Dark Souls 3 Update 1.04
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>Item collection during multiplayer while accessing NPC and Covenant Alter is now working as intended.
>Conditions for optional events is eased.
>Conditions to get Rosaria’s Finger is eased.
>If they haven’t visited the Untended Grave, players will not be teleported there.
>Kicks cannot be parried.
>The Crystal Sage will appropriately re-appear even after he has warped.
>The Dragonslayer Armour won’t die before the battle.
>Knight Slayer Tsorig will no longer gesture unintendedly.
>Siegward of Catarina will now be able to properly rescue Greirat once conditions are met.
>If the player is equipped with a ring that increases Max HP, stats will now be properly reflected when opening the equipment screen.
>The voice chat icon will now be displayed properly under the covenant panel.
>Items, bonfire and the “Quit Game” option are now appropriately active even when disconnecting online.
>If the game disconnects during a multiplayer session, it will no longer crash and return to the title screen.
>Adjustments of the balance of game, improvements of performance and various flaws have been made.
Is this the nerf to the dark sword and estoc that we have been waiting for?
>still no pop-in fix
fuck everything
>Poise still off
Unintentional or not, how do you fuck up this bad
Thanks for the list of reasons not to buy the game
>>335685646
>Is this the nerf to the dark sword and estoc that we have been waiting for?
Where?
>>335685646
>Magic nerfed again
AHAHAHAHA
>>335686457
Poise as it was in ds1 was a shit mechanic that only encouraged spam and greatly favored light weapons. With poise gone, heavy weapons have been giving a shitload of hyper armor in exchange.
>>335686669
>>335686392
>>335685646
wtf is wrong with you ppl..are you reading more than i ???
no mention of weapons or magic...various improvments of performance and various flaws can mean "pop up" retardness to the max
why are fromsoft so shit at releasing patch notes, everything is so vague
>>335686776
>adjustments to the balance of the game
They're not telling us exactly what, but some things are nerfed/buffed.
>>335686860
seems appropriate
>>335686776
Regulation Patch notes 1.06 are out on Steam you faggot.
Adjustment to some covenant matchmaking level, Nerfs to Straightsword, buffs to Twinswords, nerfs to magic.
>>335685646
>Adjustments of the balance of game:
Regulation Ver 1.06
The range of the matching level of the Blade of the Darkmoon and the Blue Sentinels have been adjusted.
The efficiency of the following categories has been adjusted: Short Sword, Twinsword and Magic.
Other game balance improvement and bug fixes.
>>335686960
Just says adjustments being made, no where does it say what gets buffed and nerfed.
>>335686973
>>335686960
>Adjustment to some covenant matchmaking level
>nobody uses way of the blue
FROM
>>335686960
>nerfs to magic
Holy Christ are you serious? I don't believe you. No way. They can't be nerfing magic even after it's been beaten into the fucking ground like it has.
>>335686973
>and Magic
So it'll become stronger or weaker? I get mixed feedback about Magic being OP or shit.
>>335685646
>Knight Slayer Tsorig will no longer gesture unintendedly.
why
>If the player is equipped with a ring that increases Max HP, stats will now be properly reflected when opening the equipment screen.
Great, now we only need they change this for rings that level up other stats so we can see them in the leveling up menu properly.
>>335687205
>>Knight Slayer Tsorig will no longer gesture unintendedly.
>why
He'll still gesture after killing you, just not gesture mid fight. He did in my first playthrough which is the only way I managed to kill him. I'm probably fucked for NG+.
>>335687163
Pyromancy (Great chaos fireorb/Chaos bed vestinges) and Soul Stream/CSS are broken and being nerfed.
>>335687115
>nobody uses it
my 200+ invasions at sl 100 disagree half the time the fuck gets a blue sent and darkmoon when I'm not even a fucking finger.
>people think Estoc is what's getting nerfed
bro anything with a god damn lightning enchant stuns the shit out of you, it doesn't matter.
Estoc doesn't do much damage, if you can't survive it and get a parry off you are seriously garbage.i switched to Irithyl Rapier for dat thrust
>>335686960
Magic blows nuts as is, and is hardly viable, with its only saving grace that at 60int with rings makes it powerful. Shit in pvp, slow as fuck, no hyper armor, almost all the spells have limited range, limited range of magic weapons.
>>335685646
>improvements of performance and various flaws have been made.
PC player here. I hope From isn't just tugging at my heart strings.
>>335687264
So they're going to nerf the only viable spells.
Greeeeeeat.
>>335687264
Oh my God. RIP magic in Souls.
Holy shit, Miyazaki must have been molested by a stage magician in his youth, because there's no other reason for him to hate magic so much.
>Magic nerfed
>Estoc untouched
A-team people.
Ok so basically they are nerfing the only decent performing weapons and magic instead of buffing everything else so everything is shittier now.
>>335687381
what are you on about, magic in DkS1 is straight up retardedly broken
>magic getting nerfed
good you little fragile wizzards are the healers of dark souls
know your place
If magic is getting nerfed i'll keep myself in this patch. I'm doing a wizard run.
>>335687465
It was broken in PvE, useless in PvP.
>>335687305
Finally someone who gets it. If you can't defeat an estoc/darksword player you should either git gud or uninstall.
>mfw everything but katanas and straight/thrust swords is shit in pvp
>>335687553
Well, a full blown hit from Dark Bead will fuck someone up, and Affinity did hurt if it connected.
>No poise
>Ganksquads
>R1 spam pvp
Would ask for a refund if I could
still no fix for darkmoon blade and blue sentinels? They still only work with one covenant. they should really fix that.
I want Greatswords to be buffed or at least changed to make them worth using. You either use a straight or a ugs right now, my claymore feels pointless.
>>335685646
>Conditions to get Rosaria’s Finger is eased.
What does that mean ?
>>335687595
>He doesn't use a fuckhueg weapon and go for trades
Greataxes are secretly OP as fuck, dude.
I want to throw lightning spears at people but apparently they're shit.
>>335687584
>>335687305
t.estoc user
>>335687714
They made her more slutty
>we balanced stuff
>we adjusted some stuff
>we changed some stuff
fucking kek
Well done. They actually broke firelink shrine by having it all load at once instead of the fog wall. Well fucking done From.
>>335687595
Greataxes and some UGS are pretty strong. They mainly rely on your opponent making mistakes though.
>>335687747
>40 vit
jesus fucking christ you must tank hits like a god damn fortress
>>335687714
My guess is they nerfed the rafter knights.
>>335687792
Well ofcourse, it's my favourite weapon.
Git gud plebian greatsword user.
>>335687796
Anon please...
>>335687705
Yeah, I'm getting that feeling with the Sword of Judgement as well. Greatswords feel like a really bad compromise between UGS and shortswords, in that they have damage comparable to shortswords, minimal hyper armor, slow speed, and questionable range.
>>335687843
You mean the worms ? Seriously ?
>>335687780
Faith builds are more for making a lightning weapon and using Tears of Denial than using miraces offensively.
>>335687840
Oh, it's the best.
I can trade hits 1 for 1 with bosses in NG+ and still outlast them.
>>335687595
Greataxes are nuts. If your opponent fucks up they're screwed, and you can pressure/bait them into fucking up a fair amount
>>335687963
There's a cathedral knight above the platform to get down that does nothing but spam an overhead double hit that one shots you without recovery. I don't think you can parry it, I never tried to actually fight the guy, but I'm assuming his damage was nerfed or he has recovery after using that move now.
>>335687747
Nice build you have there m8.
>>335688028
>40 end
>>335687963
Not the worms. If you go to Cathedral before a certain point in the game, Patches won't be there to have raised the bridge to where Rosaria is. In that case you have to use an elevator coming from the ground level (across from the entrance to the pit where the giants are) to go up a tower where you get the Dark Ring, dropping down to a buttress and then going through the rafters. The rafters are narrow and have a couple of cathedral knights (greatsword and crossbow) who are notorious for being dicks.
>>335687262
Is that the guy in Smouldering Lake? I just forced the fucker into lava then killed him
>>335685646
>>Conditions for optional events is eased.
>>Conditions to get Rosaria’s Finger is eased.
These interest me the most.
I hate not being able to join Rosaria's Fingers until after I defeat the Twin Princes just so I don't piss off Sirris even after she swears fealty to me, also the conditions for getting a lot of items in this game are fucking annoying, I missed getting Creighton's set on my main and it still pisses me off even now.
>>335688109
Oh. THEM. Yeah I get it now, yeah why not
>>335687913
I mean I'm still using my Claymore but I'm thinking of trying out the Zwei or something.
>>335688121
>Swing three times with a Greataxe
>Still have stamina left
>>335687671
Poise is good, now we have hyperarmor instead which is a way better mechanic
>R1 Spam PVP
Are you retarded? If you lose to a R1 spammer you're just fucking bad.
>>335687451
>Only decent performing weapons
Take a straight sword to PVP and see where that will get youIt won't get you anywhere unless you're fighting retards
>>335688132
You can join the fingers without Sirris as long as you do not give her any tongues or respec.
>>335687995
How is blessed weapon?
>>335688127
But patches takes the bridge down when you try to cross anyway ? I died before getting back to him and had to take the detour with those faggots knights so I thought it was the default route
>>335686457
I don't understand why people want poise back
Especially the heavy weapon users who seem to want it confuse me
Did you not play any PvP in DaS1?
>>335687553
>I never played Dark Souls!
Did they fix backstabs in PvP? At least in DaS2 you had to roll if you wanted to escape it, in this one you can literally just fucking walk out of it.
>Still not deprioritizing invading into groups
>No clear weapon nerfs/buffs
Shit patch will not come back.
>>335687995
Not true at all at with 60 faith you will fuck everything with sunlight spear. You can also get up to 600 ap with sacred oath and darkmoon blade/lightning blade.
Does the menu finally show your real time attack stats like it was in DS1? For example, when you 2 hand a weapon and it shows your increased damage
>>335688246
Why the fuck would I even care about joining Rosaria's Fingers if it wasn't to give her tongues or respec?
>>335687115
Quite the contrary.
Everybody uses the goddamn covenant.
And sometimes I think everybody uses the way of the blue as well, because 8 out of 10 people I invade as a red will get a blue summoned if there is room. Like, the instant I kill one of the host's sunbros, I count to ten, and the blue gets summoned.
