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Planetside 2 just added a base construction mechanic with RT
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Planetside 2 just added a base construction mechanic with RTS-esque resource gathering meta.

Basically you can use these new vehicles to collect resources that spawn around in the wild, and deploy them using those resources to build up bases with walls, turrets, bunkers, and stuff like that. If you want your base to be a serious objective, you can build a HIVE generator which very slowly generates "victory points" that if left unchecked could allow your team to "lock down" and win the continent.

It's pretty fun in practice, building an FOB somewhere and keeping it operational with your team. Pardon my shilling.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WJBrUEMYIk
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>>335793430
>>335793430y>>335793430
Yep, HUGE game changer, should be fun as fuck. Heard gr8 things about it so far
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Fucking really? They've been promising that for fucking years or something, right?
Damn, I thought it was dead.
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>>335793430
Too bad the game is still shit on every other level. Maybe in 5 years it'll finally be playable.
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>>335793430
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>>335793870
Eyyup. Believe me, I would post screenshots right now if I remembered to take them.

Her'es another video I found.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmDRgHNf_jM
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I joined Vanu because the rockets are pretty. No bully.
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Dead game.
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Isn't there a PS4 port? So why doesn't the PC have gamepad support? Huh?
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>>335794237
Why the fuck would you want to use a gamepad in Planetside 2?
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Too bad the actual game play is horrible.
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>>335794276
Consoletards gonna contard.
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>>335794030
Shooting mechanics are fine, and there's a lot of room to strategize and work a playstyle, its the lag and blueberries (members of the community who don't squad, don't mic, and just singlemindedly attack objectives) that make it a slog. You HAVE to get involved in vehicle combat, even if you plan to do infantry things, because if you are, its going to be as part of a combined arms squad. Most people go into PS2 expecting a shooter. Its not, its more MMO.
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Im still mad that the game wont run on my computer due to compatibility...
I have an i5 with a gtx 750ti which is not great but I could run this game in my old core 2 with a 650...
It does not support x64
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>>335794328
When was the last time you upgraded? It runs about as well as arma, and that's understandable.
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>>335794328
>you literally have to have x64 to play because it barely runs on x32
apply yourself
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>>335794305
>Shooting mechanics are fine
tbH I should just stop reading here, lmao.
>and there's a lot of room to strategize
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH, good joke!
>and work a playstyle
Oh yes, like the "kill everything in one shot" playstyle, or the "get killed in one shot" playstyle. OK kid.
>PS2 expecting a shooter. Its not
You're a riot mate, a real riot.
> its more MMO.
Here's your (You) anyway, it shows that you tried.
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>>335794276
I could see it for driving, if you were so inclined.
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>>335794438
Lel, no it doesn't. Not even in your wildest dreams. Fuck off, shill.
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Sounds neat but the gunplay and environments in PS2 are not satisfying.

The whole thing is too sterile.
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>>335793430

Asides from the fact you can find out there's only 3k players concurrent across ALL servers, I've heard from one quick glance on reddit not only has a shit ton of stuff actually regressed/broken and weren't fixed in the test environment ("because we ran out of time" - fucking what?), but the hard pop cap mechanic they implemented means a lot of players wind up stuck in VR, and simply refuse to change faction, which doesn't help a lot either though it does fragment clans.
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>>335794305
>its more MMO
There is nothing MMO about it. You just turn up at one area, shoot everyone till you capture and move onto the next.
The shooting is also pretty shit for a shooter and the game has no progression because there is very little improvement from buying guns.
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>>335793430
Oh they finally got around to adding stuff from the first one? Good on them, maybe they'll eventually add the 30 or so vehicles they left out as well.
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>>335794463
The shooting mechanics are fine though. It has a kinesthetic sense that is a direct upgrade from 1. its much easier to move around, look around, and it feels better doing it in a physics sort of way.

As for strategizing, lay of the land is incredibly important. Some places are utterly inaccessible from the ground, while others are covered in AA guns. There's a lot of strategy at the higher level of play especially when you get tight knit battle bus or battle gal squads. My outfit does BB, and always runs full Grounders with one guy using a skep to hunt harassers, and everyone takes miniguns.

