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Who /invade/ here? I've been fucking shit up in the Grand Archive all day, so if you've gotten your ass kicked by a guy in Silver Knight/Drang Armor using a black blade than you can thank me :^)

Where are you invading pham? And luck?
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>>335637638

SL16 Undead Settlement.
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>>335637638
>>335639861
>And luck?

50-50. Often they have two summons with them, and I may kill a summon but then the host runs off back to the bonfire. I usually just bide my time (and wait and wait for them to get more summons) and let them run out of estace slowly.

Sometimes I invade and there's a mad phantom, that is fun. Sometimes I managed to beat all 3 (rarely).

---

Just to add, summoning two+ mad phantoms in to your game is the only way to co-op.
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>>335637638
>/invade/
>Dark Souls 3

Cancer is rising
https://youtu.be/13lBbEP9zy8
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where the fuck is the invasion covenant.
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>>335641238
Moundmakers if you want to retain sanity, Rosaria's if you hate yourself. Farron's and Aldrich's if you kind of like the idea of both but never want to be summoned in for invasions.
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>>335641238
There is no specific invasion covenant, you get a specific reward depending on which covenant you're in

That being said, a guy in Rosaria's covenant is the one that leads you to the uncracked red eye orb
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>>335637638
>had an absolute blast invading undead settlement all day for three days in a row
>foolish think it can only get better later
>level up more and move on
>haven't had a fun invasion since leaving
Park your pvp character in the settlement and move on guys, it just gets super lame after that.
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I like that guitar riff when you use the red orb. Makes me feel like a badass
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>In NG+, still haven't summoned for a boss/going through a level

Still haven't fucking died to an invader. I don't even Estus (unless they do, in which case I chug to the death, faggot)
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>>335641803
Post build and gear
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>>335641607
Not true man, I had great experiences invading all day in Irithyl and now the Grand Archives. It literally takes me 3 seconds to find a world to invade
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>>335641607
Is this true? I'm almost 50 hours in and I still haven't moved from the Undead Settlement because I'm having so much fun invading.
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Invading at The Path of the Dragon with the help of my bros Havel and Drakeblood Knight.
>Host has a white and a sunbro
>Me and Havel beat em
Ayyy Havel you alright mang.
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>>335641928
Skeleton Head
Drang Armor
Gundyr Gauntlets
Black Knight Leggings

Refined Winged Spear +10
Black Bow of Pharris +6 (Gotta go through again to get it to +10
Burger King Shield +3
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>>335637638
lvl 20, plus 2 weapon. Farron's Faggots at the swamp. Crushing kids with the great club as shrek. If they want to act like cunts and go 2v1 that can be easily rectified with the mob layout. Alternatively, I can just waste a little time and more Farrons Faggots are guaranteed to join the fun for an even fight.

Also, you'd be surprised at how convincing a plus 2 crossbow is to get someone to stop being a pussy and actually attack you rather than waiting back for you to do a suicide run. Just plug away at them with a crossbow for 80 damage (That's like 10 to 20 percent health at that level). Plug them a few times and they'll actually attack you.

>Fight dude and his phantom
>Brutalate and Murderlize the phantom
>Host runs all the way back to the beginning of the level
>Summons a mad phantom in his panic
>Mad phantom and I have a duel out in the swamps
>Mad phantom has had enough of my shit
>Back him up to the very beginning
>He gets to the fog door
>He sees the host, cowering with 10 HP
>The host has been cowering here the entire time
I could almost hear the gears turning before the mad phantom did him in.
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>>335637638
I'm not amazing at PvP so I've been stuck in a trend of getting my ass handed to me because every invasion is me vs 2 or 3 other people with estocs and shit.
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Does this game segregate its playerbase in NG, NG+, NG++? Or is it all just Weapon memory and Soul Level.
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Just got my 30th vertebrae in a fightclub

>tfw guy darkmoon loyaltys in shame and let's me kill him
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>>335637638
Dude. I killed you like three times lmao.
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DAS 3 WEAPON TIER LIST 0.1
____________________________

