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Sup /v/.
Please convince me NOT to buy dark souls 3.
Tell me bad things about it. Tell me it's bad.
Please /v/. Stop me.Save me
>>335787017
It is bad, though. I pretty much just bought it because it was Dark Souls, but it's completely unremarkable. I almost regret it.
It's just more of the same, really. Unless you're a hardcore soulsfag just wait for the complete edition with all the DLCs.
>>335787017
cheap enemies with infinite stamina
cheap bosses with 2hit kills, if they land any 360 sweep attack, there'll be a overhead slam follow up which will hit you no matter what you do. which is essentially a OHK really.
"artificial difficulty" at its worst.
>>335787163
>>335787728
Thanks guys. Is it worse than DS2?
>>335787220
Solid advice anon, thanks.
>>335788293
DeS > DaS > DaS3 >> BB >>>>>>>>> DaS2
3's story and characters are very lacking and you can't really go where you want when you want like the previous games so it's not better than the two first ones because of that. It's got neat gear and pvp though.
>>335788398
I see.
One thing that I hated about DaS was GFWL and problems with pvp\coop. It's really what DS2 bought me with, the absence of GFWL.
As someone who loved the series when it was just DeS and bought and sucked the dick of every installment since - it's stale. The game is good, but if you've played the rest it just feels worn. Not much has changed, it's really not hard when you are used to the enemy BS that is the same as every other game. I made it to almost the end and started getting bored - even started a new chat before finishing because I thought maybe it was my build. Nope. Game is bearable if you go full summon and Co op the whole way and ignore the /v/ meme of not really beating the game - I beat almost every boss solo up until the end and realized it wasn't satisfying and I wasn't having fun.
All of that would be redeemable if the online wasn't shit. The delay makes parrying mostly a guessing game or a spamming game. Somehow the net play has gotten worse - I thought Bloodborne was bad, but it's downright frustrating.
It's good and I'm glad I played it. Especially co-op and pvp is fun and flourishing at the moment.
>>335787017
poor replayability by souls standard
pvp and covenants are lame as fuck compared to dark souls 2
tobeho it will be better in a year with all the dlc and when memezaki fixes the covenants and pvp
>>335787017
Holy Shit this thread is a disaster.
Sorry OP, DS3 is well on par with DAS - perhaps better. You will not regret buying it, at least when you are playing it.
Are enemies varied at least?Or mostly dudes in armor?
>>335788501
DaS doesn't have GFLW anymore. DaS3 certianly has the best matchmaking even if the covenants and PvP systems are a little questionable (ie prioritizing 2v1s over 1v1s).
Don't listen to the guy saying you can't sequence break. You can kill the Lords of Cinder in any order with the one thing being you need to kill the Abyss Watchers before Yhorm and Aldrich. Areas can be done in different orders and a major break in the intended sequence at the start means there's only a handful of areas you can't immediately get to.
>>335788398
>>DeS > DaS > DaS3 >> BB >>>>>>>>> DaS2
>the "ds2 is bad" meme
>LE B-TEAM LE TRACKING ENEMIES LE LE XD
If you're getting tired of the Souls gameplay then you will definitely get bored of this game fast. Its by far the most linear and restricting.
>shitty netcode all over again
>enemy placement is as bad as in 2 (room with 8 jailers)
>no poise
>armors are useless and unupgradeable
>some of the covenants are only working for the chosen ones (50 hours in and zero summons as darkmoon)
>zero build variety
>only 2-3 weapons are viable
>magic is shit and useless
>weapon arts are shit and useless
3 has the worst pvp in any of the Souls games, if you enjoy pvp you will hate 3.
>>335787017
>listening to /v/
Just buy it, you cunt. It's a great fucking game.
>>335787017
It's literally perfect.
>>335788757
Lots of dudes in armor, but they made them actually interesting and fucking fun fights. Not like DaS2 where you could almost predict an entire boss battle against an armored dude before going through the fog door.
>>335788882
>invaders STILL buttblasted
>>335787017
>linear as fuck
>bonfire every 2 meters
>pretty easy overall
>90%+ bosses are humanoid
>gimmick bosses
>doesn't confirm anything lore wise, just lets you make your own hypothesis with shit you see and read
>>335787017
Better level design than das2 but not anywhere close to the masterpiece that was das1
The bosses are mostly decent/good, but all enemies suffer from very little telegraphing and quick attacks with absurdly long combo's and infinite stamina.
It almost boils down to the person with the quickest weapon wins because of stagger. Playing defensively will be punished more often than not, which I don't like.
There are fewer weapons and armors, magic and pyromancies are less fun and the general gamebalance is poor.
Still a decent game, would recommend if you like the series.
Fucking contrarian neo-/v/ babbies. It's a great game and you'll enjoy it immensely.
