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I've been invading all day, and I'm only halfway towards getting the ring.


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I've been invading all day, and I'm only halfway towards getting the ring. Five measly tongues.

If there's just the host, sure, I'll be a little fair. And I can most often handle two. I cannot handle three, four or five people hammering R1 inside my ass for days.

Just give me five measly tongues, and I swear I will never ever invade as a red phantom again, since it's pretty obvious the game doesn't want you to.
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>>335809460

Breh. just farm them off the darkwraths outside abyss watchers.

Thats getting you swordgrass as well cause you need 30 of that shit.
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>>335809460
What ring? I never invade but maybe I should start
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1. Invade in Irithyll just after the Pontiff Sulyvahn bonfire
2. Keep doing so until you enter a world in which the host is with a couple of phantoms and they're clearly just farming kills against invaders
3. Run away and hide
4. Put the controller down and wait for forked tongues to appear while you do something else

That's what I did. Other people kept invading and every now and then a phantom would kill a Darkmoon boy which automatically gave me a forked tongue. I got 3 in about 30 minutes.
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>>335809460
I got 10 with about an hour of PVP by just laying my invasion sign. A lot of that time was me accepting invasion signs as well, so it was more like 20-30 minutes.
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Stop being trash. Be patient. Use the environment (lifts, enemies, shortcuts) to your advantage. Use white / dark ring and blend in when there's confusion. Isolate the host on a lift by switch baiting or rolling on top of it (easiest in the archives).

It's not difficult.
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>>335809460
another day another salty invader complaining.
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>>335809957
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

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>>335810036
>>>/b/
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>>335809460
Where are you invading?
You need to pick spots that give you an overwhelming advantage on ambush if you want to get tongues quickly, ie catacombs bridge, all of the prison segments with jailers, and the poison swamp.

Shitty spots like undead settlement and upper lothric castle often guarantee a 4v1 against you rapidly.
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>>335810137
filtered
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>>335809957
Hi there!

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planning on just putting a podcast on and farming
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>>335810137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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Git gud.

Last night I was invading the archives on my Gatts character and walked away with 1 invasion with 2 forked tongues and a pale tongue - 5 tongues total.
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>>335809460

You think that's bad?
I can't even get summoned as a Blade of the Dark Moon.
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>>335810137
>/b/
>tripcodes

oh boy another retarded tripfaggot to filter
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>Kill dickwriaths outside Watchers
>Set sign down outside of Pontiff's bonfire and duel people

I got sick of it too. But tons of people PvP outside of the Pontiff's bonfire and I'd say a majority of the times I was summoned I'd just face the host. They're ready for you, naturally, but if you're decent you can deal with them most of the time. Or just throw a mimic's head on your own with the gold serpent ring and get farming. You can also farm swordgrass there.
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>>335810337

Because nobody bothers equipping the Way of the Blue covenant.
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>>335810257

This desu, cept i've been listening to audio books.

>Farmed all thirty concord ears and like five human dregs and never got summoned as a darkmoon

I guess you just have to do it early. literally nobody uses way of the blue past SL50
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>>335809460
Just put down the soapstone nigga. Got 30 medals and 20 tongues in 5 hours.

Don't invade and expect shit to be fair.
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>>335810337

Sinning needs to be brought back in some competent form so Darkmoon can get invasions by more than just people using the WoB covenant.

At least it's not as broken as it was in DS2. Darkmoon didn't even fucking function at all.
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>>335810337
What's your SL and max weapon upgrade level?

I blew through Darkmoon in under three hours at SL25 with a +2 weap.
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>>335810232
>>335810247
>>335810260
>>>/b/

>>335810341
Nonsensical, the last time I was on /b/ there were tripcodes.

You are probably too new to remember that, though.
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>>335810337
>Farming ears from knights
>Get summoned after like an hour
>Two hosts sitting around just waiting for dickwraiths and aldritch faithful
>Keep getting summoned because they do it for like an hour
>Manage to get 20 ears
>One of the hosts sends me a friend request after

I know it's cheap as hell to gang up on invaders like that, but man was it nice to just get that shit done.
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>>335810587
kill yourself
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>>335809752
Obscuring Ring. Makes you invisible until you're inside lock-on range. I want to use it for shenanigans, and tricking phantoms.
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>>335810587
Hi there!

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Some of the gank squads are pretty pathetic.

>Invade in cathedral of the deep
>See a two whites running away
>Just around the corner see one of them lay down under water where I can't see them
>host is standing there with my back turned to me
>one gold phantom sticking out of the water because he's too retarded to do the right emote
>that makes 3 phantoms and a host to deal with. I like a challenge
>Pull out my bow and shoot at the host, because I'm not falling for that ruse of theirs
>All of them stand up, including yet ANOTHER phantom with an untrue ring.
>I'm guessing the last one was a purple or red buttbudy of the host.
>bail, because 1vs5 isn't what I had in mind, and run under the giant
>Host activates a seed of a tree of giants
>Mobs are on my ass too
>Manage to fight my way to higher ground
>Host and 4 phantoms still taunting me
>I take out my bow again start taking potshots at the host, while doing taunts as well
>Host puts two of his buttbudys on the rising platforms so they can shoot at me
>At this point it's obvious they're either in the same room or on voicechat
>Still alive at this point, one of the phantoms falls to his death
>Host bails and immediately summons him again
>Battle my way through some more NPC's, out of estus and half health at this point
>Use a white branch, and turn into a fuckhueg statue
>Place myself in the middle of a dead end so it looks like the statue belongs there
>Get some coffee, the 5 man gank patrol is too pussy to get worn down invader it seems
>Once I get back I see 2 whites and a gold run past me, clearing the area
>Wait for the host and untrue ring faggot to pass as well
>Red/grape phantom is escorting the host
>Two phantoms getting #rekt by the greatsword knight, get some estus back
>unlcloack, chug and go for the kill
>Two VS one
>Get the red/grape and host down to half health
>they manage to kill me anyways

Too bad I didn't get the host, would have been justice at that point. Was pretty fun otherwise.
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>>335810587
You're a fucking faggot
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>>335810587
>filtered

Also kill yourself you humongous faggot. You are not welcome here.
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>>335810839
Whoa nigga do you plan on writing a book about your invasions?
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If you are going for master of rings you don't need to bother with invading or farming pale tongues at all.

There are 3 tongues just laying on the ground in each NG cycle and you have to go to NG+++ anyway for the Life Ring+3.
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Friendly reminder to auto filter all tripfags, regardless of context.

Friendly reminder also, that tripfagging for the purposes of trolling is a 2/10 attempt at best, and isn't even worth seeing.
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>>335810839
the payoff wasn't worth the read, but you're still doing god's work

lie next time and say you backstabbed the host, so I can actually finish masturbating
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>>335810657
No, thank you.

>>335810706
>>>/b/

>>335810845
For talking about video games on the video game board. Right.
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>invade
>host immediately makes a mad dash to the bonfire the summons as many phantoms as they can
>get shrekt

>invade
>host just runs around like a retard
>end up fighting off 2 Darkmoons
>host DC's as I'm ravaging their asshole

>invade
>host is hiding
>didn't even kill anything
>explore from the beginning of the lok-in zone to the fucking boss gate
>spend a half hour rolling into shit and hitting everything destructible
>leave

>invade
>host runs right to the nearest bonfire and summons as many phantoms as they can
>end up running to the most intimidating group of enemies possible
>darkmoon also intercepts
>now a 4v1
>another finger invades
>kill every-fucking-body
>walk away with 3 tongues

>invade
>host has a gank party with them
>don't even get a chance to move, second I become vulnerable I get hammered by 2 fags swinging the dragonslayer axes while the host throws down HELLO carvings
>queue gesture-fest

>invade
>spawn at the ass end of the zone
>by the time I can even get halfway there the host engages the boss
>get booted

>invade
>host DC's

>invade
>another gank squad

Invading is fun maybe 1 or 2 times out of 10. Gank squads definitely make it less fun. What's even more frustrating though is every time I get invaded I'm alone, but every 4/5 times I invade someone they've got a train ready to be run on my ass.
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>>335811037

Hi there!

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Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>335810929
Yeah that whole minute of your life sure will go to waste if you read all that.

>>335811008
Yeah I know, would have been justice. Got hit by a fume greatsword and I couldn't recover. I feel like I did learn a lot during that invasion though, so hopefully I'll get some better stories later. Fucking up gank squads is fun.
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>>335811037

Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>335810587
End thou life
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>>335809460
Ive maxxed out every pvp cov, and I typically invaded a host with 1-2 friends and no other dark spirits. Just get good.
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>>335809460
Git gud fagit
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>>335810928
>>>/b/

>>335810957
Friendly reminder that making posts solely dedicated to tripfriends instead of talkin about the thread subject is poor form.

>>335810670
Obscurity ring is for people not clever enough to disguise themselves effectively.
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Whats your damage looking like right now /v/?
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>>335811168
>>335811198
>>>/b/

>>335811232
No, thank you.
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>>335810706
>if I keep giving him attention, surely he will stop doing the thing I dont like!
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>>335810930
I found out about this shit earlier today. Christ, I was planning on doing all of the achievements but having to go through a majority of the game to NG++ with bosses who can often times kill you in a single combo is a bit much.

It's really shitty. I know achievements/trophies don't matter at all, but expecting players to do that much just to get the stupid thing is insane. You have to do the covenant shit anyway but then go to NG++.
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>>335811343
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>335811343
not even those guys but stop shitting up the thread, they're giving you shit because this is an anonymous image board, trips were created with a purpose and you clearly have no fucking idea what that is
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>>335811316

Isn't bad
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>>335811534
>if I keep giving him attention, surely he will stop doing the thing I dont like!
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who /mayhem/ here

>find my hiding spot
>ember
>seed of giants
>dried fingers
>way of blue
>go afk
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>>335811082
>but every 4/5 times I invade someone they've got a train ready to be run on my ass

Same here, but more like 2 times out of 3. The few times I co-op, all hell breaks loose. We're not talking one Red Phantom, we're talking to-three, plus grapes. That shit is legit fun.
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>>335811412
They are shitposting, they do not want me to stop posting because if I do it gives them one less excuse to shitpost.