>>and work a playstyle
But that's the game's strength. Investing certs into high level buys is actually rewarding. Some unique weapons completely change the way you can attack certain units and bases. What happens is that people assume they can jack of all trades and still get things done. That's not how PL works.

PL2 is a good game.
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I've been on all yesterday. It's surprisingly the least buggy patch they've put out, which is unusual in that they typically shit the bed with these kinds of things. The game is... Fun? The base building adds a lot of depth to what used to be a very shallow shooter, so looking forward to playing more. Bases are pretty fucking hard to kill though, especially on Amerish.
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>>335795147

Can you refund certs now in PL2? Or are you fucked if you want to try something else?
That's the reason people would jack of trades.
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>>335793430

Welp time to reinstall
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>>335795147
>The shooting mechanics are fine though. It has a kinesthetic sense that is a direct upgrade from 1. its much easier to move around, look around, and it feels better doing it in a physics sort of way.
Shill/10. This time I'm not reading any further. At least try a little.
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>>335795105
Artillery was shit, and made PS1 suck dick. Honestly most of the vehicles in ps1 were superfluous, and didn't have any role on the battlefield. The one that I would love to see ported over is the vehicle carrying one though
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>>335795262
>>335795147

Answer me nigga

>Find out about this through org mail
>Org is only 50 concurrent players and it's 3AM to me

WELP, guess I'm mercing now.
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>>335794525
But it is. If anything, its more understandable. Arma plays like dick, AND runs like dick, and don't you tell me its the physics, because arma's "physics" are hilariously scripted.

>>335794890
>The shooting is also pretty shit for a shooter
It's more a game about combined ops, like arma. Nobody cares that arma's shooting feels awful and awkward at apex conditions, people care about getting tanks and jets involved and how that changes things gameplaywise.

>the game has no progression because there is very little improvement from buying guns
>Buying guns
Thats your fucking problems, silly, you don't buy a bunch of guns. Progression is in skills, deployables, and vehicle utilities. Infantry are INTENTIONALLY kept from having the sort of progression that would allow you to win 3v1s with guns because that would be fucking ridiculous. Insead, you get claymores, which might accomplish the same thing, unless he sees you coming at takes the right counter, but it doesn't turn you into a rambo ruining shit for everyone. It's reserved for vehicles, under a lot of specialization.
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>>335794276
Because it's comfy and I want to specialize in vehciles. Why do you redditfags have to go full autismo at the drop of a hat anytime someone mentions gamepads? They fucking got the game to work on the PS4. I should be able to plug in by Xbox controller and have at it.
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>>335795846
>>>/reddit/
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>>335795339
Lodestar? Good xp farming support. Also fuck you if you think the empire specific buggies weren't fun as fuck to drive around.
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>>335795262
No. Don't spend certs on stupid shit. All the stuff you want costs 1000, or eventually does, and the more you spend on something, the more efficient cert to effective upgrading gets. There are exceptions of course, like getting dumbfire+air lock on rockets, because utility over always lock on, but its the rule. It would be like playing a mage, and then randomly getting a bunch of STR. It's your fault for picking a shitty build with your certs, and you're free to start over for the cert bonus if thats your thing (its a terrible idea).

EVERYONE needs to get a repair tool and meditool, and EVERYONE benefits from mines and res grenades, because kills and repairs mean certs, so it feeds back into your suply. That's what you get first. Instead, everyone buys five different 250 cert guns for heavy assault and wonders why everyone else has cool shit they don't.
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Shame the game is already deader than doornails.
At least on briggs anyway
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>>335796316

>Playing since beta
>Everything changed and changed and changed
>Want to specialise into a role and don't care to bring literally everything after years of grinding
>Want refunds so I can actually deploy specialised and come back to re-train into another class entirely

Maybe spending certs on stupid shit wouldn't exist if you can experiment. People into combined arms also tend to be into playing as many different unique playstyles as possible, and this will just fuck them off.
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itt: how to spot who dropped the game because got btfo too much before before even finishing getting the welfare certs
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>>335796481
Pop has NEVER been a problem, unless you're talking a tuesday night at 4 am. They just end up locking off continents until the pop reaches acceptable levels.