I guess that the blues population is so massive that there are simply not enough way of the babies getting invaded at once.
>>335688197
>Swing three times with a Greataxe
I still don't get it
>>335688246
Will this allow me to get that gesture on the same playthrough as Sirris's ring or do I still have to do another playthrough for that?
>>335687262
>only way I managed to kill him
Throw alluring skull to lava
Watch him die
>>335688281
You can buy the belltower key and actually bypass Patches by going up the belltower. Bridge will stay raised.
>>335688337
Do you need Obscuring ring that early?
>>335687747
>use a great axe
>don't hit very often but when I do they panic because I ate most of their health in one blow
>Warcry'd R2
>>335688197
If those swings can be parried you best prepare your anus for a hornet ring riposte.
>>335688368
Oh ok didn't know that. Thanks. The cunt won't get me this time
>>335688363
It will. You will miss out on Yellowfinger's gesture though. You can't get both.
>tfw they will never buff ultra greatswords
>tfw they will always be in the shadow of greathammers and greataxes
>tfw FUG was the only one that was on their level and it got nerfed to the ground
JUSTAt least they're not greatswords
>>335688352
Here's an example of how that's useful.
>PvP
>I swing and miss
>I continue swinging a second time and miss
Now, 1 of two things can happen.
>He tries to punish my misses and gets hit by the 3rd strike
or
>He doesn't try to punish my misses and waits until I miss the 3rd strike as well
In the 2nd case, I'd be pretty screwed if I didn't have any stamina left.
It's just a nice safety net.
How much dex would you guys reccommend for a pure strength build if I still wanted to use some greatswords/UGS? Am I better off just going quality if I want to use them?
>>335688321
That's not a lot.
>>335688457
Hello fellow Greataxe bro
How are you enjoying baiting people with R1 only to follow into R2 for their entire health bar
>>335688513
>Astora Greatsword will forever be amazing
>>335688463
Isn't it that greataxes, great hammers and ultra class greatswords are unparryable when 2-handed?
>>335688197
It's still a waste
I'm an Astora Greatsword user, and I keep my Endurance at 30 because with the ring of Favor and Protection I can swing my sword three times and then literally have 1 stamina point left with which I can swing for that magic 4th hit or roll away.
Adding another 10 points would not get me another hit, so it's fucking worthless.
I guess it would help me double roll out of the way, but I haven't been in a situation where I hit someone twice with my Greatsword and then had them keep pressure on me like that.
>>335688496
Not him but wow the conditions to get emotes and items suck. About the ring trophy, do the ng+ versions count for the ng version or do you need to get every playthrough version ?
>>335688439
If people are going to Rosaria then it's because they want to respec their points.
I had to put my INT up to 10 on my Cleric because otherwise the Sorcerer wouldn't speak with me to come back to Firelink; and I needed him because he's one of Yuria's assassination targets, without which you can't get the Morion Blade.
Call me when they fix the godawful performance
>>335688496
Dammit, that's actually the gesture I was talking about. I managed to join the Fingers right after I beat the Abyss Watchers on my first playthrough, so it was the perfect time to screw me out of the gesture and ring.
>>335688586
>ultra greatsword
I was talking about straight swords mate while you do 1 hit I did 3.
>>335688592
It's the FUG of greatswords. Such a thing won't last my friend. Prepare to get your shit fucked.
>>335688576
You can literally almost OS people with the L2 of your axe, why waste so many points in end when you could just manage it better ?
>>335688613
Only with the heavy attack.
>>335688640
You need to get every single ring, including the NG+ and NG++ ones. ex. you'll need Wolf Ring, Wolf Ring+1, and Wolf Ring +2.
Each ring appears on a specific NG or higher so you don't have to worry about missing an NG ring if you move on to NG+ or something like that.
>>335688640
You need all versions of all rings. That means beating Nameless king on NG++, Champion on NG+++ and having fun with the wolf covenant.
>>335688613
I'm pretty sure you can parry some of their attacks still. UGS r1s seem parriable generally.
>>335688679
>Update
>mfw I did the same
I beat cristal sage after the abyss watchers. Jesus we're in for until ng++ my friend
any improvement on performance?
>>335688586
What are your stats. I've hears that Astora greatsword has an A in Int and faith, so it's great for dark magic users and pyromancers?
>>335688636
There's not really anything I'd want to put it into.
>VIG
Minor HP increase
>ATT
Completely pointless for my build
>VIT
Already have enough to equip what I want
>STR
Increase in damage would be pathetic
>DEX
See "STR"
>INT
Pointless
>FAI
Pathetic increase in damage and access to Miracles I don't care about
>LCK
Pffft
>>335687381
In Demon's Souls magic was absurdly powerful and incredibly easy to build even from the very beginning.
i hope they fix the weird framedrops when fiddling with equipment or picking up something
>>335688740
>>335688767
Oh ok so for example I missed the wolf ring on NG so I'll get it on NG+ right ?
Jesus I don't think I'll plat this game, it's just plain dumb
>No blue eye orb added.
>>335688903
If you miss a ring that you find somewhere in the world in NG, it will appear in NG+ and onward. NG+ rings will also appear in NG++ and so on and so forth. It's a pretty grueling platinum, but its mostly the concord/swordgrass grinding that's tedious, finding rings will be cake after you spend all that time grinding.
>>335685646
>no weapon rebalance
So it is still completely pointless use anythings that isn't the longsword/dark sword?
>>335686960
>buff to twinswords
If that includes Gothhardt's I'm fucking set. I seriously doubt they're buffing twinswords instead of nerfing them though, as most of them can combo an L1 into L2 R2.
>>335688943
>Make Sentinels auto-defenders
>Make Darkmoon invaders to those who commit sin
And there, the two groups are now different.
Did they fucking fixed fog wall before Dancer?
>>335689058
yes and it will always be like that because poise is broken
>>335688817
40/40 int/faith and buffs out the ass. It's not really worth looking at UGS for pure damage. Unbuffed with no shenanigans it's only like 679 AR, while a chaos straight sword on the same stats is ~530. It's only really good for the hyper-armor and weapon art. Might be more appealing after straight swords take a hit in the patch.
>>335688127
Those guys are even worse as navigating the rafters than the player is.
>>335688860
Just put more into faith and attunement so you can get more access to buffs/tears of denial.
Even if you think that's a paltry thing to spec in, it's still less useless than 10 points of endurance being wasted on literally nothing.
>Conditions to get Rosaria’s Finger is eased.
What's this supposed to mean? All you have to do is walk up to her.
>>335687584
Dark sword isn't so bad, but estoc is tough shit if they aren't horrible. Might just be that I am slow, but I can't reaction parry and estoc. Nor katana running attacks, it just turns into a guessing game and I'm not great at gambling.
I'd much rather go up against a dark sword than an ultra weapon with some reach though, that shit is scary. The dark sword is just a regular longsword with a tiny bit more damage and deceptively long range.
>>335688817
Chaos: A/A
Lightning: S
Dark: A/A
Crystal: S
Refined: B/B
take your pick
>>335689197
>Buffs
My Weapon of choice is unbuffable
>Tears
I have exactly enough ATT and FAI to cast that as is
>>335688132
>>>Conditions for optional events is eased.
I wonder if this means that finally get to see the patches in the cathedral event that has evaded me so far.
>>335687838
>>335687747
I don't consider the axes that scary. Usually you can just be patient and poke away without committing. The UGS though, holy shit. Can't do anything without risking getting chunked for more than half your health.
>>335688903
Get Gud
>>335685646
>DISCONNECT DOESN'T RETURN TO TITLE SCREEN
Fucking finally, jeez, after Xbox Live fucking up two weekends in a row.
>>335686457
I'd only welcome poise back if small weapons gave you negative poise
>>335689148
This, they're the painting guardians 2.0. Just stand close to them at an intersection and they'll try to swing, stepping forward during the attack and plummeting to their death.
Also works to lure the black knight down to Tsorig in smoldering lake, though not as reliably as the black knights are a little more varied in their attacks.
>>335688127
You dingus just piss them off and run around the rafters. They will fall off.
>>335686960
>The efficiency of the following categories has been adjusted: Short Sword, Twinsword and Magic.
>>335689261
Yeah running katana attacks are the worst for me. A tip is using either the buckler shield or caestus to parry. Buckler feels more like DaS parrying and caestus is kind of hidden + fast.
Estoc is kind of easy to parry, you just have to parry on their first attack or take a chance in the middle of their R1 spam. I'd suggest just trying to parry the first attack and if you fail just try to roll out and try again.
>>335689005
Yeah except way of the blue is fucked so getting the items of the covenant is gonna be a pain in the ass too. Nah forcing the ng++ on people is stupid
>>335689489
>10 VIT theme-build character
>summoning phantoms and burning through tons of embers trying to clear Dragonslayer Armor, who is being a cunt due to his low-downtime between attacks
>finally get a phantom that isn't retarded and can actually get through the fucking fog door
>Kill the boss
>Right as the last attack lands: Error- Disconnected from the Dark Souls 3 game server. Now returning to the title screen
>>335689728
>having to summon phantoms multiple times because shit
good
>>335689078
How does this fix anything? Sinners would be anyone that invade, so blue sents would only defend people from first time invaders?
>>335688767
You don't need to beat champion on ng+++. Every ring is doable by ng++
>>335689806
Oh you are right, I just assumed it was so since the life ring has a +++ version.
>>335689234
Yes, walk up to her after taking the elevator in the shortcut that leads to the roofs containing several assassins, hollows, and knights; drop down on the hidden platform below; and finally walk through a rain of mangrubs.
Are you dense?
>>335685646
did it fix the stuttering
>everyone screaming and crying that magic is gonna be nerfed
NOWHERE does it say it will be nerfed, it might as well be a buff. Jesus christ you guys are completely retarded.
>>335689785
Sentinels fight against red phantoms, but not sinner hosts
Darkmoon fight sinners hosts, but not red phantoms
Not necessarily fix, but differentiates the two groups, as FROM seems incessant to keep them, even though they are both, right now, the exact same covenant.
Possibly for active defending, maybe make it so that Blue Sentinels can also actively defend against those who are also blue sentinels and darkmoon, so it's not way of the blue BS.
>>335689728
>invade
>host and 2 phantoms are fighting fellow furry of farron
>run over to the fight
>host immediately disconnects
>>335689148
This. They always fall off of the rafters. When they don't, I just kite them to where the other 2handing knight was. People actually had trouble with this? I'm a garbage player and this wasn't hard.