>>335811534
>>>/b/
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>>335811552
>trips were created with a purpose
To identify a user. That is literally it. Nothing deeper whatsoever.

Why do newfriends continually spout their head-canon that a tripcode is some esoteric tool to be used as a last resort? If makin quality posts alongside your peers is so difficult, use a filter. Better yet, go back to /b/ with the other newfriends.
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>>335811316
do you get summoned for darkmoon? i never get summoned, no problem invading, sunbroing, etc. but the fucking autosummon covs dont work with me.
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>>335811896
>being this new
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>>335811896
>If makin quality posts alongside your peers is so difficult, use a filter
Not like you're making any quality posts yourself, friendo. Just hope you're getting your kicks out of the special snowflake treatment you think you get out of a trip

Also, stop calling others new when your own new is showing
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>Get invaded
>I don't use phantoms
>Invader gestures, probably glad it's not a gank squad
>Comes charging at me after "hello" gestures
>Use Iron Flesh
>Proceed to R1 spam stunlock him with 0 effort
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>>335809957
Well, then come and invade me and my ganksquad, fuccboi? or wait, maybe you are just spewing bullshit and your little boipussy shrivels up when you invade a world with phantoms? Ye, thought so fuccboi. I am sure the second a ganksquad ramms your little fuccboi ass you lose your cute little trip and post how unfair invaaaading is, waaa waaa!

You invade my world you'd better be prepared to offer you ass up for me and my homies, fuccboi.
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>>335811931
Level 80 with a maxed out weapon sees constant summons but it depends on when you're playing.. There is a ten to one ratio of blue pussies to blue pvpers so in prime time hours you will rarely get summoned

Stayed low level to finish my forest covenant stuff up and saw constant summons on that any time of day
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the best spot for invasions is the first bonfire of Archdragon Peak
most of your hosts will be solo and often you can catch them before they've actually lit the bonfire
if they have hosts you can just back off into the serpent men
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>>335811691
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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I just started NG+ and lost my merchant inventory. I forgot which Ash you bring for her to start selling White Branches? I like to stockpile on them.
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>>335812067
fumb drogposter
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>>335809460
What ring ?
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>>335809836
I don't get forked tongues when other reds die...what am I doing wrong?
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>>335812296
You get them when killing blues
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>>335811968
Whom are you quoting?

>>335812046
I made the first quality post of the thread here >>335809957 in which I gave a specific location and tactic to proactively invade while staying engaged.

>your own new is showing
"I'm not x, YOU'RE x" doesn't work on me.
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>invade as purple at the graveyard in Undead Settlement
>host and three warriors of sunlight
>all of them start shooting magic shit at me
>jump at the platform near the white tree
>host tries jump after me and falls
>duty fulfilled
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>>335812046
Well, to be fair, people used a lot more tripcodes back in like 2004 or so. But that was over a decade ago
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>>335812129
Kek, what a tough guy
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How to get into DS3 pvp?

What are the essentional items,ring and shit for it?
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>run level 80 magic man with all the sorcery boosting items and weapons, +7 court staff
>60 int 30 attune 25 vigor
>invade the dungeon
>as im running around a blueberry spawns right next to me behind an enemy in a cell
>steady chant
>soul spear
>800 damage
>do it again and kill him
>proceed to 1 shot his white phantom and then 1 shot the host at the bonfire
>this happens again 3 out of the 6 invasions i did
>got the ring in less than 30 minutes

Who said magic was bad, again? Keep in mind I'm not even using the red tear stone ring which could be another 20% damage, im not even fully upgraded on my staff and im not even using crystal spells yet
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>>335812440
And you don't see people spew memes from back then anymore for a good reason

>>335812395
>I made the first quality post of the thread
So being fucking captain obvious makes you a quality poster? End it all now, son
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git gud

I maxed out both Shackles and Tongues in like 2 hours in Undead Settlement
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>>335812479
Meta is still early right now so the broken shit hasn't come out of the wood work. Just make sure you keep a parrying shield with you for R1 spam
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>>335812494
they made magic so you have to specifically build for it to get anything out of it, no more surprise suns from flippy havels.
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>>335809460
Just invade in Anor Londo so you get backup.
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>>335812670
I use a caestus because it catches people off guard more. Simple too, so I always have 1 FP to use a weapon art with at full damage.
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>>335811316
Slightly above 400AR with my Dark Sword
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>>335812494

I can't wait to remake my DaS1 dark sorcerer. The lack of a gwyndolin mask is sad (especially as every other unique boss hat can be bought) but I still look forward to being a faaaabulous crystal wizard with a flair for the edgy
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>>335812794
Only reliable way to parry right now is block first attack parry second. Throwing our random parrys with an estus will catch someone occasionally but itsn ot going to stop any straight swords effectively.
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>>335812129
Gank squads are not nearly as difficult as they are made out to be 90% of the time. They are typically made up of overconfident players with low to midrange skill. Most /v/ invaders appear to be impatient children who rush in and try to get the host as fast as possible intead of using any strategy.

This is why so much of the invader complaints come off as childish- because they are.

>>335812174
>>>/b/

>>335812556
Clearly OP lacks common sense and required some obvious advice which hd flown over his/her head. I gave decent, on-topic advice without spoonfeeding or "get good" shitposting. I'd say this makes me a better poster than 8/10 posters ITT.
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>>335810839
That was actually a good read.
Grape Drank here, you did really fucking well.
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>>335809460
Prioritize blues over the host if you see any. They're worth 2 tongues. You can get 10 tongues in one invasion if you're really lucky.
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>Been Uchi user all game
>Decide to respec and try demon great axe
>Weapon art is an aoe lava smash with high poise
>Zwei shitter runs up and hits me twice, can't break poise, gets lava'd

So auto winning is what I've been missing out on.
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>invade
>level is almost empty, most enemies are dead
>no phantoms
>host is a lonely knight with 1 pixel of HP and probably no estus
>I give him an ember and jump off a cliff

I'm an asshole invader but not that much.
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>>335812765

As it should be
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>invading

there's your problem dumb nigger. I got 30 tounges in an hour by just placing my INVADING SUMMON SIGN at popular areas like pontiff
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>>335812174
Doing god's work.
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>>335813147
He was probably baiting you to follow him down a hallway where his gank squad was waiting.
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>>335813147
>Charity and admitting being a dick
You, I like you.
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>no phantoms
May as well ask here. I am a DS3 newbie. What are those "phantoms"?
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>>335813262
thats a super shitty way to do it seeing as you can just throw out a quick throwing knife
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>>335811037
The comma after "No" makes no sense. Please stop writing like that.
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>>335812929
The problem I'm having, personally, is that either one of the phantoms or the host himself know every area inside-out, not that they'll move an inch anyway. Either that, or they just rush the boss room. The host also DC's when I've whittled down their support more often than not.
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>>335813401
few people actually carry those
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>>335813559
>being an unprepared invader
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>>335813262
Nah, he was standing right before a fog wall and I'm a grape, I see if there are more than one phantom when invade.
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>>335813349
Phantoms are other players. If you see white/yellow symbols on the ground, you can summon that player to help you. If you want to be summoned, buy the white soapstone from the shrine handmaiden.
You can also be invaded by players who will try to kill you, and will either be red, purple, or red+blue.
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>>335813646
Most are. Any situation you can hit with a knife would be better spend hitting with a talisman or a crossbow anyway
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>>335813749
I should also mention shades/ghosts that you've probably seen by now if you're playing online. Those are just imprints left by other players in the area, and can't be interacted with. If you interact with a bloodstain, you'll see a shade that replays the death of another player, so you can learn from their mistakes.
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>>335809460
RED SOAPSTONE NIGGA
USE IT
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>>335809460
Use the sign instead
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what level have you guys had the most success for darkmoon/blue sentinel summons?
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>>335809460
Quick question from a lore noob.

So from what I appears, in DaS 1 & 2 the protagonist was fighting to prevent the end of the age of fire so that the age of darkness would not start. But then why did he have to fight all the fire "gods" or whatever the powerful beings who controlled the fire age were called? Wouldn't they be on the same side? Just confusing to me.
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>>335814451
around 40-50
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>>335814468
In DaS 1, your primary objective wasn't simply to kill Gwyn, it was to replace him as kindling for the first flame. The flame was dying because he was.
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>>335814629
In the good ending you usher in the age of dark
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Just invade at the Drago -kin Mausoleum. A lot of people new to the area don't expect and can't fare against the spawning Drakebloods/sometimes Havel. I got 10 sunlight medals in about 20 minutes becauae every time i invaded the host would freak out and die to them. I hardl ever even got to fight hosts there.
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>>335809460
how can anyone go anywhere near pvp in this game?

You need fighting game reaction times to fight yet every video of pvp I watch shows floaty laggy movement in pvp.

