How can they ever top SMG?
>>335790480
They can't.
It was the last time they poured soul and heart into a Mario game.
>>335790480
They already did
>>335790480
By making Super Mario Galaxy 2.
Oh wait.
They always topped it twice over with SMG2
>>335790550
>>335790568
>>335790581
while SMG2 has indeed superior gameplay and level design, it lacks the charm of the 1st game.
>>335790619
lemme take a guess
le storybook?
>>335790619
What charm?
>>335790619
>muh storybook
>muh charm
Mario games are first and foremost about gameplay
>>335790748
You think a little spaceship is more charming than the observatory?
Or the story?
>>335790550
That's not what I meant ya dingus I meant the mario series in general how can they TOP SMG 1/2 collectively.
>>335790480
U R MR GAY
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Jesus, SMG2 was so good. Also, since we had last 3D Mario game in 2013 I guess we will see the next one in 2017 on NX.
What do you guys expect?
>>335790619
>it lacks the novelty factor of the first game
Yes it does, it's also a better game.
>>335790810
It's a Mario game, the story is always going to be trite so nobody cares about it
Observatory is nicer than the Faceship but that's pretty irrelevant, I'm not playing for the hub level
>>335790886
>Also, since we had last 3D Mario game in 2013
>>335790550
>>335790568
>>335790581
>Mario 3 map
>linear as fuck
>no thematic worlds
>collecting green stars feels like a chore
It's shit.
They topped it 15 years prior.
The galaxy games are slow, floaty garbage compared to previous 3D entries.
>>335790927
W-What?
>>335790480
>UR MR GAY
What did they mean by this?
How could they ever top Yoshi's Island?
How can they ever top Super Metroid?
How can they ever top Super Mario Bros 3?
Sometimes you reach the pinnacle. Then you try something new, like SM64 or Metroid Prime.
>>335790989
Don't you know, saying 3D World isn't a 3D Mario game is the hot new meme?
>>335791020
Yoshi's Island because all Yoshi games are shit except that one.
Zero Mission and Prime were better than Super
SMW and NSMB DS were better.
>>335791064
3D World is part of the "Super Mario 3D" series, which includes Land and World.
It's not part of the "Super Mario" series like 64, Sunshine and the Galaxies.
>>335790480
Sunshine is better than Galaxy.
>>335791193
What is this, the fucking Official Mario Timeline?
Fuck off moron
>>335791193
Mario 3D is literally in the title
How the fuck is it not a 3D mario game?
>>335791196
when contrarianism ges too far
>>335791335
You can't deny that the whole Mario series has its own subsets of series.
>>335791472
When you're too autistic to accept that people have opinions without resorting to spamming 'contrarian'
>>335791335
But he was correct, you are the moron.
I don't like gimmick Mario games, Sunshine was annoying because of the water pack, Galaxy was annoying because planets.
Mario 64 got it right the first time.
The last 3D Mario game I enjoyed was Super Mario 3D World, since it was an actual platformer that focused on platforming and not shoving gimmicks in your face.
I wasn't blown away by Galaxy. It was alright. Had some cool ideas. Didn't match up to the endless fun that was SM64 or contemporary games like Monster Hunter Tri or Xenoblade Chronicles.
Now, Galaxy 2, holy shit. It should be criminal to make a platformer that fucking amazing in 2011. The genre had been dead for over a decade and that bombshell comes in and wrecks everything that came before it.
>>335791448
>guys Mario Party is a 3D Mario game because it's in 3D
Dumbass
>>335791615
>cat suit
>not gimmick
>>335790480
Sunshine was better
DUDE, GRAVITY got boring in 10 minutes, Galaxy and Galaxy 2 are eye-wateringly easy and simple once the novelty wears off
>>335791659
Mario Party is a turn based game where you roll dice to move a set amount of spaces
3D World is a platformer in 3D space where you enter specific levels and have free control of Mario inside them
>>335791801
>Super Paper Mario is a 2D Mario because you platform in 2D
>>335791735
It's a powerup.
You can run up walls. You never have to unless you're trying to get 100%, in which case you also need to use powerups like the boomerang.
Super Mario's Epic Galaxy
>>335791758
DUDE, WATER PACK is way more dull considering it often slows gameplay to a crawl.
There's a reason why everybody's favourite parts of Sunshine are the FLUDD-less platformer stages on platforms floating in a void, and it's not because Galaxy and 3D World are "worse" than Sunshine
>>335790480
Since Galaxies are the worst real 3D Marios, the answer is : easily.
>>335791626
What difference between Galaxy and Galaxy 2 made you like 2 that much more?
>>335791109
>Zero Mission and Prime
>NSMB DS
>better
>>335790864
YA I M R U
>>335791857
SPM has RPG elements, 3d sections etc
But you're baiting so who cares
>>335791968
>everybody's favourite parts
only nostalgiafags on /v/ remember those as the best parts
>>335790480
Not with garbage like 3DW, that's for sure.
>>335791968
>it often slows gameplay to a crawl.
