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ROUND TWO MOTHERFUCKERS
GAMESPOT STREAM IN 25 MINUTES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsWaTIlNGlw
Anybody have the reuploaded leaked trailer?
>>335724657
I wonder what they are going to show.
>>335725094
>>1055967
>>1055969
>>335724657
The Bethesda twitch is back up too. Same broadcast?
>>335724657
So is this gonna be the same as the Bethesda broadcast or is there gonna be a reason to watch it?
>>335724657
I'm actually going to tune into this one.
It better be fucking good shills.
>>335725794
new footage
>>335725917
Ah okay.
Maybe they'll actually play it with a KB+M.Pffffffft, who am I kidding
>>335725890
It's just doom 3 with much less action, more horror and more exploration. It's what doom 3 supposed to be.
There are obviously some modern stuff like upgrades and perks but it plays like FPS games from 2000-2005.
>>335726045
I meant less horror more action.
Did they show the bfg in the earlier stream?
>>335726045
>much less action
>it plays like FPS games from 2000-2005
>>335726159
No, it's early parts of the game. Shotgun, pistol, chain gun, plasma gun, and upgrades. Also, edgy chainsaw kills.
>>335726159
Yeah, it looked kinda cool actually.
They also showed the pistol, the chaingun, both shotguns, the plasma rifle, rocket launcher and the heavy machine gun
can they at least play on ultra-violence if they are gonna use a controller
>>335724657
>Doom thread
>posts a pic of a scrapjack
>>335726402
>Bare midsection
>He doesn't even have a bare middle in the game sprites
>>335726430
It's a Hell Knight.
IT'S BEEN LIVE FOR MINUTES ON TWITCH
>>335726159
Bfg is exactly like in doom 3, large green orb that shoots lightning and blows up for massive damage when it hits something
>>335726481
It's obviously based on the cover art, dingus.
stream starting
>>335724657
Not sure how I feel about the chainsaw. Basically the chainsaw has charges (you start with three but can increase the amount through upgrades) and you use one for smaller demons and all small bars for bigger ones. After you kill a demon with a chainsaw you get a lot of ammo that pretty much replenishes all your weapons.
>>335726430
>There is a universe where Croteam was chosen to develop a Doom title.
THE TWITCH STREAM IS A REPEAT.
>>335726916
I prefer the old chainsaw.
I hope Berserk pack is in, otherwise I'll be upset
>>335726952
How to make Doom:
>Fast
>Demons
>Good level design
>Good atmosphere
>METAL SOUNDTRACK
>WEAPONS
>>335726916
>>335727089
No actual melee attacks for you, just cutscene takedowns.
>happy with the response to the beta
Sweet Halo trailer!
I would buy with all the DLC!
Charge me up I am ready to play like every other fps the same game over and over again!
>>335727156
Such a simple list and yet here we are.
>>335727194
>mini cutscene for every door unlock, every keyboard use, every weapon pickup
Sometimes I want to cry
>>335727280
>losers downvoting on steam means anything
wew m8
>>335727297
A FPS with good level design in these time? I wish
>>335727334
I don't think you know what cutscenes are.
>>335727156
>doom = metal
Nigga, again with this meme.
>>335727430
I said mini cutscene nigga
Same with the chainsaw kills
What would you call it?
>ENEMIES HAVE WEAK SPOTS
LOL
>>335724657
Why the fuck are those POP figures even in production? Does people actually collect this garbage?
>>335727413
Well, that's exactly what Romero is planning on doing with Blackroom.
>>335727334
>someone actually said this Doom is exactly the same as the first Doom
>console footage
Into the fucking trash it goes
>>335727413
Out of genuine curiosity, what would you consider to be good level design? This is a general question, anyone reading should feel free to chime in.
map looked promising at least
>>335727639
>even Brutal Doom is more faithful to the original than D44M
Every day we stray further away from God's light.
>>335727580
I can't watch the stream right now, someone said in an earlier that you had to shoot pinkies' backs, and that their backs become exposed when you dodge their charge attack, is that right?
>Plasma rifle has a stun mode
LOL
Fucking Halo 5 has more enemies on screen than this.
>>335727829
Tutorial level. They just mentioned it.
>>335727809
Yup.
An SSG to the face no longer kills a Pinky.
Thanks neo-id
>>335727829
Twitch stream showed two hell knights, a revenant several imps and other demons appearing a huge room.
>>335727901
The one they're showing on twitch is a latter level
>>335724657
I'm sorry but the constant epic melee takedowns really kills it for me. Fuck Bethesda.
>>335727736
Some examples: First levels of Duke Nukem 3D are the perfection of level design. I liked the Max Payne 2 level design.
>>335727774
>Devs said that Brutal Doom was their main inspiration for Neo-Doom
>Neo-Doom plays even less like a Doom game than a wad made with the main intention to feel different from the vanilla game
>>335724657
>TFW you have that old-ass mancubus mini sitting next to your ordinator mini in a shrine to autism by your monitor
>>335727981
Twitch one is a repeat from earlier today. Watch the Youtube one.
this looks smooth as hell i dont know what you guys are nitpicking for
literally no one gives a damn about halo with cacodemons
I dont even click on links about it, or watch videos, or care about pirating it or playing it
doom 1 and 2 are good, doom3 is average, and doom 4 is nothing but console junk
>>335727989
dude you can just opt not to use the glory kills
or the hud
or the damage indicators
or the upgrades
or the ......
>>335727989
You can turn them off.
I just got here, summarize it for me, is the single player fucked?
>>335724657
>handgun has infinite ammo
dropped
>>335727736
Never really thought about it, but I generally like it when a level has shortcuts/loops and lots of ways to go about it. Lots of secrets and hidden items are always welcome.
>>335727963
It's very unlike Doom to have to wait until after an enemy attacks before attacking to maximize damage output. Save that shit for hack n slash games with parrying systems.
It seems to me that these devs have no clue what they're doing and are just shoving in features they observed in other games and other genres that they think are cool.
>>335728248
Nah
TEN MORE MINUTES UNTIL I'M OFF THE CLOCK.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335728248
Wolfenstein with high jumping.
It's fucking HaloDoom.
Jesus fuck.
Fuck this shit.
