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The Regulation version 1.06 will not require any downtime and will include the following changes:

• The range of the matching level of the Blade of the Darkmoon and the Blue Sentinels have been adjusted.
• The efficiency of the following categories has been adjusted: Short Sword, Twinsword and Magic.
• Other game balance improvement and bug fixes.

RIP in Piece DankSword ;_;
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>>335754504
but thats a longsword.

so is the raw ass
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>Short Sword

Literally what did they mean by this? Do they actually mean Straight Swords?
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this changelog is such a fucking joke, it's nearly impossible to know what's changed until nearly the next patch if so

would it really be this terrible to say X was toned down, Y was improved?
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>>335754504

What the hell are Short Swords?
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>>335754907
thats my guess.

translator prolly fucked up.
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>>335754504
are they buffing faith?? its garbage
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>>335754504
>The efficiency of the following categories has been adjusted: Short Sword, Twinsword and Magic.
>Magic

The fuck does that mean?
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Long Straight Swords will be slowed down to more the speed they were in DaS2 instead of the fast as shit spammy stuff they are now

Short straight swords will retain the current speed

Darksword will have it's base damage lowered

Gotthard twinswords L1 insta poke will now be slowed down to be more inline with other weapon poke attacks
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Is there a way to manually download these patches? I've looked around and found none.
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>Twin Sword

WHAT DID THYE DO TO MY BABBIES?
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>>335754984
Anything that isnt a Greatsword, Ultra Greatsword, or Katana, but is still a sword.
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>Dark Sword is being "fixed"

Shame. Looks like I wont have any more easy wins against people who thinks that sword is worth anything.
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>>335755320
turn steam offline or turn off automatic updates.

for console?,...unplug your internet.
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>>335755320
Buy the game you filthy pirate
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reminder that 40/40 quality build in das3 is retarded
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>The efficiency of the following categories has been adjusted: Short Sword, Twinsword and Magic.

Why have patch notes at all if you're just gonna say something as vague as this?

Shit, just cut out the middleman and have your patch notes be "We changed something."
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Why do people complain about Dark Sword when Estoc has the phantom range advantage and unparryable depending on the network connection?
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>>335755146
That means Sorceries, Miracles, and Pyromancies have all potentially been rebalanced.
Any spell qualifies as magic.
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>>335755662
rebalanced for the best hopefully. Sorcery is garbage right now.
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>>335755661
because people dont want their pokers or katanas nerfed but when another weapon gets to that degree you gotta make sure that they always triumph.
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>>335755558
Oh no, you found me out. Time to waste a shitload of money that would be better used buying food and paying rent.
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>>335754504

So these are "From" patch notes. Completely meaningless bullshit. You know maybe From actually thinks the lore of dark souls is completely coherent if they think this constitutes patch notes.

Adjustment of efficiency categories could mean literally anything.
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>>335755594
50/40 at SL 181

come at me bro
oh wait you can't
nobody levels that far
:-(
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>>335755146
They nerfed Magic Weapon.

Great Magic Weapon, Crystal Weapon, and all other sorceries remain unchanged.
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>>335754984
According to the Japanese text for the patch, it means Daggers and this is just poorly translated.
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>>335755767
Pyromancies are a tad weak compared to most things, but definitely not as bad as Sorceries, for sure.
Literal trash except for utility skills.
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>>335754984
daggers
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Ok but when are they turning poise back on?
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Has it fixed the sliding phantom bug?
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>>335755814
Oh shit, what are you doing.
Max Meta potential is 150, with a probable stop around 100-120.
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>>335754504
Patch notes:

-Something happened
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>>335755805
>he considers $60 "a shitload of money"

you have no business playing videogames poorfag.
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Did they ever fix the crashing from the lighting?
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>>335756073
yea dude they fixed that like 2 days after it came out, 1.03
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>>335756029
>he thinks 60 isn't a lot of money for somebody studying in a foreign country by himself.

Yeah, tell me how's living with your parents, richfag.
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>>335755960
had I only known
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>>335754504
>unironically using the term dank
>;_;

Fuck off back to twitch
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>>335756205
Now you know, try something else.
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>>335755960
>>335755814
Don't worry champ
i stopped at 149 you should worry
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>>335755805
>$60 dollars
>shitload of money
check out the underagefag here
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>>335755805
get a better job pleb
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>>335756197
It... it isnt a lot of money. what the fuck dude? Are you okay? Do you need help?
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>>335755814
What was DS2 PVP SL meta again? Weren't faggots pushing for as much as 200 because of Endurance being nerfed and MUH 100 AGILITY
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What's the best sword to use?
What's best kind of upgrade to do?
Raw?
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>People are STILL bitching about straight swords

Holy fucking shit, enough.

