Is there a moment in Dark Souls 3 that has topped this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8
Only thing that came close was Gwyn's theme playing during Soul of Cinder.
played and loved both. Truth is no, that OST, that phase 2
>>335747951
It's honestly going to be pretty hard to top. The phase transition was fantastic.
>>335747951
Pretty much every Lord of Cinder fight managed to equalise it. Soul of Cinder probably surpassing it.
>>335748249
This
That scene with phase 2 of Abyss Watchers was pretty cool.
>>335748381
This and Dancer were my favourite fights by far, god eater was pretty tight as well
>>335748381
>Watchers
>topping Ludwig
Are you serious? Ludwig changes his battle style completely.
>>335748249
>Gwyn's theme remix starts playing
>boss becomes parriable
Jesus, how long is that poor sob gonna have to suffer such humiliation?
>>335747951
Soul of Cinder.
There was no cutscene.
I then realized it didn't need one.
>>335748451
Only good Lord of Cinder fights were Abyss and Lothric
Nothing will ever top Ludwig phase 2, and anything that tries will be seen as a copycat
Not really. It had some neat moments but nowhere near as good as Ludwig.
Soul of Cinder fight. Him switching weapons and magics was cool as fuck.
I accidentally skipped it the first time I was fought the boss and since I had my old savefile from when I did clean up for the plat I killed him in my first try.
Haven't played DS3 yet OP, but im sure there is
Say what you want about 3 but it did a lot of amazing stuff with its bosses
>Abyss Watchers soul becoming one and restoring its ember
>Ocerios basically being reverse Ludwing and going completely mental once Ocelotte is presumably killed
>Lothric reviving Lorian and beginning the second phase
>Siegward arriving to keep his promise to Yhorm
>Nameless King claiming his wyverns soul
>Soul of Cinder becoming Gwyn
>>335748615I thought Yhorm was pretty great.Yes I know about Storm Ruler pls no bully.
>>335747951
The closest boss to a Bloodborne boss was the Consumed King. For those that don't own a PS4, it was a good taste of what Bloodborne was like.
>>335748513
Not Aldrich, good God. The only harmful thing he's got is that arrow rain, which is just annoying as hell.
Princes were great. Fighting the champ was fucking amazing. Pontiff is awesome. Watchers are pretty good too, and dancer's alright but not as good as juiced up Ornstein.
THE CHAMP doing MMA shit is literally the best moment of the souls series
>>335748713
Honestly one of my problems with 3 is the bosses overuse the "oh you thought you won well fuck you here's another lifebar" schtick.
>>335748713
>Abyss Watchers soul becoming one and restoring its ember
If only he had some HP/Poise, the fight would've been better, he died in like a few hits. Maybe it's because I went there after Cathedral.
I also missed Siegward's cutscene.
I liked the Lothric fight
>This spot marks our graves
>But you may rest here too, If you like...
>>335747951
You mean outrageous fanservice that came out of nowhere? When Siegmeyer's cousin came down the elevator.
>>335748905
I love the champ. Dying to him was a blast, every time he whipped out some new combo and tore me a new asshole I laughed my ass off.
Lorian and Lothric were better
>>335749123
>outrageous fanservice that came out of nowhere
That's like 75% of DS3
>>335748681So this is the power of thenogamesstations4 look at that resolution and >60 fps
>>335749549
never.
ever.
>>335749638silky smoothpuffy vulvas
>>335748249
>Only thing that came close was Gwyn's theme playing during Soul of Cinder.
Not even remotely close. If Gwyn didnt exist and the theme was SoC's alone then maybe it would have a chance.
By far my favourite fight in the souls series. I can't get the song out of my head.
>>335748576
Not to mention that the second phase is just Maria from Bloodborne.
>>335747951
Ludwig has to be the most overrated boss in Souls history. You faggots hype him up way too much.
It's really rare that the song of a boss COMPLETELY fits for the bossfight.
Like it was specifically made for his moveset and his attacks.
Every attack felt like it was a dance set to the music, and it fit so FUCKING well
>>335747951
Nah, no boss in DaS3 topped Papa G, Gehrman, Logarius, Ebrietas, Ludwig, Maria and Orphan for me personally.
All very diverse with unique and large movesets, tons of phases and actual cool characters/backstories beyond just a random creature you kill. Not to mention every single one of them had amazing music.
Only DaS3 bosses I really liked were THE CHAMP, Dragonslayer armour and Dancer.
>>335747951
yup the final bossfight
>that scenery
>that end of the world atmosphere
>that gwyn phase and music
perfect
>>335748948
I ran in with a +3 deep battle axe and the Watchers still died fairly quickly
>>335749837
Literally the only reason why it has that much of an impact is because it did exist as Gwyn's theme before, retard
>>335750417
Yeah Watchers had no health.
Ridiculously easy to backstab chain too.
>>335750470
>i like rehashes
>>335747951
Soul of Cinder gave me them feels senpaiÃlia
>>335750286
>Ebrietas
Shit fight desu, it's easy as fuck todos chain viscerals.
>>335750543
Nice argument, dicklips
Wait for the DLC. People comparing DaS3 base game to BB post patches/DLC are idiots.
Is there a fight in Dark Souls 3 harder than Defiled Amy?
>>335750707
The only thing unique about SoC is that he changes movesets early on, but 2 of those movesets are from enemies, 1 is from a boss and the curved sword moveset isnt really a threat because he whiffs alot.
>>335749837
>>335750543
>what is a leitmotif
god you're a dingus
>>335750792
Defile amy is a joke if you use simons bow on his face
>>335750835
Good argument, friend
>>335750734
Considering the dlc is going to be handled by the B/C-team I have doubts.
>>335751037
Thanks buddy, nice to know you agree that SoC was a terrible battle :^)
>>335751036
Simon's Bowblade was a mistake.
>>335751036
>tfw simons bowblade didnt exist back when i did defiled amy
At least repeating pistols were usable.
Soul of Cinder gave me chills but it still doesn't top Gehrman or Ludwig, in my opinion. Music pretty much makes the boss in any of the Soulsborne games.
Ocelotte
>>335751036
I'm still a touch butthurt that I got the plat before the dlc and saw they added a weapon that makes all of the chalice bullshit childs play.
>>335751285
Ludwig was better because it was the first time we had such a transition, mid fight cut-scene, music change, entire fight changes. SoC got a response from me out of nostaliga, not the same as the response that was me going holy shit what the fuck is this boss.
>Ludwig meme
Kill yourself kid
>>335750470
Gwyn was easy as shit in DS1, why would anyone feel nostalgic over that? Even if you fought him without cheesing parries most of his attacks missed you because of how the arena was set up.
>>335751036
He's still easy if you use anything else if you hang around his tail, it's just a battle of how long can you last without fucking up.
>>335750691
A fight's quality isn't determined by difficulty. There are plenty of easy fights in Souls games that are also excellent.
>>335751036
Any boss is a joke if you use bows. Any boss is a joke if you use magic. Any boss is a joke if you use shields. Etc.
>>335751108
Hes ok
>>335751334
That shit was like a Bloodborne reject that wasn't even good enough to get into chalice dungeons.
>>335748713
>Ocelotte is presumably killed
I keep seeing fucking retards like you thinking that ocelotte was actually invisible being held by ocerios during the fight
And i really honestly do not understand how stupid someone has to be to not realise Ocerios was already crazy and Ocelotte was already dead
Never known a group of people to completely miss the fucking point of something it actually pisses me off
>>335747951
>CRTL+F Nameless
>1 result
At least one anon knows Nameless King was the best fight in DS3 and tops Ludwig.
>>335747951
no, ludwig is the best boss fight of all time.
ds3 dlc might give him a run for his money, but its unlikely
>>335751334
Terrible boss.
MGS meme is the only good thing to come from him
>>335747951
orchestral music is so fucking bland. Every song is the same song
>>335752352
Literally noone whose actually played both Bloodborne and DS3 thinks DS3 has better bosses
Keep trying though faggot im sure the BB lets plays youve watched make your opinion just as valid as those who bothered to play the game
>>335752352
Nameless king was the worst boss in 3.
>>335752352
>telegraphed king
>best boss
>>335748780
I can respect that. Not for the difficulty or actual mechanics of the fight but rather that it closes out onion bro's storyline. Without onion bro its meh though storm ruler's weapon art is pretty cool
>kill Oceiros when playing through the game
>ez as fuck, pretty standard unimaginative moveset
>don't even think twice about it afterwards because it was so simple and generic
>come to /v/ and see people shitting themselves over how great a boss he was
What the fuck? Am I missing something, or is this some fucking Micolash tier meme where people try to claim a handful of dialogue made a shit boss good?
>>335752352
Nameles King really wasn't as good or better than Ludwig.
He was a really cool boss don't get me wrong, but he's not better than Ludwig.