Surely its just swing and hope to hit and roll roll roll. I could see it requireing some skill if the lag wasnt so bad.
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>>335814842
There isn't a "good" or "bad" ending. You either extend the age of Fire (Gods), or usher in the age of Dark (Humanity). It's up to the player to decide which is better for the world.
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>>335814468
You have a choice in all the games, better choice was always to not link the flame actually, as this choice is pointless and if something Gwyn is an example that trying to prevent a whole cycle from ending is a really bad idea.
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>doing fight clubs in ng+ at the high wall of lothric
>summon dude named Paul can't find any other soap signs so I just duel him
>shows up with havels shield and the fucking darkblade
>instant turtle mode
>I'm literally standing in front of him not doing anything
>he won't attack me
>heals after I hit him once
>after 20 minutes of taking pot shots at his shield and him chugging estos I finally kill him
>patches squat for days
Who the fuck finds this fun? Why do people turtle this fucking bad how is that any fun to them it was the most aggravating expirence even worse than the people that run around in circles and then think they're clever when they do that thrusting attack with the chaos blade 20 fucking times
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>invade as a purple in Undead Settlement
>host with two phantoms
>also red invades
>waiting for host near the dilapidated bridge bonfire
>suddenly the red backstabs me
>ok, whatever, we start fighting
>the gank squad shows up and smashes the red
>I manage to kill one phantom
>blue phantom arrives
>I ran to the graveyard, giant arrows start flying everywhere
>warrior of sunlight invades
>complete fucking chaos for a couple of minutes
>I almost kill the host but phantoms kill me
>the last thing I see is the red sunbro charges in and killing the host
>I get a sunlight medal
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>>335815172
Nah its typical JRPg tradition to have the secret ending be the good ending. Nothing ever indicates you can walk away from the flame. Its the secret ending so its the good ending. Age of dark ends Gwyn's bullshit
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Can I toss my upgraded weapon? Or should I be prepared to learn ever bosses movesets while doing 50 dmg if I want to twink.
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>>335815668
>Put my sign down as a grape in snow town
>Get summoned
>Find host fighting some goons at half health
>He comes blasting in full speed to kill me
>Gets a few hits on me
>Unlock camera
>Roll behind him
>Parry the knight fuck before she last hits him
>We proceed to kill the mobs
>He does the prayer emote before me as we sip

I could just be a white phantom, but being a grape always creates fun moments.
>
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>>335815995
pick up a fire weapon and you do a good 100 damage
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>>335812937
Thanks, I usually invade as a purple too.

Currently invading with the shadow set and a dark katana and bow. Using the environment and ambushes as a way of winning, because the katana itself is pretty bad.
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>>335811181
When invading, you quickly realize that your main goal shouldn't be to kill the host, it should be to inconvenience/embarrass as many people as you can that are present. 4v1? Bait them into killing themselves somehow. Dodge around their shit and take out a phantom. Have one of them get grabbed by a crab and squeezed to death.

1v1s are boring at this point because you can only cause so much anxiety to one person. Watching four people FREAK OUT is amazing.
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>>335816102
So the game will remember how much I upgraded even if I don't have the weapon any more.
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>>335816192
>That moment when you find a genuine new player
>That moment when you kill all of his phantoms and he literally does not know how to deal with you
>Goes into full panic mode and either pulls the plug or just sprints around the map to get away from you.

Catacombs are hands down the best spot for invasions
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so I was thinking about doing some mid game invasions for Rosaria, but I'm concerned about the gank squads. Would it be viable to get the white phantom ring? Does this even work?
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>>335816192
Yeah definitely this. Organised gank squads still aren't fun to deal with if you play by their rules. So if you see them either turtling around the bonfire, or some fucker is luring you to be ganked, then go and do something else.

If they use a giant seed, then make your way further into the level and just use a white branch.

Wait for backup, abuse lifts, lure monsters to them. Fire arrows at them with the greatbow if they cross a bridge.

1vs1 is fun as well, and should be treated like a duel. 1vs4 should be treated like you're running sens funhouse.
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>>335816383
I got my ass whipped by a clear superior one time.

Fucking out right bolted to the boss.

actually beat the boss too for once.
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>>335816453
It could against some dumbos, but most of the time they'll know you're a red.

The Untrue Dark Ring, the one that makes you look human, can be used to good effect for hiding since you can make yourself blend in more, either with mobs or the environment. Together with the Obscuring Ring, you're a goddamn ninja.
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>>335816453
Its situational to use white ring or new ring. It only gives you an element of suprise on people who are spawning in after the invasion. Obscuring ring would be a better call
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Right, what the fuck does it take to invade someone as a Watchdog? I'm SL 30 with a +2 Astora Greatsword and I have literally spent an hour and a half just waltzing through this whole area, never invading a single host as a Watchdog.

At one point I thought my internet might have been fucking up, but nope, first time I tried to Red Eye Orb invade it worked within seconds and many times after. I just can't get the Watchdog invasions to work at all. What the fuck do I do for the Bloodgrass?
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>invading with the BKGA

Man I just go for giant home run hits now, shit is too much fun when you land it.
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>>335816629
>>335816645
The obscure ring as in the one that obscures you as you roll?
Sorry I've not looked anything up when it comes to this game yet.
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You basically have to win with a parry as an invader. A heavy weapon and hornet ring will help a long way with this.
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Is there any place to buy more white branches? Or do I have to find the chameleon spell?
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>>335816825
Nah, the Obscuring Ring is the ten tongue reward from Rosaria's Fingers. It makes you completely invisible when you're outside of lock-on range (or so).

It's incredibly good for stalking and pranks.

>>335816680
You wait until From fixes the covenants, because they're clearly fucked up in some way or another. Tons of people are having issues. Try re-equipping the covenant item every so often.
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>>335816825
It makes you invisible outside of ten feet or so
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>>335809460
lol I got 10 tongues in 1 hour, get good.

Just ffy, you're not supposed to fight two, let alone three people you're supposed to make them die.
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Where is the crystal time?
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>>335816968
Some ashes eventually unlock them at the handmaiden, but unfortunately I'm not sure what ashes they are. I just noticed that I unlocked them the other day, and I'm at Lothric Castle.
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>>335816975
>>335816991
Fuck yeah that gives me some motivation to actually invade
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WHAT DID THE PATCH CHANGE
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>>335816968
Need to get the xanthous ashes from irithyll dungeon.
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>>335817148
Like I said above, invading becomes less about killing the host and more about fucking with people and causing mayhem. The Obscuring Ring allows you to do just that.

Go get 'em, anon.
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>>335816890
>land a parry
>drop my spaghetti and roll backwards
>land another parry on the same guy
>actually stab the faggot into the ground
every fucking time
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>>335812129
Unless the invader is retarded, the second he notices that the mobs are all dead and the host and his pals are running around looking for him, he will black crystal out.

What? You mean to say "what if I see them first?" as if they wouldn't be wearing an obscuring ring? Then have fun killing your shit invader.
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>invade area after pontiff
>its a fight club
>host and 1 red waiting on the edge was two other niggas fight it out
>obscuring ring is on
>CHARGIN UP THE SOUL STREAM
>FIRE
>kill both of them

Fuck fight clubs tb h lol
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>>335811316
bretty god like

with hornets ring ive been able to 1 shot every single person ive parryed.
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>>335810472
>Invade a someone in the dungeon
>He is by himself, but a blue gets summoned
>Invade another, he has two phantoms
>A blue comes as soon as I kill one of the phantoms
>Invade another, he is also alone, but he runs back to the bonfire to summon people
>Meanwhile a blue comes to help him

Can people just equip the covenant after they get invaded or something? I can't believe that there are so many people walking around with the Way of the Blue covenant equipped.

Literally 7 out of 10 hosts I invade get blues summoned.
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>>335815771
If you played DaS2 you'd know that even if you sided with Kaathe it didn't matter because someone else comes along and links the fire anyway.
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>invade
>its a gank
>invade
>another gank
>invade
>gank
>invade
>gank
WHEN WILL IT END
i've won a few but fuck me, im fighting for my life in each gank
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>>335816975

>From fixes the covenants

So basically never.

Fuck it, I'll just farm.
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>>335816680
>uses Dark Armor
>not using Dark Sword
What a good player
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>>335810839
Just black crystal out.

It takes around 10 seconds to find another invasion anyway.
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>never get summon as darkmoon
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>>335817509
Holy fuck, what

Did a patch adjust this, or did it always have that much AR? Goddamn.
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>>335810587
Fuck off, retard.
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>>335817072
>>335817256
Thanks, I'm close enough to the dungeon.
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>>335817842
And miss the chance to fuck with these people?
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>>335817963
Darkmoon should be the ones that invade fingers and faithfuls with a blue eye orb.

They should have left the defending for the Blue Sentinels alone.

Why have two covenants with the exact same function?
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>>335817812

I have the Dark Sword upgraded to +2, but I prefer the Astora Greatsword moveset way, way more.
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>>335816383
>invade someone
>he's wearing the Fallen Knight set and is using an Uchi + mid shield
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>>335818186
They also have fun while trying to kill you.

I don't want those assholes having any fun, so when I notice a ganksquad, I don't think twice, its black crystal.
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>>335817982
It's split damage so it does a good amount less than that

It's still really strong though
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>>335809460

Wut. I got 20 over a day. Invade lower levels. Just be patient and use the enemies to your advantage. The host will run out of estus eventually, as will the summons.
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>>335817982
this isnt even my final form
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>>335809460
Catacombs is the best. Use the skelly ball to your advantage. I'm obscured and silence with my great bow knocking the host off the ledge without fail.
>At level 35
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>>335817669
People have it equipped because there is no down side.
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>>335816975
>Try re-equipping the covenant item every so often.
it actually worked
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>invade in catacombs of carthus
>get ganked
>run across the bridge
>all the skellingtons awake
they're fighting that hoard off
>sit back on bridge and enjoy them getting killed
>2 phantoms die
>only host left
>cut the bridge rope as he runs across
>it worked
>mfw
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Grinding out Covenants before I start NG+, SL 91 where's a good place for late game invasions? Was gonna try out Consumed King's Garden.
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>Invade a guy
>He has a Phantom and a blue is instantly summoned
>Manage to kill both of them and start fucking the Host up as he always barely survives
>After using up maybe 7 estus, he runs back to the Bonfire and starts trying to summon more phantoms
>He keeps getting unable to summon but another blue gets summoned while it happens
>The host keeps running around the bonfire while I try to finish him off, but the blue arrives and I have to fight him
>The host manages to summon a phantom
>Just as I deliver the killing blow to the blue, the host and the new phantom come suddenly and kill me
>The host starts gesturing like crazy as if he had done anything at all

Joke is on him, two forked tongues, bitch.
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So I missed a few rings/spells when an npc or two had an.. accident in firelink. Am I able to pick up these things on a new character and still get the achievements or do I have to enter NG+ and get them on one character. Thanks for any clarification in advance.
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>>335819125
give their ashes to the handmaiden and she will sell their shit
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>>335818980
In the exact same situation and would like to know as well. I can get plenty of quick invasions in the archives but stood there for 6 hours the other day and didn't get a single darkmoon summon. I can't force myself to farm silver knights anymore.
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>>335811037
Are you the new Lucifer?
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>>335809460
do From fans ever stop bitching and moaning and complaining?