There is no stunlock, you can roll outside of their range after two strikes fucking GUARANTEED even with poise as fucked as it is and you're golden. If the enemy does the Stomp the only reason you'd get hit by it is if you tried to R1 mash like the fucking goober you are. Spears have range and shield safety for slightly less damage, greatswords have always been shit for PVP, and magic finally isn't OP as shit and people bitch about it.
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>>335756507
150 for hexfags IIRC
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What does it mean if your Blue Sentinels badge is blinking white?
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>>335755915
Git gud fgt
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DUID THEY NERF ME TWINSWORDS?

That was the most fun weapon in the game
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Why are they nerfing shit when there are literally invencible players running around online?
I had two encounters already with people who could run forever and wouldnt get damage from me or from enemies.

Also if you look at the ranking ingame, the first and second place are fucking hackers with 99 stats on everything!
How this shit goes over their radar like that?
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>>335755805
Seriously, nigger?

I mean, I'm a piratefag too not for DaS3 though. 60 bucks is literally one fucking day at a minimum wage job. Video games are not expensive.

>inb4 he got a liberal arts degree and has 15k in student loan debt
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>the patch notes are cryptic just like the game lore

VAAAATIIIIIIII
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>>335756534
p much this

I try to convince my friend that you can always jump out after 2 attacks but he fights to the end saying otherwise. R1 spammers only tilt me when I roll back into their spam, which I usually have complete control over whether or not I do (action queuing is completely fucking dumb and sometimes bones me, or I just make a mistake)
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>>335755805
>60 diddily dollars
>a shitload
Man, must be rough when your mom only gives you 5$ a week huh?
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>>335756573
It means your connection is up and you're all ready to never get summoned.
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>>335755320
Why the fuck would you want the patches if you dont play online?
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>>335756715
I wish my fucking student debt was only 15k
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>>335756507

Was 150 but you were retarded if you stayed at that level. Despite people reaching levels of 250+, fights were still varied and enjoyable. Not everyone was a havelyn crystal rapier jesterscimiflipper
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>People thinking they are going to do anything to long swords
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Hey maybe I'll finally be able to hit someone with black flame/combustion without having to clip through them. As it stands I think fist weapons have a longer range.
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>>335756884
They'll probably buff them and call it "balance" since it will ensure everyone is using a straight sword and therefore on even footing.
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>>335756691
i was using a trainer in offline mode, got banned. had to make a new account and use family mode to play.

heres the message i got.

they are doing something.
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>>335756808
Fuck, I waited around for like 3 hours and never got summoned as an Aldritch bitch. Shit sucks.
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What the fuck was the "dank sword" ? I'm perma offline so I don't pvp. This isn't chaos zweihander all over again is it?
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>>335754504
>and Magic
IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME
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>>335755287
None of this is happening.

"Short Swords" means daggers.

And you pulled this all out of your ass.

Even if I wish you were right on all counts.
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Can they fix the fucking netcode already. This t-pose shit needs to stop
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>>335757057

Dark Sword.

Like all straight swords, it has very little stamina consumption, deals a ton of damage, and effectively makes greatswords (and many other weapons) mediocre to shit because it has very little downsides.
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>>335757057
Dark Sword. As in like the dickwraith sword?
Very good weapon, great with refined gem, very easy to spam. Is it the best? No. Is it OP? Not really. Makes PvE a cakewalk if it's +10'd though.
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>>335756593
ebin
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>>335754504
>no rapier fix
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quick, what weapon do I switch to for my quality shitter needs
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>>335754984
Dagger in Japanese is literally the term 'short' and 'sword' put together. They didn't cover that in translator-kuns first year of Japanese
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Fuck this, I'm just gonna wait until all the changes are done before I put any serious time into this game.
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>Literally no fucking poise to speak of, you're guy will be blown away by the force of a butterfly's wings near him.
>Weapons will bounce off of thin air in an open field with nothing around
>Camera still shit
>Enemies still attack through walls

I mean I'm having fun and enjoying the game but a lot of this bullshit is getting old
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>>335757042
But there way more people doing it and not getting caught. This is a problem that they should had foreseen and solved in a couple days.
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>The range of the matching level of the Blade of the Darkmoon and the Blue Sentinels have been adjusted.

Just in time for me to grind out that Covenant.
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>>335756573
You're connected and in an area where you can be summoned. It shuts off once you get summoned or while you're in a boss arena, cleared or not.

>>335756858
I went to a shitty public school in a backwater, dirt-poor area and I had enough scholarship money to go through 4 years for free and live for months on afterwards.

