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Cont >>335682735
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1st for artificial difficulty
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>>335706138
>japanese game
>playing blond foreigner MC killing japanese citizens
>"mark of the conqueror"

Jap confirmed for cucks
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this game is an unpolished gem

with the right tweaks at performance and QoL changes it can become GOTY.
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Tips from the previous thread

>Ki Blast: When you attack watch your Ki bar. It'll start to fill up white quite fast, if you hit R1(Stance button) during this time you'll INSTANTLY get that amount of Ki back. If you get it perfect i.e. get all your stamina you used back, you do a Ki blast which gets rid of the dark flame patches that Yokia/Oni put down(Standing in these patches will severely reduce Ki recovery).

>(Note this is for Katanas, figure the other weapon stances out on your own. Most of it is shared)
>High Stance: Slow attacks, high damage, high Ki usage, only get one roll
>Medium Stance: Balanced speed, damage, and Ki usage, able to parry, get 2 dodges (quick step into roll).
>Low stance: Low damage and Ki usage, fast attacks, dodges have the same effect as Ki blast (yes you can get stamina back by dodging), get 2 dodges.

>SWITCH FUCKING STANCES AND WEAPONS WHEN NEEDED. YES EVEN IN MID COMBAT IT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR.

>When enemies are out of Ki (Their bar is red). Hitting them will make them stumble, after that press triangle and you'll do a special attack for major damage. Katanas have this immediately, while Spears and (I think) Axes have to unlock this.

>L1 IS FUCKING GUARD, USE IT. HOLY SHIT.
>X IS DODGE, USE THAT TOO. But be aware that dodging has very little (if any) invincibility frames. YES YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DODGE/GET OUT OF THE WAY OF ATTACKS RATHER THAN ABUSE I-FRAMES LIKE SOULS.

>When you get hit, guard recovers faster than dodge. So mash/hold L1(guard) instead of mashing X(dodge).

>Back attacks deal MAJOR damage(this applies to you too). Keep your back protected, while trying to hit enemies in the back.

>Donate your excess shit to the shrine. You can get items such as: Elixers, glue, and whetstones. You can even bulk donate shit under certain rarities that you set.
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Reposting

I played for an hour earlier. As somebody who's finished all the Soul's games so far I waned to like this.

Plenty of good ideas (stances for example) but the combat just doesn't click with me. Maybe it's down to horrible weapon drops or something but I couldn't get into this and instead just tried to run through it to have a look. Is there no way to buy weapons??
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Xth for this is not Dark Souls and git gud
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>tfw Nioh

No, really. The game is rad though.
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>>335706112
So he loses his electricity when he's out of stamina? Good to know. Guess I'll go mid/high to burn out his stamina.
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>>335706301

>You can obtain new moves when you level up. Check your menu it'll have and exclamation mark on it.

>Hell just check out YOUR FUCKING MENU. YES ALL THE TABS, READ WHAT THEY FUCKING DO.

>The circle in the top left is your guardian. When it's full you can press Triangle+Circle to summon a living weapon. During this time you do more damage and have a special move tied to triangle(you an charge this). You're health and Ki is replaced by another continuously depleting bar. Using Ki and getting hit will deplete this bar faster. YOU CANNOT DIE WHILE IN THIS MODE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN CHARGE IN THINKING YOU'RE HOT SHIT.

>If you don't have a guardian in the top left. This is most likely because you died. Retrieving your shit, dying again, or recalling it at a shrine(you will lose your stuff that it was protecting) will get your guardian back.
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>>335706138
Based William.
Cuts down nips.
Cuts down oni.
Saves little green men.
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>>335706138
>Watch a stream
>Guy constantly complaining how it's ripping off Dark Souls
>Complain that the character is white
>Mic picking up the sound of him constantly mashing buttons when fighting
>Complain that there aren't enough checkpoints
>Chat agreeing with him all the way
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What stance do you use?
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>>335706417
does he regularly stream soulsbournes?
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And fill this after playing.

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_us
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>>335706323
Nothing so far.

the game does mention a blacksmith, so there is that.
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>>335706262
KILL WHITEY!! #BLM
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>>335706407
Isn't William regarded as a legend among nips and generally liked by Japanese historians though?
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Because it will be asked here is how Ki Burst works. Look at the ki/stamina bar. This makes the game A LOT easier. Also level up and unlock skills.
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>>335706138
Does anyone else get a little motion sick while playing this? I don't know if it's from the unsteady framerate or the fast panning of the right camera stick, but I couldn't play for more than half an hour before I had to stop. I can't think of the last time I ever got motion sick playing a game, it certainly never happened when playing any of the souls games or bloodborne.
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>>335706528
Yes, the people complaining about a white MC are literally retarded and the rest of their opinions should be regarded as such.
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>>335706528
Well yeah, the modern civilized ones.
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NIOH OFFICIAL SURVEY
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_us
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>>335706578
no, never got motion sick over it.
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It will be hilarious if crapcom try to revive onimusha by making it a dark soul clone.
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>>335706531
So a perfect Ki Burst is when the red bar is completely replaced by the white bar?
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>>335706578

Did you change it to Action Mode in the title menu? It downgrades the graphics but get stead framerates.