If you want a 1 v 1 fight then use the fucking soapstone. Are you literally brain damaged?
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Want easy wins AND hatemail? Follow this easy guide!

>Invade in catacombs
>Run right to the first skele ball
>Run to the lower end of the stairs
>Wait around corner
>When host comes, jab and stab a little
>Retreat to the skeles in the hallway
>Wait by first arrow trap
>Use it every time a player gets in range
>Retreat back to red eye skeles
>Wait by second arrow trap
>Set it off once faggots get in range
>Help the two red eye'd skeles
>Drop down the pit at the end of the hallway
>Run round to second skele ball
>Wait around corner
>Stab/jab Host as he comes down
>Lead him down Dropping-Blob alley
>Run back to red eyed skele
>Fight Host and Faggots with skele
>Retreat to upper level
>Fight Host with skele again
>Flee across bridge
>Break it
>Force Host to run around
>Black Crystal out if he still has faggot army with him

Even if the Host wins or you crystal out, he won't have enough estus to face the Boss. You may not get a reward but the fact you fucked his game up is good enough.
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>>335819351
How much discovery do you have when farming? Just finished Sunbros, debating on starting Fingers or Darkmoon.
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>>335819258
I mean the things I'm not able to get from her, like whatever greirat was going to pick up on his second trip before dying (which was bugged since I had met all the conditions to have him saved) or the morian blade or the purple covenant items since I killed the tree before joining.

Mostly just want to know if I can play a new character and still get the achievement when I get those items.
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>>335819634
9 Luck, not sure what it is with the crystal rapier and other discovery up gear equipped, but it's not high. Thinking about spending two respecs with Rosaria to just max out luck and them switch back when I'm done. Problem is I like to pvp while I fight the silver knights and using that method would just gimp me for a while.
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This just happened

>invade
>blue gets summoned
>blue gets murdered in two hits
>I turn around and suddenly see this
>Ornstein and smough cosplay
>Can hear the their boss fight music playing in my head already
>get a few hits in on both of them without getting hit
>ornstein retreats to heal
>ornstein uses a giant seed agroing a mace knight
>manage to kill the mace knight
>they're both gone
>they're waddling towards the boss door and smough enters

Fucking anticlimatic. Who the fuck cosplays as those guys and then refuses to give invaders a good fight.
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>>335810839
This is every single 3v1 story for me. I invaded as a grape.

Its not as bad as you think for you because you didn't choose Carthus' Chalice Dungeons where the host can hide in the boss room and you won't be sent home.

I never felt so bad invading in a souls game as I did in Dark Souls 3. I will never respect a sunlight warrior ever again. If I ever meet solaire its kill on sight. If a host is solo no more gestures, kill on sight because 90 percent of the time they hit and run summon signs until there are 3 of them. Even the game sometimes stops their abuse with summoning fails but ultimately the system works against the red and purple covenants.
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>>335819735
If greriat died in the sewers, then he will have the items from that trip when you turn in his ashes

Morion blade can only be obtained after the abyss watchers and before you move down into the catacombs. If you dont immediately warp back, youre fucked. It is important to note, though, that if you talk to Yuria during this moment and get the dialog asking for you to kill orbeck, you can then proceed to kill him at any point in the future and still turn in his ashes at yuria for the blade
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Invade in the library at ~75

I got all the covenent items except watchdogs at that level and mostly the archives
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>>335820078
The way I play is that I finish and area constantly embered with dried fingers active. Solo obviously. Then I try to complete the area normally. Fuck pre battle emotes though, I'll wait for yours to be finished, but don't expect me to fucking bow or do other gay shit. If you're fucking about I'll just shoot you with an arrow or rush you.

Once I clear an area and the boss I go invading others until I'm bored.

Don't lump every player together. Some people want to get invaded.
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Invade in the Smouldering Lake and let the ballista and giant worm do the work for you. Took me two hours to get 30 pale tongues and 30 mound maker bones.
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The only real problem I have with invasions is that the other guy always mysteriously loses connection right as I start destroying him.
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>another crybaby invader thread

Consider you lose absolutely nothing from invasions and the host needs to atleast expend an Ember. Stop crying.
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>>335820618
Happens way less often on the ps4. That and item duping/lag switches/outright cheaters are why I picked it up for console. The downside is that it looks so much better on PC.
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>>335818575
Get that weak shit outta here.
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>Fighting cameramonsters down in the gardens.
>Get toxiced.
>Use my eye as moss.
>Get sent to the wonderful world of Aand and his three friends.
>One glows golden has a sword and shield.
>One is white as a ghost and has some sort of flaming fist weapon.
>One is an NPC.
>Aand is hanging out in back, also using the blandest weapon combo of them all; sword and shield.
>I run in behind them and start causing trouble.
>Backstab the NPC and leave him face down in toxic waste.
>The ghost tries to do some sort of spin attack.
>I poke his face with my glorious Halberd, which lands massive damage due to my Leo Ring.
>One down.
>The NPC is trying to get back to his host.
>Doesn't even try to deal with his impending toxic doom.
>Falls over dead before I can land a killing blow.
>Sunbro and Host is busy doubleteaming a huge greatsword knight.
>I join in.
>Charge that devastating R2.
>SPIN TO WIN.
>Goldielocks tries to block, but his attempts are futile.
>Now Aand is all alone.
>He legs it towards the fog gate, me and a greatsword knight in pursuit.
>Land a hit as he is going through the foggate.
>A pixel of health remains.
>Greatsword knight starts flailing wildly into the fog.
>Get sent home.
>Last thing I hear before loading screen is a distinct sound of death.

No rewards, but it's invasions like that which makes it worth it to be matched against ganksquads.
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R8 my toon
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>>335821425
>split elemental damage
>good

top zoz
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>>335820327
At least you don't summon. You're a better man than many I've encountered in the game. There was a time when I ended up matched with a guy with like 30% HP near the end of a stage. I just jumped off a cliff and let him go because it wasn't worth it. I'm not that desperate for tongues and spines that I'll fight someone who can't fight back.

But when its the reverse, and you can tell the host and his summons are just toying with you because they know you can't win at all, it doesn't make for a fun experience.
I realize I'm trying to justify invasion practices but sometimes you just realize why invaders act so desperate.
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>>335815771
Age of Fire also saw prosperity for Man. You do know Man's true form is Hollow? Age of Dark will just be a bunch of Hollows worshipping Kaathe.
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>invade
>host has 2 phantoms
>all three wield dark swords
>all three wear the Fallen Knight set
>host pops a Seed

Yeah, nah. Black crystal.
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>>335822165
I think that Hollow is a corruption of man's "true form", if that makes any sense. It's like if you tried to reverse someone's age and turn them back into a baby, and shit went wrong and they ended up being some disgusting adult-sized fetus thing.
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>>335811037
fuck off namefag
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>>335809957
I'd love to smash your fucking face in.
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>>335822001
I've been on both sides, my friends constantly want me to join them in some PvP which just means they're all grouping up and using the fingers and I find it boring as hell and feel bad for the invaders since I hate running into these groups myself, thank god they haven't been doing it these last few days though
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>>335810262
It's just Guts
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>>335822001
>kill every single enemy in the archives my first time there
>going back and exploring all the nooks and crannies for items
>get invaded
>don't see the invader for the next 10 minutes, just continue exploring
>he finally finds me and we duel
>I'm at half health and no estus and eventually lose
>guy drops an "I'm sorry" nut and messages me apologizing because he noticed I had cleared the entire area and he expected me to have phantoms

It's ok, bud. Think I got all the items and shortcuts anyway.
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>>335811082
>second I become vulnerable I get hammered by 2 fags swinging the dragonslayer axes while the host throws down HELLO carvings
I would shit out of anger if it happened to mebut thats hilarious
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>invade host with 2 phantoms by his side
>evade them because fuck going in deep
>suddenly a mad spirit invades
>faggot goes after me directly
>host and his phantoms just watch
>mad spirit wields an estoc
>break out the zwei and riposte the faggot

That was satisfying even though the gangbang of the host and his fagbros came on up me just as I was finishing the riposte.
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>>335809669
>kill 100 of them
>get only 1
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>>335810137
Hi there!

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>>335809957
Hi there!

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>>335809460
why do all you whiny cunts act like invading is hard? Anybody with half a brain can handle multiple phantoms, so long as you know how to use the terrain and the mobs
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>>335822428
>not running around and aggroing every single enemy so you can lead them back to the host and his buttbuddies

you fags don't know how to have fun
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>>335823960
*pops seed*
heh.... nothing personnel...
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>>335820018
How do they both appear to be human? I've seen a couple invaders do this and always wondered.
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>>335824184
Too bad they don't leash as well as DaS2.
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>>335809460
lol this post makes no sense. I've been invading in Archives for the past 2 hours.

>level 85
>Gundyr's Halberd +5 and Heavy Dark Sword +10
>nonstop invasions, usually wait is no longer than 15 seconds
>getting good mix of 1v1, 2v1, 3v1, 3v2, and even occasional 4v2
>blues invade whenever there's room but they're an easy 2 tongues for killing them

I got my 30 tongues in an hour last night.
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>>335824184

I did that several times before. The enemy mobs prioritize you over the host.
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>>335824498
>Heavy Dark Sword +10

post ignored and opinion discarded
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>>335810839
A masterwork of an encounter for you and the host.

