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NEW NIOH DEMO THREAD


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Cont >>335682735
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1st for artificial difficulty
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>>335706138
>japanese game
>playing blond foreigner MC killing japanese citizens
>"mark of the conqueror"

Jap confirmed for cucks
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this game is an unpolished gem

with the right tweaks at performance and QoL changes it can become GOTY.
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Tips from the previous thread

>Ki Blast: When you attack watch your Ki bar. It'll start to fill up white quite fast, if you hit R1(Stance button) during this time you'll INSTANTLY get that amount of Ki back. If you get it perfect i.e. get all your stamina you used back, you do a Ki blast which gets rid of the dark flame patches that Yokia/Oni put down(Standing in these patches will severely reduce Ki recovery).

>(Note this is for Katanas, figure the other weapon stances out on your own. Most of it is shared)
>High Stance: Slow attacks, high damage, high Ki usage, only get one roll
>Medium Stance: Balanced speed, damage, and Ki usage, able to parry, get 2 dodges (quick step into roll).
>Low stance: Low damage and Ki usage, fast attacks, dodges have the same effect as Ki blast (yes you can get stamina back by dodging), get 2 dodges.

>SWITCH FUCKING STANCES AND WEAPONS WHEN NEEDED. YES EVEN IN MID COMBAT IT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR.

>When enemies are out of Ki (Their bar is red). Hitting them will make them stumble, after that press triangle and you'll do a special attack for major damage. Katanas have this immediately, while Spears and (I think) Axes have to unlock this.

>L1 IS FUCKING GUARD, USE IT. HOLY SHIT.
>X IS DODGE, USE THAT TOO. But be aware that dodging has very little (if any) invincibility frames. YES YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DODGE/GET OUT OF THE WAY OF ATTACKS RATHER THAN ABUSE I-FRAMES LIKE SOULS.

>When you get hit, guard recovers faster than dodge. So mash/hold L1(guard) instead of mashing X(dodge).

>Back attacks deal MAJOR damage(this applies to you too). Keep your back protected, while trying to hit enemies in the back.

>Donate your excess shit to the shrine. You can get items such as: Elixers, glue, and whetstones. You can even bulk donate shit under certain rarities that you set.
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Reposting

I played for an hour earlier. As somebody who's finished all the Soul's games so far I waned to like this.

Plenty of good ideas (stances for example) but the combat just doesn't click with me. Maybe it's down to horrible weapon drops or something but I couldn't get into this and instead just tried to run through it to have a look. Is there no way to buy weapons??
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Xth for this is not Dark Souls and git gud
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>tfw Nioh

No, really. The game is rad though.
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>>335706112
So he loses his electricity when he's out of stamina? Good to know. Guess I'll go mid/high to burn out his stamina.
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>>335706301

>You can obtain new moves when you level up. Check your menu it'll have and exclamation mark on it.

>Hell just check out YOUR FUCKING MENU. YES ALL THE TABS, READ WHAT THEY FUCKING DO.

>The circle in the top left is your guardian. When it's full you can press Triangle+Circle to summon a living weapon. During this time you do more damage and have a special move tied to triangle(you an charge this). You're health and Ki is replaced by another continuously depleting bar. Using Ki and getting hit will deplete this bar faster. YOU CANNOT DIE WHILE IN THIS MODE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN CHARGE IN THINKING YOU'RE HOT SHIT.

>If you don't have a guardian in the top left. This is most likely because you died. Retrieving your shit, dying again, or recalling it at a shrine(you will lose your stuff that it was protecting) will get your guardian back.
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>>335706138
Based William.
Cuts down nips.
Cuts down oni.
Saves little green men.
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>>335706138
>Watch a stream
>Guy constantly complaining how it's ripping off Dark Souls
>Complain that the character is white
>Mic picking up the sound of him constantly mashing buttons when fighting
>Complain that there aren't enough checkpoints
>Chat agreeing with him all the way
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What stance do you use?
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>>335706417
does he regularly stream soulsbournes?
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And fill this after playing.

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_us
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>>335706323
Nothing so far.

the game does mention a blacksmith, so there is that.
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>>335706262
KILL WHITEY!! #BLM
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>>335706407
Isn't William regarded as a legend among nips and generally liked by Japanese historians though?
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Because it will be asked here is how Ki Burst works. Look at the ki/stamina bar. This makes the game A LOT easier. Also level up and unlock skills.
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>>335706138
Does anyone else get a little motion sick while playing this? I don't know if it's from the unsteady framerate or the fast panning of the right camera stick, but I couldn't play for more than half an hour before I had to stop. I can't think of the last time I ever got motion sick playing a game, it certainly never happened when playing any of the souls games or bloodborne.
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>>335706528
Yes, the people complaining about a white MC are literally retarded and the rest of their opinions should be regarded as such.
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>>335706528
Well yeah, the modern civilized ones.
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NIOH OFFICIAL SURVEY
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_us
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>>335706578
no, never got motion sick over it.
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It will be hilarious if crapcom try to revive onimusha by making it a dark soul clone.
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>>335706531
So a perfect Ki Burst is when the red bar is completely replaced by the white bar?
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>>335706578

Did you change it to Action Mode in the title menu? It downgrades the graphics but get stead framerates.

Between every time you boot up the game the setting will go back to graphics mode by default so you have to set it up again.
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>>335706476

Once I hefted the axe and skilled my first point in it I use high stance almost exclusively.

Square square triangle is great for killing crawlies, staight triangle just knocks jobbers on their asses, and square square dodge is just massive damage while retaining your mobility.

Honestly, I wish you had some kind of movement penalty for being in high stance. It seems to be just way better than the other two if only because the sheer damage output you can toss around.
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>>335706578
It happens while playing BB, set the game to action, not movie.
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>>335706505
Most of the time, yes. It's either that or some other new RPG that's come out recently.
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tbf, i hope we get a Yasuke game later on.
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>>335706476
Mid usually its my go to stance. If its a one on one fight I usually go with high.
Low is shit tbqh and can't stagger anything worth a damn.
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>>335706751

Yeah. Think of it like the Gears of War reload system but you get the stamina back instead of ammo and can keep attacking. The white bar is the amount of stamina you will get back if you press R1. If you do not press it the white bar disappears and the stamina starts filling up slowly instead.
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>>335706810
that pretty much explains all his complaints about the game
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Why the fuck is the protagonist a blue eyed white guy?
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>>335706673
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(sailor)

>he became a key advisor to the shogun Tokugawa Ieyasu.
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>>335706350
did you see >>335706540
?
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where do you get the Raikiri?
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>game is literally about a white man conquering japan

redpilled af
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Can someone post a screenshot of shirtless William?
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>>335706757
Didn't know Action Mode was a thing, lol. Thanks for the tip.
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>>335706323
Yeah, I agree. There's a really cool game hidden somewhere in there, but the devs certainly didn't find it. The difficulty is simply too bullshit to be fun for the most part. It needs tweaks that I doubt it will get with them planning for fall release. The combat stances really are cool, they just unfortunately got thrown in with too many other incompatible ideas that make the game frustrating and unfairly difficult. The loot system and item breakage don't work together, especially with how fast things deteriorate. And the Souls game structure is heavily at odds with the Ninja Gaiden style pace. Sounds fantastic on paper, but it leaves a lot to be desired in execution.
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>>335706990

No dude thats gay wtf.
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>>335706830
This.
>Third is all the foreigner samurai joining together
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>>335706904
see>>335706906

every thread
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this game is gonna be awful. this demo is awful.
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This game is one that I truly find difficult.
The fighting is satisfying, cutting heads off.
The swordplay is fun.
The wide array of skills is awesome
I like the shrine system.
This is an alpha demo but I have a feeling I'll be getting the full game
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>>335706476
Mid and high for katana, I've upgraded those skills a lot. And high for spear.
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>>335706990
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>Team Ninja and From Software have been always making hard games just because
>Suddenly this one game becomes popular and the new standard for the "if you don't beat this game you are not a TRUE gamer git gud xD" meme
>after four sequels people get the hang of it
>a game that gets a lot of elements from the Souls games appears, but makes enough changes to the combat so it feels new and challenging again
>le epic TRUE gamers shitting their pants with the difficulty and complaining about it
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>>335706476

High all day every day.
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>>335707037
I need to see if... uhh... the arms connect well to the rest of the body in the... 3D model... unlike in DaS.... yeah that.
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>>335706476
All of them. They are situational.
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>>335707173
Genuinely thought that was Geraldt at first sight haha.
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>>335706707
I hate to be the guy that brings it up, but
>no "other" option in the gender category
Feels good, man.
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>>335707190
I hate "git gud"
Like "yo man can you help me with this boss?"
"OMG GIT GUD SCRUUUUUB"
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>>335706830
He never did anything important.
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>>335707173
The other white-haired white guy, anon
Don't be racist
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Wheres my William x Geralt fanfiction
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>>335706248
THERE A PEOPLE LIKE THIS
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>>335707308

He looks identical when stepping out of the boat.
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>>335707096
git gud, dsp.

>>335706952
>>335707001
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>>335706248
Alot of those are valid criticism. The game has tons of artificial difficulty just like Dark Souls. Enemies that one shot you take plenty of hits to kill regardless of the fact they are just regular ass people.
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Samurai Geralt is a cute
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>>335707329
He was buddies with Oda Nobunaga.

Thats important enough to make a crazy game about japanese devils.
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>>335706906
I did mention he was based.
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>>335706476
High Stance + Spear + Square->Triangle = Easy Mode
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>>335706952
Beat the second boss
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>>335707469
>take plenty of hits to kill

You must be using the wrong stance.
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>>335707353
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Weird comment and not much to do with the game, but that survey was really well done and to the point.