>>335752579
i just finished ds3 and ive only ever watched bb videos and i know bb clearly has better bosses
ds3 has some really great bosses too though, and its dlc isnt out for many months
Rise, dear brother.
Can someone tell me what level is good to stop at for pvp/coop? 60?
>>335751036
>tfw whipping her in the face with the threaded cane until she fell over
Glorious....
>>335752352
>Nameless King of Camerafuckery
>good
l m a o
even his second phase was just another ornstein rehash.
>>335752779
FOR THAT IS OUR CURSE
>>335752710
Micolash's dialogue was about ingame deities though, it was relevant to the game.
>>335752779
A legitimately good boss. One of the few boss fights I found myself having fun in. Good concept, difficulty and ideas all around.
>>335749056
I really liked the mid-fight cutscene.
>Rise, if you would.
>...For that is our curse.
>>335752352
He was tough but not all that great.
DaS3 seems love bosses like Nameless and Pontiff who do these ridiculously long combos that last anywhere between 3 to 6 attacks which an optional immediate followup.
>mfw first fought him with a faith build with a lightning weapon
>mfw doing like 50 damage per hit
>>335752710
Micholash is the best worst boss in the series, Oceiros has a good opening cutscene and thats about it.
>>335749930
Holy shit what? You're retarded.
>>335752779
Twin Princes was sick as fuck.
Oceiros having a mental breakdown was pretty neat too, even though phase 2 is brainless and easy.
>>335752903
Good music, too.
>>335752779
>>335752884
>>335752903
>>335752921
Their theme really made that scene
>>335752896
>>335752996
I know, his dialogue was cool, but the actual fight was trash although not Deacons or Wolnir tier bad.
>>335752710
>the best bosses are only the ones that are hard
SO HARDCORE AMIRITE LE PRAISE LE SUN
Its because of reddit faggots like you we have 3 (THREE) rushes Dark souls games in the first place instead new shit like bloodborne
pontiff phase 2
>>335753017
You might be the retarded one if you can't see the overwhelming parallels that Abyss Watcher phase 2 and Maria have.
>>335753017
My bad, it tried to copy Maria but it ended up being worse.
>>335747951
This was great, but it would have been so much better if his second phase was actually more difficult than his first phase.
>>335753167
But Bloodborne had harder content than anything in DaS3, so way to contradict yourself my little memeing faggot.
>>335747951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weA-Gm1Ew9A
Between this, Abyss Watchers, Pontiff, Dancer, Nameless King and Souls of Cinder Dark Souls 3 has overall better boss fights than Bloodborne.
>>335750792
>not defiled descendant or defiled headless bloodletting beast
LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
people had to form 3 man squads to farm the fuckers for those sweet abyssal heavies
>>335750792
Defiled Amy wasn't too bad. Great Pthumerian Descendant is still the boss I've had the most difficulty with in the series. Fuck that guy.
>>335752789
Red soapstone summons after pontiff have gotten a lot more sparse after breaking 70. 60 should be good, loads of places to invade and you can coop for all the late bosses.
>>335752710Am I the only one that had trouble with Oceiros? Dude was the only boss I felt like I got lucky and won the DPS race with melee range lightning spears unlike the other bosses who I learned my openings and casted spells at the right time
>>335752779
Not the best fight but probably the best boss in the game overall(atmosphere, fight, music, etc...)
Does it matter when the rest of bloodborne is shit? It looks so easy.
20 insta-use spam heal items. Move around like a fucking ninja. Endless stamina. Ranged parries.
I guess they needed to make it easy to appeal to the console audience.
>>335753182
What parallels?
>>335753221
You're literally retarded, the fights are almost nothing alike besides they both swinging a weapon.
>>335753260
Didn't even bother me honestly, the transition, music and concept was so fucking perfect that I had a shit-eating grin on my face for the next 20 minutes.
>Dodging through moonlight crecent beams as the music swells
I swear they programmed him to do that. Either that or I just got lucky. I'll never forget this fight for that reason. Same thing for Maria, I'm sure for some reason they had her do that sick as fuck leaping burn slash to the music. The music makes those fights so much its not even funny.
>pontiff
>Dancer
>Princes
>Nameless king
>Gundyr
>Alritch
Soul of Cinder was easy as fuck, as was ornstein 2.0. The rest of the bosses aren't even worth mentioning.
Also, why was 80% of the music so forgettable in DAS3? I swear the only good themes are Pontiff, Dancer, Vordt and Gundyr.
Everything else is either a rehash or generic strings. Ludwig is easily From's best boss, and BB's bosses/musc are just more memorable than DaS3's.
>Ludwig
>Maria
>Orphan
>Gascoigne
>Ebriatas
>Gehrman
>Vicar Amelia
>One Reborn
>Micolash
>>335752710
My first thought was "this is sorta like Ludwig but way worse", I don't get it either
>>335753167
>>335753528
>Am I the only one that had trouble with Oceiros?
Did you miss Bloodborne? He was basically exactly like a boss in that game in terms of moveset, so I think most people who played BB found him pretty easy.
There hasn't really been a hyper aggressive thrashy boss like that in Souls before, at least to that degree.
>>335752789
It depends on where you wanna co-op.
>High Wall and Undead Settlement
1-20, base or +2 weapons
>Path of Sacrifices, Crucifixion Woods, Farron Keep, Cathedral of the Deep
20-30, +2 to +4 weapons
>Carthus Catacombs, Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, Irithyll Dungeon
30-40, +4 to +6 weapons
>Post-Sulyvahn Irithyll, Anor Londo
40-50, +4 to +6 weapons
>Dancer
1-60 (Some players fight her early.), base to +6 weapons
>Lothric Castle, Consumed King's Garden, Untended Graves
50-60, +6 to +8 weapons
>Great Archives
60-80, +6 to +10 weapons
>Kiln of the First Flame
70-80, +8 to +10 weapons
This is all coming from my experiences playing the game from its JP release. I usually get constant summons/invasions when I am in the listed level ranges in those particular areas. The only place I have never summoned for or invaded in is the Profaned Capital. I have on idea what the level range might be, but I'm guess it's maybe 40-60 because some people might go through the dungeon first and fight Yhorm before Aldrich, and then some vice versa.
>>335753547
>it looks so easy
Maybe you should play the fucking game you mongoloid.
>>335748713
>Ocerios basically being reverse Ludwing and going completely mental once Ocelotte is presumably killed
Ocerios was easy as fuck but he has to be one of my favorite bosses just because of how he goes nuts
>>335753556
Abyss leaves flaming trails after his wide swinging attacks and dashes, the same way Maria does.
>>335753590
>Vicar Amelia
>Micolash
>>335753547
We'll never go one BB related thread without this shit bait will we?
>>335753470
Try fighting him in a defiled chalice. If one of the chalices i make spawn him, I teleport out and delete it.
>>335753547
>you get bombarded with Estus Shards at the start
>Estus heals 2x more than Blood Vials
>you will literally never run out of Estus because you can just conveniently sit at a bonfire and get all of it back
>Embers give you +40% health permanently
>SHIELDS
I guess they needed to make it easy to appeal to the PC audience.
>>335753781
He said memorable, not good.
I'll never forget Micholash
Grant us eeyyyyeeess grant us eyyyyyyyyyyyyesssssssss.
>>335753547
>it LOOKS so easy
PC "master race" everyone, somehow knows the game despite not playing it
Never change /v/
>>335753781
Shit on Memeolash all you want, but Vicar was a great fight.
>>335753590
>leaving out the best theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s
>>335753771
Wow hold the phones, it's literally a copy paste. Doesn't make sense him using fire attacks at all being a Lord of Cinder and all.
>>335753547
>It looks so easy
>>335753959
I fucking love BB and think its the better overall game but the Lothric bros are legitimately top tier, gives Ludwig and OoK a run for their money.
>>335753771
When I fought Abyss Watchers I was so glad I played the Old Hunters DLC first.
I was so prepared for the second phase of Watchers because of Maria.
>>335753781
>Micolash was bad
>>335753828
>mfw abhorrent beast
>>335753928
>buying a 400 dollar Bloodborne machine
I'm sure it's a good game, just not that good.
>>335748905
>fighting champ
>phase 2 happens
>he immediately hits me in the air and roundhouse kicks me
i have never had a bigger grin while playing these games
>>335753575
They definitely did. Also in the Living Failures fight the music changes to match that crazy space/void meteor shower attack. That boss would have been forgettable if it wasn't for that attack and music.
>>335749123
>Ludwig possessing the HMS is fan service
I mean, I guess it is a little, in the way Patches is fan service. But it's more like a signature, like Hitchcock's silhouette.
Plus, it's all incredibly relevant to the lore.
>>335749397
>That's like 75% of DS3
>look at me, I get all of my opinions from /v/
>>335754185
>buying a $2000 4chan machine
>>335753858
>SHIELDS
At least souls games don't reward you for mashing R1 by healing you :^)
>>335749123
>You mean outrageous fanservice that came out of nowhere?