>>335788772
>(ie prioritizing 2v1s over 1v1s).
This does not happen.
>>335788772
>Don't listen to the guy saying you can't sequence break.
You have basically no leeway, you can skip very little, it's NOTHING like the earlier Souls games and quite limiting. It hurts replayability a lot.
>>335787163
And not a single point was made
>>335787728
>cheap enemies with infinite stamina
hurr hurr hurr
guess you want something like DS1 enemies where you could either shield all the attacks or fat roll once and kill the giant without trouble
This is one of the reasons DS3 is so much better than DS1, the fights are fast paced and exciting, they keep you on edge
I don't usually say this but git fucking gud
>>335789048
Holy fuck, saved
>>335789132
this. It´s nothing new but it´s still much better than a lot of the other shit that gets released in pretty much every aspect. I enjoy it.
>>335787017
OK
>casting builds (pyromancy, faith, sorcery) are total shit and not viable
>poise is actually, factually broken
>darkmoon/blue sentinels covenants are also still broken
>invasions are broken, invaders are horribly gimped and are a nuisance at worst
>PvP meta in general is fucking awful and makes fighting other players awful
>performance is shit, you need a high-tier PC for the game to remain decently playable
>every other area and named item is borrowed from previous games
>barely more difficult than vanilla DaS2, bonfires everywhere
>enemy stat inflation gets ridiculous after Dancer
>gamefeel, difficulty, pacing, atmosphere, etc. are simply not up to snuff with first DaS
Dark Souls 3 is fucking garbage
>>335789194
>This does not happen.
Yes it does. Why do you think it doesn't? The game absolutely prioritizes having you invade people with phantoms. I am always embered and never summon and never get invaded but when I invade the person ALWAYS has a summon. I've done over 200 invasions and the solo players I've invaded is in teh single digits.
>You have basically no leeway, you can skip very little, it's NOTHING like the earlier Souls games and quite limiting. It hurts replayability a lot.
Areas you can get to by beating only one boss (not counting Iudex): High Lothric Wall, Lothric Castle, Consumed King's Garden, Undead Settlement, Road of Sacrafice, Farron Keep.
Areas you can get two only beating two bosses: Cathedral of the Deep, Untended Graves, Grand Archives, Catacombs of Carthus and Smouldering Lake
If you beat the right combination of bosses then after 3 you can access everywhere in the game besides Anor Londo.
I'd say being able to get pretty much anywhere by beating 3 bosses (literally only one place you can't get to) and most other places after 2 is a good deal of freedom.
You should buy it. Its single player content is top notch. Multiplayer is unbalanced with Estoc and Dork Swords.
I bet this game is wonderful if you co-op it with a friend.
The only way I can tell you not to buy it is if you value the multiplayer component more than the SP component, because the odds are severely stacked against the invader this time. 4v1.
>>335789663
>>I bet this game is wonderful if you co-op it with a friend.
makes it too easy
>>335789537
>darkmoon/blue sentinels covenants are also still broken
Even after todays patch?
>>335789768
Oh shit, is that today?
>>335789792
I think so.
>>335789132
the OP is asking for people to tell him it's shit
they then proceed to do so
fuck you
>>335789537
Darkmoon works it's just not active. It doesn't work well. I've also seen a fair amount of blue sentinels but that covenant is worthless so who even cares if you never see them.
The PVP is fine but you're right about performance.
It's trivial to do the dancer before Vordt and the 'stat inflation' doesn't exist, you always take tons of damage you fucking shitter.
>>335789626
Because I've invaded over 200 players too and get invaded on top and I'm always alone and the vast majority of them are 1v1. You must be unlucky or doing it wrong, there are practically half a dozen ways to invade and the locations v ary on top of that, you can easily get 1v1s or 3v1s if you want.
It's nothing like DeS where you have 5 worlds you can go to whenever and nothing like Dark Souls 1 or 2 which have a variety of paths you can take at any given time. It's very limiting, why are you even arguing otherwise when you just agreed?
>please tell me a game is bad because I'm a child that shouldn't be browsing 4chan to begin with
A sage and a fuck you to you, OP.
>>335789998
>Because I've invaded over 200 players too and get invaded on top and I'm always alone and the vast majority of them are 1v1.
Maybe you live in a region or play at a time when few people are co-oping
Your anecdotal evidence is meaningless, a good majority of my invasions are against groups.
>>335789998
Darkmoon and Blue Sentinels are the exact same thing
>>335789998
>Because I've invaded over 200 players too and get invaded on top and I'm always alone and the vast majority of them are 1v1.
Either very lucky, all in week 1, or bullshit
>>335790113
Yours is even more worthless and came from pre-release shitposting. There's nothing that gains favor for invaders except the dried finger. If you're getting tons of unfair match ups you're just running into people using fingers. Either way it's not even hard to kill 2v1 or 3v1 groups and there are ways to ensure 1v1.