Actually asked important questions about your experienced as opposed to unrelated bullshit.
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>>335707487
But Nobugana is the devil, Yasuke should be evil.
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How the fuck do you parry? I put a skill point into it but the timing is either impossible or it just doesn't work. I'm using the right stance according to the skill tree.
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>>335707469
wrong. enemies take 13 hits to kill you and die in 2 hits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaY0E4ySDbE proof and more proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNCP8ciKcLI
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>>335707704
>believing Tokugawa lies.

Anyway, Yasuke would be the perfect backdrop for a prequel of Nioh.

He comes during the Age of Warfare, gets to hang around the devil king, he was even at honnouji.
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>>335707639
The /other/ sexy, sword-wielding, white-haired white guy
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>>335707778
git gud, I got it to work on my 2nd try and I never parry in other games.
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>>335706707
>you can submit the survey multiple times

How can this even be trusted
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>>335707623
Never once have I killed an enemy with a single attack, even when attacking from behind, with a High Stance, fully charged triangle attack.
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>>335707904
>Using African voodoo magic to fight Oni and Youkai

Yes please
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I fucking despise souls games and I cannot stop playing this demo I'm enjoying myself so much
Explain this athiests.
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not that I'm great at the game, but.. https://youtu.be/48o-zYLabjM
I honestly think most people complaining are too used to souls games. There's much more stamina management in this by comparison but they give you the tools. It's a much more twitchy, in-depth version of the soulsborne style games.
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>>335706673
Nah, even back in his day he was respected.
Dude sailed all the way to Japan from England. Of the 100 crew members, he was one of the 9 to survive.
He was then wrongfully imprisoned and his cargo was stripped of him after being accused of piracy.
Then, the Shogun liked him so fucking much he freed him and put him to work as one of his right hands. The cannons he brought over with him and his general strategic knowledge of naval warfare was instrumental in the success of several battles.
He also really helped Japan prosper by facilitating trade routes to England and putting them on good terms with them.
He was given a new name, new wife, a plot of land, two swords and was the first firthy whitu~ samurai.

All in all the dude was a hard motherfucker. Japs loved him back then.
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>>335708079
but the video proves that its possible. you do 1600 dmg for parries and 1800 dmg for drop attacks. you probably have shit gear, the guy in the vid is low lvl too so you have no excuse but bad luck or using the wrong moves and not hitting in the back. Which does double dmg.
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>>335708157
you're a weeb.
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>>335708157

It's not a Souls game.

Atheists: 1 Shitposters: 0

Seriously the similarities make it good, but the differences are what make it unique and ultimately more enjoyable.
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>>335708079

I was lvl 8 in that webm. Leveling makes a big difference.
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>>335708157

its much closer to onimusha.
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>unsheathe kantana
>teleport behind you
>N-NANI??
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>>335708169
>William Anderson
triggered, to be honest
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This stance system is arguably the best melee combat system I have ever used. Its so god damn fun and simple
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>>335708219
There a good movie about this slick motherfucker?

I asked in the last thread but it died.
Pls rspond
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Question, how do I join a friend's session?
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>>335708741
shogun is loosely based on him
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I am hyped. I havent felt like this since Demon's Souls.
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>>335708604

The thing that makes it truly stand out is the enemies use it as well. So if you're observant you can tell which attacks they're going to use or at least planning to use. For trash mobs at least.

I also enjoy that it isn't rock-paper-scissors. They all have defined strengths and weaknesses and one isn't necessarily objectively better than the other two.
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>>335706138
Featuring David Beckham from the FIFAâ„¢ series
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>>335708518
No teleports, but the spear has a pretty cool flip.
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>mfw the revenant system

This motherfuckers behave like people. They bait me and everything.
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>>335708151
>Using African voodoo magic to fight Oni and Youkai
> voodoo magic

Afro souls when?
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>>335708905
Come on, you posted this only to make that joke.
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So am I supposed to specialize on a stance or a weapon? Should I use every stance depending on the enemy? I can't find a use for high stance right now
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>>335708354
Yeah this. It's almost literally like a tankless Onimusha. If team ninja can pull this game off then we won't need capcom.
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Can someone post the manual?
I cannot access my ps4 at the moment.
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>there is a magic stat but there is no magic

Bravo From.
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>>335709231
>Bravo From.

Why did that get me so bad
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A few problems I had with the demo

1. Lock on seems pretty meaningless if your attacks don't automatically aim toward the locked on target. There were so many times when I'd lock on and attack and swing right past the fucker. I just stopped using it; if I have to manually aim the swings each time regardless, why use it?

2. Weapon durability is meaningless, and there seems to be no way to recover it aside from grind stones. It also decays extremely quickly. This essentially meant I just ran past revenants and optional enemies because I didn't want to lose the sword I liked.

3. Some of the moves seem iffy to pull off. Grapple is one of them. It's supposed to be triangle against a ki drained opponent. But it seems to activate something like 50% of the time. I'll use triangle against them, do a stab, then the attack after that will be the grab. And sometimes it doesn't work at all. Against a revenant I drained his ki and then stabbed him three times with triangle and the grapple never activated. The parry system is similar. There are times when the timing seems super loose and generous, and there are times when I think I hit it just right and for some reason it doesn't work. It may be due to stances and which form of parry I'm using, but it doesn't say anywhere that, for instance, square parry only works with horizontal attacks, or whatever. The Iaito draw was like this too; its got a simple input but like 60% of the time I tried to do it, I just drew my sword, despite holding the inputs. I feel like its one of those "O slightly before r1" things, but again they don't tell you.

4. The stunlocking enemies can do on you is really annoying. I don't mind the fact that they can drain your health and kill you easily. Thats fine. But being comboed is annoying. I don't know, but some sort of ability to parry or dodge out of it would be nice, but it doesn't seem to exist.
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>>335709086
NIGGA IS THAT RAIN? FUCK I NEED TO PROGRESS THERE.
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>>335709184
>I can't find a use for high stance right now
Combo finisher. Also charge triangle combo, rather than the stupid kick. Use it to fight Oni, armored guys and bosses
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>>335709184

High stance tend to be for single targets while mid and low for groups. You have to be constantly changing.

Between did you know you can change combos in the menu?
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>>335709231
but there is magic of two different kinds and this is an alpha where lots of stuff is obviously still missing. Or was this an ebin double trole?
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>>335706138
>My name is William and my Surname starts with A.
>Because of this I have no choice to but to buy this game.

I'm so fucking glad I'm enjoying it.
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>>335708845
Someone answer plz
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>>335709446
Glad you're having fun William Applebee
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>>335709357
>It's supposed to be triangle against a ki drained opponent. But it seems to activate something like 50% of the time. I'll use triangle against them, do a stab, then the attack after that will be the grab. And sometimes it doesn't work at all.

You need to get the enemies into a drained, panting animation, just like when you ran out of stamina. To do this, when the enemy stamina is blinking red, you need to attack them 1 more time, and they'll go to the panting animation state. If you attack them twice they'll crumple and you can do the grapple stab when they're downed instead.

Oni and bosses work differently, when stamina runs out they can't be grappled, but they have no poise so you can chain your combo for free, take advantage of the ki pulse mechanic to string long combos
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>>335706138
My only issue is some of my inputs feel dropped or delayed sometimes but that might because its always online at the moment. I think the game would benefit heavily from a Souls buffer for inputs.

It might also just be awkwardly strict. I'll have times where i dodge twice or dodge then heal and swear i did it right after the dodge but might be hitting it just a frame too soon and buffer window would fix this.

All that being said first area killed me like 30-40 times and the boss 10-15 tries probably more like 10. This game will wake me up to the Ninja Gaiden player i used to be. Its definitely very set on good decision making. Its just alittle punishing at the start it feels for bad decisions. It feels very difficult to salvage a terrible situation at the start no matter how well you play.

I will agree with one thing being bs. My first death was the only death i learned nothing from. The dumb nigger with the axe clipped me and didn't even hit me in the back and i died instantly. That is alittle absurd that a normal enemy when at max life will kill you just because of a default weapon not even hitting you in the back.
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>>335709357
Cont.

I enjoyed the game and will probably pick it up when it releases, but there are a lot of things about it that didn't feel right, if that makes sense. Stuff in the systems that felt awkward or not terribly responsive. Ki pulse in particular seems a rather confusing introduction; because it essentially means you're gonna spend the entire game glancing up at your stamina bar or just memorizing the timing of the r1 press.

It seems superfluous, not sure why it exists.
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I like the game but they need to tone it down with the enemy mobs.

like, when you go up the winding path theres that mob that attacks you and unless you have a bow theres literally no way to pick them 1 at a time and if you get all of them, its easy to get rekt.

its neat though. My favorite mechanic by FAR is the bloodstains. whereas Dark Souls lets you see how the guy died, this game lets you fucking summon the dead warrior's ghost from the underworld to fight you holy shit
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>>335709184
High stance for single targets that won't punish you for low Ki.
Mid for groups general combat
Low for 2fast4u attacks and flashy staff moves and "teleports behind you" tier dodges.

There will be some give obviously.
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>>335706138
gotta catch em all
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>>335706248
I single enemies with shuriken.

Did any of these shittalkes even try this out? I like it very much.
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>First boss took me like 10 tries or alittle more
>First level took me a shit ton of deaths

Can't wait for Souls shitters to claim its only okay when their games do it. Even though the most i died in DaS3 was like 3 times to the harder bosses besides Nameless who only takes like 3 tries on most playthroughs now let alone the others who don't.

This game needs some polish of course its a alpha but fuck its rewarding.
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>>335709684
I think the problem was I had them ki drained but they hadn't entered that animation yet. Because their bars were blinking and they were clearly at zero ki, but they were still staggering, and hadn't had time to enter the animation.

