats coming out that I care about, so I essentially waisted my money. All the good indie games are on ps4, and all the best games this gen are on ps4.
I mean it's nice to play Witcher 3 4k 60fps, but regardless, ports have to maintain parity with consoles, so the Division still looks like shit on pc, but just marginally better than consoles. You're not instantly getting E3 graphics.
All I've been playing lately is Ridge Racer and Air Combat on my ps1 hooked up to my framemeister and Alienation, Klaus, Nioh, Guilty Gear Xrd, and Ratchet and Clank on ps4.
>>335816410
thanks anon, I will be using this site, and I have you and only you to thank
>>335815907
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/gPrBf7
>>335816801
>I dropped 4,500 on mine
>>335814031
I'd use that extra cash to get some nice monitors as well.
I sold my PS3 to help fund my PC
Never looked back
I love you all, so here you go:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
>>335816230
>WASD is just like a dpad
No it isnt.
>just get used to it
You could say the same thing about aiming with a thumbstick.
>>335816801
>I dropped $4,500 on mine.
>>335817209
Titan X's cost $1000 each.
plus add i7 6700k, 1200 watt psu, motherboard, ddr4 ram, tax, etc.
It's around $4500, and The Division still doesn't look like E3 graphics. I waisted my fucking money. Don't go pc. I repeat, do NOT go pc. It's all bullshit and lies.
>>335816801
Same here, but I dropped $3,800 on mine with AMD similars. Crossfire is just as fucked as SLI is.
And yeah technically they run at 4k 60ps, but holy shit the graphics are still ugly as fuck. Not only because of consoles either, but because of the huge group of people who only on midrange hardware and expect to run E3-like graphics. Fucking retards holding us all back.
>>335817471
>>335817454
you both are actual factual retards who's word holds no weight
you are WAISTING your time
>>335817454
>Builds retardedly priced PC
>Plays shit like the Division from a company that hasn't made a good game in years
>Gets mad
You're pretty retarded aren't' you?
>>335817454
>i7 6700k, 1200 watt psu
with that much money you should have gone with a haswell-e six core
should have done your research and not bought nvidia gimped shit like titans
>>335817612
Fucking idiot
if there are no good graphically demanding multiplats out, what do pcfats even fucking play?
There aren't even any decent exclusives on pc.
>>335817628
>Builds retardedly midrange PC
>Spend most of your time shitposting about consoles being shit
You're the only one to blame in this situation. There is no game out there that justifies actually spending money on PC due to the sheer number of midrange poorfags who expect huge steam sales and bloomed the fuck out graphics.
>>335817454
How the fuck did you spend $4500 on all that shit?
>>335817628
Then what am I supposed to play?
I'm getting bored of Witcher 3, and my pc has essentially become a Witcher machine.
There are no other good graphically demanding games on pc.
>>335817895
Games? I'm not sure what you're tying to even say.
>>335817376
>No it isnt.
It is. WASD is literally up left down and right and you push them down like you would a pad or arcade buttons.
>You could say the same thing about aiming with a thumbstick.
Except for whole shit accuracy part.
>>335813836
>£3000 = $6000
Not for almost a decade.
>>335813836
just buy a steam machine or a gaming laptop, you are not able to maintain a pc.
>>335818063
>Hyper 212 evo
my shit is overclocked.
also
>cheap-o ugly ass case
>>335818090
GTA V
Crysis series
Middle Earth
BF4
Game mods
>>335814058
console isn't worth it either
you would just end up playing call of duty or minecraft
>>335817454
This is a ruse isn't it? Surely no one actually thinks he needs all that stuff. Or someone who actually thinks better graphic cards will improve a game's quality above its limits.
>>335814435
Only shit games are by denuvo protected (even mp only game battlefront)
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Rate my build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zhfgdC
>>335817454
You just went in for total overkill, and were shocked that nothing is being made for a system like that.
You could have made a pc at half that price easy and have been future proof for at least a decade. .
>>335813836
If you have to ask its not for you. You have to want it to be a PC gamer. You have to burn for it, you have to hate consoles and desire more control of your games- whatever the things you want are.
If you are happy with a console and just want to build a PC so that you have "all the consoles" then prepare to have your butt devestated by one problem or another.