Between every time you boot up the game the setting will go back to graphics mode by default so you have to set it up again.
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>>335706476

Once I hefted the axe and skilled my first point in it I use high stance almost exclusively.

Square square triangle is great for killing crawlies, staight triangle just knocks jobbers on their asses, and square square dodge is just massive damage while retaining your mobility.

Honestly, I wish you had some kind of movement penalty for being in high stance. It seems to be just way better than the other two if only because the sheer damage output you can toss around.
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>>335706578
It happens while playing BB, set the game to action, not movie.
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>>335706505
Most of the time, yes. It's either that or some other new RPG that's come out recently.
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tbf, i hope we get a Yasuke game later on.
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>>335706476
Mid usually its my go to stance. If its a one on one fight I usually go with high.
Low is shit tbqh and can't stagger anything worth a damn.
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>>335706751

Yeah. Think of it like the Gears of War reload system but you get the stamina back instead of ammo and can keep attacking. The white bar is the amount of stamina you will get back if you press R1. If you do not press it the white bar disappears and the stamina starts filling up slowly instead.
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>>335706810
that pretty much explains all his complaints about the game
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Why the fuck is the protagonist a blue eyed white guy?
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>>335706673
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(sailor)

>he became a key advisor to the shogun Tokugawa Ieyasu.
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>>335706350
did you see >>335706540
?
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where do you get the Raikiri?
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>game is literally about a white man conquering japan

redpilled af
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Can someone post a screenshot of shirtless William?
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>>335706757
Didn't know Action Mode was a thing, lol. Thanks for the tip.
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>>335706323
Yeah, I agree. There's a really cool game hidden somewhere in there, but the devs certainly didn't find it. The difficulty is simply too bullshit to be fun for the most part. It needs tweaks that I doubt it will get with them planning for fall release. The combat stances really are cool, they just unfortunately got thrown in with too many other incompatible ideas that make the game frustrating and unfairly difficult. The loot system and item breakage don't work together, especially with how fast things deteriorate. And the Souls game structure is heavily at odds with the Ninja Gaiden style pace. Sounds fantastic on paper, but it leaves a lot to be desired in execution.
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>>335706990

No dude thats gay wtf.
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>>335706830
This.
>Third is all the foreigner samurai joining together
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>>335706904
see>>335706906

every thread
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this game is gonna be awful. this demo is awful.
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This game is one that I truly find difficult.
The fighting is satisfying, cutting heads off.
The swordplay is fun.
The wide array of skills is awesome
I like the shrine system.
This is an alpha demo but I have a feeling I'll be getting the full game
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>>335706476
Mid and high for katana, I've upgraded those skills a lot. And high for spear.
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>Team Ninja and From Software have been always making hard games just because
>Suddenly this one game becomes popular and the new standard for the "if you don't beat this game you are not a TRUE gamer git gud xD" meme
>after four sequels people get the hang of it
>a game that gets a lot of elements from the Souls games appears, but makes enough changes to the combat so it feels new and challenging again
>le epic TRUE gamers shitting their pants with the difficulty and complaining about it
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>>335706476

High all day every day.
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>>335707037
I need to see if... uhh... the arms connect well to the rest of the body in the... 3D model... unlike in DaS.... yeah that.
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>>335706476
All of them. They are situational.
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>>335707173
Genuinely thought that was Geraldt at first sight haha.
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>>335706707
I hate to be the guy that brings it up, but
>no "other" option in the gender category
Feels good, man.
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>>335707190
I hate "git gud"
Like "yo man can you help me with this boss?"
"OMG GIT GUD SCRUUUUUB"
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>>335706830
He never did anything important.
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>>335707173
The other white-haired white guy, anon
Don't be racist
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Wheres my William x Geralt fanfiction
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>>335706248
THERE A PEOPLE LIKE THIS
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>>335707308

He looks identical when stepping out of the boat.
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>>335707096
git gud, dsp.

>>335706952
>>335707001
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>>335706248
Alot of those are valid criticism. The game has tons of artificial difficulty just like Dark Souls. Enemies that one shot you take plenty of hits to kill regardless of the fact they are just regular ass people.
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Samurai Geralt is a cute
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>>335707329
He was buddies with Oda Nobunaga.

Thats important enough to make a crazy game about japanese devils.
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>>335706906
I did mention he was based.
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>>335706476
High Stance + Spear + Square->Triangle = Easy Mode
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>>335706952
Beat the second boss
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>>335707469
>take plenty of hits to kill

You must be using the wrong stance.
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>>335707353
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Weird comment and not much to do with the game, but that survey was really well done and to the point.

Actually asked important questions about your experienced as opposed to unrelated bullshit.
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>>335707487
But Nobugana is the devil, Yasuke should be evil.
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How the fuck do you parry? I put a skill point into it but the timing is either impossible or it just doesn't work. I'm using the right stance according to the skill tree.
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>>335707469
wrong. enemies take 13 hits to kill you and die in 2 hits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaY0E4ySDbE proof and more proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNCP8ciKcLI
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>>335707704
>believing Tokugawa lies.