Which seems a very odd thing to do in a fast paced fighter like this. A lot like DS2's stupid fall on ass parry animation.
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>>335708049
it can't.

they just do this to make us feel we have some agency on the development of the game, while in truth, we don't.
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I give up with the game.

I tried my best to learn everything but it just doesn't make click. The fighting is just way too woncky and no matter how much I try I just can't git gud. Especially the camera and the movement make it hard to me.
And the enemy tracking and rotation time (As in attacking in a different direction) are way too fast and hard to dodge. And as some already mentioned the game really doesn't explain much, but I guess that will be changed for the release. Another smaller nitpick is the infinite range enemies follow you. Plus some of the animations on the enemies, especially when they're running feels a bit off, but maybe that's just me.

I will give up with the demo for now and hope they improve the whole thing, because for now it's way too frustrating for me.
I tried to git gud but failed.

And yes the webm is from me
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>tfw ultra shitter but having fun anyway
>tfw can't git gud
>tfw completely goofed on skill allocation because I didn't know what the fuck in the beginning
>tfw only have until the fifth to beat it or no free DLC

The stress is getting to me.
Fucking boat Oni.
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>>335706707
Playable cute girl.
They better listen to me.
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MAN this demo is difficult. It's like they are trying a bit too hard up front to show that they can appeal to hardcore people, which they really don't have to given Team Ninjas track record.

It does feel very satisfying to overcome though, so I'm optimistic that it will be a good game
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>>335708542
I knew I got it wrong. Oh well. Got the intials right. It's hard remembering shit off the top of your head.
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>>335709871
How'd you get so many fire enchants? I found literally 1 in the first level.
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>>335709357
>>335709759
git gud.
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>>335709804
>like, when you go up the winding path theres that mob that attacks you and unless you have a bow theres literally no way to pick them 1 at a time and if you get all of them, its easy to get rekt.

I use stones to pull them. Seriously stones in this game are so useful. You can also walk slowly to the left and stealth pass them.
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>Dont level up
>Dont spec your character correctly
WOOOOOOOW FUCKING ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTy

Unlike dark souls, the rpg elements actually matter here
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>>335707782
Yeah, if you're armored up to the fucking max. People there are complaining about the early game where you start basically unarmored.
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>>335709924
I died fucking loads so I'm a little wary of getting the full game.
But I also really like the setting and unlike Soul I feel like I had a better grasp on direct, like in Souls games I always get super lost, but I was fine for the most part in Nioh.
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>>335710050
you can cast it yourself, its a skill.
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>>335709357
I haven't played yet but i heard you can recover blocking faster than you can recover dodging when being attacked. Did you try to block instead of rolling out of the way at all?
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>>335709967
>Runs to the right instead of backwards
git gud.
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>>335706138
>tfw you figure out the way to beat Nue
>still get killed a lot
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>>335709967
Yeah you're right, you should stop playing and never play again. Why would you dodge left or right KNOWING there's 2 fucking walls there that will limit your movement? You were doing ok at the start but you let him close you in.
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>>335709967
>Another smaller nitpick is the infinite range enemies follow you

This is one of the things that bothered me the most. I fucked up and want to retreat to take them 1 by 1 but these guys will follow you non stop.
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>>335710179
>there is progression in an action rpg
>you level up and become stronger
WOW stop the presses. I started a 2nd char today and beat the first boss on my first try.
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>>335709086
How did you manage to execute this? I keep trying but I never successfully teleported behind the enemy.
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>>335709967
The game is more item based then people are trying right now. Save your bombs for shit like this it rapes the oni. They don't respawn also so you could grind your spirit and just wipe them out.

Game is hard bro but don't think you gotta play it like PERFECT PARRIES NO ITEMS IM A GOD! Just like Ninja Gaiden this game encourages more usage of your overall items and such then a game like DMC.
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>>335710225
Literally the problem.
For some reason my brain stops working when I play the game.

Well this and fighting with lock on feels so damn weird. I just can't get used to it
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>>335710294
wrong. I tried it out today, I baited 6 enemies into following me and 5 turned back before even reaching the 3rd shrine in the 1st level. I started in the middle of the burning village.
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>>335709231
You can have magic in the alpha. I use ninja stars to draw enemies towards me and water scroll to fuck up bitch ass onis
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>>335710176
RPG elements mattered in dark souls
Your main character is the weapon, you definitely have to level it up or you get fucked.
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>>335709967

>0:07

Holy shit anon whats up with that ki? That dodge took it all. That only happens when you are overweight.
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>>335710331
Low stance nigga

Gets you your cuhrazy shit
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>>335710473
Yeah, you only need to level up the weapon, your character stats barely make a difference, people enter this game thinking it will be like darksouls and dont level up, proceed to get their shit kicked in
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>>335710221
Holy shit i completely forgot about skill points and haven't been using them im fucking trash.

Also if you aren't a Sharkbro you fags should kill yourselves.
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>>335710343
I will try it later in some days. I just wish there was somekind of training room or something similar because I'm still not used of that fighting system.

>>335710512
Isn't the maximal amount you can carry without problem 70%?
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I would buy it if it wasn't SO FUCKING GENERIC. Literally nothing on this game feels original. I'm not complaining about it being aripoff of Dark Souls, I'm talking about stuff like the motherfucking protagonist being a generic white blonde guy that looks like Geralt or any other protagonist ever. Yeah, fuck you, I know the whole hur le inspired in real character thing. The game sells itself as dark but the whole 'you can see all these points just like a MMO' gimmick just makes it feel even more generic.

Also, I played games a thousand times harder than the hardest Souls game and I can see that this is obviously artifficial difficulty. Stop with the memes trying to justify this shit.
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>>335709967
>that armor and stamina
Stay below 70%
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Gomenasai /v/, my name is William-sama.

I’m a 36 year old British weeaboo (Japanophile for you gaijins)

I train with my Katana every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak Japanese fluently, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Japanese history and their bushido code, which I follow 100%

When I get my Japanese visa, I am moving to Owari province to attend a prestigious Samurai School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an advisor for Tokugawa Ieyasu or even a Daimyo!

I own several kimonos, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Japan, so I can fit in easier. I bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in Japan!
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>>335710223
The major problem with that is that blocking can take enormous amounts of ki, so its very risky to block because you can get exhausted and combo'd.

>>335710075
See, that isn't a valid criticism because I'm not having problems progressing, I'm having problems using systems because they're poorly explained. You can get away with that in Dark souls because dark souls combat mechanics are very simple. But in this demo major gameplay aspects are left completely unexplained or poorly explained. Ki pulse, for instance, was explained in this thread far better than it is in game. And it's a major part of the combat system.
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>>335710694
William was Dutch, senpai.
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How the hell do you do the Up+X finishers on low stance? I keep dodging
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>>335710613
shark is OP. The firefox is pretty gud too though. You will be able to level them up in the final game and there will be probably shitloads of them. cannot wait.
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>>335709979
You got this man just take it slow.
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>>335710512
He dodged twice.
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>>335710725
Shit.
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>>335709967
First of all get out of high stance, it will do you no good for fast opponents, especially ones that can tank your hits.

Can't you see that you run out of Ki after 1 hit and a dodge?
Go into mid stance, maybe try a spear so you got a little more range.

Its a jump not a teleport, you gotta be in low stance with a staff and I find it works best if you press x and forward in the first half of your combo animation.

I've got an thought with this.
See how you flash as you jump? those are iframes, so this move isn't just to get behind your enemy this is just a vertical dodge, that happens to open up some attack avenues.
Something to help if backed in a corner or are mid combo and won't have time to dodge.
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>>335710626
>Isn't the maximal amount you can carry without problem 70%?
No. Even dark souls you want to stay below 70% or you get the fat roll animation. I try to hover around 65%
>>335710725
William was born in Kent England fampai, he's britbong.
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>>335710512
>fatshaming
I mean, saying anon is a terrible player is one thing, but saying he's terrible because he's fat is over the line.
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>>335710723
>blocking takes enourmous amounts of ki.
ok son, git gud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq9SyYRZY3k you just suck at the game apparently.
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>>335710694
>Everything is weeb/neckbeard

Shitposters are the worst
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>>335709979
Just start again, i fucked my first run and the second went way smoother, i actually leveled up and specced into katana only, been having so much fun
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At least the loading times are lightning fast, which is nice considering how much I'm dying all the time
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>>335710678
One reason its artificial difficulty give me one. Just because you die fast doesn't make it so. Everything is avoidable to the player and good decisions can conquer all without luck. Yes its alittle fucking harsh especially at the start to a cruel extent but learn to use terms properly you fucking retard.

Artificial difficulty is only when something is guaranteed to be out of the players control to a extent and force retries. Nothing forces retries in this game its just fucking hard.
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>>335708845
>>335709527
you don't

it may be by chance if he happens to summon you.
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>>335710923
Try doing that in the intro area with a new character to the ax men. They can completely drain you in one hit.

Again, people are complaining about the early game because they never got to the late.
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>>335710626
>Isn't the maximal amount you can carry without problem 70%?

The more weight you have the more stamina you will take when dodging. There are colors to indicate this. Blue>Green>Yellow>Red.

