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Legion Pre-Expansion Event


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>We are still learning more about the event, but here is what we know about the portion that takes place in the city so far:
>Players in Stormwind or Orgrimmar will randomly hear whispers offering them untold power for their services.
>Players then have 5 abilities and 9 stacks of Frail Mind.
>Turn Ally - Impart Dark Whispers into the mind of an ally after 10 sec. Using this ability will out you as an ally of the Legion for 15 sec. Removes one stack of Frail Mind.
>When you are visible as an ally of the Legion, the guards will attack you.
>Cloak of Darkness - Vanish into the darkness for 20 sec.
>Hysteria - Cause hysteria in a group of targets, making them fight with allies for 10 sec. Using this ability will out you as an ally of the Legion for 15 sec. Does not affect targets that have been recently marked.
>Illusionary Guise - Take on the guise of a target. This includes most NPCs, even High Overlord Saurfang.
>Once all 9 stacks of Frail Mind are removed, you can use Give In To Darkness and become a Dreadlord for a minute!
>Unfortunately it looks like the event will be easy to opt out of, as you can right click to cancel the whispers.
>Other plays cannot see the whispers buff on you.
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I like that they have to leak it otherwise no one would be in stormwind of orgrimmar.
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>>335772973
Wow! A whole minute!
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>>335772973
>all that bullshit just to be a dreadlord for one minute

Sounds gay like everything in modern WoW
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>>335772973
Don't forget SW is getting it's park back, but as a memorial for Varian
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>>335772973
I thought that the Nostalrious fiasco is the pre-expansion event, with Blizzard showcasing corruption as a nod to the Legion.
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>>335772973
lame, sounds like a copy of the scourge event, only that you can opt out
come up with something new blizzard
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>>335775846
>lame, sounds like a copy of the scourge event

With a million players leaving to play a quite literal copy of Vanilla, and another million scattered on other private servers playing BC or WotLK, I don't think its surprising Blizzard tries to give them some good old to come back.

>remember the scourge event? well we have it again! $15 a month!
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>>335776757
the difference is that people on private servers want to play a completely different game, while blizzard just recycles things either out of laziness or for some cheap nostalgia cash in
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>>335776845
Private servers ARE nostalgia cash ins.
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>>335772973
>"Lets recapture the pre-expansion event from WotLK that people keep talking about, but only make it "fun" for everyone!"
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>>335776915
no
first they don't cash in if they don't make any money
second, that's like saying distributing an old game is a nostalgia cash in
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>>335777149
All the private servers that have more than 200 people playing have ways to monetize.
Running one costs money, so naturally people try to make it self sustainable, and then inevitably profitable.
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>>335777215
>All the private servers that have more than 200 people playing have ways to monetize.
no
nostalrius didn't earn any money and there are tons of other servers that don't either
stop talking shit fuckboi
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>>335777387
>nostalrius didn't earn any money

Nostalrius quite literally sold gold for dollars, on their web page.
Thats why they got shut down. You are uninformed.
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>>335777464
>Nostalrius quite literally sold gold for dollars, on their web page.
that's a blatant lie
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>>335777564
True, it was on a separate web page. My bad.
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>>335772973
Literally no one cares about Legion, it's pretty sad. Blizzard dun goofed with WoD.
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DARKNESS
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>>335778824

Because it wasn't done by them, can't really stop that from happening - blizz couldn't either and goldfarming is a legit business in china thanks to it.
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>blizzard will never make an event like this again
>"m-muh poor players who only log in for 30 minutes per month, because they have to take care of their wife's son"
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>>335781356

CALLED
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>>335772973
So it's a Facebook tier rollercoaster event for two minutes, or perpetual for a few weeks, like the pre-WOTLK event? Sounds very... contained, with no spilling.
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>>335782305

God forbid the event disrupts the 14-month long routine. Wouldn't want people do experience something different for a fraction of a fraction of their playtime
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But my character hates the Legion, why would I become their ally?
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>>335777464
>Nostalrius quite literally sold gold for dollars, on their web page.
>Thats why they got shut down. You are uninformed.
Not true at all. Fuck off Blizzard shill.
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>>335784686

You STILL don't understand that everything that ever happens is because of CORRUPTION?
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>>335784740
>blizzard decides for me whether my RP character is corruptable or not

Fuckin' hell.
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Does anyone remember the pre wotlk event? That shit was kinda fun
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>>335778824
cause goldfarmers did the actual goldfarming, just like is the case with retail wow or every other MMO
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>>335784953

What do your sexual preferences have to do with your moral alignment?
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>>335785053
I don't play on RP servers for the E
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>>335784953
>not just right clicking off the buff because you hate fun
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>>335785186
The problem is Blizzard thinks it's okay to decide for me whether or not my character is corruptable in the first place, from an RP standpoint.
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>>335776990
fucking "fun" has killed the gaming industry. you can't define fun so they usually just go for "easy and flashy".

they're trying to make stuff that appears organically and on accident happen synthetically and purposefully
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>people thinking scourge event was pre WotLK and not pre naxx
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>335778824
Also a lie. Nice backpeddling you corporate shill.
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>>335785291
They're talking about the plague event. The Pre-Naxx Scourge Invasion event was brought back for WoTLK.
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>>335772973
So It's basically confirmed that the big bad of Legion is gonna be an Old God?
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>>335785217

>RP players
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>>335785354
Why do you say that?

It's probably Azshara pretending to work for the Legion, but anyone who knows about the lore knows she's secretly working for the Old Gods and using the Legion as a tool in their name.
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>>335785217
>Blizzard thinks it's okay to decide for me

No, you decide. That's why you can right click the buff.
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>>335785398
>Dragonslayers and pvpbabbies

You are playing an MMORPG

RP is part of the G ;)
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>>335785442
No the problem is you get the choice to become corrupted, as if you were corruptable in the first place. NOT EVERYONE IS CORRUPTABLE BLIZZARD STOP WITH THIS LAZY ASS FUCKING WRITING.
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>>335785443
>RP is part of the G ;)

I guess you'll need to tell Blizzard that :^)
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>>335785217
when people give you the buff it's literally just "hey bro want some sick powers? all you have to do is renounce your faith and turn to the daaaark siiiide"
right clicking is literally a "no thank you"
>>335785484
>IMPLYING THAT WHOEVER IS DOING THE CORRUPTING IS GOING TO TRY WITH YOU ANYWAY
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>>335785586
not going to try, rather.
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>>335785586
An uncorruptable person shouldn't hear such whispers in the first place/
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>>335785484
>as if you were corruptable in the first place

From a creative standpoint, this is actually better.

Any time a character is faced with and chooses to resist temptation, it is always more interesting than simply being immune to it because. The struggle and triumph is what gives a character depth.

So in this instance, you are actually arguing in favor of lazy writing by saying "These guys are immune to any temptation because they are awesome and amazing."
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>>335785728
How do you know my character hasn't been played for over 10 years and has become uncorruptable as a result?
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Reminder that the amazing TBC community is what killed events like that.
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>Guards will attack you
>People can literally walk into enemy towns and solo everything because of the inflated states on PvP gear

Oh no whatever will I do
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>>335785782
Nothing is uncorruptable
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>>335785782

At no point has it ever been stated your characters are immune from any kind of otherwordly influence, demonic or otherwise. That's not up to you, it's up to the writers who decide the rules of the world. Look at the whispers of C'thun, or the abilities of the Sha of Doubt.

Your characters are not world striding gods or paragons of purity - they're random shitters who'll do anything if you pay them. The actually powerful characters are guys like Tirion Fordring.
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>>335785723
"Hey bro you want sick demon powers? HEY BRO YOU WANT SICK DEMON POWERS? ...hey dude are you ignoring me?"
"What, of course not! I'd never ignore a fellow champion of the Alliance/Horde!"
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>>335781869
The amount of whine scourge event caused is undeniable proof that playerbase was already rotten to the core in BC.
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>>335777149
I would absolutely argue distributing an older game again is one of the most blatant 'nostalgia cash ins' you can possibly do- see the nintendo virtual console and 'remastered' anything
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>>335785809
How so?
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>>335786238
are you implying redistribution is bad?
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>>335778824
embarassing shill
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>>335786352
Are you one of those nostalgianiggers who claim that everything used to be better but didnt play back then?

The WOTLK launch event at the end of TBC was cancelled early on because the playerbase bitched REALLY hard.
People were offended because they couldnt idle in Stormwind and Orgrimmar all day.

After that Blizzard never tried something like that again.
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How do you guys think WoW will all end? I'm guessing the sleeping titan in Azeroth's core is going to wake up
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>>335776990
>Remember the WoTLK pre-release event! Wasn't that a blast! Too bad shitters whined and Blizzard will never do something like that again.

>They do something like that again

>Endless bitching about how it's not good enough or how it's a rehash

I wish cognitive dissonance was deadly so you'd all fuck off forever.
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>>335785291
Still have the tier 2 paladin purple knock off
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>>335785861
what about Thrall
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>>335786494
I still got 5 haunted mementos on diff alts. the amount of fucking people thinking I am dumb enough to throw them a rare as fuck item is amazing.
I wonder if they do something similar.
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>>335787040
well at the time people didnt think it would be rare.
I still have mine too.
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>>335787102
no one knew about it before the masses complained and only then did they really start whining that never got a chance to get it.
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>We explored options for developing classic servers and none could be executed without great difficulty. If we could push a button and all of this would be created, we would. However, there are tremendous operational challenges to integrating classic servers, not to mention the ongoing support of multiple live versions for every aspect of WoW.
Loving
every
laugh
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>>335775136
this is really neat
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>>335775136
We need more alliance architecture.

I'm a horde player but its shitty to just see alien or orc shit for almost a decade.

I mean, its kinda understandable. In vanilla we had Azeroth and that had its human areas, and in shit like TBC its obviously different, but still.
I wanna see more castles and shit.
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>>335787390

In general, there needs to be more non-human Alliance buildings and non-Orc Horde buildings.

I remember Vengeance Landing as being really cool because it was uniquely Forsaken, without just being dilapidated buildings or crypts.
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>>335786238
where is the cash in when they are not taking any money for it?
then ROM sites are all blatant nostalgia cash ins
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>>335773091
This
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>He still plays retail
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>>335789247

>before you reply further I start insanely farting your mouth.
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>>335772973
You know, at this point, shouldn't you stop playing WoW for good? The last 30 Months you guys had one expansion and one additional content patch
But blizzdrones never wise up, you will not get what you want, because blizzard does not need to give you anything more than utter trash
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>>335786506
>Too bad shitters whined and Blizzard will never do something like that again
>They do something like that again
>Except they've caved in to the shitters that whined
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>>335772973

>Opt out
And that's where my hype died. I fucking love to tease and bully people.