Only if you were bad at the game.
>>335791626
Yeah,, me too, I was never really that impressed with Galaxy, I never even really finished it beyond the story and a few of the extra stars.
Galaxy 2 on the other hand really blew me away, I guess since it was near the end of the Wii's life more or less, they were really able to go all out with it.
>>335792062
And in 3D World you don't collect stars to unlock new levels or gather starts by doing different map objectives without a timer, so by your logic 3D World isn't a real 3D Mario game.
Fuck off.
>>335792076
Look at that piece of shit it was clearly meant for 3DS god nintendo are retarded.
>>335792069
They were my favorite because of that dope ass a capella theme song.
>>335792101
You are a retard if you think there aren't any sections where you have to slow down and use the hover nozzle gimmick to progress
>>335791968
My favourite part of Sunshine is the manta ray mission.
>>335792176
Yeah, it was pretty good.
>>335792164
>Super Mario 3D World (Japanese: スーパーマリオ3Dワールド Hepburn: Sūpā Mario Surī Dī Wārudo?) is a platform game in the Super Mario series developed and published by Nintendo for the Wii U video game console. Released worldwide in November 2013, it is the sixth original 3D platformer in the Super Mario series and a follow-up to 2011's Nintendo 3DS game, Super Mario 3D Land. The game received critical acclaim, with its level design, multiplayer, visuals and music all receiving high praise.
>Released worldwide in November 2013, it is the sixth original 3D platformer in the Super Mario series
>sixth original 3D platformer in the Super Mario series
Sorry pal
>never beat Sunshine because of that gay ass watermelon mission
With any decently made 2d platformer.
Please stop thinking 3d platformers are good, nugamers.
Please.
>>335792261
>wikipedia
You sure convinced me.
>>335792004
I'll start by saying I found Galaxy to be pretty boring, big levels with hardly any obstacles. Lots of running and jumping between empty planetoids or standing on slow-moving platforms. I remember enjoying the hailfire peak stage.
Galaxy 2 is the polar opposite, there are obstacles and enemies fucking everywhere. Every moment of every stage is 100% concentrated action. It's so addictive, you just keep playing and playing and beat the game in two days.
>>335792209
That's fair enough and I was generalizing to make a point
>>335792339
Can't argue with the facts my man :^)
>>335792353
This actually makes a lot of sense. The level designers of SMG1 were probably apprehensive to add too many enemies since the gravity gimmick was such a new concept for Mario players. Then by the time 2 came around they and the players knew what they were doing.
Super Mario 64 DS is my favorite Mario game.
>>335792587
They added super guides and optional tutorials to compensate, but SMG2 is clearly much more intense and difficult than any 3D Mario before it, except a few poorly programmed sections in Sunshine.
>>335792181
>What are spin/triple jumps.
Again, you were bad at the game. Don't blame the game from your inability.
>>335792265
someone post the webm
>>335792741
You pretty clearly don't understand what I'm saying
Go ahead and clear the game without the hover nozzle, I'm waiting
>>335791020
Yoshi's Wooly World, Fusion and Super Mario World.
>>335792853
>Fusion better than Super
>>335792838
>Wow it's not like I could have googled that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfHzrQX6z-8
>>335792741
I distinctly remember being forced to walljump then nozzle backwards onto platforms several times.
>>335792853
3 strikes, you're out
>>335793054
>rocket nozzle if you needed to climb a cliff
Now you are just pretending to be retarded.
You know what saddens me? I never managed to get 120 shine sprites, the complete deck, finis and denouement. It was always 119 and 9 blue coins. I could never locate the last blue coin, but I specifically remember it was in Pianta Village. I would literally spend entire moons and evenings of my childhood scavenging the levels for that last one blue coin. I so desperately wanted the euphoria that follows from finishing that game for good without using a manual. I never found it, mind you. What's worse is that I wake up one day to find the game's files have corrupted. Honest to God, I felt it was my duty to end it, my conscience could not lax knowing my work is unfinished. I remember spending days blowing on the disc, cleaning the console and replacing batteries, little things of despair. In the end, I knew I had to discard it, and so I broke the disc in half. It lasted a long ten years with me. It was a great investment, it really was. I never got to read the caption at the finale for myself: "Have a relaxing vacation." I don't remember having a relaxing vacation ever since.
okay /v/, riddle me this: why is it that the galaxy games are so good, while the 3d land/world games so bad? they're essentially the same
>>335793284
Go back and finish it faggot.
>>335793290
3D Land and 3D World:
>no variation in levels; every stage was "touch the flagpole and get green stars on the way there"
>no NPC interaction
>phenomenally easy
>every boss is "jump on its head 3 times"
>substantially shorter than the Galaxy games
They're not "essentially the same" at all
>>335793290
One was designed for single player, the other for 4 people sharing the screen. The cramped areas reflect this.
>>335790480
They did, on the prior console no less.