You made the most of a bad situation and it almost paid off.
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>>335824317
That's me invading them with an untrue ring. Level up with yoel 5 times and another NPC appears that sells those rings. They make you look human or like a white phantom.

Ornstein in that picture was also wearing that ring.
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>>335811082
the hiding guy got you good
I applaud him
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>>335810585
Prob a stupid question but does lower weapon upgrade level = higher summon rate?

I'm SL50 with a +6 greatsword and wondering what SL/weapon level to stop at
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>>335824679
You probably use a katana
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>>335809460
>not doing a low SL, low reinforcement run and invading newbies with a Washing Pole, Grass Crest Shield, fedora, and trenchcoat

Oh, sure, you have to beat all the bosses with only a +2/+3 weapon of choice and Deprived-tier stats, but at least you get easy invasions.
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>>335825171
i have an inventory full of this damn sword and i don't really use them. anyone need one? or a spare dark wraight chest/head?
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You can just go to fight club area after Pontiff, leave the Red Summon sign and kill lonely hosts.
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>>335809957
>people use trips for attention and response
>autist decides to give the tripfag just that
Cant wait for the retorts of "who cares lol!"
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>>335809460
>that feel when you invade and the host has 2 phantoms, you proceed to murder them and he summons more as you chase him around the map, defeating them until you finally corner him and either kill him or he DQs from the fear

Iv only done it twice, but I felt like a god.
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>On pirated client using the online patch
>Get invaded for the first time.
>Completely outplay them, end up backstabbing them twice in the first 20 seconds.
>Turns out they don't take damage.
>They then swing at me like 20 times in a row. Infinite stamina as well.
>Die.

Welp not like I can complain, but christ what a loser.
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>>335817509
>120
>not 100
Enjoy your empty lonely world, cuck.
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>invade as a grape
>host has three fucking phantoms
>a red/aldritch comes along
>he fucking attacks me instead
>this has happened more than once
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>>335824520
>The enemy mobs prioritize you over the host.
No they don't

Do you just make this shit up?
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>>335826240

GET THE FUCK OFF ALDRITCH TURF
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>>335826401
They prioritize whoever attacked them last. If the invader aggros them first, they will stay on him until someone else attacks.
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>>335826240
You're the easiest prey. If whoever invades after you finds a host guarded by 2-3 phantoms, and a lone invader already pitting against them, killing the lone invader is gonna be way easier than killing a host that's probably being shielded and hand held by his phantoms

Still a fucking coward dick move, tho
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>>335826132
k
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>>335826132
al SL 100 you still play with SL120's bro
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Is there a de facto SL for pvp yet? I'm 110, just started NG++
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>>335826747
100-120 seems to be the common stopping point.
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>>335826747
I heard most people are stopping at 120
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>>335826240
>invade as Finger in Archives
>4 man gank squad waiting in elevator room across from princes fight
>kill dumb sunbro, and a grape invades
>host summons another grape
>me and the 2 grapes kill his other 2 phantoms
>oh how the tables have turned
>me and 1 of the grapes go after host, but 2nd grape hangs back
>host is under 25% health when 2nd grape hits me with Smough's Hammer
>no stamina, can't escape quick enough
>2nd swing of the hammer finishes me

Mound-makers are scum.
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>>335809669
faggot

OP just place red summon sign .. i got over 100 tongues in 3 hours bro

shit is easy mane
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Never invaded as a Red in previous souls games. Tried it last night and holy shit, I can see why everyone hates these gank squads. I did get one invasion where the host had 2 whites with him and they all fought me one on one, bad idea in their part but it was pretty fun.
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Hey guys, this is a bit of a dumb question but I'm still a bit new to character builds. Been using a build calculator and well, I'd like to get to 40 DEX but noticed i have the 3 bonus from the Carthus ring. Does this mean i can just level it up to 37 and spend the three spare points elsewhere?
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>>335826581
They gain fucking nothing from killing me though, and will be left with a 4v1 instead of a 4v2 they would have if they had helped me instead. What retarded thought process even causes reds to come after me?
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>>335812129
t o p k e k

is this faggot serious?
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>>335826747
>Is there a de facto SL for pvp yet?
I got all pvp items at 15.
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>>335827168
yes, if you unequip the ring you just won't be able to attack right.
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>>335827202
The same that caused darkmoons invading dark Anor Londo in the first DaS to attack red invaders instead of hosts, sheer retardation

At least killing red invaders as a grey spirit in the belfries in 2 would count as covenant advancement kills
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>>335827312
Ok thanks, just was unsure to do so, if i was planning on keeping ring on me. i guess once i get more rings I'll have option to switch stuff around situation wise
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>>335825202
Raw estoc is even better

New players don't even try to roll out or parry it
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>>335827168
Yes sir

That's why myself and many others just use the prisoner's band to save 15 stat points
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>>335826630
Why is that guy in Rosaria's Fingers? There's literally no point
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>3v1 invasion
>parry + riposte one of the phantoms
>instakills due to hornet ring
>roll around and manage to R1 spam another phantom to death (fuck you I'm R1 spamming 3v1 shit)
>host finally on his own
>feeling good and ready to rek him
>he runs back to bonfire and summons more phantoms before I can reach him
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>>335826747
120-125, just like DaS1.

Man, being a magic user at all is really fucking tough for PvP since you need 24 ATN for four slots, as opposed to DaS1's 16 ATN for four slots.

DaSIII really gave magic the shaft. They need to reduce the ATN requirements or buff spells or something
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>>335827706
>he runs back to bonfire and summons more phantoms before I can reach him

lol just GIT GUD!
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>>335827556
Thanks, that's good to know then! It's my first character and I know I probably should't worry too much about builds but i wanted to make sure I at least understood things
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You definitely should just farm those two Darkwraiths for that. You only need 10, and it's a short walk.

Moundmakers, though...
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>>335812929
Let me ask you a legitimate question. Why do you need a tripcode? If it's for attention then the shit you're getting is deserved. You do not need nor does anyone want to know who you are. You knew it would stir up shit.
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>>335824961
Ah I thought that was it but I haven't tried it out yet. Thanks for confirming Anon.
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>>335827854
That's why I think the PvP meta should be 130-135, because if you want to be any sort of magic user at all you need to be higher level than a pure melee user.

I mean hot damn, 50 ATN in DS3 only gives 7 slots. I think that in DS1 and 2 it gave 10. Not to mention that a lot of really strong spells have really high requirements, like well over 50.

Mages have to make some MAJOR sacrifices if they want to be SL120 and compete with swordsmen. It's not very fair. SL120 PvP is going to be 90% longswords
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>>335825782
Just imagine cheaters with dancer swords/twin axes spinning for infinity with infinite focus, stamina, health, and poise
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>At Pontiffs
>Put on way of the Blue
>Use Dried finger
>Pop a seed of the giants
>Summon a sunbro
>Stated to get invaded by everyone
>A Red, grape,Aldrich
>Darkmoon bros start to spawn in
>Have Obseuring ring
>Go hide
>mfw all this chaos I cause
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>>335829229
Does the water by the crocodogs hide you if you lie down? Cause if so you could just hang out there with silver serpent and shield of want to create a profitable asspain generator.
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want sum?
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>>335829791
Nobody would ever find you
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>>335830026
can't leave/drop covenant items unfortunately
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>>335829791
I should try that.
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>>335809460
There are two dark knights you can farm for tongues outside of the abyss watchers. If you have the mimic helmet, the crystal sages rapier or the gold Coventry serpent ring it makes it very easy to farm.
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>tfw the endgame has turned into "which area has the best hiding spots and allows the most chaos"
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>>335828501
You don't need all that attunement you used to, though. The most a spell takes is 2 slots, and those slots they fill don't include uses for each, they all take out of the same FP pool.

I've got a level 80 magic user, and they have 17 vigor, 30 attunement, 10 endurance, 8 vitality, 12 strength, 10 dexterity, 60 intelligence, 15 faith, and 7 luck.

10 more levels in Vigor hits the softcap, 20 more levels in Vitality hits the softcap, and that leaves 10 left over for probably endurance or attunement just as a dump stat. Swap 20 Int over to Faith if I want pyromancy/dark magic instead even.
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Fun.
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>>335809460
>Hear all these people complaining how pvp is fucking impossible with all of these ganksquads
>Get myself a red orb and invade for the first time in the entire series
>Completely demolish every gank squad I come across, at least a 90% win rate
So is everyone just terrible at video games on this board or what? It's stupid easy to bait ganksquads into enemies and then pick them off one by one. Sure if you get invaded into a situation where they cleared out all the enemies beforehand it might be a bit difficult, but the amount of times that happens compared to regular old invasions is ridiculously small.
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>>335810337
>Blade of the Darkmoon requires Way of the Blue
>No one is using Way of the Blue at that point in the game
Does no one at FROM think this stuff through?
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Just spend the whole night invading in Catacombs. Got like 20 Tongues and had a shit-ton of fun!

Also I never estus when I invade, makes it more tense and feels better when victorious
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>>335832319
>not using dried finger with way of the blue equipped to help out Darkbros that are trying to level the covenant.
What is your issue?
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>>335809460
I can get 10 tongues per hour without even trying. Literally git gud
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>>335832319
Then why do I run into Sentinels and Darkmoons every time I invade at SL110/+10 in NG+? And I mean every single time. Sometimes they're summoned like two seconds after I spawn in.

Is literally everybody in the game a member of these covenants or what? How can I run into this many and see so many people complain about not being summoned?
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>>335832319
plenty of people are using Way of Blue at that point

There's From made it much easier to switch covanents this time around. The only reason NOT to wear WOB is if you're trying to get summoned into Farron or Aldritch.