>>335710790

This how much stamina dodging consumes when you are in blue weight. I dodged twice too and it didnt take that much. 70% and up will fuck you up.
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If I download the demo now, will I still be able to play it after they remove it from the store?
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>>335710694
Good luck Davido-Kun!
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>>335710761
You sure you level them up?
From the demo it looks like you just unlock more of their effects if you have the right stats, like weapons and armor.
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>>335711083
>lvl 1 character supposed to block lvl 15 oni in a game which has diablo/borderlands tier amounts of gear with + KI.
How about dodging instead? they are slow as fuck.
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>>335711014
The weapon durability is artificial difficulty because it adds nothing to the game but a meaningless restriction that does not enhance gameplay.
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>>335710683
Fucking this
I tried going full heavy armor and then realized I'm an idiot and switched to normal armor
Even with 10 stamina a single slash from medium takes all my ki with full heavy. It might be better for late to endgame when you can have jacked up stamina builds and be around 50% armor weight and tank like hell.
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>>335710613
Fox master race.
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>>335711108
Try dodging in high stance.
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>>335711110
its always online only.

>>335711152
it literally says lvl 1 on the spirit animal screen m8. use your eyes.
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>>335710772
>>335710949
I can dodge everything pretty reliably when I see it coming. It's just that he busts out 360 spins out of nowhere so everytime I go in for a hit he fucks me and I run out of healing items.
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>>335711237
Surprised you could name the one thing that annoys me alot. Honestly i dunno why shit doesn't auto repair at the shrine. Weapon durability has always been a shit mechanic. The only game i've ever seen do it right was Diablo 2 and that is just because ethereal weapons need to work that way because of their own mechanic.
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>>335710050
Do you read well?

It under the level skill menu
You are able to level those up a total of 3 times
Giving you a maximum of 3 talismans
Once you buy the upgrade be sure to equip the upgrade as well
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HOLY SHIT I FINALLY BEAT NUE
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>>335710883
the second part of this was meany for >>335710331
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>>335711228
I was responding to a guy who said to try blocking. The point was that blocking can be dangerous against certain enemies because strong attacks drain your stamina quickly.

Jesus I can see the dark souls level cancerous defense force building for this already.
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>>335707020
Sounds like a bunch of bull.

This game is not as high fantasy as Dark Souls, thats why you can't have magic everywhere, making your life easier.

If this game does good, the prequel will be a lot better, believe me. I crave for Onimusha Type games, don't take this from me, anons! DONT DO IT!
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>>335706262
Hey, if an entire race wants me to subjugate them and rape me with their women, who am I to say no?
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I died 7 times against that Demon in the beach Shack and then I went and killed the boss on the boat first try.
I don't know what to make of this game, but I think I like it.
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>>335711398
wait for one combo to end hit once or twice and do adouble backflip. rinse and repeat. I bet a little kid could do it if he was born in another era where kids are not braindead.
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>>335711271
Don't make me post fucking shark girls furfag.
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>>335711237
Maybe you should save up on good weapon for killing oni and bosses

>the HP mechanics is an artificial difficulty that adds nothibg to the gameplay, the game ends when your hp ran out
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>>335711398
Bait his frontal attack, then get behind and attack, retreat quickly because hes gonna spin, repeat
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>>335710723
You can acquire skills that reduce how much ki is used when blocking

Try to read before complaining
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>>335710003
Mah fucking nigger.

Gracia is best girl.
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>>335706138
Wait, why is the witcher in a game called NIoh?
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>>335711457
But what you have said is wrong, blocking works against the first boss as well, just need to be smart about it. Dodging is always the best option anyways but if you can block 3 full combos from an oni then its totally viable.
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>>335711237

I like it. Reminds me of the weap durability bug on DaS PC. Always had to bring multiple weapons and save the best weapons for hard encounters.
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is there something after nue?
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>>335711430
This is how i felt when i beat the fucking boat nigger.
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So I played it, for like an hour, and at first I was a bit mixed. I kept getting my ass kicked mostly because I couldn't get the flow of things and it just felt all around different. After maybe 30-40 minutes however, I got it down and it seemed pretty fun. I like the feel in terms of the setting, killing things is satisfying, and it has this creepy vibe to it. Definitely considering picking it up.

There are a few things I'm a bit mixed about.
Mostly the online aspect. I know the whole pvp situation is optional, but does that change if you summon a partner? I remember seeing in a thread that bosses get a massive health buff if you do choose to summon, but are there any other drawbacks?
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My elixirs stopped appearing in my inventory. Do you not get 3 of them everytime you spawn? Is there some rule to it? Am I seriously going to have to farm for them now?
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>mfw cooping with another shark bro
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>>335711797
no you can just replay it and do coop etc. its just a demo, most would have ended after the first oni.
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>>335711658
Geralt embraced his inner weeb and traveled to Japan.
His boat sunk off the coast of glorious Nippon and he has amnesia again.
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I think the game is challenging, but not actually difficult. Enemies have all these shitty fucking grabs. Moves dont connect. Enemies can dodge one perfect frame timing. The enemies seem to have lots of stamina for god like combos that will fuck your ass. The black circles that stop your stamina regen are bullshit, easy to get rid of but extremely annoying. The dodge mechanics kind of suck. They either work fine, or dont at all. Enemies have to much "poise" and you seem to have none.

The list goes on.

If they balance the game more it would be great. But it just isnt hard now, just very frustrating.

I made it to the 2nd boss and I just dont give a shit about trying to kill him because I just find the game so... stupid.
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>>335711824
I did coop 8 times and did not notice any health buff to bosses actually. There is no pvp in the demo and what exactly is supposed to change when you do coop? Try being less vague.
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>Mark of the Conqueror
free dlc?
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This game will get destroyed by journalist over the difficulty. Journos are casual as fuck.
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>>335712004
git gud
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>>335706248
you've lived long enough to see souls casuals fan base
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I really hope they add ninja fighting styles and unarmed combat
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>>335712079

Free DLC. Is probably some extra weapons.
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>>335711604
But when you make it so weapons break this easily it effectively makes players not want to do side paths or optional stuff because they don't want to lose the weapons they're familiar with.

Really all they need to do is let you spend XP to repair it at a shrine just like Dark souls did. Otherwise there's no reason to have it.

>>335711621
What part of "First part of the game" do you not understand? We're talking about the very opening levels and enemies because that tends to be what people are complaining about. Once you get some levels and better gear it's not so bad but in those first areas, you don't have that shit yet. And a lot of the people on forums screaming bullshit are the ones that died like 4 times to the first or second guys and just gave up.
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>>335712047
The red summon spots aren't pvp? I'm assuming they just summon some player to fight then?

In terms of change, I mean does the difficulty increase in some way if you do co-op.
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so what is this? a souls clone?
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>>335712004
you are wrong, you can stunlock any enemy easily. you can counter black circles with your own magic. enemies run out of stamina after a few hits. I can provide video proof if you do not believe this. Enemies also have almost no poise unless they are heavies.
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>>335712004
>Its challenging but not difficult because i dislike it

Fuck off its hard even if you don't like it. Not everyone likes every kind of challenge. Not that i'm disagreeing with the games polish but your philosophy on difficulty is retarded.

>>335712079
It wasn't free you earned it nigger.
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How long until the fourth Shrine? Seems like it's been forever since the third one.
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>>335706138
Is this the new meme souls?
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>>335712307

Fourth shrine is on the second level after the boat boss.
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>>335712235
its AI controlled player characters. If you summon one and quickly move away they stand their for 1 minute and then simply disappear.

I did not notice any change in difficulty in coop. Can solo nue myself in a two man coop with one spirit animal.
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How much of this is still based on the Akira Kurosawa script?
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>>335712385
Alright, that's certainly good to know. I guess I'll have to check it out next time I play.
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>>335712307
there is a shortcut back to the third after the burning village on the beach.
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What exactly does living weapon do? They tell you how to perform it but nothing about what it is.
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YES, FINALLY, I beat Ogre9000. I got the dlc, do I get anything else if I keep going? Not that it matters, I'm gonna play the shit outta this until the deadline anyway.
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>>335711825
pls respond
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I'm pleasantly surprised with the game played like 4-5 hours straight last night, I kinda hate the way its impossible to outrun certain enemies and those little tongue fuckers piss me the fuck off, I really enjoy the whole idea of the different stances and the pros and cons each provide
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>>335711108
>The more weight you have the more stamina you will take when dodging

Oh

Alright I will keep that in mind
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>>335712223
I know what you're saying

It's the typical "gamer"
If the game doesn't hold their hand or show them the way they give up
"Because it's not fun"


The days of self discovery are over.

I'm sick of every game opening with a 10-30 minute tutorial showing me every ins and out of the game.

Like holy shit if I move the left stick my character will move....no way!!
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When the hell is Nioh even releasing? Also does changing the game from movie to action mode make a huge difference? Are we talking a jump from 30fps to 60fps in exchange for shittier resolution? I didn't notice any framrate issues in movie mode except for far off enemies having choppy movements.
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>>335712483
how about trying it out yourself you mong? its just a special mode where you wreck shit and have unlimited stamina unless you get hit. can kill nue with it in 1 minute.
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>>335706476

Axe high stance

It's how I've always played games of this type. Gimme something that's slow but does an assload of damage at once, then I run about like an asshole for five minutes looking for an opening.
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So is Mark of the Conqueror going to only be available to people who beat the demo or will plebs be able to buy it for 2 bucks in the future?
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How did you lads beat the boat boss? I've tried hugging him from behind and slicing him up but it takes fucking forever to reduce his health and he can 2 shot or even 1 shot me with next to no effort
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>>335712532
you have to farm them, no shop in the demo, its just an alpha.

>>335712518
you only get one dlc out of this alpha. you get fun for beating the 2nd level.
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>>335712632
Knowing Koei its gonna be on sale later
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just beat the nue, only took about 5 tries
it seemed almost impossible at first but turned out not to be that hard
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>>335706248
What the fuck is wrong with the souls fans? No fan base is so fast with "artificial difficulty". Even with Salt & Sanctuary there was this shit.
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>>335712384

Fuck

Thanks
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>>335712682
hit hit hit, dodge dodge..wait for his combo to end...rinse and repeat. stay on light weight gear.
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>>335712798

Dark Souls went mainstream and attracted all the retards.
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>>335711563
Do it
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>>335712825
see >>335712479
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>>335712798
PC souls fans.

