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Shark is best. Raikiri is best.
Shark is best. Tombo-Kiri is best.
is way of the samurai any good?
>>335768786
3rd for JUST
How do I fight many enemies at once outside of running back and hoping they walk into my sword/spear/hammer?
I am very new to this game and I can't seem to get a handle on what the game expects of me.
Ki Pulse has been helping a lot in single battles but group fights I'm still lost in.
>>335769368
Axe spin2win is pretty good for this, as is the AOE. Not sure about the other weapons. Check your moves and use the style and attack that was the broadest sweeps for your weapon of choice.
>>335769368
Spear mid stance. Mid and low stance help against crowds. Biggest help against crowds is to not pull crowds.
>WHAT THE FUCK WAS I STUCK ON the game
>>335769186
Funnily enough I ended up beating this guy by throwing off all my armor and just poking him with low stance axe for a couple minutes. Probably in efficient as hell but it worked.
>>335769368
run in circles and try to split them up
focus on one while keeping them all in a loop
>>335769368
You can also use arrows and rocks to pull enemies on their own or at most in pairs.
>>335769556
Shurikens are good for this as well.
>>335769493
Given that his lightning attacks fuck me up in one or max two hits gitting nekd is probably not a bad idea at all.
Especially given how many glues I'm burning through. Where's the blessing for more repair items?
How long is this demo?
>>335769186
YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY THE MONKEY MANGLER OF OHKO'S AND LIGHTNING MOLESTATION.
RAIKIRI'S AND SNUGGLY ARMOURS WILL COME TO YOU, BUT ONLY IF YOU POST
'SHOO SHOO NUE NUE' IN THIS THREAD.
>>335769493
Low stance is rather good for the demo bosses. If there's ever a human or yokai that's more agile, then mid might be better.
>>335769648
12 hours if you're shit.
>>335769663
SHOO SHOO NUE NUE
Man fuck this game I downloaded the demo and died in like 1 hit to the enemies. I hope they make it easier in the final product
>>335769648
5-10 hours depending on gudness and fucking around.
I didn't even know this game existed before yesterday. Buying on launch. If this is the demo I think we're going to be in for another fucking Okami.
>the 'final boss' is actually just the end of the tutorial
>>335769663
SHOO SHOO NUE NUE
>>335769753
You get armor pretty quickly, then you can take like five-ten hits.
>>335769186
The first boss gave me more trouble then him. I just spamed triangle with my high stance Axe. I even uploaded a video of it and got 50 views.
Felt like a big man.
>>335769753
>Download game
>Start at a shrine
>Walk into the sea
>Drown
NOTHING I COULD DO
>>335769663
SHOO SHOO NUE NUE
>>335769753
WOOOOWWWWWW
>>335769663
SHOO SHOO NUE NUE
>>335769979
Funnily enough, DSP is actually good at Nioh
>>335769368
The same way you do in souls, duck out of there, kite around enemy, prioritize fast enemies over slow ones(the katana weilders instead of spear weilders) then slowly break them down, wait for an opening, punishing and duck out, rinse and repeat. Play tactical and you'll curb stomp what the game throws at you. Gank squads are a little difficult but you can do it you just have to be patient.
That or equip spear for crowd control
>>335769368
Spear midstance has great sweeping attacks good for multiple people, also if its a small group like 2 or 3 and you prefer your sword don't forget about parries and stuff, most people running at you will do some sort of attack, parry the first guy so he goes past you, switch focus to the next person coming in and take them out.
It works super well once you get it down and shit.
>>335769865Not him but I have a full set of armor and I still go down in about 3-4 if I'm lucky. It is all N armor and I'm not sure what that means.
Also is there a way to repair your weapons?
My stuff is breaking and I haven't found a means to fix it.
>>335769902
>go up to the first enemy that isn't a summonable phantom
>takes all my health in 1 hit
>can only take like 3 hits in block mode before stamina fails
>this is somehow fair
okay
How do I find this on the store? NA here.
>>335770146
You could try attacking him.
>>335770136
Whetstone
>>335770146
How does it feel to be clinically retarded?
>>335770258
I haven't found any at all.
>>335770224
Should be under Demos.
>>335770224
free section
>>335770304
Offer your useless crap at the shrine to get it.
>>335770265
How does it feel to be a dick sucking cuntwad
>>335768786
TUTORIALS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXOu1wG70_k
Is there a way to leave a level?
I'm in the second level but I wanna go back to the first to try some things out.
>>335770437
A something Branch. Check your inventory, you got like five for completing the isle.
>>335768786
is there a way to not die in one hit?
artificial difficulty: the game
>>335768786
Where do you spend coin?
>>335770976
Only thing you can spend it on so far is Kodama Blessings.
>>335770903
Yes, you wear armour.
>>335770976
Blessings at the Shrine, iirc.
>download finished in 21 hours
JUST
>not being wired
im not drilling a hole in my ceiling and im not running cables across the house
>>335769663
SHOO SHOO NUE NUE
>>335770390
That only gives me currency.
Whats the point of the 2 different parries for Katana mid stance?
They seem to do the same thing to me.
>>335771152
Move the ps4 to the cable?
>>335771369
Square puts you behind the enemy. Triangle just prevents it.
>>335771446
I mean, I might not move to get behind the enemy with triangle, but the go past me and my guy turns around, so I'm still behind them.
For all the people complaining about one shots, are you actually meeting the requirements for the armor you're wearing? Otherwise you're pretty much wearing nothing.
Why do I teleport sometimes?
Is it because I Dodge during a ki burst or something?
>>335770075
Well he solo'd DS3
>>335768786
How much is Team Ninja paying you all to shill this shitty game?
Bushido Blade had better combat than this game, and it's ancient in comparison.
>>335771578
Yeah? The fuck do you mean teleport?
>>335771616
Looks like the shitters are up again
>>335771616
You should play it, It's fun
>>335769873
link
>>335771779
I actually have, even made an EU account because I didn't want to wait another day.
It's just so painfully medicore, but it's probably my own fault. I've hyped this game up to myself since I seen it during the TGS stream.
This game is booty blasting me
I've probably played for around 3 hours and I got the key from that demon and then unlocked a bridge shortcut in the next area.
How much is left?
Just beat the oni boat boss. Once you realize you have to hug him and stay up on his ass it gets a lot easier. Its all about timing your blocks and attacks and watching his movements and then baiting him into moves in the second phase. Really good boss overall.
Ki burst comboing into the katana sheathe/quickdraw attack is pretty satisfying
>>335771917
Why do you believe it's mediocre?
>>335771934
>Staying on him
How the hell did this work, when I tried staying on him he would just slam his balls down. I found that staying at the edge of his attacks and going in after worked a lot better.
>>335771874
I'm too embarrassed to do that.
>>335771932
To finish the demo and get the free DLC all you have to do is beat the boat boss.
There's another level you can do but it's optional. If you decide to do it then prepare to get your ass kicked.
>>335772073
It's okay anon. I won't laugh at you :333
I think I'd like Willy's look more if he had a beard.
>>335772061
Its all about dodging into the side he is attacking on and going under his attacks and learning to read those sweeping chainball attacks. After trying to stay outside of his attacks for a good 20 or 30 deaths I finally just dove in learned block timing and used ki bursts to keep up my ki while attacking him constantly. Worked great and I got him on my second time doing it.
Second phase is completely different and I just baited him into walking across the room to get balls and hit him during that walk cycle
>>335772205
I'm not worried about being laughed at.
DSP is actually good at nioh
>>335772018
Weapons break pretty fast, excluding axes. I prefer axes anyhow, so it wasn't too bad.
Armor also, but once I got better that problem became a non issue.
Since weapons are meant to come and go, builds are basically nonexistent, so replayability will probably be low.
You can only have two talismans/ninjutsus on your quick item slot which makes me not want to waste points on more than two. I usually do a weapon buff talisman, and the one that greatly increases stamina regen.
The gameplay is okay at best, though I think it'll be really fun against another human. The roll feels useless, but I could be wrong, and admittedly probably am. The enemy designs are pretty bland so far, but we've only seen two missions.
I also hate that it's mission based, I would have loved to explore the world.
>>335772518
Which stance did you favor the most?
>>335772576
I main axe too, and I usually go mid if there is more then 2 enemies. If there is only one enemy, then high stance is the way to go. If you are good at recovering your ki you can pratically spam your strong attack and will almost never lose a 1v1.
>>335772576
High for one, or a sneak back attack.
Mid for two+ enemies.
>>335772518
whetstones and glue, are pretty much thrown at you and mitigate your first three lines.
They don't give you many in the first area because you're supposed to be testing out different weapon styles.
I just got the electric dog fucker
R8 my stats. how fucked am I?