From addressed the issue pretty well, honestly.
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Anyone at sl120? Is it active?
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>>335833036
can a host change covenants while being invaded? i've never tried
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>>335833036
>>335833115
Tell that to the dozens of people we get every thread who can never get Darkmoon invasions because theres a million Blue Sentinels/Darkmoons and barely any WoBs.
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>>335833323
be the solution, faggot
throw on your WOB and use the fingers

Or you could keep complaining.
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>>335833472
Nigga I'm not even in the Darkmoons, I'm a forest guardian. Stop defending a retarded design choice, especially when the covenant already had a functioning niche in every other game.
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>>335833606
allowing the player to switch covanents on the fly was a step in the right direction.

If its worth anything, I left my Blue Sentinels covanent on for most of the game, and I had over 30 Concords by the time I fought the Princes. Dunno why it doesn't work for some people.
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Where are some invading hotspots at?
I want to help my darkmoon bros out
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I wish you could buy them and the other covenant items.

Either that or make the rewards purchasable but for an extreme amount of souls.
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Auto summon covenants are fucking dumb as hell
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>>335834193
I'm not saying the switching covenants on the go is bad, because it isn't. Teleporting back and forth between areas and restarting your progress every time you wanted to experience was dumb and what we have now is a good change, but binding Darkmoons to the same thing as Blue Sentinels and removing the sin gimmick entirely is a ridiculous thing.
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>>335834304
I would say beginning part of Catacombs around level 30-40 for sure.
If I was not the one invading there was someone invading me within 20 seconds.
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>>335826724

Its +- 10 sl
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>>335833115
Ive gone through several zones with blue sentinel covenant on and never once was summoned
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Holy shit, PvP is pissing me off.

Having to fight this faggot who thinks summoning 3+ phantoms is necessary, only to have another faggot join the party because the pussy is a WoB fucking douche. Fucking fuck
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>>335829791
Well now I'm gonna spam lock on if I ever end up going down there in an invasion.
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>>335827854

Nigga shut the fuck up. You can get 25 vigor, 30 attune and 60 int at sl 80

The fuck are you going to do with those extra 40 sls. You could literally put them all into vit and med roll in havels
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>>335812395
your shit at souls and your "quality post" was unhelpful and uninspired

it was literally a shitpost

also suck a niggerdick or something
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>>335809460
Huh? I've been invading for 5 hours and i'm at 45 tongues. I literally just run towards the host and spam Gundyr Halberd L2
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>It's another "The host and his friends rush the boss door" episode
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>>335809460
Just bought the game and got the the Fire castle with the firekeeper and smith and stuff. But Leonhard is completely missing. He's supposed to be by the big throne in the back of the 2nd floor right? I searched the whole place and he's just not there for no reason.

I did run into a tricky enemy outside the castle who seemed overpowered for the location but I doubt he'd wander outside and aggressively attack me. Idk what to do bros.
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>>335834981
>they taunt when they R1 spam you into oblivion
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>>335826747
In ng id stay around 80-100, 120 for anything else

I noticed a distinct drop off of invasions past sl 80 in the main pvp zone. It also costs more to level
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>>335835509
If you want active early pvp, There's a shit ton happening in the swamp area, with 30-40SL and +3 weapons or less you can get a buttload of invasions.
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>>335835464
I could commit genocide when they attack you in the middle of a greeting gesture.
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>tfw with the right endgame rings, you can be 30 levels higher than what your SL actually shows

as annoying as invasions and phantoms are, the game makes it pretty damn easy to make a twink character

>no weapons past +3
>offhands infused with blessed
>tailbone spear for dat Vortex push, knocking faggots off cliffs and into mobs
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>>335835964
Honestly that isnt a problem since you can roll out of any animation.
Still kinda lacking in manners tho
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>>335836126
It's not that it hurts me, it's the fucking cheek of it. Then he and his buddies fucking beat my balls into the back of my asshole.
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>All those invasion stories

I pirated it and because of that i can only play with other pirates online, which is few. Last time i bought a game for online it was GTA 5 and i played it a grand 2 weeks before getting bored.

How long does the online of this game stay active and fun usually?
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>>335836126
I love this. I let the animation play out as they close the distance and let them think they're in for a free hit. It never works for them. Why do people even try?
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>>335836080
It's also entirely possible that the prisoner's chain ring still influences your matchmaking sl.
Because at low levels 15-30 levels is a huge difference.
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>>335836275
Not long.
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/v/, you have 30 seconds to name ONE, SINGLE thing that Yhorm the Giant did wrong. Go on, I'll wait. Tell me what Yhorm did to deserve death you can't
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>>335835964
This was only a real issue in DaS, and even then could easily prevent it by doing it from a safe distance

If you can't roll under the attack mid gesture in 2 and 3 and get back at them, you're really bad at the game
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What are the best places to farm souls in the very early game? Are there any places that are as profitable as farming the hollows on the Drake bride in the Burg?
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>>335809460
>>335809669
>>335809836
>>335810231


>DRAGON PEAK MAUSOLEUM YOU DUMB FAGGOTS.
>GO THERE. INVADE. PROSPER.
>HOSTS RARELY SUMMON PHANTOMS
>IF THEY DO THERE IS SOME GREAT SPAWN TO DUCK INTO
>MORE INVADERS HERE THE BETTER
>HALF THE TIME THE HOSTS DIE TO MOBS

I've been trying to tell you faggots for days, now get the fuck out there.
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>>335836341
Why do people spam R1 on you while you're fucking spawning into the world? Same answer
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>>335836448
nope, the only thing that affects matchmaking is your stated SL
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>>335836617
in my experience, hosts tend to summon shitloads of phantoms to help deal with the giant snakemen, but they're all too distracted by the pve to put up much of a fight, since the snakemen hit hard
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The mound maker covenant had potential but was implemented terribly, like most covenants.

The covenant is entirely contingent on the retardation of new players, and that fades quickly. Other than that, it might as well just be darkwraith with dick jokes.
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>>335811343
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>335836683
Except we have no way of knowing because from hasn't said shit and no one has tested the matchmaking while wearing the prisoner's ring, that I know of.
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>>335834810
thats only for defending as BDM or BS
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>>335811674
yeah.

if you dont dried finger, summon your bro, and use way of the blue to turn the game into a total fuckfest i dont know why you even boot up ds3 desufampai
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>>335836596
just kill the dancer
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>>335836507
he killed siegward
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>>335837002
that sounds like too much work, farming lothric castle at low levels would be annoying as shit
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So is curl up the big meme emote of this game
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>>335837072
no he didn't
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>people say magic is broken or shit
>can get enough + damage shit at 60 int to literally 1 shot people with crystal soul spears ehich have a fast as fuck cast time and super long range and good tracking
>you get the flashsword which is literally just r1 spam that hits harder, has a lower stam cost and has a longer range than all longswords
>you get soul greatsword which hits through fucking walls
>the ol homing soul mass + any spell combo is literally unavoidable and has been an effective method to fucking juke people hard after their rolls since ds2
>dont even get me started on soul stream and obscuring ring
>magic will probably get buffed because of mongoloids conplaining they cant flippy havels at sl 60
>people still complain that it takes "too much of an investment in stats" when you can get everything you need at sl 80 and then still have 40 levels to throw into weaponry if you still need it for some fucking reason, or end/more hp

Get fucking good seriously
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>>335809460
I fucking suck at pvp and i got 12 tongues within an hour and a half. I won maybe 1/4th of invasions. What kind of build are you using? When you see 2-3 people are you just charging in? Bait them out, have patience. Also, where arevyou invading? I recommend Grad Cathedral, there are a lot of long range enemies for cover and a lot of lesser traps to use to your advantage. I also reccommend using a rapier or spear for solo duels, and an UGS or anything with wide swings for groups. Twin weapons or weapons with spin slash weapon skills are amazing for both solo duels and ganks.
Protip: if a blueberry shows up, target them above all else, they give you two tongues.
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>>335837210
he did in my game ;-;
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>>335815995
Upgrades count as marks on your character account. It doesn't matter what you do with the weapon.
You can store it, leave it, sell it - nothing matters, the mark is there.
I recommend to keep your normal weapons to +4, twinkling to +2 and +2 for boss soul weapons as well.

The scale goes +2 -2 more or less.
Meaning, if you have a +2 weapon, you can pair with +0 upgraded weapon players. As soon as you go +3, you can not pair with +0, only +1 and up.
Special weapons count differently, since they go only to +5. Meaning a +1 special is the same as +2 normal.

Also, if that wasn't enough, they also mark how many upgraded weapons you have total. Someone upgraded a bunch of weapons to +3 and it fucked the entire matchmaking for him. So pick a weapon or two you like and stick to around +2 - +4 (special)
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>>335836719
>be me
>be this faggot
>>335836617
>invade for days
>9/10 watch host dying to mobs
>sometimes decide to stick around and fight off other invaders
>usually have host stupidly rush me while mobs still around
>sometimes try to get ganked, rarely works here
>sometimes have great fights

MORE OF YOU NEED TO GO HERE AND STOP BEING FAGS. SPREAD THE WORD
>
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who the hell decided on the NPC quest progression in this game? I swear, I missed fucking EVERYONE in this game except Yuria and Anri, and after looking up the quest progression triggers, I'm not surprised. This is some grade-A counterintuitive BULLSHIT
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>>335809460
>If there's just the host, sure, I'll be a little fair.
No don't be fair, you're not getting paid to be fair.
You're going to face some new level ganking if you keep that shit up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7SAF-So9Pc
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>>335830521
dragon land NG++++++

>get invaded
>we dance around for a bit
>BDM get summond in for me
>invader runs and hides in the area with all the giant deformed dragon guys
>pop a seed
>"invader is ded"
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>>335837524
It's pretty retarded, desu senpai.
Some of the quests even require you to go back to previous done areas and search every fuckingwhere for changes or summon signs.

Thank god we had the gooks beta test for us, eh?
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>>335837314
I either agree or have no opinion about most of the post, but homing soul mass? Seriously?