Fucking safe spaces these days.
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>>335789381
>*it was a hologram*
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Legion isn't out yet?
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>>335789606
Is it August 30? If not, no.
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>>335789459
They literally only made engaging in the mini-game itself opt-out, as in you don't have to try to become a dread lord if you don't want to. Learn how to read.
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>>335775136
>entire park dedicated to metzen's self insert
lmao
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>/v/, once again, turns anthills into mountains
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>>335789606
Yeah it's out right now haven't you seen all the videos?
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>>335790079

I thought that was Thrall?
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>Varian gets an in-game funeral
>Cairne didn't
>There are some people that STILL don't know he's dead, let alone know the difference between him and his son
I'm fucking sick and tired of this bias bullshit.
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>>335790274
literally a cow
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>being a retailcuck
>2016

LMAO, can't make this up
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>>335790274

He has a ingame funeral from what I recall, the Tauren questline.
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>>335790489
Nope, he doesn't, you just go there to kill some quilboars and that's it. No fucking respect whatsoever shown to him
>One of the founders of Orgrimmar
>One of the original Horde leaders
>Killed off in a book
>None of the other leaders even attended his funeral, even Thrall
>His son's supposed to be built up to be this great leader but he never gets any screentime whatsoever, and when he does, it's exclusive to the books
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>>335787271
>few completely underfunded YouTube code writers can create a blizzlike vanilla server
>"it's too difficult to Impliment"
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>>335790274
>>335791035
Baine?
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>>335791279
>nostcucks still samefagging

jesus, just go level on kronos and shut the fuck up already.
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>>335791303
xD
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>>335775136
did humans always use norse runs as their written language? I thought that was a very dwarvish thing to do
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>>335791437
B-BUT IT'S NOT MY VERY SPECIFIC AND OUTDATED GAME THAT I WANTED
HOW WILL I APPEAL TO MY NOSTALGIA THEN?
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>this is going to save WoW, this time for sure!
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>>335791648
>WoW needs saving

spot the nostcuck
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>>335791437
>defending a company that can't out-engineer a rag tag team of month long programmers in their mothers basement
>doesn't know how to check poster count

Kill you'areself my man
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>>335791279
This isn't true btw senpai
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>>335791706
>10 million down to 3 in not even a year

Daily reminder that Retailcucks unironically pay 13€ a month for this. I wish I made this up
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>>335775136

Why isn't he buried next to his wife?
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>>335791753
>hates a company because they don't want to pander to loud neckbeards
>begs for a chance to suck their dick anyways

keep being a cuck my man
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>>335791706
Jokes on you, wow actually killed itself in the very end
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>>335791823
There's no body in there.
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>>335791806
Even if that were true, show me another mmo as big as WoW right now.

Didn't think so.

Anyway all your posterboys and armchair activists will be back for Legion anyways so it doesn't matter. People unsub when they're bored and resub when there's more content. You don't have to be such an absolutist just because you're a bored nostcuck who needs to twist reality
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>>335791648
Blizzard has the same problem that companies like Gamefreak have; They try to solely appeal to nostalgiafags who are never ever going to come back into the series no matter how hard they try to market towards them.
They'd be best if they just moved past them and ignored them.
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>>335791620
>want to play Mortal Kombat II for your old SNES?
>go for it! you paid for and own both, it's yours, play what you like

>want to play your old Warcraft game you bought and paid for?
>TOO FUCKING BAD FAGGOT TAKE OFF YOUR ROSE COLORED GLASSES AND TONE DOWN THE NOSTALGIA LOL YOU DONT REALLY WANT IT ANYWAY
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>>335791909
>They try to solely appeal to nostalgiafags
>Blizzard
>They try to solely appeal to nostalgiafags

What the actual fuck. In terms of lore maybe, but the game itself? It's a casual shitfest and every nostalgiafag despises it and Blizz makes it even worse every fucking year
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>>335791953
Maybe you're just dumb.
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>>335791880
>over 800 million in 2015
>over 700 million in 2014
>over a billion in 2013
>always on the top 10 list of most profitable online game
>all of valve's games combined don't beat WoW alone

keep telling yourself that, frienderino
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>>335791706
If Legion is WoD 2.0 WoW is going to die
No questions, it'll probably take a year or even more but after that the only time they will ever have subs is immediately after an expansion
and at that point, the game might as well be an episodic single player story focused title
and even now, I have to question why they haven't already made the jump
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>>335791035
It's not like Cairne was ever particularly active. It's been all about Green Moses and the Queen Bitch of the Universe since day one. Alliance only got Varian because Bolvar was literally who up until WotLK and they needed a hot head to keep the faction conflict going.

That said, Varian has always been a key plot element except during BC. His absence was a big plot driver during vanilla, and the kings of Stormwind have always been a central figure in Warcraft Lore. Usually their death, given the Great Grandpappy King Wrynn died the day the Orcs showed up, Grandpappy King Llane died during the first war, and now Varian dies at the onset of the latest Legion invasion. You would think Anduin would start sweating bullets about meeting a grisly death at the hands of more alien invaders.
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>>335791908
>Anyway all your posterboys and armchair activists will be back for Legion anyways
>anybody
>back for Legion
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>>335791953
WoW is an MMO. Maybe you should read your ToS before posting like a retard
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>>335791953
Blizzdrones: not even once
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>>335791831
>hates company for not pandering to loud neckbeards

As should their stockholders who only have 3 million subscribers left tops when the company has a sure thing to add at least a million more.

>begging for the chance

Am I begging or bitching? Let's keep the goalposts stationary shall we?
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>>335792014
It's not, just your own hate-fantasy
The only day WoW dies is when blizzard announces they're not making more content for it or WoW 2
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>>335791823
>How would you like your burial, famlam?
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>>335792014
>If Legion is WoD 2.0
>If
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>>335792126
>Am I begging or bitching?
Neither, you're whining.
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>>335792126
>only have 3 million subscribers

lmao, again even if that were true, you know how many MMOs out there would beg for 3 million subs?

>thing to add at least a million more.

You're deluded
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>>335792014
I can't wait for the next expac so people can say this again.
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>>335792186
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>nostcucks still think they're relevant

have fun with your circlejerk thread
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>>335792003
NO U XD

>>335792093
I don't care if it's an Egyptian hieroglyphic editor, I bought the game I should be able to play it. Especially if I'm not the only one and over a million other people (equivalent to at least 33% of their entire live subscription base) are wanting the same.
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>retailcucks fighting with Nostcucks

Both are pathetic as fuck. One for paying 14 bucks a month to getting cucked by Blizzard, the other one for WANTING go get cucked by Blizzard. KYS
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>>335792012
Oh dear you forgot to post the picture of the headstone with that copy/pasted statement, Mr. Shill. That's a 10 cent reduction in your pay for today.
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>>335792270
>I bought the game I should be able to play it

No you shouldn't, it's an online game that evolves. Deal with it

>over a million other people (equivalent to at least 33% of their entire live subscription base) are wanting the same.

Nice meme

I love how you guys just keep on making the number bigger every time
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>>335792186
DELETE THIS

RIGHT FUCKING NOW

BLIZZARD SAID IT WON'T BE LIKE WOD
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>>335786219
>The amount of whine scourge event caused is undeniable proof that the casual playerbase was already rotten to the core in BC.
Fixed.
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>>335792093

>tfw RuneScape offers the past versions and it never even required an initial purchase.

Honestly, no game with a monthly fee should require an initial entry fee. If I'm paying for your product, I should get a product that is mine to do with as I please. If I am buying a service, I should only be paying for the service.
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>>335792186
every time I see these screenshots I realize the horror more and more
This time it's the experience bars on the "champions"
why
I get leveling up your character
I get leveling up your weapon
but not these faggots
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This is now nostalgiafag shaming thread
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>>335792310
Triggered by facts? Nice
Keep spouting the same old shit that WoW is dying
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/v/ has too many shitposters and falseflaggers for its own good.
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>having a nice thread about Legion
>talking about Order Halls, bull prepping, artefact weapons and black breeding
>suddenly Nostfags show up and shit up the thread

EVERY

SINGLE

TIME

FUCKING STOP IT
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>>335791985
Thematically it's been for a while now
>People won't shut up about funny meme pandas from wc3?
>Here's an xpac about them go full chin chong ding dong all you like
>You guys wanted wc1-2?
>Time travel whatever, all so that you can hang out with your favorite dead orcs
>Edgy kids begging for playable demon hunters? Done
>Paladins crying for an ashbringer since the dawn of time? Here have it and tell your friends
Last three expansions were full pandering/fanservice mode. The last time Blizzard went their own way with things was Cataclysm.
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>>335792218
>even if that were true

Its probably far less. There were only 5 mil left when I quit again, and that was many months ago before a content drought. Its probably closer to 2.5, might spike back up to 5 for Legion if they're extremely lucky.

>you're deluded

Nost had a million people. And that's just a vanilla server. Add BC and Wrath? Easily a million people would return.
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>>335772973
good luck finding anyone in a town or city

LOL
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>>335792509
MoP was actually really good though, but /v/ will deny this because they didn't play it.
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>>335792510
>Its probably closer to 2.5, might spike back up to 5 for Legion if they're extremely lucky

If you say it it must be true I guess
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>>335775136
thats thrall
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They probably regret shutting down Nost. No matter where you look - every comment section of anything Legion related is getting shit on by salty Nostfags.
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>>335790248
One character wasnt enough to contain his ego.
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>Overwatch on the horizon, open beta soon or now, not sure which
>Warcraft MOVIE finally fucking happening this summer
>Fanservice: The Expansion pack on the way
>Google "Blizzard"
>Go to news
>Post YFW it's across the board Nostalrius and vanilla servers
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>>335792360
Nost had a million registered accounts. Blizzard has (generously) 3 million people playing WoD.

1/3 = 33.3% (repeating, of course, HUE)

If you think there are more than 3 mil on live with a content drought that's going to rival post-ICC you're retarded.
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>>335773091
why wouldn't they have to be in SW or Org? garrison gold nerf is in the pre-expac patch, and with it goes also any reason to be there
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>>335792691
>every nostplayer didn't play retail

your argument falls apart just with that

>If you think there are more than 3 mil on live with a content drought that's going to rival post-ICC you're retarded.