They throw obscene amounts of money at you for even making an attempt in high school these days. Having a shitton of student loan debt is a result of being lazy or stupid.
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Love this game so fucking much
>Feel like some jolly co-op, go to summon
>suddenly invasion right before I click
>Oh shit -misclick, accidently summon purple-
>OH FUCK NO NO
>summon a goldbro
>see purp and red running at me
>suddenly a bluebro gets automatically summoned
>blue and gold tackling the mob and red guy
>purple attacking everyfuckingbody
>mfw
this shit gets fucking nuts
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>>335757459
>Waiting for more patches to play a single player game that has a multiplayer element

Pretty fucking dumb if have the game sitting in library
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>>335757459
Have fun playing single player.
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Wait what, are they nerfing Dark Sword?

Also torrent when
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>>335755414
Deservedly nerfed, the damage is disgusting.
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>>335757057
A new meme where people think the Darkwraith Sword is OP for both PVP and PVE.
Still I never lost to anyone using it.
Now the Estoc is actually a problem because its fast, has good range and literally uses no stamina.
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>>335755287
Please don't be true

I just invested a ton into my gotthard swords
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>>335756715
>60 bucks is literally one fucking day at a minimum wage job. Video games are not expensive.

You don't even see how privileged you are to live in a wealthy country, instead of a country where 60$ is 1/4th of monthly minimum wage.
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>>335757771
>uses literally no stamina
I made a character with Assassin starting class, starts with Estoc.

I can R1 7 times before even getting to Firelink.
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>>335757368
I don't know, a fun weapon?

>inb4 googled ds3 best weapon
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>>335757760
fuck off, shitter
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>Dark Sword nerfed

IT'S NOT FAIR, I SPENT MATERIALS ON THAT

RETURN THE SLAB
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>>335757617
I am both lazy and stupid but I'm also going to a private school that costs $30k a year so I can get a job making 3x that. So it's kind of a mixture of "expensive ass education" and "i usually just forget to try to get scholarships"
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>tfw still playing offline with launch version the way the game was intended to be played

feels good not being a casual
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>>335756534
The problem is there's no iframes at the tail end of your roll, and the R1 spam keeps moving the R1 spammer forward as the animation goes, therefore what happens is you get hit twice, then you roll and think you're fine, only for the 3rd spammed R1 to hit you at the tail end of your roll before your even out of the animation.

This can lead to me stunned again. It's also how the spin2win axe can stun you for something retarded like 6 hits in a row without being able to escape it.
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>>335757225
>Makes PvE a cakewalk if it's +10'd though.

Oh yeah, as if you could +10 it before you're already through 95% of the game because THERE ARE NO GOD DAMN FUCKING CHUNKS
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>>335757884
>caring about video games while living in a third world shithole

Kill yourself or immigrate and assimilate.
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>mfw I actually fucking parry an invader and kick his shit in with my big stupid machete
Its only happened once, but I don't think ive ever felt so goddamn satisfied in a game before
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>>335756534
phantom hitboxes are a thing, and so is roll distance being tied to weight. If your roll distance isn't very far (mine never is because lol why would I ever level vit?) you can sliced as you come out of your roll, depending on which way you roll and how far you rolled.
The requirements seem kind of rare but it happens way more often than you think. FROM should just tone the fucking hitboxes down and nerf dark sword damage a bit.
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>>335757991
Enjoy your obscene amount of bugs
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>>335757621
>get summoned into a fight club as a purple
>backstab host
>go to plunge attack host, he dodges, plunge attack one of the fighters instead
>2 reds, a purple and the host run after me
>purple looks like he's going for me, backstabs the host instead
>we've run far enough in that an Aldritch guy invades as well
>it's pretty much turned into a weird free for all where somehow the only phantoms defending the host are REDS
>goes on for 15 minutes as more Aldritch and reds and purples and sunbrks invade, host must have dry fingered
>get parried and killed by BKGA hornet ring, never get to see the end
Fun times
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>>335757908
>uses twinswords
>calls someone else a shitter
or the irony, I can't wait to parry your R1 flailing
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>>335755558
>buy ds3 instead of pirating for the "full experience"
>summons no-animation slide around and cheese boss without taking damage
>invaders no-animation slide around and backstabs
T...Thanks for the -$60 from
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>Go to use homeward bone from start menu
>Accidentally use Dried Finger instead because it's in there for some fucking reason
>Instant invasion
>The next fifteen minutes is a revolving door massacre of phantoms and invaders

Fun times.
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>>335758019
If you have enough chunks saved you could easily +8 it before dancer, which I did, and then proceeded to kill her first try

I actually felt really dirty when I did it, like I cheesed the game and that's the opposite of what I wanted
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>>335758020

>You should be a slave and have no hobbies just work if you are born in a shitty country

