>playing Civ V
>on one continent with Ottomans, Austria and Carthage
>playing for cultural victory, never ever wage war, everyone is friendly with me
>there's war among other civs but i dont interfere
>just now, Carthage declares war on me for no reason
>ok.jpg
>1 turn later
>ottomans and austria declare war on me
what the hell /v/? what is this game all about. im just chilling out and 3 civs declare war on me. what is this bullshit
>>335793624
That's what Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan said.
>>335793624
They're all jealous of your superior culture. That or you own a plot of land they really, really want.
>>335793624
From their point of view you were evil.
Makes sense, if you're about to win.
>>335793624
Maybe if you stopped forcing your blue jeans and pop music on them
>Austria
fuck that fat bitch
>>335793624
The AI has predictable reactions to try and emulate what actual people playing the game might do. Usually if someone is obviously ahead in some way in most games other players will band together to take them out so one of them has a shot.
You have to think of CIV more like a board game with other people than how actual countries might act.
>>335793624
the ai isn't retarded (well, compared to bts it kind of is), if they see you're getting close to victory they'll start to dislike you more. they're trying to win too, after all. attacking them with tourism is still attacking them.
>>335794076
>playing must have all units destroyed to eliminate
>austria got one warrior out on a ship right before I took them over
>1,000 years later
>she's still at war with me voting against my proposals
I will never play eliminate all units again
>>335794040
this
>>335793624
>your country has it's own ways and traditions
>suddenly everyone is wearing full on saudi arabia burkas
Wouldn't you be pissed at Saudi Arabia for influencing your country like that?
>>335794162
>>335794101
But I'm not that far into the game yet. I'm not even influental with any civ and we havent even discovered the second continent yet
>>335794816
Sometimes civs will go after you because they simply consider you defenseless. If you military advisor is shitting himself that means the AI fancies itself stronger than you. Unfortunately this is always the case because smart players don't need big armies and the AI only seems to weigh brute military numbers.
>>335794816
>>335795325
to be fair the ai also looks at WHAT units you have, not just how many
upgrading a few units is a good way to prevent the ai from declaring war on you
>meet greece turn 30
>exchange embassies so he won't harass me every 2 turns for an embassy
>check his opinion of me
>they covet your lands
>use random personalities
>rome and greece still spams as many cities as possible
>maya still invades me with missionaries
>kamehameha still denounces zulus
>zulus still take kamehamehas capital
>>335795796
This. I'm guessing you completely gave up on even having a military. Keep one of the most advanced units you have in each of your cities, and build a couple extras to deal with barbarians/keep an eye on your opponents/ let the other civs know you're not total bitch status.
>>335796158
CONSTANTINOPLE IS GREEK
>>335796407
Is Machu greek too?
> be a tiny cultural civ sitting on some luxuries, effectively a city state
>nearby war-prone civs looking for ways to expand and gain an edge against their opponents see a tasty little defenseless acquisition
i swear some of the civ players who post on here are like theyve never picked up a history book.
>>335796395
might i add that mounted units are pretty nice for keeping barbs in check
Daily reminder that being a warmonger solves all problems in Civ 5
>playing with friend
>be venice
>have trade routes fucking everywhere
>secretly give him half the money which is a fuckton, probably more than what every other peasant countries have together
>he proceeds to systematically eradicate the other countries one by one with his newfound military budget
>still win because he has huge unrest/unhappy population and couldn't manage all the countries he conquered
I wish the AI was actually competent.
I don't like playing on high difficulties because they just have twice as many hammers and science and it's not fun playing catch up for half the game, but playing on prince or even king is shit because they build retarded things like caravanasseries and terracota, or settle in retarded places so they miss out on natural wonders or shit.
>>335796920
Except that everyone hates me because Assyria was dick to me in the Ancient Era
>>335796920
>spawn near alexander
>chariot rush him so I don't have to deal with his shit
>the rest of the game is spent with the AI denouncing me and bullying me
>>335797068
so go warmonger them as well
you dont halfass warmongery
When you hit the modern era civ absolutely, always, every time, descends into an absolute fuck fest with everybody at war with everybody, and then the nukes start flying.
>>335793624
They are trying to beat you thats to whole point. If you are too strong ai usually team ups or if you are weak strong ai will start war.
