Nioh Alpha Demo
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>>335645210
I hope the full game will have small villages with shops and shit. Genji had them too even if it wasn't nessecary, but it added to the charme
>>335645210
Anyone feel as though the game is fundamentally broken?
There is more to the Souls formula than simple "LOL SO HARD XD!!!"
>>335645395
Broken how?
>>335645395
I feel as though your hand eye coordination might be fundamentally broken.
how the shit do i deal with these poison rape zombies?
>>335645395
The only thing that's broken is my armour that seems to break every 2 deaths
Why
>>335645395
Not really, but running out of stamina is too unforgiving.
>>335645395
I know what you mean. In the souls formula especially Bloodborne I felt that every fight was fair and that it was down to skill how you fare. However here, if you aggro three dudes then you're FUCKED. Running isn't much of an option either since they are going to chase you all the way to Japanese hell.
>>335645395
>hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6NEPWELCus
yeah it is broken. too easy to cheese it as it is right now. or here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6lU81YotxA
way too easy to cheese. Everyone who complains that it is too hard is a literal casual scrub.
>>335645541
hit them with triangle and keep dodging. hit after they did a combo. same as every other enemy. use low sweeping weapons if you have problems.
>>335645395
I'm up to the boat boss and yes, it is broken.
>>335645581
you can press triangle and circle for unlimited stamina for like 30 seconds. or 2 shot kill enemies with shurikens. or 2 shot kill enemies with your katana. or one shot kill unarmed with a parry. or do 4 full combos with one stamina bar. how do you manage to run out of stamina? invest some points into the 2nd stat or get better gear with +ki.
Man the fucking enemies are vicious in this game, they chase you endlessly. One of the staple of souls game is that you can run past most enemies. Here it's literally trial and error all the way and you have to refight every single one of them. Am I missing something? Is there a parkour tech hidden somewhere? I don't mind it in the demo, but I imagine in the real game it'll get old real fast if you're fighting the same boss over and over again.
>>335645660
poor cyclops
>>335645647
wrong. wrong wrong. enemies do not follow you forever, at least not all of them. You can actually bait them into splitting up. You can one shot kill them with an arrow to the head and you can fight 1 vs 4 and win with a katana or spear easily with sweeping attacks.
>>335645797
Play it like Metal Gear Solid instead, they have tiny aggro ranges. If they chase you, use drops since you recover faster so you can wail the shit out of the group and repeat again.
What are you bros playing on?
Movie mode or Action Mode?
>tfw will never get to play this game ever
Enjoy it bros.
>>335645797
use a ladder or run a looong distance, actually long. or do what the other guy said. or use a bow or stones or shurikens. so many options.
How do I change stances?
>>335645928
Played movie mode for most of the time, but it has some framerate problems in the later area, not huge though
I hope the final game will be movie mode 60, because some TN games have way more shit going on and run at 60fps
>>335646045
wtf is wrong with neo /v/?!
>>335646045
R1+square, triangle or x
>>335645994
Why? Even if you're holding off on a PS4 for the immediate future (Which is understandable, given it's generally pretty lacking on the exclusives front at the moment and with this NEO thing), just pick up one in a few years when they're cheaper and it's got enough worthwhile exclusives for you to justify getting one.
>>335646045
R1 + the face buttons.
those lil green dudes are kinda thicc
How to fix this game:
>Stamina doesn't go down straight away
>More healing items and a way to buy them
>More invincibility frames
>Make it so good armour doesn't deplete your stamina gauge in one dash or one sword strike
>>335646137
Some people think they're too good for tutorial popups then complain about the game not explaining things.
These people are the reason we get long forced tutorials, devs realized people will skip through shit then whine about not knowing what to do.
>>335645928
Action mode.
Does Action mode reduce the resolution for a higher frame rate?
>>335646221
the only thing they should do from them is to be able to buy general consumable items
the rest are literally because youre shit at the game
>>335646221
>I'm an incompetent little fuck
Kay
>>335646305
fuck those retards. I hit r1 out of coming from ds3 and figured it out on my straight away. Even a monkey would be able to figure it out ffs.
>>335645395
My only complaint thus far is that lock on doesn't have you always facing your enemy.
>>335646221
>Da fug are you talking about. No stamina debt means you need to keep an eye on it
>Donate your useless crap, you'll be drowning in pills
>Swap to low stance and dodge, those are Bloodborne Tier
>Upgrade your stats to properly use good armor
>>335646305
It's still way too much, literally every thread 10 questions about a mechanic come up and how it works.
The demo doesn't explain the shit as easy as possible, but even then. Did people enver learn to read through menus or just press shit on the controller
>>335646221
see>>335645660
that is like 280 armour or so and rank B and I can wail on enemies for fucking ages with my ki. git gud shitter.
Guess it's time to pull my PS4 out of the closet.
Is the demo not out on the EU/AUS PSN store or something?
Team Ninja has been known for making some GOD-TIER Waifus in the Ninja Gaiden Series.
Basically what it comes down to for me after completing the demo:
NO BOOBS = NO BUY
>>335646481
I don't know what to tell you man. Between the tutorial screen and just pressing buttons I thought the game was fairly easy to figure out.
If you've ever played an action game in your life this shouldn't be too complicated.
Why don't you try a bare-handed run of the game when it comes out?
>>335646625
I wish you didn't exist. Waifu shitters are the lowest form of life.
>>335646154
I don't support Sony. Their systems are always overpriced, shoddy garbage. Hell, almost any product Sony makes is overpriced, shoddy garbage.
Like I said, enjoy your game. You guys deserve something for sitting on just one or two games for so long.
>>335646624
Australia/New Zealand got it before anyone else, actually. Go into games -> demos and it'll be the first result.
>>335646625
There's a creepy as hell demon chick in the TGS trailer.
>>335646692
Bare-handed parries are Souls-tier, but not all that viable for anything more than 1-on-1.
After just finishing DaS3 NG+ it'll be nice to play another DaS-esque game, if only a few hour demo. I can't find the demo on steam, any help?
>>335646735
sup razorfist
>>335646361
I'm fine at the game, I'm iist giving honest feedback.
>>335646392
I'm fine at the game.
>>335646448
>From Software does it fair, this game doesn't do it fair
>A more reliable way would be better
>I am upgrading my stats and using the best armour I have depletes my stamina in one move. That's not fair, that's cheap.
>>335646761
I guess I just didn't look hard enough.
Axe's low stance sucks. No damage? Sure. No range? Come on.
>>335646692
Hey how do you do that parry move?!?
>>335646852
What?
>>335646864
>straight up making shit
>I am fine
no you are dsp, fuck off nigger.
WHO FUCKIN' /HIGH STANCE HEAVY ARMOR/ HERE?
FUCK YOUR LOW STANCE WEEB BULLSHIT. FIGHT LIKE A REAL SAMURAI.
>>335646980
Barehanded block+triangle/square.
No movelist for barehanded.
>>335646692
Oh shit that's fucking great
>>335647015>>335646864
making shit up*
>>335646848
Sure just typenevar evarin the search box
Are tanky characters build? Dodging feels too important. So far I dont go above green weight but I want to try other stuff.
>>335647045
>hobo samurai
why isn't this an actual game
Combine it with hobo economics Pathologic-style.
>>335647154
Blocking gives 100% invuln. Don't know if you can Ki Pulse the stamina loss, though, which gets fucking important.
>>335646864
>Stamina Debt is fair
Please, it's a baby mechanic for people who can't keep an eye on their stamina. You only enter red mode when you try to use an attack at 0, with KI pulses, that's literally impossible
>Reliable way to buy
There should be a shop since there Gold and nothing to spend on
>Upgrading stats and armor
Stop using highstance and missing then. I'm killing shit fine in the tankiest armor with the stats to meet them.
>>335646980
Barehanded-block + square. You need to clap your hands together just as the blade makes contact.
Whats Ku Pulse for?
>>335647205
What exactly is ki pulse and what does it do? Haven't really understood the mechanic yet
>>335646735
So upset.
>>335647262
Regain Ki and remove those dark clouds some enemies and bosses leave on the ground
>>335646692
I can already hear "hurr using weapons" shitposting.
>>335647324
>>335647262
Use stamina. You'll see it refill at mach speed, go red, then drain.
Tap R1 before it goes red. Ki Pulse. Means no downtime, can wail on enemies.
>>335645210
rest in peace ken-sama...
How do you get samurai points?