As someone who played all the souls games I think it's because they're marketed as hard when they're really not. Souls games kill you a lot easier than other games, sure, but death generally means very little and you can retry as much as you want.

hell, ni-oh's thing with weapon durability is more punishing because you can't repair them easily and the damage holds over across deaths.
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Just started playing but what the fuck. Everything kills you in one-two hits. Going up agaisnt the first 3 enemies a hundred times just to learn the controls and get a feel for the combat is not my idea of fun.

Call me a souls casual or whatever.
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>>335711237
they want dieabla loots
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>>335712926
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Mid stance has good defense
High Stance has really high burst damage
But what's low stance good for? It's attacks aren't really that much faster than mid stance and seem to do a lot less damage. I have unlocked a whole lot in low stance other than that forward+X offensive dodge followup. Is it supposed to be about being really mobile? If it is then IDK if I'm just horrible with the stance or what but I feel like it's overall just a shittier mid stance.
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>>335712934

Must have missed it. Thanks for the heads up.
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>>335712682
You can just walk around him for most of his attacks. Get in a few hits with high stance on his back then jump the fuck out before he does his spin move. Rinse and repeat until the second phase.

For the second phase hes gonna walk to his balls to pick them up and throw them at you. If you go up right next to him while hes throwing it he can't hit you, which allows you to get some hits in. Its really not that hard of a boss.
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>>335713028
In low you get sick dodges and teleports to behind enemies
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>>335713028
*haven't unlock a whole lot in the low stance skill tree
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>>335706514
>http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_us
Thank you shill san, i rated it pretty good and typed many comments. I hope they read them i like it very much so far. Soulsbabbies need to shut up.
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>>335713019
You can have that without your weapons breaking after 5-10 enemies.
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>>335712980

You'll get there. You just got to treat it like Classicvanias and shit where getting hit ever is an absolute no-no. The regular dudes are pretty slow and dumb.
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>>335713028
I usually use it for those crawling enemies seeing as how its closer to the ground? But I think its faster than the other stances not 100% sure tho
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>>335713081
>do first phase without getting hit
>boss goes to pick up ball
>run behind him
>he throws forward
>ball phases through his back and nails me


bravo
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>>335713204

On spear it sure as shit is.
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>>335713227
just time it right
it's extremely easy to dodge the balls
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>>335713227

The boss is unfinished and glitchy for sure. I heard you can use block for those balls. See if that works?
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>>335713204
For the crawling zombies i just use high stance since it mostly uses big vertical slashes
Also should mention that I only really use Katana
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>>335706138
???
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>>335713120
Low stance has super low cost dodges with iframes.
Loking back at some gameplay I think low will be better in the final game with more moves for it unlocked.

I'm about to go back and see how viable I can make a mostly low stance with some mid build.
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>>335713168
alpha, weapon drops are frequent when you gitdecent, makes sense with random stats
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>>335708741
There is a nice documentary. I saw it last year on TV by accident after Last Samurai was on.
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Where is the last Kodama on level 2?

And how the hell do I beat Nue? My first two attempts I almost killed him, but now I just keep dying in 1 hit from his lightning.
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>>335713370
fucksake that was fast 10/10
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>soul fans
>constantly memeing about the difficulty of the Souls games and how they are the hardest games ever/nostalgia-fagging about the SNES days
>Geraldo of Nioh strolls in
>starts slapping people around for a bit before strolling out again
>ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY
>BROKEN GAME
>BAD GAME DESIGN
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>>335713370
Hoh looks like that alien babies
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>>335713416
free dodges
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>>335708905
I also felt very much like playing DeS. How come? It still feels so fresh, while being a Souls clone.

I think i just really like the atmosphere.
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>>335713370
>JUST DO IT
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>>335713370

HoH sounds like a fun game
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>>335713370

HoH, easy.

TWO KAT, looks built for speed, has hands for a dick

NioiN looks sturdier but has no pauldrons, and having your arms fused into some kind of spike is probably not a really good weapon.
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>>335713370

>HooH beat NiiiN in a match and cut off his hands as trophies. NiiN is back for revenge with new steel pointy gauntlets as weapons.
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>>335713439
Yeah, but why do it? You're gonna have a backpack of 50 weapons you don't want and 1 weapon you like that you can never use because it will break and you can't fix it.

The fuck is the fun in that?
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>>335713471
if it's the long range lightning bolts, all you need to do is walk away and they wont hit you
it's always the same amount so just count them
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>>335713370
Folded 1000 times extremely sharp conjoined wrists man is the protag for me.
Nioin is the superior game.
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>>335711398

You can block his spin. It's how I did it.
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>>335713471
how is anyone supposed to know which kodama you haven't found yet you tard? One is behind a box, one is behind a statue, one is behind the ninja house.

for nue: do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6NEPWELCus
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>>335713617
First yes you can fix the weapon you like. Second you don't need the cutting edge katana to kill peasant mobs.
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>>335713617
because diablo and borderlands have millions of fans and its a proven concept. there will be a blacksmith and stores in the final game, this is just an alpha without those things.
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>>335713370
Hoh going for that double iai

Literally unstopable
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Gonna try and give a tip for anyone trying to beat Nue. This involves staying in mid stance with the Katana. First make sure when he does he 4 time lightning strike attack to move near the wooden things with bells so they get destroyed and you have more room to maneuver. Then whenever he does his lightning breath attack run left toward the side of his head and do a three hit square combo on his head, this will burn out his stamina bar. Keep doing the square three hit combo + R1 to refill your Ki gauge until you can activate your living weapon.

While your spirit is attacking him for a second switch to heavy stance and just wail away on him with square until the gauge almost runs out, switch back to mid and move away. You can get through at least 1/4 to 1/3 of his health this way each time. Even if you don't have the living weapon up still do the same thing as that still does solid damage. Hopefully this helps.
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>>335713370
Left is always OP.
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>>335713813
you can kill him in one spirit animal though m8. see >>335713687
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>>335713687
That guy is way faster than me. I use an axe
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Nice Dark Souls clone, senpaitachi. Really like the rolling and UI in this one!
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Ah fuck. Playing this game for 5 minutes has fucked over my entire sense of accomplishment in playing the Souls series and Bloodborne.

I's like I'm 8 again and trying to get past this.
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>>335713989
that guy is me, switch to a katana or do the same with your axe. instead of doing 1-3 hits do 1-2 only and you will be doing same dmg.
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So do you think its just the 3 weapon types for the full game or will there be more?
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>>335710891
>born
>this indicates your genes
Yeah, you must be murrican, i guess?
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>>335713920
I never used shark, but from what I've read shark is OP. I used the bird.
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>>335714137
there is already 6 in the demo you dork. There will probably be 5+ main types=10 subtypes in the full game more or less.
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>>335714137
If I had to guess theres probably also going to be kanabou, daggers and a matchlock gun
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DSP plays Nioh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-5LqnJw2ao
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>>335706970
How is that redpill? Its a succesfull and racially pure country. If anything the MC should be jewish
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i really wish the game would have multiplayer. having 1v1 duels with these super cool mechanics would be the best.

feels bad man
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>>335711398
Always stay in front and then dodge. Hug his balls. I did it after the third try and it was a great feeling.
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>>335714137
There's a movelist menu for shuriken and talismans.
I hope you can get a bigass nardo shuriken.
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>>335714213
What do you mean 6?
You aren't doing something like classing hammers and axes as different weapons are you?

>>335714313
I was thinking daggers as well, or at least shorter blades.
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>locked on to an enemy
>moving backward while not blocking turns my back to them even if I'm locked on
>take twice the damage from the back
That's fucking stupid, controls would be perfectly fine if it wasn't for this
guess that's what demos are for
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>>335714328
Oh man.
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>>335714328
it will be just like the /v/ threads
>wtf this game is bullshit i dead in one hit couldnt do anything
>woooow how was i supposed to know stamina doesnt increase your ki
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>>335714328
I dont have to watch this to know hes going to be a little baby bitch about it
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>>335714328

oh boy
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This will become a huge cult game on /v/ and be loved for a couple of years, having a steady supply of threads. This will be a new STALKER, Demon's Souls, Ys, Morrowind etc.

It'll get a multi platform sequel in 2019 that'll dumb everything down and become popular with reddit. Nioh 3 in 2020 will be very popular and /v/ will start to shit on the entire series and threads like this will be long forgotten about.
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>>335711515
The demon tought you how to take on the boss. I died to the demon behind in the cave where you find the Harakiri blade like 9 times. That nigger and his fucking anti stamina curses. Two fields at the same time are impossible in that little area. IMPOSSIBLE!
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>>335714458
I'm talking about main weapons, I thought that was obvious.
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>>335714328
Getting my popcorn.
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>>335714328

>Nioh with deathcounter

oh boy
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>>335714196
>born in england
>is fucking english
>fuck genes
>fuck them
>fuck you
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>>335714196
You're not seriously this dense, are you?
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>>335714328

>Giving this faggot views
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>>335714607
Maybe. I've seen an embarrassing amount of crying on here.

If some people are beating the demo without that much trouble, and you can't get past the beach then does this mean the demo is broken or that you're just not great at the game.