>>335790115
No they aren't.
>>335790291
No, you don't know what you're talking about. It's a known fact that the game prioritizes summoners as invasion candidates.
>that just means people are using the dried finger!
If that's the case then literally everybody has the finger activated at all times
>>335790557
Prove it then. You can't.
>>335788528
>ahhh, sponge, or some say spongebob. grant us eyes.
>>335788784
Thanks for dropping by and letting us know you love DaS2, reddit.
>>335789205
The point is that it's bad. Are you retarded?
Poise is non existence.
Literally.
Like you need to change config and get banned in order to have poise
>>335791202
You can use poise weapon arts though you shitter.
>>335791027
Thanks for letting us know you love linear casual literal rehashes. It's better cause miyazaki!!!!!!
Obviously not.
Things Dark Souls 2 does better
-non linear
-more variety of baddies
-more boss's
-more armor, weapons, everything
-actual ng+ content - added mobs, added difficulty
-more story, dialogue, npc's etc.
>>335787017
Poise is LITERALLY turned off for no reason, as in change
{
Poise = 0; //activates poise
}
to
{
Poise = 1; //activates poise
}
in the games files and it will work again, but From hates you so they'll ban you for doing it
>>335791438
So my turtle armor does shit but swinging my fists saying:" Oua lurdy lorde can ya please let me not get bumfucked by rats because I'm made of twigs?
>>335787017
Hoesntly, it's not a bad game. Come again, I haven't played since DeS and I'm hacing a blast now.
I'd say it's not worth full price, but definetly at 40 bucks or less if you can.
Don't listen to people who complain about balance and everything. If you just want a game to explore and enjoy while doing some MP here and there, it's definetly good enough. Specially if you aren't "mature" enough to still inmerse yourself in a videogame.
>>335789048
>send to back
holy fuck
>>335791469
>dark souls 2 non linear.
>>335787017
Unless you're the kind of tospot that loves ebin fan service like MGS4, you're not missing out.
>>335791469
-non linear
Simply not true, das2 is way more linear, with very few shortcuts and a badly designed levels.
-more variety of baddies
quantity=/=quality, the mobs were uninspired shit, that were placed as gank squads throughout the whole game to make it more "challenging".
-more boss's
The bosses were just plain horrible. Covetous demon, old iron king etc. this game has a ridiculous amount of shit bosses everyone had already forgotten.
-more armor, weapons, everything
As I said above, quality=/=quantity, DaS3 weapons and armor look and perform much better because the game has proper animations on a proper engine.
-actual ng+ content - added mobs, added difficulty
DaS3 has NG+ content. Play the game before you spout nonsense.
-more story, dialogue, npc's etc.
More NPCs? More dialogue? Are you shitting me? Have you played DaS3? And story? Really? Fuck off.
Jesus, think about how pathetic this thread is for a moment.
You are so insecure with your own opinion that you need to seek the approval of a bunch of bitter neck beards who don't even like video games.
For God's sake, pirate it or watch footage on YouTube and figure it out for yourself. You KNOW /v/ will shit on this game because they have a hate boner for anything new because they, like you, are insecure with their own opinions.
>>335792756
>DaS3 has NG+ content. Play the game before you spout nonsense.
>>335789663
How easy is it to co-op with a friend?
Can I do some sort of offline configuration so I can avoid invader-shitters, and just set up a Hamachi dealio with a friend so that I can guarantee it's just them and I playing?
>>335792756
>DaS3 has NG+ content
Oh yeah, +1 and +2 versions of rings that give 1-2% bonus compared to standard versions and a whopping 1 (one) weapon is a lot of NG+ content.
>>335792827
>i'll just greentext and post a reaction image
Thanks for the great argument.
>>335792756
that fedoras outta control
>>335792997
>adding +rings means content
alright mate
>>335792992
>1-2%
>being objectively wrong
>liking a shitty game.
Just get the fuck out son.
>>335793129
literally nothing compared to 2 even DeS has more shit in ng+ just kys.
It's actually GOTY easily. 10x better than the shit show that was DS2.
Pros:
>Memorable bosses
>Lots of tie ins from previous games (Both good and bad)
>Beautiful and HUGE levels
>Tons of secrets some of which give are giant areas that you easily could've missed.
>Lots of different ways to both end the game and change how you do "quests".
>Lots of new weapon infusions giving you tons of customization. Lots of armour combos too.
>You will get your moneys worth if you enjoyed the other souls games. I have 38 hours and I think I am 3/4 of the way done. Only about 2-3 hours is just invading, most of it is meticulously exploring each area and I KNOW I've missed things.
>If you play it blind you'll get the same feel you had with Dark Souls.
>Best graphics of all PC games because its not a port.