Wow I'm retarded. I've been going through this thing in full bulky armor and Axe, hitting twice, running around in a circle like a retard, then hitting twice again. There's a nice flow you can get down with the different stances
Switched to a Katana, unlocked some parry/bonus damage skills, and have been transitioning behind people after parries and getting critical attacks in the midst of mobs.
It's fun as fuck, thanks /v/
I hate the controls
Can someone explain stances and what the Ki pulse is and how to do it?
>>335647571
Literally look up 5 posts
Seriously /v/ what is wrong
You guys got any tips for what stats to level up? I just want to use the Katana and be fast.
>>335647468
Yeah I hope they balance the axe to be more aggressively viable in the final product. Just shit like not being able to cancel attack recovery into an evade or Ki Pulse kills the flow.
Went through the whole alpha with the axe and using it on Nui/Yoki/Oni wasn't fun.
>>335647571
>>335647417
As for stances:
High stance is slow, high damage, shit rolls.
Mid is balanced with decent guarding/parries, but no heavy attack combo finishers.
Low is low damage but fast with excellent evades.
Switch on the fly for best results.
>>335647045
Funnily enough, the High stance in real Kendo/Kenjitsu is really over-powered since its so fucking fast to just chop the opponent's head. It's not the slow cut through the body swing in the game.
Low stance or Gedan is more parry/counter orientated and was primarily a counter to polearms. It's pretty rare these days since much fewer people train with Naginatans vs the Sword
Middile stance or Chudan is accurate as the most balanced stance with good blocking so it's the first stance that beginners learn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG_oJaJ8dZg
>mfw listening to Genji OST while replaying the demo
>>335647571
To add to what the other dude said, a lot of attacks or skills are stance specific and will be indicated as such in the skill menu.
>>335647719
Skill, Heart and Body. And a little Stamina. Keep equip load under 30%.
Is there any reason to not use High Stance Spear in 1v1 encounters? I mean I guess if you want to parry shit.
>>335647967
Thanks senpatchi
>>335645210
I would be enjoying the game right now if IT DIDN'T FUCKING DISCONNECT EVERY 10 MINUTES
Why the fuck does a demo have to be always online?
>>335645210
Just played the demo and it feels like a really cheap souls clone. Into the trash it goes.
>>335648060
Make sure to get as many of the katana skills as you need, though the parry/moves are the ones you should get first.
>>335648009
Because they're fast and you need to outfast them? Because they're also using a spear and you need to parry their bitch ass?
>>335648009
It hits hard at insane range but has low combo potential. It definitely make headshots on Youkai easier though but some people prefer locking down the enemy in stunlock.
>>335648080
If you like action games it seems to have a lot more depth to it than souls combat.
If you're not concerned with combat depth then you were never going to enjoy a team ninja game.
>>335645395
Well yes the demo is to get feedback on how's the game difficulty among other things
For now you'll have to grin and bear it
>>335648152
>not wearing medium/normal armor so you can still dodge decently in high stance
>>335645395
I played the demo for about 5 mins and stopped when I realized the pleb enemies can easily 1-2 shot you.
I'll try it again tomorrow but even Souls games aren't that bad. Unless there was armor or something that I missed.
How do I save?
>>335648143
How do you get the skills? By leveling up the skill stat?
>>335648254
Yes, you are literally wearing rags and backstabs do x2 damage so you can easily get 2-shotted. Blocks are 100% so face your enemy like a man instead of running away like a pussy.
>>335648261
It autosaves on shrines
>>335645395
The introduction to the game expects you to figure it all out, which isn't the best idea when it's that punishing for fucking up.
Ingame tutorials suck, that is. Dark Souls got away with it because the game is piss-easy.
>>335648304
Level up to get samurai skill points. Spend them on skills in menu > learn skills > katana.
>get up to that house with the oni in it and four guys fucking rush you even if you try and pull them with rocks
fucking impossible it's like that shitty fight at the end of dark souls 2 there is no correct time to attack
I wish there was a way to co-op with friends in this game...
>tfw switching to ACTION MODE
already better than Bloodborne just on the virtue of being smooth
I fucking did it, I beat Nue. Anything else left to do in the demo? I know I need to find one more of those frog things.
>>335646407
This. I've unlocked on enemies multiple times because I think it's dropped when I turn around so I press lock on again.
What's with the blue glow you get sometimes while attacking/dodging?
>>335648568
Nah.
Frog things, sure, but otherwise you're done. Good work. Remember to fill out the survey.
>>335648515
what? The archer dude before always drops arrows and you can literally snipe them one by one, or lure them individually. I've done it three times since the Oni usually kills me.
Game is cool as fuck.
is this the Dark Souls of JRPGs?
The biggest point against this game for me is the stupid MMO random drop system.
I like it otherwise.
Make sure to report the issues with lock on having you face away from enemies.
>>335648542
Offer a cup although there's no password summoning in yet.
>>335648603
Dodge out of attacks. High stance can't do that, middle stance does it at a small cost and low stance does it for free.
>all the reddit shitters will get the game nerfed hard
Enjoy it now before it's too late
>>335648682
Sucked in Darksiders 2, sucks here.
How do I join someone elses game as a visitor? Also, do you get any rewards from doing coop like in dark souls?
>>335645395
too much rng is introduced honestly
you can have an easier time depending on your darksiders 2 loot system, or you're fucked if no enemies drop elixers for you.
its fucking flawed. its not going to change since LE NINJA GAIDEN DEVELOPERS
except the difference is that its consistent with ninja gaiden, its not with this game.
they went for the dark souls meme and its failing super fucking hard.
dont listen to idiots saying "whatever i had an ez time i'm already at second chapter without wasting a single healing item" they are just fucking shilling hardcore
this game is bullshit in its current state
so how is Team Ninja without Oatmeal-san around? What is that guy even doing after working on the Devil's Third?
>>335648709
Why reddit shitters? I see a ton of whining on /v/. Honestly I see more whining on here than I do on reddit.
>>335646137
>le neo /v/
hows that college degree treating you
>katana broke
What the fuck am I supposed to do now
>>335648631
See, that's odd, because I defeated the Oni on my first try, but fighting those dudes gives me tons of trouble.
>>335648656
I like it way more than the Souls game. The combat is actually very engaging, more of a better onimusha rather than classic souls game.
Kinda wished that they don't have the stupid earn souls, retrieve souls, and bloodmark stuff copied from the Souls game so that the game could stand on its own rather than being continuously compared to Souls
1. How long is this demo? If I want to beat it, should I worry that a few days isn't long enough?
2. How do I best manage my durability?
>>335648871
Use a whetstone.
>>335646221
no
>durability fixes itself after praying
GAME is FUCKING SAVED
>>335648871
Either equip a new weapon, or repair your old one.
>>335648939
How do I get it?
>>335645210
Is this fat ugly cracker wearing a fucking geisha dress?
China will be #1 superpower and then we can dress like ronald McDonald's
>>335648750
You can get a shit ton of healing items from just donating your excess items.
>>335648871
Barehanded-parry or rummage around dead bodies for a shitty one.
>>335648897
The only one of them that even hits me is the Samurai armor guy, everyone else is really easy. you can take 3/4s of their health away with one headshot
>>335646481
dont listen to this idiot>>335646630
hes a fuckin shill.
the game is really unforgiving. at least with souls game it naturally tells you
this game is all kinds of fucked
>>335648938
>How long is this demo?
Like 4or so hours depending on how good you are
>If I want to beat it, should I worry that a few days isn't long enough?
The demo is available till May 5th
>>335649000
Donate all your random shit.
>>335649000
It's a random drop. I think if you offer enough random crap to the shrine you can get some too.
>>335649064
Literally git gud. I did not die once in my first playthrough. You must be a souls baby spamming R1 like a shitter kek.
>>335649000
Either by enemies drops or offering equipment at shrines
When I go to download Mark Of the Conqueror it keeps telling me "This cannot be selected at this time". I beat the first boss, what gives? Do you have to beat Nue as well to be allowed to download it?
>>335649019
>You can get a shit ton of healing items from just donating your excess items.
yeah so continue to die until you have enough loot
thats a fucking stupid system. it doesn't fuckin help when you can die from a 2 hit combo
>le learn how to dodge and deal with it
yeah deal with it after it already happens. better pucker your fuckin anus LEL DARK SOULS EXPERIENCE SO HARDCORE
make a good ninja gaiden game again instead of shit shit will ya?