>>335772808
The feeling that roll is useless probably stems from your reliance on high stance so much. I can't really blame you for sticking with high on an axe since low is kinda awful but low stance is where all roll/dodge becomes better since the stance is built around evasion. What you could try, if you ever pick it up again, is stance dancing in between high and low for better dodges.
>>335772910
Don't know where you got the feeling that I hated roll, but I think the roll on mid stance is perfectly fine. If i'm going against two enemies, I can always use the first swing attack, ki pulse, then jump back. Low stance is fine, but the damage is a little to low for me. I'm pretty sure i'm close to the boss of the 2nd stage, and i've mainly stuck with the axe the whole time.
>>335768786
This games combat infuriates me.
It's trying to be a souls game while adding in a bullshit mechanic when you run out of stamina.
This so called samurai has the endurance of a 76 year old paraplegic.
>>335769368
Run, they chase, turn around hit then once or twice and repeat.
99.99% of the time you can avoid ganks altogether.
>>335773437
You have to use the instant recovery stuff.
>>335773437
Ki Burst
>>335773050
Will do.
I definitely plan on picking it back up, I want to love this game, even if I have to force myself.
What do you all think the 'mark of the conquerer' will do?
Will it just be a cosmetic?
>>335773607
I'm kind of hoping it's a costume or something that won't become useless after the first hour, either that or a special set of armor that has like a special effect on it like you always get one shot but has a huge buff on it.
>>335770903
Armor actually matters in this game. I went from being one shotted by Nue to strolling through the fight just by putting on lightning resistant gear.
>>335773437
The stamina/ki isn't too bad in combat. It's just really shitty for sprinting, especially when you run out. It shouldn't auto crumple you.
>>335773607
Probably a cosmetic or maybe Yokai William-sama. I'd love for it to be the earth guardian spirit but there'd probably be some bitching then.
>>335773757
>run out of ki, auto crumple
>non grunts run out of ki, can still block and have to be kicked to get into staggered
fucking bulshit
>>335774001
You have to perform an action or get hit after running out for it to crumple you. That applies to the player too.
The problem is that holding down X from sprinting counts, even though you were already holding it down.
>>335773990
I am kind of hoping for something goofy like the Panda costume from Onimusha.
Is it possible to get yokai weapons?
>>335774001
That's not the worst, the worst is youkai that run out of ki and can still attack.
I wasn't expecting that and got killed for it.
>>335768786
I like fire dog. Shark is cool too though.
>>335775264
Youkai are using human weapons for the most part
>>335775479
Fire is a wolf
>>335769095
Late, but yes. All four games.
They're very short but very replayable. Many many endings and paths. Each playthrough is a new story. Great games.
>>335775526
Looks more like a shiba tbqh
>>335775526
>a wolf
Damn I hoped it was a fox.
>>335775479
The puppers is the lightning.
>>335772896
>217 defense
how
You're likely fine as long as you dodge the four lightning strikes in a row, but I had around like 350 defense at that point in medium gear.
>>335773607
Most people are thinking it'll just be some special equipment or a unique Kodama or something.
>>335775636
Shiba is lightning Raikiri, Kato is definitely a wolf
>>335775640
>>335775526
Press L2 and read the discription.
>>335775646
>how
Anon look at his armor style.. Also it's not that out there.
who /strength+jutsu/ here? Love destroying onis with my flaming battle axe.
I'm having trouble when there are 2 or more enemies.
What's a good strategy against multiple enemies? I'm not feeling the High Stance. Running doesn't help since everyone and their grandpa can catch me.
>>335776036
mid stance for all weapons has the side sweeping attacks
>>335776036
Use low stance or mid stance spear for crowd control. Also get a bow and arrow to kill off some enemies from afar. Headshots kill almost every human instantly.
>>335776036
Mid stance spear.
>>335776006
You mean strength+spirit. Or work on your katana parries
>>335775708
What dose guiding Kodamas back to the shrine actually do?
>>335776036
Initiate with a bow headshot whenever you can, but I had a lot of luck darting back a bit and preemptively swinging medium into crowds. As long as you dodge back afterwards, axefags can't punish the swing.
Bombs and and probably flame shuriken are also good against tight groups.
>post yfw backflipping onis
>>335776246
Lets you pay for buffs to specific item drops.
>>335776246
Improves the buffs you can buy from them
>>335776036
In addition to mid stance spear, flame shuriken. Toss it into a group and light them all up for half their health.
>>335776006
Do the shurikens and fire paper regenerate everytime you visit a shrine?
>>335776246
Increase your Kodama blessing by 5% for a specific blessing. There's an anon or two that believe they may also increase your starting elixir amount if you get all of them.
>>335776246
They add multipliers to certain things, like in Salt and Sanctuary. One gives you extra souls, another a better drop rate for weapons, one for armour and so on. You need one of each type (The different hats), and additional ones of that type add an extra 5%.
>>335776246
Upgrades the % on the blessings they offer.
>>335776246
Kodamas give you a blessing at the shrine. Its stuff like "50% more likely to get armor drops."
>>335776374
Yes. Kinda broken if you ask me. There's a lot of tough enemies that spawn near shrines and all you have to do is use the fire scroll to easily kill them.
>>335776353
Strong stance them nyugguhs.
>>335776353
They can't handle my weebfu katana skills
>>335776246
Gives those kawaii fuckers a place to chill.
>>335772449
Just post it you loser.
>>335769902
>tfw this legitimately happened to me
>>335769663
SHOO SHOO NUE NUE
>>335769095
>>335775546
what this anon said, WOTS is a great and underrated series. Play the second one for the PS2.
Also Bushido Blade, Brave Fencer Musashi, and Blood Will Tell for the complete samurai experience.
>>335776640me too
It's usually the first thing I do in games with water
I want to know where I can walk and where I can't
>>335776768
>no mention of Onimusha or Genji
>not using the flashiest armor with a wig and spear in the final game for the optimal YOOOOOOOOOOOO experience
>>335776607youtube.com/watch?v=0PMBpEQ8Mzo
>>335776640
>had like 20000 amirate
>see something near the sea
>go and collect it
>somehow after the animation ends I end up in the ocean
>apparently you can't get your amirate back after falling off the map
Why does every screen I see of this game look like ps2?
>>335775646
I just equip shit with the best stat effects. Is that a shit strategy?
how /ninja/ can I get in this game? I know shurikens and shit exists, but I want to go full stealth, never getting caught and killing my enemies without anyone noticing me. As soon as I shoot an arrow into a crowd, I'm bombarded, whether they could have possibly seen me or not.
>>335777032
the graphics aren't really that great
also gameplay is floaty as fuck as any other Koei game
>>335769902
I died like this a few minutes into the game.
>>335777153
Kinda. In the beginning, its totally fine. But once you get to bosses and harder enemies that are more agile, you're gonna realize that you can't just muscle everything.
>>335777169
It's a hack and slash and not a stealth game.
You can't stealth.
>>335777169
Aim for their heads. Even then, some dudes wear arrow proof hats and you just aggro them.
That's when you bust out your caltrops an shit.
>>335777243
Well fuck. I guess I shouldunequip my level 10 armor and put on level 20+ armor with good defensebefore fighting the dog
>>335777153
Until the first boss, just equip the gear with the highest defense. After that good rare/unique gear starts dropping and you can be more picky with what you wear for bonus stat increases.
You really need the defense early on to not get 2-shot by everything.
>>335776516
That's a very nice quality image. I'm going to steal it, I don't plan to every use it but I like it for preservation reasons.
So if I really love DS3, will I probably like this game? Gonna download it now
>>335777587
Don't go into it expecting to be able to play it exactly like Souls or BB, because you'll get your ass handed to you. Just give it a bit of time and play conservatively until you get a handle on how the game works
How do I onryokai?
He's smashing my armor to pieces
>>335777587
Yes. It is a Souls clone no one can deny that. But the combat is more like an action game than Souls's slow shield and parry/counter shit.
>Ninja-core
Ninja Gaiden
Shinobi
Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
Mark of the Ninja
>Samurai-core
Ni-Oh
Onimusha
Way of the Samurai
Samurai Warriors
Dynasty Warriors
Sengoku Basara
Genji: Dawn of the Samurai
Blood Will Tell
Bushido Blade
Brave Fencer Musashi
>Daimyo-core
Shogun: Total War
Nobunaga's Ambition
>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-core
Okami
>>335777747
Light your axe/sword on fire and go to town.
Also, dodge and counterattack. Learn his moves and attack when he's in the ending frames. Repeat until dead.
>>335777587
Possibly. It has some Souls influence so fans of the series may like Nioh as well. I know I certainly like both. It's more of its own thing though and the combat is not quite the same.
>>335768786
I just beat the boat boss & haven't try 2nd Island, do I need to beat it to get Raikiri or it's just a random loot?
Does anybody else thought the boss was easier compared to regular mobs?