Anyway, Yasuke would be the perfect backdrop for a prequel of Nioh.

He comes during the Age of Warfare, gets to hang around the devil king, he was even at honnouji.
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>>335707639
The /other/ sexy, sword-wielding, white-haired white guy
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>>335707778
git gud, I got it to work on my 2nd try and I never parry in other games.
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>>335706707
>you can submit the survey multiple times

How can this even be trusted
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>>335707623
Never once have I killed an enemy with a single attack, even when attacking from behind, with a High Stance, fully charged triangle attack.
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>>335707904
>Using African voodoo magic to fight Oni and Youkai

Yes please
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I fucking despise souls games and I cannot stop playing this demo I'm enjoying myself so much
Explain this athiests.
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not that I'm great at the game, but.. https://youtu.be/48o-zYLabjM
I honestly think most people complaining are too used to souls games. There's much more stamina management in this by comparison but they give you the tools. It's a much more twitchy, in-depth version of the soulsborne style games.
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>>335706673
Nah, even back in his day he was respected.
Dude sailed all the way to Japan from England. Of the 100 crew members, he was one of the 9 to survive.
He was then wrongfully imprisoned and his cargo was stripped of him after being accused of piracy.
Then, the Shogun liked him so fucking much he freed him and put him to work as one of his right hands. The cannons he brought over with him and his general strategic knowledge of naval warfare was instrumental in the success of several battles.
He also really helped Japan prosper by facilitating trade routes to England and putting them on good terms with them.
He was given a new name, new wife, a plot of land, two swords and was the first firthy whitu~ samurai.

All in all the dude was a hard motherfucker. Japs loved him back then.
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>>335708079
but the video proves that its possible. you do 1600 dmg for parries and 1800 dmg for drop attacks. you probably have shit gear, the guy in the vid is low lvl too so you have no excuse but bad luck or using the wrong moves and not hitting in the back. Which does double dmg.
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>>335708157
you're a weeb.
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>>335708157

It's not a Souls game.

Atheists: 1 Shitposters: 0

Seriously the similarities make it good, but the differences are what make it unique and ultimately more enjoyable.
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>>335708079

I was lvl 8 in that webm. Leveling makes a big difference.
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>>335708157

its much closer to onimusha.
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>unsheathe kantana
>teleport behind you
>N-NANI??
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>>335708169
>William Anderson
triggered, to be honest
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This stance system is arguably the best melee combat system I have ever used. Its so god damn fun and simple
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>>335708219
There a good movie about this slick motherfucker?

I asked in the last thread but it died.
Pls rspond
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Question, how do I join a friend's session?
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>>335708741
shogun is loosely based on him
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I am hyped. I havent felt like this since Demon's Souls.
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>>335708604

The thing that makes it truly stand out is the enemies use it as well. So if you're observant you can tell which attacks they're going to use or at least planning to use. For trash mobs at least.

I also enjoy that it isn't rock-paper-scissors. They all have defined strengths and weaknesses and one isn't necessarily objectively better than the other two.
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>>335706138
Featuring David Beckham from the FIFAâ„¢ series
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>>335708518
No teleports, but the spear has a pretty cool flip.
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>mfw the revenant system

This motherfuckers behave like people. They bait me and everything.
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>>335708151
>Using African voodoo magic to fight Oni and Youkai
> voodoo magic

Afro souls when?
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>>335708905
Come on, you posted this only to make that joke.
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So am I supposed to specialize on a stance or a weapon? Should I use every stance depending on the enemy? I can't find a use for high stance right now
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>>335708354
Yeah this. It's almost literally like a tankless Onimusha. If team ninja can pull this game off then we won't need capcom.
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Can someone post the manual?
I cannot access my ps4 at the moment.
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>there is a magic stat but there is no magic

Bravo From.
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>>335709231
>Bravo From.

Why did that get me so bad
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A few problems I had with the demo

1. Lock on seems pretty meaningless if your attacks don't automatically aim toward the locked on target. There were so many times when I'd lock on and attack and swing right past the fucker. I just stopped using it; if I have to manually aim the swings each time regardless, why use it?

2. Weapon durability is meaningless, and there seems to be no way to recover it aside from grind stones. It also decays extremely quickly. This essentially meant I just ran past revenants and optional enemies because I didn't want to lose the sword I liked.

3. Some of the moves seem iffy to pull off. Grapple is one of them. It's supposed to be triangle against a ki drained opponent. But it seems to activate something like 50% of the time. I'll use triangle against them, do a stab, then the attack after that will be the grab. And sometimes it doesn't work at all. Against a revenant I drained his ki and then stabbed him three times with triangle and the grapple never activated. The parry system is similar. There are times when the timing seems super loose and generous, and there are times when I think I hit it just right and for some reason it doesn't work. It may be due to stances and which form of parry I'm using, but it doesn't say anywhere that, for instance, square parry only works with horizontal attacks, or whatever. The Iaito draw was like this too; its got a simple input but like 60% of the time I tried to do it, I just drew my sword, despite holding the inputs. I feel like its one of those "O slightly before r1" things, but again they don't tell you.