>>335689710
I am using Gotthardt/caestus off. Thinking of switching to rapier off since it's not as obvious. Do you know if it's similarly fast? Because I'm loving the caestus parry so far.
>>335689710
I wish there was data on which parry option is the best. I've been running with parrying dagger but I might try the power fist because it might be less obvious.
>>335690080
Try it in PvE a bit so latency doesn't play any tricks on you. The caestus seems a lot quicker than small shields so far. Very little startup. But like a small shield, if you botch it you will pay the price.
>>335685646
>Crystal Sage he
>he
I thought it was a woman
>>335689990
You can speedrun to that location very easily. You're making it sound a lot harder than it is. You don't even have to kill most of the monsters in the way, especially the grubs since opening the covenant door makes you invincible and they don't follow inside. The covenant barely even does anything. And do you think they're gonna design a whole new area or something to house her?
>>335689081
Fuck it
I beat her even when my summons disconect because they can't go in
Fuck this boss but i kicked her ass and was happy... Then i killed crazy dragon king at my 2nd try
>>335689065
They're buffing swords that are already really strong desu and nerfing the only magic spells worth using.
I think From have lost their mind, is it April 1st again already? Is April 1st on a different day for Japan like new years for China?
>>335687747
I'm doing a dex/faith in ng+3 and everything 2 shots me in shitty armor holy shit, im stealing your build
>>335690053
Never tried it, but from the looks of it it seems to be the same parry as the parrying dagger.
>>335688585
Don't even admit you level it up
I've been playing these games since DeS and I still don't know what 'Hyper Armor' is.
>>335688364
VENGEANCE WILL BE MINE TSORIG!
>>335689234
Despite the line about optional events also being eased, I'm thinking it's an imperfect way of saying that Sirris won't be so easily angered, because this >>335689990 is fine as is. Red Covenants have always been somewhat challenging to get to, even if it's gotten progressively easier with each game; even if you don't even need to join to get the uncracked Eye Orb.
>tfw you and Cr1tikal invade together as Aldrich Faithfuls
>>335685646
What is it with this game and it's massive fucking hard-on for faith builds? jfc
>>335690545
a meme
>>335690434
Go right ahead, it's a really fun one.
>>335688613
yea the r2, still you can do like 3 R2 with 40 end
>>335690545
That's because it was only added in the last 2 games.
>>335690545
Common term in many games. Means the actions you do are uninterruptable.
>>335690367
I'm not even saying it's hard, but it's hardly "walking up to her" which is what you spewed out of your mouth.
And it is fairly easy to miss the drop down point.
>>335690404
Except it doesn't say what is being nerfed or buffed. It is says efficiency of those categories is being adjusted. They could simply be buffing miracles and touching nothing else. They might be just adjusting FP values.
So online still buggy as shit? That's all I care about, the rest of these "fixes" seem pretty detrimental to me
>>335685646
>online de-sync hasn't been sorted
I really shouldn't be expecting them to do it.
>>335690679
>I have never played Demon Souls.
>>335690689
Hyper Armor is when you take no damage. When your actions are uninterruptable it's called Super Armor
>you can sip literally point blank against an invader and not get punished with more than one poke
QUALITY
>>335687264
Pyromancer here
I can confirm this nerf is needed. My fireballs do my more than my dagger ripostes.
>>335690545
It's a period of time during an action, usually an attack, where your character will absorb attacks rather and continue his action rather than be knocked out of it.
Equip a Greataxe and charge it's Warcry R2 fully. If you time it right, you'll be able to absorb a few hits and still land your attack.
Think of it like having infinite poise for a brief moment of time.
>still no increased drop rate on covenant items
Looks like I'll never get all the trophies boys
>>335689990
>Yes, walk up to her after scaling a ladder that takes a bare modicum of inquisitiveness, taking a stroll across rafters the breadth of three large men, juking a goon or two and finally dealing with a bunch of enemies with as much clout as a bowl of sentient porridge
None of that shit needs to be removed.
There goes my magic character I wanted to fucking make. Cant you gook fucks adjust the damage lightning bolt does above pitiful?
>>335687264
nerf soul stream how? that shit can't track, rip magic
>>335690624
I thought he was playing on professor sad or something now
>Still impossible to find a weapon with more than a C scaling
>Still no Dark weapons
>Still impossible to do anything about R1 spam with straight weapons
>Hyper armor still in the game instead of poise.
>Blues can still be hurt by world enemies.
>All three blue covenants still havent been merged into one.
wew lad
>>335690545
A section of your attack frames that ignores stun, though not damage.
>>335690717
>From fixing their borked online
>>335690692
>>335691082
It's almost as if challenge and discovery is part of this game or something. At this point, I think you're arguing just to argue.
Oh baby I hope they enlarged the hitbox on muh Guts sword and buffed its unusable weapon skills. Attack speed up would also be welcome since poise doesn't mean dick now and I get staggered every time someone dickslaps me mid-swing. They should have another patch that puts the Abyss watcher cape on all armor sets.
>>335691270
>poise is good meme
give me ONE reason
>>335691410
Fuck off DS2 fanboy
>>335691410
It gives armors and an entire stat a reason to exist while also helping slower weapons
>>335685646
From nerf DEX pls
>>335690692
None of it's any harder than McDonnell's Crocdogs, even if you fight them separately. Let's remove those too.
>>335690692
>And it is fairly easy to miss the drop down point.
Do you enjoy taking imbeciles into consideration? Have you recently recovered from a stroke?
>>335691518
>the best stat across 4 games
>getting nerfed ever
>>335691508
hold up, how the fuck does giving everyone poise help slow weapons? Are you an idiot?
the way it is right now only heavy weapons benefit from hyper armor, which I assure you is better than straight swords being unflinchable
>>335688860
NO, YOU WILL ADJUST YOUR BUILD THE WAY I WANT YOU TO, OTHERWISE IT'S JUST WRONG, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT
>>335691508
surely light weapons will benefit more from an overall poise stat because they can afford to wear heavier armor
do you even know what hyper armor does
>>335685646
it just me or when i'm in Lothric Castle the fps goes down?
Whats the best sheild?
Also fuck these goatmen pyromancer fags in smouldering lake
>>335691508
Poise does the exact opposite of helping slow weapons YOU FUCKING RETARDS
YOU FUCKING DIPSHITS DIDNT EVEN PLAY DARK SOULS 1
IF YOU SWING YOUR HEAVY WEAPON IN A GAME WITH POISE YOU WILL GET BACKSTABBED 100% OF THE TIME, NO QUESTION
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK EVERY BUILD IN DAS1 JUST STACKED POISE? POISE LITERALLY RENDERS HEAVY WEAPONS BEYOND USELESS
why the fuck do you assholes act like you know how these games work?
>>335691638
>big guy with big weapon gets trapped in a longsword blender gangbang
>can't do anything because he can't rev up his big sword fast enough to cleave their assholes
>>335691346
Are you thick? Did you even read the first sentence where I clearly said I wasn't complaining about difficulty? I was pointing out how fucking stupid "you just walk up to her" was.
I don't even think it needs to be changed because hidden shit is fun and anyone who gives a shit has googled it by now, but don't lie to me by saying it's obvious where to go or that it's even there. The entire design of the roof area takes you to the back of the room, you fight some items, and a new player would assume that was the reason he went up there.
>>335691729
Hyper armor needs to be buffed anyway, it doesn't work half the time
>>335688314
>another red crying about being ganked
i swear to god these never get old
>>335691596
With every new entry the series has attracted more people and become more casual.
Yet here you are. Complaining on a Vietnamese surfing board about a patch note that says "easing requirements to join covenant."
You kill me anon.
>>335691848
You fight some knights and collect some items, even.
>>335691596
>Let's remove those too.
I know you're joking, but FUCK those crocdogs.
>>335685646
man i just finished the game with vordt's great hammer
FUCKING PUT IN SOME WEAPONS PEOPLE WANT TO USE YOU TARDS
>>335691823
>big guy with big weapon doesn't give himself enough distance to get hit midswing maximum
>this is somehow the games fault
Not only that but a lot of r2 two handed attacks start hyper armor super early, to let your dumb ass absorb all that damage with your face
>>335691410
Because medium armour is pointless beyond fashion.
>>335691638
>how the fuck does giving everyone poise help slow weapons?
Because then someone in heavy armour with a heavy weapon has the chance to wind up.
>>335691508
Its called defence
But hey, guess what, high defence armors just buff dex weapons and nerfs heavy weapons, just like how poise makes heavy weapons unplayable and buffs dex weapons
So did they fix the sword master bug? I've been making fresh characters and early killing dancer in case they patch it out.
>>335691923
Stephen quit being a faggot.
>>335691960
They have a chance to wind up now because of fucking hyper armor you dumb sack of shit. Bad players like you getting r1 spammed to death need to shut the fuck up about game mechanics
my fps is all fukt now
>>335690883
Why not just online for them?
>>335689412
>The UGS though, holy shit
Delaying R2s make people fuck up their rolls. Feels gud.
>>335691596
>None of it's any harder than McDonnell's Crocdogs, even if you fight them separately. Let's remove those too.
>Do you enjoy taking imbeciles into consideration? Have you recently recovered from a stroke?
>I'm not even saying it's hard
> I was pointing out how fucking stupid "you just walk up to her" was.
>I'm not even saying it's hard
> I was pointing out how fucking stupid "you just walk up to her" was.
How can I even respond to you when you have this strange disease that causes you to skip the first sentence of each post? How can any one man learn to read English without simultaneously learning to _understand_ English?
>>335692141
He mentioned trophies, make an educated guess.
>>335691817
Two handed UGS attacks did 76 poise in das1. All they need to do is make big weapons deal fuck huge amount of poise like 100 so that wouldn't happen.
Most people in das1 didn't stack poise that high. Only full havels wolf ringers could.
>>335692141
A lot of covenants are bugged. If you're not getting constant action, you'll get no action ever.
>>335691681
1v1 me on Dragon Barracks fgt
>>335691960
I guess we should reward bad players starting a heavy attack right infront of their opponent, that'd make for a fun game
hyper armor is great and you're silly if you think poise would in any way improve anything
No one BS'd in DS1 unless they were bad players or were fighting japs. Once the community figured out how shit worked, it just didn't happen
But keep crying about how much you love hyper armor. Its only proving how uneducated you are on the subject matter
>>335689412
Whats a UGS?