For me, I was sick of pop-in and games running on medium with no way to fix it. Rather than design games for the console, DEVs were pushing consoles harder than they could go. Blurry shadows, not enough AA, terrible frame rates etc.
>>335817895
I don't know about others but I don't play modern day AAA games. I've never played any Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, CoD, Gears of War, Halo, or Battlefield.
Never played The Witcher games or Elder Scrolls games, never played Fallout series either.
Gave up on Final Fantasy after 13, gave up on Star Ocean after 3, gave up on Tales of after Abyss.
All I do now is look for old games like treasure of the rudras.
>>335818236
Still doesn't answer the question
Also
>Fractal S
>Cheap and ugly
lel
Cheapest case, keybaord and mouse you can
Name brand green ram
Best Mobo you can buy
A compatible processor
Graphics card
Modular PSU
>>335817454
You could've donated that money to charity instead of spending it all on yourself.
I honestly think people who haven't built a PC shouldn't be allowed on /v/.
They're either underage or retarded.
>>335818093
what games?
I can get all the good indie games on xbone, ps4, and wii u.
>7th gen games
I already played all the ones I wanted to pay and still have my 7th gen consoles
>emulation
I still have all my old consoles from Colecovision and up plugged into my framemeister.
>>335818410
get a modular psu, you'll thank me later
>>335818524
>give your money to niggers
Yeah nah the government does enough of that for me.
>>335818593
Why don't you look up some lists? Surely if you are interested in the platform you can do your own research.
>>335814601
$650 can get you a pretty good rig.
>>335818410
Don't need the cooler.
PSU is overkill.
Wait for Polaris.
At that price range, get a small SSD.
>>335814435
>all current Denuvo v3 games are uncracked
so what denuvo games can I now play?
>>335818236
>Define S
>Ugly
Kys senpai
>>335814921
What's Pascal?
>>335814448
Yeah playing zelda, bayonetta, bloodborne and ratchet & clank really is the fucking worst :^)
faggot
Buy this if you don't want to waste your money, problem solved :^)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9MYcQ7
>>335818791
pretty much everything that came out before last november. so Mad max, MGSV, Lords of the Fallen, Shitquisition, etc.
>>335818891
>G3258 and 750ti meme
That's a nice internet machine right there
>>335813836
>$6000
top of the line desktop right now is about $2500
that's WAY more than enough
meaning i7-6700k, 980ti, 32gb of XMP compatible DDR4, 500gb SSD, 3tb HDD, some decent motherboard with features you want, and even a blu ray drive
>>335818846
/g/ meme
>>335818791
mgs 5
lords of the fallen maybe these
or maybe shadow of moarder it looks amazing but cant say its denuvo
>>335818880
>zelda
>>335818846
French Mathematician, some of his lost design documents were found and new computer processors utilizing his schematics are coming out with massive gains in performance.
>>335819063
it's not top of the line without $3500 worth of pop tarts and pop tart accessories
>>335816801
>2 titan x's
well that's 4-way SLI technically due to it being a dual-gpu single card
of course you got shit framerates you tool
Does anyone realize that people don't game on pc because they don't want to navigate their os with a fucking keyboard, or that they don't to have to deal with replacing/sending back parts when they fucking break in the mail, or troubleshoot bullshit, deal with blue screens, figure out why the damn thing won't turn on after you connected everything?
Like seriously, pc is too much headache for regular fucking people.
>>335819094
shadow of morder never used denvuo
>>335818891
Dual cores cant even run some current gen games.
>>335817895
>MMOs
>MOBAs
>F2P sims (airplane and tank)
>>335816801
>>335817454
>>335817471
>>335819218
Then how am I supposed to game @4k max 60fps on all the latest graphically demanding games?
If I'm not buying a pc to have the best graphics, then what am I buying it for? indie games?
>>335819251
shadow of mordor is a painfully mediocre game and doesn't even ship with the ultra textures
>>335819375
>
>My source
>>335819386
You realize console graphics aren't anywhere near 4k 60fps right?
>>335819380
you really think I'm fucking lying? I waisted my money. I can't get 4k max 60fps on the latest games even though pc fats told me I could and that they all are gaming at 4k.