The burden of proof is on your end
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>>335792691
>Talking about registered accounts
Jesus Christ you're fucking pathetic.
WoW probably has over tens of thousands registered accounts.
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>>335791035
I feel your pain friend, Cairne was pretty fucking cool in WC3, and a nice contrast to Green Jesus's horde. The book death was pretty shitty too.
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>>335792427
Keep posting the same old image/stats in every single WoW thread Mr. Shill. I hope you're being paid well :)

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/%201461000365313/
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>>335792656
Or you can not take my word for it and do some basic arithmetic with the last few reported sub numbers before they stopped releasing them...
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>>335792681
I kno rite, poor blizzard is going bankrupt :(
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>>335792509
>cataclysm
>not being a pandering cluster fuck that killed the old world because people wanted to fly in Azeroth.
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>>335791953
thankfully private servers have been available since '05.
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>>335792605
>MoP was actually really good though
It _was_. Mostly because they had to actually put effort into that one, seeing how they didn't have much to work with except the concept of panda people.
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>>335792186

Fun fact: this facebook tier follower minigame is also present in Neverwinter and Star Trek Online, two shitty f2p MMO's published by a Chinese company.

This type of 'gameplay' is the absolute cheapest shit you can put in the game while still calling it content. Blizzard isn't implementing it because they think it's fun or anything, they do it because it saves them shit tons of money and work, and they know players will still eat it up.
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>>335792797
>only Nost players will return for Legacy servers

And there goes your argument.

>burden of proof is on you

They don't release them anymore, and I'm not an employee. The closest proof we have is taking the previous reports and doing some math. Feel free, you'll end up where I did.
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>>335792836
You're just stupid as fuck with your non-sequitur

Let's suppose you're right
>hurr there are only 2.5 million playing that means legion will be lucky to get 5 million players derr derr

how about you prove it other than your feelings and hate-fantasies

And btw, I find it really funny that we're talking about 5 million players as "only" 5 million players

There is literally no other MMO on the market with even a million players so you're bias and hate-fantasy is pretty clear. You're not going to win an argument like this
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>>335784953
My fellow moonguard brethren!
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>>335792921
that's not star trek though

that's swtor
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>>335792681
>it's actually true
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>>335792509
>The last time Blizzard went their own way with things was Cataclysm

>added worgen as a race, which makes no sense but was added solely because players had demanded them for a while

90% of the shit in Cata is completely forgotten, it was a complete filler expansion after Wrath.
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>>335792995
>>only Nost players will return for Legacy servers
>And there goes your argument.

You're not making sense
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>>335793021
No
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>>335792921
>players will eat it up

>literally losing 50% of your playerbase in not even 12 months
>"eat it up"
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>>335793021
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>>335793021
No, that's Star Trek.

Lergion looks to be aiming more for the TOR version where you have fewer people but they come with some story and shit.
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>>335793080
And WoD is a literal filler expansion, who would have thought.
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>>335792835
forgot your tom cruise
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>>335792509
>>You guys wanted wc1-2?
>>Time travel whatever, all so that you can hang out with your favorite dead orcs

This is complete bullshit on your part, nobody asked for WoD. Who gives a fuck about Garrosh or Gul'dan?

It's essentially an idea for a CoT instance they decided to make an expansion out of. Also it could segue into Legion.
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>>335784970
I literally spent hours chasing players across entire continents trying to infect them. I'm surprised there isn't a private server out there with this feature active 24/7.
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>>335787040
The invasion thing was extra and gave me a bunch of free purples to go into wrath
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>>335793294
What annoys me is that it was the perfect opportunity to reboot the timeline and let the players see and take part in the first War and for the Orcs to not be insufferable cunts about it. Instead we got lore figure loot pinatas all day every day.
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>>335785217
you are corruptible and any character you ever come up with is too
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>>335792256
>>335792159

See this pic? I went back to try my free 7 days that they give to returning players. This was at peak hours in the day. At 3 am est, there was only 1 server with enough people to be 'high'. This time they really did kill the game.
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>>335793294
>This is complete bullshit on your part
More like a misfire on Blizzard's part. The people that have whined about Turalyon and Alleria, for example, are real even though those two characters were never in WoW to begin with. It's just that these people ended up being another vocal meme minority that didn't know what they wanted anyway.
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>>335793147
oh my bad
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>>335781869
>Get infected
>Find out people are trying to use IQD as a safe haven
>Race there and avoid the Paladins cleansing everyone at the landing point
>Everyone doing daily quests like nothing has changed
>Hit the beach, get the attention of about 40 Murlocs
>Infect them
>They start attacking players, spreading the plague faster than it can be cleansed
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>>335785217
literally kill yourself you autistic faggot
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>people 'defending' Blizzard
I wish I had the time to give a (you) to all of you. You deserve it!
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Sorry Blizzard, I won't purchase your game.
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>>335793671
for further emphasis, look at where the scroll bar is. the rest of the servers to scroll through are 'low'
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>>335785484
>NOT EVERYONE IS CORRUPTABLE BLIZZARD

please kill yourself you delusional piece of shit

you are part of the cancer that has killed wow
>>
>Try to discuss lore in WoW general on /vg/
>Everybody ignores me and continues erp'ing and posting pictures of their girl characters
>See WoW threads on /v/
>It's always a good mixture of shitposting & lore discussion

Why is /v/ better than a general specifically designed around discussing WoW?
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>>335793671
they increased server capacity and it's end of expansion
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>>335793704
>>335781869
>tfw missed out on the pre-wrath event
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>>335793660
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>>335793008
They already marketed WoD as BC2.0. That's the only reason WoD subs spiked through the roof, and also the reason those sub numbers fucking tanked by 50% in a matter of months.

People have been fooled each expansion since Wrath into coming back. Which they will at first...but they won't last.

And I'm not talking about a competing game so "only 5 million" applies when BC and Wrath were approaching 3 times that many regular players.

>>335793091
Yes I am. You implied that some Nost players also played retail so they wouldn't technically be a new customer. Well, people who didn't play Nost will return to play Legacy as well.
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>>335794025
generals were made specifically to keep the namefags and avatarfags away from the rest of the people

not for discussions
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>>335793883
>be on high pop server
>find out it's the go-to server for LBGT scum
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>>335794046
I've played lots of end of expansions. It's never been like this. Don't be delusional
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>>335794025
>/v/
>Good at discussing anything Blizzard related
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>>335794025
Because /wowg/ is literally the cancer of /vg/. Its all ERPfags and Avatarfags circlejerking each other's cosmetics.

They're also all terrible. Youd have better luck on MMO-C Lore forums.
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>>335794105
literally dont care that youre triggered by gays and trannies you degenerate fag
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>>335781682
nostalrius wouldve been nothing without gold sellers and bots, they made up an enormous part of the active playerbase
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>>335794108
I have played lots of end of expansions too and it's normal for the end of expansion

also you totally ignore that they increased server capacity, that aone explains why server that used to be high are now medium, and medium servers are now low

use your brain
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>>335794025
Because generals are circle jerks by a small number of people.
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>>335793660
>>335794074
>>335794135
>>335794204
Why are you posting smugrays?
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>>335794259
>Mfw people wasted money on gold on a server that was inevitably going to be shutdown
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>>335794259
plus you can have more than 1 account
I had 6
there were no 800000 players there
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>>335794135
>Waaah because /v/ doesn't slurp Blizzard's excrament they're bad at discussing it!
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Who were you trying to impress you fucking nerd? I saw your post before you deleted it.
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>>335794258
Then why did you reply?
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>>335792669
>>335790079
>>335790248
uther is also his self-insert
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Any new/returning Euro players interested in doing a lore run of the game?
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>>335792669

This ego must be one where he still had hair.
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>>335794259

totally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_V5AZgyNEM
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>>335794368
>he doesn't even see deleted posts anyway
kek what a newfag
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>>335793008
>There is literally no other MMO on the market with even a million players

Are you a retard?

There are multiple f2p MMO's that reach at least a million concurrent users in China. Since the chinks have nothing else to do they just play shitty anime games all day.

>inb4 those don't count
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>>335794379
because i wanted to call you a degenerate fag for even making that comment. Why would anyone care that youre sad youre around gays?
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>Heard people saying Sylvanas is going to die in legion

You really think they're going to kill of everybodies favorite undead waifu?
No chance.

>Tfw Vol'jin will never do anything relevant
Come on nigga.
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>>335794259
Wasn't that why it got shut down in the first place? because gold farmers were using that server to make money off it?
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>>335785217
I just realized that you've accidentally written the most mary sue character I've ever heard of
Have you ever played a tabletop RPG?
"The witch lowers her posture and waves her arms towards you while chanting arcane words. Roll a will save"
"Oh a three plus uhh 5 that's 8"
"You feel your desire to help your friends fade and be replaced with a deep wanting to protect the witch you see before you"
"NO WAIT I CANT BE CORRUPTED REMEMBER? I SAID THAT WHEN I MADE MY CHARACTER"
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>>335794384

You can't self-insert yourself THREE fucking times. Especially when two of those characters are on opposite sides of a war!
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>>335794236
At least it can be pretty funny at times. Like how they made the MoP CM recolors as Class Hall sets for a great recent example.
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>>335794571
metzen has multiple personality disorder
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>>335794456
it's the last day you tremendous idiot, the people that never bothered logging on for months decided to be part of the spectacle.
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>>335775136
>Humans, the only race of the alliance that matters

I really hate the god damned human wank alliance has. Why bother having a fantasy setting with all these races, when you ignore all of them in favor of humans.
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>>335794519
That's the problem with Sylvanas.
She's waifubait.
She can't be killed off because that's all she is.
She's really not even that interesting of a character, and her story ended at the end of Wrath and the beginning of Cataclysm.
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>People calling this a rehash of the WOTLK pre-expansion event
>Nobody remembers that it was a rehash of the Naxx pre-patch event
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>>335794604
>>335794571
oh yeah, tirion fordring is ALSO his self-insert
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>>335794774
Nobody who played back than plays now. So how are these people supposed to rememer it?
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>>335785993
Not making a background for your toons.
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>>335794646
Because the original game was called "Warcraft: Orcs and Humans" and thus Orcs and Humans are the main characters.

Other races do need more love, though, I agree. Or at least they did before I quit.
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>>335794612

Tell me more about your unsubstantiated claims
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>>335792681
Gamergaters won't shut up about it, that's why.
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>>335794827
Or at least was.
Oh wait, he's going to be one of the new Four Horsemen.
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>>335794827
Let's not forget nozdormu, illidan and Edwin vancleef
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>>335794863

Your background is irrelevant in the face of the rules that the writers set down.
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>>335794898
>>335794932
>yfw all four of the horsemen are metzen self-inserts
i always knew there was something funny about nazgrim

also
>illidan
and malfurion
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>>335794880
all it took was logging in during regular peak hours to see a maximum of 4k players online. i guess you'd have to have played on the server to know this though.
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>>335794646
It's the same thing with Orcs for the horde faction. They only focus on Humans and mostly Orcs (the last expansions).
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>>335794336
>mfw people waste time to do anything in life when they are just going to die anyways
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>>335795001

mmhmm, very interesting
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>>335792681
>overwatch

I already own TF2.