>>335796543
That's like a 2/5 problem. Its there, but the exact nature of things hasn't changed enough to actually necessitate a refund. The one time it did, they refunded everyone's vehicle weapon certifications, which you should remember, so what more do you want?

>if you can experiment

I must be the only person alive who doesn't like that idea. You'd have everyone "experimenting" with double raven maxs or something, and you'd just end up screwing with the flow of the game. Short term refunds don't make sense in the progression of a game like PL thats so long term, and long term refunds don't either, because it trivializes everyone else's investment. It's not even like you can't do multiple roles. I happen to have a maxed out max suit with my engie class. Sufficient data down to the metric length of AOE blasts exists in-game to make informed decisions so you're not going in blind.
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>>335797158
more like vanu shitters; the thread.
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>>335793430
did they fix russians appearing on screen only after killing you
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>>335797158
Your brain thinks "I need a better gun" when you have C4, meditool, repair tool, various mines, av turret, Sunderer upgrades, grounder rockets, res grenades, and levels of resist shield to buy first just so you can do each class's job right. Most of this comes from the fact that almost all your AV and AA has to be purchased.
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when's the servers coming back up so I can update
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>>335798157

now (on PC)
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>>335795702
>Progression is in skills, deployables, and vehicle utilities. Infantry are INTENTIONALLY kept from having the sort of progression that would allow you to win 3v1s with guns because that would be fucking ridiculous.
The criticism is obviously that the gameplay is super shallow. That would be fine if the infantry gameplay was more than shooting, like abilities or gear upgrades that are lost on respawn.. but nothing's saying that characters should be featuring tank turrets.

The critique's based. Borderlands is equally as shit in this.
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>>335798203
>3gb update
thanks SOE
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>>335794463
the shooting mechanics are literally just battlefield with different skins

even the damage models are the same
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>>335793430
Haven't played Planetside 2 since 2012, is it worth trying again?
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>>335795105
>Oh they finally got around to adding stuff from the first one?
lolno, the PS2 ANT has absolutely nothing in common with the PS1 ANT

no resource revamp, no keeping actual bases online, nothing
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>>335798521
no

save thjose screenshots because PS2 looks much, much worse now, too
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>>335797801
Unless they completely rebalanced everything, better guns are a much better investment in any class than c4, mines, sundie upgrades, and res grenades. Not meditool and repairtool though. For example, you needed 4 C4 to actually one-shot upgraded vanu tanks last time I played, and it's not like you'll ever be able to even reach such a thing without getting one-shot. Beside, the blast radius of the C4 is so small you can't lay traps in 99% of places. And for infantry, shit's pretty useless when you could kill 20 people with a better gun instead of 2 people with a c4.
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>>335798443
Exactly. So stop shilling.
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>>335799167
>better guns
you mean more specialized guns, not better

>you needed 4 C4 to actually one-shot upgraded vanu tanks last time I played,
has never happened, it's always been two C4 to one shot a tank

>>335799246
daybreak can literally barely pay their own developers and you honestly think they can pay people to shill
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>>335799167

This, either flank with anti-armour missiles or go call in a tank, if it's supposed to be about the combined arms.
To be honest the main reason to complain about infantry is because vehicles are cheaper like BF compared to proper combined arms sims but you still get put out on a cooldown in the form of personally owned resources and spawning vehicles. So you can't spec into being a pilot and do that all day. So you have to get some infantry certs.
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>>335798296
But Infantry is arguably less than 1/3 of what you're doing if you consider support work within a plant or something just general support. I haven't done anything but drive, and tactically plan pushes for about a month. I think I got out to shoot a C4 fairy once.

>more than shooting
There's enough variety between all the classes, the problem is that a single person will probably never be able to use even half of it before he reaches like 50. This sucks, but its not like it isn't there.