>>335728276
faggot
That was pretty cool, not gonna lie.
just halo my shit up senpai
>>335724657
Some secrets in the campaign reveal "Rune trials" where you can for example, kill enemies during a specific time using only your rocket launcher. Apart from upgrading options to your guns and Praetor armor, you can also get demonic upgrades. These upgrades are not unlocked by using upgrade point or something like that but by killing for example 100 enemies of a specific type of demon.
>>335728405
>>335728446
Halo is a CoD clone now, people.
>>335728248
Pretty much Doom with most of the modern FPS cancer bullshit.
It will be decent, probably. Not amazing, but not bad either.
Bethesda stream was alright, but the GameSpot stream actually lets you hear the fucking game audio, amazing.
>universal ammo pick ups
>find the keycard
>takes you right back to where you need it
Backtracking too hard for players these days?
>>335728308
Earlier the dev guy said "The cool thing about Doom is how simple it is" and then he proceed to show like 3 separate upgrade systems.
So yeah, pretty much what you said.
>Having the main protag in FPSes finger fuck every gun he picks up makes my dick rock hard.
I love you, id.
>>335728360
>being such a fag you can't manage do survive with a chainsaw or spiked knuckles
>>335724657
That mancubus looks amazing. I want it.
Oh yeah the game. Screw that game. Do not care for it at all anymore.
>>335728145
>Doom 3
>average
How can you possibly say Doom 4 will be console junk when Doom 3 is anything, but a Doom game? I liked /v/ better when people meme'd about no duct tape on Mars and hurrhurr spewky demons the video game.
>zombie pops out from the stairs
>average Doom game!
>>335728582
Not universal. Bullets, shells, plasma, and so on.
>>335726430
Excuse me sir that is clearly a juggernaut
>>335727334
sounds like you're overreacting
>punching the drone
Oh so they're going for the comic book "RIP AND TEAR" psychotic asshole Doomguy eh?
>>335728169
No you cannot. You can turn off the spectacle and lights, and you can "just ignore them bro".
But you will also be at a disadvantage because there are power-ups attached to glory kills.
So fuck off shill.
>Berserk confirmed
RIP AND TEAR.
>Berserk now lasts about a minute
GOD
FUCKING
DAMMIT
>>335728912
what power-ups?
I think the only thing i like is the sound design.
>Tfw you RIP AND TEAR
I think single player will be fun at least.
holy shit berserk
>>335728854
I thought it wasn't actually canon but then again is really THE doom guy?
>>335728912
You can turn them off. They showed this in the Beth stream. You can turn off Glory Kills or just the notification.
THE GAME HAS FISTS
YOU CAN PUNCH SHIT
The zerk is cool
>/v/ pretending they dont like this
lmao these painkiller segments are 10/10
>>335729001
i dont like it at all, it sounds so bad
atleast Mick killed it in KI, this just sounds generic and awful
>>335729000
Nice trips
You get a damage boost if you do enough of those glory kills.
Shit, forgot this was on.
>>335728912
Git gud and you won't need them.
Also, they're scattered around the map like classic Doom as well.
>>335728582
They're not universal though it was only boxes of shells so far. They even have separate models.
>>335728596
Everything needs to be streamlined into oblivion for the mouthbreathing console audiences these days.
>>335729114
It's pretty faithful industrial metal.
game seems like it has a lot of non-linearity at least
the guns don't look awful either when you don't plaster neon colored skins on them
>>335729057
>>335729024
>>335729017
>>335728936
Did you guys miss the timer on that thing?
Once you get it you only have like a minute to use it, then it's gone.
Did they show Berserk? I thought it was the same demo as the Bethesda stream.
>>335728912
I bet you'll be forced to use the chainsaw in some levels of the game in order to replenish your ammo as ammo pickup won't be around or minimal.
>>335729170
not really, i heard alot of wubs in that shit
is there a soundtrack release anywhere so i can hear the entire product and not just the "IM IN COMBAT" music?
>>335729138
I wasn't the guy that you were talking to dumbass
>>335729240
and I bet you won't
what now faggot?
>>335729223
That's fine. That's how it worked in Doom 3 too, and that worked fine.
I know you guys shit all over this game being like Halo but at least Halo was a much better content filled shooter back then. At least before 343 ruined it. Halo had it's own niche of fans and regardless of how much so many of you hate it Halo had a unique gameplay experience.
This game does look like Halo but also similar to certain other games like CoD. It looks like a bastardization that doesn't know what it wants to actually be. Bungie knew how to make a shooter on consoles that will appeal to console shooter fans. id here clearly is shitting on the old fanbase while making something that will likely die in weeks after the initial hype dies down. This game will please no one.
>>335729114
Did you mean the music? I was talking about actual sound. Weapons and heads exploding.
replayed q2 this weekend, now im playing first one
looking at the stream, level design reminds me a lot of the old iD games
especially hidden places/paths to armor. looks exactly like quake type of design
>>335726430
Croteam was so close to get chosen to make a Doom game but was scrapped at the end cause muh geography and time zone.
Still, they didn't just throw away the prototype assets they made and it shows with scrapjacks and khnums.>mfw Croteam is a exponentially better developer than id now
>>335729228
why would I watch such a mediocre movie?
>>335729356
thats a cool narrative you formed based on absolutely nothing
>>335729272
I didn't hear wubs, I heard distortion and hard strings.
>>335729240
That would be too clever for modern id. But that would actually be cool.
>>335729352
Fuck that, I want my Doom 1 style Berserk pack.
But then again Pinkies can't be damaged from the front so there's probably no point to it.
>>335724657
well I'll be goddamned
it actually seems a bit fastish now
>>335729381
yes, i meant the music
the leaked trailer music sounded awesome
This music sounds really bad
>perk in single player mode
>glory kills can earn you a speed boost
conflicted
>>335729305
Guess we'll have to wait until the game is released and see for ourselves.
>>335729413
Say what you want about Croteam, but at least they made the most faithful oldschool FPS sequel we've seen in years.
>Arcade challenges
Christ
> yfw doom has got upgrade trees now
>>335729402
You play Wolfenstein TNO/TOB? It had that too.
>beating a Pinky with its own ass
>>335729628
Like 3 of them.
1 for the suit, 1 for the weapons and 1 for the runes
>overwhelming amount of demons
>three at a time means overwhelming
>>335729628
>>335729525
Wolfenstein TNO did, too.
HALLWAYS AND CORRIDORS
>>335724657
> still no new demon death scenes
literally only point in playing.