>>335819386
it's your fault for not doing your research and instantly assuming more=better
>>335813836
pc is super worth it bro
i have a core 2 duo amd radeon 5450 2 gb ram and i cant even think of running out of games
you can emulate every console up to wii and shit load of abandonware
but you are a pc for more than 1k Burger rupees u will never have to care about running out of games and there are alot of hidden fan made amazing gamea like PuyoVS
Its kind of expensive to get a decent card (by that I mean 970 or whatever the AMD equivalent is or better) but its worth it.
>>335819546
>you really think I'm fucking lying?
>pc fats told me I could get 4k max 60fps on the latest games and that they all are gaming at 4k.
>waisted
This whole thread is full of retards and/or kids.
>900$ PC
>Witcher 3 Ultra 60+fps
Cling to your shitboxes that ruin the vidya since 06 kids, no one cares anymore. We just stand on the sidelines and watch everything burn.
>>335816801
>4k launches before graphics cards are prepared
>what is research
>>335819534
>You realize console graphics aren't anywhere near 4k 60fps right?
what does that even fucking mean?
Just Cause 3 is the most demanding game on pc and I can't get 4k 60fps like pcfats told me they were able to with all games.
>>335818410
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zhfgdC
Terrible case to work in. Why make more work for yourself when easy installation is worth the price?
You're skimping on the power supply, don't do that. It's the component that supplies and regulates power to your computer, don't mess with electricity.
You don't need a custom cooler since you're not overclocking. The Hyper 212s are also a bitch to install the first time.
Get an SSD just for the OS, 10 second boot time over 1 minute or 40 seconds any day.
I would rather have this.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VzQ2K8
>>335819546
Man, you got everyone in this thread good
>>335814290
by 5$ dollar pc he means an ancient RPi running emulators with games from the 80s/90s
>>335819246
It's amazing how you idiots still think it's 1999 where PCs are arcane to maintain and that you need to download a billion drivers and patches to play games that are too unstable. So instead they buy a console which has to deal with firmware updates and day one patches, but also pay online fees for multiplayer just so they can deal with error messages instead of blue screens
Of course you will claim they buy consoles for the exclusives, despite the fact that most console owners don't actually buy exclusives and just use their console as a Netflix machine that plays GTA/COD/FIFA/Minecraft etc. If they're really hardcore they'll buy a FOTM ubishot or EA action game like Asscreed.
>>335819663
to be fair he's presenting himself with a $6000 budget
while a $900 PC can attain good framerates at decent resolution, if he has the money, he may as well go for something more powerful
>>335813836
You don't have $6000 for a pc bro.
£3000 is more like $3800 dollars when you consider differences in tax rates, regional pricing and the more accurate conversion rate of 1.4.
>>335819705
>that disgusting motion blur
Kill yourself
>>335819663
you're not gaming at 4k 60fps though on an oled monitor so what's the point?
>>335819063
>only 1 GPU
>only 500 GB SSD when you can get a 1 TB for 200 bucks
>not a 3 TB drive for everything that isn't a program and a 4TB drive for backups
Not even close to to high end.
>>335819705
JC3 doesn't even run more than 30fps on consoles you dolt. Fuck off with your shitposting and appeal to extremes.
>>335819796
US dollar is weak my friend
How much should I expect to pay for a PC that can play most shittily optimized games at 60 FPS on medium?
>>335819246
You can buy prebuilds for retards just like consoles are. Only that you are not actively helping ruining video-games and got a free OS and can do everything imaginable software and hardware wise.
Consoles are dead and they should've died a decade ago, if it weren't for the insanely dumb masses.
>>335817304
WTF is he holding in his hand?
how much will i have to spend on a pc that will be able to run upcoming wii u emulator cemu ??
no need of 4k just simple??
>>335819865
but WHY are you gaming on pc if not for graphics? If not on the cutting edge? If not 4k 60+fps like you guys said you do?
>>335819901
$600-$800
>>335819710
>skimping on the power supply
Lol no he isn't, he's actually overdoing it.
>>335813836
With emulators being fucking amazing these days, yes, yes I think it's worth it.
>>335817895
And whose fault is that you incredible cretin...
I swear you kids get dumber by the minute.