>The criticism is obviously that the gameplay is super shallow
I actually resent that. Its got the same amount of finesse as halo reach (the one everyone apparently likes) with some faster TTK, and less floaty movement, and everyone fucking LOVES that shit. You have multiple kinds of jets, lots of underbarrel attachments, cloak, deployables, and max suits too. I have wet dreams about the sort of personalization and tools they'd put on max suits if I was in charge (I'd like them to buff their utility considerably, adding two whole slots for filling infantry niches like inf heals, detection, repair, and whatnot, and make them take full damage from tank mines unless they take mine guard, just like vehicles). I want to feel like I'm a fucking Mek boy. However this is what we got, and its not paltry. I want more utilities, and I might like some cooler weapons that don't just travel damage downrange and stop when you hit something, but that's it, and we do have things like camera missiles. I hope they bring back flamethrowers and only TR max gets it.
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>>335793430
>playing P2W games
Fucks sake just make the game 30$ up front and let me play with the guns I want
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>>335799380
>you mean more specialized guns, not better
Fuck off, shill. A gun that oneshots someone at a distance of over 9000 miles is strictly better than a gun that 2 shots people at a max distance of 100 feet despite being a sniper rifle.
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>>335799456
Only if you're bad. I've done nothing but drive sunderers for months.
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>>335798521
lol, no

stop shilling this garbage, higby drone
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>>335799598
Some weapons are dead, no one argues that. Don't buy dead weapons. Problem solved.
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>>335799640
You can spam sundy and you can spam vanu tank and you can spam bombers, but only if you have upgrades for them. Without upgrades, the sundy dies before it reaches its destination, the vanu tank can't hit for shit, the bomber can actually be fought by planes.
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>>335799507
>use even half of it before he reaches like 50. This sucks, but its not like it isn't there.

Is 50 like the max level or something?
Once there can you still get money for more stuff or are you permalocked in that state/have to "reset"?
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>>335799598
can you give me an actual example instead of nonsensical exaggeration
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>P2Wside 2

no thanks
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>>335799738
The base weapons are dead, become a p2w faggot good goy*

FTFY
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Quick, Vanu or terran
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Anyone finding good uses for the new max gun? Seems to be good vs valks and harassers
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>>335799795
TR snipers you fucking retard. If you're going to shill at least pretend you've played the game.
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>>335799814
>"base weapons are dead"
>half the vanu starting weapons are better than most available options
kek
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>>335793430
Sounds neat.
Can I use my thrustmaster hotas X to fly my reaver yet? Last time I played the joystick/thruster support was somewhere between absymal and non-existant. That's really the only thing stopping me from playing PS2 again.
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>>335796543
They've refunded certs for everything that received a major overhaul. If you didn't get a bajillion certs back like the rest of us did then it looks like you didn't actually cert anything meaningful.

There's also the VR zone where you can literally try out every weapon in the game including vehicles, at no cost to your character. You can always experiment there
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>>335799924
ah yes, snipers, the shitter's go to gun

good thing those sniper rifles are so great and overpowered that everyone is using those and not playing heavy assault with LMGs, you fucking moron

hillshitters literally do nothing in this game regardless of their gun
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>>335799792
half the old max, but you never stop gaining certs. Level is more for the enemy team, so they understand the skill level their up against, and for a general idea of how much you've upgraded.

>>335799814
Most of them, yes. Not all, and only TR has bad ones across the board. They're starter weapons, and you're likely working with bad resist shield or trying to light assault without flanking or C4 fairy-ing (lel). What do you expect? Besides, the actual gun is about 15% of what wins a fight. Most kills end up happening because of good detection, defense wins ties, or he's just better than you.
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>>335800246
>only TR has bad ones across the board.
V I C T I M C O M P L E X
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>>335800246
>Besides, the actual gun is about 15% of what wins a fight
More like 70%, the other 30% being whether you're attaching an easy base or defending a hard base, or if you're being retarded and not on the winning side of the meatgrinder.
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>>335800354
No, that's fact. All the TR starter weapons are subpar, while I think the there was one good starter on NC. Meanwhile, over half the vanu starter weapons legitimately outclass other weapons you pay for. It's almost as bad as TR max weapon values.
>1000 certs for a 75 ammo repeater that does identical damage to the 250 cert 100 ammo version.
>Shitty repeater rockets that are useless and worth nothing.
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>>335800469
It sounds like you were a shitty blueberry. The game is better without you.
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>>335800913
V I C T I M
I
C
T
I
M