4. The stunlocking enemies can do on you is really annoying. I don't mind the fact that they can drain your health and kill you easily. Thats fine. But being comboed is annoying. I don't know, but some sort of ability to parry or dodge out of it would be nice, but it doesn't seem to exist.
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>>335709086
NIGGA IS THAT RAIN? FUCK I NEED TO PROGRESS THERE.
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>>335709184
>I can't find a use for high stance right now
Combo finisher. Also charge triangle combo, rather than the stupid kick. Use it to fight Oni, armored guys and bosses
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>>335709184

High stance tend to be for single targets while mid and low for groups. You have to be constantly changing.

Between did you know you can change combos in the menu?
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>>335709231
but there is magic of two different kinds and this is an alpha where lots of stuff is obviously still missing. Or was this an ebin double trole?
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>>335706138
>My name is William and my Surname starts with A.
>Because of this I have no choice to but to buy this game.

I'm so fucking glad I'm enjoying it.
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>>335708845
Someone answer plz
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>>335709446
Glad you're having fun William Applebee
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>>335709357
>It's supposed to be triangle against a ki drained opponent. But it seems to activate something like 50% of the time. I'll use triangle against them, do a stab, then the attack after that will be the grab. And sometimes it doesn't work at all.

You need to get the enemies into a drained, panting animation, just like when you ran out of stamina. To do this, when the enemy stamina is blinking red, you need to attack them 1 more time, and they'll go to the panting animation state. If you attack them twice they'll crumple and you can do the grapple stab when they're downed instead.

Oni and bosses work differently, when stamina runs out they can't be grappled, but they have no poise so you can chain your combo for free, take advantage of the ki pulse mechanic to string long combos
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>>335706138
My only issue is some of my inputs feel dropped or delayed sometimes but that might because its always online at the moment. I think the game would benefit heavily from a Souls buffer for inputs.

It might also just be awkwardly strict. I'll have times where i dodge twice or dodge then heal and swear i did it right after the dodge but might be hitting it just a frame too soon and buffer window would fix this.

All that being said first area killed me like 30-40 times and the boss 10-15 tries probably more like 10. This game will wake me up to the Ninja Gaiden player i used to be. Its definitely very set on good decision making. Its just alittle punishing at the start it feels for bad decisions. It feels very difficult to salvage a terrible situation at the start no matter how well you play.

I will agree with one thing being bs. My first death was the only death i learned nothing from. The dumb nigger with the axe clipped me and didn't even hit me in the back and i died instantly. That is alittle absurd that a normal enemy when at max life will kill you just because of a default weapon not even hitting you in the back.
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>>335709357
Cont.

I enjoyed the game and will probably pick it up when it releases, but there are a lot of things about it that didn't feel right, if that makes sense. Stuff in the systems that felt awkward or not terribly responsive. Ki pulse in particular seems a rather confusing introduction; because it essentially means you're gonna spend the entire game glancing up at your stamina bar or just memorizing the timing of the r1 press.

It seems superfluous, not sure why it exists.
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I like the game but they need to tone it down with the enemy mobs.

like, when you go up the winding path theres that mob that attacks you and unless you have a bow theres literally no way to pick them 1 at a time and if you get all of them, its easy to get rekt.

its neat though. My favorite mechanic by FAR is the bloodstains. whereas Dark Souls lets you see how the guy died, this game lets you fucking summon the dead warrior's ghost from the underworld to fight you holy shit
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>>335709184
High stance for single targets that won't punish you for low Ki.
Mid for groups general combat
Low for 2fast4u attacks and flashy staff moves and "teleports behind you" tier dodges.

There will be some give obviously.
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>>335706138
gotta catch em all
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>>335706248
I single enemies with shuriken.

Did any of these shittalkes even try this out? I like it very much.
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>First boss took me like 10 tries or alittle more
>First level took me a shit ton of deaths

Can't wait for Souls shitters to claim its only okay when their games do it. Even though the most i died in DaS3 was like 3 times to the harder bosses besides Nameless who only takes like 3 tries on most playthroughs now let alone the others who don't.

This game needs some polish of course its a alpha but fuck its rewarding.
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>>335709684
I think the problem was I had them ki drained but they hadn't entered that animation yet. Because their bars were blinking and they were clearly at zero ki, but they were still staggering, and hadn't had time to enter the animation.

Which seems a very odd thing to do in a fast paced fighter like this. A lot like DS2's stupid fall on ass parry animation.
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>>335708049
it can't.

they just do this to make us feel we have some agency on the development of the game, while in truth, we don't.
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I give up with the game.

I tried my best to learn everything but it just doesn't make click. The fighting is just way too woncky and no matter how much I try I just can't git gud. Especially the camera and the movement make it hard to me.
And the enemy tracking and rotation time (As in attacking in a different direction) are way too fast and hard to dodge. And as some already mentioned the game really doesn't explain much, but I guess that will be changed for the release. Another smaller nitpick is the infinite range enemies follow you. Plus some of the animations on the enemies, especially when they're running feels a bit off, but maybe that's just me.