>Warcraft movie

Probably gonna be good, no arguments there.

>fanservice: the expansion

After a 14 month content drought...not to mention the only fan service is the lore. The game itself looks worse and worse with each alpha update.

>people still complaining about legacy servers

And I'll continue to do so. BC is still the most fun game I've ever played, and I would like to be able to play it again.
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>>335794863
"So uhh my character has a greater strength of will than madivh because in the same position my character wouldn't have done that, no mind control doesn't work on him"
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>>335794868
The original yes, but the setting has changed alot in the last two decades. We now have multiple races and the human wank is BS. The while alliance story of MoP was pretty much "Humans are better than everyone at everything".

And yeah its still a problem, if anything more so. Now blizz added all these new buildings for the sake of garrison that are going to get reused heavily, all but one of which is entirely human themed. The only other alliance race to really do anything in WoD were the dwarves: but only the unplayable ones (ongoing issue with alliance dating back to wotlk where high elves took a lot of focus), and kinda the draenei but not really since it was all the draenor draenei doing stuff, and they're staying on Draenor.

>reminder that in one of the warcraft novels Jaina got a Gnome apprentice, which then subsequently died. Cant be having those races ever mingingling.
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>we will never have a good WoW thread again because of nost babies
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>>335775136
How much you wanna bet he's gonna be raised from the dead.

How much you want to fucking bet.
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>>335795295
What again?
Yeah probably
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>>335792921
At least it makes sense in lore terms in the case of STO. You are a captain; you would have to deal with duty officers and away missions that run the gamut from replacing your supply of alcohol to ordering one of your chief security officers to oversee a diplomatic incident. STO also has whole quest chains and storylines built into this system. I mean, it's just text, but the flavour is nice. And it really is entirely optional.

In world of warcraft, your player character running a garrison is a nice idea but: it's a stretch to make it fit with the lore; the execution is terrible; it's retarded that it is practically mandatory in WoD. Firstly, you're a mercenary and even the best mercenary isn't going to be contracted by a sovereignty to oversee the establishment of a colony. Secondly, establishing garrisons in an alternate version of an alien world makes very little sense. The Alliance/Horde isn't looking to take over Draenor. They're looking to get in and out fast. Garrisons, if they had to be implemented, would have made a great deal more sense lorewise back in MoP. Finally, the flavour text is fucking terrible and repeats itself constantly. I get that people don't care about the lore anymore, but at least STO puts in the effort to actually make the follower mission descriptions varied and meaningful.

These new class halls just look like more of the same. Class halls are a fantastic idea, but they should have gotten rid of the follower system entirely and replaced it with class based storylines and henchmen of varying skill that you unlock and build up as you progress - maybe even an apprentice of some sort. You know, a sort of three way mix between GW henchmen system, SWTOR companions and FFXIV class storyline progression. That would have been a whole lot better than what is essentially shaping up to be farmville 2.0.The thing that really infuriates me about all this shit is that you just know it's going to be a mandatory part of the experience.
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>>335792995
>>335792691
Registered accounts =/= Active accounts for sub
Regisered accounts =/= Amount of playerbase playing
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>>335794863
Background =/= Godmodding yourself to be absolved from effects that can potentially affect you in any scenario that isn't your personal fan-fiction
As >>335794569 put it, you can't just say NUH UH I'M IMMUNE TO EVUL, at least Blizzard lets you choose to Right-click the whispers and tell yourself you're still pure.
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>>335795060
>same with orcs
>Trolls doing stuff constantly
>goblins doing stuff constantly
>blood elves got a lot of focus in MoP
>forsaken are getting to do a lot, especcially in Legion
>tauren are sadly ignored entirely
>faction pandaren do nothing ever


Meanwhile:
>Gnomes do nothing: other races use their stuff
>Only Dark Iron do anything
>Worgen ignored completely, cant even finish their questline Alliance side. have to go Horde to see it
>Draenei igored completly: pandaren issue of the playable faction doing nothing during the expansion where the none-playable faction got to do stuff
>Night Elves whenever they do anything are neutral. Alliance night elves shat on constantly
>faction pandaren do nothing ever
The problem with Orcs is that they were both very important in the Horde while also constantly being the villain focus. The Hordes many races were doing FAR more than the Alliances many races.
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Does anyone know how much gold I could get within a month or so, I'm considering getting WoD for $10 and a month of WoW but I don't feel like paying monthly so I'd like to buy tokens off the marketplace and I hear Garrisons basically make the game free with how much gold they let you accumulate
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>>335775136
They knew his priorities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4m2RhjjyjY
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>>335794108
It's still increased server capacity and it has nothing to do with your memory of server pop, my high pop server went to medium and the other server I played on earlier that I left some alts on that was medium is now low, and it changed overnight after the server capacity patch to brace for the legion launch lag impact
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>>335795247
Those are game failures though, imo. MoP was a dogshit expansion, and garrisons/class halls were and still are a terrible idea.
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>>335795285
Wodlet
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>>335794989
Is Jaina a Metzen's self-insert?
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>>335795415
SHUT UP I DONT CARE ABOUT FACTS IM RIGHT YOURE WRONG YOURE JUST MAD BECAUSE RETAIL IS COMPLETELY DEAD AND NO ONE OLAYS IT ANYMORE YOU SJW KEK SHILL LALALALALALALA
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>>335795546

>Draenei ignored

Minus this expansion, right? Not that it's really worth mentioning. I don't recall much happening for them in MoP though.
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>>335794367
>wwaah, why isn't everyone hating on Blizzard like me and the three other guys from nost, it's the cool thing to do
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>>335794505
>f2p
Wow you are fucking stupid.
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>>335795749
Any character you like is his self insert because I said so
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>>335795285
We can never get good WoW threads period since they tend to get drowned out by "X blizz game is just a bad copy of Y!" and abunch of screaming about things that stopped being relavent years ago (DIABLO 3, MORE LIKE DIAB-JEW 3, REAL MONEY LMAO)
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>>335795749
yes, one of metzen's personalities is jaina and it's in love with several of his other personalities
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>>335795649
They do, but you need to babysit it somewhat regularly.

NEETs like me never have (had) a problem buying tokens, but to normies/casuals it won't come as easy as advertised.
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>>335794942
That's why you make it work with the lore and not play as some Illidan/Arthas ripoff.
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>>335781869
I loved that event. Nice to see that something similar will come back.
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>>335795840
The outrage over D3 wasn't so much RMAH and more along the lines of "how could you fuck up this bad when all you had to do is copy, paste, and tweak Diablo 2 into a new graphics engine."
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>>335795410
>Class halls are a fantastic idea

Lorewise, I have the same problem with them that I have with Garrisons. You're a wandering mercenary adventurer, in many cases there is very little to tie you to any of these class organizations. I really only see it working for paladins and death knights. Maybe druids, too. I guess monks, but the training grounds on the mountaintop was definitely more MoP themed.

I guess it's not 'your' class hall in the same way it was your garrison, but it still feels like it's adding some sort of unnecessary hierarchy.
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>>335795764
>minus the expansion

Go ahead and tell me what the Draenei did in the expansion. Other than get their ass kicked, have one hero killed, and another hero whose entire storyline was her failing left and right then being rewarded for it. Who also wont be showing up again as blizz said the Draenor Draenei are staying on Draenor.

Tell me of all the things that the Draenei did with the Alliance and how important they were to the Alliance.

Mind you, its hard to count having Lunarfall when there is nothing Draenei themed about Lunarfall, and we only got it because the Draenei were to incompetent to defend themselves against a single clan.
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>>335795295
Only if he's corrupted to the Legion.
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>>335795752
For a minute I thought you were a real nost poster, it's hard to distinguish
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>>335795797
>"those don't count"

Wow I definitely did not expect that.
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>>335790248
Don't forget Malfurion.
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>>335793479
They wasted a fucking alternate dimension set before the events of EVERYTHING on a filler 7 month long expansion. Thats all that needs to be said about modern Blizzard.
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>>335792681
DELETE THIS
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>>335795230
Medhiv was possessed as a fetus you tard. Also to make a good RP story for a toon you give him weaknesses so he may be uncorruptable but has very little strength.
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>>335796031
>artificial hierarchy

Just call it what it is. A Facebook minigame. Just like pet battles and other dumb shit they've added over the last few expansions.
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>>335796115
>f2p
>free
>literally comparing a game you can play for 0 to a game that has been 15 a month for over a decade

Wew lad I hope you never breed.
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>>335792395
The biggest whiners were AH barons. I wouldn't really call them casuals in any right.
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>>335778824
Yeah and Blizzard hosted CP on a separate webpage... Here's a (You), shill.
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>>335795960
>That's why you make it work with the lore

And according to the developers, the "my character is incorruptible" stance doesn't work with the lore. That's pretty much all there is to it.
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>>335794342
mutiboxing was banned
120,000 is the correct average number if I recall
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Ooops, what is this, can't disclose this information publicly? Sounds like some inside job of the guys in the server
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>>335772973
sounds like a shitty remake of the pre-wotlk event
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>>335796281
Spreadsheeters who are too casual for EVE? How are they not the epitome of casual?
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>>335796246
>There is literally no other MMO on the market with even a million players
>literally no other MMO on the market
>literally no other

>"but f2p games don't count because it disproves what I said"

Godamn the backpedalling is real.

Should have chosen your words better, mate.
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>>335795450
That's why you make the toon have a weakness Samwise might have been extremely loyal to Frodo but they both argued multiple times.
>>
lol
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>>335795201
>I already own TF2
Who the fuck doesn't? its a free fucking game, i own every flash game you faggot.
Outdated as fuck game
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>>335794273
>muh increased server capacity

Literally North Korean levels of brainwashing. LMAOing @ your life, blizzdrone.
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>>335796493
nice bait desu
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>>335796374
I remember people accusing Blizzard back in the day working together with china farmers and making mad dosh with gold selling.

Some retards never stop believing shit like this it seems
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>>335796461
don't forget eve, i'm pretty sure that has over a million and that's not even free to play
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>>335796596
ooops, dropped this
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>>335796493
lol
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>>335793080
Every expansion since wrath has felt like filler. I honestly think that this is one of the major underlying problems that people aren't recognising. They don't realize they care about lore, but they do.