>CARV is bad
>TRAC-5 is bad
>Cycler is bad

it is you who is bad
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>>335793430
Used to enjoy fighting on the Crown back in 2012, is Vanu still overpowered as shit or should I hold off on replaying?
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Tried this game 2/3 times, biggest issue for me was I found it hard to find a fight

Map is so big and I found I couldn't deploy where the action was happening

The gunplay is pretty nice though
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Assuming i might one day want to play, what are the faction strengths and weaknesses?
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>>335793430
Too little too late

Cash shop killed the game ages ago
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man, i remember when the gunship was still OP as shit
fun times, was it really 4 fucking years ago?
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>>335793430
>Planetside 2

Literally who?
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>>335801279
NC: burgers and freedom
TR: tears and faggotry
VS: asses and lasers
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>>335801451
Meme answers for a meme game i see
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>>335801078
>Cycler
>Not using Sabr
Its like you hate using good guns!
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>>335801523

Being serious though some weapons are shit for gimmick reasons and otherwise they're identical compared to PL1.

Like Vanu is supposed to be all beam/laser weapons with weird damage ramping with range, but instead you just get modified rate of fire and shit.
Oh, and their tanks float, big whoop. Still a slow moving big gun.
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>>335801523
that's literally the only difference at this point, everything is cosmetic at best
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>>335801078
Yes, they are. Especially the cycler. Good god that gun is awful. The carv is a lot like the TR repeater rocket. It seems cool on paper until you realize its terrible at everything. What are you going to light machine gun at with its effective range?
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>>335801983
>Cycler
>awful

i'm done talking to you until you stop sucking at video games
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>>335801078
People think Carv is op because they get up close to TR and wonder why the faction all about RoF killed them.
>wooooooooooooooow!
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I've been playing PS2 on/off for 3+ years, when I started I was on Matherson, now it's Emerald. It's still a fun game if you have a squad/outfit to roll with who communicate. I'm in GOTR, hella fun. I've personally dumped money at DBG, since grinding weapons is a bitch, and while no weapon is a direct upgrade, I like the specializations. (Namely, Ghost close-range Infil, Archer Engi and Corvus Medic.) I'm hyped to actually try this tonight, it was fun on PTS.
>>335794305
>blueberries
Holy shit what kind of term is that? It's greenies.
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>>335802285
Blueberries because they're always blue, and never in a squad.
>Matherson, now it's Emerald
I'm on emerald! :D
>I'm in GOTR
I'm a burger.
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>>335802096
Use the sabr. Is much better.
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>>335802674
But greenies is what most people say tbqh. In PS1, your friendlies were green. Despite it being default Blue now, greenies is more common.

So am I. It's a burger group. You should join, we're fun and only usually tacticool on Thursdays.
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>>335802674
>>335802285

GOTR are burgers
I got the GOTR e-mail because I signed up with them quick for PL1, now I check population counts and GOTR is dead outside 3AM when they get 50.

That's why I said before I guess I'm mercing.
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I remember a couple years back getting my engie on NC and going to indar just to use my tank mines. I'd go to the long arse bridge that goes over the crater all the way from warp base or w/e on my fucking quadbike with turbo , place two mines in one choke point and two or three in another and wait for the TR pleb's tanks to roll through (also the butthurt from TR when warp rotation was put in and they had to deal with the canyon shitfest was so good). I have good memories of this game but every time I come back to it i realize how empty it makes me feel playing it. Yeah...
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>>335794328
The game is not even supporting x32 anymore
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>TR and VS bitch constantly about NC being overpowered because shotguns
>TR and VS can kill you at any range with combo of damage, accuracy and no drop off or billions of headshots
>NC is only excels at anti-vehicle or pointblank range
>NC getting nerfed when TR and VS are bigger offenders of being over powered