>Megasphere is no longer a chocolate ball with a Mancubus Face
>How many guns? 20?
>>335729630
tried the first one. new order was it?
dont know what went wrong but it bored me to death. not saying its a bad game, but it just didnt work for me somehow
>>335729712
He showed the codex list and it showed how many demons he killed and how many different types. The thing I noticed was that he killed very few different types of demons or "possessed" and most of them were regular zombie-like possessed enemies. And this is at a point in the game where you pretty much have all the weapons and is about halfway the game.
Woah woah wait a minute
Can you switch weapons with number keys?
Don't tell me it's just the weapon wheel now?!
>>335730130
He won't fucking say
>no mods, just snapmap shit
>>335729057
Yeah, you can punch yourself in the head when you find out how retarded you are for buying this.
>>335730089
Try The Old Blood, then. It's even more action orientated, outside of a very brief stealth section at the start.
>>335730130
You can use number keys, wheel, or mouse wheel.
Source: Bethesda stream
They seem pretty confident that the weapon wheel will let you switch weapons quickly if you can master the muscle memory with the analog stick. So why not allow you to carry more than two weapons in MP, even on console? Doesn't seem like you can cite the controller as a limitation on that matter anymore.
That chat stream has so many trolls in it, haha. How many of us are in it?
Looks good though. Ultra-Nightmare will be brutal like Max Payne 3's NYM hardcore mode.
>>335730212
I'd really appreciate if you killed yourself. I'm gonna pirate it anyway so you can eat shit.
>>335726430
xcuse me sir it's clearly you're mouther
STATUES
T
A
T
U
E
S
Snap Map sounds exactly like the map creator in Time Splitters.
>>335730336
it looks like shit
its slow, easy and the AI just kinda states at you
plus upgrade trees?
>>335730253
Oh okay, thank god. I was worried there for a second
>>335730309
they outsourced the multiplayer for some stupid reason
>>335730342
you already killed me with that post you did previously.
>>335730242
You can kill ubersoldaten, take their chainguns are play with them without stealth though.
>secret rooms
>"do you just go around pressing space to find them?"
>"some entrances are highlighted"
>>335730453
>its slow
wot
>easy and the AI just kinda states at you
because it's on hurt me plenty.
>>335730587
Some were in classic Doom, retard. Many were highlighted with mismatched textures.
>>335729240
pistol is literally quake 2 blaster.
>>335730089
Yeah same here.
I tried playing it twice but I only got to the underwater submarine part before I just got too bored and quit.
Don't know what people see in it
>>335730479
And I hope you stay dead.
>>335730606
Not that Anon, but it looks fucking slow compared to Serious Sam or Painkiller games.
i dont know how i feel about
>perks
but otherwise this looks fun
>>335730587
If you get the computer they get highlighted. He said in the last stream that not every secret is shown.
>>335730460
yeah I know, that's probably why the two wep limit was made in the first place, but worringly it seems that the classic dm maps you can make in snapmap still limit you to two weapons for some reason, when obviously that really isn't necessary, especially considering that snapmap is supposed to let you make classic style DMs (two wep limit obviously not a classic sort of thing)
>>335730731
quake 4 blaster
Alternative fire is charged shot
>>335730587
There's an upgrade to your Praetor armor that will make a sound whenever you get close to secrets.
>Lost Souls die on impact
>>335730606
The AI in Doom 1 & 2 never changed between skill levels. The only thing that changed (except for Nightmare) is the number of monsters, ammo, and ability to use cheats.
There no good reason to fro the AI to be gimped in this game.
>you must complete the game to unlock higher difficulty
when will this bullshit stop?
>Bloodstain system in Nightmare mode
Fuck yeah.
>>335731000
I kind of like this, makes them less annoying.
They also seem to from less shots
>>335730719
Whatever you say, peanut.
can you turn off the weapon wheel slowdown?
Dumb dumb dumb
Looks like they made this game with the mindset that it's a shooter
Not that it's DOOM.
Remember doomclones? How doom defined a genre—the DOOM GENERE.
It honestly makes me angry. This isn't a doom game.
hold on now, I'm putting together an autistic list of why this is a horrible doom game - not a horrible game, but a horrible DOOM game. There is a difference.
I wouldn't give a crap if they called this Hell Battle 2045 or whatever
>>335724657
>this game is literally a remake, there's not much of a change apart from the graphics
People actually still care for this game after that piece of shit beta? I'm sorry for you.
>>335731196
Please don't waste your time. Nobody cares.
>>335730182
mod name?
>On the uh... uh... the uh... the PC!
No way in hell I'm even buying this game.
I can't believe I was even a little hype for it.
Complete fucking trash. The levels look so bad and the guns aren't beefy enough aside from that gatling gun.
>>335731243
We want to believe anon
>ps4
Does the chainsaw 1 shot anything at full health?
>>335731486
Yes
>>335724657
> you can turn off glory kills and hud markers
thank fuck, shame level design is shitty
>we might split of in two directions for 10 seconds if you're lucky
I'm just gonna go play brutal doom to purge the images of this stream from my brain.
Jesus christ, how horrifying.
>>335731283
You cared enough to reply you time-wasting retard.
>>335731196
The circle is complete. Instead of the good guys of gaming influencing the rest of the industry, they become mediocre hacks that follow the trendy shit that makes the most money.
It truly is sad.
Btw, what do think of the recent John Romero map?
>>335731486
Yes, but there's ammo bars for the chainsaw so you can only use it for a few times until you find whatever refills the bars. Also, the bigger and stronger the enemies are, the more bars you use.
Hell reminds me of the burial moon level in Star Wars: Bounty Hunter crossed with the Skedar levels in Perfect Dark.
>>335731603
>im going to play shit
good for you
>>335731542
Pretty sure it was only glory kills highlights not the glory kill mechanic itself though.
>supporting this
>>335731775
What's wrong with brutal doom?
>>335724657
stretch marks are sexy
>load from checkpoint
so, no quick saving?
>>335731873
Play a real crazy mod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RElfXigIe4c
>>335731836
>AAA dev/publisher want a game to sell
Shocking.
>>335731917
They're playing on a PS4
>Enemies can glory kill you
Rekt
>>335731917
>quicksaving
>console shooter
pick one
>>335731836
>Doomfags, this is your mindset.png
>>335731873
It's the reason this fucking game exists, are you dense?