>>335649279
Only the first boss. It worked just fine for me, maybe try again later or in worst case do make a new save
>>335649064
Listen to what the dead guys say, they explain the game play.
The release of this demo made me realize how fucking crap /v/ are at video games
>>335649279
I think you can access it from the title menu.
>>335649279
No, but you get told to go to the store every time you open the demo from now on, so don't panic.
Worked for me first time though.
>>335649378
>>335649437
>>335649442
It failed on the pop-up and from the menu option. Guess I'll just try again tomorrow
I hope they'll keep the difficutly like that, needs a little bit of balancing, but that's about it. Sure the game can be hard if you go through it with the starting gear, but you can clearly see that you take less damage and deal more with every new weapon and as long as you use R1 and don't mash attack and dodge you'll never run out of Ki
>>335649425
The same thing happened when Banished came out. A lot of people crying it was too hard. /v/ is full of pretentious try hards.
>>335649548
>Team Ninja game
>have to play defensively
Ehhhhh
>>335649548
I think boss health needs some adjusting. It's not like it makes it hard but it's way too tedious and kinda takes the fun out of it
>>335649187
LE GIT GUd
Holy fuck dude. i bet you beat the game with your left dick so good dude;game has no problems.
fucking shill kill yourself XDXDXDXD
>>335649637
>pls TN only make NG games
>mfw all these skills to learn, some stance specific adding to situational awareness anddepth if combat
>mfw I suck at games it seems
>>335649715
>This autistic outburst
Who /dropped/ heya ?
>>335649187
What the fuck dude? I mean honestly?
>>335649827
Dropped my money for that pre order
>>335649750
Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive, Metroid: Other M.
Am I missing anything?
>>335649825
>reddit reaction image from google
yah shill confirmed
>William Adams was the original Ken-sama
Hehe.
>>335649637
>Defensively
You can actually swap to low stance from a high stance attack to free dodge out of it and then Ki Pulse to recover the stamina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdWIBeLGYY&feature=youtu.be
Perfect play would pretty much be bloodborne but even better with almost infinite stamina.
>>335649659
You're supposed to discover the specific weakness of the boss to stamina break him and use the living weapon to annihilate him. Nue for instance breaks instantly when you smack his head when he charges lightning.
>>335648772
Being irrelevant, he's paying the price for cursing and shitting on Sony
>>335649798
>mfw I didn't know there was a "down" option to see more skills
I wasted so many skill points on the first 4 upgrades.
>Rolling extinguishes fire
neat
>>335649715
>He beat the demo on his first play-through without dying
It's posts like these that make me believe in paid shills tbqh familium.
>>335649425
The game isn't even that hard.
>>335650003
whats ki pulse?
TN is making a possible GOAT game and raking money with DOAX3. Meanwhile Itagaki is kill.
Life is not fair
What level were you when you got to the bosses? I'm just sneaking around cause I'm getting my ass kicked but I'm afraid of being underleveled. This doesn't seem like a game where you do a sl1 run.
>>335650003
>It's always spear or katana
Yeah I was using axe, probably the reason.
>>335650052
Exactly, all it takes is some patience and utilizing your equipment. Yet /v/ will still cry and call anyone who is not bad at video games a shill.
>>335649827
Reporting in Tubmlr Toad
It's kind of sad to see Team Ninja falling so hard for the Dark Souls meme to rake in some of that cash.
>>335650003
>Nue for instance breaks instantly when you smack his head when he charges lightning
Really they have instant break spots? I knew they had weak spots like the first boss would get stunned if you hit his head enough but I didn't know that
Not complaining here, but what is the purpose of immobility for running out of stamina?
I mean it's not even a weak trod or pitiful walk, you literally just stop.
>>335650114
FUCK YOU
Can anyone advise me on durability management?
I'm anxious about proceeding until I know a good strategy so I don't end up breaking all my gear or especially any good items. Is there any way to pay a reasonable price for repairs down the line? Are there any items I should unequip rather than risk losing?
Knocking people off buildings in this game is the fucking best.
>>335650114
Maybe that's because Itagaki fucked up. Just a thought.
>>335645210
So my spirit thing in the top left made a noise and is glowing, but I have no fucking idea what it means.
I tried all the buttons and nothing new happened. I tried to see if I some how leveled up the spirit but when I pray everything looks the same.
What gives?
>>335650173
exactly.
i had the developer copy and like, they melted with my katana.
HAHAH you guys having problems with this alpha game? lmao whatever goodluck fags
>>335650189
Yeah, I was baiting the lightning storm attack by hiding in the bell shelters when I noticed he always break from a heavy attack in his head. Might just be a huge multiplier though
>>335650196
It only happens when you try to use something at 0 stamina which is impossible if you are Ki pulsing out of every attack.
>>335650173
Pretty much
My first opponent was one of those red phantom fucks and I killed him easily but I wasn't paying attention and backed into the lone samurai by the fire and died lol
I died a few more times while practicing switching stances but I'm all good now. Pretty fun game. Plays like Souls but I read the gameplay is based off of Omimushi? I haven't played that game so I'm not sure.
>>335650431
could you explain this? I don't get what the pulsing is. Is it the circle and triangle attack?
>>335650081
>>335650081
That glimmer of blue after each attack
>>335650330
Press circle+triangle to unleash your spirit best
>>335650227
Gather loot and throw them at the shrine to get repair items. Also, unless it's a boss unique item, it will get super-seceded quickly
>>335650330
Triangle+Circle to go into rape mode.
>>335650227
seems like you're meant to focus on drops and get new weapons. You're not really meant to repair and keep your fav weapon the whole game it seems.
>>335645210
Hakuna Matata /v/, my name is Jumbo Gumbo.
I'm a 27 year old American Afriboo (African fan for you white devils). I draw with berries and maggots on my stone tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior African games (Starving to Death, AIDS, Ball in a Cup).
I train with my bostaff every day, this inferior weapon can't cut clean through anything cause it's a stick, and is vastly inferior to any other weapon on Earth. I earned my bostaff license two years ago, and have been getting better with it every day.
I speak mouth clicking fluently, both Hibbity and Bibbity dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about African history and their Tribal Codes which I follow 100%.
When I get my Visa, I am moving to the Congo to not attend a prestigious college cause there isn't one. I hope I can make it past age 50!
I don't own any clothes, so I don't wear anything around town. I want to get used to walking around butt naked before I move to Africa, so I can fit in easier. I make clicking noises and rape my elders as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Well, wish me luck in Africa!
>>335650592
Good luck
>>335650529
No, it's literally just R1 after a combo to regain a portion of your used stamina. No timing needed though I wish a Just input will recover more than you lost.
>>335650279
>Maybe that's because Itagaki fucked up. Just a thought.
After Itagaki left we got NGSigma2 which was atrocious, followed by NG3 which practically killed the series. Not even NG3RE can salvage Ninja Gaiden. It seems like a classic "lead dev left, team goes to shit."
But then TN turned it around with DOA5 and Nioh while Itagaki made a disaster that is Devil's Third. I don't know that to believe anymore
>>335650196
it's to punish you for mashing square, and to reward you for managing to deplete an enemy's stamina
>>335650634
You can time it though, to get back more
>>335650227
Balance out your pieces of armor so that you don't need to repair as often.If you die a lot like meyou'll probably have lots of armor the enemies dropped.
But yeah, the durability is about the main problem with this game. They should just make it like DKS2, and make the shrines restore your armor and weapons
I like the finishers. Would be nice if you could finish off downed enemies though.
That or I'm not doing it right.
>>335650557
>>335650581
Is it easy to know which items are unique and which aren't?
>blood phantoms follow the fighting style of the owner
That's neat. You actually get high level shitters who square-spam until they're panting and low level guys who use ki pulses properly.
>>335650818
You can do a ground finisher. Just attack get close and attack when they are done.
did this game pull the farming bullshit
>>335645660
Some kind of super mode like god of war? Lasts very long though.
>>335650818
Trinagle near a downed enemy will have a powerful downwards stabbing attack like in Onimusha.
>>335650921
If you die a bunch, yes you'll have to farm for gear to exchange for whetstones and Elixers.
>>335651178
alright shill
>>335650183
>It's kind of sad to see Team Ninja falling so hard for the Dark Souls meme
As a soulsfag who's never played Ninja Gaiden, I kind of agree. The only original gameplay element are the stance change ability, and the special meter, and both of them feel awkward.