I will give up with the demo for now and hope they improve the whole thing, because for now it's way too frustrating for me.
I tried to git gud but failed.

And yes the webm is from me
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>tfw ultra shitter but having fun anyway
>tfw can't git gud
>tfw completely goofed on skill allocation because I didn't know what the fuck in the beginning
>tfw only have until the fifth to beat it or no free DLC

The stress is getting to me.
Fucking boat Oni.
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>>335706707
Playable cute girl.
They better listen to me.
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MAN this demo is difficult. It's like they are trying a bit too hard up front to show that they can appeal to hardcore people, which they really don't have to given Team Ninjas track record.

It does feel very satisfying to overcome though, so I'm optimistic that it will be a good game
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>>335708542
I knew I got it wrong. Oh well. Got the intials right. It's hard remembering shit off the top of your head.
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>>335709871
How'd you get so many fire enchants? I found literally 1 in the first level.
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>>335709357
>>335709759
git gud.
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>>335709804
>like, when you go up the winding path theres that mob that attacks you and unless you have a bow theres literally no way to pick them 1 at a time and if you get all of them, its easy to get rekt.

I use stones to pull them. Seriously stones in this game are so useful. You can also walk slowly to the left and stealth pass them.
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>Dont level up
>Dont spec your character correctly
WOOOOOOOW FUCKING ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTy

Unlike dark souls, the rpg elements actually matter here
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>>335707782
Yeah, if you're armored up to the fucking max. People there are complaining about the early game where you start basically unarmored.
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>>335709924
I died fucking loads so I'm a little wary of getting the full game.
But I also really like the setting and unlike Soul I feel like I had a better grasp on direct, like in Souls games I always get super lost, but I was fine for the most part in Nioh.
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>>335710050
you can cast it yourself, its a skill.
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>>335709357
I haven't played yet but i heard you can recover blocking faster than you can recover dodging when being attacked. Did you try to block instead of rolling out of the way at all?
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>>335709967
>Runs to the right instead of backwards
git gud.
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>>335706138
>tfw you figure out the way to beat Nue
>still get killed a lot
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>>335709967
Yeah you're right, you should stop playing and never play again. Why would you dodge left or right KNOWING there's 2 fucking walls there that will limit your movement? You were doing ok at the start but you let him close you in.
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>>335709967
>Another smaller nitpick is the infinite range enemies follow you

This is one of the things that bothered me the most. I fucked up and want to retreat to take them 1 by 1 but these guys will follow you non stop.
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>>335710179
>there is progression in an action rpg
>you level up and become stronger
WOW stop the presses. I started a 2nd char today and beat the first boss on my first try.
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>>335709086
How did you manage to execute this? I keep trying but I never successfully teleported behind the enemy.
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>>335709967
The game is more item based then people are trying right now. Save your bombs for shit like this it rapes the oni. They don't respawn also so you could grind your spirit and just wipe them out.

Game is hard bro but don't think you gotta play it like PERFECT PARRIES NO ITEMS IM A GOD! Just like Ninja Gaiden this game encourages more usage of your overall items and such then a game like DMC.
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>>335710225
Literally the problem.
For some reason my brain stops working when I play the game.

Well this and fighting with lock on feels so damn weird. I just can't get used to it
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>>335710294
wrong. I tried it out today, I baited 6 enemies into following me and 5 turned back before even reaching the 3rd shrine in the 1st level. I started in the middle of the burning village.
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>>335709231
You can have magic in the alpha. I use ninja stars to draw enemies towards me and water scroll to fuck up bitch ass onis
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>>335710176
RPG elements mattered in dark souls
Your main character is the weapon, you definitely have to level it up or you get fucked.
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>>335709967

>0:07

Holy shit anon whats up with that ki? That dodge took it all. That only happens when you are overweight.
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>>335710331
Low stance nigga

Gets you your cuhrazy shit
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>>335710473
Yeah, you only need to level up the weapon, your character stats barely make a difference, people enter this game thinking it will be like darksouls and dont level up, proceed to get their shit kicked in
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>>335710221
Holy shit i completely forgot about skill points and haven't been using them im fucking trash.

Also if you aren't a Sharkbro you fags should kill yourselves.
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>>335710343
I will try it later in some days. I just wish there was somekind of training room or something similar because I'm still not used of that fighting system.

>>335710512
Isn't the maximal amount you can carry without problem 70%?
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I would buy it if it wasn't SO FUCKING GENERIC. Literally nothing on this game feels original. I'm not complaining about it being aripoff of Dark Souls, I'm talking about stuff like the motherfucking protagonist being a generic white blonde guy that looks like Geralt or any other protagonist ever. Yeah, fuck you, I know the whole hur le inspired in real character thing. The game sells itself as dark but the whole 'you can see all these points just like a MMO' gimmick just makes it feel even more generic.

Also, I played games a thousand times harder than the hardest Souls game and I can see that this is obviously artifficial difficulty. Stop with the memes trying to justify this shit.
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>>335709967
>that armor and stamina
Stay below 70%
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Gomenasai /v/, my name is William-sama.