> got killed by an imp
kek
>Playing with a controller
I will never understand this.
>Grenades recharge
I'm not sure how to feel about this
>>335731305
That's no mod anon it's the vanilla laser gun.
>>335731959
Looks okay I guess, just someone with high hp punching and hitting everything at close range.
>>335731243
Doom has never had good multiplayer.
>This fucking music
I can only get so erect guys, come on.
Game looks shit. Anyone hype for battle born? Just me?
Looks like the guns take a large part of the screen sometimes.
>Commander Keen Doomguy
Nice
Here is a picture that overall sums up my reaction to doom4.
>>335732270
I'm hype for both, they look great.
>that fucking soundtrack
>>335732270
>>335732483
Gearbox pls
>>335732110
Were they inspired by the new Battlefront?
>>335732521
it sounds really bad
>>335732209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq5ojOqG__4
>>335728169
That lazy garbage shouldn't be there in the first place
>>335724657
the slow movement speed kills the game for me
>>335732521
Eh, doesn't really do anything for me
>>335732605
Thanks captain contrarian.
Halo with pinata demons LMAO
no thank you
NEED RUNES AND UPGRADES TO BEAT UV.
LOL
>all these fat babies who would never be satisfied regardless
>>335731000
Thank god.
Lost souls are the worst fucking enemy in doom.
>>335732741
So your upgrades and unlocks are persistent from one playthrough to another?
I think it looks better than the new Wolfenstein.
There is some serious shilling going on in this thread.
Are there Pain Elementals? I haven't seen them mentioned.
>>335732765
and they wonder why no one bothers pandering to the PCuck manchild audience (90% of whom would pirate anyway)
>There are two Mancubi right next to each other
>Just waltzes right the fuck on up to one because he has zero sense of anything being a threat
It's not the slowness of the game alone that's disgusting, it's how he's walking around in open areas and isn't being punished for it because the game has to be slow enough to accommodate moving with a controller. How the fuck is it okay to be able to get into melee range of what's supposed to be one of the more dangerous enemies in the game and then backpedal out like it's no big deal? That just makes his getting jumped by the imp even more insulting.
>>335732846
Probably not.
>>335724657
>yeah people whining are not fans of doom. there new school shooter fans that dont get it.
>>335732876
Lots of 2K shills active over the last few days. Overwatch ones, too. I'm tired of the shitty Overwatch threads.
>>335732854
Can't wait for IdTech on PC again, no AA or SLI support just like TNO
looks better than Doom 3 single player
>>335726952
>DOOM will never be graced with Croteam's slav magic
game looks like a nice bit of fun.
>>335733000
Serious Engine isn't very impressive. It's impressive for the team it's coming from, but looks like shit compared to the bigger engines.
>>335732903
>Implying PC mustard race isn't as bad at shooters.
>>335732986
AA and SLI support confirmed for new DOOM
>>335732903
>They slowly walk up to the player instead of shooting
>>335733067
And yet the range of customization blows bigger engines out of the water.
>>335733067
who gives a fuck about engine? it's the gameplay that matters
>>335732903
It's hurt me plenty, of course it's easy.
>>335733067
>but looks like shit compared to the bigger engines.
Talos Principle looks better than a lot of AAA games out right now senpai
>>335733000
>waaah this sucks
>why dont they make it like that game where its just giant flat maps with endless horde enemies
yeah cause thats totally doom right
>>335732997
>Wave based
>Better than Doom 3
L O L
>>335733096
console baby doesn't know the first thing about arena shooters, shocking
>>335733103
can i get a source Anon? Would genuinely like to see confirmation
>>335732903
>It's not the slowness of the game alone that's disgusting, it's how he's walking around in open areas and isn't being punished for it because the game has to be slow enough to accommodate moving with a controller.
There's FPSes that can be played with a controller where it's not done babby slow and you're getting punished for that. Bethesda once again shows how their studios have no understanding of what they're doing with their franchises while also being plain incompetent. Talking about this game is a waste of breath, just let it fucking rot as fast as possible so we can all forget about it and move on.
>>335733189
"Slav magic" has nothing to do with making a good game.
>>335732876
>being excited for a game makes you a shill
>>335732528
Seriously though I am not gear box. Persuade me not to buy battle born then.
>>335733235
Dude, I've played Doom on LAN. I played Quake 2 online on LAUNCH. I am depressingly old.
>that fucking cyberdemon toy
>>335733225
Doom 3 had waves too.
In fact 90% of the ecounters with enemies are
>hit the trigger
>enemies spawn in behind you
>wall with zombies opens up
>trites start to crawl out
>Cyberdemon
>>335732903
Controller has nothing to do with it. The original Doom games can be played perfectly fine with a controller. This is just bad design.
>>335733241
Bethesda.net, article name is DOOM on PC
> i am glad it's over.jpg
>>335733428
They don't stop your progress you imbecile.
You can literally ignore them, unlike this game.
>>335733438
Doom has become NORMIEEEESSS MEME.
how do we go from this...
>>335733483
thanks anon
>>335733528
They lock you in the room until demons stop spawning in. Play Doom 3 sometime.
>>335733545
Doom has always appealed to normies.
>>335732521
>that fucking soundtrack
This thread reminded me why I stopped coming to this board for over a year. Think it's time to leave again. See you hopefully never again you stupid, miserable, cynical shitheads. Enjoy not enjoying anything you fucking faggots.
Im not trying to be contrarian when I say this game looks like fucking shit.
Bravo id
>>335733667
They don't, stop lying and play Doom 3 instead of memeing.
>>335733761
see you later pete hines
>>335733217
lol!!! nicely memed my good sir
>>335731117
Updated
>>335733581
TO THIS.
>>335733620
my bad, anon, that article doesn't talk about SLI. However I KNOW that Nvidia released an official hotfix for the beta that adds SLI support. As for AA, videos of the Doom beta on PC will show the AA option in the menu. The article I mentioned is a good anyway though.
>>335733820
That's not a contrarian opinion at all, anon.
Grew up on Doom so here are my impressions:
What I like so far:
Gun sounds/animation/visuals (exception of them being too fucking huge in size)
The pinky demon requiring some kind of strategy instead of just shooting at it
map UI is nice
dying animation doesnt force you to wait in order to continue
What I don't like:
upgrading weapons... why?