In fact there is as good as nothing worth playing these days, except for the occasional "not so incredible shit and moneygrabbing" game.
>>335820092
>>335819901
>>335820097
Forgot the link
http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/W9Xscf/650-intel-skylake-gaming-pc
>>335819901
>>335820097
>i5 combo deal with everything but GPU
>$380
>used 770
>$150
>$15 m/kb ebay combo
$550. It's like $750 with the 970.
>>335820097
Guess I'll start saving up, god damn.
>>335819783
>it's not 1999!
>you don't need to fuck with PC games to get them to work the way you want them!
>PC is just plug-n-play! :^)
>>335820060
pliers
>>335814601
You're confused. There are 1000x more script Kiddies on consoles than on pc, and the ones on pc usually just get banned by an admin or mod as soon as one joins the server.
>>335813836
YesBut not for much longer. Yes, PC is the last bastion of true gaming and actually in the long term probably the cheapest option but the truth that no PCfag other than me will admit is that we, yess even the master race, are getting fucked. Gaming is in the dark ages now, good games are rare as fuck and DRM and microtransactions are the new normal across all platforms. Gaming is circling the drain right now.
>tl;dr We are all equally fucked by the shit plaguing this industry.
>>335820150
He is skimping on it, EVGA is shit except for the good rebrands like superflower EVGA G2s and seasonic.
>>335820152
>emulators
do you just throw out your consoles or something?
just plug them up to your bvm monitor.
>>335820220
>used 770
Have you seen the recent benchmarks? Kepler cards are fucking dead
And a 970 can do games on ultra at 1080p, not medium
>>335817895
>There aren't even any decent exclusives on pc.
There are lots but any I'd list would be dismissed as 'indie', 'early access' or some other crap.
Enjoy your 5 games.
>>335819846
Funnily enough I can run some games on 4k, granted with 30ish frames but still. Consoles cant even handle 1080p 30 most of the time. It's almost comical how they can get away with that.
Hell the hardware industry must be furious.
>>335819783
Hell, even the console kiddies on /v/ still think this. They all say consoles are better because they don't have to spend $2,000 on a magic box that gets sick with viruses and blue screens itself on fire or something
Its ridiculous how well marketers have convinced people that computers essentially run on magic that only super nerds can understand so that they don't stop buying prebuilts
>>335820258
Let's see here...I have about 75 games on Steam, and have played many of them. Plus a few games on Origin, a couple of Blizzard game and a few older games that I have retail disc copies of (e.g. System Shock 2). As far as I can remember, the only game that I had trouble launching and running due to drivers was the Enhanced Edition of the first Witcher. A quick driver update resolved that problem. I had to install fan patches (and did so without difficulty) for System Shock 2 and Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines to get them to run properly on Windows 7. Otherwise, for nearly every other game, I simply launched them and they ran just fine with default settings, which were usually set to "medium" or "high". The only reason I went into the settings is to see how much more I could squeeze out of the game while maintaining 60 FPS or close to it.
>image.jpg
Oh right, you're just mobile shitposting. Nevermind.
>>335820384
>Have you seen the recent benchmarks? Kepler cards are fucking dead
what was that? 2 years?
I thought pc fats weren't forced to upgrade.
>>335820081
If you buy used you can get a max everything currently PC for about 700. no idea about the emu but it can't be that demanding.
>>335820302
Pc gamers are "fucked" by consoles and nothing else. Pc is doing great in spite of consoles ruining everything.
>>335820258
>he's just pretending to be retarded because that's what he considers bait
/v/ is full of you little faggots, and tbqh, you all need to die.
>>335820575
700 huh its good i think
will tell my momma to buy me one
>>335818880
faggot
>>335820092
Nice strawman, you forget that a PC is more than just a platform made to milk your sorry ass but a free platform with which you can do anything there is software and hardware wise.
You are a complete moron and a passive aggressive little moron at that.
>>335814817
He said MODDED Skyrim faggot. Modded Skyrim is the best parts of Morrowind/Daggerfall with better combat. You can play Sims: Medieval Edition if you want or you can do what I do and RP as apregnant, drug addicted, dog fucking slave slut modeled after Elizabeth from Bioshock.