>>335793290
I love 3D World, but they're completely different. 3D World plays like a 2D Mario in 3D, while Galaxy and the other "3D Marios" are adventure games.
only half of sunshine is worth playing through the other half is fucking garbage
>>335790480
Well, Galaxy can't top Galaxy since it's it own Mario genre. I'd say that Galaxy 2 is slightly better.
>>335793187
>>335793054
>>335792838
>>335792741
Oh well damn. Look what I found. Four of the 240 blue coins are impossible to get unless you have the hover nozzle.
>>335793284
The blue coins were a mistake.
>>335792209
Stay under the shelter.
>>335793664
Thank god Donkey Kong 64 killed the whole collect-a-thon genre which Donkey Kong Country 2 started.
>>335793718
Color coded bananas, having to go to the barrels to swap Kongs and like a third of the fucking golden bananas being repeated minigames were even bigger mistakes.
>>335792209
I remember that mission as clear as day when the game first came out. I had the guide book with me at the time. I still died a lot, confused and worried that that mission was impossible.
In my second playthrough I wiped the floor with him with a bunch of acrobatic moves. It was so god damn cash.
>>335793891
>having to go to the barrels to swap Kongs
MN let you switch on the fly and it didn't even need an expansion pack. It's such bullshit.
Quick /v/, I can only play either SMG or SMG 2, which one do I pick? Show your work.
>>335791626
Galaxy 2 is not nearly different enough from 1 to justify loving it while hating 1.
They're both shit boring floaty games you retard.
>>335793969
SMG has better atmosphere, better hub world, better story, but SMG2 has better level design.
It's a tough choice.
>>335791968
>DUDE, WATER PACK is way more dull considering it often slows gameplay to a crawl.
wait
wait
are you fucking serious? are you seriously suggesting that FLUDD slows gameplay? FLUDD moves faster than mario's max fucking speed in galaxy. holy SHIT he's so fucking slow in galaxy it's unbearable. and FLUDD only needs to be used in short bursts in sunshine. in galaxy you're fucking stuck with that mario's slow ass movement.
also fuck galaxy mario's lack of diving.
>>335790480
By releasing 3DWorld
>>335791109
Le Jeff Gerstman Yoshi hate maymay XDXSDXSSXXDDXDXSXDXD LELELELELE OOOPSY I MADE A POOPSY! MY SINGUS WINGUS OF COURSE! LOL FACTORY IMMINENT!
fuck off, Woolly World is amazing.
>>335791615
>Sunshine was annoying because of the water pack
what is it like having shit taste
>>335792076
>>335792169
>No friends confirmed
i keep forgetting to buy a bigger flash drive for my fucking wii u so i can pirate all dem wii games
>>335794616
You're probably the only one who played it.
>>335794824
It sold well.
It's also a fine game, probably better than YI aside from the bosses.
>>335794824
Oh, well I can chime in here because I fucking love Yoshi's Island.
Yoshi's Wooly World is probably the only Yoshi game, TO DATE, to ever come close to the original glory.
>>335795054
Pretty good taste, friend
>>335794616
jesus christ calm down dude
not everyone can like your amiibo collectathon marketing shit
Hmmmmm
>>335790942
I wouldn't outright say garbage, but they don't hold a candle to Mario 64. But try telling that to the kids on this board
>>335795608
Oh please, give me a break.
>It's an /r9k/posters get mad at 3D world thread
Both Galaxy games were fantastic.
3D World is absolutely putrid. Fuck 2D Mario Games and fuck Nintendo for deciding to model the 3D games on the same stupid 2D formula. Fuck timers, fuck locked isometric cameras, fuck stupid gimmick powerups like the catsuit, fuck Nintendo, a studio now full of talentless hacks.
>>335796074
>/r9k/
where did that even come from
>>335790480
It was a downgrade from Sunshine though.
>>335796074
what
>>335796292
Oh no they removed the shitty water shooting mechanics! Downgrade!
>>335796130
I thought they all were fantastic. I feel sorry for you, that you can't enjoy them all.
>>335796402
3D world is an excellent game but if you're not playing coop you're missing half the experience.
That's why friendless /r9k/ers get so triggered over it.
>>335796748
those are some mental gymnastics if I ever seen one
are you perhaps autistic? Don't be scared to admit it, it just means that you can't really take part in these discussions
>>335796905
you seem to have been emotionally distressed about that post.
did he upset you? are you, autism?
>>335795159
Never once bought or used an amiibo for Woolly World
Test
>>335790480
Shit Mario game, 6/10
>>335790480
Sm64 and Sunshine have vastly better gameplay mechanics. Even if you say that the rest is all worse, it literally doesn't matter. Gameplay is king and nothing else can make up for it if you fuck it up
>>335790480
Worst 3D Mario
>>335790619
True.SMG2 may be have better gameplay, powerups and level design, but SMG has more charm, comfyness and better story, so in my mind SMG is the better game.
>>335790480
By killing miyamoto
>>335790619
I agree, I thought the overall atmosphere of SMG was much better. I like having a hub that you slowly unlock over a generic level selector.
That said, I love both games and they were the only redeeming thing about the Wii.