Music is..... ehhhh
Achievements/challenges are so pointless
BFG oneshotting a Red Baron... wat...
Looks slow compared to the old Dooms
Monsters aren't aggressive enough. The only reason the dude died was because he was fucking around and got surrounded by demons (Maybe UV would 'fix' it)
Doesnt seem like any projectile-based demons - that's where some challenge came from the old dooms is maneuvering around them while getting hit by hitscan chain machinegun nigs
Shit I'm hoping wont happen:
Maps turning into wave based areas, it wasn't common for Doom and if anything it's mainly used as a trap (I have no idea if this was an actual level that the demo would be on)
HOL UP
This game follows Painkiller's design and makes you clear out enemies in a room or arena before allowing you to proceed?
>>335733850
how is that wrong
go ahead and explain it to me
>>335724657
/v/ is desperate for this game to fail. It justifies the shitposting and contrarian view.
Here is a protip; there is a game out there that deserves to be shitposted. I will be utterly amazed if even one anon can say what game I'm talking about.
Prove me wrong.
>>335733992
Yeah
Why does Bethesda shill so much here? First that forced Todd Howard meme now this.
>>335733914
>>335734027
Shadow Warrior 2?
I mean that game looks nothing like the original unlike Doom 4.
>>335734145
That's a male right? Better be a male.
>>335734118
Better question
Why is the word shill not an auto ban?
Nobody who has ever seriously called someone a shill has ever contributed anything worth a shit.
>>335734170
No, it's not that.
Any other guesses?
>>335734002
There are lots of parts where you're in temples, shrines, cities, whatever. Also they didn't even get a chance, how do you know they wouldn't have made the levels DOOM like? Big arenas are just a iconic part of Serious Sam.
>>335734193
Archvile sounds and looks like woman.
THE BFG IS NOT A PANIC BUTTON WEAPON
YOU'RE NOT RESTRICT TO USE IT ONLY WHEN ON LOW HEALTH
>>335734290
Overwatch
>>335734290
Overwatch? Depends on if you think ActiBlizz is worse than Bethesda I guess.
>>335734110
lmao
Guess I can totally ignore the game from now on then.
>>335734145
wheres the rest of it
>>335734313
That's the new Godzilla
>>335734027
There are several games that legitimately deserved to be shitposted. You're going to have to be more specific.
>>335734313
kek
>>335734027
Fuck off, this is the biggest butchery of a beloved franchise since Fallout, no wonder people here are upset about this being shit. Fallout 3 turned out fine in the end as a TES game with guns, but it dropped everything that made the series recognizable and overall just took a big shit on it's lore. Difference is, there was a working framework beneath that (taken from TES) but in case of D44m there's nothing.
>>335734145
no thank you
>>335734308
It's not the archvile, it's a new enemy called Harvester(?), a.k.a. Archmom
>>335734485
Doom 3 already killed Doom. It can only either stay dead or breathe life into the franchise. This is objective fact.
>>335734485
How is it not like doom? go ahead i want to hear this.
>>335734598
Doom 3 didn't kill doom.
With tha logic Quake II also killed Quake.
>>335734345
>>335734379
>>335734459
No, I'm not a fan of Overwatch as I don't like cartoon graphics but that's just opinion.
I'll give a clue. It had a unbelievably bad beta. Amazingly, I did not see a single thread of it on /v/ which suggests to me that /v/ only touches popular games.
Wonder if anyone has ever cosplayed as a mancubus. Don't want to see it tho.
It's certainly within some gamers ranges.
Hey Bethesda shills, how much do you make per hour?
>>335734697
Battleborn
>>335734697
mirrors edge?
>>335734485
hurr ur just contrarian mountain dewmritos rewls!!
>>335734681
Actually Quake 3 killed quake.
But you were probably too young and you don't remember shitstorms over the lack of singleplayer and about how slow quake 3 is compared to previous games.
>>335734626
>QTE deaths
Already dropped
>>335734778
About 3 fiddy
>>335734274
Because it's not your hugbox
Keep applying for janitorial duties.
>>335734859
Bet you love brutal doom though.
>>335734859
completely optional
also even romero liked brutal doom, which had them as well.
>>335734857
>Quake 3
>slow compared to 2
>>335734793
>>335734826
No, none of these games either. Think outside the box of a upcoming game but something that few people on /v/ have heard of.
>>335734145
> wait over a decade for quality lewds of original fluffy bubblebutt baron
> get nothing worth a fap
> HDoom is developed
> think "finally at least a single porn mod"
> want to cry when I see it's all just animefaces
> doom4 is developed
> doom4 isn't even released
> your pic is already of higher quality than anything the originals have gotten
if you're reading this and you've got a boner for popular stuff like mlp, know how god damn lucky you are. People like me are the 3rd world of masturbation.
>>335734997
Lost Reavers?
>>335734778
base rate $8/hr, minimum 20 posts/hr. unique IP replies to my posts add 5 cents each. i don't do OP work yet because i've only been on for a few weeks
>>335734982
It is slow compared to Quake 1.
Stupid millenial.
>>335734978
>even romero liked brutal doom
>>335734932
its not about a hug box, you literally contribute nothing. Not even some criticism to bounce off of, just a void, like your life.
Since so many of you are unhappy about Doom 4 tell me your perfect doom game?
>>335735087
No, not that but that game does look really shit to be honest.
>>335735101
>getting paid for literal (You)'s
fuck I can use a second job! Here's 5 cents anon.
>>335734857
>Quake 3 slow compared to previous games
No, I don't remember that. I remember everyone creating a shitstorm because Quake 2 was slower than the first one with a shit RL, though.
>>335735102
but you said compared to the previous games which includes 2
3 is fairly close to 1
>>335734978
They shouldn't be there in the first place, and all romero said about BD is that it's funny.
>>335734978
Buying this trash is optional too?
>>335735108
Yes he did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUU7_BthBWM
>1:08:50
>>335735273
it is
now fuck off
>>335735062
I still think HDoom would have been better if they made Doomguy a girl and kept the normal demons.
>>335735273
Fucking yout mom is obligatory
>>335735203
Fallout 4
>>335735347
Fuck off you pathetic faggot.
>>335735203
DOOM 2 with a single jump, freelook, more weapons, more enemies, and maybe more power ups.