>No game breaking glitches thus far (Also you include invading or multiplayer)
Cons:
>Poise sucks.
>Multiplayer is still not the best. Sometimes you'll invade and people are literally just skimming around without animations due to lag. But I will say its the BEST multiplayer experience across all Souls games.
>There is almost too much content from previous games. This can be annoying to those who have played EVERY souls game and Bloodborne.
>There are a lot of bonfires but if you don't use summons like a pussy you'll still have a challenge in most areas.
Overall I like it just as much as the original Dark Souls and I'd give it a 9/10 shits fucking awesome. There are very few games I don't mind dropping $80 on. And this is one of them.
>>335793129
he is right you idiot. only steel protection and fire resist and serpent rings and useless poise rings do not give only 1+% extra.
>>335788398
DaS3 = BB > DaS > DeS >>>> hot garbage >>> shit >>> vomit and shit >>>> "dark souls" 2
>>335793027
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>>335788729
OP, just stop and accept that the Souls series is literally CoD, "AAA" mainstream, dewrito promotional, "hardcore leet" trash at this point.
And just wait until the next niche game series comes out and love it to death for as much as you can in the first 2-3 months before it gains a following of noscope epinmemebro faggots that make it "popular" for all the wrong reasons.
No trolling either, and to anyone that replies and disagrees, well, you're that faggot that I'm talking about.
>>335793220
>every absorption ring gives 7% extra +2
>lingering dragoncrest gives 10% extra +2
>sage ring +10 virtual dex +2
Sure, RoF and Cloranthy could use a boost but most rings are fine.
>>335793391
You have actually terrible taste.
>>335793129
>>liking a shitty game.
hwat
>>335788398
You can literally go to lothric castle before killing vordt.
>>335793659
And that's literally all you can do, unlike Demons and Dark Souls 1 and 2.
>>335793461
>I play games based on if they're popular or not
Grow up dude, play games you think are fun. Who gives a fuck how big of a following it has?
>>335793461
This.
DaS3 is loved by normies and neo /v/ who actually thing the game is hard.
Being able to change covenants on the fly is the best addition they've made to this series. Even though they all don't work sunbros, Aldrich faithful and mound makers are still fun as fuck.
Its way better than 2. If you like the series you will love the game.
>>335793682
>dark souls 1 AND 2
>dark souls 2
Really? Heides tower is barely an area.
Wharf just connects you to an area you'd end up in when you go to forest of fallen giants.
There is no real options in DS2, the path is laid out as fuck and you're to stupid to see it.
>>335791640
Is this a ruse? I'm at work, can't try it right now.
>>335793726
Sure is harder than das 1 and 2 atleast.
>fromdrones will defend this
>>335793682
Lel DeS was designed completely different level wise compared to dark souls. Dark Souls 1 goes to shit after anor londo and dark souls 2 is literally walking straight down a hallway until you get to a bonfire then warp to another hallway.
Dark Souls 3 is the only one to stay consistently good until the finish.
>>335794034
DELETE THIS
>>335793682
>you can literally only kill 5 out of 19 bosses out of order
Killing 25% of the bosses out of order is plenty. Plus you can go to Archdragon Peak as soon as you beat Deacons. Sequence breaking in DaS1 was just skipping the baby-tier bosses like Taurus, Capra demons and Gaping Dragon. Never played DeS or cared enough to sequence break in DaS2.
>>335793867
>>335794039
3 has less options.
Are you people retards?
>>335789707
I'm not that anon, but making the game easy just because you make it through with a friend is not a valid bad point IMO.
The only thing important is how fun it can be.
I mean, I STILL do casual runs of DaS1 with my friends even tho both me and some of them already beat NG+7 as a SL1, just because the game is so good and fun.
>>335787017
Its pretty bad. I bought it on launch day because I love souls games. Didnt even play it for a week.
> Bosses are way too easy. Beat them all 2-3rd try.
> Game is only about 8 hours long. Second run you can finish the game in 2 hours.
> Quests are all messed up. I stuck to a guide on my 2nd playthrough to finish the quests, I still failed them because the NPCs are shit
> shields are obsolete thanks to bloodborne dodging
> feels like a mix of bloodborne and ds2
> hard to join covenants, you have to talk to some npc for one and he went aggro on me so i couldnt join the covenant. this is where i stopped playing out of frustration
> end boss is really boring
> doesnt have any of the magic of ds1, something is just missing
> overpowered on second playthrough already. I didnt grind and I am wayyy too powerful. One hit every enemy and never die. slice thru bosses like butter
> weapons are rather boring. Bloodborne made me want to try out all the weapons, ds3 just makes me want to use katana all the time
> this game turned me off of RPGs so hard that I switched to playing FPS games now.
poise is gone, armour is gone, invading is gone, it's basically a sp/coop game now
>>335789540
>not a single closed loop in DS3
Shameful.Graph theory proves DaS to be the best game.