Yeah that really sucked it out. Became really hard to actually win as NC because they kept bitching about scatMaxes
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>>335802916
Oh, yeah you're sadly SOL if you're not a fellow burger. But really, the only other burger outfits of size are DAPP and GOKU. Both tend to be idiots and never have ANY serious events. Specifically, DAPP ruins fights by zerging in with 100ish shitters. And GOKU is only slightly better. Not that GOTR is some godlike entity, but it's about 40-50% vets most nights, so they aren't shit and can change fights if they try. Also, our vehicle game is waaaay stronger then or infantry, if you like Harasser/Mag or are an airshitter you're looking at the right outfit.
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>>335802885
>>335802916
>GOTR
>TR
welp, I feel dumb.
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>>335795147
everyone is using miniguns- what is this, terran meme squad?
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>>335803306
We only complain about the Jackhammer in that it does its job. The minigun doesn't. There's also the fact that TR has the worst Max suits, and yours and vanu are best at different things (vanu max is a lone wolf monster and the NC max shotguns rockets>repeaters and shittier rockets when Maxs are suited to indoor play). TR isn't UP IMO if that's what you're thinking.
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>>335803306
TR base needs to line up 2 headshots to kill someone, assuming no armor upgrades, and that's impossible due to recoil and drop which they have. They need a sniper upgrade to actually one-shot anyone. NC starts with a sniper that one-shots. So does VS. Outside from that and bombs, TR has no instagib weapons. VS has one-shot tanks and HA though. So does NC.
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>>335803352
Wat, no, GOTR is VS. GOTR stands for Ghosts of the Revolution. Since I remember /ps2g/ being autistic about it, ignore any edgy-sounding descriptions on the website for the different squads and stuff, no one actually tries to be like the descriptions, it's just for trying to get players in. Also, when you join, you choose a group (Infantry/Vehicle/Air), but it's not set in stone, and only applies on Thursday raids.
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>>335800078
I'll fight for thicc ayylmaos then
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>>335803424
Miniguns do amazing chip damage to large targets that take small arms damage like harassers and ESFs, and the specifics of what weapons you use in a battlebus become sort of pointless. Because of that, miniguns and TR in general are highly suited to BB play, probably better than any other faction, which is why when our maxes suck, I'm not too broken up about it.
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>>335803306
vs has no drop

not no drop off

nc's 167 damage profile weapons are the best medium to long range guns in the game and the easiest to control to boot (zero horizontal recoil)

>>335803626
>TR base needs to line up 2 headshots to kill someone, assuming no armor upgrades, and that's impossible due to recoil and drop which they have
one headshot and one bodyshot

>So does VS.
no they don't

> TR has no instagib weapons. VS has one-shot tanks and HA though. So does NC.
literally what the fuck are you memeing about
fuck off you cunt
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>>335803732
exactly, I feel dumb thinking you were TR.
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>>335793430
remember when everquest next was a thing?
ya me neither.
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>>335803951
Sorry friend. Don't join AOD or Recursion, PLEASE. I hate them so much, AOD is a zergfit and Recursion use some fucking dirty tactics and just make fights 300% unfun.
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>>335801279
VS: OP
TR: victim complex lvl 9001
NC: teamkilling
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>>335803938
>I've never played the game, but let me shill for it anyway!
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>>335804176
where is the evidence
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>>335804209
In the game and in the statistics of the weapons.
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>>335804079
I know aaaaaall about AoD. Turd burgler, here. I run em' over. Don't even stop.
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So, what's the most fun moment/fight/raid night you've ever has in PS2?
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>>335804272
God bless you, sir. I'll be sure not to hit you when I flank over a mountain with my FLOATING TANK LOL STRAFING XD
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>>335804271
okay i'm almost done pooping which bit do you want me to post first
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>>335804305
Joining the PHX battalion in NC on a night we all did a huge air raid. Two or three Galaxies loaded mostly with MAXes, a good 4 Liberators and probably 6 or so Reavers.

Then the Vanu happened just after some of the lead guys had to get off for the night.
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>Downloading the game fresh
>Less than 100mb to go
>Suddenly goes to double digit kb/s