>Well, both Illidan and Arthas, the two major figures of WCIII and FF, are dead and gone. I guess that about wraps up the Warcraft storyline. What do we do next?
>...
>uh...a big bad dragon - Blackwing was a thing people remember right?
>that didn't go well...uh...Pandas - people liked that April fools joke and Factions did really well right?
>Shit...we're haemorrhaging player...how about we go back to Draenor or try Argus. People loved TBC!
>Metzen: yes, but it must be all about orcs and Thrall's inner turmoil
>but people didn't love TBC because of the orcs, and Thrall's inner turmoil has been old since the end of Cataclysm
>Metzen: it has to all be about orcs and Thrall must once again take centre stage.
>fuck...we're really starting to lose subscribers here. Quickly release the demon hunter class and bring back one of the two favourites from the lore. We can't bring back Arthas because that'd be too soon so go with Illidan. Also, go back to making everything green and demonic because people loved TBC. Everyone gets a legendary because people always really wanted legendaries back in the day, especially Ashbringer

I would bet money on the fact that Legion, as a concept, was something entirely concocted by the marketing division.
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>>335795715
>MoP was a dogshit expansion

>KUNG-FU PANDA RIP-OFF GUYS! GUYS! ITS SHIT! IT HAS PANDAS!
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>>335795546

>tfw night elf
>tfw relegated to blue-team cheerleaders
>tfw they genuinely expect a society of thousands of years to throw away itself to just cuck themselves to a human king
>said human king apparently earns the respect of the night elven matriarch, who is shown to be inferior to his strategy/planning
>any time Malfurion is on the screen Tyrande is a lost cause

fuck Kosak

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9741764252
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>>335796493
>FBI search warrant
LIFE ON THE EDGE
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LOL!
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>>335796596
>bait
i'm pretty sure it's just meant to be funny and poke fun at everyone involved

>>335796638
their donations were direct to server hosts, idk what you're trying to prove with this
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>>335796447
Because the amount of time they spend on the game is far more than any casual ever would.
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>>335785861
corruption is blizzard's overarching theme, corporately, and in their storytelling
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>>335796654
>We can't bring back Arthas because that'd be too soon

They can't bring him back because Bolvar probably burned the corpse.
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>>335794827
>every character who isn't a grimdark edgelord is a self-insert!!!1

Back to TF2 with you, nostcuck.
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>>335794108
It happened over night, they changed the values for each population. High is now truly high, all the others went from high to medium or from medium to low
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>>335796695
LOL
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So what happened to Kronos guys, I thought it was suppose to be the next best thing?

Nothing?

Aw what a shame :3
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>>335796767
>insert shitty mcrib copy pasta here
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>>335796812
>can't handle jokes
>implying arthas wasn't also a self-insert
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>>335796704

>chair leg straining

Sheeeeeit.
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>>335795546
>Worgen ignored completely

I always hated this.

I know they get a lot of shit because ew furries but I always thought the idea of Alliance getting a new addition that was as savage and brutal as any orc was a good idea. No fucking clue why they did NOTHING with them.
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>>335796350
I didn't multibox, just created several accounts for character slots
I think it was 5 though, not 6, cause I think that was the limit
120k are about the number of active players, but 800k are the number of accounts created, which means dick though, cause people have multiple accounts
then people like mark kern inflate the number to 1 million when in reality only a few thousand people were actually playing there
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>>335796851
Fuck off were full.
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>>335795546

>gilneans now live in darnassus full time
>still no night elf/human crossbreed kids
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>>335796874
I had a mcrib yesterday, it was the most dissapointing thing since discovering how the job market worked when I was 18 years old 9 years ago without the aid of nepotism
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>>335796932
>jokes
>on /v/
Idontthinksotim.png
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>>335796461
>chink f2p mmos
>mattering
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>>335796851
Literally 5k waiting queues atm

>You think you do but you don't :^)
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>>335794089
>muh conjecture

literally
no
facts

go kill yourself already fucking faggot. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Every single one of your posterboys will be back for Legion, just because you don't doesn't give you the right to spew BS
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>>335796840
Nostalrius ain't so cool anymore, in fact it doesn't even exist anymore lmao
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>bunch of neckbeards from france put together a private server that holds 15,000 concurrent players using string and baguettes
>Multi million dollar megacorp says they can't do it because its an engineering issue
>Meanwhile in the same breath Acti-blizz releases this monstrosity
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>>335797079
>>335797218
>Getting invested in ANOTHER vanilla server after Blizzard smacked down Nos
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>>335797384
>Comparing console trash to something as delicate as battlenet
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>>335797218
5k queue on 0 is still 0 m8

It's pretty hilarious how you guys defend a garbage czech literal p2w server

http://www.twinstar.cz/?lang=en

I guess that's what you do when you're a spiteful little vanillakiddie
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>>335797306
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>>335797602
Enjoy that que timer nostcuck :^)
2k maximum player server with 5k wanting in, sounds like fun
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>>335772973
What the fuck, my server is dead even at peak times.

Will be like me and 3 other people running around trying to do stuff, great.
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>>335797602
Isn't the ques there because of the server limit for the Kronos guys that hosts the game ??
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>>335797602
I don't get what this is supposed to prove, that you think you do but you don't is correct?
>look guys we have 10k playing an 11 year old turd! Take that you millions of retailcucks xDD
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>>335797602
>T-t-t-this is fun, i-i-i-in your face retailf-f-f-ag
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>>335797704
>rolling on a low server
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>>335797602
NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY VANILLA

FUCKING DELETE THIS POST RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>335797759
BEST
FUCKING
PAIRING
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>>335797876
90% of all servers in EU are "low". Wow is pretty dead sadly.
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>>335797759
>>335797939

I just don't understand you guys.

Might as well pair Sylvanas and Arthas.
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>>335796031
I should clarify - I mean class halls would be a fantastic idea if you were just one of many practitioners of said class. Making you the leader was a stupid decision.
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>>335796643
>Germans
>Showing emotion

That's illegal anon
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>>335797876
It was High/Full way back when.

I hope they merge the cities like they have marged the rest of the places with server groups.
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>>335797982
This has never changed. I played horde in classic on Laughing Skull and it was dead as fuck on peak hours. There were like a total of 200 ally players too which made BGs and pvp impossible
>>
What is the hardest, most gimped and ignored class to play and why is it Elemental Shaman?

Surely they'll be made good for Legion, right guys?
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>>335797982
Play on Ragnaros EU then, or you scared of pvp servers?
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>>335797879
>>335797848
>>335797803
>>335797759
>>335797703
>all this asspain over a new server cropping up overnight
>Literally opened up a second server a couple of days ago and its overcapacity
>theres demand for at least for 3 more servers

Pretty bad when private servers have more concurrent players in the morning than retail during rush hour.
>>
>one whole minute
>players can opt out
>only Orgrimmar
If only pre-WotLK Blizzard was still alive.
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>>335798119
>playing retail at all

I'm not that big into cuckolding and bull prepping isn't my thing, either. Sorry f@m, but I'm happy you're enjoying it!
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>>335798142
>It's fine, I enjoy this, I enjoy these 3+ hours ques, i-i-in your face retail!
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>>335798142
You could fit both of kronos' servers in one realm like nost's pvp realm. Stop sucking their dick, nostcuck

You don't have anything impressive. And no, there are many retail realms with more concurrent players than this
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>>335798220
-1/10
Try to log into Nostalrius
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>>335798293
Nice legendary ring Anon :^)
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>>335794642
hehe
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>>335798142
>being a f2p poorfag

enjoy your chinks, m8
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>>335798330
>there are many retail realms with more concurrent players than this
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>>335798028
>might as well pair Sylvanas and Arthas
>implying this won't happen
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>>335798498

Racemixing is illegal in Warcraft.
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>>335798293
Cool as a cucumber!

Why is Khadgar so based?
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>>335798415
Chinks don't even want to populate retail servers because theres no one there to sell to.
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>>335798390
>>335798142
>>335798469
Choke on dicks, nostcucks :)

https://realmpop.com/eu.html
https://realmpop.com/us.html
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>>335798390
YOU DONT WANT THIS
LALALALAL
YO ONLY PLAYED IT CUZ ITS FREE
LALALALA NOT LISTENING
YOU THINK YOU DO
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>>335798156
Pre-wrath event was only started in the major cities and Booty Bay, for the first two days gave you 10 minutes to cure it (unless you died beforehand) and lasted no time at all because ghouls were easy as fuck to kill, and players still found ways to spread it everywhere before it ramped up.

We still don't even know if this will have a ramp-up to it like the WotLK event did, and people are ignoring the big thing of turning NPCs hostile on everyone.
>>
>>335798635
I feel so bad for Aegwynn horde.. They are literally cucked.
>>
>>335798558
Didn't stop her sisters.
>>
Pretty lame to know everything about a world event before going in. Maybe it's because I wasn't too active in news circles at the time but the scourge invasion came out of nowhere for me. I feel like I got the most out of it because of that.
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>>335796493
>horde tattoo
>playing alliance
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>>335798469
Just to name one, proudmore has more concurrent players than nost or kronos
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>>335798028
The relationship between Illidan and Maiev are different from the one that Sylvanas and Arthas had though.
I just hope they don't kill off both characters as bosses in the next expansion and stop Illidan from being sloppy second with Tyranda. It's the last characters from Wc3 they haven't fucked up yet.

>>335798142
There is a hardware difference though.
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>>335798762
>Caring about horde vs alliance
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>>335798649
You're right I don't want to sit afk in orgrimmar all day waiting for content I've already cleared to reset
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>people seriously think vanilla isn't fun
fuck kronos though
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>>335798635
why are you so defensive? You aren't insecure about the state of live, are you?

I am
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>>335798804
Isn't her brother teaming up with her now? Maiev did nothing wrong.

and she's cute! CUTE!!
>>
>>335798635
those are total number of characters
I had 50 characters and more at times
I deleted characters all the time and replaced them
>>
>>335798804
Inb4 deleted
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>>335798635
>look at the peak after WoD release and crossrealm counting people several times, WoW is not gead guys I s-swear.. ;_;

lmao
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>>335798804
>The relationship between Illidan and Maiev are different from the one that Sylvanas and Arthas had

It's not so different that it matters - Maiev and Illidan fucking hate each other.

>It's the last characters from Wc3 they haven't fucked up yet

Illidan was always pathetic - his endless pining for Tyrande completely ruined any kind of depth he could have had.