Ok /v/, from what we have seen, what do you think has to be modded in/out?
>chainsaw makes ammo leak out of enemies
fuck that shit, chainsaw should not be instakill fuel2ammo converter.
Needs mod to return normal chainsaw functionality (ok, make it use fuel, so that it has to be refuelled from time to time)
Also I expect community made maps with way more open areas.
Making more than 5 enemies appear on screen could also benefit the game.
>>335735205
Homefront: Revolution?
>>335735484
How about Doom 2 with good levels?
>>335735139
There is nothing worth discussing about the game you / they are shilling. Bethesda isn't a developer doing anything interesting since Morrowind.
>>335729223
You realize the devs themselves mistook the original Berserk for being timed? If anything it lasting an entire map was probably a glitch they didn't bother fixing.
>>335735347
man I'd be better if doomguy was a shota
>>335735503
>community made maps
Those run off the multiplayer engine, so you're limited to 2 weapons and can't have any of the SP upgrades available.
>>335735503
>mods
Anon I...
>>335735512
Well done. Correct.
This game's beta was utterly shit. I mean, it's the first game in my entire life that I actually uninstalled and I have never done that before.
>>335730097
He also had to reallocate every upgrade point and had absolutely nothing but the weapons and items, as well as regain the Codex entries.
It seems more like they did an off-screen chapter select thing.
>>335735062
>want monstrous, spiky and sexy muscle imp
>get red haired brown anime ladies
its not fucking fair
The current state of id is kind of like when GNR was just Axl. Actually probably worse.
That said Doom 4 single player looks cool. Multi was a lame mix of Quake 3, COD, and Halo.
>>335735203
Serious Sam 3
>>335735746
That's a shame, the footage I'd seen looked like it had some potential.
>>335735320
>"I liked Brutal DOOM, it's was awesome. The QTE deaths was the best of the game." - John Romero
You fucking wish nigger.
>>335735697
>implying community won't find a way to hack the shit out of this game
>Game
>Game 2
>Game 3
>GAME
>>335735880
I never said that he said that. Nice strawman faggot.
>>335736025
They said in the stream that they want this to be people's first Doom game.
>>335725701
Do we have a full list of returning demon baddies? Is the Spider Mastermind finally going to make its return after being absent from Doom64 and all of Doom3?
>>335735203
Brutal Doom HD with more variety of enemies and more complicated movesets, just to fully utilize modern hitboxes, jumps and vertical aim.
> inb4 I get brutal memed
>>335732876
>serious shilling
alright
>>335735746
> it's the first game in my entire life that I actually uninstalled and I have never done that before.
>I actually uninstalled and I have never done that before.
>I have never done that before.
Okay slim, sure you havent.
>>335736194
I've heard Spider Mastermind was in the files people picked over.
>>335736025
Game
Ultimate Game
Game II
Master levels for Game II
Final Game
Game 64
Game III
Game III: Subtitle
Game III ____ Edition
GAME
>>335736173
I hope you're joking
>>335726159
It was shown twice towards the end, it works like doom 3 with the tendrils.
>>335736194
I think the only ones we haven't seen yet are the Spider Mastermind and Arachnotrons. Even the Icon of Sin is referenced in Snapmap.
>>335736283
Are there any other fairly modern FPSs with neat weapons like this?
>>335736415
Game RPG
Game 2 RPG
Game Resurrection
Game RoguelikeGame: The Boardgame
>>335736480
He is quotemining. They did say though that they want to try to appeal to both bittervets as well as babbynewbs. So yeah, you could say it means they want people to play this game first, but not nearly with the same implications.
>>335736415
>>335736025
Why is that important?
Are you one of those autists that get annoyed when the sides of movie boxes look different even though they are part of the same series?
I never thought i'd say that but get a fucking life.
>>335736728
Calm down aspie, we are just poking fun at the naming conventions of DOOM. You should go outside more often.
>>335736342
>>335736567
nice, Icon of Sin is unexpected. Any brand new originals like what Doom 3 did?
>>335736723
>People will say its better than new Doom.
>grew up playing a shit ton of doom 2 since it was what I had
>annoyed by the god awful marketing of nudoom
>multiplayer beta was SHIT, especially in a world where that UT alpha exists
>yet I actually really like this style of FPS, aka FEAR/half life/bulletstorm kind of shit, more than doom or serious sam
>gameplay looks decent
not preordering but still
>>335736845
Not off the top of my head. Just a variant of the Cyberdemon and Mancubus.
>>335736728
Reboots that are just the name of the first game are dumb, calm down.
>>335736918
>>335736592
Bulletstorm?
>>335735558
Doom 2 has better levels than 1 desu.
>>335736671
Just like X-Com.
>>335736958
But it is.
>>335736958
>implying it isn't
laffin'
>>335736958
>short as fuck
>doesn't give you any buffs for doing it
wow serious sam is better even when they put finisher shit in
>>335737294
Look, I fucking love SS, and I could shill for it all day, but the new DOOM does look better.
It has some actual level design, not just "Flat desert plane #74".
>>335737294
looks boring with dated 2002 gameplay and lacks polish
>>335737294
Serious Sam games are terrible. They may be less terrible than Doom ends up being, but that's nothing to be proud of. I'd rather play that shitty Devil Daggers game than suffer through another Serious Sam.
>>335728083
i though they didn't have jaws
>>335737164
>>335737294
The only difference between this webm and doom 2016 is bigger level and egypt setting
>>335737541
>Gameplay is shit but level design is good
>Better than the opposite
>>335737614
>muh grafix
Yeah I see who Bethesda is trying to sell Doom to.
>>335737541
>It has some actual level design, not just "Flat desert plane #74".
Because SS focuses on spawning large armies of enemies on the map for you to kill. Doom focuses more on just clearing room after room of enemies.
>>335737710
You clearly never played the SS series.
>>335737674
Yeah, well, you know that's just like, your opinion, man.
>>335737768
It has nothing to do with graphics.
It's just the same fucking game i've played 14 years ago.
Actually Serious Sam 2 was good, at least it had some variety and vehicles in it.
But not this. It was fun when it was new but it has not aged well at all in terms of gameplay mechanics.
>>335737768
But the gameplay looks better too.
Gameplay and level design go hand in hand.
In fact, if anything, good level design can save relatively mediocre gameplay.