>>335691270
>>Still impossible to find a weapon with more than a C scaling
?
I'm in the road of sacrifices wielding a B/B quality sword anon, what are you doing?
>>335692273
ultra greatswords
>>335689412you can backstep away from the second swing of heavy weapons
>>335692120
>hyper armor
As a spear user I use to enjoy poking them as they miss their swings. Hyper armour stops that.
WHY ARE MIRACLES STILL UTTERLY FUCKING USELESS GOD DAMMIT
>60 in faith
>also need to invest in atunment
>use 3 THREE FUCKING RINGS that boost miracles
>throw a slow-ass great lightning spear with a +10 catalyst
>do the same damage of a single longsword hit
They were never good, but fuck, they are unusable this time around
>>335691848
>I was pointing out how fucking stupid "you just walk up to her" was.
So yeah, arguing just to argue. You've been told by other people that it should stay the same as well. You're not arguing for anything anymore, just arguing for arguing's sake. Arguing just because of a word choice. You may wish to have your autism checked out, anon. Even you said in yoru own words that difficulty isn't the problem and you said that "hidden shit is fun". So yes, you aren't arguing anything except word choice.
Watch this, I can be a pedantic non-arguer as well. It's easy.
>Yes, walk up to her after taking the elevator in the shortcut that leads to the roofs containing several assassins, hollows, and knights; drop down on the hidden platform below; and finally walk through a rain of mangrubs.
This quote clearly implies that getting to the area is a challenge and now you are backpedaling. Yet, you say challenge is good? And then you say newer players might miss it, but discovery is good and people can just look it up anyways? And now you don't think it needs to be changed? I'm not sure you know what you're typing anymore. Are you pretending to be retarded or what?
>>335692214
Man, within the context of a series of games that has always been centered around exploration, the short detour to Rosaria's chamber can be succinctly described as "you just walk up to her."
>keyboard controls are still fucked
nice dude nice i really like it nice dude nice
>>335692224
>No one stacked poise
Jesus christ man. You won, you broke me. Im just glad from will never listen to dipshits like you
>>335692358
you can poke them in windup, hell you can probably afford to poke them and roll away as they rev up their second swing
Best DS1 player in the world here
I liked poise
at least then we had a system where we knew what was going on --- now we have a stat and a handful of guesses of its effects. My guess is that poise is a multiplying factor of some sort for armor frames but who knows
Also, endurance and str should give a little bit of equip load on each level and vitality should give slightly more --- it takes 4 levels to nullify the weight of a bow or sidearm, that's a pretty steep investment compared to anything else. Though it is nice that people can't try to squeeze on havel's under fat roll but making it impossible short of lvl 300 might have been a bit much
>>335692415
Its balanced around going full caster or going full melee. You don't really get to have best of both worlds.
>>335692268
>No one BS'd in DS1 unless they were bad players or were fighting japs
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>335692482
This meme is old
Is the patch out now?
>>335692358
Oh man, a fucking spear user complaining about heavy weapons
What a joke this community is
>>335692531
>60 fth
Nigga I am full caster, it isn't balanced at all, it just sucks
>>335687840
Vit also has no diminishing returns so at 99 it'd be a fucking laugh. Seeing as passwords seem to delete soul level altogether with the joiner getting nerfed if they are a higher level I reckon there won't really be a soul level meta down the line. atm fight clubs are "12" on password, dunno about Co-op yet.
Did this already happened or what i thought i had 1.04 for like 2 weeks now
>>335687264
>nerfing the only viable spells
This is why nobody should listen to dex fags.
>>335692653
Dunno man, I'm getting 1200 damage on my fireballs.
Sounds like you'e holding the lightning the wrong way
>>335692415
You're better off just leveling it to 15 and then going dex/str/quality. 15 gets you med heal, status ailment cure, and poor mans second chance and then you got a 30 level difference to get the high level shit and any worthwhile damage, not really worth it
When will they need buffed rapier great shield turtling?
Because dead angles no longer exist, there is literally no counter for this.
>>335692531
Which leads into the first point he made about having 60 faith. From simply hates lightning spears. They are absolutely useless. Of course you'd expect a miracle to perform better if you go full caster, but that doesn't mean castrating the person who wants to supplement their arsenal with some lightning spears and in the process ruin it for everyone else.
>>335692528
>im a das1 player
>i liked a brain dead mechanic that required no thought and retroactivly made 80% of the weapons death sentences to swing
Seems about right
>>335692749
>I'm getting 1200 on the only spell that people agree is still good.
No shit. Why don't you go and try lightning spearing someone right now?
>>335692653
Magic is ok if you get both sorcery rings, magic clutch ring, dusk crown and scholar's candlestick in offhand
>1.04
Thought that released weeks ago?
>>335692749
the lightning is pretty underwhelming unless it's sunlight spear with a max talisman and booster rings
>>335692791
Is 18 fth worth it for the dragonslayer swordspear or is the weapon bad?
>>335692749
>fireballs
Well there you go. Miracles are useless, pyromancy is not. Most pyro spells don't even require stats.
Has anyone made a luck dominant class?
Never leveled that up and still got plenty items
>>335692802
there's a bunch of shield piercing arts, as well as arts that do ridiculous stamina damage
if you're a str build impact weapons also do unreal amounts of stamina damage
>>335692874
This is what im saying im so confused
I feel bad for faith fags. Their highest damaging spells are spears and all you have to do to dodge those is walk slightly to the side. Don't even have to roll. And it leaves you open for 10 years.
>>335692817
I think theyre just scared to death of people lightning spearing their way through the entire game so they undertune the spells to begin with
>>335692860
>Magic is ok if you use 3/4 rings slots, a head slot, and an arm slot on them
I'd expect it to be better than "ok" at that level of dedication.
>dark sword nerf
Boy I hope that's not true. I've been using that for PvE and I just made it to Anal Rodeo the other day. I'd hate to have to invest in another weapon and grind for another heavy gem.
>>335692932
Apparently you do it if you want a real challenge or have brain damage.
HOW TO FIX POISE
>bring back the DaS1 system
>make big weapons deal like 100 poise damage so they only way to not get insta stunned is to use heavy armor
>make fast small weapons like rapiers deal 0 poise damage
Bam. Where's my pay check, FROM?
>>335692925
It's pretty cool if you like spear/halberd hybrids.
>>335693008
that's assuming they lock onto you
which is a fucking travesty when using magic don't do it you chump
>>335692791
>poor mans second chance
This is truly sad. I miss DeS faith build. The regen gimmick was viable and fun
>>335693062
That's what he have right now?
>>335692860
>magic
But I was talking about miracles
>>335688314
I don't get the problem with that and I invade a lot. When you're invading you're literally not risking anything since you can get the full orb so early in the game. Seems fair that the odds would be against you. If you want fair PvP just use the red soapstone at one of the fight club areas.
People complaining about the Estoc are why it does less damage than the raiper for no reason.
>>335685646
DOES THE GAME STILL FUCKING STUTTER?
>>335693234
Yes
>>335693132
I would be very impressed if people could consistently land manually aimed bolts. Meanwhile, chaos balls make a planet-sized explosion.
>>335692925
swordspear's skill and moveset is pretty amazing but the damage is kinda underwhelming unless you're buffed up with the skill
I have both dragonslayer spears at +5 and ornsteins hits harder, has its impales back, and a lightning charge skill. Swordspear is a mix of spear and halberd and its L2 is the tighest shit ever but ornsteins is just kinda better imo
That being said the swordspear is far from being a bad weapon
How much does Luck effect Bleed? What's a good level to have it at?
>>335692932
Anri sword scales on luck as hollow weapons. Luck is useful for high bleeding build.
>>335688286
What if I don't care about PvP?
What if I just don't want to get staggered by the broken sword wielding hollows even with full Havel's?
>>335693275
I can't play it. Why won't they fix this issue?
>>335692925
>>335693284
Also, both spears benefit way more from dex than they do from faith so getting the 18 faith and leaving it alone is probably best until lvl 200+
>>335693180
Invasions in des heavily favored the invader. Das were close to equal but still favored the invader.
Then in Das 2, bb, and Das 3 the host heavily favors the host.
I miss des and das.
>>335687163
>>335687163
Magic is amazing in pve and you should learn how to build a character you shitter
>>335693350
Because From.
>>335693180
I just want to keep my souls on death as an invader. Don't give me a 5 minute "respawn time" for wanting to play multiplayer. The souls aren't even at risk, it's just busy work.
>>335688886
That's the game stuttering when it autosaves, which it does a lot.
>>335692894
>it's underwhelming unless you use proper gear
Are you for fucking real?
>>335693330
then stop walking up to hollows and then revving up a swing?
When are they going to make it so that being in the Blue covenant does something?
>>335693396
Thanks scrubs who couldn't dodge great combustion in undead burg now nobody gets to have invasion fun
>>335693396
It's for the best, that's one of the only way they can get the majority of people ot use embers
>>335693382
Thanks, one last question: is carthus flame a good buff for weapons like the astora GS?
>Watch normie friend play game
>He gets to Deacons.
>WOW THE FATTIES JUST EXPLODE EVERY TIME
>WOW I GET INSTA KILLED IF I DON'T KILL THE MAGE GUYS
>WOW THERES NOTHING I CAN DO HE'S SURROUNDED
>FUCK THIS IM SUMMONING
Is this how most people play the game? They identify whats causing them problems and instead of countering it they just call it bullshit?
>>335693524
Nigga learn to fucking read
I listed off the optimal loadout to emphasize the fact that unless you're going all in on faith then don't expect much from the damage spells
the only thing that bothers me, that is included in both bloodborne and DS2 is...
when buying armor and items there is NO way to know if you already own one of these items...or am i missing something?
picrelated
>>335692120
Almost none if any of the heavy weapons have hyper armor on wind up.
>>335693726
It tells you how much is in your invetory on the buy screen.
>>335693639
>the casualization of the series is for the best
You make me sick.
Just a quick question as a first time souls player, I just killed twin princes but I haven't killed the optional bosses yet, can I kill the end boss and then do the optional bosses after, or does it reset to new game after killing the last boss?
I haven't done much PvP because I don't care for it and I hate when it just becomes a rollfest and estus chugfest 75% of the time.