What is out of nowhere though?
I mean Ludwig's blade was so fucking famous that they made it standard use for Church Hunters.
Clearly the original sword was something ridiculously special.
>>335753689
I see good to know and yeah don't really have a ps4 so I missed the game. Some of the newly announced games seem pretty good so might pick up a 4.5
>>335754181
>those delayed offputting swings
Nothing in DaS3 fucked with my head like that shit.
>>335754397
Looks like someone didn't get the ring that heals you with successive attacks
>>335753781
>Vicar
>Micolash
>Bad
Vicar looks cool as fuck and her room/atmosphere are great. Micolash has creepy lines, great music, and a cool idea.
>>335754442I'm not trying to sell you on bloodborne or anything, but as a guy who fucking loves these games its easily the best thing they have ever made so do it son.For real though
>>335747951
Wait until the dlc
>>335754438
I enjoyed the Moonlight sword in bloodborne. It was more enjoyable because of the baller transformation and the fact it was not made from Seaths or Not-seaths soul.
>>335753858
Cool you didn't address 90% of my points though and brought up irrelevant shit.
>>335754193
>get the parry timing down for his horizontal sweep immediately
>phase 2, fight nr 4
>finally fuck it up
>it's apparently the setup for another sick ass combo
>stunlocks me to death
Can't even be mad, he's just too damn stylish.
>decide to show off during coop
>he always whiffs when I go for a parry because of vertical difference
>I end up eating the shoulder every time
motherfucker
>>335754442
Wait for 4.5, do not succumb to temptation.
Wait for a bunch of games to come out and pick up the 4.5.
Then enjoy Bloodborne, and realize it's fucking 10/10
Is bloodborne a souls game?
>>335753858
>20 blood vials from the start
>rally system
>visceral attacks heal
I like Bloodborne but the healing system is more lenient.
>>335754541
Honestly it seemed like it fit perfectly in Bloodborne.
The transformation and stuff of course, but from a lore standpoint it actually makes sense to have it in the game.
The moon plays a pretty big role.
>>335754629
This is the winning strategy desu
and then get a vita and kill ludwig while taking a shit desu
>>335754185
You do understand that the PS4 gets the same games as PC and xbone right?
I mean we do miss out on such great PC exclusives as "her story" and
I actually couldnt even find any others desu and i literally googled pc exclusives
>>335754541
Don't forget how goddamn SWEET its moveset was.
Can't believe how much they neutered it in DaSIII.
>>335754469
Why would I waste a slot on that when I can use any other rings that are way better?
>>335754451
The only thing that came close is Nameless King mix-ups, but Souls is so much slower than BB that you won't get caught in it unless you're mid-animation
I had to cheese beasts though, I ain't even ashamed. They're straight horseshit
>>335752921
I think the best part of Lorian's dialogue is his delivery of his first line.
Oh, dear.
He sounds so tired of it all. It's perfect.
>>335754769
Easily one of the biggest disappointments, the transformed blade in BB was perfection in every way. Amazing attack chain, powerful as shit L2 blasts, the double R2 waves. God I loved that weapon.
Maria is possibly my favourite fight in the series, I dunno why, I just love fights with bosses close to your size. Her moveset is huge, has 3 fucking phases, coolest boss room in the ENTIRE series hands down, is fast as fuck and can kill you in a heartbeat if you fuck up. Some of her combos are DMC tier crazy.
She's so god damn fun unless you're do nothing but parry the and visceral her the entire time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdt5XNvPkc
>>335752996
>Oceiros has a good opening cutscene and thats about it.
>That's about it
>Ignoring the baby and the transition from "sane" to beast".
Okay then
>>335754686
>20 Blood Vials from the start
You never automatically start out with 20 vials. You start with 0, and the early game of Bloodborne fucking punishes you if you're shit at it when you have ZERO healing items.
Anyway having more ways to heal isn't really more lenient, the rally system is to force you to be more aggressive because that's the playstyle of the game.
Visceral attacks reward you for getting a parry/doing enough damage to a certain area of a boss.
>>335754686
20 hp vials is alot, I admit. Most weapons get shit health back from Rally. Visceral attacks healing is a thing, but only if you put on the rune that gives HP on those or visceral fast enough when youre able to regain HP from rally.
>>335752464
What MGS meme? I know, Ocelot, but what exactly?
>>335754742
But why buy a PS4 when I can get better graphics and performance with my PC? Plus my PC can do other fancy shit PS4 won't. If all you do is play video games and don't have enough money, sure. A console is a wise decision. If you like to do productive shit with your computer and have money to spend, PS4 makes no sense.
>>335754904
>the transition from a sub-par Souls boss to a sub-par Bloodborne boss
Yeah nah.
>>335754903
shes good but would be GOAT if she had more poise, too easy to stunlock with any weapon.
>>335747951
no it was a cliche black and white choice that had no bearing on story or anything. I don't find it valuable or significant really. You lie to him or you tell him the truth that his hunters were bad eggs
>>335754915
It's literally just that their names are the same. Funny, right?
>>335754769
>>335754869
shit yeah muh niggas. the sword also generates sparkles and a small light radius too when transformed. it became my weaponfu right away
>>335754960
I honestly like to keep gaming and other computer shit separate. When I play on my PC I have the urge to alt-tab and look for whatever is happening in the game or whatever the fuck.
With my PS4 I can just go lay down on my bed and just focus on the game.
>>335754915
Someone shopped a baby with ocelot's face in his arms. It isn't funny.
>>335754904
Became too bloodborne for my taste in every way and not in the good way, he just flails without reason. If he was actually a good boss after that sure. But compared to Ludwig, his opposite he's a real poor showing.
>>335754960
Why would i waste over a grand a computer (on top of constant upgrades) unless it was a part of my every day life or my job
Fucking loser seriously
>>335754908
I wouldn't say it forces you, it's there as an option whether you want to risk it or not, this gives the combat a little more depth rather that OH SHIT I JUST TOOK DAMAGE TIME TO BACK OFF AND SIPPY.
>>335754908
>You never automatically start out with 20 vials. You start with 0, and the early game of Bloodborne fucking punishes you if you're shit at it when you have ZERO healing items.
Enemies shit out blood vials, they're really easy to get. I never had to farm them once.
Not to mention the healing animation is lightning fast.
>Visceral attacks reward you for getting a parry
And parries are piss easy and low risk/high reward because of the range.
>>335754960
>>335755131
You notice this with PC cucks they dont aftually play videogames
They play for a couple minutes hurry to 4chan to talk shit then go back and play another 5 minutes as all they care about is what there internet friends are saying
When bloodborne launched we didnt get many threads for a day or so
Because you know, we actually spent time playing the fucking game
>>335755281
The only enemies that "shitout" blood vials are those ogres in Yharnam at the start.
>>335755238
>little more depth
All it encourages is spamming R1 as fast as you can.
I really feel like Champion Gundyr really matches it.
>Oh a rehashed boss, how boring OH SHIT WHAT
It really feels like fighting against a bastard that's so much fucking better than you in every way, a down and dirty fight with no real tricks and gimmicks, just raw combat.
Soul of Cinder was probably my favorite moment. Even if you don't agree, you have to at least say the fight was better than Old King Allant, Gwyn and Aldia.
>final boss is a representation of the player
>uses a bonfire's coiled sword as a weapon
>can use his sword as a bonfire and revive himself
>can switch between strength/magic/faith/pyro builds at will
>that realization when its Gwyn's soul possessing the boss, symbolising that the player has the Dark Soul
Also the lead up to the Lothric fight had some serious Demon's Souls feeling, a lot of early-level Boletaria essence in there that was pretty tasty.
>>335755281
>Not to mention the healing animation is lightning fast.
So's the sippy animation in DaS3, you can also move during it like in BB, and the bosses and enemies aren't as fast as in BB so it's basically impossible to be punished for it.
It's also broken in PVP considering it's so fast you can't even backstab punish it. At least in BB you could parry heals.
>>335755510
Fun fact I did more R1 spamming in DaS3 than I ever did in Bloodborne.
Because weapons in Bloodborne actually had depth and transform attacks did BIG DICK DAMAGE
>>335747951
Fighting the Champ.
It's like he was laughing internally on how you thought everything was going to be the same fighting he's tutorial version.
>>335755510
>All it encourages is spamming R1 as fast as you can.
See >>335754908
>Most weapons get shit health back from Rally.
>talks to you peacefully after the fight despite him being fully conscious and not mad during his phase 2
at that point he's not even trying to eat you, why is he still fighting you?
>Retards REALLY pushing the US VS THEM BBvDAS3 bullshit
>People ACTUALLY gobbling it up
>>335755141
Yeah, I liked Oceiros but purely for his appearance and lines. All I could think of while fighting him was that it was literally a lesser ludwig and it really took me out of it, same with abyss watchers and maria. I felt nothing in the 2nd phase except "oh, they rehashed this. i can beat this."