They should have developed his relationship with Malfurion more, that's something that could have actually gone somewhere.
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>>335798929
Take your pick
http://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/us/lang.en

>b-b-but muh nost has more players than any retail server
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>retailcucks
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>>335798924
>spews lies and bullshit
>get btfo
>y u so insecure :)))

literally an underage
>>
Nostfags are literally Goobergate 2.0.
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>>335799102
no one says nost has more players retard
but if you add all these numbers up you don't even get close to 5.5 million
wow's sub numbers are crashing
nost's numbers were rising
wow's servers were ghosttowns
nost's servers were filled with players
>>
>>335785291
naxx was wotlk
>>
>WoTLK event all over again
>but this time you can just opt-out if you were one of those Asshurt Annies back then
>all that bullshit to be a dreadlord for a minute

What's sad is there are still people that play this game, but I can rest easy knowing 75% of these threads are just people hopping on because Nostalrius went down and it's the easiest bait of their lives.
>>
>>335799242
>spews lies and bullshit


I'm sorry, but what lies did I espouse?
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>>335798804
>It's the last characters from Wc3 they haven't fucked up yet.
they did that long ago with the war of the ancients novels
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>>335794885
>>335799273
Last time I checked, GG was on the right side of history.
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>>335799102
scroll down and you see what the numbers are for. its not for players online. its a fucking site about fingind out which realm has most dedicated pvers.

heres for concurrent users: http://www.warcraftrealms.com/activity.php?serverid=57
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>>335796672
Clearly you didn't main a Shadow Priest...er excuse me, Affliction Warlock. It's so hard to tell the fucking difference anymore.

>>335797271
Okay then, hot shit. Why did 5+ million people quit the game between WoD launch and a month after HFC released? Literally over half the player base suddenly vanished, apparently for no reason according to you, between that time period.

Go ahead, do tell.
>>
>>335799457
>they did that long ago with the war of the ancients novels
War of the ancient novels had cute young Shandris, so shut your whore mouth.

I can already picture younger Shandris crying at night, mourning her lost family. Then Tyrande would come into the room and "comfort" her. Malfurion wasn't around, so Tyrande needed someone to share sisterly pleasure with.
>>
>>335799526
If being a bunch of whiny cry babies who got BTFO left and right. Sure.
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>>335792921
>Chinese company

This explains it, Blizz doesn't want to admit that garrisons are meact for Chinese market
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>>335799623
that's literally incest
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>>335798929
>b-b-but registered accounts on nostalrius = amount of players playing at the same time
>>335799036
>Muh feelings
>>335799304
>Backtracking when provided with evidence
>>335798705
Have you seen Stormscale? pic related
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b-but i love garrisons and arbitrary wait times, really!
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>>335799273
Explain to me exactly how this is anything like Gamergate.
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>>335799623

>waifufaggotry

The books were shit. There's no denying that.
>>
>>335796683
Blizzard needs to make Warden armor for Night Elves already. Would use on my warrior in a heartbeat.
>>
>>335799860
Bunch of entitled man babies crying about the right of businesses to do as they please with their product.
>>
>>335796683

>Hey baby, I know you've been a commander of a race of perfect warriors for 10 000 years, but let me tell you a thing or two about strategy. I am such a master strategist I was captured by Orcs and forced to fight in their arena for 10 years.
>>
>>335799860
>Please spoonfeed me
>>
>>335799829
>>b-b-but registered accounts on nostalrius = amount of players playing at the same time
I never said that
retard

>>335799829
>>Backtracking when provided with evidence
evidence for what? I commented on the link that was provided
count the numbers together and it doesn't add up to 5.5 million
>>
I wish it would go back to pandaria.
That was my favourite xpac.
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>>335799878
Horde fag detected.

Sorry that you're not part of the night elf master race.

Elune4Ever
>>
>>335799829
you could literally log into nostalrius and write /who to display how many players were online
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>>335799935
>Bunch of entitled

Entitled how exactly? Nobody feels entitled to vanilla servers at all, explain.

>crying about the right of businesses to do as they please with their product

Are you seriously implying people don't think Blizzard can do whatever the fuck they want with their IP? We're ASKING for it, you fucking mongoloid.
>>
>>335800004
Biggest faggots in the game after worgen
>>
>>335799295

>hey guys how can we turn WoW into Hearthstone?
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>>335799970
You did, or your peers do, it's the same anyway, you're all nostcucks who when ever presented with evidence go

>a-at least I'm not a retailcuck :^) EEXXDEEE
>>
>>335799935
>a fat tumblr whore sleeping with nu-males from Kotaku was an issue of companies doing as they please with their product

Is the product here fat triggerkin, or lackluster writing?
>>
>>335799956
>I can't actually draw any genuine comparisons between the two and am just lumping them together to try and discredit people who want Vanilla servers as "the same as this other group of undesirables"

You're pathetic.
>>
>>335800031
Pretty sure there is 0 players online on nost right now
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>>335800116
>You did, or your peers do

not that guy but you just lost the argument
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>>335800079
Crying for a product to the point of beating a dead horse ( much like Goobergaters too ), and then demanding Blizzard to bring vanilla servers. Nevermind using ILLEGAL vanilla servers and then crying when blizzard takes them down.

Entitled. Babies.
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>>335796672
>MoP had really great questing!
>good raids too
>The Isle of Thunder was fun

Questing in MoP was largely shit: mechanically, it was the same theme park ride these expansions always are; from the perspective of anyone who has any love of storytelling or narrative design, it was saccharin tripe. The only reason people liked questing in MoP was because it had more cinematics and voice work than they were used to and, for once, you were actually downing unique looking mobs. The story itself was pure garbage that couldn't hold a candle to anything from the RTS or even Wrath (if you bothered to read the quest descriptions) and TBC (yes, Illidan was handled terribly but there were some great little threads along the way). MoP was generic, and I mean aggressively GENERIC, journey to the west, fu man chu, style bullshit. Sure - Blizzard has a reputation for tongue and cheek cliché humour, but most of this expansion was meant to be taken super seriously. It was so poorly done, if I was Chinese, I might actually have been racially offended. Fucking AoC handled the East Asian inspired setting far better, not to mention Factions.

I couldn't give less of a shit about the Mogu; none of the writing that dealt with their origins or motivations compelled me to see them as interesting antagonists.

The Isle of Thunder was a glorified daily time sink tarted up with a few storyline titbits.

Having a faction leader as the end boss was plain lazy. Turning him into a Saturday morning cartoon villain for the sake of needing a raid boss, when they had already spent a large portion of Cataclysm giving his character some semblance of depth, was really disappointing to see.
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>>335799558
It doesn't matter, they'll be back for legion which you're so adamant about how they're not going to.
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>>335800197
Nope, you did, cause I just said so )
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>>335800196
no shit sherlock
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>>335800131
I don't see the issue with sleeping your way to good reviews. Welcome to the big league, kid. It's been happening in other media sources since forever. Goobergate changed nothing except showing the world what happens when man babies don't get their bottle.
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>>335800215
>Crying for a product to the point of beating a dead horse ( much like Goobergaters too )

When the fuck did GG ask for a product?

>and then demanding Blizzard to bring vanilla servers

Show me evidence of people DEMANDING anything, nobody is fucking "demanding". We're ASKING to give them money.

Just admit this is absolutely nothing like GG and you're just trying to smear people who want legacy servers.
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>>335799295
STOP THIS NOW I LIKE THOSE MINI GAME MISSION THEY ADD ALOT OF DEPTH TO THE GAME
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>>335799552
Could you PLEASE delete this post?

Give us Blizzbros are fucking BREAK
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>>335800284
Well, I guess there really isn't a demand then outside a few babies crying for it on 4chan as usual, been like this since wrath
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>>335800081
desu you sound mad jelly senpai :^)

Did a Night Elf take your internet GF and cuck you?
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>>335799558
>Why did 5+ million people quit the game between WoD launch and a month after HFC released?
Cause they got tired of doing the same shit over and over again, as Blizzard diverted a lot of ressources to Overwatch and let WoD in shambles.
>but if were doing the same shit over and over IN VANILLA, it'll be different!
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>>335800116
retard
shill
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>>335800350
All that stuff you typed there is great, but what does it have to do with companies and or their products? I'm not misunderstanding what glompo gibs is right, it actually started that way. So what does that have to do with a company's decision-making in regards to produced goods?
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THE GARRISON MAKES ME FEEL LIKE IM REALLY THERE
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>>335800367
Check the wow forums. It's full of demands when the gate was opened for discussions upon Blizzards response. A bunch of entitled crybabies you are.

GG were a bunch of man children crying about girls in gaming. They wanted companies to ignore these people and cater to them.
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>>335772973
>release a forum post about maybe legacy maybe pristine servers
>never heard from again
was it just blizzard damage control? It wouldn't be the first time they casually forget about something.
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>>335799306
Don't talk to me or my pre events ever again
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>>335800602
>image.jpg
>nostcuck
Clearly a connection between hipster macfags and nost
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>>335785443
>RP is part of the G

kek
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>>335800461
>How to be a faggot: the post
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>>335797025
because they're essentially humans. In a world where people transform into giant owl bears or summon demon wings/horns at the drop of a hat, making an entire race out of a human that can shift into a worg always felt a bit odd. I think they realised it was a mistake. Beyond the fact that they're isolationist, and they all have their own druid form, there's not much you can really do with them narratively that you wouldn't sooner do with the mainline human race.
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>>335799935
>Bunch of entitled man babies crying about the right of businesses to do as they please with their product.

>>335800215
>Crying for a product to the point of beating a dead horse ( much like Goobergaters too )

>>335800621
>GG were a bunch of man children crying about girls in gaming.

You seem to not have all your thoughts in order, I hope you realize that's not what we're about here at /v/. Please get your ideas in a neat pile, at least try to fit in with our progressive board culture.
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>>335800621
>Anecdotes

Great, so the vast majority of people aren't demanding shit but since a few faggots on the forums are, the whole movement is demanding it, nice.

>GG were a bunch of man children crying about girls in gaming. They wanted companies to ignore these people and cater to them.

Show me examples of people wanting Blizzard to ignore retail and exclusively work on Vanilla realms. Also please stop with the stupid adhom, I'm sure a lot of the people opposed to Vanilla realms are also crying manchildren.
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>>335800714
>Don't talk to me or my pre events ever again
I don't know why this made me laugh as much as it did.
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>>335800923
>>335800932
:^) it got you to reply though
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>>335800932
>Show me examples of people wanting Blizzard to ignore retail and exclusively work on Vanilla realms
hmm, how about right in this thread, read through it
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>>335800258
>accuses me of conjecture
>proceeds to believe that WoW will surge to BC subscription levels again after the monumental failure (and the "BC2.0" marketing con) that was WoD

Kay.

>>335800501
It would be very different from live retail, and retail would always be there if you wanted new content.
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>>335790489
Yeah he did, during children's week.
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>>335801164
Children's Week > Some Horde cucks funeral

Easy choice.
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>>335801135
Can't see anyone telling them to ignore retail tbqh, you might want to get your eyes checked.
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>>335800736
>there's not much you can really do with them narratively that you wouldn't sooner do with the mainline human race

They could have had them operate as some sort of shock troop at the forefront of Alliance battle lines. I mean a large theme throughout Cataclysm is how the world is so much more dangerous now, and the characters in the setting need to respond to that. Making sure your entire nation of savage wolf-men have somebody to fight would be an appropriate response.