why
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>>335803424
Battle bus is a strat with a single squad of twelve, three engies, and 9 H assaults. H assualts take AA rockets (that's the important part), and the engies run the guns. The nine assaults are a rocket throwing suicide squad that can redeploy to the moving sunderer at any time, and if the damage gets too much, you park, and the three engies rep it up in 3 seconds flat. You use base guns with thermals, and a LOT of spare ammo, and go deep between enemy lines. It's extremely effective, even without upgrades, but fully upgraded, with a dedicated squad, its unstoppable.
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>>335804595
It always does that when it's updating/downloading the actual exe. No, we don't know why.
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>>335803821
i love how TR victim complex ignores things like pounders being able to assblast everything easily
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>>335804557
Oh fuck man, some of my best memories are from 3 years back, one-shotting ESFs out of the sky with a Dalton. Fuuuck, I need a good lib pilot bro.
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>>335804627
using the minigun is still pretty questionable, but at least it may look cool
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>>335804771
I was trying my best to be a Lib pilot with that 6 shot fiery death bottom gun but after the first week the AA got so bad I couldn't even take off without having 3 Skyguards and 2 rockets with the occasional Scythe on my ass before being able to control the damn thing.

After that continued I just went to being designated Skyguard.
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>>335804727
pounders are 250 certs, and balanced accordingly. They're terrible indoors, and their terrible for fighting armor, basically everything about the TR max is like this.
>victim complex
Bitch I JUST finished explaining why TR might as well be broken. As long as its not maxes, or primaries, our shit rox.
>TFW fully automatic secondary
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>>335804973
TR secondary is the best but it's literally the only thing they've got going for them.
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Everyone in this thread is false flagging.
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>>335804954
Yeah, the air game needs to be fixed, badly. If you haven't been piloting for a year+, you're not going to do shit, and everyone will be both more skilled and better certed than you.
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>>335804951
It doesn't matter how accurate when there are nine other people shooting downrange, and you're not worried about spawns, its very practical. Besides, inf are for their AA rockets primarily, our faction weapons happen to be suited to the battlebus strat the best though. Camera rockets don't work, and neither do jackhammers, but 4 of them in a valk gives me evil ideas.
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Still pay2win?
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who /NC/ here?

their cool, their like terran from Star craft. rebels and whatnot. the TR are lame and the other guys are ayy lmaos.
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>>335805309
Even more than before.
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>>335804973
not so good against armor, but seeing people can hold buildings and farm like mad with pounders in biolabs, etc.
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>>335805354
> tfw will never relive the glory days of PS1 with loads of armchair infantry and ex-army bros.

jdimsa.
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>>335804703

>Finished
>Start game
>CTD on first loading screen

good job SOE
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they should make a game like Planetside except in a World War 2 setting. massive battles with tanks, aircraft, infantry, etc. that would be gr8
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>>335805226
I haven't played since the jungle place got released, and that was just a few times on a different computer since my own toaster is impossible to play beyond 4 fps.

It was fun being a Lib pilot. Hovering around, being a siege platform then running off and making perfectly smooth landings after getting attacked.
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who here regrets playing nc when vs would have been the best choice
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>>335805541
I agree. They should call this game "battlefield" or some shit.
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>>335805541

>World War 2
>No choppers allowed

No.
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>>335805539
It does that sometimes.

We also don't know why.
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>>335805138
Our faction specific rocket launcher is best. It was so good, they had to make an NS version.
Wait-
>lancer
Fuck, why is Vanu always better at everything?
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>>335805712
because devs play vs and probably hate nc because nc gets the worst stuff
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>>335805604
NC is best faction
TR are a bunch of whiny faggots that can wreck almost anything at any point but still whined that a shotgun in their face can one or two shot
VS are faggots in latex suits that use lasers and are the best of everything except for shotguns and anti-vehicle.

I've tried the other two after being NC and the game became 200% easier no matter what I was in unless I went to 1v1 an upgraded NC tank.
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>>335805880
>devs
>playing ps2
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>>335805404
if it was zerg V zerg, maybe, but at that point, NC maxes are in-niche as hell. Those shotguns fucking decimate compared to the repeaters on TR max.
>But TR max has better range
That's the whole point. Max suits aren't FOR long range combat, their for short range combat where the heat calls for a higher health total to break through. NC maxes are specced for their niche almost excessively well, and the vanu one is just hands down overpowered.

Meanwhile, the TR max is just fucking terrible at everything. Have fun using dual mercies, you won't actually kill anything like you would with a vanu sniper max, or a raven max. Do you not see how the TR max is sort of outclassed at every turn?
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>>335805880
>devs play vs
Higby was the NC posterchild.
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