I’m a 36 year old British weeaboo (Japanophile for you gaijins)

I train with my Katana every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak Japanese fluently, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Japanese history and their bushido code, which I follow 100%

When I get my Japanese visa, I am moving to Owari province to attend a prestigious Samurai School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an advisor for Tokugawa Ieyasu or even a Daimyo!

I own several kimonos, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Japan, so I can fit in easier. I bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in Japan!
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>>335710223
The major problem with that is that blocking can take enormous amounts of ki, so its very risky to block because you can get exhausted and combo'd.

>>335710075
See, that isn't a valid criticism because I'm not having problems progressing, I'm having problems using systems because they're poorly explained. You can get away with that in Dark souls because dark souls combat mechanics are very simple. But in this demo major gameplay aspects are left completely unexplained or poorly explained. Ki pulse, for instance, was explained in this thread far better than it is in game. And it's a major part of the combat system.
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>>335710694
William was Dutch, senpai.
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How the hell do you do the Up+X finishers on low stance? I keep dodging
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>>335710613
shark is OP. The firefox is pretty gud too though. You will be able to level them up in the final game and there will be probably shitloads of them. cannot wait.
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>>335709979
You got this man just take it slow.
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>>335710512
He dodged twice.
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>>335710725
Shit.
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>>335709967
First of all get out of high stance, it will do you no good for fast opponents, especially ones that can tank your hits.

Can't you see that you run out of Ki after 1 hit and a dodge?
Go into mid stance, maybe try a spear so you got a little more range.

Its a jump not a teleport, you gotta be in low stance with a staff and I find it works best if you press x and forward in the first half of your combo animation.

I've got an thought with this.
See how you flash as you jump? those are iframes, so this move isn't just to get behind your enemy this is just a vertical dodge, that happens to open up some attack avenues.
Something to help if backed in a corner or are mid combo and won't have time to dodge.
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>>335710626
>Isn't the maximal amount you can carry without problem 70%?
No. Even dark souls you want to stay below 70% or you get the fat roll animation. I try to hover around 65%
>>335710725
William was born in Kent England fampai, he's britbong.
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>>335710512
>fatshaming
I mean, saying anon is a terrible player is one thing, but saying he's terrible because he's fat is over the line.
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>>335710723
>blocking takes enourmous amounts of ki.
ok son, git gud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq9SyYRZY3k you just suck at the game apparently.
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>>335710694
>Everything is weeb/neckbeard

Shitposters are the worst
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>>335709979
Just start again, i fucked my first run and the second went way smoother, i actually leveled up and specced into katana only, been having so much fun
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At least the loading times are lightning fast, which is nice considering how much I'm dying all the time
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>>335710678
One reason its artificial difficulty give me one. Just because you die fast doesn't make it so. Everything is avoidable to the player and good decisions can conquer all without luck. Yes its alittle fucking harsh especially at the start to a cruel extent but learn to use terms properly you fucking retard.

Artificial difficulty is only when something is guaranteed to be out of the players control to a extent and force retries. Nothing forces retries in this game its just fucking hard.
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>>335708845
>>335709527
you don't

it may be by chance if he happens to summon you.
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>>335710923
Try doing that in the intro area with a new character to the ax men. They can completely drain you in one hit.

Again, people are complaining about the early game because they never got to the late.
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>>335710626
>Isn't the maximal amount you can carry without problem 70%?

The more weight you have the more stamina you will take when dodging. There are colors to indicate this. Blue>Green>Yellow>Red.

>>335710790

This how much stamina dodging consumes when you are in blue weight. I dodged twice too and it didnt take that much. 70% and up will fuck you up.
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If I download the demo now, will I still be able to play it after they remove it from the store?
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>>335710694
Good luck Davido-Kun!
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>>335710761
You sure you level them up?
From the demo it looks like you just unlock more of their effects if you have the right stats, like weapons and armor.
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>>335711083
>lvl 1 character supposed to block lvl 15 oni in a game which has diablo/borderlands tier amounts of gear with + KI.
How about dodging instead? they are slow as fuck.
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>>335711014
The weapon durability is artificial difficulty because it adds nothing to the game but a meaningless restriction that does not enhance gameplay.
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>>335710683
Fucking this
I tried going full heavy armor and then realized I'm an idiot and switched to normal armor
Even with 10 stamina a single slash from medium takes all my ki with full heavy. It might be better for late to endgame when you can have jacked up stamina builds and be around 50% armor weight and tank like hell.
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>>335710613
Fox master race.
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>>335711108
Try dodging in high stance.
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>>335711110
its always online only.

>>335711152
it literally says lvl 1 on the spirit animal screen m8. use your eyes.
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>>335710772
>>335710949
I can dodge everything pretty reliably when I see it coming. It's just that he busts out 360 spins out of nowhere so everytime I go in for a hit he fucks me and I run out of healing items.
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>>335711237
Surprised you could name the one thing that annoys me alot. Honestly i dunno why shit doesn't auto repair at the shrine. Weapon durability has always been a shit mechanic. The only game i've ever seen do it right was Diablo 2 and that is just because ethereal weapons need to work that way because of their own mechanic.
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>>335710050
Do you read well?