It's too similar to soulsborne, if I were them I'd at least try to put my own spin on it instead of just tweaking the formula to accomodate minor changes. Either way, I'm happy that the "souls meme" is being memed, since just about every other game feels so boring and pointless.
>>335646221
Weapons and armor get repaired when you pray
Lock on has you face the enemy always
>Barehanded counter instant-kills anything with 1600 or lower health.
>There's no hard counter for it other than spamming items or such
Eh, PvP is going to need a lot of balancing.
>>335651273
No, that's just what's going to happen if you die a bunch. It's pretty lame.
I'm looking at the skill tree for this ninja suriken shit and like, magic
where the FUCK do you get EITHER of those?
>>335646221
>Stamina doesn't go down straight away
>More healing items and a way to buy them
>More invincibility frames
No, git gud.
>Make it so good armour doesn't deplete your stamina gauge in one dash or one sword strike
Japan didn't have heavy armor so that would be dumb. And even good heavy armor shouldn't do that. Hits should drain stamina but maybe not as much.
Maybe a magic ability would be better.
>>335646864
No, you're shit at the game.
>>335651530
You assign it at a shrine.
>>335651351
>lock on has you face the enemy always
It factually doesn't unless you hold block, otherwise your camera faces him but "you" the character does not.
MAKE SURE YOU DO THE SURVEY SO THEY CAN FIX WHATS WRONG LIKE GANK SQUADS, BAD 2006 TEXTURES, NO GOOD MUSIC, BOW BEING OP, AND SUMMONING BOSS HEALTH
http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/nioh_uk
Just an FYI for people having a hard time. Elixir's gained from making offering's to the Kodama are permanent and will come back if you pray at the alter
>>335651675
The game will look like the movie mode, but will most likely run at 60fps. They won't change eery fucking texture in the game at this point. It was supposed to be a PS3 game and this is probably what's left of it + a few current gen particles. Otherwise the game would probably never come out
>>335651807
No they aren't.
Elixers just don't drain if you pray/die with more than 3.
I like this better than DSIII. The combat has way more depth and the atmosphere is fantastic
>offered all additional equipment I've had the entire fucking demo to the shrine
>not given a single whetstone
y'all are some fucking liars. all I got were those health item that get taken away once you use them anyway which sucks ass. I thought we solved that dumbass problem with Dark Souls 1.
Fucking retarded Team Ninja making me switch to shittier and shittier weapons because they can't give me a way to repair the one i like.
>>335651937
Better PS3 textures and higher FPS than PS4 textures and 24 fps.
>>335652080
Well, i'm not saying anything against that.
>>335651807
Wait, so I just keep offering shitty drops to the shrine until they give me elicits? Because all I get are amrita so far. On a side note, loving how the game is Japanese as fuck with the Shinto and Buddhist fusion stuff.
>>335651941
Are you sure? I used all my elixirs on the boss and died. Respawned with three and when I prayed I got back up to 4
how does the visiting system work? I offered a cup, and was playing for a while but nothing happened. It looks like it's supposed to invite other players but I didn't see anything/anyone. Nor did I see a way to visit someone else's game.
>>335651671
I'm saying they should make that change.
>>335652169
I know, I was just adding to your post.
>>335651675
>le gank squad meme
Try to fight 1v4 melee in real life. There's this thing called backing down and using your brain instead of trying to anime your way out of a group of enemies
>>335645210
>Boss on the boat
So are the balls bullshit or are they bullshit? Cause I'm getting hit when nowhere near them. Also doing like 70 damage a hit, what am I doing wrong here?
>>335651965
break open boxes on the beach at the end of the first level. enemies also drop them.
>Farming all those champion fucks near the Mansion entrance hoping I'll get something decent
>Blue weapon drops
>It's a lame ass hammer.
So far my weapon of choice is the Spear, Spear High-Stance is fucking beast.
Any advice on attributes fellas?
>>335651941
>>335652295
Also I watched a guy on stream who always had 10 elixirs after praying
So can you learn all the skills in the demo at this time?
>>335652352
I'm saying don't place enemies in groups of fucking 4 when you can't help but stumble upon them or use janky shit to pull them 1 by 1 because the fighting system can't handle it.
Also shut up about real life this is the dev that made dynasty warriors
Is there a lore justification why Ken-sama keep dying and trying over and over again ?
At least in Dark Souls and Bloodborne there's kind of a lore justification for that. I feel like the Souls element of the game (except the combat of course) is not necessary. It does a great disservice to the game because the "skin" is very dark souls like.
>>335652510
if you donate all your items if you go over 10 elixers the shrine will hold on to them and replenish them if you go under 10.
>>335652374
During the first phase I think it's actually better to stay close since you can reliably block the chain (I usually got my shit shoved down my throat trying to block the actual balls) and dodge through as well. During the second phase the tracking or timing on the throws feels wonky, I actually think it's easier to get back and dodge them from a distance since you actually have a clear visual.
I wonder how Ken-sama is doing these days.
>>335652695
He died in the tsunami.
>>335652565
What group of 4? The house at the top of the hill? You're not supposed to barge in from the front gate, but through the forest.
>Please tell us how we can make the game better
They're absolutely going to gut this game because some casual faggots and dark souls niggers are giving their shit-for-brains "input."
Could have been a great game.
>>335652479
high stance spear, low stance to dodge works great on the second boss.
>no way to get enough stamina to wear even the armor you get from the first demon thing in the first fucking level without fat-rolling like a motherfucker
brilliant game design
>>335652695
>>335652718
never forget
>>335652729
>They're absolutely going to gut this game because some casual faggots and dark souls niggers are giving their shit-for-brains "input."
>Could have been a great game.
This. DS fags are gonna be like "muh durability too low, I don't understand what stances are and what ki pulses are."
>>335652975
I don't get why Ki Pulse is such an issue.
All the Soulsfags have to do, since they're just the brodudes of APRGs, is channel their Gears of War days. It's literally the same thing as active reloading and there's entire montages of that shit on Youtube.
>>335652975
Maybe they'll just slap in a casual mode where enemies die in 1 hit and you barely take damage
>>335652975
It is Team Ninja so there is a good chance they will see those complaints and make the game harder
>>335652695
Ken-sama reached the park near the beach, he like to watch kids playing as it is a something that can warm his pure heart. Suddenly, a sudden tremor. No, it’s more terrifying than that, it’s an earthquake, a huge one. The ground was shaking and beginning to crack, Ken-sama look at the children, they were running away terrified, “minna san! do not run around! Stay in place!” The kids couldn’t understand what he was saying, he gestured what he was trying to say, he ordered the kids to stay in the middle of the park as it is too dangerous. But that was Ken-sama’s mistake, he look at the beach from afar. It was huge, a tsunami is coming. Ken-sama widened his eyes and look at the children and yelled every Japanese word he knew “Arigatou gozaimasu! Gomenasai! Run away minna-san!” The children ran away, the wave is coming, it was at least 100ft tall. Ken-sama was ashamed with himself, he should have anticipated this, if he did the children would be far away by now. “sumimasen mina-san, it was my mistake”, he took his hidden katana and dual wield with the bokken and katana. As he ran towards the tsunami trying to stop it, he uttered his last words. “Arigatou obasan, ojisan. For taking care of me” The wave rise even higher. A shout is heard; “Nippon banzai!”.
>>335652861
that was proven fake, his wife confirmed he was still alive
>>335652725
And if you do? You're supposed to eat the death anyway because the game can't handle more than 1v1? That is crap and you know it.
>>335653230
>wife
>Game expects me to spend valuable skill points dedicating myself to one weapon type (axe, katana, spear, etc)
>Yet game won't let me USE one fucking weapon type because it won't give me any fucking whetstones
inb4 "hurr go farm them". nah that sucks balls. That is a shitty design choice straight up. Don't waste my time.
>boss has spinning aoe attack
>boss arena is small as shit
Kill me.
>>335653154
Oatmeal cookie is not there anymore though. With such generous Alpha demo, it's obvious that TN and Tecmo want to get some feedback. If this was a NG game with Oatmeal cookie at the helm there's no chance that an alpha demo would come out
>>335653371
lol casual
>>335653375
Just switch to midstance and block you dumb shit
>>335653338
Or just use a spear or an axe with CC stances and kill them all you whiney ass bitch.