>>335755574
Old King sure but not False King Allant.
>>335755526
He's one of the best in the game
Lothric bros
The Champ
SoC
Pontiff
Dragonslayer armor
Those were the bosses I actually enjoyed in DS3, the games difficulty curve is really terrible and waits too long to kick in and when it does the game is about over. Rest of the bosses are more gimmick fights than actual challenging fights.
I pray for DLC that elevates the game.
>>335755526
>dat shoulder barge
I never didnt get fucked by that
>>335755526
>Champion Gundyr really matches it.
>first try lvl 60.
he's not even close to ludwig
>>335755721
T H I S
>>335755692
because you're trying to fucking kill him
>>335748451
come on nigga, step up your game
>>335747951
nope
>>335754960
Every game should be on PC. Consoles shouldn't a thing.
But consoles are a thing and PS4 has amazing games. So you could whine about it all you want but unless a PS4 emulator comes out soon, you're not going to play the consoles exclusives. So get a PS4.
>>335755510
>All it encourages is spamming R1 as fast as you can.
It encourages a choice, more choice than you have in DaS and that alone makes it deeper.
Do I go for some regain and risk taking more damage, or do I back off and pop a Blood Vial.
This has factually more depth to taking damage in DaS3 and having no other choice but to back off and Estus.
Also different weapons in BB have different rally potentional, and different forms of the weapon too. Hunter's Axe gets tons of rally since it's slower, Cane gets very little, however you can transform the Cane into whip form and get a shit ton of rally if there's a crowd of enemies, as it'll connect with several at the same time being a large whip.
It offers more depth and choice to taking damage in combat and that's a fact you can't deny.
>>335755726
>Oceiros gets stuck at the edges fairly often.
Why do people like this fight again? The uneven ground causes him to miss plenty of attacks on top of that.
Why are BBfags so fucking insecure
We fucking get it, your precious exclusive is good.
>>335755164
I think the neat thing about PC is that if you wanted to, you could put together a $400 build with a 750ti (actually maybe even a better card depending on sales) and then simply upgrade it later down the line. A 750ti matches the PS4 in many games like Witcher 3.
However, nonetheless I fully respect anyone's decision to go with a PS4 over a PC, and I humbly wish you an enjoyable gaming experience. Xbone is complete underpowered trash though, just look at Quantum Break, runs at 720p and looks awful.
>>335748576
Stop being a fucking fanboy
Watcher getting back up and powering himself up with the ashes of his fallen comrades as cool as fuck and surprised a good deal of people no doubt
Might not as been as impactful as Ludwig but it was just as memorable
>>335754318
made me kek
>>335755460
Bullshit, the Huntsmen and werewolves drop them, so does that axe guy.
>>335748381
>somehow manage to get the 2nd phase cutscene to start during when the song picks up
And I've been summoned before for that fight and the cutscene didn't link up with that part so don't pull none of them shenanigans on me.
>>335755816
i would've put down my weapon if he gave me that option.
>>335755914
>1st phase Watchers dies in a sneeze
You'd be an idiot to not expect more out of the fight.
>>335750123
>Your face when you realise that his starting sword slashes are exactly like a conductor waving his baton to the orchestra
He's literally Ludwig
>>335748905
This. I died 6 times, but those 6 times were one of the best. I was mentally begging him not to go crazy on me. Shoulder tackles, roundhouse kicks, the fuck.
If he went into phase 2 and dropped his halberd to fist fight you, he would have been the best Souls Boss I've ever played against. No question.
>>335755882
New game isn't as good as older games in series is a meme as old as fucking time
>>335755574
I still prefer False King. Soul of Cinder suffered from having pretty much 0 build up and just coming out of the blue.
His moveset was great though, very diverse.
>>335755602
Should've tried R1 spam in BB, it's very efficient.
>>335755853
I'll buy when it's worth it. Also, the reason why all games are not on PC is because publishers like money. PS4 in the end is just a locked in, proprietary PC after all.
>>335755526
THE CHAMP is the best boss in the game by far, only boss to reach BB DLC levels of hype.
>>335756087
Not as effective as using every single moveset for a tricked weapon.
More damage.
>>335755914
Lol
>>335748381
I thought the first phase was way more exciting than the second.
As someone who has a fetish for enemies fighting each other once I noticed that start happening I was losing my shit. And then the second phase is literally just Maria. Still cool though.
>>335756048
I know some sort of Gwyn rehash was coming, after all they rehashed all the lord souls in DS2 and they were doing it to some degree in DS3.
Hi I'm a PCuck and have only played the DaS series.
Nothing will top BB, it was the best thing to come out of the games. Cohesive lore, satisfying ending, awesome bosses, everything meshes so well. The weapons, NPCs, item descriptions, everything.
The scope of the DaS games feels so limited in comparison to the singular Bloodborne.
Only things that come close in the Souls games are Solaire's questline, Gwyndolin, Artorias & Sif, and Yoel/Yuria.
I feel like Irithyll of the Boreal Valley has real potential, I hope it gets expanded upon in the DLC. The Siegward/Yhorm thing was ruined by the Stormruler.
>>335752352
CHAMP > Nameless
Easily.
Champ only needs 2 hit combos to show you that you are fucked.
>>335747951
Of course not, anyone who says otherwise must actually be autistic or hates BB for reasons unrelated to the game itself, such as it being a PS4 exclusive.or didn't play it but that goes without saying
I think the most hilarious people are those who think the Abyss Watchers compare in any way shape or form.
>Ludwig
>Challenging first part, he's VERY aggressive and hits like a truck
>half health
>cutscene
>ohshit
>"My guiding Moonlight..."
>MAJOR LEAGUE GREATSWORD OH FUCK
>start the 2nd phase
>he's slower, all pf his attacks area easier to dodge
>he dies like a complete bitch
It was such a goddamn let down, OP.
>>335756231
Yeah I never liked Gwyn, so SoC's big 'moment' didn't do shit for me.
Maybe if DaS1 was your first Souls game that shit might have made an impact, but for most of us he was just an average boss fight.
>>335747951
Fighting Sif after doing the DLC is still the greatest scene in all the souls games.
>>335755860
You always have the choice to do more damage in DaS, you're not forced to stop and heal. How is that factually more depth?
>>335755638
I don't see your point, it still encourages it.
>>335756251
While the champ is a fun fight he is pretty easy. I thought I cheated myself out of a fight because I summoned my friend the first time I fought him so I went back there today on my strength faith build and a +7 lightning dragon slayer axe and just murdered the fuck out of him.
Was vanilla BB even good
every BB thread I come across to is always about the dlc and how good maria and ludwig is.
>>335756454
You have literally 0 incentive to ever continue after taking an almost killing blow in DaS, unless you're out of Estus. You're always going to back off and heal to be safe, because there's no alternative to getting that health back.
>>335753547
BB doesn't have bonfires to fill up your estus every couple meters. You have to go through an entire area with 20 vials.
>>335756130
More damage doesn't mean more damage per second.
Ludwig is the last boss I'd cite in any Souls title as anything special.
>>335756595
Yeah, its pretty good. Its biggest flaws were length and lack of weapons. DLC fixed both of those so thats why people talk about it.
>>335754020
the moveset is almost identical too, familia
maybe it's because you're a pccuck and never played bloodborne, so of course you don't recognize the similarities
I really liked Aldrich, Champ, Nameless King and Soul of Cinder.
>>335756595
Vanilla BB is great, the DLC is just better, but the OG is still fantastic.
Some weak bosses like Witches, Rom and One Reborn, but most are diverse and good. Also the level design and world design is only matched by DaS1.
>>335756595
Vanilla has it's moments. The hunter fights are what stand out to me the most.
>>335756637
Wow you have never played Bloodborne.
Bosses melt 3x faster with trick attacks instead of spamming R1.
>>335756362
>start the 2nd phase
>he's slower, all pf his attacks area easier to dodge
>made DSP quit
he always died in the 2nd phase
>>335756652
He's all flair. Cool lore, cool sword, decent first form, but he becomes hilariously easy in the second. Sucks.
>>335756547
>I don't see your point
That is because you are an idiot. It doesnt encourage it if you know you will never gain back the same amount of HP you lost within 5 seconds after taking a major hit.
>>335756734
I was really upset Aldrich didn't a cut scene or a lot of lore even though he has his own fucking convent.
>>335755576
The animation is faster in BB. Some enemies are considerably fast, and you're slower than in BB.
>It's also broken in PVP considering it's so fast you can't even backstab punish it.
What are Lloyd's. You can also always run to them and get a couple free attacks.
>>335756789
Not to mention L1's and L2's and fuckhuge hyperarmour on them.
>>335755526
>Oh a rehashed boss, how boring OH SHIT WHAT
My fucking exact reaction.
All I could think was "STOP PLEASE STOP, YO WAS THAT A SHOULDER CHARGE AND A DONKEY KICK".