SSS TIER:
estoc

SS TIER:
twinswords
balanced pole
dark sword
sunlight straight sword
rapier
dragonslayer spear
dragonslayer sword spear
butcher knife

S TIER:
red hilted halberd
falchion
fume ULGS
longsword
chaos blade
uchigatana
dual katana
battle axe
great axe
BKGA
black knight glaive

A TIER:
hand axe
thrall axe
claymore
zweihander
astora gs
farron gs
profaned gs
greatsword
MLGS
black knight gs
great machete
yhorms great machete
pickaxe
great/large club
spiked mace
spear
partizan
pike
winged
scythes

B TIER:
halberd
lucerne
glaive
crestcent axe
dual hammers
all greatswords that isnt claymore or drakeblood

C TIER:
drakeblood
all non great hammers
all fist weapons

D TIER:
all whips
all daggers (as a mainhand wep)

F TIER:
literally who the fuck uses this meme shit - weapons
ex: immolation tinder, soldering iron, broken straight sword

??? TIER:
weapons literally no on has ever used in pvp
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>>335642008

a lot of invasions in irithyll, and after pontiff but before anor londo, otherwise meh.
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>>335642754
>weapon tier list
>is actually weapons I personally like list

aaaaand discarded.
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>>335637638
Anor Londo/ Soul level 56

Usually win as 2v1 isnt hard.
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test
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>>335642994
icles
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>>335642994
don't worry, your ban is coming thic fag
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You're not cool for invading, in fact, you're a cunt for doing so. This is coming from someone who wins almost every invasion. I've lost like 2 or 3 if you combine every Souls game, even Bloodborne, but granted, I only got invaded once there, and I didn't fight the guy, because he invaded me just before Mergo's Wet Nurse. Guy called me a pussy for "Running away."
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Why does everyone fucking suck in this game? Not pvp wise but pve. I summoned two people for the Dancer and they both died from shitty rookie mistakes. Same thing with Aldritch. Shits annoying
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>>335643297
>This is coming from someone who wins almost every invasion.

Sure anon.
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>>335643297
Because you are a pussy. You fucking scared little dweeb. I bet you use a fucking white branch to hide in a corner and blend with the environment just like in real life you little shit. Do something with your fucking life and stop wasting everybody's time.
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>Watchdogging for a while
>get bored waiting for invasions so start to head on a bit
>difficulty ramps up for Irithyll/Smouldering Lake
>pump a few points into stuff
>upgrade my weapons a bit
>now getting hardly any invasions

Watchdogging is so fun but I hate how limited the SL range for it is, due to people in that area still being so low leveled.
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>>335643297

gay
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>>335637638
>katanafagging
APEX JEJ FAMPAI
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>Hornet ring + BKGA
>Parry riposte the host, phantoms, ANYONE for a OHKO
I'm not even good and this is so satisfying every time it happens.
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>>335643497
>Why does everyone fucking suck in this game?
>I summoned two people
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>>335637638
I'm not trying to pvp, but every person who has invaded me has been a fucking scrub. And I always thought I was fucking terrible at pvp.
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You've been fucking shit up all day?

Good for you man!

Me? Just busy getting banked by 1 host + 2 phantoms!

Not even laying a summon sign works! Gankers just summon me!
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>>335643685
yes summoning 2 people maximizes everyones reward. what is the problem?
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>>335643827
I hear Irithyll is a pretty good place for 1v1 fights.
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>>335642069
>Black Bow of Pharris +6
What makes it better than the Short Bow? My Short Bow does more damage, I know damage falloff and stuff but I generally never need to range over such distances for it to matter.
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>>335643561
stay at level 20 and play the game hard mode. Even the deacons were kind of fun when I couldnt just rape them.
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>>335644018
Past the Pontiff bonfire?