>>335787017
If you don't like PvP there isn't much left in terms of PvE after you've beat the game a few times. PvP is where it gets its longevity, this time around you have to "git gud" as they say because as an invader you're almost always outnumbered.That feeling when you solo a gank squad is incredible though.Also the game has a lot of shitty areas that are pretty grating to get through.I don't know if you're actually trying not to buy it or if this is a joke thread or what but honestly I love this game despite its flaws, I think most others will probably like it too.
>>335794294
>4 optional areas
>6 optional bosses
>Dancer sequence break
>can choose do to first Deacons or AB, first Yhorm or Aldrich
>hurr the game is so linear
I see alot of people on the Steam forums complaining about getting banned. Apprently you can get banned if you:
• Intentionally disconnect from the network during online play
• Use or exploit any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to or use of the Game or to gain an unfair advantage over other players of the Game.
Also some faggot in the Steam reviews is claiming a cheater can get you banned and it has tons of people agreeing. Yet, in 60 hours of playtime I have never seen a cheater.
anybobdy got banned yet?
>>335794039
> Dark Souls 1 goes to shit after anor londo
I'm tired of hearing this nonsense specially since Anor Londo can be the third area you play if you want.
I won't defend LI, but everything else is excellent.
>>335794682
I meant 4th
>>335794662
Haven't seen any cheaters yet but I have seen a large amount of people DCing in the middle of PvP, usually when they're about to lose. I hope those cunts get banned.
>>335791438
You can poise-break HAVEL on the rooftop in Archdragon Peak by hitting him with a straight sword. Poise is non-existent.
It was kinda linear and one bossfight freezes the screen for a second or two on ps4 sometimes. One boss was really disappointing and some covenants don't work.
Those are all my complaints, really.
>>335794682
Duke's Archives is good, ToG is merely ok. They're still weaker than the first part of the game. The DLC is legit god tier though.
100 hours in and not a single cheater
I also disconnected a few times because its annoying to "pause - menu - quit - wait for logos - wait for menu - quit again" so I just press alt+f4 sometimes. Not banned yet (maybe because I don't dc during pvp).
Does anyone have a strategy for beating the Fire Demon by the Abandoned tomb bonfire in Carthus Catacombs, I try strafing under his legs but dude just either stomps ( which I attempt to roll) or swings me when I recover.
>>335794747
Technically 6th, because you walk through 20 feet of New Londo and Valley of the Drakes .
>>335794614I'm honestly trying not to buy it, I'm already over the sum I allow myself to spend on game for next month.
>>335794894
meant to
>>335794662
>>335794905
My finest strategy
Buy it. It literally has the best bosses of any souls game.
The watchers
Pontiff
The twins
Nameless
The champ
Soul of cinder
I'll probably get shit on but I genuinely believe that those are the best bosses From has ever made.
>>335794489
>Bosses are too easy
Congrats, you're good. Killing bosses on early tries just means you know how to play.
>A game's length is directly related to quality
Ok I took 30 hours on my first playthrough and missed 3 bosses. 2nd playthrough killed all in 25 hours. So that means its good!
>Quests are messed up
Yeah some NPCs are messed up, some of them look like they were fixed in this last patch.
>Shields absolete
wut
>Feels like BB+DaS2
This is bad why?
>Hard to join covenants
ok so this is bait now
>boring final boss
An opinion
>something is just missing
No it's just not your first souls game anymore
>OP on NG+
oh no! If you really want that much of a challenge then gimp yourself
>boring weapons
another opinion
>had to switch genres
quality bait.
>>335793027
That's literally what Das2 did, you fucking retard. Adding in some shitty red phantoms around the shitty map doesn't count as adding content.
>>335794034
>People literally think the poise was just "disabled" and use a video of poise being extremely broken as evidence
nice meme
>>335794905
Get him to agro the mimic if you want the retarded strat. The mimic fucks him up. Otherwise strafe left, keep some distance and attack when he recovers.
>>335794905
stop being shit
>>335794905
roll around him punishing single strikes or his Greatest Combustion, smack that tail, use the corpse piles as cover from the meteor swarm
>>335787017
>SUMMONING FAILED
>CONNECTION ERROR, RETURNING TO YOUR WORLD
>Almost everyone you PVP will be in a ganksquad
>Some enemies have genuinely no weakness or technique to them other than take a single hit and wait 4-7 attacks for them to open up to another hit again, thoroughly unfun to play
>Most of the NPCs are lifeless and boring as fuck compared to the ones in Bloodborne, ESPECIALLY the waifu of this game. She literally only has a few lines of dialogue over the course of the entire game.
>Most areas are really not as enjoyable as you hope them to be.
>A few shit gimmick bosses, including one of the most key bosses in the game
It's okay.