>>335653371
>farm them
my item bag is always full without even trying because fucking everything drops tons of shit, what are you even doing
>>335653371
I used all three weapon types throughout the game. Its fine.
Also how do you run out of whetstones I had nine when I killed the 2nd boss, and had to constantly use one when another dropped. same with armor stones or w/e
Are you just using Katana all the time?
>>335653465
Yeah because that is so reliable
>>335653457
Oh I can block it? Figured it would just guard break me since it's huge as shit.
>>335653575
>Yeah because that is so reliable
It is.
>>335653632
mid stance is made to block.
>>335653632
When he throws the balls it'll guard break you, but when he's swinging them on the chain you can block it pretty well assuming you have stamina.
>>335653575
A good axe easily kills multiple enemies and every ambush is obvious as fuck, you can see them from a mile away
>>335653736
Half the time they clip behind me to hit me anyway, this boss has retarded hitboxes
>>335653503
Getting fucked by RNG apparently.
I sell everything that isn't already equipped by me because APPARENTLY the game is supposed to give me whetstones. But NOPE. It hasn't given me ONE.
>>335653575
I'm not using ANYTHING all the time because everything runs out of durability so quickly. At this exact second I'm using an axe because it's op as fuck.
Why is he wearing the wrong robe?
>>335653647
No it isn't. You have to kite them around like a fucking faggot completely shattering immersion just to get one good hit in and dodge before you get chain stunned to death. And if one of them is a ronin good fucking luck trying to stun him out of his combo, also he does more damage too because why not.
So fuck you for defending obvious bad game design.
>>335652374
The boss is the most incomplete part of the game. Hit boxes are wonky and sometimes he just stops moving. One time he threw me one of those balls and it changed trajectory mid air. Like it glitched out.
>>335653884
>waah wahhh I am bad at this game
Go back to Dark Souls kid.
>>335653884
>shattering immersion
I want to be special Ken-sama snowflakes, the best samurai there ever was in my japanese video game.
The boat boss took me like 30 tries but I finally did it and downloaded the Mark of the Conqueror. Is it the end or is there more? Because I accidentally started the first mission again and can't go back to the map.
>>335654086
There's more.
>>335654076
I do too anon.
>>335653338
>And if you do?
- I want to barge into enemy fortress barefist
- Waah... it's not fair, the game doesn't allow me to be One Punch Man
Getting my ass beat by the oni that spawns in the house
I feel like I can mathematically beat him but I'm never sure when it's safe to attack
>>335654234
So you're supposed to eat the death because bad game design. Thanks.
>>335654242
Lure him outside, chuck the firebombs on him.
>>335653338
>And if you do?
Then you fucked up for not being careful. You can still beat them but its harder. By the way you can pull all of them one by one with rocks. I did it.
>tfw the set NPC blood phantoms don't drop their weapons
Player phantoms are pretty unpredictable, sometimes they're skilled as fuck with mixup moves, sometimes they're one move spammers.
>>335654362
>Plays like a retard
>Wow bad game design
Is Sens Fortress all over again. DSP please go.
>>335654362
-There are two path.
-One path through the front door is heavily guarded, with many enemies aggroing at the same time.
-The other path goes around the back and into the same place.
-The game allows for unlimited retries, literally trial error gameplay
If you use half of your brain, you would've taken the second path rather than raging like an autist shiposting and crying in a Korean imageboard
>>335654505
Because they copy their owner's playstyle.
Also, it'll drop a piece of equipment, usually.
>>335654604
>Korean imageboard
Vietnamese.
>>335654503
>or use janky shit to pull them 1 by 1
you have to hug the walls and fight the camera if you want to single them out. And that is only after being ambushed the first time since hey they are right on the other side of the wall with no way to know before hand that they are there. But you can see the armored ronin, but if you pull him it pulls all of them.
This was the first souls game ive ever played and it reminded me why i dont like the series. So fucking stupid how everything kills you in one hit. Hope this turd flops
Will this game have pvp?
>>335654604
None of those reason excuse bad game enemy placement and bad fighting systems anon.
Game will be casualized to hell
Goddamn finally I beat it.
Holy fuck, element resist is strong in this game. I just equipped about 3 or so pieces and Nue went and did around 400 or so less damage with that lightning bolt.
>>335654689
>dude has awesome weapon
>drops mariner shirt
>>335645581
You're supposed to use that style restore mechanic at low stamina, it helps alot.
Dark Souls is fucking disgusting. I just want an Onimusha/Ninja Gaiden dueling type game. Replayed Demon Siege and it was ten times more fun than Souls. Seriously fuck Dark Souls.
>>335654727
I literally pulled all of them one by one. None of them agro.
>another game where heavy armor is pretty much worthless
What are some games where I can throw on the heaviest shit and slug it out with enemies?
>>335654939
pull the ronin with the rock then get back to me.
>>335645210
Game certainly has promise, the boss fight on the boat really makes me wonder though.
Pros:
Setting is cool
Combat is great in 1v1 scenarios and even 2v1's if you get good enough
Gear is pretty cool looking
Actually challenging and requires thought instead of spamming
Cons:
Boss on the boat has absolutely retarded hitboxes and did fuckloads of damage.
Everything does a bit too much damage
Weapon diversity is really limited, hopefully they add more
Level up skills are boring as shit "Add X% to X" so on so forth
Dashes are damn near useless most of the time since you can just run in a circle to avoid hits instead, I hate running away when I hold back.
Durability is just annoying rather than interesting. It was either feast or famine.
I like it overall, just hope they tighten it up significantly before release.
>>335655010
Done.
>>335654825
>Bad enemy placement
>Bad fighting system
You said you don't want to kite, don't want to "break immersion," don't want to throw pebbles and fight them 1v1. All this despite there's a second path in which you don't have to go 1v4. So you'd rather a literal roadblock then?
>>335655067
Retard wants to rush and spam attack like it was Dark Souls. No strat or patience.
>>335645210
■ Difficulty & Game Balance
Very bad
Doesn't feel balanced at all. Game is abusively difficult and off putting. Needs to be seriously fixed. I understand these games should be hard but this feels cheap and irritating.
Survey sent. Yes I've completed it.
>>335655067
How about instead of hiding the enemies where the only way you could see them beforehand coming up the hill is if you already knew they were there, how about instead they jump off the roof of the mansion and you could see them by looking up instead of hugging the badly textured wall and fighting the camera to see the ambush. At least then I could accept that it was my fault if there was SOMEWAY to see it coming if you don't go through the forrest.
>these demon things that spawn past the third bonfire
yeah nah
you held my interest for a while, but now we're fucking done
>>335652374
Stand right in front of him, point blank.
If he raises his right (your left) arm, dash right and poke him with one Heavy Mid.
If he raises his left (your right) arm, dash left and poke him with one Heavy Mid.
If he raises both arms to swing both at once, dash in either direction and poke.
Typically if your dash brings you to his side/back, he'll follow up with a spinning attack. After your poke, either raise your guard and tank the two hits or immediately dash+roll to get out of range, then run back in.
You should use Heavy Mid Attack is that it deals the most Ki damage with the least downtime. Whittle down his Ki until it depletes and then beat the everloving shit out of him for as long as you can before he recovers. If you keep using Ki Pulse after each flurry of Light swings, you can keep him down for a long time, likely long enough to put him in his second phase with just one stagger.
In his second phase, run circles around him up close, periodically dashing to the side. Because the turn tracking in the game is deliberately slow for everyone (including you), virtually all of his attacks will whiff as you run around him. When he goes to pick up one of his balls, get some distance so you can see his arm clearly - dash to the side just as he begins to bring his arm down.
The biggest danger here is when he drops down his miasma fields that stunt your Ki regen. If you have the Onmyo Skill "Kekkai" that purifies the area and boosts your Ki regen, use it. It's fucking awesome.
Again whittle down his Ki with cautious Mid pokes until he's stunned. As soon as his Ki goes red, activate your Guardian Spirit (circle+triangle if your meter is full) and then mash the fuck out of square. You may very well be able to kill his helpless ass with a flurry of attacks before he gets up and your spirit depletes. If not, end your powered up state with a heavy attack before time runs out and repeat.
Also dash around the room to break all the boxes in advance.
tfw you can't 2kat
>>335655314
If it's a quarter based arcade game sure you're justified to get mad.
However trial and error is the name of the game here. You died, so what. Try again, you get unlimited retries. Should all mimics and traps be eliminated from Dark Souls then?