>>335749638gonna give you up
>>335756795
How? You beat him with the more tired circle strafe strategy.
>>335756795
Did DSP do the chalice dungeons?
>>335756595
Not really.
>>335756908
Ludwig is a daunting enemy lad, shit's scary.
So, Seath, True Ornstein and Serpents will be DLC bosses?
>>335757054
I just want the fucking deep dlc
>>335756723
>the moveset is almost identical too, familia
It's not, you're retarded.
>maybe it's because you're a pccuck and never played bloodborne, so of course you don't recognize the similarities
Nice post. I actually really like BB but I'm not a blind fanboy.
>>335756997
Sure, but that's most of what he's got going for him. Orphan was way more memorable because he was flying around kicking my dick off while screaming in raging sadness over his dead mom. His music starts off really sad and KICKS THE FUCK IN.
>>335757054
serpents
velka
flame god flann
gwynevereoscar
>>335753458
Man... such shit taste. This is actually hard for me to take in. It's hard to accept there is one person out there with these opinions.
Damn, I think I need to take a break from here today.
>>335756789
Yeah sure, just deflect any criticism with 'you never played it', that sure showed me.
Ludwig was a great fucking fight. Even his weapon type and elemental weaknesses change during the phase shift. Saw and fire on the first, reflecting his beastly nature and bolt after he became Ludwig, the Holy Blade.
10/10
>>335756583
Artorias was hard as shit when I first fought him, but he reminded me too much of Penetrator from DeS, even saying that, Arty's whole theme and get-up was excellent.
>>335757148
>Gywnvere
>Her ex husband she cucked for the consumed king
For what purpse? Flann has nothing in Das 3
am I the only one who hears this song when fighting these fat fucks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbBvKaM6sk
>>335757147
What's going for Ludwig is the incredibly syncs in music and his move set.
Every single fucking attack feels like it's in sync with the music and in general the flow of his animation is beyond incredible.
>>335757054
THE DEEP
H
E
D
E
E
P
>When the orchestra kicks in hard in Ludwig's second phase
>>335757054
Wait what, am I missing something? Didn't CU kill Seath in DaS?
>>335757147
OoK's theme is absolutely perfect in every possible way. Hauntingly sad to begin and then menacing as all fuck when you realize its no longer toying with you, it plans to kill you.
>>335757258
If we are going to go by that setting the fucking dancer. Holy shit once she picks up her second sword it's such a flow with the music it's like shes dancing
>>335757184
If you played it you would know without a doubt that trick attacks are the highest and most efficient damage you can do you fucking idiot.
You aren't supporting any of your claims and all I can go off is that you clearly haven't played it and have no clue what you're on about.
>>335757106
Pretty much everyone here agreed Abyss Watchers is a copy of maria, give it up nigga
>>335756854
>The animation is faster in BB
And so are the enemies and bosses.
>Some enemies are considerably fast, and you're slower than in BB
All the enemies in DaS3 are telegraphed as fuck, and you can still roll the same speed as you could in BB. Not to mention rolling takes literally no stamina like in BB now.
>What are Lloyd's
Shit. Like 2 meter distance, hilariously telegraphed throw animation and travel time that you can slow to the side from, and you could sippy 3 times in a row before one of those shitters came near you. Loyd's are useless unless used against someone mentally retarded. I take it you also find it hard dodging firebombs with those slug reactions?
>You can also always run to them and get a couple free attacks.
With a straight sword or katana sprint-poke sure, good luck punishing with anything bigger the animation so retardedly fast.
>>335757258
I just felt really disappointed by his second phase for all of what you said. incredible build up and music, only to turn into a humanoid knight enemy whose only unique-ish attacks are the easiest to dodge. Style over substance.
>>335757183
You sure convinced me with those hot arguments, fagtron. Please do enlighten me with you objectively superior tastes.
>>335753547
It's OK to be gay.
>>335757339
I agree with you completely mate, dancer felt like a fluid as fuck fight and I loved it.
I just have fonder memories of Ludwig and the first time killing him and my erection.
P H E W
>>335757323
The power of rehash and jews brought him back for the sequels.
>>335756107
True and there's also many proprietary things in PC that shouldn't be but you're forced to get them. Of course, some of those things are free but the people don't have much of a choice.
Steam's consumer rights are shit as well. But many are going to get Steam because it's so convenient even if they don't like the EULA.
>>335755526
This is like watching one of those boss videos where they never do the move that kills you so it doesn't help. You guys go on and on about this nigga when all he did was rehash tutorial boss moves and then die like a bitch. Got him first try, and then came here to find everyone talking about him. I feel like I got fucking robbed.
>>335756362
Yeah, he's easier in 2nd half by a mile. You can evade 90% of his shit by rolling into him even
>>335757323
it was an illusion
>>335757328
Apparently when he screams to call down the lightning bolt to Kos' corpse it sounds like MOOOOTHEEERRRR. Fucking love that boss.
>>335757568
>Illuison
>Drops the lord soul
No
>>335757323
He became a spider, so who knows what else he'll do next.
>>335757642
>Get the soul of Ornstien in DS1
>Was an illusionI'm fucking with you, that guys an idiot
>>335757717
literally anyone posting in this thread right now could be seath in disguise
>>335757717
So did Patches.
FROM?????
>>335747951
lady maria had my favorite song so far. i got her to start her third phase, when she floats into the air and explodes, right as the song hit the crescendo
>Bloodboners STILL defending Micolash because of le maymay dialogue
Please stop
>>335757853
>DS3 doesnt even have any notable dialogue
pls
>>335757365
>And so are the enemies and bosses.
Depends on the enemies and bosses.
>All the enemies in DaS3 are telegraphed as fuck
Nice generalization.
>and you can still roll the same speed as you could in BB
No you can't, BB's dashes are faster and have more i-frames.
>Shit. Like 2 meter distance, hilariously telegraphed throw animation and travel time that you can slow to the side from, and you could sippy 3 times in a row before one of those shitters came near you. Loyd's are useless unless used against someone mentally retarded. I take it you also find it hard dodging firebombs with those slug reactions?
So you don't actually know when to use them?
You're supposed to predict when they're going to heal and throw them when they are on a recovery animation.
Lorian and Lothric are actually an important part of the lore and not just a guy that's barely mentioned in the vanilla game. "Rise if you would... for that is our curse" > "My guiding memelight"
>>335757584
Listening to this again and it's kind of hard to even make out what it's screaming, but you can hear some human ass sounding sobs at the end of his screams. Like, hysterical ones. neat.
>>335757843
Yeah it's a great song. Honestly, only song that really stuck to me.
>>335757807
That's fucking stupid. Seath is a fictional character.
>>335757914
>DaS3 brought up out of nowhere
>>335757351
Literally only 2 or 3 retards are saying that. They're more similar to Artorias if anything.
>>335757965
or is he?
>>335757914
Says you. I love it when clueless posters ask how the elevator in Undead Settlement works only to get bombarded with Siegward quotes.
>>335757965
>Seath is a fictional character.
Thats the illusion
This is one of the more calm shitposting threads.
Usually it's filled with NEVER EVER memes.
Proud of all of you
>>335757914
Oh dear, another dogged memer
>>335757717
>Seath became a spider
What? Freja isn't Seath. Are you talking about something else?
>>335757346
I don't see you backing up your claims either. Claiming R1 spam isn't effective is being delusional at best.
>>335758097
NEREVARINE
>>335757965
illusion ahead
>>335747951
Champ.
No talk, no nothing.
Just him fucking you up.
>>335758159
>Drops: Soul of the Duke's Dear Freja, Old Paledrake Soul (NG+)
Then why does it drop the soul??????
>>335758187
Do you want me to fucking boot up Bloodborne right now and do a Ludwig run and compare damage?
Because I fucking won't, I'm not that invested in this argument.
>BB
>Enemy combos usually aren't more than 2-3 hits, if you fuck up and get hit you can still roll out
>DS3
>Enemy combos are like 18 hits long and if you get caught once you're fucked
Only thing i don't like about DS3 so far, so many enemies are full of bullshit combos
>>335757965
Sure Seath i believe you.
>>335758293
Something something Creation of Seath something something giving parts of his soul
>>335758293
the spider swallowed the soul
he found it
>>335756595
Better than any other vanilla Souls game. The DLC was equally superior compared to any other Souls DLC, which usually have some of the highpoints of their respective games, so it's only natural you hear so much about it
>tfw actually listening to Orphan's song
This second phase music is fucking incredible.
I couldn't hear SHIT over his screams
>>335758187
11:25 PM EST, American kiddies are asleep, college kiddies are studying
Why does everyone talk about Champion Gundyr using fist moves?
He never did that in my playthrough when I went to the Untended Graves.
Me and Sword Master just beat him in. He never even attacked me.