Cool
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>>335757887
Good thing sl7 pvp is super popular
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>>335756782
>>335756715
>>335756418
>>335756382
>>335756029

not even underage

only a fool loses an arm, for ass he can get for free

neo/v/ cucks everyone
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>>335757887
It's so lame watching speedruns of DS3. Gimping yourself if you don't pick Assassin for so many reasons but the Estoc is out of control. Just a resin on it and you're dishing out Raw GS numbers.
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>>335757925
You're a fag who doesn't deserve a slab if you refuse to use anything but the most powerful weapon
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>>335757925
>RETURN THE SLAB
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>>335758105
>using R1 with twinblades
It's all about spamming the art + L1
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>>335758171

The thing is THERE ARE NO CHUNKS

There literally are none before after you've gone through 90% of the game
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Why the fuck do the last 3 bosses of the game have "two fights in one"

And why the fuck do I have to fight the first boss every single time

I could stand it for nameless king but this is getting really old
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>>335757925
You get like 8 slab per NG, why are you even complaining
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>>335758194
>I-I'm not underage I swear!
Real convincing arguement anon. Isn't it past your bedtime?
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>>335754504
Until they fix poise I'm out. I have always built my characters around poise and don't have the patience to unfuck it this far into the game. Not being able to play a build their own descriptions say is viable is a horseload of fuck.
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>>335758271
I kind of really don't remember exactly how I did it but I promise it was +8 when I fought dancer, which, after looking at the wiki, I see that you're pretty much right that that kind of doesn't make sense
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>Tfw pirate master race
>Tfw can choose whether to patch or not

Get fucked buyshitters, enjoy your gimped nerf everything game and the oh so good animationless pvp
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>>335754984
A sword that is longer than a dagger but not longer than a longsword.
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>>335757925
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Will they ever fix the run + estus shit?
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>>335758019
You can get chunks before fighting Vordt.

>>335758190
What happens once you start pumping points into END though?
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>>335758032
The only times I managed to successfully parry someone were when I thought I was two handing my sword an wanted to do a weapon art but instead I had my shield

>tfw you parry Lorian accidentally
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>>335758301
Every boss fight in the game is more than one phase, except Ancient Dragon, which is just "get the fuck out" phase the whole time.

Those fights just have the phases split up by different HP bars.
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>>335758325

i was talking about you cucks. you guys have money, you just like throwing it away on stupid shit

i pirated it, and bought it. because I can do both.

eat shit and die.
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>>335758449
It's fucking stupid. More than half of the movesets in the game are usesless because you'll always be knocked out of your attack animation by a slight gust of wind. It's also turned PVP into a spam game where shitters just use quick dagger weapons in order to spam and win.
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>>335758175
I think he's saying that if a brand new video game costs you a quarter of your shitty income, you should consider leaving the country or turn to piracy. Or get a cheaper hobby.
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>>335758570
>R-Really I'm not!
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>two hand rapier
>spam R1
>win PvP

Gay as fuck.
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>implying sword, twinswords, or magic were the issue.

It's the fucking drang twinspears. If you get a lagging opponent that's using them, you're going to get spammed/stunlocked from a few inches beyond what was already a ridiculous amount of reach for a fast-attacking "twin" weapon set.
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>>335758619

Well I haven't bought a game in decades, I've always been pirating them, so I don't see why he had to get buttmad about it
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>>335758590

I've seen more hyper armor attacks in PVP.
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>The level range for summoning white phantoms is just a flat +-20.
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>>335758590
>tfw try the Greatsword
>2H R2 sends everything in 180° flying when fully charged
>has a shitload of hyper armor

This is my sword, it was made for me.
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>>335754504
>The efficiency of the [Twinswords] has been adjusted
Do we know if this is a buff or nerf?
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>>335758664

look guys i bought a childrens toy! aren't i an ad-ult now? go buy it with real MUNNY underage retards. Hmmph, showed them im superior adult
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>>335758772
>>335758713
I've avoided /v/ for the past few weeks while playing DS3, please explain Hyper Armor.
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>>335758842
It's whatever you don't want it to be.
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>>335758749
Would explain why I was getting instant coop summons for Vordt at 35.
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>>335758772
Join with me in Black Iron Brotherhood!
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>>335758043
You gave a reason why you WOULD level vit
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>>335758886
Poise that only triggers during attacks. Basically you just have to know how to time your attacks and bait people and you can tank through anything
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>>335758886
Temporary moments of infinite (or very high) poise.
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Great Hammer buffs when?
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>>335758886

Uninterruptable attacks
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>>335756534
>get hit by 2 strikes, health goes down to less than 1/3
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>>335758845
>Gives up on defending himself and just attacks the guy giving him shit
>Talks in all spoilers for no reason

I can smell your diapers, little one
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>>335758886
It's a fighting game term.