Is it me or does the spear suck huge cocks? Not as strong as the axe and not nearly as fun to play with as the katana.
>>335655452
Unlike its skills and it turns fun and good.
>>335654809
Given the (not functioning in the demo) Visitor system at the shrine where you offer a bowl to summon someone else, yes.
>>335655452
It is meant for crowd control and poking the zombies who doesnt have any range I think
>>335655309
What even is this game about?
I got into game, I found my way to a shiny thing and pressed O. Suddenly some level 18 dude spawns and 1-hits me with a long-ass spear.
How is this fun?
>>335655367
I appreciate the response but I killed him a minute ago, hopefully this helps another anon. I ended up bursting the shit out of him in the 1st phase and in the 2nd just lamed it out and dodged his much easier to avoid attacks and poked at him when he was laying flat.
Honestly if the hitboxes on the balls in the 1st phase were better I'd consider it a good boss.
>>335655452
Spear is the hardest weapon to master, but once you learn the leg sweeps and stuff it's the strongest.
>>335655447
>trial and error
People like you are reason Dark Souls II is popular
>Should all mimics and traps be eliminated from Dark Souls then?
No because there is a tangible difference between a chest and a mimic. the chain is different you can lloyd's or hit it to discover a mimic. Not only that there are a dozen fucking messages around it from other people telling you its a mimc.
Since this game doesn't have messages, it has to rely on good enemy placement.
Why why why do you have to completely freeze and pant when your stamina runs out? I was having a lot of fun the first couple runs, when I got to the zombie guys that crawl at you and such. Was pretty cool. Then I just lost my touch and every single time I have to fight more than one enemy, I slip up on the targeting and get obliterated.
Ill give it another go tomorrow.
>>335650723
>>335650634
Also i'm pretty sure a perfect Ki Pulse fucks the Yokai stamina draining shit
>all my weapons and armor are broken
>offer all my shit up
>get nothing
>parry early enemies with my hands
>nothing drops
Damn shame. This could've been a fun game.
I find it very hard to believe you don't get a single armor or weapon drop.
I'm putting all my points in skill cause it gives 2 samurai points per level. I'm sure this will in no way come back to bite me in the ass later.
>shit breaks all the time
>not enough stamina to wear heavy gear
>boss kills you in like three hits
>if you try to go in for even one hit he'll just spam a massive aoe attack that is nigh impossible to dodge in the balls tiny room
>>335656730
acquire proficiency
>>335655374
Yet
Your equip durability takes a heavy hit if you're hit in the back right?
>Boat boss 2 shots you even if you block
>Meanwhile you do tiny pissbaby damage, even in supermode.
Sorry, the gameplay is great but the difficulty needs massive tweaking.
>>335656982
Its funny the my Souls boss videos are twice as long as the nioh boss videos I put up today yet it feels like I do less damage, but that can't be right.
>Trying to come to grips with attributes, waste 6-8levels trying to even spread shit.
>Best weapons that drop favor body
Welp, guess I'm a Str/Body fag with my Spear & Axe
Also
>Get to the trio zombie things (Yokai? Can someone correct me?) they burst into treats literally
>Humans(?) are starting to also
>Think I've like 30+ In Drop Rate for Equipment, Yokai & Humans. Think all of it fucking stacks. So it could be 60+ To humans and Yokai
Holy fuck, Too bad most of the stuff dropping is shit
Also
>Get Longbow
>Snipe a mofo for a 1 hit kill
I'm gonna have fun using this on those elite bandits in the mansion entrance.
Also how do you discern the "Dev" Revenants? Are their names in red?
>>335646692
>fistfags
not as bad as katanafags but still shit
>>335657087
They have jap names like Scuzo the Wanderer or have a gold glow to them.
>drop rate tied to weapon equipped
Not sure if daijobu.
Can someone explain to me how to do the teleportation jutsu? When I use the spear, I block and press triangle when locked on to someone, but the character never teleports behind the enemy. I want to pssh nothing personel people.
You can get whetstones by destroying the boxes to the left of the very first shrine in the demo.
Onimusha Souls starring William Adams from the Witcher series.
>>335646692
boring as fuck.
twitchtv/maximilian_dood
>mfw this is how souls babbies play and will complain about it being too hard
I don't know what Revenants are.
Is that pvp? Does not seem nearly laggy enough to be another player.
They emote though, so maybe they are?
>>335657653
They're NPC versions of players who died. They use the player's gear and emulate their playstyle. If you beat them you can get a piece of the gear they have.
>TFW I BEAT THE ONI
Motherfucker I swear to god, I had to run away and beat him with my axe so many damn times. If any of you guys still have a fire bomb, use that shit.
>>335657087
Right i'm curious
Is there any difference between the Dev revenants and players?
Hey does any samurai here know how I could assist someone in their world through co-op?
>>335657365
So I noticed. Seems items have a random chance if respawning when you rest at the shrine. Time to farm. Don't judge me, weapon durability is shit.
>>335658095
When you finish the first level you go into the overworld and can select to matchmake with someone in either of the levels.
favorite little dead story is the two ladder dudes in the beach.
The one who is angry because the kid didn't drop the ladder leading to his death and the kid on top of the ladder dead apologizing for the dude's death.
>>335656390
>mfw fighting with broken weapon and doing alright cause I roll and "backstab" everything
Starting to get the hang of the combat.
>>335657919
>>335657919
Dev Revenants shit out a higher grade, and quantity of equipment when you fleece their asses.
Also
>Trying to figure out how to gain skill points
>Mffw I notice I've been sitting on 26 fucking Samurai Points
>No clue what I want to invest them in
>FFFFFFFFF
>>335656663
I'm drowning in armor and offering it to the gods. Revenants always drop something.
>>335658343
get the parry shit first.
So pressing R1 the end of a combo regains a bit of your stamina?
>>335658453
yes
I like the demo but it has a similar problem to souls where it seems like randomly the game will choose whether or not your attack interrupts them. There must be some formula but it's not super easy to figure out, and kind of frustrating to die to it.
>>335655570
dumbass
>>335658453
>>335658453
Regains a bit of stamina regardless of point in the combo from what I can tell.
Kinda like those breathing exercises you see Shaolin or Tai Chi practioners do, where they sound like they're trying to force out a a burn in the quietest whispy way possible.
HSSSSSTTTTT
Are there/ will there be invasions?
>>335658545
Just means you gotta approach with caution.
New enemy? Stick to low stance light attacks. Got his opening figured out? Move up to something meatier. Keep notching it up until it staggers.
>>335650010
>think I'm hot shit cause have almost all katana skills unlocked
>there are skill trees for spear, axes,ninja stuff and magic
WAKE ME UP
>no bare handed skills
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>335658453
Not quite, you want to wait for the stamina to refill at mach speed before pressing R1.
>>335658545
It's not random, it's based on enemy type.
>ALL enemies have uninterruptable armour frames while attacking (unless out of Ki)
>Humanoid enemies can be stunlocked outside of that, Larger enemies cannot
>You can get any enemy into a stagger loop once they're out of Ki. Includes bosses.
Those are the rules. In Dark Souls it was based around breaking invisible poise and them gaining it back in a second regardless of you wailing on them.
This doesn't apply to revenants, who play by the PC's rules and therefore always eat shit.
>>335658780
>no bare handed skills
There's only one that matters and you have it by default.
Just uninstalled this. Reminded me of Razors Edge in all the bad ways. And made me more impressed with Souls combat system.
How can the Souls games have such tight combat?
>>335654019
It's amazing to see the birth of a more cancerous fanbase than even fucking Dark souls, the most cancerous fanbase on /v/. And all of that over a simple Alpha Demo.
>>335658959
Ninja Gaiden's fanbase has been around forever, this is an extension of that.
You weren't in DMC threads to see these fanboys continually interrupt just to say that NG is better?
>>335659069
Ninja Gaiden is better
>>335659117
Thanks anon.
>>335658862
You have a weapon grab and shit hand to hand skills. I want to be a bare fisted monk.
>>335659203
Throw it in the survey.
>>335659281
Oh you bet your ass I will.
>>335659069
I remember those. Still, it's a alpha demo. It's exactly the time for people to voice their complaints. Telling people to get good and that they suck at an early build of a game isn't helping. Had this been the full release there wouldn't be a problem.
I'm fine with the difficulty but the equipment breakage is a huge turnoff.