If you're a fucking child it means the game is broken, if you're self aware at all it just means you need to learn the game better.
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>>335714473
> no lock
>no ready stance
like taking it in the rear?
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>>335714108
ok I'll keep trying
thanks fro the tips
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>>335713028
It's fucking fast i fought a red phantom that used it exclusively like 4 times till i killed him. He just used his fast spam all the time, and with high stance you cant ever hit him when close, you have to time your attacks from afar precisely.

Low Stance can be bothersome.
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What level is everyone?

43 here. Heartana build full light gear A agility with 3 +damage to lightning pieces.

Been having fun soloing Nues for casuls too scared to get close to him. Managed to stunlock him one time with an axe user cycling our combos so he never recovers.
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Only 3 weapon types is a little disappointing, did they learn anything from NG3
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/181161-nioh/73652896

Good guide, the one thing GameFAQs is good for.
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>Nioh
>Dark Souls with Ninja-Gaiden difficulty
>you fucked up
>not because you ran midst enemies but because drunken-ass guy hit you with an axe to the empty vacuum of critical spot that caused insta-death
>do everything again, every fucking thing being like fusing a bomb

This shit is good, it's not fun, but it's good. I'm 100% sure enemies are getting nerfed.
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>>335713370
>Hoh
>two katanas
>small frame
>carries the hands of his enemies as trophies

>Niiin
>arms welded into a mallet
>strong as fuck
>stylin too

Tough choice
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>>335713497
You don't seem to understand the mindset of an average soulstard.
They want to play a "tough b-but fair!" game without actually having to be challenged.
Pretty much the reason why the community is so shit. Once people stumble across they have troubles steamrolling through, they start booing at it under the misconception that everything they've done so far already required immense amounts of tactical thinking and that the game is just being unfair at this point.
>>335714328
>it took him 50+ tries to beat Rabbi Sulyvahnovich and Champ Gundyr
>he's playing nioh now
Dear lord.
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>>335714328
I'M IN, I HEAR SNORTING I AM LAFFING ALREADY

*SNORT* HHAHAHAHAHA

that fucking faggot, start playing already!
Someone in the chat tell him to make it action mode.
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>>335714510
DSP is basically /v/ personified.
>Really likes video games
>Life revolves around video games
>Doesn't pay attention to instructions
>Bad at video games
>Still loves video games unconditionally
>And also, props to DSP for calling out a lot of anti-consumer practices, just like /v/
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I am really having a fuckload of fun.

I've died like 30 times, and I'm still having fun.
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>>335706138
Game is pure fucking trash.Monster Hunter and Dark Souls manages to be hard without adding bullshit mechanics and clunky ass gameplay.
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>>335715850
No, he's a fucking tool and sent FROM actual hatemail over twitter just because Cool Ranch Smelter pushed his shit in.
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>>335714328
ITS STARTING. Stop shilling paetron you fat fuck
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>Multiple enemies attacking at a time
>Enemies attack fast and sometimes don't take any knockback
Awesome, Fighting one enemy is too easy and fighting multiple is just bullshit kiting.
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How can you level up your Spirit Animals? Or is that just not in the game yet, like the "Getting used to it" Meter of the weapons?
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>>335716116
Switch your stances bro
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>>335716030
blue smelter wasnt hard, but it was bullshit just having a different colored version of a boss in the dlc
not to mention three regular npcs as a boss
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>>335716030
WOOOOW
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>>335716040
He calls it a business but relies on donations. I thought that makes you a charity. Businesses are supposed to bring in revenue
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>>335715785

Dark Souls isn't hard if you know what to do.

Nioh isn't hard if you know what to do.

Thing is that what happens when you do a mistake. Nioh is basically a 3D Japanese rpg minesweeper. You randomly go and tactic your steps, when you fuck up then you die and start from 0 all over again.
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>>335716174
There's a spirit stat
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How am I supposed to kill the first boss on the boat? He has way too much health. I can get him to about 50% but then I lose because I'm out of healing items.
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>>335714350

underrated
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>>335716018
>clunky
NIgga I'm flipping around and shit.
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>>335716116
if you're fighting more than 2 enemies at once, you are doing it wrong
enemies with axes or spears have hyper armor so they dont stagger while attacking
wait until the swing before going in
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>>335716249
Oh so you level them up through that?
Did not bother with that Stat, concentraded on Heart for muh Katana scaling.
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>>335716262
Hug his front and only dodge those, they are easier.
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>>335716220
Blue smelter had different attack timings.
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Just finished the demo... Its fucking trash.

At least Dark Souls is challenging yet fair. Nioh goes out of its way to make sure you never have a fair shake at all.
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>>335716417
i guess i didnt notice because i killed him on the first try
he felt easier than the regular smelter
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>>335714328

>Spent an entire hour begging for money
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>>335716262
Get used to his attack patterns. I died to him a lot, too, but then I got used to him.
In his first phase you should just stay glued to his ass.
Also you can actually block a lot of his stuff.
Go nuts if you are able to cut of his horns.
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I fucking hate games where I have to pick attributes. I always fuck up somewhere. Just when I got used to the DaS sustem, too.
Can anyone give me some pro tips on what does what and which attributes are essential?
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>>335716326
Controls wise the game is very clunky. It can be fixed as this is only an alpha.
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How can I get summoned
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>>335716683
You choose matchmaking on a level from the mission select screen.
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get used to the game mechanics before being a bitch about it
ds felt weird at first too
not everygame will play the same
adapt
fucking millenials
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>>335716612
Just look what scales with your weapon the best and concentrate on that.
Also more Life and Ki is never wrong.
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>>335716518

Gee Eye Tee

Gee You Dee
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>>335716612
I don't get why these games never have fucking respecs
Fuck PoE
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>>335716542
Yeah they shuffled his combos and made certain attacks delayed to throw-off people. It is kind of a lazy rehash, but he's completely optional.
DaS1 also had 2 sanct guardians but it was fine.
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>>335716612
heart is pretty much the best stat, it increases your ki (stamina bar) and your damage
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>>335716359
>Kiting enemies carefully because the combat system is an unbalanced piece of shit.
Looks like this game is just a mediocre souls clone after all.Enjoy your game
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>>335716782
DUDE IT ISN'T EXACTLY LIKE MY ROLLING GAME SO IT'S SHIT LMAO
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>>335716612
>>335716795
Both DaS2 and DaS3 have respecs though.
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>>335716857
thanks, i will
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Does this game autosave? I just beat the first demon thing and got to the shrine right after it. Is it safe for me to quit the same, or do I have to beat the entire demo in one sitting?
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>>335716906
I'm talking about stat heavy games in general.
I thought we already decided Nioh isn't soulslike.
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>>335706138
Menus were a mess, way too many useless shit. Uninstalled after 5 mins.
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>>335716857

My loading screen right now reads:

>To take on many enemies at once is a fool's strategy for a quick death. The clever warrior chooses his opponents wisely.
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>>335714328
Its actually starting now for those who want to laugh
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>>335714328

Oh god here we go.
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>>335716984
Yeah, you're fine.
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>>335716857

>baaaah is different

Kill yourself.
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>>335716116

Switch stances, get CC skills. Spear has an awesome 360 spin.
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Is the boat boss the end of the demo or does it continue?
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>>335717548

There is a whole new level after that with another even harder boss. Nobody here has beat that electric dog fucker.
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>>335716984

Yes, it autosaves.
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Do you need psn+ to play it online? There are a lot of bloodstains without it.
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GG DSP
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Axe bandit for the win!
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>>335717005
>I thought we already decided Nioh isn't soulslike.

The fuck

It really, really is. That doesn't make it bad or anything, but it's very clearly inspired by Souls.

>>335717085
>>335717230

>Giving this faggot views

At least don't shit up this thread with it
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>>335717637
>Nobody here has beat that electric dog fucker.
Speak for yourself myman.
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Why is there even a mini-map? It doesn't show you fuck all.
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>>335717230
Can't wait for the cancer.
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Sword enemies have low poise while axe enemies have insane poison. I like this a lot. It changes approach in combat.
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>>335717637
I and many other people have. He's super cheesable. You get an electric Katana if you beat him
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>>335717824

poise''
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>>335717780
If you take the bird spirit enemies show up on it.
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>>335717637
Oh shit really?

This fucking demo is longer than a lot of games. I'm really loving this game
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>>335715850
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>>335717417
It's funny how many times I've seen this exact thing
An obscureish new game comes out or a demo of it comes out and it's mediocre, People rush to defend it and talk about how great it is because they had a preconceived notion of how it was going to be and 75% of the thread's that get posted is those "fans" having to defend their game from all criticism
But I'm not angry, I'm disappointed, I wanted another Onimusha with maybe a bit of Souls influence and what we got was a straight Souls Clone with terrible design decisions
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>>335716518
>mook AI dumb as bricks
>most mooks can be 1-hit with a headshot from a bow
>fire shuriken=free damage
>game has a super mode where you temporarily become invincible and don't expend any stamina
>replenishing elemental buffs
>first boss only has three attacks each phase, two avoidable by dodging past his left flank, third can be blocked
>second boss gets stunlocked to death if you hug his right shoulder and use combo finishers, all his moves are absurdly easy to avoid other than the 2-hit claw swipe, which is only slightly harder to avoid
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>>335717937
That's the shark, bird lowers evasion ki cost and boosts item drop rate for humans and yokai.
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>>335717824

None of the enemies in the game have poise at all.

You're talking about hyperarmor, which only applies to certain enemies during certain attacks.
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>>335717859
if you beat him a second time you get a spear.
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>>335706138
this guy looks like the dood from The witcher
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>>335718081
>tripfag with bad opinions

Well, what a shock. The game is pretty good, and you would have to be an actual retard to think it's a souls clone given how different combat is.
>>
Why the fuck are people responding to the tripfag?
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Combat in this game is seriously so much better than Souls.