>>335796942
his fault for not razing effectively
>>335796815
Early in the game, yes. But half the time I play, I forget to replace them when they become obsolete, and that one asshole barbarian infantry fucks up a bunch of my tiles
>tfw trying to play multiplayer with friends and the game keeps lagging and crashing
Are there any fixes for this?
>>335793624
Tell that to Poland when they got double teamed by the Germans and Russians
Don't bitch here like its your blog. Speak softly but carry a big stick
>>335797141
Wow try not playing a warmonger next time. Computer almost never gets nukes even when I skip the treaty, and they're never aimed at me
Maybe you shouldn't play bad games?
>>335794326
never got the point of that mechanic. Once your last city is gone and you don't have any settlers left, what's the point? You'll never rebuild, highly unlikely you'll ever conquer a city and make a comeback. Just a game of attrition with your remaining units
>>335797608
Is Endless Legend good? I've only played Civ 3,4,5 and am looking for something different.
>>335793624
and that right there is why civ V is shit. I don't want boardgame simulator. I want it to be a country simulator. I can understand aggressive rulers attacking peaceful ai when it wants more land. That happens all the time. But this game just turns into a denouncing clusterfuck. Also nukes suck dick
>>335797723
It's neat but it has some flaws.
>>335797608
>endless legend and civ 4 same lvl as alpha centauri
opinion discarded
Just play paradox instead of this arcade with pseudohistorical flavour. I mean honestly you are playing game called civilization when you are on a single continent with different nations from different eras and regions who declare a war on you over nothing. Cheesy fucking shite.
>>335797654
I guess the theory is that the leader may have escaped with that unit
>>335796942
>playing with a bunch of friends
>be Venice on earth map
>sitting comfy on south America
>become so rich that I secretly fund wars on both sides
>rest of the world goes to shit while I turtle for easy win
>>335798096
Yea, play a good game like EU4. That way you can paint a predetermined map of europe your favourite colour by spending papers, birds and swords to make your painting skills even better. Don't forget your womyn in history™ DLC to make your historically accurate invasion french invasion of ireland that much more historically accurate and remember: realism is not a meaningful argument t. wiz.
>>335796951
There's AI mods that has them make better decisions. They still can't wage war that we'll but it's a huge improvement
>>335798096
this
Crusader Kings 2 is the superior game
>>335798768
Does it make them go libraries > national college > workshops > universities > factories > public schools > research labs?
>>335798609
You just had to pick the worst paradox game, huh? Mana bullshit is cheesy too but even that is a lot more believable than entirety of civilization. At least nations are in general locations of where they are supposed to be.
>>335798819
>every dlc makes the game less about the crusades
>you can either play as an already established character and be able to start blobbing right away or a one county count and read a book or something while you play on speed 5 and wait 5 years for your money to tick up enough to pay for a claim + mercenaries or a new building
>>335798870
Something like that yes
>>335799031
What the fuck are you on about m8? Civ is an entirely different game to EU. Stop trying to compare apples and oranges and go waggle you're willy in gsg or start you're own thread on /v/ and stop trying to shit up other ones.
>>335799061
>every dlc makes the game less about the crusades
What. Are you implying that this game is bad because it's not entirely about things in it's title? Even so crusades are huge part of christian and muslim religions, and religions are huge part of the game.
>that second part
Git gud senpai. What is intrigues, what is eugenics, what is politics. Playing as some duke/count is very viable. Blobbing in ck2 is almost non-existant, if you start blobbing too fast without understanding and planning every little thing your whole realm will fall apart in rebellions and your dynasty will probably suffer too.
>>335799192
Of course it's entirely different game. But OP was perplexed about declaring war for no reason and that aspect, while still not perfect, is much more polished in many paradox games. You know why war has been declared, if you are careful and take care of claims and relations (or whatever else is present in this particular paradox game) you won't even have huge wars declared on you and even if you lose small wars you lose some province or two which isn't very important and which you can always take back later.