Basically means you can still take damage but unless you're hit by something really hard (about as hard as what you're trying to do) you won't get knocked out of your attack animation.

It's extremely satisfying having someone smack you with a tiny sword in the "opening" you give during a slow R2 and getting rewarded with a little damage on you then losing half their life bar and sailing off a fucking cliff.

>>335759040
A couple things can knock you out of it, usually boss attacks.
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>>335758845
i pirated it too and you're the biggest faggot i've ever seen.
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>>335758962
Considering it only goes up by 1 unit every level I still don't think it's worth investing.
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>have to validate my game file because shit isn't loading
>basically re download over half the game
>work on getting stupid dark world ending
>hard drive dies
>re download it again
Why the fuck should I even bother I already beat it once. Thanks From this never happened with Bloodborne
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>>335758570
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>>335758590
Combined with the fact that slower weapons barely do more damage in a single hit than the single-handed straight swords, eat a lot more stamina and swing three times as slowly. I went through mots of the game with a refined Claymore, finally tried out some upgraded straight swords and they just shit all over it. My +10 refined claymore does maybe ~60 more damage per swing than my +9 refined Darksword and the fucking basic short sword shits all over it too, it's retarded. If the heavy weapons had poise there'd be a point in using them, even in PVE I can't get more than maybe one swing off before being interrupted.
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How do I make a glsss canon mage?
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>>335759041
My buffed Lothric Knight Sword +10 never brings people below 66% after two hits, whereas if someone lands a great sword R1 on me they're guaranteed a second one and then I'm left with 25% of my health
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>>335759249
>not a Greatsword R2 followed by an R1
Literally unstoppable.
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>>335757127
its a nerf tho
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>>335759357
Is this going to be like the last patch, when /v/ told me greatswords were getting nerfed?
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>>335758157

I did that after Pontiff.

Killed about six-seven invaders before three came at once and they ganged me off a narrow path.

I earned my death.
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>>335759234
It really fuckin annoys me, it's such a huge oversight that it's almost incredible how they did that.
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>>335759357
And my dad works at Fromsoft
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>>335759236
Invest in nothing but INT, ATN, and some END. I don't know if faith scales with anything but miracles but I think it might for pyromancy so if you wanna do that stuff invest in that too
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>>335759236

Play Dark Souls 1
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watch magic get nerfed even more. less damage even with all the rings, headware, and weapons
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Why even use a weapon?
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Anyone else on PS4 experience lag?

Every time I enter any kind of enclosed space or fog gate, the game lags like shit for a bit. It only happened after this new update.
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>>335757554
they are getting caught they just havent reset the knights book.

if you look at the top players steam accounts most of them havent played in a few days, meaning they're prolly banned
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>>335759829
i had a skeleton, that thing cunked him hard
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>>335754504

>randomly fucking about last night near the Abyss Watchers battle
>get a Dark Sword drop when I didn't even know it was a drop but heard it was fucking great
>ahhhh yissssss
>pump muh titanite into it
>mon visage now

Wait, so is it getting nerfed or what? For fuck's sake I pumped quite a bit into this Claymore and it's less than impressive at this point.

Good for mobs but everything is getting quicker and I feel like I'm falling behind with this rock in my hand. I actually had just switched out for the Dank Hammers since they dish out so much more damage. I think I just suck at this game at this point. I now have like 3 different weapons and nothing dedicated.
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>>335759162
yes, blame From Software because your harddrive shit the bed. Get a grip you idiot.
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I wish they'd go back to DaS1's poise system. It added much more variety to playstyles. For instance, you could be a flippy rolling ninja who needed to dodge everything, or you could load up with heavy armor and tank through puny sword pokes while smashing people in the face with the demons great axe.

>b-but muh hollow waistcloth havel flippers!

There will always be optimal armor combinations. They just happened to be really ugly. That's not a fault of the poise system; just a fault of the options as far as armor.
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>>335754504
That's fine. I wanted to use the dark sword even if it's mediocre. Shame it's too OP at the moment.
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Is anyone else not using a shield because they got too used to dodging in bloodborne?
I've realized that rolling has saved my ass more time than blocking.
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>>335757925

the game throws so many slabs at you its ridiculous
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>>335754504
How did they change the dark sword?

because I just +8 this thing with a heavy gem and I blew a lot of effort getting all those shits together
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>>335757042
get cucked filthy cheatfag. Worse than pirates.
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>>335760095
Nothing wrong with switching frequently. I do the same thing when I'm needing the advantage of a different weapon.
>this claymore is nice but it's too slow
>this dagger is nice but it has a hard time following up on fleeing foes
>this spear is nice but lacks utility, diversity in its moveset
Albeit, it kinda sucks early on in DS3 because you get enough Titanite to upgrade like, one and a half weapons via progression.
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>>335757617
Art degree? Also you probably make sub 30k so no thanks
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>>335760197
ds1 poise was retarded, it was fine in ds2
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>>335757127
>being a magic shitter
I hope you guys keep getting nerfed
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when does the patch go live?
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>>335758919
pontiff is probably hard if you don't use op shit like straight swords, I had like 25/25 str/dex with refined broadsword and killed this boss really fast...