I guess it's just a case of preference, but I prefer the more detailed, explorable arenas shown here in DOOM over SS's flat planes with a secret 10 miles out by a palm tree in the middle of assfuck nowhere that you have to trek for.
>>335737614
>dated 2002 gameplay
What did he mean by this
>>335738074
He means it doesn't hold his hand like modern shooters.
this reminds me more of Painkiller then Doom
but ill stillPirateit
>>335737937
I played all SS games and i will say that new Doom is better.
>>335726481
It took me years to notice, but the midsection isn't an intentional armor design, it was ripped off, in the cover you can even see the gashes in his armor.
>>335738172
>The only difference between this webm and doom 2016 is bigger level and egypt setting
I doubt it.
Post yfwthe final boss is actual VEGAAnd he has Doomguy's agility which he learned from him during the whole game
>>335736918
>Wheatley
>>335738172
You must have enjoyed them since you played through all of them, and the new DOOM isn't even out yet.
>>335738265
>SS1 Oh look kleer horde
>SS2 Cartoon bullshit
>SS3 CoD parody
Shadow warrior 2 when
>>335737048
what a shitty webm
>>335738738 meant for >>335738268
>>335736592
bulletstorm?
>>335738910
Its called First Encounter but who fucking cares.
>>335738127
It's funny because Serious Sam games require zero handholding by design. They're incredibly brainless and simplistic.
>>335738931
I just meant neat weapons in general
>>335739386
Vanquish
>>335739386Borderlands.
>>335727736
Fore me, at least, good level design are those levels that feel good to navitage in, don't feel like they drag for too long, encourages exploring and rewards the player for doing so, where backtracking don't feel like a chore, and are built in a way where more skilled players can just fly past them with ease.
>>335729223
In all honesty I'm shocked that they even have Berserk in New Doom and for that alone I'm happy.
This is Modern Video Game cancer in a nut shell.
Fuck Doom 4.
Fuck off shills.
>>335741126
But it's just like doom 3 with more action and less horror which is good.
>>335737825
I'd even save this pic if it wasn't for the font choice
>>335741219
No, it is not. It is fucking Halo cancer. Fuck off shill cuck.
>>335741126
This is neo /v/ cancer in a nut shell.
Fuck off faggot.
Fuck off shitposters.
>>335741415
you seem upset
>>335741219
>But it's just like doom 3 with more action and less horror which is good.
Nah, I liked Doom 3 actually going the survival horror route, especially when it came out in 2004.
I'm just saying, Doom 3 playing up the horror side wasn't a bad move and I enjoyed it. But this Doom is actively trying to be Doom 1 and 2 and just failing at it.
I like that it has the more complex level design, but it seems like they're falling short on enemy count and threat they have, as well as Doomguy being too slow and taking too many cues from Halo and COD.
>>335741520
>>335741584
These are the cancer cells killing video games.
Drink it in boys.
>>335737825
Nice one m8
>>335741639
>Enemy count and threat level
They said he was playing on Hurt Me Plenty. There are 3 difficulty levels above that.
>>335741639
Halo is good actually.
It's a very polished FPS series, the only issue is that Halo 2 and 3 are short and Halo 1 had too much backtracking.
>>335741928
>modern shooter
>difficulty level increasing anything but health and damage
Don't get your hopes up.
Doom is going to became another generic shooter after this release, and raped from all identity. Fuck this gay earth, and fuck bethesda.
>>335742175
It was always a generic first person shooter, because it was the first one.
>>335742330
No, because it was the first it had it's own identity. That is how it works. Now it is taking modern cancer like progression leveling. A fucking sin. Cancerous filler.
>>335739386
tell us what do you mean by "neat weapons"
>>335742514
>sci-fi setting with space marine killing alien monsters with a shotgun
>not generic
>>335742012
So is a lot of COD and Battlefield, but that doesn't mean I want to see their calling cards in Doom.
>>335742731
>sci-fi setting with space marine killing alien monsters with a shotgun
Did you only play Doom 3?
>>335742731
(You) silly Halo baby :3
>>335742735
Well you can go and play 1993 game right now then, what's the problem, no fun allowed for everyone else?
>>335742945
>no fun allowed for everyone else?
Leveling progression shooters are not fun, just grinder filler cancer CoD baby.
>>335742945
You can also play COD and Halo, so what, why does COD and Halo's motifs and calling cards have to be squeezed in to sully the identity of Doom?
Because that's Doom's biggest problem with it's later games, it's got no sense of self.
And I want other people to have fun, which I think would be better with a first rate Doom game than a second rate Halo clone chasing it's coattails because of insecurity.
>>335743076
This is only yours opinion. Like it or not CoD is the most popular FPS series to the date, which means everyone likes it and you are just a minority.
Also it could have been worse, just look at shadow warrior 2.
>>335743240
>I want other people to have fun
>but only in the ways I see fit
>>335742514
The only things that gave it its "itentity" was what it DIDN'T have.
>>335730460
I'm happy they did this rather than waste time on multiplayer, they can focus on singleplayer.
>>335737294
The music surely is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5JqLwyI70w
This game is already better than Doom 3 so everything is alright
Cant wait to play it on Ultra Violence
>>335743598
He's clearly not saying that at all. He's fine with that style of game, but Doom is not that kind of game. They're marketing it as a return to form, but it's a genericized, watered down FPS with a superficial resemblance to the rest of the series. It's not what fans of the series are looking for, but it has more mass appeal, I guess.
>>335743985
Me too!!!
RIP AND TEAR!
>>335724657
I played Doom and Quake a lot when I was younger, but I want to buy one of them on GoG now that there's a sale and I want a way to easily download one of these in the near future. Which is more worth playing periodically?
>>335738742
now
https://youtu.be/PIikukPw9f4
>>335744000
You can't make a game that plays like a 1990's shooter in 2016.
It will flop, have bad sales, get poor reviews, and whole studio will get closed.
You can't do that unless you are some indie developer and ID Software is not an indie developer.
>>335743598
Yeah, fuck the fans of the series right. COD and Halo are the only ways you can have fun, so that's why Doom is just a rehashed slightly more bloody Halo clone.
>>335742158
Increasing damage output of enemies would only be a big problem in games where there are hitscan enemies. There don't appear to be any in this game. If they take more damage though, that would really fucking suck.