It under the level skill menu
You are able to level those up a total of 3 times
Giving you a maximum of 3 talismans
Once you buy the upgrade be sure to equip the upgrade as well
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HOLY SHIT I FINALLY BEAT NUE
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>>335710883
the second part of this was meany for >>335710331
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>>335711228
I was responding to a guy who said to try blocking. The point was that blocking can be dangerous against certain enemies because strong attacks drain your stamina quickly.

Jesus I can see the dark souls level cancerous defense force building for this already.
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>>335707020
Sounds like a bunch of bull.

This game is not as high fantasy as Dark Souls, thats why you can't have magic everywhere, making your life easier.

If this game does good, the prequel will be a lot better, believe me. I crave for Onimusha Type games, don't take this from me, anons! DONT DO IT!
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>>335706262
Hey, if an entire race wants me to subjugate them and rape me with their women, who am I to say no?
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I died 7 times against that Demon in the beach Shack and then I went and killed the boss on the boat first try.
I don't know what to make of this game, but I think I like it.
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>>335711398
wait for one combo to end hit once or twice and do adouble backflip. rinse and repeat. I bet a little kid could do it if he was born in another era where kids are not braindead.
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>>335711271
Don't make me post fucking shark girls furfag.
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>>335711237
Maybe you should save up on good weapon for killing oni and bosses

>the HP mechanics is an artificial difficulty that adds nothibg to the gameplay, the game ends when your hp ran out
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>>335711398
Bait his frontal attack, then get behind and attack, retreat quickly because hes gonna spin, repeat
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>>335710723
You can acquire skills that reduce how much ki is used when blocking

Try to read before complaining
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>>335710003
Mah fucking nigger.

Gracia is best girl.
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>>335706138
Wait, why is the witcher in a game called NIoh?
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>>335711457
But what you have said is wrong, blocking works against the first boss as well, just need to be smart about it. Dodging is always the best option anyways but if you can block 3 full combos from an oni then its totally viable.
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>>335711237

I like it. Reminds me of the weap durability bug on DaS PC. Always had to bring multiple weapons and save the best weapons for hard encounters.
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is there something after nue?
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>>335711430
This is how i felt when i beat the fucking boat nigger.
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So I played it, for like an hour, and at first I was a bit mixed. I kept getting my ass kicked mostly because I couldn't get the flow of things and it just felt all around different. After maybe 30-40 minutes however, I got it down and it seemed pretty fun. I like the feel in terms of the setting, killing things is satisfying, and it has this creepy vibe to it. Definitely considering picking it up.

There are a few things I'm a bit mixed about.
Mostly the online aspect. I know the whole pvp situation is optional, but does that change if you summon a partner? I remember seeing in a thread that bosses get a massive health buff if you do choose to summon, but are there any other drawbacks?
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My elixirs stopped appearing in my inventory. Do you not get 3 of them everytime you spawn? Is there some rule to it? Am I seriously going to have to farm for them now?
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>mfw cooping with another shark bro
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>>335711797
no you can just replay it and do coop etc. its just a demo, most would have ended after the first oni.
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>>335711658
Geralt embraced his inner weeb and traveled to Japan.
His boat sunk off the coast of glorious Nippon and he has amnesia again.
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I think the game is challenging, but not actually difficult. Enemies have all these shitty fucking grabs. Moves dont connect. Enemies can dodge one perfect frame timing. The enemies seem to have lots of stamina for god like combos that will fuck your ass. The black circles that stop your stamina regen are bullshit, easy to get rid of but extremely annoying. The dodge mechanics kind of suck. They either work fine, or dont at all. Enemies have to much "poise" and you seem to have none.

The list goes on.

If they balance the game more it would be great. But it just isnt hard now, just very frustrating.

I made it to the 2nd boss and I just dont give a shit about trying to kill him because I just find the game so... stupid.
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>>335711824
I did coop 8 times and did not notice any health buff to bosses actually. There is no pvp in the demo and what exactly is supposed to change when you do coop? Try being less vague.
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>Mark of the Conqueror
free dlc?
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This game will get destroyed by journalist over the difficulty. Journos are casual as fuck.
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>>335712004
git gud
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>>335706248
you've lived long enough to see souls casuals fan base
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I really hope they add ninja fighting styles and unarmed combat
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>>335712079

Free DLC. Is probably some extra weapons.
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>>335711604
But when you make it so weapons break this easily it effectively makes players not want to do side paths or optional stuff because they don't want to lose the weapons they're familiar with.

Really all they need to do is let you spend XP to repair it at a shrine just like Dark souls did. Otherwise there's no reason to have it.

>>335711621
What part of "First part of the game" do you not understand? We're talking about the very opening levels and enemies because that tends to be what people are complaining about. Once you get some levels and better gear it's not so bad but in those first areas, you don't have that shit yet. And a lot of the people on forums screaming bullshit are the ones that died like 4 times to the first or second guys and just gave up.
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>>335712047
The red summon spots aren't pvp? I'm assuming they just summon some player to fight then?