Honestly, I kind of regret using straight swords in my first playthrough.
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>>335759829
I kicked the mimic and it tried to flying kick me and landed on Diablo 2.
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>>335760197
Shut up faggot. Do you really think that baby shit is more important than difficulty?
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>black knight halberd not nerfed despite the op combo
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>>335760485
tomorrow
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>>335759236

What kind of mage?

>Sorceries only
Just invest in VIG, a bit of END, ATT and INT. Maybe a bit of STR/DEX, but not much. Just enough to meet base requirements for light weapons.

As for your setup, stack as much magic-boosting equipment as you can. Sage Ring + Young Dragoncrest Ring + Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring + Magic Clutch Ring is your goal for rings. Scholar's Candelstick boosts magic, so definitely consider snagging one and equipping it. It's kinda shitty as a weapon, so I recommend just keeping it offhand and then swapping out to it when using a staff. Speaking of staves, the Heretic Staff is your best earlygame catalyst. Court Sorcerer's Staff is the one you should get after that, as it has the best scaling of all staves. You might also want to consider using the Witchtree Branch because it has the same effect as the Sage's Ring. In fact, if you use the Witchtree Branch, you can probably just get rid of the Sage's Ring altogether and use something else. However, your damage output will be less than what you could deal if you used the Court Sorcerer's Staff.

>Pyromancies only

This one's easy. Just start as pyro, get your flame, then pump both INT and FAI. The point of diminishing returns for pyromancies is 40/40, so feel free to stop investing in them once you hit that point. Also, since you're investing in both INT and FAI, you can take advantage of the scaling from Chaos and Dark infusions. Consider infusing a light, easy-to-use weapon with either infusion.

>Miracles only

Don't.

Just don't.

It's not worth it. Like, at all. Lightning Spears work completely now and are no longer ranged spells. Their damage isn't even good until 60 FAI. Gnawing and Dohry's Gnawing are viable, but they're much too slow to cast. Divine Pillars of Light and Wrath of the Gods are actually damaging, but their FP cost is high and their cast times are slow as well. Either supplement miracles with something else or just ignore them altogether.
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So wait was was nerfed, straight swords or daggers?
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What's a good greatsword/ugs to use at 24 STR 15 DEX? Open to Great Hammers and Great Axes too.
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>>335760558
I really like how nerfing is all you know when it comes to design
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>fought a guy this morning
>he was naked and only had a pickaxe
>he just wait for me to attack him
>dont think at all at the time and attack him
>he tanks my greatsword running attack, hits my head with the pickaxe once
>half my HP away, even when I had protective rings
>I get stunned too so he attacks me a second time
>I'm fucking dead

I fucking hate these OP builds.
Also faggots now just use that Dragonslayer weapon and spam that strong attack where you get hit with a thunderbolt, or if you get near them you instantly die from the lightning attack.
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>>335760517
Bastard sword master race reporting in. Would have gone Zwei, but it seems like it was nerfed hardcore for this game compared to previous ones. Bastard remained high tier, but not OP. That being said, going Cane first time through BB was suffering.
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>>335760592

Oh, I forgot to mention ring setups for pyromancies/miracles:

>Pyromancies: Great Swamp Ring + Old Witch's Ring + Flame/Dark Clutch Ring + Sage's Ring

>Miracles: Morne's Ring + Ring of the Sun's Firstborne + Lightning Clutch Ring + Sage's Ring
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>>335758246

I suddenly want to make a mummy character named King Ramsies who goes around invading and dropping titanite slabs.
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nice from
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>>335759249
>get hit by a QUALITY straight sword with buff
>loss 800 hp in 2 swing
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>>335754504
But did they fix performance issues and crashes? That white screen crash still really bugs me
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>>335760707
>>335760707
>>335760707
>>335760707
please respond
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>roll herald
>wow, this game is tougher than the others
>eventually switch to claymore
>feels better but constantly feeling like i started on NG+ or something
>watching ENB's play through
>he's going around one and two shotting everything with the long sword
>crapping out more damage in 3 R1s than my claymore can with 2 R2s
>mfw watching my wife's bull playing with a raw ASS
>decide to invest in upgrading a dark sword
>happen upon this news
Fuck.
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>>335760304
You can literally only get 8 per NG.
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>>335760243

I've never played Bloodborne but I'm not using a shield because there are so many enemies that just move way too fucking fast and fluid.