>>335744149
>game is more of a Doom game than 3 ever was
>people are shills for liking it
/v/ is too retarded this evening
>>335744627
Yeah I remember the wave based encouters, wimpy shotgun, low FOV and WUBWUBWUB soundtrack in the old Doom, FUCK HATERS >:(
>>335744627
I didn't like 3 either, but at least they didn't try to pretend it was like the first two.
>19:26
>"Nothin' like exploding barrels... so fun!"
Holy fuck, that guy is trying WAY too hard to sound like Romero.
>>335744404
Just because I think Doomguy should move at 60 mph and that there should be 50 enemies on the screen doesn't mean I have to have no mouselook, no jumping, digitized sprites, and make it fit onto floppies.
I mean, is there something about bodies staying that's so tied to the 90s that we can't do it today?
Like the game's fucked if people see a body that doesn't disappear into the ether because people will stare at it and if it doesn't disappear they'll go "That's so fucking 90s, dropped."
>>335744829
It also didn't shit on its legacy by just using the name DOOM.
>>335744483
>Halo clone
outside of grenade button and melee, how? No weapon limit, no regen health, faster walk speed, no shit pew pew alien bullshit, automap, powerups, armor pickups, no vehicles.
>>335744812
>thinking theres anything wrong with wub wub
>>335744379
>7:17
>mfw this game has parries
>>335744829
Who cares it plays exactly like 2004-2005 shooter, like half-life 2 and quake 4.
When the last time we had a singleplayer game with 8 guns, health armor and ammo pickups?
>>335745139
That's what I'm saying, these fags don't even know what they're complaining about they're just pissed it has Bethesda on the cover.
>>335744928
>no shit pew pew alien bullshit
Except there's plenty of pew pew alien shit. Like, guys just walking around that shoot little green blobs at you.
The movement feels quite similar, it has a floatiness to it that's very similar to Halo that I had with the 15-20 hours in the betas. A lot of the visual designs for the armor and weapons are right from that sort of "If we color a nerf gun in olive green it's a sci fi weapon" school of thought.
Even a lot of the enemy design doesn't exactly suggest hell or satanism. They could easily be just a slightly more bloody and skeletal take on the Flood.
>>335744379
>10:33
Christ on a bike it's beautiful
>>335745139
>Who cares it plays exactly like 2004-2005 shooter, like half-life 2
Doom 3 didn't play like HL2 you retard.
>>335744379
This looks so fucking good compared to this D44M abortion.
>>335745363
bruh most of the designs are just revamped shit from the original doom, there is literally nothing in there reminiscent of the flood, stop talking shit
>inb4 muh zombies look a little gross tho
>>335745139
>>335745139
>When the last time we had a singleplayer game with 8 guns, health armor and ammo pickups?
Did you miss all of the serious sam and shadow warrior shilling in this thread? Also Hard reset, Rise of the triad andWrack.
>>335743434
It is not opinion, but fact that as many fans of shooters hate progression in games. It offers nothing but artificial gratificaton for playing hours upon hours on the same fucking maps. To unlock perks for no other reason than to make you harder to kill with less skill.
>>335724657
>Danny "vidya butts cause rape" O'Dwyer
>>335744379
this looks like a lot fun
>>335743598
You dumb fucks already have games with that progression cancer injected into it. Doom does not need it, nor want it.
I bought Doom upon initial launch.
I think this looks fun to try at the very least. Absolutely going to turn most of the extra shit off in the menu and start at a much higher difficulty, but still...
>>335745535
Babies don't know any better because they are shills talking out of their ass.
If the haste pickup movement speed was the default speed this really wouldn't be so bad, but it's not.
>>335744379
>Shadow Warrior 2
>ADS
>Sprint
Fucking CoD clone, dropped.
This thread is just convincing me that it is a "Day 1 Pirate".
Bethesda won't get my money for raping Doom.
>>335741639
>I liked Doom 3
Dumbfuck
>>335745027
>>335745604
>>335745423
Now this is when i can say for sure that this thread is full of children.
Literally.
People who complain about doom 4 here were not born yet when the first game came out and only version they did play is some sourceport with brutal doom mod and they did so in 2014 or 2015.
And this is what they compare the new game to, inside their heads whenever they see it.
Sure it might be different people but 3 different posters actually unironically think that shadow warrior 2 is good and they don't see the major issue with it.
They just don't because they can't because they don't know what the original game was like. They also don't know what Doom was like in 90s, and that it's not the same thing as it's modern sourceports.
That's all.
>>335746624
some hot assumptions up in that post
>>335746624
D44M is cancer pander trash. Stay salty.
>>335745983
This. The difficulty should broadly ramp up to challenge the player to grow in skill as they play. Matching stuff up with player durability upgrades is commonly used to create the illusion of mastery.
That's not to say progression in itself is always bad; acquiring increasingly powerful weapons can form part of a long term learning curve/broadening of tactical scope, the thing that gives away the shitty version of progression is when you're only ever using the most recent weapons and never swapping back to the first few you got for certain situations.
>>335746624
I played the original MS-DOS Shadow Warrior and even though it's not exactly what I'd have wanted from a sequel, I can clearly see some actual effort put into the game. It tries something different and doesn't try to appeal EVERYONE with a fake as fuck smile like this ''doom'' tries to.
>>335746624
If anything, Brutal Doom and an unfaithful source ports with jumping and shit is more like Doom 4 than the original DOS program ever was. You're just wrong.
>>335746624
>3 different posters
>>335746859
Nah it's just someone shilling for shadow warrior reboot sequel that looks nothing like shadow warrior game.
At the same time he's complaining about doom not being doom.
Where is logic in that?
>>335747064
Maybe they didn't play the original Shadow Warrior. It's nowhere near as popular as Doom was and is.
>>335724657
I watched some of the stream from Gamespot. It looks pretty good in my opinion.
>>335724657
not sure about the multiplayer, but this looks quite sweet desu
>>335724657
This looks GREAT!
Looking forward to pre-order.
>>335734145
Thanks Gabe.
>>335733983
>upgrading weapons... why?
why not? more is always better when it comes to weapons.
watching the stream and listening to the music, there's a big improvement in it. the hell section music aint that bad
What doom wads do you faggots recommend?
>>335748672
/pol/ wad.
>>335748672
chex
>>335726557
It's a Mancubus you mongrel
>>335748672
Heretic
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