>>335793726
And DaS2 is liked by literal retards with shit taste.
>>335790113
Different anon. Not that I'm too bothered about it but I'd say I've invaded a minimum of 100 times and I've only had a 1 v 1 fight with a host a handful of times, I'd say 10 at the most. Out of those around half of them didn't even fight me, they just stood their after I'd caught them an accepted death.
>>335794946
Fair enough, if you're on PC I suppose you can always play it for < 2 hrs, see if you like it and if not get a refund. Once you're in it'll probably be for the long haul, I've played since release and am at 84 hours so far, so you'll probably get a lot of playtime out of it. Up to you though. Like a lot of people say, it's not perfect (and in some places it's pretty shit) but overall it's still a great game.
>>335791469
More bosses, enemies, NPC's and areas don't mean shit if they're all fucking boring.
Oh boy, I love having a boss every 5 minutes that holds no weight and is boring as fuck with a forgettable theme and soundtrack
Oh boy, I love all these NPC's that have questlines that literally go nowhere, haha it's so cool that the blacksmith never talks to his daughter that's 5 feet away
>dude lmao let's give every single enemy and boss huge lunge attacks
>let's make all player like enemies have infinite stamina and super aggressive which forces you to fight them all defensively or just go for the parries.
>Let's have enemies all be able to break out of combos on the 2nd hit unless you straight swords which will allow you power through anyway
Probably my biggest gripes with the game. Also the disgusting amounts of enemy tracking in this game.
>>335794905
>>335795098
I'm retarded, wrong fire demon
pretty sure it's the same strategy though, keep rolling in circles, or use the terrain - aggro all the skeletons and they'll destroy him
>>335787017
The first boss you fight transforms into a giant monster who still moves as quickly as his tiny former self, as if it has absolutely no weight
A physical impossibility, that both ruins immersion and tricks the player into getting fucked harder than he should were it real life
I dropped it right there. If the FIRST boss is that half baked, and the bosses are supposedly the best part, fuck it
>Des>Das/Das3>BB>>>>>Das2
Das2 was so shit i didnt play past the first boss. the intro section is awful, the graphics are terrible (granted armor models were decent).
i played an equal amount of that as i did lords of the fallen. shit tier game
>>335795042
see you never played DaS2 you fucking retard DaS2 even added new boss souls in ng+ KILL YOURSELF
Although it is a sequel and I appreciate some recurring things, especially since they can't reinvent the wheel, there are some enemies and even NPCs that are just a copy paste and this feels lazy, has no logical explanation in terms of lore and exist just for pandering.
Another negative point is balance.
>>335795108
But Yoel and Yuria and Anri and Horace have the most interesting quests in the whole series.
>>335795243
>disgusting amounts of enemy tracking
It's nowhere near as bad as DaS2. Those Cathedral knights seem to be the worst offenders but they're pretty rare enemies.
>>335795243
>Let's have enemies all be able to break out of combos
I used UGS and Gaxes and only the pontiff knights and spear / greatsword Lothric knights could do that
>>335788528
>bosses too ez this is boring
>last (LAST) boss is too difficult ima summon this is boring
Damned if you do damned if you don't.
>>335794761
I never disconnect but I get these sometimes
>SUMMONING FAILED
>CONNECTION ERROR, RETURNING TO YOUR WORLD
>>335795271
It's a magic monster. Plus it clearly has to wind up to attack, making your point invalid.
People who love souls games simply do not value their time and like to circlejerk online
Prove me wrong
>>335795243
Nice meme, all enemies without an exception have windows for you to attack. You're just trying to justify you being bad by blaming the game.
>>335794682
Duke's is great, but ToG is bullshit.
>>335794770
Can you read
You can create a videogame with those saved 100> hours.
>>335795307
You're right actually. I think i'm just buttblasted about how fucking awful the firekeeper was.
>>335795451
It literally moves like a half programmed shitty video game NPC
There is no excuse, they probably realized it after designing the boss but said fuck trying to fix it
>>335795408
Nah, most of them can actually. It's just that there's a lot of them are too slow to actually do anything. Then you have enemies like Dark Wraiths and silver knights that have attacks specifically to counter that(that jump back slash)
>>335788293
It's what Dark Souls 2 should have been
>>335787017
pirate it.
>>335795453
I like souls games and I'm in these threads only for the occasional cool picture.
Besides, if you valued your time you wouldn't be on 4chan and you wouldn't be playing video games.
>>335795291
Oh right, the boss souls to forge more of those plastic looking piece of shit weapons. Great content dude, simply epic. People who like das2 should literally kill themselves.
>>335795831
I disagree. I felt Iudex movements fit it's design.
>was going to 100% the game
>need tons of covenant items from covenants that are dead/not functional
>need +1 and +2 versions of rings that only drop in NG++
>need to follow every cryptic questline with 20 requirements each because some of them award rings/gestures that are completely missable
no thanks.