If Team Ninja knows one thing still, it's making hitting stuff feel really fucking good. Great animations and sound effects with nice gory finishers.
>>
why does the game run like absolute shit even on action mode
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What the game needs to do is either massively tone down the damage of the first few mooks or make a proper tutorial with easier enemies
The combat looks pretty good but it takes time to figure out and thats just not feasible when enemies 2-3 hit kill you right away
Yeah sure you can just practice against the first guy and die 50 times in the process but it'd be better if there was a more natural way of learning
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>>335718081

>When people like thing I don't like it's only buyers remorse

>Even if they didn't buy it
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>>335718365
your ps4 is dying
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>>335718081

It doesn't play like Onimusha or Souls and thats not a bad thing. Game is its own thing and you dont want to adapt.
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>>335706138
>we want the Witcher and Souls audience
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So are the devs incompetent or something? Even the movie mode setting looks like shit the PS4 should be able to 60fps without a problem. Going for the action mode makes it look like a PS3 title.
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>>335718081
>It's funny how many times I've seen this exact thing
Yes, fags like yourself getting their shit pushed in then bawling about 'artificial difficulty' is rather common in these types of threads.
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>>335718462

That's the fucking best way of learning.

That dude's a chump, you just can't run in mashing. He's slow, predictable, and his AI is terrible. He will swing at empty air if you're backing away from him. If you die to him you've lost fucking nothing because you haven't had time to get anything.

What more fucking handholding do you fucking want?
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>>335706138
I'm watching DSP for the first time. is he genuinely retarded? Why is he speaking like that and how he is so fucking bad at this game.
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>DSP doesn't know how to regen stamina
Oh this is going to be great.
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>>335718489

It really plays like souls

It plays nothing like Onimusha

>>335718491

It plays nothing like the Witcher
>>
Game is pretty great.
Equipment degradation could use a bit of a nerf though. It's a bit too high. Maybe nerf weapon drops along with it.

I like having the mechanic, but its just too fast. You barely get to use a fancy new weapon at all before you need to repair it, and whetstones are initially rare.

The worst is that you can invest skills into certain weapons, then end up unable to use them because they broke.

Thats my only real complaint. The dodge feels a bit worse than BB, but better than Dark Souls 2 and older.

Reverent seem impossible to parry though holy shit. Can do it perfect on every other NPC every time, but I can never get it to work on a Reverent.
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>>335718527

It was literally a PS3 game ported to PS4.
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>>335718491
Wasn't MC designed way before witcher games became a think?
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Fuck Yeah! I finally beat Nue

This game is incredible, and I'm definitely gonna get it when it releases
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>>335718624
He is one of the most retarded gamers alive and is genuinely a shit person.
>>
is it just me or is the lock-on dogshit in this game

i mean even more dogshit than dks3
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>>335718736

PS: Game gets so much better once you get the Ki Pulse system. I thought it required a stance chance, but once I realize it was just tapping R1 at the perfect time after a combo, the game really opened up.
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>>335718624
He's already doing better than 99% of redditors
>>
I recommend using Bow & Arrow.

Headshots are pretty much instant kill.
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Are they seriously saying this game is in fucking alpha? Doesn't it come out this year?

If this is an alpha demo then I'm not a virgin.
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>>335718616
30 minutes tutorial, game pausing every moment so an annoying NPC can explain what's happening every time a new enemy type shows up, flashing buttons and other indicators so he can know what button to press to awesome.
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>>335718491
Ni-Oh is older than all those games.
>>
It seems weird that you always play as the same guy, when it has Dark Souls style coop summons.
Won't everyone look like the same dude? That seems a bit weird.
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>>335718726

>It really plays like souls

Combat approach is entirely different. In souls you attack and move away to regain stamina. It is slow and defensive. In this game you are supposed to use ki burst as much as possible to stay in the fight. Is more similar to Bloodborne with the aggressive and parry intensive playstyle.
>>
I thought Americans liked to brag about how they were better at the English language than us. I can't understand this DSP faggot at all.
>>
so why do katanas scale with body
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>>335718969

The alpha have a lot of cool looking armors and you can fashion it up hard. I do hope they add more customization for William though.
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>>335706248
These are legitimate criticism.

Crying "soulsbaby!" is not a valid argument for why when a person starts a game a glowing red thing on the ground summons a demon that instantly attacks you during it's particle animation and kills you. It's bad design.

The enemies do way too much damage. If the first enemy hits you, you are pretty much dead. Then very quickly you have to fight 5 at once during an ambush, and at this point the game still hasn't even explained it's mechanics to you.
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>>335718736
only time I noticed equipment degradation was messing around after I beat the demo, up until then I was constantly replacing my gear with better stuff before it got below half-way

and the equip screen suggests that in the full game, the more you use a weapon the better it gets, so a sword you've hit rank five affinity with probably degrades much slower than a sword you just picked up
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>>335719084
Because each Katana was hand made by a Blacksmith for it's owner. A samurai's soul is his sword.
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>>335719151
>Then very quickly you have to fight 5 at once during an ambush

Thats a lie.
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>>335718472
>>335718584
>Using buzzwords that I didn't even use
kekarooni loonie toonies.
I'm out
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How does one parry? Just hitting block at the right moment?
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I'm retarded, do I need to be alive to summon visitors?

Also what do red named phantoms mean? I thought it was NPC phantoms but i've seen players with red names too. Is it just a guaranteed ohcoahcoahockocahockaocahoh bowl?
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>>335711465
This game is nothing like Onimusha retard. Having Samurai in it doesn't suddenly make a game Onimusha.

For starters, Onimusha literally has magic in it everywhere.
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>>335718927
i really hope there are muskets in this game

that dude in tenchu wrath of heaven with the full circle motion gun shot was incredible comfy
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>>335719212

Maybe I was just unlucky, but I didn't get a new Katana for AGES and I was stuck using a spear (which I had piles of) with no skills and a moveset I didn't care for.

It's probably only an issue if you die a lot, but thats the point of the game. It's just too punishing imho. Having to start over constantly is one thing, but having your best weapon removed once you do it too many times is a bit much.
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>>335719326
Buy the skill, you're as retarded as DSP.
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>>335714328
He is surprisingly adaptive. I expected more rage. I guess even DSP matures. At least until he reaches a roadblock.
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>>335718954
that's how it is nowadays
every demo is "alpha"
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>>335719326

You have to unlock weapon parries but you can parry while unarmed. Hold block and press square.
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>>335719329
Red names are the dev phantoms.
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>>335719326
it's a skill you have to unlock

you can then get a better version where you send the guy spilling behind you and slice down his back
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>>335719329
err not alive, have my spirit. sorry, souls is in my mind.
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>>335717769
No, it isn't. It's more inspired by Onimusha, not Souls
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I wanted to replay the demo, but didn't have the motivation since they'll probably change the gameplay and difficulty a lot in the final release. Pretty much everyone is going nuts because "it's too hard just to be hard" even the fucking "ecelebs" that love souls think it's too hard. Jesus christ
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>>335719465
> even the fucking "ecelebs" that love souls think it's too hard.

lol who? Vaati?
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>>335719368
you could have just killed phantoms to get their katanas
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>>335719396
Well at least unlike other games Nioh release date is late this year so they do actually have time to change things
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>>335719465
You get DLC for completing the demo, don't be a faggot.
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>>335707190
Something being hard simply for the sake of being hard is not suddenly good. I can spend a long time playing the demo more than I already have and eventually beat it, but that doesn't make it fun even if I get better.

Games like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden always start you out with enemies that pose little threat to you and let you actually understand how to play the game before it's throwing ninja at you with shuriken that stick to you and explode because by that time you have the ability necessary to deal with that.

Of course any criticism on the pacing of this game and it's retarded out the gate difficulty is met with >THIS IS THE PEOPLE I SHARE THE BOARD WITH WAAAH WAAAAH
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>>335719270
>I'm out
somehow i doubt that
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>DSP is doing better than most of /v/
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>>335719374
DSP is actually doing pretty well so far...
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>>335717637
I did
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i really hope they change the damage number font
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Nerf stone wall
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>>335719270
>I'm out
>just removes his trip
Sure thing, fag.
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>>335719684
Wtf no he isn't. I've just completed my No weapon run and it was only my second go. I haven't died once in this fucking demo.

None of you are honestly dying right? Just bait a guy, run around him and hit him in the back, works on every fucking enemy in the demo.
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Game's gonna get ass blasted in the feedback.

GG guys, almost had an good souls-like game with a combat that's not garbage or didn't ride FROM's nuts.
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>>335719562
I already completed it twice, that's why i said replay
>>335719534
ENB and OnlyAfro if you can even call them ecelebs, well at least in the eyes of the souls "community" they're famous. But seeing how ENB died multiple times to fucking crystal sage in DS3 i would never read anything from him again
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>>335719893
How exactly do you beat the boat boss with no weapon?
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>>335719151

You go around the gang-up you retard
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>>335706138
DSP thinks Dark Souls invented Durability. This man is a fucking talking amoeba.
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>>335719923

Oh thank god Afro didnt like the game. He single handedly killed Dark Souls 1 with his funny le epic giant dad youtube videos. The less meme cancer the better.
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>>335719916
Pretty much. People just want the exact gameplay and difficulty of souls for some reason. Back when DeS came out everyone had problems with the controls and even when DS1 came, out people still complained it's too hard, but when you get used to it it's relatively easy, same with Nioh. .
This game is already destined to be casualized
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>>335720067
Punch him to death noob.
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>>335719459

Are you baiting me

Have you ever actually played an Onimusha game?
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Beat it a while ago. Some thoughts:

-Lock on needs to be fine-tuned a bit, make it so when you back up you actually walk backwards instead of turning your back on the enemy like a retard.
-There are too many drops. It hurts the flow and pacing of the game a bit when you're constantly getting shit and have to go through it at shrines.
-Some things weren't explained well. Unless I missed something you can't parry axes or spears with the katana, just other katana. Shit like this needs to be made clear.
-Low stance seems fucking worthless. Garbage damage, garbage stun. I beat the whole demo and not once did I find it useful.