That's where most of the ganking has gone on. I also get ganked before the final boss.
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>>335641102
LOL that video just shows how much of a faggot u are.
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>>335642008
You still get lots of invasions, but the quality drops immensely.
As people progress and get invaded more, they look up memebuilds and fall to dodge spam while summoning three phantoms as way of blue with giant seed on.
The last six invasions I have done in Irithyll have been four man groups camped in the church where mobs refuse to enter as the host pops seed then branch and three sunfags sit at the door with weapons ready to go.
That's just a small glimpse at the faggotry awaiting you past Settlement.
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Gonna play the game after delaying it for a bit, is online still working properly for the pirated version?
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>>335639861
You can go up 4 levels anon, the invasion range is +/- 20
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>>335637638
Been invading after pontiff and used the dragonslayer greatbow. If it's the host + some phantoms I go up in the tower after the big courtyard with the giants and pimp my tower with some of those colored stones.
After I've pimped my tower I proceed to shoot my enemies with the greatbow and hold my watchtower. If I'm lucky they'll get mad and rush up to me and I can get some glorious aid from my shiny knights that protects Anor londo.

If there's a fightclub going on I equip the "obscures wearer far away" ring and try to ruin their fun by shooting everyone and letting them search for me. Before I do this however I ususally draw a line with prism stones over the whole courtyard to show them that they are on my land and near my tower. After I get them to chase me I bait them over to the tower and proceed to shoot them with my majestic lightning greatarrows.

It's been great so far, I don't mind if they get me. I'm more doing it for the thrill/fun. I usually end up killing the host anyways because they get paniced and end up doing a wrong roll and rolls off the bridge/path.

It's nice being an asshole sometimes.
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>>335637638

>mfw I disconnect whenever I get invaded

Eat shit faggot, you're not getting me
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I'm at the cathedral of the deep and I see no summon signs anywhere. I'm level 21 with a +2 weapon. Is that too low?
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IS THE WOLF RING WORTH IT
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>>335644226
>something something enjoy your ban something something broken record
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SERVER REGULATION 1.05 IS LIVE ON PS4 GENTS

TOO BAD ABOUT THAT SERVER MAINTENANCE, BUT MAYBE THEY FIXED COVENANT MATCHMAKING.

>>335644235
Yes
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>>335644226
Hah, the only faggot here is you.

Enjoy being a little pussy bitch.
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>>335643827
Go to anor londo. You can only have 1 summon there for some reason
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>>335643170
LOW
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FIRST SUMMON AS A BLUE SENTINEL

HOLY SHIT. It actually works
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I'd say switch to the washing pole, identical stats to the black blade but with way longer reach.
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>>335644312
>Pump points into Vit because upgrading weapons fucks your buns in matchmaking
>Have wildly high Poise and Wolf Ring
>Use Bonus Poise shield
>Slow walk up to people and charge Smough's Hammer 2h R2 while they desperately slash at me with a katana doing absolutely nothing
>one hit kill

Meanwhile

>Have similar poise
>A single hollow walks up to me
>Throws a light punch
>I get staggered like your mom sat down next to me and shook the earth
Fucking why
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>get invaded in demon ruins maze
>fag immediatly runs off tryin to make a shitty area even shittier
>use seed of giants
>within seconds INVADER BANISHED
>fag was probably right in the middle of an enemy orgy waiting for me to walk in like a retard and get fucked over

Most of you guys are pussies who will start chuggin sunny d and running away when you start losing. Ill keep using seed of g all day on you scrubs
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>>335644018
Irithyll is pretty good if you want to fight the same stuff over and over.
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>>335644319
Is my LS too low or my weapon?
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>>335641102
Stay mad, red faggot
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Playing on PS4, I left my character at level 75 with a million souls to spare before backing up my save on a USB. Haven't used any boss souls, it's fun as hell being able to switch builds whenever I want.
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>>335642754
>no Wolf Knight's Greatsword
shit list tbqh
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>>335642754
>SSS, SS, S and A ranks

You're a complete fucking homo
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>>335644397
I like thickness but this place is for video games.
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>>335644585
Both. Cathedral is +3 to +6 and SL 30-40.
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What are the best weapons for chasing people down when they're trying to run away to chug estus?
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>>335642754
REAL WEAPON TIER LIST

HOLY WARRIOR OF GOD TIER
FUCKING HAMMERS OR MACES

FILTHY HEATHEN WHO DESERVES ONLY DEATH TIER
ANYTHING ELSE
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Why is it half the time I get summoned the host is skating around and NOBODY CAN GO THROUGH THE GODDAMN FOG

These are the summons that should fail before they begin. Id rather have it fail and have an error message then waste my time through 2 fucking load screens
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>>335644702
Oh. Well. I guess I'll try to get my level higher and upgrade my astora straight sword.