>>335820234
A good tip is to buy a GPU used. I bought like 4 by now never had a problem, and I got 2 780ti's for roughly 500$. That's 4k ready for a fraction of a titanX.
>looking to build a PC with a budget of $1000
>see this thread
>doubt.jpg
Stop making me question myself
>>335820750
don't sit there and act like every game gets mods.
no game gets real mods unless it's bethesda shit or gta.
and also, don't act like you use your computer for any significant work other than basic resource-light applications and 4chan.
>>335820302
>but the truth that no PCfag other than me will admit is that we, yess even the master race, are getting fucked
We've been saying that since 06 what are you talking about.
Video-games are fucked and it happened slowly but steadily and there is no one else to blame but the dumbass masses and their communist shitboxes.
>>335813836
>At the moment I use an Xbone
LMAO
>>335820081
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tqGz8d
this can already be used for Dolphin
>>335820543
If you bought AMD 7950 and r9 200s and up back then, you don't have to upgrade.
>>335820543
You aren't and you are misinterpreting his granted idiotic statement.
>>335820961
Just buy a z170 Gaming motherboard and i7 6700k and play off intel graphics for another month or two for the new graphics cards to drop.
>>335820961
Does this 1000 dollarydoos include monitor, keyboard and mouse?
>>335813836
A $600-700 dollar machine should outperform an xbone and run almost anything decently. But desu the only PC exclusives are indieshit kikestarters, and all the console ports are butchered shit.
>>335813836
I spent 1350€ on a gaming computer and that's pretty much the cheapest you can get if you want a semi-OK one.
If you want a decent gaming PC you needto spend more than 2500€, the graphics card alone costs 1200€.
>>335821076
Shut the hell up.
There are plenty of great games coming out.
Sunset Overdrive
Forza 6
Halo 5
Disgaea 5
Alienation
Witcher 3
Far Cry 4
Overwatch
Titanfall
Forza Horizon 2
Gears 4
Volume
Astebreed
Uncharted 4
Killzone Shadowfall
Infamous Second Son
Gran Turismo Sport etc.
>>335821027
I never said anything about mods my underdeveloped little friend.
And I use my PC for Heavy video editing and to record in my little studio. Which with today's software turns a normal PC and some extra hardware into a completely valid sound recording workstation.
Where is your god now you little shit?
>>335821434
I read 2 I'm slightly interested about.
And Just listing some games doesn't magically"unfuck" the fucked industry that is milking us like we are made of gold all the while innovation and imagination are completely wiped off the map. All but a few developers out there in today's market are talentless, passionless hacks that don't even like what they do anymore.
>>335817119
I'd personally get rid of the CPU cooler and SSD and put the money towards a GTX 980ti but this is a decent build
>>335821867
The only people in the studios that aren't just running to their to 5 job are the art departments.
3D modelling, Art design and level designers are the last bastion of passion this industry has left. But those can only do so much.
>>335821867
you're being far too cynical. maybe you're losing interest in games. I would suggest you leave so as not to shit on everyone else's fun.
>>335821318
Will older cards drop in price significantly when new cards release?
>>335821376
No
>>335821417
BWAHAHAHAAH
I bet you had them come to your house and "install" it for you too you imbecile.
Kindly jump off a bridge.
>>335822267
Even if they only drop 100-200 bucks, I'd say that's worth waiting a month or two for.
>>335814759
You can use controllers too, smart guy.
>>335822267
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MLzwwP
get the 380x and then wait for VEGA
>>335821318
>people telling other people to buy i7s for gaming
>i7s that have maybe a 10% performance boost over decently OCed 5 year old cpus
>>335819705
Look my underdeveloped little manlet, the thing is that PC's are a free platform. You can get what you want and what you can afford. That's the performance you get. It's democratic and in the sense of the free market. Some are enthusiasts and spend 500$ on a case alone, because they want to, and others are buying for their needs which may or may not differ from that.
Consoles are communistic by nature. Everyone gets the same shit you get served. Not more not less. The console industry tells you what you get and tells you how you get it and what OS and extra software you get and there is no way around it. So they have complete control over their customers, meanign you as a consumer. They got you by the balls and they squeeze as along and as hard as they want because they are in an entertainment medium which people WANT to have.