I only just beat the game yesterday and am now looking up all the stuff I missed. Is there any covenant like the royal rat covenant, or a covenant like the dueling one in DaS2? That was the only time I enjoyed PvP in a DaS game.
Also I stuck with broadsword throughout my playthrough and refined +10 BS was OP as fuck even for PvE, I upgraded the profaned greatsword almost all the way and it barely did more damage than my lightning fast swinging with the BS+10.
Straight swords honestly did need nerfing, but it felt good as shit to be able to rape everything in sight with them. The only let down was how pointless heavy weapons are for PvE.
>>335693524
>Melee just needs the damage stat and the weapon.
>Miracles require the talisman, 2-3 rings slots, 60 Faith, dex if you want cast speed, attunement if you want more than one spell and enough FP to cast more than twice and only then is it on par with melee damage.
No, are you for real?
>>335693693
I'm playing the game just so I can co-op with my buddies. I never even finished ds2 because of how fucking boring it was. Spent hours and hours play ds1 but now there just really isnt a point in trying to actually work at getting good.
It really isn't that great of a game.
>>335693820
it used to do that in dark souls 1, but hasn't done that since 2, you're free to kill the final boss there will be a NG+ prompt
>>335693693
If he actually figured the first part and went after the red light enemy without a guide or somone helping him, he is already above average.
Which is sad. Really really sad.
Are daggers still absolutely useless?
I really want to make a dick ass thief build that only has a dagger but the damage output is just so low.
>Every single weapon in the game staggers for an extra hit
Who really thought this was a good idea? It cuts down the viability of weapon in pvp by 90%
>Oh you're using a fast weapon? too bad it only hits twice put that whip away and pick up an UGS
>>335693686
It can't hurt, it's a straight elemental damage addition but I haven't used any pryo stuff yet so it might be stealth trash and i don't know
But a thing to think about is that people often have better fire resist than they do other elements so dark blade or magic weapon is probably slightly better for fighting other players
>>335693820
Not sure, you get the option to continue the current game or go to new game+. I would assume if you just continued it would let you backtrack and take on optional bosses but I can't say for sure.
>>335693797
Not him, but I don't see it. Not for gear, just consumables.
>>335690031
You think that's bad, I was summoned for the fucking wolf covenant after an hour of waiting because I'm one of the unlucky ones for which this covenant is busted.
I get in and it's just me and the host with two phantoms. I say fuck it and try to take them down anyway. Host is a little bitch and hides while I fight the two phantoms. I somehow manage to kill both of them with a little help from the giant crab.
Host books it back to bonfire to summon more help and when the first summon fails the faggot disconnects. For fucks sake.
>>335693904
Dickass thief's use estocs and a fist weapon to parry.
>>335693396
I think it's better the way it is now. I remember when I first started in DeS, I don't think I managed to kill a single invader for most of the game. I just didn't understand souls PvP at the time, and invaders are typically geared for PvP unlike the host. It's good if you like easy kills while invading but it's just frustrating for the host.
>>335693428
Then don't invade when you have a lot of souls with you? I just buy a lot of shit (gear, consumables and whatnot) to get rid of my souls before I attempt to invade. It's not like you get a lot of souls by invading anyway.
Besides if you ever need some souls just farm a boss as a sunbro and you'll get as many souls and you want pretty fast.
But I agree that there isn't much of a point to losing your souls when you fail an invasion, they could get rid of that.
>>335693904
Daggers are for BSing and Ripostes. With the current meta being r1 spam. If you bring a light shield with you to pvp and a dagger. You're going to get a lot of wins.
I'm a pyro build with a fire dagger in my back pocket and its not niggers out harder than any of my spells.
>>335693910
you know heavy weapons only hit once right? You can backstep away from the second swing
and the bonus of fast weapons isn't how fast you can stagger someone, it's the low stamina usage, speed of revving up and occasionally range
>>335693834
They need to put the endlag on every roll like rolls had in DS1
this DS2 roll spam is fucking stupid
>>335693889
Thanks!
>>335693910
>Getting hit by an UGS.
You fucked up.
invalid data
cant play.
they killed my online experience for no fucking reason.
I reinstalled I did everything fuck it all.
>>335694002
Look harder.
>>335693904
>daggers do low damage
>>335688112
Typical quality build, but you probably don't know shit about that since you posted a BB picture which is the game with worse PvP than DkS1
>>335694116
>Be on otherside of map
>Guy swings Ugs
>I didn't roll so I take damage
I really don't understand how people even think pvp in this game is functional.
>Magic NERFS despite being already useless
>ESTOC UNTOUCHED
>DARK SWORD UNTOUCHED
>R1 spam untouched
A-TEAM ladies and gentlemen.
>>335694056
You are half the reason this series sucks now. Congratulations.
>>335686860
The flow of fixes is convoluted. The patch notes are meant for the player to interpret themselves :^)
>>335694153
Did you try checking the local data in steam? Although if you reinstalled it should have done that as well. Maybe your save is corrupted somehow? Can you still play singleplayer normally?
>>335694116
People love to walk into it
gotta dump that 36 endurance, peopel always think im out and move in but i got a swipe or l2 pancaker on deck
>>335693693
Remembers me of people talking about smelter demon in DS2.
>WOW, my fire longsword that have been carrying me the whole game deals no dmg against monster made of fire and solid iron
>WOW, how the hell am i supposed to know i have to change armors for fire resist / apply fire resist buffs?
>WOW how should i counter this OP immolation that deals a little dmg in a game that heavily features ilimited itens that boost hp regen rate?
>bonfire lighting crash not fixed
i guess ill keep playing on low settings, thanks fROM FUCKINGAASD
>>335693306
Anyone have an answer to this? My Luck is at 9 and I was thinking about dropping a few points into it, but I'll just leave it if I need to heavily invest for any real effect.
>>335694078
The varying i-frames for roll depending on stats was annoying as well. Just make it simple and have the speed differences but keep the i-frames the same across the 3 different speeds.
>>335693854
You don't need any dex and you only need as much fp as your estust flask gives you.
And for all that you get the benefit of killing anything before it reaches you, which is a big fucking deal in Dark Souls. If you could do as much damage as a melee character with the same kind of investment and no trade off there would 0 purpose to play melee.
I've gone through a playthrough as a sorcerer using miracles on some specific mobs/bosses and it was the easiest playthrough ever. Never run out of mana, kill every annoying/tanky mob before they can even hit me. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having to equip 2 rings to have that kind of power. Especially since I can also kick ass in melee with a simple raw infusion + reinforced weapon with 0 investment in str or dex
>>335693726
I wish they stacked. It's hard to notice duplicates of some of the more mundane looking pieces.
>>335685646
>Knight Slayer Tsorig will no longer gesture unintendedly
>purples cant disguise their summon sign or hurt enemies when invade
Whats the point then? No one summons you and you are just like a red when invading
>>335694336
AMD doesn't crash, haha
>>335694054
>>335694068
I'm more interested in a PvE build becauseI pirated the game.
The damage output against bosses is really low and it feels like the fights are taking twice as long as when I just cheesed the game with the Dark sword.
Is there a way to make daggers viable in PvE besides over leveling.
>>335694180
In my experience so far they do.
>>335694231
>9 dex
>quality
Is it good
>>335694340
Luck should be brought up to 35 if you're planning on using a hollow weapon and completely ignored if you don't.
>>335694245
>guy swings ugs on other side of map
>don't roll but hold shield up instead
>completely staggers you and he's able to cross the entire map and still get the riposte
>>335694231
>Quality
>40 STR, 9 DEX
>>335690031
WHAT IS THAT
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
>>335694416
>holding up your shield against the heaviest weapons in the game
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah how was I suppose to know
>>335694345
You'll get off maybe one lightning spear before an enemy is in your face in this game
>>335694406
pvp, no
pve, you can cheese some bosses if you respc into luck, apply bleed resin in it.
>Find Dark Sword as my first drop from the Darkwraiths in Farron Keep
>Really like the Stomp because poise actually works then and it's better than that shitty stance the other swords have because enemies will just fuck you up with their huge range
>People online call me a shitter because they can't kill me and I actually use a bow for PVP
Like holy shit, I can get two hits off my Dark Sword before you can roll away, the invaders keep chugging fucking Estus, and the Stomp only works if you mash R1. What am I supposed to do, not win just to make you feel better?
>>335694345
>talking about pve
>talking about sorcerers when you're replying about miracles
Please just stop anon. You're making me feel bad.
>lowest possible str is 7
>some weapons still have a str 4,5,6 requirements
Why?
>>335694479
>Hold up shield against a dagger
>shield break in his first attack
yeah man. Top notch stuff here. I love it
>>335693819
>casualization of the PvP is for the best
I assume you must have felt very badass after having looked up the location of Darkwraith covenant, chaos / lightning weapons and pyromancy before invading in Burg with your SL1 character, without running the risk of getting invaded yourself due to having killed the area boss.
>>335693910
I very often get hit 2 or 3 times because the straight sword range is insane and hits you through your roll.
>>335694508
just enjoy the butthurt
>>335693306
>>335694340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQG25dZGSTc
Looking at this video, a luck build with the twin blades + rogue buff bleeds in 3-4 hits. Hollow weapons add to your luck stat, so you'll want to build around that concept.
>>335694406
bleed build sure. you can make it work
>>335694508
Its the bow that probably pisses them off. Those things are annoying
Also you're lying because no one sends messages in DS3
>>335694505
Then what the fuck do I use with Kirk armor set
>>335686860
We need vaati to do an indepth analysis of these patch notes. What is the meaning of the mysterious "performance adjustment"?
>>335694231
>quality
>125
>9 dex
>40 end
Kek
>>335694318
yeah I can play singleplayer but from already gave the boot to my account.
I wont be able to play with friends, i reinstalled i deleted everything i did everything I thought possible.
I got rid of my NG+ first playthrough save and four others and still had it.
I just got sad and gave up.
>invade world
>The host DOESN'T summon phantoms
O-oh christ.
>>335693330
Well that is legit reason to want it back honestly
But still it destroys PvP
>>335693350
Refund it.
>>335694465
Twylight was a trainwreck in more ways than the story.
>>335694631
My Steam profile page would beg to differ.
>>335694265
The series suck because you can't easily kill noobs who barely know how to play the game? Maybe you should improve your proficiency.