I've seen Bloodborne footage though and it's obvious this game is based off of that engine.

Hell, I knew to abandon shields on ludex Gundyr. I stuck with them until everything was shitting all over me and my stamina is getting fucked up the ass.

The intermediate enemies just don't move like your standard Souls-series enemies. The mobs do. Anything higher and you're better off at a sub-30 weight and just dodging. The I-frames are fucking amazing after Dark Souls 2 and having to pump points just to not get shockwaved.
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>>335760435
Mechanical engineer, six figures starting. Stay jealous, poorfag.
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>>335761301
In a game where you don't upgrade armor anymore that's sounds like more than enough.
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Wait, 1.06? The hell? I'm still on 1.04, according to the title screen. Did they skip a regulation update for PC? Is my shit bugged out?
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>>335760197
Yeah, no DS1 poise very pretty shit game design. There's nothing skillful or difficult about poise.
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>>335761431
>He fell for the engineer meme
Haha enjoy your field being dead in 5 years idiot
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>>335760517
I don't know where the great machete would rank on a tiered list, but I had a much easier time using that on Pontiff with my strength char than I had fighting him with a sharp rapier on my dex one.
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I'm running a quality knight build but I'm stopping at 30/30 because I want 15 faith and 18 attunment for blessed weapon, med heal, and a third slot for a misc spell, like magic barrier, the status heal, or the tears of denial if I'm doing invasions.

What are some good quality based weapons? I already plan on using the sunlight straight sword for its built in buff, but I'd love to hear some other ideas.
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>>335760747
well maybe they shouldn't have made everything op to begin with
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>>335761485

Patch isn't out yet
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So if the dark sword is getting nerfed soon which other sword or great sword should I invest in?

I'm particular interested in greatswords
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Question : do you guys even use the sword arts in this game?

Most of the time i completely forget they're there. I check them out when I get a new weapon, but i never use them in combat. Honestly, if im not dodging, i either R1 spam or if I'm using my ultra greatsword, ill use a charged R2 occasionally
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>>335761485

Anyone who was penalized is stuck on 1.04
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>>335761696
I usually forget them, but if it's a hard boss I'll usually use every trick I have, including weapon arts.
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>>335761617

Red Hilted Halberd is awesome and has one of the most useful WAs in the game.
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>>335761696

The standard Longsword stance is pretty good if a standard enemy is turtling. The Katana art can be good if you disguise it with shielding first.
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>>335761696

parrying with the uchigatana is the most satisfying thing in the entire game
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>>335754942
This.
Might as well just say: We improved, balanced and fixed some stuff.
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>>335761281

You fell for the Claymore meme too it seems.

>finally find my baby
>pump my titanite and love into it
>enemies start becoming way faster
>I'm dicking around swinging this fucking titan while basic enemies are fucking dancing around me
>mfw Abyss Watchers

Had to drop it at that point. I'm sure it's viable to people who are decent at these games but it's nothing like Dark Souls 1 and I don't feel like fucking around and baiting bosses into 20 minute affairs where I get one hit at best per cycle of combos. I had to put the Claymore to rest.
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None of this shit matters

Did they fix the dancer/ sword master exploit?
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>>335761696
the katana parry/slash is great. In PvP its hilarious seeing people only expecting me to parry then I do the slash that fucks them up
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>>335761696
There are some really cool ones for certain broadswords and boss transfusion weapons and shit, but most of the best weapon arts seem to be for weapons I otherwise don't really like
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>>335758105
>summon red at pontiff
>open with a roll into poking range
>standing l1 into combo when he tries to parry
>chip him out with a compound bow
works 11/10 times, rolling attack is decent for trades with leo ring but too predictable, standing L1 is what you gotta really watch your ass for, the combo does 1000 damage easy
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>>335761696
I use the the twinblade one all the time. Really helps build up Bleed.
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>>335761537
I'm under contract, have benefits out the ass, and have easy as fuck hours so I can spend most of my day sleeping, shitposting, and playing vidya. I own every console and handheld (with the exception of a Vita because Jesus fuck it has a trash library) plus a PC that can max out pretty much any recent release that has better optimization than Arkham Knight.