You cant just go and say "ok thats it I'm looking for another lifelong hobby" and they know it.
Face it kids they told you what you have to like since you were little and thats all you get and nothing more.
The industry at this point is irreversibly fucked. Unless the masses aren't allowed to dictate the market anymore, which in a democratic free market is simply not going to happen.
Ergo, we're fucked.
>>335821318
>Buying an i7 for anything other than video rendering
3000 quid?
you don't need to spend that much for a medium high end rig
Here's my one, I built last month for £1200. Can play pretty much all the latest AAA games on high/ultra.
>>335813836
>I have about £3000 / $6000
You wish, Muhammad.
>>335813836
>>335817304
>>335818709
these pictures trigger me man
pls stop
>>335822198
I wished you kids would have found your "fun" elsewhere but you didn't and you ruined my favorite pastime with your "fun".
The least you could do is to take the deserved criticism like the manlet that you are...
>>335823760
>>335817304
looks like a model from one of my gay porn websites
>>335817304
is
Is that a light bulb?
>>335824371
>not having light bulbs in your pc
>>335813836
You're probably not going to be playing games on the fucking thing, anyways. Just get a laptop.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/33bFD3
How's this build?
Do I wait a few more months until Nvidia drops the next gen GPUs and save up some more to get a flagman of those suckers, or do I go all out now and build a rig based on the 980 Ti? The wait is killing me, but I don't want to fuck myself over for the next few years by jumping the gun.
>>335814247
>>335824769
Yes wait. The die shrink and new architectures will be nice
They're just around the corner
>>335824759
>i7
>no normal HDD for nonprograms
Try again.
>>335814759
But it is worse controls because you can only use one type of controller.
For PC you can LITERALLY use every controller to ever come out.
>>335824745
>Just get a laptop.
For what purpose?? Laptops are double the price for the same hardware and simply break way too often due to insufficient airflow.
There is no valid reason for a high performance laptop other that you need it for work..
And if its just for college, get a fucking notebook, thats 200~ bucks for watching porn and writing shit.
>>335825008
Or you can just use an xbox 360 controller, ie the best controller ever made.
>>335824769
Just wait.
Even if the 1080's are a flop, the 980 will decrease in price by a pretty large amount.
>people think building a PC is "expensive"
>really the cost is all in the fucking video card
you could cheap out on everything except the power supply and still game at ultra as long as you spend 400$ on a video card.
>>335825350
The cost can go to a lot of things. GPU is the MAIN one, sure, especially since its what needs upgrading the most, but, either initially or later on, you can easily spend a lot on the monitor(s), the hard drives (yes you should have at least 3 for a good setup), the CPU for your initial build, and other bits, like a good mechanical keyboard, or good mouse, maybe a nice computer chair or desk. Speakers or headphones. All those things you wouldn't necessarily have unless you wanted to really dive into PC gaming.
>>335825257
I am skeptical of that. I mean, it might drop by 100 bucks, maybe, but thats just a big maybe. GPUs tend to stay more static in price than you would expect, if you buy them new. Yeah, used get way cheaper, but new ones don't drop in price nearly as much as one would think.
>>335823284
That's pretty fucking cheap for a nano, nice.
>>335825719
i was gonna say: anything other than the GPU is a luxury, i should've included that.
SSD? kind of a luxury. i mean you can get on fine with an HDD.
playing over 1080p? kind of a luxury, but yeah, you're right.
honestly a high end chair is probably a necessity, not a luxury and my back is paying for it.
OP that's more than enough.
Wait a lil while for some high end shit to drop, build a good rig and buy:
>Civ 5
>Warband
>Risk of Rain
That's hundreds of hours straight away, without even touching the big AAA mad popular PC games.
How much would a nice chair and desk cost?
Nothing too expensive, though.
>>335823284
AMD, hiiiioooooooooooo
>>335825907
Yeah I don't get people that get a gaming PC to sit in front of for hours on end and get shitty 10 dollar chairs. Get something that won't kill your back. Something comfy and supportive.
>>335825809
Don't forget about all the people who'll jump at the opportunity to get the latest and greatest shit just because it's new, regardless of whether they actually need it or not. I think there's gonna be a healthy influx of used 980s and 970s going for 3/4 or even half price.