>>335777878
>Samurai-core
>Dynasty Warriors
Anon, Zhou Tai is not a samurai.
>>335776353
>MFW I time my high axe flip so that the first hit is just before they flip and the second hits before they hit the ground
>>335778019
Gotta beat second level once for the Raikiri. Doing it again nets you a spear.
A little of both. I find Oni to be more infuriating than singular humans.
>>335777878
>no Shinobido under ninjacore
Absolutely disgusting.
>>335778025You attack it's weak point for massive damage!
I missed the Oni to left of the boat, did I missed anything out?
>>335777747
Kick him a lot in the first phase to tear through his stamina and make him a combo ragdoll. Slash his horns when he slams balls down for an easy three to four free hits before he swipes in retaliation.
Second phase is easier once you get it down. Dodge the thrown balls to the right, and punish him when he ends a swinging combo with a belly flop.
>>335777287
You fucking have to stealth, every encounter needs to be 1v1 or you're dead.
>>335778194
A purple spear that is probably worse than what you already have.
I fucking did it
I finally beat the Nue
God I loved that fucking boss, fighting him felt so good, especially compared to the first boss, which was just a waiting game.
Also tfw you finally figure out ki burst and wreck all the wandering oni enemies in the second level
I need this game in my life
I need more of it
>>335777747
Most of his attacks give a huge opening, first phase was seriously easy but second phase is pretty bullshit, just don't get greedy, use high stance Axe(heaven & earth & keep rolling on his back.
>>335778325
Thank God I didn't bother, fuck those Oni's, they give me more trouble than Onroyuki, actually beat him on my 3rd try.
jesus fuck what the fuck is the movement in this game
>>335778338
Doesn't Ki burst works the same way as pressing R1 after a combo? What difference does it make?
>>335778437
A lot of people are being tripped up by lock-on not causing them to always face that enemy. Blocking with keep you facing them though/turn you towards them instantly.
Maybe I don't have a problem with it becauseI beat DeS1 without using lock-on because I forgot it existed.
>>335778609
just in general its kind of garbage. clunky? yeah that.
>>335768786
I literally can't get past the first part. The first samurai just one shots me every time. Not even the souls games are this punishing
>>335778536
Ki burst, if is that yeah. Pretty sure anyway. Unless it's the dodge in low stance then it gives your dodge a few i-frames.
>>335778338
Congrats. Nue's pretty fun.
>One eyed mini demon gets away
>Try to cut him down before he transforms
>Too late
>Battle ensues
>Does the belly flop attack
>Strong attack, he does his 'oh fuck my eye' animation, despite having his head lopped off
>Falls over, gets stuck
10/10 demo
In all seriousness, this is pretty great
Also, Nue is weak to Earth. Invest in earth charms if you can.
When is the official release date for this?
>>335779184
>When is the official release date for this?
TBA 2016, officially.
Obviously it's nothing concrete or anything, but a few stores out of England listed it up for pre-order about a week and a half ago with a release date of October 28.
>>335779184
>Nue is weak to Earth
Is he? I woulda thought wind.
>Onryoki
>Swings his ball and chain
>Dodge into it
>Get hit because I dashed before dodging
Can you just not dodge it? I can't imagine the fight is 1-2 hits then run away when he swings.
>>335779291
I could be wrong, but when I use my Earth Charms on 'em, he gets the debuff a lot faster. I'll try wind as well next time.
Also, another fun fact. Do NOT use the Himorogi branches. They'll take you back to the world map and reset your progress on the level. Learned this the hard way.
>patrolling cyclopes onis in the second area respawn
>so do the little tongue guys that transform into them
Scared
Why are people calling this the next evolution of the souls games?
I mean, it might be worth a test run, but when compared to any of the souls games, it seems lacking in almost all departments. It looks more comparable to a new Onimusha, if anything.
>>335779537
>debuff a lot faster.
Which weapon and style were you using? I noticed that low stance spear and kat tends to build up debuffs real fast for obvious reasons.
>>335779627
There's only one patrolling one eyed one.
Getting to that first shortcut in level 2 is a fucking nightmare.
How the fuck do you avoid being swarmed by the samurais? They get me every time and it's getting annoying
>>335779674
Well, I didn't really look too closely at the other ones. I just booked it to the shortcut and haven't been further than the one eyed one since I killed it to see if it respawned and it did.
>>335779627
The are really easy to beat though.
>>335779642
It's better than DaS3 or DaS2. I think BB is the only one that can compete with it, and Nioh is still just an unfinished demo.
>>335779742
Use stones and/or arrows to draw them so you can 1v1 those faggots
>>335779742
Aggro them one at a time. Use rocks or arrows to get their attention. Enter the residence from the partially hidden side entrance. There is another shrine over there anyway.
just beat the Demo, the two bosses were really fun. I may pick this up down the road. trying to help people get threw their levels is a nightmare though, I haven't had one successful co-op session.
>>335779742
Stones, shurikens for pulling, use flame shurikens when they're grouped up, or pick them off with arrow headshots. Armored samurai can't be headshot but the usual outlaw/bandits can.
Spear has moves specifically for positioning. The guard+square one where you throw the enemy behind you has saved my ass many times vs groups.
Ninja stuff is pretty neat. The makabishi are a godsend, slows enemies down even works on bosses. I would totaly roll as a ninja
>>335779674
Axe, low stance.
Any other charm I use doesn't build as fast.
Speaking of debuffs, does anyone know what they all do? Fire provides a DoT and Earth makes it so attacks use a lot more Ki. I'm not sure what Water and Wind do.
>>335780202
Lightning probably slows them down. No idea for water or wind.
>>335780041
I think I will max out fire shuriken and kekkai talismans, get just enough to get all the boost from the guardians, then go full katana beyond that.
>>335780252
>kekkai talismans
Didn't try these what do they do?
>>335780340
Cleanse areas of the underworld also increase ki recovery. They kind of trivialize the stamina drain in Nue's fight.
>>335777906
So how do I set my weapons on fire?
>>335780340
They auto dispell the patches demons leave on the ground when you step into it, and they rapidly regen your ki (It's ridiculously quick) until they run out.
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>>335780457
Fire amulet or Fire Talisman from the Omnyo skill tree.
>>335769865
nice textures lol
garbage.
>>335780717
Fuck off man he is actually contributing to the thread.
>beat Kou Shibusawa's phantom
>he drops a cool purple Katana
>scales on strength when you are going skill/heart/body
>>335780745
Ok, I do know I acquired the fire skill last night, but I hadnt figured out yet how I activated a fire Talisman, couldn't find it in my inventory. Then again I was drunk...
>>335781037
You have to set it at the shrine then you just treat it like an item that regens at shrines/death.
>>335781037
You prep them at the shrine.
Hope they balance this right. Game is pretty fun but after beating Nu going back to the first level non-oni enemies pose 0 threat and can be fought 4+ at a time. Bit worried game will become too gear dependent and builds won't be very diverse.
>>335781097
Oh I see. Thanks for the help anon.
>>335781172
Hopefully there is a NG+ mode that scales everything to max level and gives them max level drops.
does buffing any stat increase the damage you do from bare hand parry? the one where you grab a human enemies weapon and thrust it into em?
like strength maybe?
>>335768786
how do i parry? legit question. i know theres the timed block but that just opens them up for a hold triangle grapple stab
Fuck that boat boss. It shouldnt be this hard, his attacks are obvious, but I fucking hate farming for elixirs. At least with Bloodborne, your surplus vials are put into storage.
>>335781450
There is no real parrying
There is a move with katanas that lets you move behind someone if you time a square press right while guarding
>>335781450
Mid or low stance. You probably bought the parry without realizing it.
>>335780978
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>>335781570
That's what a parry is. Also if you quickly tap the attack button during the parry you will land a riposte too.
You also have to unlock some of the parries in the skills menu to parry.
>tfw finally getting the hang of the combat system
>Taking on a group of dudes at once
>Slicing motherfuckers up and beating ass
>Letting out my inner weeb
Okay this went from rosey to actually really fucking cool
Man I am still trying to get through the second level and I've spent a good few hours making what seems to be not an awful lot of ground. I unlocked the shortcut, I'm just slowly chipping away at the huge mobs and surprise boss mobs around the area.
I like that you can sink hours into this game though, I would have like to have completed the demo by now but I think I'll need another day at least, holy fuck this game is awesome and this demo has serious legs.
>>335781570
why lie to the man
with fists equipt holding block and pressing triangle will parry insta kill most human enemies, and you can unlock parries for both katana and spear. a katana parry will do some damage and leave them open and a spear parry takes them to the ground open to a ground attack (triangle while standing over an enemy)
>>335781560
You don't really need more than three elixirs for him honestly
How are you fighting him? Staying close and blocking or dodging in after he has attacked
They better fix the dash shit before release
>>335781746
What dash shit?