>>335659360
Quite a few people have been asking for purchasable whetstones and glue from the shrines or a blacksmith option so you can repair equipment at shrines for gold; so make sure to say something about these in the survey.
>>335658792
Yeah I'm fucking up somehow. I'm getting the blue flash but stamina a doesn't quite refill.
>>335658453
Specifically, a Ki Pulse does two things.
1. Recovers some of the Ki used in your most recent attack (the white section within the red section)
2. Cuts out the delay (the red section filling up to white and then having a small pause) before your depleted Ki begins to regen
The white section is what you'll recover when you perform the Pulse. The earliest you can Pulse most of the time is when the white has covered roughly half of the red, but if you delay your timing just a bit longer, you can pulse and recover almost everything from your last swing.
DaS > BB > DeS > Ni-Oh demo > DaS3 > DaS2
>>335659505
Look at the stamina bar when you use some attacks. Don't need to hit anything. See it refill, fast. See it turn red then drop.
Hit R1 before it drops. Too soon, little stamina gain. Too late, none.
>>335652342
Why? It works as intended currently. You can even dodge out of guard and the few seconds you need to recharge ki is trivial.Unless you aren't parrying, shame on you anon
I honestly wonder how many shitters complaining about stamina depletion are using high stance and heavy armor.
Fuck this second level, goddamn.
>>335654825
"Wahh I can't play game (insert) way! The devs designed it around a certain playstyle and I don't like this!"
Kill you are self my man.
>>335645553
My light armor was breaking every 1-2 hits from Nue, pretty retarded.
Also str builds are shit, heartana ftw.
Shit breaks way too fast.
>>335652310
It's give and take. Once you beat the first mission you can hit square on the world map to be summoned to a player in that level. Hope they add a way to summon and be summoned by friends.
>>335652374
Hold X. Attack after he stops attacking. Profit?
Can someone answer some questions for me?
What do the stances do and which is the best stance out of the four?
Can you backstab enemies in this game? If you can, how?
What's the best way of taking down an enemy? I feel like every time I hit them my combo gets interrupted and then they release a full (KO) combo on me?
Also, tips would greatly help me out. Thanks.
>>335660262
What playstyle is that? Stand there and die because the devs can't handle more than 1v1 without it being janky as fuck?
>>335653371
BREAK. BOXES.
>>335660614
There's only three stances for each weapon-type, the "fourth" one is just a manual sheath. Each one has a different moveset; think of each one being like a weapon's mode in BB.
No backstabbing, but enemies take double damage if they're hit from behind.
Play conservatively and fiddle around with the different movesets and stances until you're comfortable with the mechanics.
>>335660614
>What do the stances do and which is the best stance out of the four?
High stance is focused on all out heavy attacks, mid stance is based around blocking and parrying, low stance is for dodging and fast attacks. The last sheathes your weapon and can be used for special attacks. Mid stance should be your go to in the beginning.
>Can you backstab enemies in this game? If you can, how?
You can't, but if they're out of stamina you can crit them.
>What's the best way of taking down an enemy? I feel like every time I hit them my combo gets interrupted and then they release a full (KO) combo on me?
Parry and blow them out. Take people on one at a time using rocks and arrows.
>>335659357
>Offer tips to help
>"No I won't do that"
>Blamed for telling him he's a shitter.
>>335660614
There are other posts that explain stances better
High and med are going to get a lot of use
No
bait attacks then damage their stam and go in for the kill works for all humans. Attack oni from behind in high stance will deplete their bar quickly.
>>335660856
How do I Parry? Is it the one where I clap my hands together? Can I Parry with a weapon?
>>335660963
In the katana skills, you can unlock three different parries. Block and hit the appropriate button when an enemy is attacking.
>>335660963
You need to buy the skill from the menu, you can't do it by default.
>>335660963
>clap my hands
That's the one.
Katanas and Spears can parry, but not riposte. Bare-handed ripostes, and it ripostes the FUCK out of an enemy.
>>335660664
You are missing the point friendo. The challenge is to divide and conquer. Either pull them with rocks, bow or shuriken and if more than one comes use mobility or a weapon like spear to target individuals. I have no idea what else to tell you.
>>335661060
The axe has a sort of manual parry, which actually works really well to fuck up an enemy attack, though it doesn't do much damage.
Thanks everyone I really appreciate the help!
>>335661107
The "Roar" skill? Never ended up using that.
>when the little cyclops yokai transforms
>>335661142
Not sure if it's called roar, but it's the one where you block with the axe and hold down x. It charges an enemy and will knock them out of their combo.
I can't seem to find the demo on steam.
>>335660664
>>335661096
Also holy shit just press Triangle+Circle and enjoy invincibility, infinite stamina and MASSIVE DAMAGE.
>>335661209
Makes them easier to deal with, itty bitty cyclops spams that i-frame laden dodge and the lickitongue shit that does NO damage, fucking heal.
>>335661229
Yeah that's it.
Would've been nice to know that. This game.
I'm hoping they balance the game difficulty, to be honest. It's way too challenging for a 'normie', such as myself. It's also a minor nitpick, but I hate how you face away from the enemy when you're locked on. It makes him look like a bitch ass. Proper strafing would be nice.
>when you run into 2 or more enemies
>>335660614
>What do the stances do and which is the best stance out of the four?
There's only three stances. The fourth stance is sheathing your weapon. I think it depends on your weapon. High stance on the spear is for more 1v1 encounters while mid stance on the spear is for crowd control. For the sword, I feel like the higher the stance, the heavier the attacks.
>Can you backstab enemies in this game? If you can, how?
There's no animation for backstabbing it seems, but if you hit an enemy in the back, it deals double the damage I think.
>What's the best way of taking down an enemy? I feel like every time I hit them my combo gets interrupted and then they release a full (KO) combo on me?
huh, I don't feel this. Make sure you don't run out of stamina?
>that first fucking boss
good lord who thought those gigantic sweeping attacks were a good idea, it's absurd
>>335661427
Hug his ass, dash back when he telegraphs his pirouette.
This isn't Nui's instakill/two-shotting bullshot, first boss goes pretty easy on your asshole.
By the way, the best way to absolutely murder regular enemies
>Mid stance parry that puts you behind them
>Switch to high stance and heavy attack
Kills pretty much every human enemy instantly.
>>335661493
Human enemies stop being a threat pretty quickly regardless.
>>335646221
>More invincibility frames
how about no
>>335661548
Well, that's true.
Except for the fucking ninjas.
>>335646221
>More invincibility frames
Keep load below 30%
Switch to low stance.
I-frames for days.
>>335661409
Hold guard to strafe while facing a locked enemy. You can dodge out of it and certain stances skills and weapons require you to guard for shit.
>>335646407
Yup, and pressing L1 to strafe slow is a poor substitute
>>335646407
Considering how much of the combat is based around hitting the enemy from the back or side, I can dig it.
Balanced by enemies not always facing you either.
>>335661660
Does that track? Hope not.
>even people on /v/ whining about the game being hard
>game will inevitably be made easier before release
fucking why, hopefully they just make an easy mode for people who can't deal with it instead of just nerfing it all across the board
Anyone else buying this game?
This demo was fucking great and I'm hyped as fuck for the game. RELEASE DATE WHEN
gomennasai /v/
>>335661829
Team Ninja doesn't have a history of making games easier.
Hope they make the tutorials worth half a shit, at least.
>>335650679
>implying that any doa game is good
>>335661852
It's not anything concrete obviously, but a few retailers last week listed the game for pre-order with a release date of October 28.
>>335661852
If the game resembles this? Day 1 buy.
Like fuck off this is a demo. This is as much a demo as DOOM's first episode being released was. This is longer than some games I've played.
Does beating the second level unlock anything like the first level?
>>335661937
Isn't that a week or two after FFXV release? I know they have different demographics they want to get but it's still going to hit the sales pretty hard.
>>335662094
No.
Well, bragging rights.
But otherwise no.
>>335662094
nah it's optional
It's kind of absurd how long this "demo" is. It's like 4 hours, not even counting fighting revenants/doing multiplayer for fun.
>>335662132
XV hits on September 30, iirc
>>335662152
Shit, I'm running different builds.
Magic drops off significantly in usefulness due to how long it takes to apply buffs and how little they last.
How the fuck do I use magic in this game?
Is there a way to check how long you've played so far? Trying to do the survey
I'm not sure if I like or dislike that weapons don't add to equip load.