Most of the time you roll towards the user to fire it off harmlessly and end up at melee range, they don't know what the fuck to do next
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>>335837616
is there a place to get more seeds? only ever found 1
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>>335837643
>only way to find Siegward is to go back to an area that you've already 100% cleared and search around on the off-chance that an NPC will have randomly arrived
why this?
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>>335837703
You get a new seed at the Giant Tree for every invader you banish.

Multiple invaders do not count toward more seeds. You only get one per session. You can hoard them.
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>>335837703
cheat engine :^)
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>>335837786
i beat faggots all the time, i've only ever had one. what gives?
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>>335837784
I actually even missed Patches after going into the tower. I heard the weird sound of the metal door closing, but didn't know what it was at the time.
When I spotted the (impossible) loot on the coffin below on my way down, I totally missed him. Not to mention he's hidden himself away pretty well in the shrine after.
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>>335837649
>cast soulmass
>run towards the enemy at an angle so it doesnt fire
>bait them into a roll and turn into them
>use soul greatsword or soul spear to hit them as they get up

It works 90% of the time
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>>335837874
Host only, afaik. Not as helper phantom, or invader.
Once they are dead, and you warp back home to shrine, check the tree.
May also only work on reds. Not sure.
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>>335837874
sometimes i have to kill 2/3 to get one and i dont thing invasion soap stones work.
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>>335826240
Late as fuck but invading as a grapist actually matches you to hosts that have more people summoned
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>>335837616
Those giant chain axe dragons really are assholes. The giant axe ones, whatever, but the chain ones just do obnoxious damage considering their attack range and speed. They're literally more difficult than over half of the bosses in the game.
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>Stormruler doesn't do bonus damage to any giants besides Yhorm
fucking why??????
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>>335838000
I personally wait for the start of that tingling sound before I roll so they'll be close enough to finish the dodge at their back, or simply not roll and run a circle around them if I see them trying to delay the cast like you described

I did fall for it like a bitch the first time, tho
>>
Don't even bother criticising this game
any flaw will be replied to with get gud bro
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>>335838104
They are. The entire Ancient Wyvern fight is so fucking awful it makes me cringe every time I have to speed run its ass.
Who the fuck thought that was a good boss fight? They actually managed to make a worse boss fight than Yhorm.
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>>335838259
I thought overcoming the games inherent flaws were part of the whole "Git gud, faggot" meme?
But, I agree with you - this game has way to many fans sucking From's balls.
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>>335838391
There are definitely trolls in the mix there too. There's no telling the ratio of players who think you should learn to play versus the amount of people who will just post the 'git gud' meme just for the sake of posting it.
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>>335838391
Still being able to coop and invade without much of an issue in DaS and DaS2 makes me glad, shows I'm not the only one who didn't fall for the DaS3 meme

>post yfw
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If I join up with Londor, and usurp the Flame, am I making the wrong decision? Am I making everything worse?
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>>335838641
Shit's fucked anyway, go for whatever feels less shitty
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>>335838391
>>335838483
The git gud thing came from initial jokes about people saying the Demons being waaaaaay too difficult by players who had just began to play, it was purely used to rub salt in the wounds of people who didn't adapt well. It didn't become the really shit meme thing until Das1 when both Xbox and PC players latched on to it and started applying it to PvP like it was a fighting game.
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>>335809460
MOTHERFUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
ASDASDMAIGANOUGNASOFUNASFUNAOSFDUN
FFFFFUCKING
RED
EYED
PIECE OF SHIT SWORDSMAN AFTER THE DANCER
I HAD LESS TROUBLE WITH THE DANCER THAN THESE FUCKING SKELETONS HOLY SHIT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>335836507
Didn't sit his ass in the throne like he was supposed to.
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>>335839104
Just pick up a 2H weapon and chain stun them.
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>>335838967
well, Aldrich and Ocerios are pretty evil. linking the flame seems like a pretty fucked up organization this cycle
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>>335839104
ps: I'm invading as red sunbro and I don't get too many gank squads, the past few days I had maybe ~10 like that, where it wasn't 1v1
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>>335838973
Anon, I know you're buttblasted, but git gud became a meme in fucking cowadoody
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Has anyone here tried the Drang weapons much?

I've been using the Hammers quite a bit, but in PvP it seems like nobody sits still long enough to hit them with anything but the rolling L1, and maybe a followup if I'm lucky. Was thinking of trying out the spears if they fare any better.
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>>335839202
Fuck you Anon, don't make me come over there and fondle your balls.
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>>335839316
Fucking faggots get off my vidyer
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I think that /v/ can all agree that Siegward is the best NPC in the series
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You know, I've invaded a fair bunch and I've been invaded a fair bunch.

I've been running around with an ember on and dry fingers for a while now, and there's a class of shitters that keep invading me.

The type that will wait until you're surrounded by sanic tier enemies, and then backstab you once you're about halfway down on health. Afterwards they do a smug ass emote like they kicked my ass something fierce.

Save that for when you kill a host and three ganktard phantoms.

I've had one fucker come in and I handed his ass on a plate twice now, I didn't even heal while the guy chugged estus like it was going out of style. And then the shitter catches me surounded by 300 skeletons and goes in for the kill, followed by a smug ass emote. You sure showed me champ. Also yes I'm salty, but please don't be THAT guy when invading /v/.
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>>335839316
Keep talking like that and you gonna get some toes sucked you little faggot.
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>>335839253
Only good dual wielding weapon in PVP is Gotthard
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>>335809460
Holy shit, stop being such a massive idiot!
If theres more people than you can hanld in the host world, you can:
>Go back to your own world and invade someone else
>run to the enemies around and have their help
>sneak on the host
>GIT GUD and fucking kill everyone

Why is /v/ such faggots about this?
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>make new char
>level 20, no weapon upgrades
>still no forresthunter invasions
>>
Holy fuck, an invasion where the host didn't have phantoms with him.
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>>335839140
BUT STILLLLLL
It has really high damage and speed
a huge lunging attack
holy motherfucking shit
I guess I always hid behind a shield too much
gotta git gudder rolling
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mfw people still dont know how to properly invade and take care of groups
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>>335810137
Hi there!

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Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>335823757
Then just kill 500.

Also rusty coin.
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>>335811037
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>335811262
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>335839632
Sad thing is, this shit also happened at launch in DaS2 (in the belfry areas because broken orb bullshit). You would find people playing with friends through the game for the first time and get in a pretty shitty position until reinforcement grey spirits arrived

DaS3 people doesn't even necessarily play through with their friends. It's easy to spot when a ganksquad is actually organized, but not the common place scenario. They just begin popping phantoms out of the ground like they're fucking mushrooms and have them clear the game in their stead. How is that even remotely fun?

Even worse, do the summoned phantoms have no sense of fucking dignity? I've had people summon me in Drangleic castle's first bonfire in 2, have me deal with dark spirits, then crystal'd me back home when I was done saving their sorry ass. Ever since then, if I notice I've been panic summoned to fend off an invader, I just sit by and watch or crystal out myself
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>Dark Souls
best world design/coherence
best NPCs
best heavy armor and magic
>Dark Souls 2
best online connectivity
best weapon/build variety
best best pvp balance
>Dark Souls 3
best individual level design
best bosses
best enemy encounters
>Bloodborne
best setting and lore
best combat mechanics
best fashion
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>>335840095

There's some faggot named Slayertronic or something like that camping the Halfway Fortress and Crucifixion Woods with two of his butt-buddies.
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>>335840153
>>Dark Souls 2
You forgot to add power stancing to it
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Is it even possible to be darkmooned with a lvl 125 +10 character?

BRING BACK SIN AND THE BLUE EYE ORB FROM, GOD DAMN IT!
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>>335840268
I had folded powerstancing under "weapon/build variety"
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>>335840153
>best fashion
>everything is a trench-coat and fedora
no
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>>335840479
spicy memes
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>>335839628
Too low level. Forest is about 35-45
Christ dude, most at 20 is still in lothric
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LOL MY LAST INVASION.
>invade at dragon mausoleum
>has a goldfag
>bit them into mobs a bit, use obscure ring to take potshots with arrows
>get some hits bit eventually they pop a seed
>dodge around clunky enemies
>lure them all the way from the bonfire slowly bit my bit back past the second bonefire outside the Storm king
>on my last estus
>go up ladder where Havel is
>they taunt me from bottom of ladder
>silvercat ring
>fall attack phantom, one shot with BKGAxe
>be smug as fuck
>>
reply to this post if you found Yorshka without a guide
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>>335840574
you know its true its easily the worst fashion in the series.
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>>335840287
No. Upgrading any weapon to maximum is retarded, as most players will not find slabs, or go look for some. Most are even unaware of Dark Firelink to begin with.
Never go full upgrade. It fucks with the matchmaking
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>>335840789
no
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>find a bro
>be the same level and go to an area where most people don't invade.
>guy 1 fingers
>guy 2 invades
>guy 1 jumps off cliff
>get tongues within 20 minutes

Find a flaw.
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how big of a difference does upgrading catalysts make?
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>>335811896

>tripfag
>head-canon
>"quality posts"

how much of a faggot can you be?
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>>335840920
A lot.
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>>335840847
you can get slabs without finding Dark Firelink
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>>335841018
No shit, sherlock. Wasn't the point I was making
>>
Rosarias are the easiest players to get rid of, pop one of the many seeds then branch it up
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>>335840905
You can get banned for it, says it on the agreement you have to pick Okay to just to start the game up
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So when are they going to fix that retarded bug where you drop your souls if you die when invading?
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>>335820078
>Finally invade a solo host after hundreds of gank squads
>Host looks like your typical souls beginner
>Decide to go easy on him since hasn't summoned any phantoms
>Let him finish off the enemy/mob he's fighting
>Wave to him once he's finished
>Host has disconnected
FUCK THIS FROM NOW ON I'LL BE SNATCHING EVERY MOTHER FUCKER BIRTHDAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND WITH NO MERCY
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>>335841352
speaking from experience, just rush them unless they're immediately friendly to you. you're there to fuck up there game anyway and present a challenge. you know that if they had a phantom they'd gank you anyway.
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>>335841352
should have been doing that from the start desu senpai
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>>335835425
He wont attack unless you get to close to him. I dont know why Leonard is not there.
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>wear darkmoon'
>never get summoned'