>>335781730
Going for a strength build. Dodging his moves even with my build is easy, its just that I keep messing up. I've only managed to face him three times and I've cut his health down in half once, but each of those times I went to face him I had ten elixirs on me. I think I may be underleveled, but I'm not certain. Even going strength, it still takes a long time to get him to the halfway point.
>>335781560
Extra elixirs roll over after death
If you are taking enough damage in the first phase to have to use one just wipe and try again
>>335781874
You sticking solely with axe? Learning how to swap in and out of low or mid would probably help against him immensely.
>>335781874
Breaking his horns stuns him and lets you get in a fuck ton of damage.
>>335781560
Offer all your spare items at a shrine for an easy ten elixirs
Kick a lot in the first phase to eat him alive while he's exhausted, and I had a lot of luck dodging in and out with the low stance in the second phase since it has Ki recovers on dodges.
Levels mean nothing for the most part unless it's keeping you from a gear upgrade.
>>335781874
Try hugging him more and learning to block his sweeping attacks. Dodge into the side he attacks on when he raises his chainball and hit twice then block the counter sweep. Just try staying on his side attacking constantly and blocking those sweep attacks and make sure to use Ki Bursts so you have stamina to block
Also get the ninjutsu for the floor spikes since those lower his stamina a bunch and let you stagger him quicker
For the second phase just learn to dodge the balls and have him throw them across the area. When he goes to pick them up and throw them again attack. Dont attack when he is trying to attack you directly and make sure to Ki Burst those underworld spots so you dont run out stamina at the wrong time
Do you guys think it will be easier to repair stuff in the full game?
I had a lot of fun playing through it, but I had to go farm for some glue after getting my ass kicked by Nue for like an hour. It wasn't too bad, since the boxes seem to occasionally drop repair items. But it would still be faster if we could just buy them from a merchant or better yet, just repair stuff at the shrines.
>Do my axe flip on a zombie fucker
>His shitty grab animation cancels my attack
Jesus fuck, this is shit
>>335782330
Smith or a merchant is a high possibility I think
>>335782330
The loot system is probably the weakest part of the game for me. They need to try and change it. I wish they would do away with durability entirely but they at least need to make repairing weapons and armor easier.
friendly reminder that you can follow up on both the square and triangle parries by pressing square one more time instead of just pushing them and follow up with a normal attack.
pic kinda related, how i feel when i do a parry.
>>335780781
>le bad gramphic maymauy
better than the PC textures ;^)
>>335782483
Yeah but i think that does less damage than manually attacking enemies
Will this game have PvP? Because the combat seems like it would be really fucking cool for PvP since fighting other humanoids is all about reading their stance
>>335776907
>mfw every nioh thread will have at least one YOOOOOOOOOOOO moment
I cant wait
>>335782589
I damn wish it would
PvP is a huge part of Souls, I hope they got that right
>>335782435
Yeah, I know what you mean. It seems like we get overloaded with a bunch of junk weapons and everything feels really disposable. I would prefer if we could just buy or find a nice solid weapon that we could keep upgrading instead of having random loot drops.
With that said, I'm really liking my level 43 lightning katana that I got from Nue.
>>335782330
I have 9 glue/9 whetstone on me at all times. Sometimes I'll use one just to pick up another.
Makes the durability system seem pointless to me.
>>335782575
b-but the style and flare of it all!
I dunno. I do like 1100 or something. and it still fuck their ki so. it allows for a follow up regardless.
>>335782649
I think Diablo system works good, this and solid combat really distinguishes it from Souls where you use one weapon most of the time
>>335782589
They've vaguely said something about interfering with other people's games, which sure sounds like invasions to me.
How do I get good?
I'm using Ki pulse(And absolutely love the mechanic) but lots of encounters wreck my shit and three heals feels pretty low.
I'm not sure what I am doing wrong.
>>335777798
I would say its like a faster, more meticulous Bloodborne.
>>335782791
Offer trash equipment to the shrine. You can get up to 10 elixirs doing that.
Combat, all about knowing when you can strike and when to keep the guard up. Don't think every slice is going to stun the enemy. Pull when possible.
>>335782435
>>335782649
>>335782690
Take into the account that there is a visible thing in the game that we can't do anything about yet, which is familiarity. It says 0/999.
Think of it like this, the more familiar you are with a weapon, the better you are going to be with it. In the game this can mean a few things, but the two i can think of are as follows
1, It increases your strenght more or makes a spesific stat more important to that weapon (say that heart gave a B rating before, now gives A-)
2, it's the thing that allows for more skills to become avaliable, which would mean that it's catering to the weapon TYPE rather than the weapon itself.
Either way i think it works well. Add that to the fact that the weapons and armor you don't need can be offered for free exp and free shit overall, it balances out.
I'm fine if the game caters to the weapon type only. Seeing only revenants with the same armor and weapons would get old quickly.
>>335782791
Use rocks and bows
Mid stance parries are your best friend
>>335782690
I was fine on whetstones, but glue started becoming a problem when I hit the Nue fight, since I would just run to him and ignore most enemies (except those fuckers near the door) every time he would inevitably one shot me.
Yeah, I know I'm shit.
>>335782756
cold be referring to co-op and the aggressive blood stains. I think invasions would be bad for the game.
>>335782690
Name a durability system that isnt pointless
>>335782612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap_NkPCkl4c
I think they should ditch the Souls formula for PVP. Just have pvp matchmaking arenas for various level ranges. Hell, you can even do match modes like TDM and the like if you want.
>>335782791
Build your skill and stat tree, especially for the main weapon you want to use. Mine is the katana btw.
Also high stance is quite effective for most encounters. Make sure to follow up with your combos with combo finishers too if you have the skill unlocked.
Also after you combo someone you don't have to run away, if you just move the stick slightly you will remain in stance and regain your stamina.
>>335781839
while dashing the character randomly just stops dashing and then goes into dash again. If it's just me experiencing this then my controller must be dying.
>>335782612
>YOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU
Here's your (YOOOOOOOOOOOO)
>>335776995
Ya did good, m8
>>335782791
Stance swap, know what works for you.
Encounters with mutiple people should be done in mid stance, preferably with a spear.
There is no back stab but hits to the back of enemies deal bonus damage.
Block, its SUPER useful and loads of people seem to forget about it.
Use items and magic, a fire shurikan can be a good opener or finisher and there are talismans that slow enemies right down.
Figure out your own combos and shit with stance switching.
Using the shark spirit lets you see enemies on the minimap, which might help you not get jumped.
what are some actual games with YOOOO moments
all I can think of is DDR
>>335782993
Naw it should not be group PvP because tbqh the group combat in this game is terrible.
I would be okay with an arena and not just invasions though.
>>335777203
>gameplay is floaty as fuck
read this as: im bad, so let me call the game clunky. never gets old.
>>335783142
>that webm
>doing all that shit against an enemy that I can take down in two hits
>>335782612
>>335782974
>>335783097
Anyone know any other vidya songs that actually start with YOOOOOOOOOOOO?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4adfCKft7w
this game feels like if capcom made dark souls first for the ps2
>>335783217
Its no fun if you aren't flashy on occasion, also I was trying to work out the timing.
That one actually fucked up because its suppose to go into the spinning pole kick from the leap over.
Ok, so is it optimal to just kill the first few enemies, head back to shrine and level. Rinse and repeat for a few times before heading deeper?
>>335783376
Yep
Feel free to practice on those red sword mounds as well since they will help you get better at the combat
what enemys drop good repair shit?
I wish you could buy these at the shrine
>mfw I just went naked and ran through all the enemies and had a summon defeat the boss
I'm hardcore now.
>>335783376
I'd say thats an alright idea.
Leveling doesn't help you THAT much stat wise, but it will get you some skill points to give you are couple of moves that will help out.
does this have a character creator?
>>335783443
About as hardcore Lady "Bloodmaster Edge" Maria!
>>335783442
Farm the captains or whatever you want to call them. The guys in good armor drop items a lot more than anyone else
>>335783519
Only Geralt.
>>335783519
no
but the fact that when you're on the world map it says and shows the character in a weird way I bet there are different characters later you can play
>>335783119
Thanks.
Quick, go to the status screen and post your William!
how much of the demo is there after the boat boss
>>335783519
I wish. I really wanted to make a slutty ninja girl. Too bad we're stuck looking at notGeralt. Good thing we can completely cover up his dumb face.
>>335783885
An entire level and boss.
>>335769186
Does this guy have any relation to rajang?
>>335783885
There's still a whole other area full of tough ass onis and another boss. Make sure to bring some lube with you.
>>335783142
I have Fire 1 talisman but I can't equip Fire 2x talisman, how do I do that?
>>335783945
It's a "Nue", kind of a Japanese folklore equivalent of a Chimera.