>>335795819
True. You don't even get a reason why Firekeepers are blind in this one, do you?
>>335795307
I immensely disagree. That shit doesn't even make sense and they were all boring characters.
>>335795243
>disgusting amounts of enemy tracking in this game
I don't think it matters because you can simply dodge their attacks
>>335796184
Seems like you didn't actually want to 100% the game, then.
Why is this shit still here for PC?
>>335796028
The fact that boss soul weapons are so shit is kind of a turn off.
>Beat the dancer
>Holy shit I can get the dark fire double swords she used? That's awesome!
>Huh, one is purple and magic instead off dark. Not as good since everyone is resistant to magic, but whatever, let's roll with it
>Aaaaand everything has a D scaling. Well, maybe if I get it to +5 it'll be fine
>Nope, still shit
>>335796185
Seems to me that the game makes it pretty obvious that she can see the coming age of dark, and it has a tempting effect
That begs the question as to why firekeepers only needed to be blind in 3 but at least there's an explanation
>>335787017
It is inferior to both previous games in every way aside from Graphics and multiplayer. It's particularly shitty when compared to 2 since it tries so hard to copy elements from it but fails miserably at all of them.
Also the story is gay, there are no good NPCs, the voice acting is notably worse than every other FROM game of this genre, and it's cringe fest of cameos. There's also only like 6 enemy types. At least it seems that way.
Worth playing? Yes.
For $60? kek no.
>>335796323
It's supposed to represent the Unkindled One's hesistance to venture outside into the horrible world again, duh.
>>335791149
>its bad
>no arguments
>somehow calls someone else a retard
Okay.
>>335796323
I imagine so that firelink loads faster, since 90% of the time you go there you never leave the interior anyways
Also if you aren't running the game off of an SSD, you're just as bad as consolefriends
It's good
>>335796423
>the story is gay
Your mom is gay.
>>335794624
Da1 was still much less linear. Not counting Asylum Demon, your first boss fight could be against
>Taurus Demon
>Quelaag
>Bell Gargoyles
>Capra Demon
>Hydra
>Sif
>Moonlight Butterfly
That's seven different possibilities with the master key. You can
>>335796423
>It's particularly shitty when compared to 2
It's 2 if 2 wasn't a massive piece of shit
>>335796418
>First firelink fire keeper has eyes
>After seeing the coming age of dark, she understands how futile linking the fire is
>All subsequent firekeepers are kept blind to prevent their fall into dark
>>335796587
Sure, but claiming DaS 3 is linear is just not true. And the individual level design is probably the most open in the series.
>>335796587
I'm curious, how do you skip Taurus and go straight to undead parish? Is it through lower undead burg or something?
>>335796629
2 actually might be my favorite of the series. Whatever autism keeps people from enjoying it has no effect on me. Largest amount of content, really great lore and best designed NPC interaction. Only Bloodborne does most things better than DS2, but that's not part of the series.
>>335788398
What the fuck is that taste? DaS3 is literal shit compared to Bloodborne.
>>335787017
There is wincest between two brothers and one is a qt fem-boi
Wait, that's a good thing
>>335796491
But I am, that's why it's annoying for me.
>>335796830
Sounds you have some really shitty taste then
>>335796814
Master key>valley of drakes>darkroot garden.
>>335796909
I am too. The load times are a bit ridiculous
I just had a pretty cool boss experience.
Summoned a guy called guts who basically looked like guts with a giant greatsword and a naked guy with a dragon head with nothing else equiped beside a big ass shield.
The naked guy would tank and stand infront of the boss as he attacked the guys shield in the same position while two great swords were going at him.
Pretty cool imo and I'm instered in that naked guys build, he attacked with the shield as well.
>>335788398
BB>DaS>DeS>DaS3>>>>>>>DaS2
FTFY
>>335797146
That's the dragon head/torso stones. By equipping them you can "gain the head/body of a dragon" and use some unique abilities. I've encountered them a few times in PvP and I always seem to kill them immediately in 2 hits, don't know if the stones are shit or if it was just the players.
>>335796830
It was only considered bad because
>the final product was a graphical downgrade, which threw people for a loop
>the 1.0 vanilla version had some glaring issues, all fixed at one point or another
>the game was too easy, fixed in later patches and with expansions
>it generally didn't look or feel like DaS, which is what people were expecting
SotFS, the definitive edition of the game, is a great game
I'm just not enjoying pyromancy as much as I did in DS2
Maybe it's the lack of variety, the toned down spells or the fact that I can get stun lock killed in 3 hits by a straightsword
Why?I miss forbidden Sun, swathe and fire snake
>>335797268
The stones force you to remove all armor and give you a modest increase in defense in return. It's a pretty bad trade-off
Also, the attacks you get via dragon transformation kind of suck
>>335796091
not its actual fucking fighting movements, just its movements in general, it could literally turn on a dime, as if it was a gas, but magically wasnt at all effected by air
made the game seem tacky and half baked as fuck
>>335797360
You're playing the same fucking game for the fourth, maybe fifth time. It was bound to get boring at some point.