Overall it was really fun once I got used to it, but there are some kinks. Confident most of them will be worked out by the time it actually comes out.
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>>335713497
>Game is bullshit with it's difficulty out the gate
>Has obvious pacing issues
>IF YOU SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF THE GAME YOU ARE A SOULS BABY
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>>335720067
You punch him, doesn't take that long. Just listen to an album. I listened to the new Babymetal.
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>>335720191
low stance is good for elemental/debuff weapons since more hits=more chances to proc
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So what is more important, defense multiplier or vs break
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>>335720192
You are, the game isn't fucking hard the enemies telegraph everything and you can bait them.
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>>335720259
>it doesn't take long, just the length of an album
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>>335720191
>-There are too many drops. It hurts the flow and pacing of the game a bit when you're constantly getting shit and have to go through it at shrines.

For this demo specifically its a good thing to have that much loot because everything breaks fast.
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>>335720191
agree with most of this

>>335720187
not that guy but i havent played onimusha, how does it compare to this?
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>>335720463

Onimusha is a lot slower. It has Resident Evil controls and camera.
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>>335720259
>fist run
>Babymetal
Good taste my friend, keep it up.
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>>335720386
but that just means things should break slower, not that there should be so many drops
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So if i wanted to roll spears mainly with katana as my secondary should i be upping body, skill, heart and stamina?
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>>335720463
>not that guy but i havent played onimusha, how does it compare to this?

It has Samurai and Zombies, and a skill tree for what buttons you hit after attacks to do more stuff

That's literally it. In no other way does it resemble Onimusha.
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>>335720329
Defense multiplier, at least for the demo. That might change up in the actual release
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>>335720565
it's about pressuring people into trying each weapon so they don't just use the katana for the whole thing and miss out
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>>335719459
>I've never played an Onimusha game but I'm sure this is like it

Onimusha is why we have Devil May Cry. That's the type of game Onimusha is.
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>>335720192
If you rush in and don't block early in the demo, then yes you will die. But with every enemy you find new armor and weapons and tools. I don't get how you people play the game and i'm not saying it's easy either, but it's not nearly as hard as all you guys say it is. Do you expect to run through the game mashing attack and not dying once?
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>>335720565

I just want an NPC in a town or shrine that can fix them.
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>>335720614
look at your spears
they will have stat requirements listed at the bottom
it will be two stats
raise those stats
this goes for all weapons
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>How do I beat the boss
Activate guaridan when his stamina is flashing red.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6NEPWELCus
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>>335720724
full game will have a vendor at the shrine you can buy whetstones and glue from if you run out
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>>335720724
There will most likely be a blacksmith in the game if the loading screen tips are anything to go by
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>>335720353
I hope Team Ninja listens to retards like you who think the game is perfect and don't change it at all so you get your "cult classic" that all 5 of you retards circle jerking will play and Tecmo gives up on making big budget console games and just focuses on mobile games because they didn't manage to capture any audience with this pile of trash. Not the Souls audience or the Ninja Gaiden audience.

Have fun with your shit.
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>>335720748
i did and it had B+ on body and C/D on skill and strength but then when i try to raise heart it give me 3 points into my damage when the weapon has no scaling with it
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What's your favorite weapon type? They're all really fun but spears might be my favorite. Axes feel like the strongest to me, though.
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>>335720836
I fucking hope so, I ended up with like 8k gold which has no use besides blessings which only cost like 100.
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>>335720668
Blocking makes your stamina fly out the window and breaks your guard in about 2 hits.
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>>335720192
Whether or not you're a Souls-baby doesn't change the fact that you're an idiot who needs to get good.
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>>335720852
Butthurt much?
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After playing this demo is anyone else going to make a William build in DaS3 because they're hyped
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I love the game but it could use a bit better tutorial. The important mechanics are explained behind enemies that can 1 shot you unless you get lucky with the first couple of kills to get armor.

I think the thing that can fix it is giving you a basic set of armor along with the initial katana they give you from the corpse. Dont nerf anything just give a free set.
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>>335720881
Spears are amazing when you are in an open area, they're gonna be my main with Katanas.
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>>335720881
i used katanas for most of the demo
spears are kinda fun, but i didnt like axes at all
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>>335720929
But not against all the early enemies, sure the slow big hitters, but why would you block against them. What are you even trying to defend here.
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>>335720191
You should have to hold X to start running in combat, I know you can make yourself walk by not pushing the analog the whole way but its kindof hard to keep that up in some situations.

Also low stance is great for breaking stamina down. Its for maintaining pressure not necessarily damage since you recover stamina quickr and have longer iframes when using it, if an enemy has below half stamina I always swap to it and try to whittle them down, forcing them to both dodge and block if they dont have the stamina to handle it, aswell as the hits draining stamina too, this then leads to a finisher when their stamina is depleted which is where the damage comes from when using this stance. Its just a different way to play really.
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>>335720929
Mid stance nigga.
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>>335720881

Spears.
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>>335720881
I used mostly katana, just because they look the coolest.
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>>335720836
Source: your ass
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>>335720852
Truth hurts faggot. It's impossible to die in this game if you aren't retarded.
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>>335720881
I went through 80% of the demo with axes, only switched back to a katana against nue because I realized that with the way I'd been raising my stats on top of a purple drop I'd gotten from an oni it had an attack power of 330, higher than the hammer I was using
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>>335720836
Source?
I hope these threads won't turn out like the FFXV threads were people just make shit up
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>>335720881
Axe.
Heavy.
Shark.
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>>335721072
I usually hit guard rapidly to make my guy face the locked on target.
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How do I get good with the katana? Or in general, really, I used the axe to carry me through both the first and second area since it's literally square square triangle to kill everything ever and I'd like to actually learn the game instead of being a bitch who relies on broken nonsense.
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I thought souls fans liked hard games that require learning and patience. What happened?
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>>335720881
Katana or spears, I love the pshhh, *teleports behind you* "nothin personal" attacks the katanas has but the spear just feels better on account of all its special moves, love that grapple that puts you behind the enemy, just keep using it to separate enemies.
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Am I missing something with the "grab" attack against foes with no ki left? Most of the time when I press triangle at someone with no ki I just do a regular thrust or whatever, not that sick cinematic move that knocks them down.
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>>335721374
They found out that as soon as you get used to the controls, souls games are actually not hard
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>>335721413

Depends on the stance. For spears it is mid stance for finishers.
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>>335721413
You have to do it while they are panting.
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>>335721276
you get money, but have only one thing you can spend it on, the cost of which is not proportional to how much moolah you get
there are two tabs on the shrine wheel that never get unlocked
you do everything else at the shrine

if I'm wrong you're cordially invited to cut off my labia
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>>335721413
Are the enemies breathing hard in a standstill?
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>>335721413
Hit them first so they stumble, then hit them with a Triangle attack.
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>>335719246
Its not. There is an area in which 5 dudes jump out and wreck your shit.
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>>335721413

When they run out of stamina you are supposed to hit them 1 time to get them panting then you get close and press triangle. Some weapons have their finishers in different stances.
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>>335720852
>Not the Souls audience
Thank fuck, it's riddle with queermo's like you.
>or the Ninja Gaiden audience.
Ninja Gaiden early game mooks were much more aggressive.
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>>335721494
>>335721501
>>335721532
>>335721538
>>335721629
I see, thanks.
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>>335721413
You will definately notice when you can do it, sometimes when theyre low on stamina they can still control themselves, like you can, you just cant dodge or attack or youll cause yourself to tire. If they have visibly no stamina hit them with a normal attack to force them to attempt a block and this will guarantee they set themselves up for a finisher because they havent the staimna to do it.
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>>335721578

No that is a lie. You do not get an ambush of 5 at the beginning of the game.
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>>335721578
it's not an ambush because you can see three of them just standing there and can use your shuriken to lure them out one by one
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>>335719673
DSP also soloed most of DaS3 which is more than 90% of the /v/ can claim.
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>>335721578
>There is an area in which 5 dudes jump out and wreck your shit.
there literally isnt, i've played the whole demo and that never happens
you're just being reckless
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>fight oni
>fall through roof and into a house with 2 enemies waiting
>hightail the fuck out of there
>there are like 3 more enemies walking around outside
>sprinting for my life with a small army of enemies behind me
>flee up a ladder and cheese them by knocking them off as they come up

Man this game is fun.
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DSP weak to swole spearmen.
Got curbstomped by six niggas.
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>>335721374
>Generalizing
>Circlejerking

Bonjour Reddit. Comment ca va?
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>>335722140
>wooow i have to fight 6 of them at once, literally nothing i could do
just like /v/, running around like a headless chicken
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>>335721972
>Oni cant get back up either
I know exactly where youre talking about. I thought I was doing some sick juggles when I hit the enemies on the ladder and they started flying into the air while you could still hit them and make them go higher.
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>Just lost accumulated amrita from three hours of retries because I was in a hurry and accidentally ran into a fire
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New thread.

>>335722506
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This has better "bonfire" placement than DaS3.
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>>335722540
DaS3 was too forgiving with that stuff in my opinion
>trail of sacrificies
>bonfire literally past one mob of enemies
What the fuck, why, whats the point, its suppose to feel like a relief when you find one, not a fucking checkpoint.
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