I've been trying to find a weapon that I like but every weapon that isn't a straight sword just feels so....I don't know the word to use.
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>at a fight club
>watch some havel shitter get fucking destroyed by someone with the witch's locks
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55 sl is nonstop invasions for aldrich faithful. Haven't lost a single match yet and most of the time, I've been fighting the host alone. A lot of victories are dependent on how powerful your build is, though. On my sl 95 astora gs pyormancer, I have mediocre hp and damage. I was killed in 4 hits by a chaos blade. It takes 3 hits with my slow ass sword to kill.
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>>335644894
just neck yourself giant club faggot
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>>335644963
IMPLYING I DON'T EXCLUSIVELY USE SMOUGH'S HAMMER FAGGOT
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I've been invading undead settlement as well. I've been mostly running a stupid build where i try to pelvic thrust people off the cliffs
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>>335644891
Sprinting. Thrusting weapon arts. Throwing knives
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>>335644312
poise is disabled with a single integer. It doesn't function in this game.
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>invade Anor Londo
>Host of embers has begun critical battle. Returning to your world.
>Host of embers has begun critical battle. Returning to your world.
>Host of embers has begun critical battle. Returning to your world.
>Host of embers has begun critical battle. Returning to your world.
>Host of embers has begun critical battle. Returning to your world.
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SL40 dragonslayer greatbow invading at Catacombs all day. too funny
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>>335644051
You can't de-level can you? Can't even get someone with Dark Hand to soulsuck me because they changed that too...Ah well, even if I did de-level my weapons are still upgraded so that skews things.

I still get the rare invasion though.
>just invaded then
>girl character with some Sunfaggot bodyguard
>watch them fight the exiles, he's literally carrying her
>run in after they kill just one of them, separate the host as she runs bloodthirstily at me
>her sword is just bouncing off me
>just doing no damage
>I'm only a Dex build with medium armour
>pull out my curved Ghru, time for poison
>get her health down and stick in her face
>she tries to take the ladder
>stays at the top though to hit me when I try to chase
>i just whack her, last hit I needed for poison
>poison hits once
>twice
>third time she's knocked off the ladder and falls to her death

I've never seen such a pathetic build.
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>>335641102

>Blessed Buckler
>Refined Dark Sword
>Refined Washing Pole

Yeah, nah. You couldn't seal the deal, that's on you. Don't expect any love as an invader.
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>>335644457
>similar poise
You do know poise doesn't work
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How to invade.
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>>335645170
It does work
But only against players
Why
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>>335645097
>critical battle

Why did they change the boss message to this?
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>>335645170
Poise works, but it's not the same as it was.

Nobody can tell poise is working because everyone uses faggot ass katanas and straight swords.

Poise now functions as hyper armor during attacks. You notice it more when you use ultra weapons and very slow casting magic. Once your attack ends, poise no longer does anything. It's intended to allow you to attack through another player's attack, not to sit there and tank them like a faggot.
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>>335645203
No, poise is disabled. It doesn't function, those numbers all read functionally as 0.