>>335797268
Does using them mean it counts as not wearing armor? Because if that's the case they're missing out on a chunk of damage reduction just for wearing armor plus longer stuns
>>335797301
Yeah nah, there's a lot of shit wrong with the game that has been said here over and over. I don't feel like typing that shit again to be honest.
>>335797301
It was also bad because of it's nonsensical geography, it's shitty boss and enemy variety and uninteresting NPCs and lore. SoTFS also just randomly throws more enemies into areas and is hardly an improvement. DLCs were good, though.
>>335797379
I still stand by what I said. I honestly don't understand how you dropped the entire game for this, even if I did agree with your point.
>>335797301
>SotFS, the definitive edition of the game, is a great game
Animations are still janky as fuck, the beginning is far too slow and the plot is still a massive fucking slop. Not to mention tripping over bonfires and the uninspired bosses.
SotFS still feels like a fucking fan game. No quality of life changes will fix that.
>>335797710
because the boss can defy physics unlike anything besides a video NPC could do, just to spin around impossibly fast and kill you
aint nobody got time fo dat
>>335797360
Chaos bed vestiges is forbidden sun, fire snake is back as a black pyromancy and swathe is now profaned flame, IIRC.
Only problem is that every spell in this game is useless in pvp and any none-orb pyromancy is worthless in comparison. Plus the fact you can't double infuse/enchant any more sucks.
>>335795271
It has to be the same weight otherwise you would freeze to death as it transforms.
>>335797980
I just looked at footage from the fight and I honestly don't know what you mean. I honestly do not see what awful animations you are talking about.
>>335787017
It's significantly better then previous 2 games, especially when it comes to atmosphere, level design, enemy and boss design and things like that, except in one major detail - retarded balance. They doubled the speed of most enemies, and some bosses are insanely fast and aggressive while leaving little room for free attacks, yet they have just copy-pasted weapons with their movesets and speeds from the previous much slower games. This + lack of proper poise system leads to weapons like straight swords outperforming everything, dealing more dps than greataxes and ultra-greatswords while being much safer to use because of their speed. Offensive magic is a joke and borderline useless except for buff spells. Stronger spells take ages to cast even with special gear and most enemies can easily hit you before you get a single cast off, and faster spells like farron darts deal less damage than hitting with fists or broken weapons. Most infusions are garbage, you can use raw and fire early game somewhat decently, but late game your only options are one of three main scaling paths. All this other stuff just extremely gimps you. For example even if you're a 100% int focused character, a crystal infusion at +10 and 50 intelligence deals less then half the damage that same weapons would deal if it was just uninfused or raw and then buffed with great magic weapon or crystal magic weapon.
>Come into thread
>Already completed game
>Wasn't too bad it looks like BB, feels like a Souls game
>A few great bosses,Some ehh bosses
>Can beat most of bosses doing jack shit and summoning 2 phantoms
>Anyway, read through the thread so far
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>"Shitty opinion" being thrown around by both sides
>What can you expect when the thread is about telling OP to not buy the game
>This quite possibly this is the biggest DS3 sucks bait i ever seen
>MFW
>>335796491
Not him but I have it on an ssd as well.
I don't think it's loading anything. Even loading like huge areas never lasts as long as those fogwalls are up.
And they come back up if you don't go through them when they're gone after a while.
Really fucking weird, I just wanna get my tree seeds quickly but I guess I gotta wait like 30 seconds
>>335798185
He's probably just ass blasted that he couldn't effectively beat the first (easy) boss.
>>335798435
I agree on the bosses. This is fucking dark souls, gameplay was supposed to be somewhat slow and methodical, not dmc with a really bad camera. But hey, it's hard right, and that's what you really want.
>>335799041
I dunno, I'm trying to understand his point but he fails to give me an explanation.
>>335798737
>giving a shit about what /v/ thinks of a game
>/v/ of all people
>not sticking to your own fucking opinion and enjoying the games you like
>>335798121
Profane flame, vestiges and the snake are really lame compared to what they are become
Profaned flame in particular is just pitiful now
>>335797560
>it's shitty boss and enemy variety
Are you really gonna bring bosses up in a DaS3 thread, a game with less than 20 bosses, half of them being super-easy gimmick fights, and the other being "fast guy tries to rush you down"? Come on now
>>335788398
Shift DeS to the bottom and you're good.
>>335799208
https://youtu.be/ceHf4o65EO4
its just shit
did we even play the same game?