One was a boss in Genji, as well.
This demo has more content than most games lol
>>335783885
About an hour or two unless the next area really confuses you.
>>335783896
if you didn't tell them to add Team Ninja quality waifus in the survey, you made a mistake son
>>335784026
You need you magic capacity to be higher, which you get by putting points into magic and stuff.
>>335784093
>which you get by putting points into magic and stuff.
>into magic and stuff.
Please be more specific if you can =/, I would kill for another fire paper or fire shurikens for that matter
>>335784135
level up and see what increases where. hint: magic is where it's at.
Capacity is what you're looking for spesifically.
I really hate the axes and hammers in Nioh. The swords and spears look fine, perfectably believable weapons appearance wise. Same with the armor. Then you have these massive axes and hammers that no man could properly use. I know there's magic and demons and shit but when everything looks right and then you have this one weapon type that doesn't fit it's jarring. The heads of the hammers on your back also block your view a lot depending on what the camera feels like doing in a fight.
>>335784135
You know how when you level up you put points into things like heart/body/skill/magic/spirit?
Putting points into magic gives you magic skills points, which let you buy more magic skills, but i also raises your magic capacity, which lets you ready more magic at shrines.
I think for Fire II you need a magic capacity of 4, if you can only slot Fire I chances are you only have a capacity of 2.
>>335784030
Are the Genji titles any good?
>>335784135
Putting points into Dexterity gets you more Ninjutsu slots. Magic, more Onmyo slots. You can slot different tiers of the same skill. For example: 3 fire shurikens and 4 fire for 7 fire per shrine visit.
>>335784135
Put points into magic and it will raise your jutsu capacity
Just killed the boat demon. Guy is a cakewalk, you literally only need to run behind him and poke his ass with your weapon.
So, When do I get to fill the survey? When do they give the link to it?
>>335784072
I want to ask them to add titty demon in the full game.
I'm doing the most boring build ever: mid stance katana, no parrying, just timed attacks. Full heart stat dump for more ki. How bad an idea is this? I just beat the boat boss on my second try so I'm thinking it's pretty viable. Any thoughts?
Does anyone remember where the first Kodama is hidden?
>>335784283
Type Nioh survey into google and its the first result
>>335784329
Thats fine honestly
As long as you arent slow and can dodge still you are golden
>>335784329
I did something similar to this and it worked out fine. That katana mid stance is really damn good. I suggest keeping a spear as a backup for some crowd control though.
>>335784329
I would do parries more often but the window seems like SUPER tiny.
I can probably pull it off like 1/5 of the time.
>>335784509
This, Normaly i go full meathead pure strenght but this game fucks you up if you aren't psssh nothin personell fast
That one Katana you get that has the purple blade is amazing.
>>335784619
Same, I always hit it right before they attack but I just miss the window. I hope they fix that but at the same time I know if can be fixed if I got gud which makes me want to learn how to do it and be good at it. I fkn love this game 2bh
>>335784619
parrying against katanas is impossible for me, but spears and axes have a pretty big parry window
>>335784261
The first one was good, but would probably be a bit dated now. The second one was crap, though.
>>335784261
They're okay. Combat is nothing special and the camera can be kind of shit sometimes, but the setting and a couple of the boss fights are alright. Play Onimusha first if you haven't already.
Whats another day on /v/ without another KT shill thread.
Don't own PS4 but this game looks neato. Are spears/naginatas and shit good or is it katana or bust?
>>335784783
I'm pretty fine with games being dated, so I should skip 2 then?
>>335784872
I've played Onimusha before, how's it stack up in comparison?
>>335785203
Weapons in the demo are spears, katanas, and axe/hammers
>>335785254
Right but are they gud.
Either way sounds like a fun game, hope ya'll enjoy it.
dude...I like it
>>335785203
Honestly spears definitely need a buff or more skills on release. They have a good one trick wonder with the high spear multi thrust, but otherwise it just seems to be better to use a Katana.
Haven't tried axes though.
>>335785203
Spears are god tier for crowd control
Katanas are great for single targets
Axes are great for bosses
At least thats been my experience so far. More than anything the game is about changing shit up using different stances and weapons depending on your situation
>>335785160
>the 70+ people saying they enjoying this game are all shills
kys
>>335785207
I'd say it's the closest game to Onimusha just nowhere as good. Camera is worse, less replay value and content, bosses aren't as memorable, story is forgettable and I remember the first game being really easy (second one can be kind of a pain on hard mode though).
The first Genji is definitely the better of the two though, the second one has a lot of shitty parts now that I'm remembering it more.
>>335785308
Yeah they're good. Takes some getting used to though.
>>335785337
Have you tried low stance spear at all? Ken-sama gets to pursue. Also the windmill is fun as hell. Mid needs something though to stand out.
>>335785207
I'd say two's worth a play if you enjoyed the first one (If not just for the excellent soundtrack), but the absolutely Godawful camera came close to ruining it all, at least I thought. It's pretty much only remembered for "GIANT ENEMY CRAB!"" at E3 2006.
They're more outright action games that Onimusha (Yoshiki Okamoto, who was heavily involved with the first two Onimusha games, created the Genji games after he left Capcom). No residual Resident Evil influence or large amounts of exploration or anything, just 99% combat with some very basic RPG elements.
Has a guide for the little guys been made yet?
>>335785403
Guess I'll give the first game a try then, thanks for the info.
>>335785203
Spears seem very powerful to me, might even be the secret top tier weapon. They have the most range, a parry that buffs your damage, that really fast trip move that gives a free ground stab, and great mobility with the pole vault that can even go into plunging attack. All the weapons have their strong points though, it's more about using what works with you.
>>335784741
I dunno man, the window for unarmed parrying seems super big in comparison.
Tried reasoning that its like that because if you miss it when weaponless well yo get smashed, but then I was like, well, even if you have a sword and miss the parry you get smashed, plus, so far an unarmed parry is always an instant kill.
>>335785358
All KT threads are essentially 3:1 or 4:1 posts-to-posters samefag threads.
Hyrule Warriors, DOA5, DOAX3, Ni-oh - same shit different day.
>>335785421
Right I'll get 2 if I enjoy 1 enough.
>No residual Resident Evil influence
Shame, I really liked how the first Onimusha was basically just RE with swords
What are the chances of the full game having more indepth unarmed combat?
What are the chances its got more then the 3 main weapons?
>>335785623
That's kinda weird, for me the armed parry windows felt huge compared to unarmed, which was still pretty big anyway. I really like how going unarmed is pretty much just play perfect or die though, it's cool and makes total sense.
>>335785649
Okay keep telling yourself that there is a secret conspiracy to shill games on a site that hates game and doesnt even buy them if they can
Does the game have Ninja gear? I know that it has Ninjutsu skill tree.
>>335785414
Mid is amazing against humans. You can guard poke and push them behind you while the parry gives you bonus damage while slamming them on the ground.d Also pokes for maximum distance and control.
>>335785902
Maybe the lightest armor could qualify, there's also ninja.
>>335785902
You can pretty much look exactly like that in the alpha.
>>335783850
>>335785902
The scout set looks quite ninjalike, but I'd bet my Raikiri there'll be a ton more armour sets in the full game, including a bunch of ninja looking ones.
>>335785902
The lightest one is probably the scout set, though I wouldn't really call that a ninja outfit. But probably in the full game there will be.
>>335786071
There are even ninjas in the game, so I got no doubt.
>>335785649
In the end, you're cheating yourself. From a legitimately fun game
Finally beat the first boss, holy shit that bastard almost piss me off. Glad I'm done with it.
I'm scare to think what the 2nd demo stage boss would be like
>>335786476
The second boss is fine if you're just constantly moving. He's got one extremely powerful attack that catches a lot off people off guard.
>>335783251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XqZFqVbtns
What's the heaviest armor set in the game?
>>335786741
Warlord stuff is consistently heavy. Something like 10 units or close to ten units for top and bottom.
>>335786681
Man, that was a cool boss fight. Hopefully Nioh will have its own version of Ninetails.
What other monsters from Japanese mythology do you guys want to see?
I'm hoping Gashadokuro (big spooky skeleton) and this nigga get in.
>>335787137
Hopefully some Tengu, though I guess they're a given
There needs to be a way of comparing and using items and comparing armour in the map menu. It kinda sucks having to select a level and using a branch to then leave or doing it during a multiplayer session.
>>335787137
I just want a one on one, human-sized swordfight for a boss. The revenants are a step in the right direction.
>>335787468
Press R2 when changing equipment and it cycles between showing the stats of your current equipment and your character stats. Using items would be nice but it's not that important since you can just do it when you go in anyway and you're next to a shrine.