>>335758387
>Pontiff Knights
STOP
SPINNING
AAAAHHHHH
>>335757951
BB's soundtrack is a lot better when you listen to it outside the game. I didn't think anything stuck out to me, either, but then Cleric Beast. Amy. Micolash. Soothing Hymn. Hail the Nightmare. Laurence. Orphan.
>>335758428
>Better than any other vanilla Souls game.
Nope.
>>335758457
I would imagine it had something to do with gangbanging him with a phantom. You go 1v1 in the octagon, fucker.
>>335758428
>Better than any other vanilla Souls game.
What a dumb opinion.
>>335758293
If anything, Freja was the Duke's pet. The Duke being Seath, because, you know, he was granted dukedom by Gwyn. This is explicitly stated in DaS. Freja is "The Duke's Dear" pet. There's no evidence that Freja IS Seath.
Then in NG+ you get the Paledrake soul, which at best implies the spider consumed the soul, or Seath granted his soul to it, because he clearly had some affection for the thing. The more likely reason is laziness, and they just stuck it there for the Moonlight Greatsword to be in the game, with no actual lore reasoning behind it.
>>335751036
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>335758352
Well, I know for a fact R1 spam is effective because I played the game.
>>335753458
Lothric Bros & Dancer are cool I guess, but these bosses better than BB? You're fucking high, and I'm a mastuh race. Vanilla DaS3 has been pretty flat. Yeah, even SoC's 2nd phase. Woopdeedoo, three piano notes on top, I can't handle it.
Gwyn was a fucking chump.
>>335758714
Alright you're wrong but hey that's fine.
>>335758482
It made me think of how many violins are in the songs. I keep imagining a Bloodborne boss that's just a man menacingly approaching you whilst playing a violin.
>>335758627
>>335758293
Isn't Seath's petrified corpse on the fucking ceiling of the Arena? Can't that just be the reason the soul is found there? It's Seath's home. The Duke took up residence with his research.
>>335752790
>>335758696
what is this meme
>>335758428
>Better than any other vanilla Souls game.
Wow, no. Just no. Jesus.
>>335758627
>There's no evidence that Freja IS Seath.
It drops the soul.
You can try to make a BS explanation but then theres also Old Iron king and Lost Sinner and The Rotten dropping lord souls.
>>335752710
Nigga one of my favorite fights in the series was The Storm King in Demons' Souls cuz of that atmosphere and that barely qualifies as a boss fight.
Difficulty isn't everything nigga, god damn
>>335758387
Don't get hit then
>>335757965
Well yeah, everybody knows I'm a fictional character. What do you take this board for? A bunch of morons?
>>335759030
I agree. Astraea and Micolash are great fights precisely because their atmosphere.It's also why I like Wolnir. Fight me.
>>335759030
Storm King has a cool gimmick though. It's not just running around like a retard like Micolash or just a generic monster bash like Oceiros.
>>335752710
I thought he was hard solo but his dialogue was shit. It made no sense.
>>335758863
It could be. I'm not convinced that the Seath we fought in DaS was an illusion, though. His appearance is pretty unique; I don't think they'd change it so much, and the corpse looks nothing like Seath from DaS.
>>335759003
There's no evidence that the spider is Seath. There IS evidence that many creatures can absorb the souls of other beings, however. It's far more logical to assume the spider possessed the soul of Seath, somehow, and was not actually the Paledrake himself.
It's the same as claiming Oceiros is Seath because you can make the Moonlight Greatsword from his soul. There's no real logic behind it. Just correlation.
If you know of some item with relevant information in it, by all means, I'll concede. I'm rusty on DaSII item descriptions. But I'm not convinced that Freja was anything but a pet.
>>335759153
Wolnir had 10/10 cinematics. I turned around just in time to see him pull his sword out and was floored
>>335758792
>Ludwig
>Orphan
>Maria
>Gehrman
>Gasgoigne
No, I'm not high. These are the only great boss fights in BB and three of them are on the DLC.
>>335758932
All of the Great Ones are either implied or outright stated to be female.
The real question is if all Souls and Bloodborne bosses would fight against each other who would win?
>>335759320
why Oedeon ghost raping girls tho
>>335754908
> This is what console babies really believe
Jesus Christ, that's some high grade delusion. Easiest souls game by far with the most forgiving recovery system. I can't imagine how shit you must be to actually think Bloodborne is punishing.
>>335759038
Its just kind of a shame that the majority of enemy movesets were designed for players that use shields
Bloodborne got me used to not using them
>>335759232
>his dialogue was shit. It made no sense.
He's fucking bonkers, this is well established before you meet him. He's holding onto a baby that clearly isn't there, then he thinks he's looking for it even as you fight him.
Only when he realizes Ocelotte is gone does he go feral realizing how fucked everything is. This isn't that hard.
>>335759353
I dont think the Souls bosses would last very wll.
>>335759360
>Easiest souls game by far with the most forgiving recovery system.
Demon Souls.
>>335759353
Old King Doran would solo every boss from every game alone.
>>335752309
What was with the baby crying? At that point I felt like DS3 was just a ripoff of BB.
>>335756025
I fucking wish that was the case, I loved this boss to shit. Unfortunately all of his halberd moves are parryable, and after learning his moves in 4 fights, I perfected him on the 5th using only parries and didn't even take damage. If he dropped his halberd and just went Ong Bak on your ass I would have shit my pants.
>>335759562
Man even Biorr could solo every boss
>>335759582
>At that point I felt like DS3 was just a ripoff of BB.
Delusional. It's nothing like Mergo's Wet Nurse at all
>>335758457
using high stagger and high damage weapons normally help not seeing anything the boss does as he dies too quickly
>>335759562
>unsheathes katana
>teleport behind Old King
>one shot with pistol
>>335752309
You and me both, dude. I've been seeing this for days. "Then why do you hear a baby crying?!" Maybe it's because Oceiros, a king who transformed himself into a dragon because he's fucking insane, IS FUCKING INSANE.
Holy shit.
>>335759582
HE'S. INSANE.
>>335752309
Also Ocelotte isn't dead you fucking retard, his mother took him away.
>>335759353
Yhorn has it easy
>>335759418
What are you even talking about? Shields are less useful than the other games.
when the lord of cinder hit me with his whombo combo
>>335759283
There isnt really any concrete evidence, because these games have vague item descriptions. The strongest evidence is they drop the souls themselves. If they had merely absorbed it, they wouldnt drop the actual souls. Your character absorbs souls, and consuming souls as an item doesnt turn you into the being whos soul you absorbed. Like I said, you can speculate all you want that as well but I listed other different bosses in DS2 that drop Lord souls.
>>335755769
>difficulty makes a boss
i beat ludwig on my 2nd try at lvl 58, and hes my 3rd fav boss in bb.
i also first tried champ, and enjoyed him more than ludwig, so fuck off cuck.
>>335747951
Nah, but since Ludwig is DLC I'm sure the DaSIII DLC's will have something to rival it.
FROM expansions are usually some of the best content that they create, and considering that the original game is already quality, I'm hype.
>>335759418
I used my shield for a grand total of five minutes before I tossed it. BB ruined defensive playstyles for me.
>>335759772
Literally the most broken NPC in the series.
He is edgy incarnate, too, katanas and teleporting.
>>335754318
I'm using mine for Private WoW servers and 4chan
>>335759287
He had a sword?
Jesus Christ, From, why did you make this guy such a fucking chump? I killed him in like thirty seconds.
>>335759619
Really wish some bosses aren't parryable.
I mean he's fucking gigantic with a goddamn gigantic halberd and you're telling me you can parry that with a knuckle or target shield?
>>335760035
>DS3's DLC is confirmed to be purely the B-team instead of the A-team
I doubt it
>>335759875
>when I got hit very slightly by the tip in the middle of his wombo combo
>>335760089
>broken
Try bullshit. Fucking pistol was horseshit. Literally like a bone-ashed cannon to the face.
>>335759870
A ton of enemy movesets can be interrupted with a block
Not so much with attacks. Probably has to do with the fact that enemies have poise and you don't.
>>335759297
>Abyss Watchers is a shitty attempt to rehash Maria but is piss easy
>Pontiff is a difficult boss, that's all
>Nameless has an interesting first half and arena, not much else
>SoC is just an amalgamation of player archetypes with a second half that le epic faggots like because they throw some piano notes on top of his theme
I only like Dancer for her design, while the the Lothric bros were the truly standout boss in DaS3. Still, they're no Gehrman or Ludwig.
>>335759982
It's all about difficulty AND style, niglord.
>>335760138
B-team made the DaSII DLC's so I don't even care.
B-team is just as capable as A-team as long as namco doesn't fuck them sideways, which they did.
>>335760214
He's supposed to be hard as fuck, this nigger fucked up the hunter of hunters
>>335760317
>Day 1 season pass
You know it will be fucked up.
>>335760136
>Giant undead motherfucker with a weapon 5 times your size
>Swings so hard the debris he smacks out of the ground can knock you on your ass
>Attacks can be parried by a dinky little flick of a ninja knife
You better watch out, Ashen One knows about timed hits.