My life is literally perfect.
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Guys, pretty sure Dorkmoon and invasion covenants use a stack instead of a queue.
For those who don't know, stacks are a last-in first-out system.
tl;dr when trying to farm the covenants, go to a bonfire every ~1-2mins and you're way way more likely to get it to trigger.
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>>335761696
I use them from time to time, but seeing how I can only use them about four times as someone with less than 10 attunement, and don't want to waste an item slot for mana, it just makes the arts feel even worse for how sparse they can actually be used.
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>>335761431
>mech engineer
>4 years
>6 figures starting

The extent to that these tweens go to lie is amazing. I'm impressed little man
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>>335761954
> invasion covenants
Shit, I meant area invasion covenants
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>>335755640
In the past, up until only in recent years, jap companies have pretty much just released games and forgot about them. Thats still what most of them do. The whole 'listening to feedback and tweaking their games' thing is still new to them. So obviously, patch notes are not something japs are good at yet.
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>>335761696
I use the Demon Fists as a secondary weapon and use it's art to spook people in PvP.
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>>335761909
>Couldn't beat abyss walkers with claymore

How? You hit once and they're staggered. I mean not defending that heavy weapons match up to straight swords for instance but you just play aggressive vs Abyss walkers and they can't really do shit.
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>>335761954
I wonder if Dried Fingers would remove the bonfire reset requirement thing then even though it's usually for being invaded?
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>>335760707
>>335760707
>>335760707
>>335760707
>>335760707
>>335760707
PLEASE RESPOND
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>>335756507
200 was the best meta becuase of the way defence worked, but you balance dipshits were so obssessed with muh build variety you couldnt understand that sl meta literally doesnt matter for build variety.

Get fucked you dumb shit
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>>335761696
Some weapons have great arts, like the greataxe. Shame most UGS have stomp which is horribad.
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>>335762174
Daggers, and it isn't exactly nerfed: it's unspecified. Most likely buffed because who the fuck uses daggers
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>>335761909
Claymore is shit anon.

Not even the R2 can salvage it in PVP
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>>335762197
GREAT AXE BEST WEAPON IN GAME

FITE ME IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE
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>>335761951
>bragging about owning every console
>bragging about owning a handheld

Why don't you say "when I grow up I want to be a mechanical engineer". Reach for the stars squirt
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>>335761301
>only
You don't upgrade armor anymore, 8 +10/+5 it's enough for you?
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What do the different gems do?

I have a heavy gem, I know that removes dex scaling and gives more scaling to strength

theres a sharp gem that seems to move some strength scale to dex scaling

then theres refined but that seems to increase scaling at the expense of decreased stability

is this correct?

Also what does scaling mean under a sword? is that how much stamina it uses relative to the rating?
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>>335762137
>>335761909
seriously git fucking good

first time I beat Abyss Watchers I was using the fucking Greatsword.
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>>335761696
I used the Sellsword Twinblades throughout the whole game, I got use out of the arts when I was packed into a tight space that would block my swings otherwise.
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>>335761696

Depends on the weapon.

The Maracas has an amazing one that really fucks shit up. Some have garbage ones though. Plus they use the blue bar and I don't invest into that I'm not about to waste Estus on the Blue Sippy-cup.

Cool concept but it's extremely dependent on the weapon. I've yet to meet one that I'd double down on it's use of the focus bar.
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>>335761909
R2 poke saved it for me (even if it only gets 1 hit in per opening in bosses or tough fights). I'm at Aldrich and still rocking out the Claymore. I recognize other weapons being better DPS, faster, etc but I'm not putting it down until it feels impossible to progress with.
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>>335762075
>he didn't fall for the STEM meme
Your loss, nerd.

>>335761696
The FP meter is really a pain in the ass for what could have been a great system.

That said, the Greatsword's spin attack never fails to catch backstab whores off guard. The thing as a whole just turns fuckers into meat.
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>>335762173
It might.
You don't actually have to go to a bonfire either, any zone that makes the covenant signs not light up will do the trick.
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>>335761909
>tfw beat Abyss Watchers with a fucking bastard sword
>have used it for the rest of the game

Yeah, it's an even more gimped claymore with less reach and damage. Just git gud and use weapons you like, anon.
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>>335761951
Omg you can run dark ark ham knight at max!! When I die I want to be reborn as you!
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>>335758214
what if I like how it looks you fucking idiot, I wish it were the worst on the whole game so I can use it in peace
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>>335761301
That's more than enough though.
I did Greatsword, dorksword, shield, dragonriderbow and pyrogloves. That still left 3 to use on whatever.
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>>335760484
>stop liking what I don't like
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>>335762340
Mein neiger I started using the Irithyll Twin Blades when I found them, but they felt extremely slow
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What's better for parrying, Buckler, Dagger, Monastery Scimitar, or Caestus?

I'm used to the Buckler's parry window but I dunno if I'm missing out.
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>>335762315
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Upgrades
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