>>335787137
Oni with a giant kanabo
A Rokurokubi which is a demon woman with an infinitely stretching neck or a head that comes off
Also a house full of Tsukogami would be fucking incredible
>>335787549
Also this. Game needs more human bosses
>>335776995
Wow, this actually helped me.
I honestly don't like it, it feels unfair, and this is coming from someone who's beaten NG+7 on Dark Souls in an Oscar cosplay build. It's sorta like walking into the graveyard at the beginning of Dark Souls I, like a lot of players (including myself) did, except, there's nowhere else to go except the graveyard.
>>335787989
>giant kanabo
Fuck, I hope we'll be able to get a kanabo in game. I'd drop the spear in a heart beat if we could.
>>335787342
I'd be surprised if they didn't make it in. I wonder if Team Ninja will give Nyotengu a cameo somewhere? She'd probably fit in pretty well.
>>335787549
I'd love to have a fight inside a bamboo forest against a human opponent. They could use the blind swordsman scene from Ninja Scroll as an inspiration.
>>335768786
Honest question, Does this game have better combat mechanic and hitboxes than Witcher 3?
>>335788213
Witcher 3 has awful combat, most games are better than it, including this one.
>>335788139
I don't know if you've seen the original TGS trailer or not, but we've got some kind of sea monster, a Nurikabe, some kind of skeleton centipede thing that breathes poison and a creepy as hell spider demon woman in a kimono.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhkm_CujrnU
>>335787831
Huh, I knew you could do that in-game but the only thing I could do in the map menu was to go to the sell equipment screen and then switch armours. Never saw the option to display current stats. I could press L2 to see a description but not my current stats.
>>335788106
Stop trying to play it like it is a souls game and you will do better
Block attacks instead of dodging
Use ki burst to get back stamina
Use different stances to attack different opponents. If you haven't even fought an Oni yet then your opinion is pretty much worthless
>>335768786
how can I activate my spirit animal?
>>335787989
>Rokurokubi
Damn, sign me up for that one too. Actually now that I think about it, didn't the Muramasa dlcs have a boss like that?
Gashadokuro was in there too and that fight was goat.
Hopefully Team Ninja will be able to top them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_RV6jnekvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swZlwoy0HSs
>>335788454
Triangle and circle together when your gauge is full.
>>335776768
>Play the second one for the PS2.
2 had the worst combat by far though, but I agree that all 4 are worth playing for various reasons.
There will never be a WotS5.
>>335788330
I should be allowed to play it like a Souls game since
>It has a health and stamina bar incredibly similar to Dark Souls
>You level uo using what's effectively Souls
>You start out weak but become stronger early on
>>335788287
It's that goddamn wall yokai from Okami.
Thank you NT for allowing me to get my revenge.
>>335788456
There is honestly hundreds more monsters they can use from japanese myth. Its full of crazy weird shit that could make great enemies
>>335788454
You must go on a vision quest deep into the desert
Is it safe to say that this is their best game since Itagaki left?
>>335788536
Holy shit for real? Why not try adapting? Also learn to use your stances and your skills
>>335788536
>I should be allowed to play it like a Souls game
No you shouldn't.
>>335788287
I'd forgotten a lot of that trailer, nice. I wonder if that thing at 1:03 is supposed to their version of this son of a bitch?
>>335788536
I love the fact the game slap your ass for playing it like a Souls game.
Play Nioh like it want you to be, adapt to its mechanics of stay on the bench, the game is obviously too hard for you.
>>335773757
>Armor actually matters in this game.
Just not for the enemies.
Neither does stamina.
>>335788628
Yes, easily. This demo has restored my faith in Team Ninja.
>>335788560
>>335788678
It undoubtedly owes a bit to Blockhead.
>>335788770
What the fuck is with your grammar? It's completely broken.
>>335788536
>I should be allowed to play this game which has a very different combat system just like this other game
Well then you will continue to be bad at the game. It isn't unfair it just has a learning curve and its apparently very steep for people who play Souls games because they want to play it like that. There are no i-frames so you actually have to dodge under or away from attacks. Blocking actually negates all damage if you have stamina to block. Stances and switching weapons is what is the core of the game's combat.
Seriously how far have you gotten exactly? Have you made it off the beach? Have you made it to even the second shrine yet?
>>335783203
I'm sorry but Ni-Oh is crap, I won't be buying it unless they fix the clunkiness
>>335788321
Don't do it in the shrine, you're able to just pause like you normally do when on the map screen.
So uuuhm
Is it a souls clone?
>>335788781
>stamina doesnt matter for enemies
Are you serious? Getting an enemy to no stamina means you can grapple them and do massive damage
It also means you can knock the Oni and bosses around once their stamina runs out.
>>335788949
I got to the Oni miniboss and quit because the game won't let me play it how I wanna play it.
>>335789113
You could try gitting gud but that is probably not how you wanna play.
>>335785649
Maybe they make good basic games?
>>335789085
>Its actually hard
>Its more like Onimusha with a Souls style leveling system
>Gear system is different
>NG style ninpo system with animals
It has similarities. But i'm laughing so hard at all the Souls babies losing their shit in the alpha. I didn't know dodge had no iframes myself until the first boss since i just dodged everything perfectly but for that fucker i kept getting clipped.
>>335789185
Did you forget the part where I said I beat Dark Souls on NG+7 with an Oscar cosplay build?
>>335789113
This game is hella fast once you get some armor/weapons and understand how to use items in combat. Unless the way you wanna play is slow as a crawl i don't believe you. And besides the bosses everything in the demo can be done slow as a crawl.
>>335789263
No, but you think that's all gitting gud entails.
>>335789113
Whatever then man. You will never be able to play this like a souls game because it isnt.
>>335789085
Kinda but not really. It feels sort of similar to Bloodborne but with a stamina healing mechanic instead of health so fighting is more involved
>>335789263
>Dark Souls is notably hard meme.
I'll never get tired of it. This game is exposing kiddies like you and its a fucking Alpha for fuck sakes. Id hate to see you sad little creatures attempt Black or 2 on Master or even Mentor/Very Hard. You kids are spoiled by your stupid meta meme game.
Just be glad you have normies to surround you who for whatever reason picked up Souls games so they now spew LOLHARDESTSERIESEVERXD! out their ass daily.
>>335789062
Oh man, I was pressing the gesture button (options).
Thanks bud.
>>335789263
I have to assume this is just a troll and that you arent honestly this autistic
>>335785902
>No Jintaichi or Nodachi ingame
Why
>>335789403
You sound upset.
>>335789486
Maybe in the future. The fact that there's hammers that use axe style might point towards different types of swords and spears in the future.
How do you do the ki AoE finisher? I just get kick every time.
>>335789667
>>335788536
>>It has a health and stamina bar incredibly similar to Dark Souls
Skyrim is Dark Souls now
>>You level up using what's effectively Souls
The only decent comparison you have
>>You start out weak but become stronger early on
This applies to shitloads of games what the fuck
It's irksome seeing people unironically compare this to Souls because it's really just a PS2 era action game.
Rate my Samurai /v/
>>335789583
There's actually already different swords and spears in there with tachis/katanas and normal/cross spears. I also noticed there's two empty spots on the Learn Skills screen and there's an image of a kusarigama on the Equipment screen so there'll maybe be a few more weapon types in the game. Hell maybe we'll even get guns too.
>>335789667
Skill Customization screen, you can set different moves for the inputs you have a skill for on each stance.
So you actually get items from killing the red phantom fags?
>>335790013
>7 stamina
>>335788828
Why did they not just cross the bridge, go in the water and then climb up behind it? I mean it doesn't even look deep...
>>335790013
You rack spirit.
>>335789491
Nope in fact i'm reveling in kiddos who can't handle this Alpha. Its a breath of fresh air to me. I haven't experienced a game this rewarding and challenging in awhile. The first boss took me 10 tries and the first level around 20 deaths granted a few times i was just being absolutely idiotic.
Can't wait to sit down on Friday with the second level and have at it. And i pray they don't tone down the full game for you children.
>>335790031
Yep
Depending on the level they can be pretty powerful
>>335790031
Yes. Some of them are pretty easy especially when you can Hi-Stance axe for hyperarmor.
>>335790016
>Kusarigama
Well shit if there'd ever be a dex weapon, it's probably that.
>>335790031
Yep, there's a chance they'll drop the equipment they're wearing, and they always drop an ochoko which you use to summon other players.
>>335789085
It has a skeletal framework heavily influenced by Demon's Souls, but in terms of the actual combat, while having a bunch of obvious influences (Onimusha, Way of the Samurai, Ninja Gaiden, Bushido Blade and a pinch of Souls/BB and Genji), it feels distinctly like its own animal. Stamina management is FAR more important than in Souls.
Souls fanboys are bitching and moaning because they went into it expecting to be able to play it like Souls/BB and promptly got their asses handed to them when it became apparent they'd have to actually learn a new system.