Is 1440p gaming worth it
>>335825978
Really depends on your specific needs for the desk. My desk is both for my computer and gamebox storage so it had to be a bit fancier than JUST a desk, and it still only ran me about 90 bucks. My chair was on sale for 120 when I bought it and is very comfy. So I dunno, 200 bucks I guess? Less if you go really simple for the desk.
>>335825978
It's easy to build a desk for cheap. Ikea has lots of good ones
Chairs can range from $50 to $1000+, find one that has what you want for the price you want
>>335813836
>open PSU
AAAAAAAAAAH
>>335826108
Well yeah, thats what I said. Used will get cheap, but thats if you want to buy used.
>>335826184
Its pretty. Past that? Eh. Its a real resource hog, especially when using multiple monitors. Get read to pay out the nose to support it. Resolution is one of THE biggest resource hogs when it comes to graphical performance.
>>335826184
Not really. If you have nothing and can get a 1440 monitor for cheap, go for it. But I'd recommend actually getting a bigass HDTV that does 1080p/60Hz and using that as a monitor. The difference in resolution is way smaller than the difference in screen size.
Are SSDs a /g/ meme or actually worth the premium over HDDs, that's the real question.
>>335826462
Fuck loading times. After using an SSD I can't go back to using an HDD, not even the 7200rpm ones, to put games in. Games with fuck long loading times on my PS4 now drive me up the wall.
Only $6000? Don't make me laugh, peasant.
>>335813836
Hey man can I borrow like 500$ to build one?
>>335826462
>Are SSDs a /g/ meme or actually worth the premium over HDDs, that's the real question.
Yes. You pay for speed with SSDs, not storage. Keep your HDD for storage, SSD for boot drive and frequently used programs and games
You'll get faster boot times, and much more overall system responsiveness in the OS and in programs installed on it
Anyone who's used an SSD wil tell you they can't go back to not using them, and anyone who says they aren't worth it hasn't used one or is lying
You can Get 250gb ones now for like $80, so there's no reason not to have one
>>335826462
The value of screen size is directly proportional to how far from the screen you are. You don't need a 60 inch monitor for something 3 feet in front of your face. Resolution gives you a better "experience" at all distances.
>>335826897
sent ;)
>>335814031
>spending less than $1000 on a PC
May as well just buy a console
>>335826462
The only "meme" is people saying SSDs don't matter.
SSDs give a HUGE load time increase to everything. You honestly don't realize how much time you spend sitting around waiting for things to load until you get an SSD that makes everything practically instant. Its insane.
Not to mention, modern SSDs have an expected lifetime of decades, as opposed to MAYBE A DECADE from standard HDDs.
Not getting an SSD is shooting yourself in the foot.
I would only even consider not getting one if you are building your very first computer on a very small budget and need to cut every possible corner.
>>335826849
who buys this
even when tech-illiterate rich parents buy their kids new laptops, can't they just stop and think "wait, this isn't right, $8000 for a computer is too much"
Assuming you already have a case, keyboard, and mouse, you can build a pretty decent PC for aroud $400.
FX-6300
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
PNY Anarchy 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3
Zotac GeForce GTX 950
EVGA 80+ bronze 500watt PSU
This can run fallout 4 at 60fps on ULTRA settings. Dont ever listen to the retards who say it costs too much. It never costs too much if you know what parts to get.
>>335827165
Tech-illterate people are just, that. Completely fucking ignorant of anything tech related. So yeah, they don't know shit.
this one is great
>>335827257
>run fallout 4 at 60 fps
Nothing runs fallout 4 at a stable 60fps. The game is unoptimized and buggy as shit.
>>335826184
1440p 96 fps here.
No.
For productivity it's great but other than that no.
The 96 fps barely makes a difference too.
>>335827106
you are a retard
>>335827154
ssds aren't needed at all, if you need space and a fast driver just get 1TB of 7200rmp
t. someone that actually has an ssd
Of course it's fast but saying it's must is fucking stupid.
>>335826849
holy shit that mobile GPU
the heat output on that laptop must make it a fucking grill
>>335827257
>This can run fallout 4 at 60fps on ULTRA settings
Why do you people always lie about budget system performance?
>>335827257
I have a FX-6350 I overclocked to 4.4 GHz.