I just feel that doing nothing with the Worgen is much worse than if they had done something underwhelming. At least fucking try, you know?
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>>335801146
Prob has nothing to do wit the game being 13 year old soon, nope
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>Garrison is by far the most polished aspect of WoD
>People are complaining that is it mandatory to level to finish a legendary questline
>"What if we keeped it as a side thing that people could use to get unique mounts or get ressources?"
>"Nah, we'll scrap half of it and make it even more mandatory!"
What were they thinking?
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>>335801135
I'm not reading through 440 replies. Just stop replying if you don't actually have a counter-argument and are instead trying to get me to fall into LE BURDEN OF PROOF shitcycle.

Even if you did have evidence of silly faggots asking Blizzard to shut down retail and work on nothing but Vanilla realms they would be a drop in the ocean.

Really nice attempt at tarring people who want Vanilla realms with the Gamergate brush though, didn't quite work this time I'm afraid. I'm sure you can try it on someone else whose opinions you disagree with in the future though.
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>>335801256
Pretty much everywhere in this thread, you chose to ignore it for the sake of you "being right"
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>>335792824
Let's face it. WarCraft III had some good ideas that enriched the lore and setting.

WoW also did some nice additions, but it did also include things that simply shouldn't have been done.

Not to mention that the latter element became more visible after Cataclysm...
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>>335801317
Copying and pasting an already-low resource feature with arbitrary wait times to keep people subbed and mask any lack of content

Classic activision
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>>335801396
>I'm not reading through 440 replies.
Aka, I know it's there, but I can't bother with it cause I would hate for you to be right

You're presented with proof in this thread yet you don't want to read it

Typical young millenial
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>>335801404
Show me a single instance where this has happened, though. You don't seem to be doing that, because it isn't happening. You can even use the handy-dandy search function. The people telling Blizzard employees to stop putting effort into retail actually work at Blizzard, and would probably not be posting here.
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>>335792742
>gold nerf
Wooow
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>>335792824
Just read up on that.
Is Warcraft like Star Wars where you can disregard the books? Because that shit was lame.
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>>335801598
>he people telling Blizzard employees to stop putting effort into retail actually work at Blizzard
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>>335801317
The people working on WoD/Legion have no clue what the fuck they're doing and what made wow fun in the first place.

They should really go back and try out vanilla for a bit.
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>>335801560
>Even if you did have evidence of silly faggots asking Blizzard to shut down retail and work on nothing but Vanilla realms they would be a drop in the ocean.

I also love how you've completely backed down about the whole GG thing and you're nitpicking other parts of my argument instead. Hilarious.
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>>335801598
>and would probably not be posting here.
Ahh the no true scotsman
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>>335801720
No Anon, that was a joke. Fucking retard.
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>>335775136
When and how did best character die?
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>>335801720
>y-you're stopping me from doing the job I am currently RPing

I'm so sorry

*teleports out of your way*
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>>335801719
>I got no argument so now I'm gonna dissect this anons posts instead

Hillarious, faggots like you are the reason we have abortion and why we should ease up the laws on chastising kids
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>>335801813
>I-I-I-IT WAS JUST A JOKE! JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
>>335801843
Who are you quoting
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>>335801879
>Ad hom

Ok thanks for letting me know it's safe to stop replying to you now. Keep on blaming the GG boogeyman, you fucking chump.
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>>335792186

As a guy who quit when Cata ruined everything, what is this, and why is it bad?
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>>335802042
>waah waah, I refuse to read any posts in this thread, cause they will just prove you're right and I'm wrong

Alright faggio, time to stop posting
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>>335801819
Lol, can't you identify patterns. They homogenized everything.

Orcs had a leader go raid boss, so this human guy will get 'corrupted' and be a raidboss.

for dramatic effect his kid will probably kill him.
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>>335801956
Please sir I've already moved don't make me defend myself, I will not feel pride in doing so but I will defend myself from the mighty Blizzo.

*unseathes katana*
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>>335802042
>>335801719
>Shieeet, I got no argument, time to wind up the reaction folder, that'll show him whose right
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>>335800714
>>335785291

>Seeing Nax outside of Ironforge for the first time
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>>335801146
It's not conjecture, it's a fact. You still seem to be under illusion that a blizzard game will flop, it won't.

Even by your definition of a flop (5 million players), that's still not a flop and the game is far from dying

Literally mcfucking kill yourself already nostcuck, your underage conquest fantasies won't come true
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>>335801694
It's not fun for you but it's been fun for me. I came back a month ago after not playing since Wrath and have been having a blast. Garrisons are pretty nice and don't take more than 2 minutes with an addon to do and go on your way.
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>>335800725
toppest keks
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I ASKED A FUCKING QUESTION AND YOU PEOPLE ARE IGNORING ME TO TALK ABOUT NOST SHIT!!!!!!!

WHY THE FUCK IS KHADGAR SO BASED?!?!?!?
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so, why is /v/ even arguing about the whole nostalrius fiasco?
Blizzard should have a legacy server and saying otherwise is blatantly retarded, more money for blizzard, and as for the players, well it's like when I like a game which you don't. Arguing over it is pointless and quite honestly very autistic.
Can somebody please give me a run down on the whole arguing in this thread? I can't read shitposts
ty.
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>>335802959
Times change, friend. You shouldn't look to the past for enjoyment and instead look to the future.
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>>335803049
that makes no sense mate.
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Never Forget Serenity Now and the biggest butthurt ever seen in the history of WoW.
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>>335802959
>more money for blizzard
Gee, running servers, having devs work on it, gm's for ingame, and stuff sounds like it's for free amirite
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>>335803049
How about looking at the present? Current WoW isn't the same as old WoW, there's nothing else on the market that interests me apart from DQX which will never be released outside of Asia, and there are no new MMOs in production as far as I can tell.
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>>335803242
I don't know, nostalrius beats it by a inch in terms of mass amount of butthurt per player
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>>335791567
Humans in wow are descended from vyrkul.
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>>335803265
God forbid a company creates more jobs, right?
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>>335803312
>>335803185
Play Legion or don't play at all. That's how it is.
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>>335803265
>~250k petition signers
>thinking they will spend more money than they will earn
also blatantly incorrect. what the hell?
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>>335797184
It does to the millions playing them :)
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>>335802959
>Blizzard should have a legacy server and saying otherwise is blatantly retarded, more money for blizzard, and as for the players, well it's like when I like a game which you don't. Arguing over it is pointless and quite honestly very autistic.

"it's not about the argument, it's about how you present it"
- Maximillian_DOOD on the fighting game communities

If nostfags had been a trifle less arrogant and obnoxious I wouldn't argue with them

Hey I want legacy servers, it would be a nice project on the side while I progress the real game

But honestly clinging to a 12 year old iteration we've all cleared before like a spastic is in my humble opinion very pathetic
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>>335803265
How about they take one of the hundreds of dead and literally empty servers and make it into a vanilla realm?

Sounds like a hassle, though. Imagine doing these two to three clicks to set it up. Better make some more Order Hall drag n' drop mission table quests instead
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>>335801312
Yes, but Blizzard's story team has been objectively shit for at least three expansions now. I care about the lore in the same way that someone might care about a soap opera; you realize it's terrible, and it's unlikely to ever get better, but it's candy floss for the brain.

The sad thing is, warcraft wasn't always this bad when it came to storytelling. I mean, I was fairly young at the time, but I loved WCIII and FF for the stories and world building. The good will generated by that storytelling is part of what drew people to WoW in the first place. You didn't get much story in WoW, but they didn't shit on anything either, and you got to run around in a world you had been heavily invested in as a child. Up until just past Ulduar, the expansions didn't do an awful job of continuing the storyline either (bar that fiasco over Illidan). Orange not-lich king really signalled the beginning of the end for me. It was so feeble.

They really do need to change their writing team. Metzen may have been with the company since the beginning, but he can't spin a compelling yarn to save his life. As a writer, he has all the imagination and talent of an over-active four year old. I refuse to believe he had any serious hand in developing WCIII's and FF's storyline and dialogue.
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>>335803483
>implying most of those sigs aren't just bots
Goobergate 2.0 everyone.
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>>335802742
>Only person willing to stand up to Medivh
>Only person to figure out the Sargaras/Medivh situation
>tried to destroy the Dark Portal
>Lived in Outlands for years
>friends with angels
>killed countless orcs
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>>335803483
Signing a petition is free, subbing to a legacy server isn't

At best 1/4 of these signers would actually sign up and play in the long-term.

It's not like we've already seen this before, runescape had 400k signatures, guess how many plays today

Btw, the petition has no way of deterring duplicates. It's also signed by a ton of people who have never played and will never play WoW. It has no legitimacy
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>>335803397
Yeah, let's just throw money away, it doesn't matter cause we got money amirite?

People with no real sense on handling money or business shouldn't be allowed to talk about it, shoo shoo spending youth goblin, cuck your life by buying a car when you don't really need one and can't really afford it

>>335803483
I can tell you what's blatantly incorrect, is 250k unique petition signs, and there is nothing on that says they're ready to pay for legacy servers
>>335803518
Yeah, lets' regress on the content instead of creating new one >>335801396
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>>335803567
>Yes, but Blizzard's story team has been objectively shit for at least three expansions now.
That's, like, your opinion. Have a little patience, Tyrande.
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>>335803491
>But honestly clinging to a 12 year old iteration we've all cleared before like a spastic is in my humble opinion very pathetic
but that's merely your upinion, which differs from a fuckton of people ready to pay and play on a legacy server
>If nostfags had been a trifle less arrogant and obnoxious I wouldn't argue with them
I understand that nostalrius is illegal, but really? arrogant? can you fucking define the word for me mate? I don't think you know what it means
yeah blizzard refusing for whatever stupid reasons to create a legacy server over the years will cause a fuck ton of butthurt. Also who the fuck do blizzard think they are not listening to their customers? Sure, they're rich, still no reason to be pretentious fucks
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>>335803642
Why did Cordana have to turn to Gul'dan? I wanted her and Khadgar to get together and have half elf babies...
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>>335803642
>killed countless orcs
Best thing about him
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>>335803676
>Btw, the petition has no way of deterring duplicates. It's also signed by a ton of people who have never played and will never play WoW. It has no legitimacy
This, most of the signs are from shitters like Jontron who basically blackmaild his youtube fanbase to sign the petition, even if most of them probably are too young to even know vanilla or bc
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>>335803814
>Cordana
Who the fuck?
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>>335803702
>order hall missions
>content

Retailcucks are the swedes of videogames

Can't make this shit up
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>>335801540
>Ox Troop Trainger
So is she... prepping the bulls?
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>>335803676
The petition is for a vanilla server isn't it? Granted I'd play it in a heartbeat, I'm more interested in BC, and even more are interested in Wrath.