In terms of change, I mean does the difficulty increase in some way if you do co-op.
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so what is this? a souls clone?
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>>335712004
you are wrong, you can stunlock any enemy easily. you can counter black circles with your own magic. enemies run out of stamina after a few hits. I can provide video proof if you do not believe this. Enemies also have almost no poise unless they are heavies.
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>>335712004
>Its challenging but not difficult because i dislike it

Fuck off its hard even if you don't like it. Not everyone likes every kind of challenge. Not that i'm disagreeing with the games polish but your philosophy on difficulty is retarded.

>>335712079
It wasn't free you earned it nigger.
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How long until the fourth Shrine? Seems like it's been forever since the third one.
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>>335706138
Is this the new meme souls?
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>>335712307

Fourth shrine is on the second level after the boat boss.
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>>335712235
its AI controlled player characters. If you summon one and quickly move away they stand their for 1 minute and then simply disappear.

I did not notice any change in difficulty in coop. Can solo nue myself in a two man coop with one spirit animal.
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How much of this is still based on the Akira Kurosawa script?
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>>335712385
Alright, that's certainly good to know. I guess I'll have to check it out next time I play.
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>>335712307
there is a shortcut back to the third after the burning village on the beach.
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What exactly does living weapon do? They tell you how to perform it but nothing about what it is.
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YES, FINALLY, I beat Ogre9000. I got the dlc, do I get anything else if I keep going? Not that it matters, I'm gonna play the shit outta this until the deadline anyway.
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>>335711825
pls respond
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I'm pleasantly surprised with the game played like 4-5 hours straight last night, I kinda hate the way its impossible to outrun certain enemies and those little tongue fuckers piss me the fuck off, I really enjoy the whole idea of the different stances and the pros and cons each provide
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>>335711108
>The more weight you have the more stamina you will take when dodging

Oh

Alright I will keep that in mind
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>>335712223
I know what you're saying

It's the typical "gamer"
If the game doesn't hold their hand or show them the way they give up
"Because it's not fun"


The days of self discovery are over.

I'm sick of every game opening with a 10-30 minute tutorial showing me every ins and out of the game.

Like holy shit if I move the left stick my character will move....no way!!
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When the hell is Nioh even releasing? Also does changing the game from movie to action mode make a huge difference? Are we talking a jump from 30fps to 60fps in exchange for shittier resolution? I didn't notice any framrate issues in movie mode except for far off enemies having choppy movements.
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>>335712483
how about trying it out yourself you mong? its just a special mode where you wreck shit and have unlimited stamina unless you get hit. can kill nue with it in 1 minute.
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>>335706476

Axe high stance

It's how I've always played games of this type. Gimme something that's slow but does an assload of damage at once, then I run about like an asshole for five minutes looking for an opening.
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So is Mark of the Conqueror going to only be available to people who beat the demo or will plebs be able to buy it for 2 bucks in the future?
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How did you lads beat the boat boss? I've tried hugging him from behind and slicing him up but it takes fucking forever to reduce his health and he can 2 shot or even 1 shot me with next to no effort
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>>335712532
you have to farm them, no shop in the demo, its just an alpha.

>>335712518
you only get one dlc out of this alpha. you get fun for beating the 2nd level.
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>>335712632
Knowing Koei its gonna be on sale later
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just beat the nue, only took about 5 tries
it seemed almost impossible at first but turned out not to be that hard
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>>335706248
What the fuck is wrong with the souls fans? No fan base is so fast with "artificial difficulty". Even with Salt & Sanctuary there was this shit.
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>>335712384

Fuck

Thanks
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>>335712682
hit hit hit, dodge dodge..wait for his combo to end...rinse and repeat. stay on light weight gear.
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>>335712798

Dark Souls went mainstream and attracted all the retards.
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>>335711563
Do it
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>>335712825
see >>335712479
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>>335712798
PC souls fans.

As someone who played all the souls games I think it's because they're marketed as hard when they're really not. Souls games kill you a lot easier than other games, sure, but death generally means very little and you can retry as much as you want.

hell, ni-oh's thing with weapon durability is more punishing because you can't repair them easily and the damage holds over across deaths.
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Just started playing but what the fuck. Everything kills you in one-two hits. Going up agaisnt the first 3 enemies a hundred times just to learn the controls and get a feel for the combat is not my idea of fun.

Call me a souls casual or whatever.
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>>335711237
they want dieabla loots
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>>335712926
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Mid stance has good defense
High Stance has really high burst damage
But what's low stance good for? It's attacks aren't really that much faster than mid stance and seem to do a lot less damage. I have unlocked a whole lot in low stance other than that forward+X offensive dodge followup. Is it supposed to be about being really mobile? If it is then IDK if I'm just horrible with the stance or what but I feel like it's overall just a shittier mid stance.
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>>335712934

Must have missed it. Thanks for the heads up.
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>>335712682
You can just walk around him for most of his attacks. Get in a few hits with high stance on his back then jump the fuck out before he does his spin move. Rinse and repeat until the second phase.

For the second phase hes gonna walk to his balls to pick them up and throw them at you. If you go up right next to him while hes throwing it he can't hit you, which allows you to get some hits in. Its really not that hard of a boss.
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>>335713028
In low you get sick dodges and teleports to behind enemies
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