>wear WoB'
>never get help when invaded

I've given up on getting proofs, and the one time a sentinel came to help he left immediately.
The only good pvp I get is when I wait for invaders after Pontiff. Invading myself gets me ganked and ever using red-soapstone ends up like that sometimes.
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>>335841352
>get invaded
>Guy is shit and I and toying with him
>Backs up and separation crystals home like a bitch
Take it like a man you fuccboi.
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>>335809460
>I'll be a little fair
Here's your problem. Show no mercy. Be a total asshole. You're a red phantom, act like one.
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>>335841835
Yeah, red soapstone gankers are the scummiest of scum.
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>>335824207
>Black crystals out
>Invade someone after roughly 10 seconds of searching

DAMN IM SO MAD THAT YOU USED A SEED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
HELP

I KEEP FIGHTING PEOPLE WITH STRAIGHT SWORDS AND THEY

DONT

STOP

SWINGING

THEY JUST KEEP SWINGING WITH NO BACKSWING OR COOLDOWN

THEY JUST DONT STOP

I CANT POISE THROUGH IT BECAUSE POISE DOESNT EXIST
>>
what's the current situation with sorcery vs miracles vs pyromancy?
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>>335842141
welcome to the meta, enjoy :^)
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>>335842007
I also hate estus chuggers
I never drink unless the other one does it too
sadly, 80-90% drinks
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>>335842141
After the second hit you have completely free action.

Parry if they're mashing, enjoy free kills
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>>335841352
>Some people just disconnect the second you invade
Why even bother going online then you worthless degenerates?
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i've been sittong at level 80 and a million souls for a while now. should i lvl up or is the meta still around this soul level?
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>>335842007
Yup. I don't even get upset when I invade someone and they have a phantom or two, even though I never almost win. But the second time I was summoned surrounded I just stopped trying with red-soapstone.

>>335842141
Parry.
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>The new meta is spam R1
>But you can only get in 2 hits
>Parry
>Hornet ring is suddenly the most valuable pvp ring
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>>335842141
>R1 mashing
>viable

HAH
>>
When are they going to buff straight swords? They're completely unusable right now.
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>>335809460
If a weapon has say 100 physical damage, and then another weapons has 100 physical damage and 100 dark damage, will that second weapon's 2 damage types stack? Like is it twice as powerful as the weapon with only 100 physical damage, or does it only use the single type of damage which be most effective against a specific enemy?
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>>335810337
I had cooping with a friend and a darkmoon still showed up when we got invaded.
>>
PvP in this game feels pretty bad.
It's practically impossible to punish anyone for anything, besides parrying, which punishes people for attacking at all and can result in an instant OHKO.
It's not very fun, even disregarding gank squads and dumb shit like that.
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>>335836275
There's a cracked online patch.
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>>335843180
The damages both go through separate defences, but yes a weapon with both 100 physical and 100 dark will do more damage then a weapon with only 100 physical.


Buffing your weapon always makes it stronger, even if the enemy would resistant the bonus damage.
>>
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>>335843223
I love this sword it makes people cry
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>>335809460
Get Gud
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>>335843223
I've pretty much just said fuck it to actual PvP, and just invade in Farron Keep low level with a greatbow and obscuring ring and sometimes false ring with dark armor.
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>>335842987
>mfw Parrying Dagger
I was amazed at how easy it makes parrying.
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>>335843450
>greatsword with the spear weapon art
wut
>>
>>335843223
Just don't take the pvp seriously and try to have fun with it like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOUNx387aM

Only a complete fool would take this game's pvp seriously.
>>
>>335842987
>Hornet ring is suddenly the most valuable pvp ring
Hornet Ring has always been a valuable ring in PvP.
>>
>>335843223

It's the early DS2 meta.

Can you oneshot your opponent? It's viable.

If you can't, it's trash because they will just dodge away 5 times and heal/summon/etc.

Right now the easiest way to get tongues is get Soul Stream on a max-int hero and just snipe the hosts of Fight Clubs using the Obscuring Ring.

It's scummy but From should maybe not make PvP a complete chore otherwise.
>>
>>335843617
but havel's greatshield is only fun because it's actually broken
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>>335843607
its the best
>>
>>335843694
Are you implying you expect it to be fixed?
>>
>>335843617
>not a single person knows how to get to the behind

every single time
>>
>>335843041
which (u)greatsword is that?
>>
>>335843450
looks like Elendil
>>
offhand parrying dagger or instant parry caestus, which do you think is stronger?
>>
>>335844092
It's preference mostly I think. I prefer the dagger.
>>
>>335843932
yes? it's actually ridiculous
i'd like for it to stay effective but in its current state it's way too annoying
just make kicks do more stamina damage honestly
or give us back guard break

>>335844092
caestus is better for reaction, parrying dagger is better for prediction
i think caestus ends up being better because you can spam it during a straight sword's r1r1 combo to parry them guaranteed
>>
>>335809460
In simple english, how the fuck does the rosarias fingers covenant work.
I use it all the time and nothing ever happens.
>>
>>335843301
What do you think i meant when i said "play with other pirates online" anon?

It's incompatible with legits, so the playerbase is small.
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>invade in the dungeon
>host runs back up to where alva is summoned
>4 (FOUR) fucking blues are summoned at the same time, literally watching the fucking phantoms rise up back to back

how is this possible?
>>
>>335813295

AHHHHHHHHH CRINGE
>>
I feel you Bro, it's never ever a 1 on 1 fight. They always have at least one phantom with them
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>>335843450
>That weapon art
I'm sorry I ever doubted you Astora Greatsword
>>
>>335844052
Looks like Astora Greatsword
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>>335817669
theres no reason not to equip it, it's the only covenant with "benefits"
>>
So what do you guys do while waiting for you red eyes to find a place to invade?
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>>335845056
>>335845056
>>335845056

THREAD. SEE HERE.

>>335840715
>>335840715

>>335837485
>>335837485
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>>335843041
>no parry

so a shitter vs a shitter?

whats this clip suppose to prove?
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>>335845740
you dont even NEED parry to take care of R1 mashing
>>
>>335837485
>>335845654
I literally never see the host die to mobs, they are usually sitting back behind a squad of 3 hitting mobs with sorcery.
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>be using Lothric Knight Sword and a Rapier
>confused as to why Rapier isn't doing more backstab damage
>LKS has the same fucking critical multiplier
holy butts
>>
>>335845925
THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT MAKES THIS PLACE SPECIAL. NOW GET GOING. LVL 80 IS A HOTSPOT FOR ME
>>
>>335836596
I started farming the Darkwraith under Lothric Wall on my deprived. Just kill the guy who gives you the lift key, and away you go. ~2500 souls per run, which should take you under a minute.
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>>335843180
the non-physical damages are reduced more harshly than physical, it seems, so between a sword that does 200 physical, and a sword that does 120+120fire, the physical probably does more
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>>335844913

I saw 3 blues come into the world just as I was finishing off the host. It was so fucking unreal.
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>>335809460
the covenant items are not even worth it to go through this senseless pain, just throw the red orb away
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>>335842007
>>335841835
>>
>>335811413
Some people want to do insane amounts of shit in a game that no normal person would. Those trophy's are for them to have. You are not required to get them, if you don't want to do those things.
>>
>>335846256
that's because 120phys+120fire is reduced twice, by phys+fire resistance
>>
Im a noob and this is my first souls game so i usually play with my bud. 95% of the time me and him manage to beat the invaders, except this one time this guy came in with a HUGE fucking sword i had never seen before that took off 95% of my health with one hit.
>>
>roll into a vase
>get frostbite

nice game soulsbabs
>>
>>335847678
That's completely fine, going through the game and actually progressing with a friend isn't a problem. It's when you get three people there and sit around a bonfire waiting for invaders when it becomes shitty.
>>
>>335847749
cool
>>
So dancers swords are apparently shit in PvP, But they gotta be good in PvE right? Sure there's alot of split damage but over 300 overall damage cant be that bad right?
>>
>>335834905
>>335833323
apparently it was patched

>The range of the matching level of the Blade of the Darkmoon and the Blue Sentinels have been adjusted.
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>>335809460
Is that a behlit?
>>
>>335847791


i agree thats dumb
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>>335809460
Dude. You can win tongues by being summoned. Just do duels, I won more than one hundred tongues this way
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>>335815302
they value themselves less than others, so when given the option to waste someone else's time for the cost of their own, they see it as a net gain.
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>tears of denial
>prevents death once
>duration is infinite until you take fatal damage or warp to a bonfire
>only requires 15 faith to use and only uses up 2 attunement slots
>mfw
This miracle alone has greatly improved my invasion win rate, it's amazing
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>>335848468
>It's Reusable
It's suck a godsend in general sometimes.
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>>335829229
>fellow Way of the Blue master race

Respect. God fucking dammit do I love it when I throw Blue faggots to the wolves and they get their ass kicked -- then turn around and kill the cocky Red faggot myself.

Meanwhile the Purple faggots are scumsuckers that just get shit on by anyone and everyone
>>
>>335810137
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>invade in Anal Rodeo
>host and one sunbro
>host actually stands by as sunbro and I duel
>neither of us drinks

I almost had to check to make sure I didn't boot up DaS1 by mistake.
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Is it true if you upgrade a weapon to +5 or +10 you're stuck in that weapon memory bracket forever?
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>>335850461
it goes -/+ 2
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