Hyperarmor has nothing to do with poise, only the type of weapon and attack you are currently doing.
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>>335641102
with that name I'm not impressed of how annoying that host was
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SL 60, dicking around as a sunbro in the post-Pontiff fightclub.
Using a flavor build with the BK shield, demon fists, and sacred flame. Having the time of my life.
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How do you counter twinblade users?
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>white phantoming on a guy's world
>invader fuck shows up, then runs away to hide in enemy area
>host runs after him like an idiot
>almost dies to mob gangbang
>I give him a Giant Seed since invader ran again
>he doesn't use it, runs into gangbang again and dies
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>>335645295
wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldIxzYQ7nIw

POISE DOES NOT WORK
IT IS TURNED OFF BY A SINGLE INTEGER
POISE IS NOT HYPERARMOR
HYPERARMOR IS DETERMINED BY YOUR WEAPONS CURRENT ATTACK
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>>335645428
by not being shit.
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>>335645097
Are you really suprised, it's litterally just a straight line not counting the Darkmoon hidden path and inital detour to unlock the door.
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>>335644509
>invade settlement, kill one phantom or host
>summoning another phantom
>summoning another phantom
>summoning another phantom
>use mobs, kill one phantom
>host immediately sprints away to the bonfire
>kill another with the remaining mobs
>last one runs off
>summoning another phantom
>summoning another phantom
>they finish off that pack, I fall back to next group
>get a plunging attack on two of them, comboed into mob sweeps
>run and roll back to my perch
>plunging attack on a straggler phantom
>thrall ambush kills another
>host sprints off, one phantom follows
>other thinks he still has help
>gets killed by thralls
>summoning another phantom
>summoning another phantom
>they come back and go the other way
>plunging into the hallway on host
>roll past them and get on perch with nana
>when they come for the ladder, plunging two of them
>run into next building
>one follows, but didn't estus first
>combo him to little life, he runs off but gets sweep killed by nana
>host runs off again, both phantoms stay
>get one low while nana solis the other, but he rolls away and jumps off a cliff
>summoning another phantom
>summoning another phantom
>summoning another phantom
>at this point just desperate to get a last hit on fucking anyone
>phantoms come and squat out of nana's range while waiting on me
>no sign of host until
>host of embers has died, returning to your world
>friend request on steam
>he calls me a cowardly cucksucking piece of shit for using mobs
>I thank him for the easy bone and remove, block, then report him
Hosts are always faggots even if they 1v1
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>>335645440
I don't like hiding behind enemies but fighting four players head-on is suicide.
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>>335645428
Abuse hyperarmor and be patient
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So, are Covenant Rings still the same in NG+
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>>335645559
Might as well go home.
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>>335641954
Irithyll Dungeon is my favorite place to invade in.

Even gankers can't avoid that massivve HP drop and that hot iron rod attack.
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>>335645559
running into mobs is the "host disconnect" of invading.

pussy ass bitch. :)
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What's with the amount of people trying to parry fish in this game? It's insane. I don't remember it being this bad in 1 or 2.
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Someone should set up a fightclub. Location is that place where Horace is.
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>>335645664
Nah, dumb cowards who hide behind phantoms are unerringly shitty at the game. Easy to fool, easy to tool
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>>335645669
Nah, it's the answer to gank squads. You don't want that to happen, don't try a 3v1 or we'll just make your life a living hell
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>>335645683
Those guys are shitters who can't rely on backstab fishing anymore, so they spam L2. Easy to faint with charge attacks.
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>>335645669
so by your logic, a lone invader SHOULD run into a zerg of four players?
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>>335644319

Hopefully this fixes the sliding phantom bullshit.
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>>335645819
It's understandable to do it against ganksquads to even the playing field, but I've seen dozens of invaders do that to me alone, or when I just have one phantom. At that point, nobody's having fun, and it's just wasting everybody's time - so why bother?
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>>335644312
I heard poise is disable
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>>335645683
Its funny too. Im a completionist, I farmed my pale tongues and Dregs in the same place, and 9/10 the person had a buckler.

Ive yet to he parried. People fish for it but its so hard on these servers.