Being an invader against a gank squad forces you to be patient and use the enemies to your advantage. You need to bid your time and use your knowledge of the level to figure out the best way to catch the host or one of their phantoms unawares.
If you prefer to simply invade a random noob that won't be used to PvP and won't have the right build just so that you can score a quick easy win, I'm glad that you don't like the series anymore, you won't be missed.
>>335693819
>I want a dead online mode after 2 weeks
Besides, DS has always been casual.
>>335685646
What about soft bans? What about every invasion turning into gang rape?
>>335688313
>Wahh where's my instant win button!
>>335694345
if I dump faith I get pretty meek lightning spears, need to manually aim for anything outside of lock on range, manage fp and once theyre in my face i got some gimpy faith weapon
vs
i have 20/20 str/dex and my dragonslayer bow can not only outrange everything but also sends them flying back and away on every hit and it does more damage than any spell
>>335694554
Twinking was a legitimate issue. The only "twink" I ever made was in des and it relied solely on scraping spear and the plague/poison daggers. It was fucking hilarious.
The point is though Twinking has nothing to do with the VAST majority of ways the series has gotten more and more casual with each release.
In fact Twinking could be solved with weapon memory. (It could also be solved in less retarded ways but credit where credit is due)
>>335694415
>>335694604
Alright, thanks. I've been meaning to respec (put a few points into magic stuff before deciding I didn't want to use it), so this is entirely doable.
>>335694056
>completely kill any incentive for new players to invade
As much as I like the fact that being embered gives you a bonus as opposed to removing a penalty à la DeS/DaS2, the fact that they throw embers at you like it's going out of style means there's no reason for new players to invade. I had a blast as an aldritch but if I wasn't a completionist I probably wouldn't have touched it and dick invasions are a great aspect of the game that a lot of people won't get to experience.
>>335693693
I actually just found out yesterday that the Deacons accumulate Curse on you if you don't kill them fast enough. This only happened because I was trying to solo them in NG+ and their attacks do such fuck-you damage that I had to take constant heal breaks. Which also led me to find out that the main Deacon periodically gets healed...
That boss is weird. Kill them fast enough, and you've got nothing to worry about. Hesitate even for a little bit, and you're fucked.
>>335694770
Man shut the fuck up, maybe 1 in 100 invasions of a squad go that way. the other 99 is the 3 guys sitting next to the boss door with everything cleared and will fight 3v1 but if the host gets low he bails to the boss and you kill a phantom or 2 at best
>>335694704
That sucks, did you do anything that could warrant a ban?
Maybe you should contact the support but that sounds tedious.
>>335693819
>Making invading challenging is casualization
People who summon have always been casuals, there's no change here. It's easy mode since DeS. Now there's more to invading than twinking high level gear and farming noobs who barely know how to PvP.
>>335687747
>125
ahahhahahahahahahahahahahahha
>>335685646
>going through the game a second time with a quality build after first character was the traditional faith build I've done since DeS
Holy shit it's so much more enjoyable
Is there anyway to use password matching to invade your friends, or even invade someone else *with* them?
Or does it only affect summoning signs
>>335694770
>use the enemies to your advantage
90% of the time I invade the enemies are all dead and the host and his butt buddies refuse to leave the bonfire.
>>335694783
Des had the longest lived online mode. Make of that what you will.
>>335694770
You're retarded. Seed of the giant says hello.
>>335695057
Either this or 5 phantoms in the game and the host summoning even more.
>>335694709
You act like it would destroy PVP when we're in the highest-damage highest-aggression, highest mobility Dark Souls has ever been. With how useless armor is for damage absorption and reduction, on top of how hard it is to increase your HP (1000 is the average before cinders and rings for everyone) "Face-tanking" is by no means a risk-free endeavor, both for PVE and PVP. Especially if it's in a fight club where everyone's being a cool enough dude to not use healing estus. If you're using a lighter weapon as well, even if you can't interrupt the attack you have plenty of time to get a hit in and then roll away while Joe Ultra-Greatsword is still winding up.
This isn't DS2 where the face-tank would be rolling up with more than 2k HP and good enough armor to actually make you need to whittle him down. The fucker in full Havels is still taking a big chunk of damage from a single rapier poke.
>>335695057
That's why you keep a bow and obscuring ring. Chop their estus away from afar, they deserve it.
>>335691205
look at his multiple different videos
>50 fucking strength to use the Fume GS
>>335694964
I did today, I dont think so. I'm scared it was becuase when the game kept disconnecting from the dark souls servers i just kept playing.
is that a possibility?
I contacted support and haven't heard from anybody.
I'm afraid I just lost my money over this and a chance to enjoy a good ass game.
>>335695221
>what is two-handing
>>335695103
>seed of the giant
Where do those drop, anyway? I had a host use one on me shortly after launch and felt kind of flattered that he'd waste something so rare on me. Didn't realize they were common now.
>>335694345
>You don't need any dex and you only need as much fp as your estust flask gives you.
Using FP flasks when the meta is "who runs out of estus first?" Come on, m8.
>>335695040
Only affects signs.
>>335695243
They're still incredibly rare.
>>335694770
>Being an invader against a gank squad forces you to be patient and use the enemies to your advantage
Nonsense. The gank squad is either going to pull back and refuse to press on until you get impatient and come to them on their terms. The alternative is that they've cleared the map and are spamming dried fingers while waiting for you to show up. I ended up getting summoned to one of those while trying to help people and ended up letting an invader kill me because it stopped being fun after the first whitewash, plus I didn't want to incur any penalties by using the black crystal.
>>335695243
The tree of a giant at Firelink drops one whenever you run out.
>>335695243
It's up there next to the tree giant at firelink, drops once every few invasions.
>>335695242
>what is being unable to use half your goddamn moveset, giving up a shield, and giving up parries, when no DEX weapon in the game has ever demanded such an absurd stat requirement, on top of the salt in the wound of many strength weapons requiring near-20 dex as well.
>>335694171
post a picture
>>335695246
Constraining yourself will make you better. I run 5 estus 5 magic with only two armor slots filled. When you don't have crutches to fall back on, it forces you to git gud
>>335688592
My nigga. Isn't it technically an ultra great?
>>335695242
Either the menu stats are fucked or the answer to your question is "a total waste of your time", because even two handing the menu reports a total of 89 damage for me at 36 strength.
>>335691817
>why the fuck do you assholes act like you know how these games work?
Because its /v/
They can do whatever they want, I'm still waiting for them to switch poise ON which is clearly OFF in the gamefiles.
>>335694952
>That boss is weird. Kill them fast enough, and you've got nothing to worry about. Hesitate even for a little bit, and you're fucked.
This is actually every boss in the game.
>>335695335
nobody said using a giant hammer is easy bitch nigga
>>335694949
The incentive is that it's free. You don't lose anything if you lose. If like DaS2 you didn't get the full orb at the start of the game I could agree with you but as it is there's simply no need for an other incentive. If you want fair PvP use the red soapstone, it's there for that.
>>335694949
>>335695057
That does happen to me but not that often. What does happen often however is that I invade as the host is just starting the level and they move back to the starting bonfire and wait. That's when you must be patient. You can use a bow or something to force them to take action. Eventually an other red and maybe a pink will come in, which can even the odds a bit.
And yeah you still risk losing but so what? If you want to farm tongues just use a fight club. I win maybe one in five invasions on average but when I do it feels awesome.
>>335695448
Two handing isn't reflected in the menu for some stupid reason.
You can only just see if the X on the weapon icon (in your bottom left currently equipped thing) goes away when you two hand.
>There are people browsing /v/ right now who only have one Uchi
>>335694486
Nah, you get at least two. I spent most of the game spamming heavy soul arrow, which is way slower than the lightning spear, and I always get 2 shots heavy mobs that don't die in one.
>>335694523
No, the discussion is about magic in general being bad. Try to follow it instead of acting like a tard. Besides, my miracles deal around 1.5k on the knights near the twin princes so get fucked. Their only problem is the their mana cost, which make them sort of inefficient at clearing trash unlike pyro and sorcery.
>>335694843
How much damage does it do? Because my spells literally one shot 90% of the content of the game and I don't have to buy arrows
>>335695595
Hm. Seems like a hell of an oversight to make. Couldn't have been intentional, DaS2 properly reported two handed stats.
>>335695516
Not really. Most bosses don't build up an unavoidable insta-kill attack on you over time.
>>335695418
Or I could run full HP flasks and win that way. By your logic, it would be fine if miracles took up all your stats and equipment slots and dealt 10 damage because it would force users to get good.
>>335695667
the arrows can be a bitch but its whatever, but at 30/30 with +5 greatbow my arrows are hitting for like 600ish on your standard humanoids
>>335695595
Wasn't it the same in DaS2? What a fucking letdown getting the required stats for a weapon to just to be able to see that its scaling is rubbish.
>>335691270
>run into rapier/katana/longsword user
>walk in and out of his range until he starts swinging
>stand just at the edge of it
>see for how long he spams
>if 3+ times, wait until they get their stamina back and just let yourself get hit and press parry after taking two hits
if it's a dark sword you don't even have to test them, they will go for the third swing 1400% of the time.
>>335695684
It actually didn't. In DaS2, it only properly removed penalties if two-handing let you use it properly. So the stats would still be the same as one-handed stats.
>>335695729
My logic doesn't state that everyone should play my way. Either way, the number of flasks you have isn't going to get you anyway wins. It's being able to drop damage on someone at critical moments that gets you wins. Had infinite grass back in Demon's Souls and it created a similar atmosphere.
>>335695667
>No, the discussion is about magic in general being bad.
Keep clicking the reply chain.
>WHY ARE MIRACLES STILL UTTERLY FUCKING USELESS GOD DAMMIT
Don't lie to me.
>>335688127
OH
so the intended way to do cathedral is
>get down to the level with the giants
>go up next to the other giant so that you can get the elevator
>open main door to outside
>cross bridge and get fucked by patches
?
>>335695723
I mean like, rushing the enemy and trying to kill it as fast as possible is the key in this game, at least in my experience.
Do you only get matched up with NG+ people when go to NG+?
>>335685646
>Conditions for optional events is eased.
I just finishedAnor Londoand I missed pretty much every NPC, or managed to get them killed somehow, and I am overcome with a deep sadness. Should I just start over and use a guide? I didn't know playing blind would hurt my heart so.