>>335790031
You get some of the equipment that the player was wearing, yes. Plus you get a summoning bowl.
>>335790209
>Learn a new system
No honestly you can play it the same way. You just have to play it in that same way much much better then you did in Souls games. From managing items to managing stamina its hard. Its not the optimal way but its viable as fuck.
>>335790151
Yeah, if I had to guess to fill those slots they'll also have a ninja stance weapon for ninjatos/kusarigamas/etc and dual wielding katanas because they just can't not have some form of dual wielding in there. I just really want more skills and weapon types since I love what's there already and how unique the different weapon types are.
>>335790408
I'd love to see a magic or spirit type weapon to compliment that style as well. I could see dual-wielding being rather skill heavy though.
>>335790316
That's actually one thing I really like about the game's combat system. In the beginning it's better to switch up your strategies to take advantage of their strengths but when you actually get good and understand how to fight, you're able to let your own style shine through if you want. To get the most out of it though you do have to think beyond just Souls.
>>335790016
>Skill Customization screen, you can set different moves for the inputs you have a skill for on each stance.
But they're all set to the ki thing, kick isn't even an option and I still get it.
>>335789714
Above.
Is this the next Git gud game?
>>335790156
>>335790209
Well shit I was wondering how they going to handle the summoning items being consumable
>>335790696
Not so much, it's just been a while and everyone's forgotten what a learning curve is like.
>>335790696
Honestly it isnt that hard
The only people that need to git gud are dark souls kiddos who keep complaining the game is unfair
>>335790763
how does that not sound exactly like 'the next git gud game'
>>335790593
Well anyone who picks up any game beyond fundamentals and tries to play it the same way off the bat is retarded. Its like playing another fighting game like Street Fighter to a tee you probably won't have as much success trying to downback and play at a slower more mind games pace if the game is faster and more about reactivity and pressure.
>>335790696
Nope. /v/ soulsdrones are already calling people praising it shills because they can't git gud.
>>335790597
Are you sure you're setting it to the stance you're using? L2 and R2 cycles between stances in the skill menu.
>>335790763
If Souls games are git gud then how isn't this? Or is git gud used to refer to games that normies struggle with that aren't really hard. Because this alpha is harder then any levels overall in the entire Souls series. And the bosses are pretty much harder too. Outside of maybe a few exceptions.
>>335790839
>>335790857
and thus the new git gud meme tries to establish itself as NO SERIOUSLY THIS IS THE GAME WHERE YOU -ACTUALLY- HAVE TO GIT GUD by shitting over the previous git gud meme
>Is this a git gud game
>No, you just need to git gud to win
>>335770265
hurts my head desu
>>335790850
Differences in definitions? Would you consider the onimusha series to be git gud games back when they were popular? That's kinda why I think it's not really such a thing.
>An alpha demo of a game is still better than a souls game
Holy shit.
>>335791023
Nioh seems to be more challenging for people than Souls has been and Souls is -the- git gud game.
>>335790943
Yes. The kick is low and mid stance only, but the Ki attack doesn't say it's stance specific.
>>335790991
Most people who gave Nioh a chance aren't necessarily even saying it's a whole lot harder than Souls, only it's funny how Souls fanboys are acting exactly like the people they made fun of for years.
>>335791117
Ki sword thing seems to be evident in mid and low. I actually kind of prefer it over the kick.
>can't use the whistle gesture to attract enemies
0/10
>>335791081
Souls is a meme series that's ridiculously slow paced. Something like Shinobi on PS2 is something that actually takes skill and improving over time, which is what NIoh is most similar to.
>>335790991
Its actually true this time though friend. Also i've never felt Souls games/BB overall were git gud games. Only a handful of bosses throughout that series felt that way and almost no levels felt hard just some you have to crawl through at a slower more patient pace.
In this game i feel like i need to be patient and have the guts to back in up. Where as in souls games its always just felt like patience. Friendly tip anyone who says git gud with a Souls games and isn't referring to
DaS1: Artorias , Manus , OnS
DaS2: Fume Knight/Ivory King
DaS3: Nameless King
BB: Ludwig/Orphan
Is a meme shitter because those are the only bosses that go beyond "Know a few simple tricks and play patient" to beat.
>>335791219
>Nioh is similar to Shinobi
Lol no. Nioh is much harder then Souls games if this Alpha is an representation of its overall difficulty. But Shinobi was fucking brutal. Id say Nioh feels more like a Ninja Gaiden game on the second hardest.
>>335791147
And in turn they've turned into the latest form of souls fanboys
Much like souls before them, this shitty fanbase is already turning into the thing they're mocking, and the game isn't even out yet
CASE IN POINT
>>335791224
NO NO NO I SWEAR IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE THIS TIME YOU REALLY HAVE TO GIT GUD
>>335791192
I would love to have it as an option over the kick but for whatever reason the kick isn't in the stance options for combos and it's all I get when I press triangle in a combo.
>>335790991
I literally said it isnt that hard
The people having trouble are those going in trying to dodge and abuse i frames like this is dark souls
It might trick you into thinking this is dark souls like and in a lot of ways it is but the combat is certainly not one of them. If you dont play this like it is dark souls it is merely a mildly hard game
Now fuck off
>>335791051
Please stop shitposting. I know you're just going to do the whole hurr soulsfag thing but really what's the point of being antagonistic when the games cater to different people.
>>335791376
Okay keep spewing false equivalences kiddo. Anyone who actually believed Souls games were notably hard is touched in the head.
>>335791117
I'm not sure what's going wrong then, maybe make sure you've actually learned it and swapped to the right stance in game or something, because it should be as simple as just going into the menu and changing it.
>>335791192
Sword Ki can be set to all stances but yeah it's pretty useful, way more than I thought when I first learned it. I like having access to the kick's speed though so I usually roll with Sword Ki in mid, kick in low and the spin slash on high.
>>335791376
I like both of them, I thinkit's a shame that obnoxious faggots feel the need to turn everything into a dickwaving contest.
>>335791392
Check the bottom of the window? I don't know what to tell you. You follow the combo tree down and it leads to a:
Triangle- X
Guard square - Y
Guard triangle - Z
Forward+X - W
>>335791601
>kick in low
God I wish spear's had an equivalent so I could replace Lubu stance's triangle finisher. Maybe just a light aoe leg sweep or something.
>>335791550
You're nothing more than neo-soulfags
You're pulling the same exact logical fallacies they did
You're shitting up /v/ in exactly the same way they did
the caustic shittery that infested souls has moved onto ni-oh
You're literally just repeating everything they did except replacing all instances of "dark souls" with "ni-oh" and trying to act as if you're somehow better than they are
>mfw nioh is going to save gaming
So who else manually draws and sheathes their sword every time? Yeah I knew everyone else did it too.
Game is fun but it sucks K-T isn't doing a PC port especially when they finally got good with Arslan. Oh well, I'll hope for it and maybe pick it up in a few months on bargain.
>>335791851
Don't forget to blame team ninja for trying to scold the mustard for making nude mods.
fire shuriken and Sloth spam is the best way to play
prove me wrong
>>335791930
Seriously? Where can I read that.
>>335791959
You forgot caltrops and windmilling.
>>335791978
https://www.vg247.com/2015/02/06/team-ninja-wont-make-any-more-pc-games-if-modders-are-naughty/
>>335791773
Low spear stance already has the spin kick though if I remember right, and besides it's standard triangle attacks are pretty good and quick aoe already. High stance gets a leg sweep though and it's really damn good cause it always floors dudes.
Games like Souls and Nioh make you realize just how dumbed down games have become.
>>335791851
>played the demo
>game is fun
>going to pick it up in a few months in the bargin bin
Am I wrong here to assume PC users are kind of cancerous people?
>bombs always go where you're aiming
suddenly they're a lot more useful than i thought
>>335791959
>no medusa bombs
>>335791812
>You're shitting up /v/ in exactly the same way they did
>1 nioh thread is equivalent to 17 dark souls threads and dark souls fags saying every game should be more like dark souls in every other thread
no
>>335792007
Spin kick just feels like the kick but with slightly better range. I prefer windmill in heavy and the sweep could fit the low style but vaulting over people is its own reward. Now if it was easier to dodge out of the spear twirl mid combo I'd be happy.
>>335791483
Mad soulmanlet detected.
>b-but I'm not
Fuck off nigger.
>>335792097
I want to wait and see if they actually change their minds and if not I'll pick it up on bargain so I can purchase DLC along with it. Sorry for being frugal I guess.
>>335772518
>Since weapons are meant to come and go, builds are basically nonexistent, so replayability will probably be low.
Thats like saying Diablo has no builds and low replayability. False.
>>335791841
I do
Why are the numbers on some equipment red and the abilities are grayed out when it has full durability?