Plus the fact that everyone who wants legacy servers didn't all sign the petition, just those that knew about it.
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>>335801653
>Is Warcraft like Star Wars where you can disregard the books?
Nope, all canon.
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>>335803814
maybe he can corrupt her back or something with his magic dick
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>>335803898
>Nostalrius
>Playable
Sure is more content than you got :^))))))))
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>>335803881
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Cordana_Felsong
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>>335803702
There are plenty of lapsed WoW players who might be tempted back by a Vanilla server. They would most likely buy expansion packs to see how live is, and might even wind up playing live regularly. So I'd say the potential revenue outweighs the cost, especially as current WoW further declines.
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>>335803702
okay, give me an estimate on how much it will cost blizzard to keep a server running up for 1 month.
Now, I will be extremely humble, and let's say one tenth of them will be playing on that server.
So
250/10 = 25k
13euro is a monthly description
25 x 13 = 325 k

325 k euros a month
do you think running a server would cost that much? let's not forget how many active accounts nost had playing, it's far more than 25k
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>>335803925
Eh. Debatable. The books enjoy a longer life than the game's lore (for some reason) but they do get retconned pretty regularly.
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>>335803898
>retail has no content lmaooo xD
>but if were doing the same shit over and over IN VANILLA, it'll be different!

every single time
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>>335803617
Don't talk to me or my wife's anti-cultural marxist consumer revolt ever again.
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>>335803617
>literally all of the arguments against a legacy server are memes
pathetic tbqh, it's you who are like goobergate
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>>335804085
To be fair you need to also include several salaries into those figures for maintenance, QA, administration, etc.

But 25k is also waaaaaay fucking low.
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>>335804117
Is this some kind of new epic falseflagging shitposting to make current wowplayers look like retards?
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>>335803814

>wardens are night elf jailors
>randomly make them bodyguards for non-night elf VIPs

I have no clue why they went with that. Did the writers for WoD think that people were clamoring for a new warden character?
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>>335804085
Legacy servers are gonna be a money sink in the long run, people are gonna complain that there is nothing to do on the legacy servers and quit, cause you can't create more content to vanilla servers as it goes against what it's about. And no I'm not gonna adhere to your random numbers you're spewing
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>>335804117
>play vanilla
>play a 14 month retail content drought

You're not getting anything new either way. I'll take Vanilla, at the very least in the meantime.
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>>335804264
ahaha good one nostcuck, you sure blew him the fuck out
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>>335804247
150k active players on nost.
I can't believe it could take more than ~300k euros a month to support a server unless it's in switzerland on steroids or something
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>>335804293
I'd think they would be interested in dealing with Gul'dan and other Iron Horde bullshit before it fucks up their crap. Remember the last time the Hrode invaded? They had their trees chopped down in Ashenvale.
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>>335803676

I signed it twice.

I hope Blizzard looks at the signatures and sees that King Kai and Piccolo are very passionate about Nostalrius.
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>>335804384
There's a thing called unsubbing.
There's other fish in the sea.
You don't have to play WoW 24/7

jesus christ, you guys should actually thank blizzard for trying to help you quit your wow addiction
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>>335804384
>I'll take the version with the least content, cause god forbid you actually leave draenor on retail and go to any other expansion areas or raids or whatnot
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>>335804297
that's why you have new expansions
also that's pretty debatable
>le randumb numbers haha
kys senpai lmao
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>>335804297
People complain about the lack of content on retail too, it's still going strong even after repeated lengthy content droughts like ICC, DS, SoO, BRF/HFC...
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@335804404
I won't reward your shitpost with a (you) but in case you're actually serious consider suicide, no offense
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>>335804419
>150k active players on nost
Can we stop with this meme, 150k accounts that's been active since when? Since launch? You got no real numbers and just parrot what other angry nostplayers shout
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>>335804629
>active since when
Last 10 days
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>>335804629
that's on the nost site, we're not making up any numbers mate, the server was packing with players
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>>335804485
Literally proving that all those sigs are false.
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>>335804487
I unsubbed a year ago. My point is I don't want to play another game OR the retail content drought. I want to play the game I paid for 13 years ago again, just like I can do with my old SNES games, my old N64 games, my old Unreal games...
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>>335804513
Oh yeah, can you give me any real number on what the devs at blizzard earn, keep in mind that it's different depending in what kind of dev work you do, cause it's pretty embarrasing and replying in memetext and memes doesn't win you a argument kid

>>335804559
People complain all the time, no matter what, people already crying about flying being introduced later in Legion instead of available right at launch
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>>335804750
>Literally proving that all those sigs are false

And? I'm not the guy you're arguing with.
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>>335804746
NO IT WASN'T
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>>335804498
I've been playing since Vanilla and have every worthwhile achievement up to MoP. I even have an Atiesh.

Please tell me what I should go do, and inb4 level your 10th alt.
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>>335804736
Proof it
>>335804746
You're not? Well, let's see then, present me with a image of your proof
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Vanilla WoW is dead. Bury it. Consider it mercy.
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>>335804836
>People complain all the time

Thanks for illustrating my point? There will be bitching about everything, that shouldn't stop you from doing something.
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>>335802128
Nah, we'll get "there must always be a Sargeras!" before Varian puts on a molten bronze beard and fucks off forever.
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>>335804904
You killed mythic archimonde or got in a very good arena team, or you just one of those meme players who collect legendaries and raid mounts way after they're relevant?
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>>335772973

At this point I'll take anything I can get. This fucking expansion is so shit. I just want it to end... Hell i'd be excited for Angry Birds integration if it meant a new WoW patch was coming soon.

I really hope they release the pre-patch sooner rather than later. I know they are always released about a month before expansion release but it be great if it came out after the movie. It would keep whatever idiots come back to the game after the movie till the expansion comes out.

Anyway, the even itself looks a lot more fun than the last 2 we have had.
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>>335804836
I'm asking you, It boggles my mind that it would overall be more money consuming than ~300k euros a month, which is a very very low estimate on how much they will earn
you're also responding with greentext and bullshit

>>335804871
>>335804926
pic


can't you fuck just accept that it benefits everyone to have a legacy server? jesus christ
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>>335803720
No no - I really meant it when I used the word objectively. The patchwork mess that is WoW's current narrative is indefensible. You can like it in the same way that you might like trashy b movie shit, but it's impossible to say that the writing is still great and successfully back up that assertion. It does things that are so fundamentally wrong that, mechanically, the story as a whole can't possibly be considered good. You can say 'it's good', but you would be wrong and most people would be able to demonstrate why.
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>>335804764
That's a shame. If blizz says no then learn to take no for an answer

Or play something else
Or you can continue playing on kronos and whine loudly thinking anyone gives a shit
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>>335805240
My question was, 150k active players since? Since last of december ?That image is nothing but fluff and just as well be made up numbers
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>>335805170
outside of sitting titles who the fuck wants to q wod 3s for fun
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>>335805237
Yeah.. the previous pre-event was like 5 quests and you're done
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>>335805387
>That image is nothing but fluff and just as well be made up numbers
denial
I don't know since when, it's still a big number and a strong reason to consider making a legacy server
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>>335795546
>>335796683
NElves were always going to be shat on, you can't expect anything else to happen to a society ruled by women in a mmo.
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>>335805469
So, you're gonna go with the classic
>Nah, can't be bothered, there is nothing to do, so why engage in raiding or pvp
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>>335805170
No, I quit the month HFC was released, and I have no desire to repeatedly do the same content that may have an extra mechanic or two anymore. Did it for Wrath, Cata, MoP, and early WoD.

And no, I was in a top 10 US guild when our country was actually good at this game. I got everything when it was current.

So my options are to resub and kill "ultra giga nigga archimonde" or not play unless they release legacy servers. I'll take the latter.
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>>335805548
>I don't know since when
Alrightie roonie, all I needed to hear, you're one step closer to understanding not to believe the hype
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>>335803769
>If you don't listen to what I, the customer, have to say about what decisions you shouldn't take with your business then you're a pretentious fuck.
If you can't see what's wrong with this statement than you're either too young for this board or developmentally disabled. I don't really have a dog in this fight, but it's easy to see why people here love ripping on nos fags if this is your general mentality.
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>>335805786
you just pulled it out of the context, read the full sentence, memer.
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>>335805719
Talk is cheap. Post your character as proof.
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>>335805170
i'll just kill m archimonde next expansion and get the same rewards you worked hard for

fag ass
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>>335805676
why would I play something that I don't find fun
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>>335805719
>repeatedly
How can it be repeatedly if you havn't even done it once, be careful, you might enjoy it a bit more than complaining about no-content.
Also
>Playing LFR/Normal and not just skipping to heroic
Non-shitters even avoid heroic and go straight to mythic, but nothing for you.

>Top 10 US guild
Lovin every laugh
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>>335804215
>goobergate
Explain why you dislike Gamergate.
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>>335805276
>yea, you bought are game for full retail price just like every other game you own
>but no, you can't play it unlike every other game you own because I said so

>play something else

I don't want too. I want to play some of the old games I own, namely Burning Crusade and Vanilla. I don't even want it for free...I'll pay a sub fee gladly for a real Blizzard server.

>Kronos

Never played there, never will. Didn't even play Nost. I want to play on an actual WoW server.
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>>335805912
You will never get the feat of strength, and enjoy spending more time farming that mount than I did to get my mythic archi mount.

>>335805928
Great argument, I give you 10/10
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>>335806160
You didn't own the game. You owned the privilege to play the game on their servers.
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>>335805854
That's what other companies do tho. I'm not being arrogant, it's basically their job to listen to the playerbase. once again, it is a benefit for everyone to have a legacy server. And blatantly ignoring your playerbase and pushing your own shit onto the market (i.e. being an unprofessional retard) is very pretentious indeed.
I have to agree with you, there are some quite butthurt nos fags out there, but you can't just go and refuse the demand of a huge number of people, by generalizing what some dumb normies said. That's very unprofessional and stupid
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>>335806107
Explain why the word triggers you anon
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>>335806191
no one gives a fuck about feats of strength
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>>335805907
Threads going to 404 before I can get to my desktop. Make a new thread and I'll give you your jack off material.
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>>335798142
Except private servers don't hold as many as retail at cap
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>>335806350
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>>335806307
It doesn't. I just asked you a question.
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>>335806365
Likely story. You're just like goobergaters. All talk and no show.
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