>>335687264
Well there goes my pyro twink.
Fuck you miyazaki you hack. You had to nerf the one viable thing pyromancers had.
>>335696012
No you're fine.
>>335695967
that's true of pretty much any game though. the faster you kill something the less chances it has to hurt you. the only way to really avoid making things a dps race is time-locked phases or bullshit like that
>>335696012
Use a guide. That shit is impossible.
>>335695585
Being free isn't an incentive because being summoned is also free, but lower risk because you're going co-op.
>>335696035
He's pulling things out of his ass, anon.
The actual patch notes say adjustments to magic, without going into any specifics.
You can literally look at the patch notes on Steam, right now.
>>335695170
You realize full Smoughs reduces damage by over 50%, right?
Dark souls 3 sucks its the most unfair in terms of its difficulty in the series
Oh well ill just go back to DS2 (the most fair dark souls)
>>335695853
>Having double someone's health in a meta where rolling costs barely any stamina and estus drinking is unpunishable won't get you any wins.
Seriously, stop baiting. Infinite demon grass was fine because you could actually lock someone down before they could eat it.
>>335695620
LMAO 3KAT
>>335696142
Absorption gives diminished returns above 20%.
>>335694709
Poise in PvP was always meh.
Getting staggered every hit breaks it much harder, since people with daggers can just pewpewpew a million times and you're dead, without a break.
>>335688286
>>335686728
Poise favored R2 swings with Dragon Tooth/Zweihander, son. Enjoy being locked until dead.
>>335696150
At least one person will take you seriously and quote you with a silly face.
>>335696012
I'm in the same boat. Do you know if it's like DaS2 and you're supposed to summon certain NPC to advance their quests? I never summon and I hated that shit, especially since it's hard to notice NPC signs amongst the sea of player signs.
I guess I'm going to keep that for NG+. The thing that annoys me right now is that I sent the thief guy to loot Ithiril and he hasn't come back in a while, I tried to go looking for him but didn't find him. I want to buy heavy arrows ffs.
>>335695667
>No, the discussion is about magic in general being bad.
We've been complaining about miracles from the start. Then one guy said he didn't have any problems with miracles because he used mostly pyromancies and now you've said you don't have any problems because of mostly sorceries. Miracles are the point of contention.
>>335696150
>DS2 (the most fair dark souls)
>>335696336
Only thing that I know is that you have to summon yourself into Sirris's world, not have Sirris assist you.
>>335687264
>nerf
>soul stream
Why
>Embered after Deacons
>Head to Skellyhouse
>don't summon sinceI just don't like playing coop
>Estoc-user "Acid Rain" invades me
>fucking ruin him with my Wolf Greatsword
heh
>>335696272
People were saying that Poise in DS3 does work just it's not passive anymore and is instead tied to weapon animations as a multiplier based on weapon type, heavier weapons getting higher multipliers. If that's the case it still benefits heavy weapons the most.
>>335696012
Complete game then whip out wiki on NG+
That's how you do it.
>>335696336
There are no necessary NPCs you have to summon for fights in order to progress stuff. Instead, being able to summon NPCs for fights is just a reward as part of their questline.
On the flip side, you instead get summoned to other NPC's worlds and progress their questline via that.
>>335696259
you can still get 40%+ without even wearing smoughs or havels.
>>335696336
>The thing that annoys me right now is that I sent the thief guy to loot Ithiril and he hasn't come back in a while, I tried to go looking for him but didn't find him. I want to buy heavy arrows ffs.RIPI'm sorry for your loss.
Magic is being nerfed in patch 1.04 regulation 1.06, not buffed.
Also FYI magic was nerfed in last patch 1.03. Farron Flashsword swing speed was reduced.
>>335686960
>>335686973
>Short swords
T-that goes under straight swords r-right guys?
>>335696012
Go and look up the NPC questlines and you'll be disgusted at how stupid they are to find/complete. Especially Anri's later parts.
>>335696336
Sometimes you can summon yourself into the NPC's world but fortunately you don't need to summon anyone to complete their quests, so no cases of Lucatiel vs Smelter Demon anymore.
>>335696435
see >>335696137
>>335696490
I'm saying that the amount it tells you you have isn't actually what it says once you're above 20%.
>>335696129
Even if invading was made easier the reward is still very lame. You always get more souls by cooping. And if you're after the tongues you can just use the red sign soapstone to get fair and quick fights.
Invading is about messing up with the host and *maybe* managing to win. I think they balanced it more having the host in mind than the invader. A guy who summons 3 phantoms is not going to face any challenge, realistically. He can just stand back and watch the phantoms doing all the work. In DaS3 he's almost guaranteed to be invaded however, which keeps things interesting.
Of course if you can't stand to lose even when there are basically no consequences I can see how this could be annoying as an invader but I really don't mind it myself.
Could someone explain how the fugg parrys work in pvp
>>335696643
Steam patch notes are not properly translated. Japanese patch notes mentions nerfs to the specific magic.
>>335696457
Poise would work if they actually turned it on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldIxzYQ7nIw
So I just got summoned as a darkmoon for the first time in 40 hours. This feels wrong
>>335696643
where do you get this idea from? Diminishing returns are a fact but how do you know that it shows the wrong thing? inb4 looking at the numbers and it shows +15% when it should be +13.5%
Again I am not denying that there is diminshing returns but you can still have a fuckload of armour and it shows.
>>335696592
That's fortunate. I think the only NPC sidequest I did so far is invading the guy who kills rosaria and wrecking his shit.
>>335696494
Ah, fuck. I knew I shouldn't have been greedy. There's nothing else to do? I at least expected to find his body/get invaded by him when I went back to ithiril.
>>335696582
I hope it means all straight swords. The translation on patch notes has always been utter dogshit.
>>335694390
Neither does Nvidia. So idk what you are implying he is using.
>>335687595
Bruh go try using gundyr's halberd, drang twin spears and drang hammers, greataxe, motherfucking PICKAXE, and the composite bow. You can rek and straight sword and katana shitters with those.
>>335687747
>125SL
>almost 40 vit
>>335685646
>Magic still hits like a wet noodle
Well fuck magic in this game then.I rerolled to a str build and started having fun again but watching pure int invaders fail to kill me hurts my heart a little.Even had one black crystal out when i dodged all his spells
>>335696796
You can find his ashes in the same sewer you find the Excrement Covered Ashes.
That's all, I'm afraid.
>>335696792
The formula switches to a logarithmic one after 20%, so while it still uses the value it shows, it results in less of an actual value due to the change.
>>335696885
>Almost
But I do have 40 VIT.
It's useful.
>>335696895
Sadly magic is getting further nerfs in tomorrow's patch.
>>335695016
Not that guy, but what's the agreed upon SL for PVP and stuff, actually? Both of my characters ended up in the SL 90-100 range on finishing the game and it already feels like a little too much.
>>335696678
The only time it was fun facing a gank squad was when I tricked them into chasing me onto the flying buttresses and got them all killed by the silver knight archers. You don't have that kind of opportunity everywhere you go. It's more the fact that unless you can find a situation similar to that then realistically, coming up against a 3v1 or 4v1 is simply a waste of time.
>Invading is about messing up with the host and *maybe* managing to win
What nonsense. If that was what invading was really about From would bring back the scraping spear and those throwables that damage armour. That's messing with the host.
>>335696780
Poise is turned on. A specific aspect of poise was disabled intentionally be developers, but poise still does other things.
>running around in NG+ with way of blue cause i feel bad
>takes them a full minute to come in after im invaded
>ive already won or died at this point
how are they not able to get this right in 3 games
>>335696790
I've managed it three times, all in Untended Graves for whatever reason.
>>335697004
It is too much. 21-35 vit is all you need. rather use a havels ring and have 8 more points in dex on your "quality" build. your build is 100% pure shit m8. 10 vigor too much as well, I have 27 and can tank 3 hits from your axe, armour is nice and I do not need 40 vit to wear it either.
>Whole point of DS pvp is to invade niggers and fuck shit up
>DS community sits down and decides on a fair level cap everyone should stop at for pvp
I aint get it
>>335685646
>ONLINE ANIMATIONS STILL NOT FIXXED
YES FROMSOFT FUCK OYU
>>335696384
Well it doesn't matter, my sunlightspear still deals nearly 1.8k damage so either we don't play the same game or people complaining miracles are shit don't know how to read stats.
I'm literally one shoting red-eyed-blue-caped knights goddamnit, what more do you want?
The only thing preventing me from running amok and raping the whole game with lightning miracles is the mana cost, which I think is find since sorcery and pyro already fill that role and lightning is super strong against most bosses.
Screen is from NG+ with 50int/40something faith. Crystal chime softcap at 30int/30faith anyway.
>>335693330
>not just getting good and rolling
There are seriously hundreds of RPGs where you can facetank your enemies, go play them if you don't want a challenge.
>>335696796
>Ah, fuck. I knew I shouldn't have been greedy. There's nothing else to do?
Unless you've saved Siegward from the well and given him back his armour that you buy from Patches then no. Alternatively, send Patches to save himbut if you buy any of Siegward's armour then he'll also die.
>>335697304
Because if you level too high you can't invade, you stupid git. The community didn't "decide" anything.
>>335696728
Nice try, anon. I checked.
And from checking it looks like by "Short Sword" they meant "Dagger".
>>335697231
Like what?
Any weapon recommendations for a pure strength build PvE/PvP? I've been using the Artora Greatsword which has a great moveset but it doesn't have enough damage with a heavy infusion. So I need something with a good moveset that hits hard.
Why are the NPC questlines such a pain in the fucking ass in this game
>You have to do this but only if you did this before that and also this other thing that you had to do before that
>>335697304
There are level ranges for invasions. You're not going to be SL999999 invading a brand new player. The level range is just a generally agreed upon range where you're pretty much guaranteed to invade someone and there is still some variance in character builds.
>>335697304
It's to make it so you've got build variation in the honourfag pvp pool but you can still invade in the normal pvp pool.
>>335697335
People are just complaining because you need to invest more levels to int/faith
>>335697304
You're dumb.
>Invade as dorkmoon
>FInd host and two phantoms at a stale mate against a red who is hiding behind some tough enemies.
>Neither will approach
>Go charging in
>Running attack into leaping R2 shield breaks the invader
>Hornet ring riposte and done.