I'm doing decent as a spear user, but I get fucking wrecked sometimes. I parry decently well, should I just try doing hand to hand parries and level up other shit?
Also, what's the explanation of the Ninja and Magic stuff? It just says Jutsu required and I don't want to level that up if it's going to be useless.
>>335661594
Ninjers are truly the worst.
>throw poison beetle thing
>does literally like 10 damage but makes guy fall off the roof and die
great thanks
>>335662271
They obviously want you to use what weapons you have if you can't repair them no matter the flavor
>>335662243
Select "Ready Justu" in Shrine. You have to have learned the skills you want in Learn Skill, and to have enough Jutsu points (which you get by levelling up Magic/Dexterity for Magic/Ninja shit).
It's all buffs that restock when you visit a shrine. Or consumables/throwable items, for ninja skills (other than the passives).
You can use the buffs from the item menu or the quickbar.
Do you still unlock something extra (DLC) for beating the demo?
>>335662271
Better this way, equipping heavy armor tires you faster than stamina refills. They need some serious balancing. Or maybe I should level stamina, or whichever fucking stat lets you wear heavier crap.
>that one move in low stance spear that lets you jump over the enemy at the end of a combo
>can do a drop attack in midair
Fuck I'd use low stance so much more if damage output wasn't complete shit.
>>335661764
I don't get what you mean by track?
>>335662581
Does you character turn on the spot to look at a npc they're locked onto.
>>335662537
You unlock something otherwise inaccessible in the full game for beating the first of two levels in the demo (Though it's unclear what it is at this stage. Probably just some special equipment or a unique Kodama or something). Upon completing it, you'll be prompted to download it from the PS Store.
>>335646221
Holy shit, git gud, faggot.
>>335662425
Thanks anon
>>335662645
I know it makes you look at them but not "swivel" if they dash past you. If someone dodges around you they can hit you. So I guess no is the answer.
This is really not good. Was expecting a fun mashup of Dark Souls and Ninja Gaiden/DMC, instead got Lords of the Fallen 2 with one hit deaths and enemies that are spongier than Destiny or The Division.
>>335647838
>kendo fags in /v/
Feels like bliss.
I haven't found nito-ryu yet. When can I dw?
Who here ninjustu master race?
Those yellow niggers better not give super rare items a 1% drop rate out of 265% or some dumb shit Luke that. Just make a super tough enemy drop it but give it a 100% drop rate. Beat the fucker, get your gear, fuck grinding.
>>335662815
Lol nice joke anon.
Damage is way too high imo. If they wanted to go for 'realism' they should have the enemies die in 2 hits also.
>>335663004
>we will never ever get another Bushido Blade
This game really tickles my need for another one, it has to be the stance system.
>>335646221
>opinion of a cuck
>>335663004
Just take out an axe and do the top stance. A combo should kill human/zombies
>>335645210
Is there stealth kills in this game a la tenchu series?
>>335663250
No.
But you can headshot an enemy in the head from across the map for MASSIVE DAMAGE.
>>335663004
Agreed. One hit deaths are fine if it's the same for enemies, but having to hack away at even the most basic soldier 10 times is just bullshit. It's not even difficulty, this is the kind of shit From always explicitly tried to avoid with the Souls games because they knew where the line between challenging and unfair was.
>>335657862
The first oni gets suddenly really easy when you figure out he only has two different attack patterns and a long fucking recovery time after each attack. Over all he's slow as fuck too.
>>335663296
Why is this not a thing? Would make this obvious ds ripoff have some unique flair.
>>335662340
>>335662340
>Figure I'm going to be a fucking shitter
>Channel my inner Rikimaru
>Flame Shuriken
>Literally explosive/flame Kunai
>340 Initial damage, with another 30s DoT for roughly 50dmg a second
>First Oni Ambushes my asshole, slap him in the cock with Shuriken
>Include a fucking Gunpowder grenade for good measure
>Second Oni is apparently onto my tricks and channeling Onikage
>Slap him with two Shuriken and a bit of Axe love
I think I may have found easy mode, I'm unsure seeing as how I only get 3 of these fucking things.
>>335663298
> but having to hack away at even the most basic soldier 10 times is just bullshit.
Stop using low stance faggot
>>335663812
I don't think damage scales and by the second level axes get 350+ damage per mid-stance hit.
Ninjas can suck my fucking dick, don't even get me fucking started on the goddamn Ninja Onis.
>>335663298
>but having to hack away at even the most basic soldier 10 times is just bullshit
Are you sure you're not using broken weapons or low stance? Enemies die in 3 hits max, except for armored dude and onis
>>335652585
it is a video game
get over it
>>335663974
Ninja Onis are hilarious. Fat fucking gymnasts.
>>335664028
Fat gymnasts of death.
How do I magic?
>>335663548
>Why is this not a thing?
What do you mean? It IS a thing, which is why he just said it.
The armor system is very precise. What they're wearing and where you hit them influence the damage.
If the enemy is wearing a metal helmet, an arrow will ricochet off of and cause no damage, but it will also knock the helmet off, exposing his head.
If his head is totally exposed, a headshot will almost kill any human.
>>335652585
The Guardian spirit protects him. Mix that with the reincarnative karmic nature of both Shiny and Buddhism and we have better lore than "You're just a zombie lmao"
>>335664151
He was talking about stealth kills.
>>335664151
You lack reading comprehension. I was talking about stealth kills.
>>335664183
*shinto fuck it's late
So what Yokai are weak to which elements? Seems like Oni are weak to fire but what about the zombies and the cyclops?
>>335646359
Yes
>>335664321
They're weak to getting hit.
>tfw wanted this to be good and it's really, really not
>>335658780
What in the actual fuck is this webm?
>>335658780
>old_snake_erases_his_memes_from_the_face_of_the_earth.webm
Anybody having trouble with ki I swing once and my total ki is gone and after that it feels very slowly
>>335665043
Quit heavy stancing and learn to press r1 after a few swings.
>>335645210
This game is probably going to be fantastic
Best demo I've played in years
I wish it wasn't so weeb, though.
I'm not in heavy stance after I left the alter it started doing it
>>335665304
You're probably overburdened. Check how heavy the armour you're wearing is.
Ok I'll check good idea
Thanks man that was it
So does the Guardian Spirit level up the more I use him, or do I need to spend Amrita on that?
>>335666264
Doesn't seem to have level up implemented. If you mean the red stuff, then you gotta raise your stat. I think 12 is the highest. Ten nets you Raiken's lightning protection though.
>>335647045
>Hobo Samurai
fucking fund it
>>335645210
>not posting superior otaku
>>335667489
Well, just beat Nue on my second try. Man, the bosses in this are so much fun, I hope that standard is consistent across the whole game.
>>335668175
Whoops, sorry, didn't mean to respond that anyone in particular.
>>335668175
I'm sure it won't be an issue, but I hope there's good variety in the bosses.
Did anyone try going full Dexterity for Ninjutsu damage and Shurikens? Is it possible to make a "caster" build this way that focuses on ranged projectile attacks mostly to take down enemies?
>>335668997
It'd probably be absolute murder in the current thing we have. If we got more weapons and had one that was mainly off of dex I could see it.
>Game lets me play online without PS+
>My second playthough of the fishing village had me go through every enemy up until defeating the third Oni
I personally don't like how the game relies more on your stats being shit to create difficulty rather than really needing to be skilled but some tweaks could make this really good
>>335671385
It'll probably be PS+ locked for the full release, don't get too excited.
>>335671569
Well obviously, they usually let alphas/betas be free to stress test servers more efficiently
But it's nice knowing I don't have to buy PS+ just for this
>You can replay missions
>Meaning you're not cut out from co-op/invasions for finishing an area
Good work, Team Ninja!
Now give us an option for it not to be random.
>>335661852
I want it, but I won't buy it if they casualize it for the shitters here in this thread.
How do I level up guardian spirits?
>>335677423
Put points in spirits
>>335668129
Oh, David Kun~. Where are you now?
>>335645210
10/10 Can't wait for release.
How do I do Kick and not Sword Ki? The inputs appear to be the same and 'Play Movie' is no help. What am I missing?
Are PCucks still fucking up the threads?
>>335681176
>Console warsfags
>Soulsfags
>Casualfags
Nioh will never have good threads and the game isn't even out yet.
>>335664765
An immortal doing his business.
Sink
>>335646735
Stubborn PCuck.
>>335682735
NEW THREAD MOVE IT BOYS
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