>>335791812
>1 or 2 threads at a time is the same shit as 5-6 constants thread
Soulsfags are fucking cancer, but you are retarded.
>>335792318
Your stats are too low. Check the bottom of the window.
>first 50 minutes
>WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO I'M PRESSING BUTTONS
>2 hours in
>finally can into ninjutsu and magic
>wreck everything as long as I don't pull crowds
I seriously hope the full game is designed like the demo, as in they make pulling crowds completely avoidable, the game really does devolve into near unplayable territory if you're fighting 4 or more guys at once.
>>335792383
Spear
Mid-Stance
Small combos only while kiting
>>335792158
>It doesn't matter that we're spouting the same exact caustic shit they did!
>It doesn't matter that we're doing exactly what we're laughing at them ffor!
>There's more of them so we're better!
Of fucking course there's going to be more souls you retard, it's already had a full release on every major platform, whereas ni-shit is a ps4 exclusive demo
Just wait until actual release
Then there'll be a billion more worthless fucks who think that ni-oh is god's gift to gaming and you just need to GIT GUD FGT
>>335792293
Coulda just said you'll probably pick it up when it's cheaper.
>>335792293
You kinda made it sound like you were doing out of spite because it wasn't getting a PC port, the post just came off that way, my apologizes.
>>335792470
So where did the git gud touch you?
>>335792342
Soulsfags are cancer
But so are niohfags
>>335792318
Is like DaS. You can equip anything but if you dont have requirements you cant use them properly.
>>335790089
Probably a kappa in there ready to suck their souls out their assholes.
>>335792470
>Then there'll be a billion more worthless fucks who think that ni-oh is god's gift to gaming
Aside from the fact that is essentially is gods gift to gaming, no that won't happen. Look at how many years it took for Souls to reach the normie status of cool, 5 fucking games. 5 GAMES and it's still relatively niche for a AAA.
Sorry but this game won't catch on and it's better that way, I'll actually be able to participate and browse the game threads with my sanity in tact.
>>335792470
>doesn't say soulshit
>says ni-shit
assmad soulsfag confirmed
git gud
>>335792383
A lot of people outside of here have been bitching about the difficulty. It wouldn't surprise me if the final version is much easier and makes it more viable to survive against multiple enemies.
It's a shame, there seems to be very few games these days that reward paying attention to the environment and cautious play.
>>335792704
>I've never been on /v/ until last week!
Soulsfags were screaming GIT GUD since Dark Souls
The days of Demon's Souls were relatively nice, since all off five people then weren't incredibly vocal. But once dark souls released everything exploded and it was one of the reasons /vg/ was made to contain the constant influx of faggots thinking that they found THE BEST GAME EVER
How can I beat the boss? :(
>>335793070
Stop using emoticons, low stance or a few high stance hits, damas, your strongest weapons, and spirit water if you don't have a kekkai or two.
>>335793070
Watch my videos.
>thread starts out with people discussing different strategies, the mechanics and the boss fights.
>also some much welcome Japanese mythology along the way.
>last hundred posts turns into a Soulsfags vs Niohfags shitflinging contest
Goddamnit /v/, every fucking time.
>>335792005
>“We would like to ask PC users to play our game in good moral and manner. Otherwise, we won’t be able to release a title for PC again.”
What the fuck, Japan.
>>335792737
I wouldn't mind a tweak so fundoshi wearing bandits didn't have as much are as the guys in full samurai gear.
>>335793275It took 3 hours after release for the first nude mod to appear.
I liked it but after beating it yesterday, i'm finding myself not that interested in going back and playing it again. Do we know a price point yet? It feels like a $30 game from what i've played. It's got that indie quality to it. That's not a bad thing though.
>>335793342
All stores who've listed it for pre-order are charging full retail price.
>>335793267
Blame insecure Soulsfags who got buttmad on the demo and so they feel the need to share their "opinions" which in the end are just WOW SO UNFAIR THIS IS SHIT! Over and over.
>>335793342
Nope though I wouldn't be surprised if they said 60. Hopefully a 2nd demo comes out when it's closer to release and we see more expanded stuff with another level or two after Nue.
>>335793342
Indie? In what way? I played the Nioh demo at least 10 times as long as the super duper high budget crap called FF15 demo turd.
>>335793437
Come now stop it. Everyone knows they're aggravating and desiring attention but no need to give it to them
Where is the second Amrita Kodoma?
>>335792383
Crowds are always difficult but in time they get somewhat easier to deal with as you get used to the mechanics. It's pretty realistic how it deals with being outnumbered which I like. Each stance has a strategy but it's important to always keep in mind running like it's an old school samurai movie scene to spread them out and give you more moments to hit them.
High stance you play it carefully and cut them down as fast as possible one by one when they leave an opening, can be unforgiving but Ki Pulsing and running when needed make it work fine.
Mid stance's square attacks are usually more horizontal so you can hit a few at a time, and the parries can help a lot. If you're using a katana use the triangle parry instead of the square one, it's overall faster and the stab makes enemies fall to the ground slowly.
Low stance is pretty easy to understand how to use though, you just poke the hell out of them while dodging in and out with your superior mobility and Ki Pulses on dodge. This is probably the safest way to deal with crowds but you gotta watch you don't get surrounded or cornered.
Way more importantly though is to just avoid fighting crowds whenever possible, so use back attacks, stones, bombs, shurikens and bow headshots to thin out enemies wherever possible. Fight smarter, not harder and you'll win.
>>335793070
Kick the shit out off him
Use fire
Spam faster attacks for ez ki pulse to whittle down his yokai barrier
Iff he slams, slide behind him
If he swings, get the fuck out of dodge
The second phase is easier. Just dodge his stone tosses and sliide behind him from most of his attacks and you'll be fine
New thread
>>335793578
>>335793437
Don't look at me
I've been shitting on both fanbases since day one
>>335793510
Did you get the one past the three dwellers in the woods near the shortcut?
>>335793515
I fucking forgot Living Weapon god damn. The timer refills a little with each kill so while I haven't used it as much for this you could probably activate it and cut through a crowded area making it last the whole way. Your guardian spirit will make it vary though and remember that while you can't die, you're not invincible. Getting hit lowers the timer and if you use it badly it can get shut down instantly.
>>335793661
Yes, that's the first one as far as I know.
>>335793965
Then I'm not sure, I wanna say the burning village but I restarted the demo and I can't find it myself.
>>335793070
Hug his sides, attack constantly and learn to block those swings.
Also bring the spike floor traps because those are great for draining his stamina
>>335768786
How do you pronounce the game name? Nigh-o or neo?
>>335794154
nee-oh
>>335768994
my brother of african american descent
>>335794154
Latter
>>335794154
I assumed it was Knee-Oh (As in "o-ctopus").
Ok, not gonna read 500 replies to know if someone already said that but yesterday i didn't see it on any thread.
Found out something on my last play, obviously when you're guarding the ki regen is slower but if you switch between stances while guarding you'll receive "bursts" of ki regen, i don't really understand it since the amount was different every time, maybe it was even a bug, but it's really helpful.
>>335794194
>>335794224
>>335794249
I figured but i had to make sure so i dont sound like a dumbass to my friends.
>>335772510
It's just an easy game m8
>>335794287
Pretty sure that's normal and upgradeable
>>335794287
that's ki pulse. it also gets rid of the mist that some enemies leave behind, like the bigger yokai and bosses.
And the amount varies because it's a reward based on timing. You use it by pressing R1. If you press R1 plus a stance, you'll switch stance rapidly.
>>335794287
One of the things you can unlock gives you kill burst for stance dancing at certain times. Maybe guarding is one of the qualifiers.
>>335793490
the quality of it is more cared for, it feels as though a smaller team worked on it. It's more cohesive. Like I said, it's not a bad thing. But, at the same time, it still feels like it needs lots of work. I don't see myself ever paying 60 for it in any circumstance.
what is even the point of the first screen in skill customization, because i cant seem to select multiple finishers for different length combos
>>335794383
It's not ki pulse.
>>335794378
>>335794407
Is it? I don't remember reading about it on the skills, maybe i misunderstood it when i did, guess it's not something amazing then.
>>335794531
not to be confused with the move also called ki pulse. atleast that's what i remember of it. Either way it's activated by pressing R1 when the blue dots gather around your character, which happens after an attack.
>>335794531
Don't be too bumped out. I'm sure all the guard happy guys are interested.
>>335794609
I know about ki pulse, the thing i'm talking about is pure ki regen, no red/white bar, just low ki and stance switching while you have your guard up.
>>335779898
You gonna push lightning in this game too, Lucy?
>>335792348
>sell tons of stuff that's lower than my current equipment
>notice the red numbers
>2 level ups would have been enough to get the stats for the weapon
It would be cool if they'd add an 65/123 damage info number that shows that the weapons will deal more damage once you have the stats.