>Look back, host and his phantoms didn't even attempt to go in with me.
Feels good to be a Dorkmoon
>>335697232
It worked fine in DaS1 because you were just hunting the guilty with a blue eye orb. As of now we've got two covenants doing the exact same for the exact same reward reporting to the exact same person for no reason.
why cant you "poise" whiners just GET GOOD
>>335697267
I'm pretty sure I am using both the Favour ring and Havel's Ring.
Dex is worthless to me, more Strength is worthless to me, Int is worthless to me, more Faith is worthless to me.
You also cannot tank 3 hits from me with 21 VIT and 27 VIG, I can damn-near guarantee it.
>Your build is pure shit.
I went 11/1 W/L in the /v/ fight club with it. I had to intentionally leave because I ran out of Estus to heal back up to full with, so I was starting matches with <80% health sometimes.
>>335695620
That reminds me of the guy with the swords on his legs from League of Legends
>>335686960
Are we sure Twinswords are getting a buff?
>>335697536
People complain because they're shitters who don't understand half the things in the game
>Magic nerfed again
Oh god, it's like NERF GRENINJA all over again.
>>335697335
>have to beat the final boss to get the only good miracle
How is this ok
>>335685646
Did they fix the fucking poise?
>>335697585
>Using hyperarmor
Different things faggot
>>335695620
3KAT
3KAT!!!
>>335697523
But that doesn't actually make any sense. At 125 you can inflate too much shit. 50-80 is where build variation would be.
>>335697543
no u
>>335697449
Roll recovery.
>>335697335
This is a bug you faggot. Miracles do double damage if you hit an enemy in melee range. It has something to do with the spell hitbox at melee range.
>The Champs shoulder check and roundhouse kick STILL not added to Gundyrs halbert
>already transferred all my endgame shit to multiple twinks
You guys are missing out, low level pvp is hilarious and you get constant moundmaker/watchdog/blue sentinel invasions.
>>335697829
Currently at 50-80 quality builds are insane compared to other builds, which lowers the variance of viable builds.
>all these people falling for this nerf bait
Pic related. The literal patch notes.
No specific forms of magic or named.
Not sorceries, miracles, or pyromancy.
Only that "magic" is getting adjusted.
No buffs or nerfs mentioned, only adjustments.
Also "Short Sword" is most likely daggers.
Link for those who don't trust my image.
http://www.darksouls.jp/information_more.html
>>335698072
Nigga I can't read chex mix.
Any M&KBbro out here? Am I the only one who have issue with sprinting to the right? MY sprint get interupted for a brief moment when I press "D" and then it starts again. Doesnt happen to the left, when I press "A". I had no trouble in DaS2 or any other game.
>>335697829
man shut the fuck up with selling your pvp meta nobody gives a shit about why you think they should stay a level
>>335698072
>FROMSOFT
>Buffing magic EVER
KEK. Last I checked they nerfed magic in last patch 1.03. You are dumb if you don't think they are just going to nerf all the few top viable spells.
>>335698224
Per NG
>>335697493
Sirris' quest is like a goddamn parody.
>Talk to this NPC
>Find this obscure as fuck random item that has no obvious relation to the NPC so that you can talk to her again
>Backtrack to an area that you would not ever have a single reason to backtrack to and look for a summon sign
>Defeat a specific boss
>Look at the description of one random vendor trash item that nobody in their right mind would care about
>Backtrack to yet another area you shouldn't need to backtrack to to look for another summon sign
>Defeat yet another specific boss
>Backtrack a third fucking time to an obscure as fuck area to pick up items from her corpse
What the FUCK was Miyahacki thinking?
>>335698121
>Call bullshit out on not making sense
>STFU WITH SELLING SHIT
Okay anon
Aside from drop rates and hollow weapons does luck do anything else?
>mfw someone cries about poise not being in the game
Must suck being so bad at the game that you have to don the heaviest poise-setting armor and spam R1s the entire time.
I pity you.
>>335698371
Increases the speed that Poison, Toxic and Bleed build up.
>>335698396
hyper armor at least requires a certain level of timing and spacing, poise babbies are hilarious
>>335698325
fag theres more stat points to be dumped in thsi game than any other and youre saying shit is too inflated at above 80
shut the fuck up and keep your gay opinions to yourself
>>335698396
>MFW someone defends bad decisions no matter what they are
Its okay to like a game and still call it out on its flaws anon
>>335697585
Honestly im spilt
Hyper armor really grew on me in 3. The thing that just sucks so much fucking dick is that it's the same for every weapon so someone with a straight sword can just easy get a hit in on you with a R2 as a ultra great sword user.
It's essentially the same as poise in DaS1 becase it has the exact same problems
>107 fucking rings required for a trophy
>this extends to NG++
This is worse than how in DaS2 you needed to either get 500 invasion/sentinel wins or make it to NG++ Drangleic Castle to buy the final miracles/pyromancies/sorceries.
>>335697719
It's not, people are just retarded
A pve build is not viable if it's complete and utter shit up until ng+ where it actually becomes playable
So /v/, what is the agreed on lvl cap
>>335698625
>Grr
>Fag
>Shut up, SHUT THE FUCK UP
Why are you so angry right now anon?
>>335698651
>Caring about trophies
>>335698626
nice argument you got there buddy
>>335698648
those move still lack range or stunning ability to ever be a proper threat
>>335698716
Is this your first day here?
>>335698751
>HAHAHAH PEOPLE WHO LIKE POISE ARE BAD
What you posted is an opinion, and opinions can't be wrong so there is no argument to be made.
>>335697915
>it's a bug
Holy fucking shit my sides, it's a feature of the spell you goddamn retard and it doesn't deal double damage, it's a fixed value for each spell. At range sunlight still deal 1.1k
Get the fuck out shitter.
>>335697719
Lightning spear deals about half the damage of sunlight spear and cost less than half FP so it's actually a better spell overall
>>335697905
Yeah exactly, that's the one and only thing poise is used for in the game.
>>335698718
Look nigger I won't be free until I platinum it. After that I can play the game on my terms.
>>335698696
50-80 if you aren't shit and need 40 in literally every stat and do the exact same damage as everyone else with no weapon diversity
120 is such a reddit SL
>tfw GHSA is literally the only decent spell and even then you need 3 rings and the crown for it to not be shit
>Still no Bumpercar fix
>>335698890
I'm not the guy you responded to the first time, what I am asking for is you giving a reason poise isn't a bad mechanic and why hyper armor isn't superior
>>335698716
People tend to get a little angry when somebody starts giving their opinion on a matter they know nothing about and then having the gall to act like your right and then have the additional gall to be all high and mighty lol why are you so angry?
be a dumb faggot, expect to have people angrily telling you so
>>335698696
120-130 is a pretty safe bet.
>>335698117
Come on guys, just tell me if its working for you. Turning right while sprinting stops sprinting for me. No matter what key is it binded to. Press left doesnt stop sprinting.
>>335698765
>Dark sword and butcher knife
>lacking range on anything
otherwise i would agree with you
>>335699008
There has never been a post accompanied by a big dawgs image with something worth reading.
>>335699071
>>335698117
I tried M+KB once when DS2 released and never tried it again
>>335699084
I dunno dude, all straight sword fags are TERRIFIED to get close after trading with me once
>>335699025
It renders armor useless and by extent invalidates the vitality stat.
>>335698396
>tfw I mercilessly raped the game by spamming R1 with my 2h weapons the entire game
Who need poise when you stunlock and kill everything in 1 or 2 hits
>>335699071
>Playing on M+k
you poor soul
>>335699071
/v/ has a lot of autistic people, but very few are autistic enough to use M+KB.
>>335692932
Hollow Carthus Curved Sword +10 and 40LCK
Enjoy bleeding people out before they can even react to what's going on
>>335699228
Are you aware that armor has stats that aren't poise
>>335688271
It's pretty good. Much less damage than Lightning Blade, but only half the faith requirement. It also stops reviving enemies, as well as passively heals you.
You can get insane regen by casting Blessed Weapon on Anri’s Straight Sword, having a Blessed Shield, and wearing the princess’ ring. If you’re able to block/dodge well, it can seriously prolong fights.
>>335699110
please tell me how much fun you are having at 125SL next week when this patch sturs up the metafags and you have to use X weapon to one shot people otherwise they would just do it to you.
This game WILL have a gaint dad havle mom you stupid fuck. every souls game have
>>335698035
How do you get around the equipment level restriction?
>>335696419
This is worse because of how amazingly counter intuitive it is. First time requires mild back tracking. Second one requires going back to an area that would otherwise never be visited.
>>335699345
And they are useless, as long as you have something in the slot, you're fine. Min maxing the armor only provides a minimal difference in damage mitigation.
>>335699162
Thanks anyway, anon. Maybe I wil lget some attention.
>>335699309
>>335699319
Yeah, this thing is fucking horrible, so right now I am poor soul. Otherwise I have no idea why would you trade aiming and camera control for, um what exactly is controller good at? Come, cant you guys just try it quick?
>>335699426
You transfer the weapons at +0 and keep them at +1 (or 2 for titanite shards)
>>335696678
>A guy who summons 3 phantoms is not going to face any challenge, realistically. He can just stand back and watch the phantoms doing all the work. In DaS3 he's almost guaranteed to be invaded however, which keeps things interesting.
This is the first reasonable explanation I've heard for the invasion dynamics in 3. Nice work.
>>335699449
And where did you get that idea? Reddit?
>>335699071
Mine's working fine.
>>335693534
>using the great axe
>range is literally right in front of my foot with a light attack,even worst if i do a roll attack
>not having poise makes every attack a 50/50 on whether or not it will hit, super armor only kicks in 75% into the animation
not having poise makes using heavy weapons inconsistent as shit
>>335699449
Nah there's a pretty significant difference between really light and heavy armors, there's also resistances and sometimes unique abilities although those are really too rare to mention
The fact that you can't even upgrade armor any more sort of tells you how little from software cares about them
>>335699541
>Le ebin gamepad hate meme
Do you really not own a controller anon?
Has the meta been decided yet?
>>335699680
you're exaggerating, it kicks in at the 50% mark and thats if you're using the r1, the r2 has way earlier hyper armor
also the great axe is one of the shortest range heavy weapons, so I mean yeah it's going to be harder to time
>>335699575
>Hahaha you look at reddit
Is this really your best attempt at undermining my character anon?