>>335760290
Lothric bros are easily better than Gehrman and you're underselling the others, but okay.
>>335760107
If you sucklike me, I was playing a Sorcery-only build and had to pull out my unupgraded dagger and poke away because my spells weren't hitting his wristletshe can actually chase you to a dead end. His mechanics at the dead end change, too.
>>335760317
Some of the DLC bosses were fine, but most of the level designs were pretty mediocre.
And the fact that the DLC is SEASON PASS DAY1 is already a bad sign
>>335760317
>As long as namco doesn't fuck them sideways
Heh, you realize they went from 2 dlc's to three right? Bamco is going to ruin what chance DS3 had for being great.
Also the Old hunters blows the everliving shit out of the three crown dlcs and I enjoyed those.
>>335756248
>Cohesive lore
kek
>>335760319
I wish we knew more about this edgy faggot. All we know is he's a fashion souls tryhard with 99 in every stat.
>>335756842
Whaaaat? Half of the game revolves around him and his "followers". I'm sure the Deep lore is mainly locked behind dlc, but there's a lot of people that talk about him and he has two entire levels practically dedicated to him. I think it's really cool that Anal Rodeo is his level now and that the only reason there are silver Knights is because he's eating Gwyndolin and using her powers to summon them as illusions. I think the main reason nothing special happened with him mid fight was the fact that he's sludge. Sludge don't spam no monologs during a fight. You should be disappointed that Yhorm got ass blasted in this game and has a 30 second level to his fog gate where you slap his shit silly with a Demon Souls weapon. I was really let down by all that jazz.
>>335760445
>tfw backed against the corner because his right hand never moves far from the stunlock-kill fog
>>335760383
>>335760463
At least they aren't blatantly lying like they did with Dark Souls 2. I don't think a day pass is going to be reflective of quality, especially with FROM's track record for expansion content.
I do agree a bit with the levels though. There better not be any coop area bullshit because those areas and bosses were somehow worse than vanilla das2, and from my understanding that was a decision made without bamco meddling. If it's anything like the majority of Brume or Loyce I'm game.
>>335760637
You gotta brave the fog anon
>>335760445
Aim your spells with bionculars
>>335760472
BB has objectively more cohesive lore than the DaS games. How can you deny that? BB kept the dream thing consistent, while DaS3 has two bosses you killed in the first game hanging off a Lord of Cinder or no legitimate reason.
The bosses in that DLC, especially Ludwig and maria where fucking phenomenal.
I still get shivers listening to Ludwig's theme.
I hope form never stops making these epic boss fighting games.
It's okay if they drop dark souls but please keep making this grandiose shit
>>335750792
>is there a harder boss than X when you're forced to have half HP
Amygdala isn't that hard when you fight it in the normal game even through ng+++
Making it so you die in one hit is fucking stupid.
Why not run naked in 3 with prisoner chain and calamity ring and say how each boss was hard since you die when they poke you once
>>335758792
The only good bosses in vanilla Bloodborne are Gehrman and Gasgoigne
Big monsters are always boring as fuck
>>335755108
>He hasn't unlocked his secret second form by consuming 3 tiny fabricators:Leekwyd the Serpent
>>335760445
That dead end shit is gimmicky as fuck, but I learned my lesson. Quit trying to MLG his shit and just brought my Great Axe along for the second try. Literally killed him before he could even start spawning skele-minions.
>>335760824
They pretty much have to do a sci-fi souls now
>>335748929
Did you forget that Ornstein and Smough does the same stupid shit?
>>335760874
>Fought him twice
>he never spawned any skeletons for me
What the fuck?
>>335760489
He's a average kindhearted vileblood. He was just minding his business in the cathedral ward ready do drink a delightful warm cup of fresh blood when he was interrupted by evil church servants that accused him of things he had no relation with. The whole fight was a misunderstanding and all he did was defend himself from hostile aggressors
>>335760806
>two bosses you killed in the first game
not canon since they were optional
and if you're too stupid to see what that means when a nigga is called Devourer of Gods then there's no point continuing this discussion
>>335761051
>overused
>It only happens once in DS1 and even then the fight and reward changes depending on who you kill first
Stop pretending to be retarded.
>>335760445
What the fuck? Were the bracelets a last minute addition or something to make the boss way easier? I never even knew he summoned skeletons. I killed him on my first goddamn try. This legitimately makes me mad.
>>335761024
stop pushing this shitty meme idea, "cyber souls" would be the gayest thing on earth
>>335761096
Can we get an edit of this with the Crow and Eileen?
>>335761084
He's the Pinwheel of DS3
>>335761325
I dunno, man. I enjoyed Hyper Light Drifter quite a bit.
>>335761325
>Derelict space stations
>Cosmic horrors
>Silent ambiance in deep space
I think the ideal setting would be an abandoned space colony. It could be huge and have tons of environments.
It has potential
>>335760290
>Abyss Watchers is a shitty attempt to rehash Maria but is piss easy
This meme again. They're not even similar.
>Pontiff is a difficult boss, that's all
His design and lore are very interesting.
>Nameless has an interesting first half and arena, not much else
Amazing atmosphere and broad moveset where timing is crucial.
>SoC is just an amalgamation of player archetypes with a second half that le epic faggots like because they throw some piano notes on top of his theme
Insulting people isn't really helping your arguments. His presentation, the way he's just resting at the bonfire when you reach him and the way he's a representation of CU and Gwyn were masterfully done.
>>335761325
What do you want then? Oni Souls? Like Japan needs to jack off their romanticized feudal era boner anymore than they already have.
They could do an SMT-style modern fantasy where you slay monsters in hip urban areas with weapons summoned from phone apps.
>>335760294
if style is part of the equation than champ shits on ludwig imo. ive seen big dudes holding swords far too often, i havent seen tekken in dark souls.
orphan is better anyways
>>335759772
>this is the kind of faggot Executioners had to deal with
>tfw you realise you're babby casual mode and would've been slaughtered if you were around during the forefront of the Vilebloods vs Executioner wars
Feels bad man.
>>335761118
>not canon
LOL, are you really trying to use that argument in the Souls series? The same series in which there are multiple endings for each game, only they're all irrelevant because of muh space/time distortion?
>>335748713
Siegward appearing at Yhorm was pretty amazing
>>335761645
No more souls like games, how about that?
>>335761325
>stop pushing this shitty meme idea, "victorian souls" would be the gayest thing on earth
And yet Bloodborne is an amazing game
>>335760786
Didn't think you could in DaS3
>>335761645
>Desert Souls with Egypt and Mesopotamia
>Jungle Souls with Aztec/Maya/Inca shit and/or WE WUZ KINGZ
>Deep Sea Souls
All three preferable to Cyber Souls, personally.
>>335761616
>Maria and AW aren't similar
Maria uses blood for fire attacks. AW (which already ripped off BB because of the wolf blood thing) uses blood for fire attacks.
The Pontiff is just an evil guy, nothing interesting lorewise about that.
>>335761664
I fucking loved how Orphan moved, that nigga was all over the place like a DMC boss.
Best bosses from their game imo;
>False King
>Artorias
>Sinh
>Orphan
>THE CHAMP
>>335761645
Cave Souls
You play as a caveman, and you club dinosaurs, mammoths and lizardmen to death
>>335762234
I think we already got our Jungle Souls with the ruin area in DaS2.Desert souls mitebcool
>>335762320
>already ripped off BB because of the wolf blood thing
>The Pontiff is just an evil guy, nothing interesting lorewise about that
>>335761645
Worl Souls
Classes are different countries, germany fights with a huge pretzel, US with a burger, france with a baguette etc.
Bosses are cliches and landmarks
>>335762445
>i have no rebuttal so I'll just post a .gif
Thank you my friend, I have seen the light.
>>335762320
>BB invented blood
Holy shit are you serious?
They use fire because they're lords of cinder you utter retard.
>The Pontiff is just an evil guy, nothing interesting lorewise about that.
>preaches a cult to batshit crazy undead
>gives his knights rings that make them lose their minds
>cursed the Dancer
>betrayed Gwyndolin and fed him to Aldrich
'nothing interesting lorewise about that.'
>>335762742
You don't deserve a serious response for saying anything with wolves and blood is a rip off of Bloodborne.
Abyss Watchers are a throwback to Artorias whose motif was the wolf you gigantic retard
>>335761645
I would be okay with SMT styled,so long as it was more like Nocturne or Strange Journey than Persona, though i don't know if Persona actually counts as SMT
>>335762320
>The Pontiff is just an evil guy, nothing interesting lorewise about that.
Dude, all the lore involving Aldrich, Pontiff, and the Deep throw the entire lore of Dark Souls on its head. The implication that there has somehow been manufactured a new elemental alternative to the First Flame from moonlight, magic, and the deep is interesting as fuck.
Lothric Prince's came super close.