It's still not very good desu.
>>335826973
That's the thing. Of course you wouldn't use an HDTV if you're gonna have it set up a few feet away from your face. It is, however, a fantastic option to have if you've got your PC set up as an entertainment hub of sorts. Get a nice, comfy couch, because chairs are for suckers, and put that bigass motherfucker on the other side of the room. It's like having a console, but better. Hell, hook up a gamepad and you do have a console, in terms of gaming, but better. Also this setup is great as a home cinema sort of thing. Just hook up some good speakers to your PC, which you should be doing anyway, and enjoy.
>>335827257
>>335827628
AMD's current cpus are shit. They need Zen to save them
>>335827471
Thats like GPUS aren't needed at all. Just use the one built into your CPU. Sure everything will look and run like shit, but who cares?
Fucking retard logic.
>>335827471
SSDs aren't NEEDED, but when you have $6000 to spend on a PC, there's no harm in getting one.
It would be best for OP to get an SSD with like 256 or 500 GB and then get a big hard drive to store other things on. And also important for him to read up on optimizing his SSD and do it before he installs all his shit.
>>335815007
maybe if you already have all the peripherals like keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers/headphones, case & power supply. I'd say spend 200 on a graphics card, 150 on motherboard, 100 on ram, 150 on CPU and you'll have a decent computer
>>335827732
I've considered that sort of setup, but I haven't figured out a comfortable way to use a keyboard and mouse.
>>335827315
But surely there must be a point where common sense kicks in regardless of how little you know about a subject. I mean, 8 fucking grand for a laptop should sound like way too much to anyone who isn't a literal retard. I don't know shit about fishing boats, for example, but if someone told me to buy a new fishing boat for a million dollars, I'd think something is bullshit.
>>335827841
>Fucking retard logic.
Speak for yourself moron, they do two completely different things and there doesn't exist a viable alternative to graphic cards.
>>335813836
You need less than a third of that to build a PC. Jus get a memevidia 970, an i70 processor and a GB of ram
>>335814337
>Lineage II
Literally WHAT? It was considered autismfest by 2005 standards
>>335827914
You can get away with 100 dollar motherboards.
>>335814058
>tfw built a $2000 4chan machine
>>335827961
Cars can cost 15k. Cars can cost 2 million. Rich people see expensive things and assume they are expensive for a good reason. Its the curse of not knowing any better.
>>335827914
>>335828010
Yeah and then if you want to upgrade later, you'll have to buy a new motherboard with more capabilities. I had to do it when I wanted to SLI with a new GPU I had gotten.
If you go on eBay, there's sometimes an auction on motherboards where you can get them cheaper. It's how I got my new extreme4 mobo.
>>335827871
The price of SSDs has gone down so much there's no point in not getting one.
For $150 you can get significantly faster load times.
>>335827437
The fuck you talking about? It runs perfectly.
>>335827154
Even with TRIM enabled, most SSDs lose half their write speed within a year. Crystal Disk your shit if you doubt it anon. I've got a few systems running various ones and all have the same result. From Samsung, Intel and Crucial, the read speed stays the same though. I guess it's nice for boot times and loading screens still tho.
As for cost... $6000 may sound insane but it's pretty easy to spend that if you're going all out on a full build and setup.
>4k gaming rig
Such as pic related ran me like $3400.
>Monitor(s)
Depends here, you've got choices.
>27" 1440p Gsync
$700-800
>34" Ultrawide 1440p 100hz Gsync
$1200
>27~32" 4k 60hz gsync
$600
>If multiple panels, you'll want mounting
>$350ish for good 3way arm mounts
Next up you've got sound.
>Decent DAC/AMP
$200-400
>Studio cans
$200-500
Or if you're going for solid speakers, I ended up getting yamaha HS8s which ran me $1000.
Desks can run you anywhere from 150->500+ easily. Then of course a good chair is a must which you should expect to spend $300-500 on. And lastly not sure how I forgot, peripherals. Good mouse, $50ish. Mechanical kbs run $75-100, a good desk mic isn't expensive at least.
So yeah, you can easily drop 6k USD on an entire setup once you're all said n done. I put about 8k USD into my own setup, no regrets.