>>335799925
This is a civ thread m8, if you want to shitpost go here >>>/vg/gsg
fuck this whore
>>335793624
>AI bitches that my army is not big enough
>Bitches when my army is bigger than his
>Builds cities next to mine and complains about having troops so close to his territory
>Wants free ressources
>Wants me to declare war on one the civs that isnt a total bitch
>Complains even more
And that is usually the point where i say fuck it and just burn all his cities down
>>335797723
>Combat takes for-fucking-ever
>You have to expand at sanic speed and can never stop expanding or you're fucked
>Upgrading your units is weird (But I guess it's cool for people who really like customizing)
>can't research what you want, there's only so much time to get shit done and only certain techs are useful
>AI will slaughter your army if they ever leave your territory and then get butthurt if you do it to them
It's great for some people, but it wore thin quick with me. Cultists are easy mode.
>>335800119
>Hey bro we're cool right well you see I spent all my money on pikemen to kill 1 barbarian camp so can you give me a small loan of 1 million gold
>no
>Fuck you asshole DENOUNCE DENOUNCE
>friend can you denounce this person for me
>they're both my friends
There's no winning this is there?
>>335799615
>mfw playing as king of Finland.
>Give counties and duchies to all 7 children.
>When the Heir takes over all of them plot against me.
>Fight different rebellions from various family members over the next 10 years.
I executed each cunt I captured until I was the only one left alive with all the titles in all of Finland. I doled em out to new loyal servents who then rebellions because "muh tyrant"
>>335797723
My fact on endless legend:
I like that every civ plays almost entirely different.
I like the concept of the winter season that gimps all you're yields.
The quests were really varied too, but the combat was pretty bad and not being able to stop naval embarked shit was annoying.
I also like how you expand the cities with boroughs, and how you claim the entire region where you settle so alexander doesn't plop a city 4 tiles away from you then start coveting your lands.
Also the way the luxury and strategic resources work is much better than civ imo.
The map was visually pretty, but I don't like how you had to have the anomalies in your city limits to work them, which often meant building over the top of them so you don't get to see them which kind of defeats the point of them imo.
>>335793624
You're looking at it wrong. This isn't a real world simulator, the AI is trying to win the game. It just figured that taking you out would benefit it towards that goal.
>want to go to war with william
>don't want to get warmonger penalties
>make defensive pact with boudicca
>give william all my shit to go to war with boudicca
>get all my shit back immediatley
>now fighting a justified war with william
Fuck Netherlands
>>335797608
>no naval forces of any kind
>retarded battle system
>most victory conditions are "generate X number of resource"
>races so specialised that once you learn to play them there is little to no room for experimentation with playstyles
>the worst possible implementation of wonders
>spying is useless except for designated spying race
I'm not saying that I hate Endless Legend, it's a fun little game, but it has a long way to go before it can rival Civ. I hope Frenchies deliver something cool with ES2.
>playing as random civ
>get Austria
>random planet
>it's an 80% sea episode
>make sea trade routes. all of them.
>meet America
>meet China
>Meet Zulu
>fuck me war is imminent
>can't get any land because of the ocean
>research all techs and build all wonders that give me trade routes
>become rich. I'm talking 20,000 gold and 100 gpt
>buy what city states that will expand my empire most in my favor
>manage to survive to late game
>research and build everything that gets me the most delegates in world congress
>they all declare war on me when I adopt freedom
>even America
>enact standing army tax
>become the only one who can afford a military and rape them
>it's a you have no strategic resources episode
>>335800586
does finland even have 7 counties in the game
I understand that it was in iron age until the 16th century but the division is still pretty retarded
>>335800170
>mfw building megacity one as cultists
>getting 4k influence per turn
>loadsa money
>converted villages constantly generating units
>everyone is terrified of me
Cultists are god tier
Can I turn off every winning conditions so that the AI can just not go around backstabbing everyone because they want to win themselves?
Alternatively, is there any mods that do this? I'm just trying to see what hilarity would ensue in a world with truly solid groups that don't get disbanded because they expanded into your territory and they think you are at fault.
>>335802078
>have the most land by far in the game
>1 tile of iron
>no oil
>1 coal
>no aluminum
>no uranium
>>335802431
Also,
>razing so many cities you have enough science stockpiles to research absolutely anything
>>335804195
>AI has a city on a tiny island that mysteriously has 5 tiles of uranium and aluminum each