Unfortunately it was one of the only incredible moments in the game for me and even though they were my favorite boss they were also pretty easy.
DaS3 is definitely leaps above 2 though.
>>335761645
>Wanting EVEN MORE modern games
There are enough
We need Ancient Age Souls
Babylonian beasts, Minoan Labyrinths, Hoplite gear, Aztec sacrifical gods, mummies and shit
>>335761987
>I don't like the series so NOBODY should like the series
>>335762757
>betrayed Gwyndolin
Where is it implied that they were ver in leauge?
Also
>>bloodborne invented blood
that isn't what he said you idiot, it's very obvious that AW ripped off Maria
>fighting Maria
>all the blood in the arena gathers into her
>she now does fire damage
>Fighting AW
>same exact thing happens
Gee I wonder why someone might think they're similar???
>>335764235
That's not what i'm saying, but i think it woulb be nice to just have another kind of game for once and not just another souls combat reskin
But i guess that's what people love
>>335764248
>blood in the arena gathers into Abyss Watchers
'no'
That was their embers, you know the whole thing Lords of Cinder work by?
>>335764426
FromSoftware is not the only video game developer ever, anon. I think they should stick to doing what they do best.
>>335764473
So you're saying that the cutscene where their blood leaves their dead bodies and gathers into one then embuing his sword with fire didn't happen?
Oh ok I guess I was playing something else then.
>>335764248
Pontiff praised the moon and wanted to study moon magic in such. I don't think it's really said that he ever made contact with Gwyndolin but he obviously wanted to go down that route.
>>335764248
>Wolf Blood Master implied to be Artorias
>they all share the wolf blood
>fire damage because cinder mode
>lel Maria ripoff
BB fags are this retarded.
>>335764621
Literally not their blood
>>335747951
So why is these scene posted so much? Him talking to his sword? Why do people like this scene when it's so standard in this game?
>Abyss Watchers isnt a copy of maria
I know DS3 has nothing memorable but couldnt you guys come up with better memes?
>>335764426
then...buy other games? FROM doesn't exist in a vacuum
>>335764870
>DS3 has nothing memorable
You should come up with better memes too.
>>335753547
I'm sorry you can't deal with the lack of lagstabs.
>>335764541
>>335764931
What if i want Armored Core?
>>335764762
Are you fucking dense motherfucker? Nobody is saying lorewise it's a ripoff, it's the fucking concept and it's obvious they're similar, you would know this if you played both games.
>>335764787
Oh alright so the red stuff was the embers and then the little glowy things flittering around the embers were?? What was that stuff because I thought it was the embers wrapped about in the blood, but I guess I'm seeing the cutscene wrong? Also the importance of the wolf's blood and what the covenant stands for I guess means nothing? It couldn't have been the wolf's blood or anything?
I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this, but i genuinely found Lorian and Lothric on the same level of Ludwig. I just really liked the two crippled brothers teaming up to fight you, and the music was amazing and new magic moves were cool. Also the fight is just fun as fuck. Other things that come close is probably SoC, and the realization of what you are fighting, with Gwyn coming back at the end, and Nameless King, solely due to all the speculation on the firstborn and us finally getting to fight him.
>>335765038
Then go play Armored Core.
>>335765248
Why do you want another souls game if you can just play the old ones then?
>>335765139
>Also the importance of the wolf's blood and what the covenant stands for I guess means nothing? It couldn't have been the wolf's blood or anything?
It's all about Artorias, who was around with those motifs before Bloodborne was you dip.
>>335765139
>Are you fucking dense motherfucker? Nobody is saying lorewise it's a ripoff, it's the fucking concept and it's obvious they're similar, you would know this if you played both games.
Their moveset is different and the first phase is literally nothing alike. I did play both games and you're retarded as fuck.
>>335765171
Thanks for being reasonable anon, now be prepared to meet all of the
>u dint think whole game 10/10 ?!!?!
>u just sonygger!!
>git gud!
I completely agree with the princes that cutscene and fight was 10/10 even though it was easy as hell
>>335765171
You're right that they are. They're also way more significant to the game and there's a better build up than just suddenly running into a beast with the name of a guy that came up in a few item descriptions before. Lorewise Ludwig is weak.
>>335747951
The grudge against Sony will just never go away for me.
>>335765171
They're definitely the climax of the game, SoC and NK are also pretty good and are arguably better fights but everything surrounding the two princes(lore, music, atmosphere, buildup) make them the better boss.
>>335765321
Do you even know what you're trying to say anymore? You do realize you're arguing that all the red shit that flows into the abyss watcher during that cutscene isn't blood right? Go back up and read your posts if you can't remember the point you're trying to argue, which is fucking retarded btw.
>>335765338
Holy shit you actually are retarded, sorry anon I will spell things out a little bit more clearly for you.
The similarities between AW and Maria are that in the later phase of the fight both of them gather up blood and then have fire on their sword with similar presentation, in that it wraps around them in a trail following their swings. You see, nobody was talking about the first phase and nobody said they have the same moveset, just that they were similar for the fire shit and ya know I'm really beginning to wonder why.
I mean Bloodborne came out before DaS3 and so people fought MAria before fighting AW so I'm just trying to figure out why they would fight AW, see him do the same thing as Maria with similar effects and then compare the two. I'm also wondering why people would say it's a ripoff of Maria, maybe because she came first? I dunno though, I think the more logical thing to do would be to copletely ignore all similarities and get really upset at people judging a videogame based on the game preceding it that was made by the same studio. I assume that's what you're doing? Is it working out well for you?
>>335753959
he said princes
>>335765312
Compromise.
Armored Souls.
>>335766013
Dude you're autistic as fuck. Fire has a justification there because it's a Lord of Cinder. Blood is the Wolf's Blood. The 'similarities' end there. They're almost nothing alike and you're a complete retard for even trying to argue that.
>>335766013
So they fight nothing alike, and do something with their powers inspired by a character that came before Maria, but they're a rip off of her.
Sure thing bloodbabby
>>335766126
>I swear the only good themes are Pontiff, Dancer, Vordt and Gundyr
>>335766276
So you admit they have similarities then? Ok thanks for playing. Btw I missed the part where I said that they were the exact same as you seem to think I said.
>>335766316
>and do something with their powers inspired by a character that came before Maria
What about absorbing the blood of your comrades and getting fire on your sword has anything to do with Artorias? Would you care to explain?
Lots of "best X" threads, but what is the WORST boss in each Souls game?
>Demon's = Dragon God
>Dark Souls = Bed of Chaos
>Dark Souls II = Twin Dragonriders
>Bloodborne = Micolash, Host of the Nightmare
>Dark Souls III = ?
>>335766748
Wyvern
>>335766571
I guess Dancer is also similar to Maria because they're women and use blades and fire. Might as well throw Queelag there too. Fucking retard.
If the fight itself was better/harder I'd say this would be equal to ludwig. But the fight was just too easy honestly.
https://youtu.be/J4KjLWUZkbU
>>335766748
>Micolash, Host of the Nightmare
>bad
Are you fucking joking? Its one of the most memorable fights in the game for the dialogue alone.
>>335766748
Leechmonger
Pinwheel
Ancient Dragon
Hemwick or SHadows of Yahrnam
Wyvern or Deacons
>>335767023
Dialogue doesn't make the actual fight good.
>>335766959
The whole arena was also a little underwhelming and it felt like he deserved another phase.
>>335766748
I actually liked twin dragonriders because it reminded me of Agni and Ruda
>>335766851
>shifting goalposts
Lol isn't it past your bedtime kid? Dancer starts off with fire which is pretty typical for Souls bosses, if we're going to use your logic (which we won't because it's retarded) then we would say Dancer is just like Gwyn too and SoC. Notice how nobody is saying AW was a ripoff of Gwyn even though they both use fire swords? Wow geez I wonder why? Maybe it's because AW, like Maria, doesn't get fire until absorbing a bunch of blood. Wow, that reminds me of another bossfight, I wonder which one? There was this one chick Maria, and later in her fight she absorbs a bunch of blood from the arena and then her weapon has this cool fire trail that swings around her whole body, geez, why does that make me think of AW second phase? I really can't figure out the similarities.
I'm done trying to get the point across through your thick fucking skull, nowhere am I saying that AW is a bad fight or that BB is better or anything, just making a point on the similar concepts and of course you have to white knight it up as if I'm coming through your computer and shitting on your copy of DaS3.
Why don't you just accept that FROM likes to carry certain concepts between games and that sometimes it works out better than others? I don't see anybody complaiing about the Moonlight Greatsword being in every game, but maybe just maybe people were a little let down when they saw AW second phase and it wasn't its own completely original conceptunlike Maria who was her own concept and ten times better than the AW without even being more difficult
>>335753547
>It looks so easy.
PC Master race right here lads.
>>335753462
Normal BLB is harder than headless. The poison attacks leave him so much more open than the physical attacks