I just pop on my Tsorigs ring and R1 Spam the fuck out till I get the reposte
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>Invading in catacombs
>Host has 2 phantoms
>Blue comes in
>wew lad
>Run back to some skellies
>All the phantoms run for me
>Manage to actually kill them all
>Host ends up dying to some weak ass skellies
Well I guess that's why they summon.
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>>335645945
>just one phantom
Oh, a 2v1? If I attack a phantom and the host rushes me, fuck that. Lets get a mob in here. Even shit up. Don't 2v1 and expect me to play along.
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>>335641102
>anita sarkeesian summons white knights
kek
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>>335645819
Dont invade if you arent willing to fight 3 on 1. The game is what? 2 weeks old? You really expect the majority of people to not still summon?
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>>335646056
Alright then, you're a fucking pussy, got it.
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>>335645819
>"gank squads"

Why do you call it that?
Its a "on our way to co op the boss" squad, and you just had to show up and start complaining about what they are doing in their game.
Unless they are literally sitting around farming invaders it isnt a gank squad.
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>>335645976
It is disabled. Maybe he likes looking at numbers go up that are functionally useless
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>>335645901
Fuck yeah. Fuck that honorable pussy shit. Coming out on top of all that fucking chaos is the best feeling in the damn world
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>>335646056
>he cant win 2 on 1

Why do you even invade? Git gud.
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>>335646148
the boss is being ganked in that case
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>>335645819
This, I will waddle my ugly ass up to a bonfire to play slapstick and not even heal until host does, but the fucking moment another phantom appears, I dedicate my next hour to torturing their every step with mob abuse, dagger spam to open them up to mob attacks, chucking bombs and shit piles and putting gems by very corner to play with their paranoia while jumping on them from every rafter I can find. Pop a seed? Thanks, now my alluring skulls will lead everything for three rooms straight to you, dumb shit.
Fuck summoners.
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>>335646138
You're a pussy trying to 2v1. I will kill your phantom and run you down as you do your faggy little run back to the bonfire to resummon. Blow me little bitchboy
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>Summoned to Farron Keep as a Purple
>Chill
>Host accidentally aggros a swamp demon
>Turn on him and take him to fucking nothing while he's poisoned
>Escapes
>Get invaded on a nearby land mass
>Invader kills me, despite just being a generic red
I hate retards.
He died immediately to the host and got nothing for killing me.
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>>335644891
Gundyr's Halberd, bonus points for it having amazing tracking and a near 360 swing arc on the weapon art.

>>335646148
a large majority of my invasions have been on a host with at least one phantom, and on many occasions two phantoms. Call it whatever you want, but with how gimped invaders are from the get-go it's fucking stupid to expect them to fight Sissy Bitch McGee and the Phantom Three on equal terms.
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>fighting one of those giant crystal lizards in farron's keep
>get invaded by some fag who just runs up and starts swinging at me
>only had two estus
>manage to kill him and the lizard
Can you invader cucks please step it up? You're all terrible.
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>>335646148
Yeah, if you summon 2, or especially 3 phantoms you deserve to get shit on.
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>>335646148
>we're innocently going to fight the boss
>boss shortcut is locked
>halfway shorcut is locked
>host is afk at first bonfire with three golds watching the area for any movement
Nice meme
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>>335646056
>>335646327
What do you fucking want? A signed invitation to fuck the host's ass whenever you come by? If you want decent 1v1, go to a fucking fightclub or lay down a summon sign. You still get your tongues/medals/etc, and you don't have to deal with ganksquads.
But if you're going to bitch about how somebody actually has backup when you barge into -their- game, you'd just being a cunt.
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>mfw a faggot starts parroting about "muh honorable combat" after invading my private property and disliking the ensuing result
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>>335645530
>remove, block and report him

do people really do this?
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>>335646328
He got a bone for killing a purple.
So basically nothing, but still something.
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>>335646537
>break into somebody's house
>his wife and kids are there
>they all attack me
WOW WHAT THE FUCK, THIS GUY HAS NO HONOR, THIS IS BROKEN
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>>335646537
Nobody is putting the blame on the host beyond the host being a faggot for running around with that many phantoms. The problem is that the game MATCHES you with massive parties as a preference, and that people honestly expect reds to just fight them without resorting to dickery.
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>>335646519
Fuck you and your ganksquad. We're going to fuck up your day for being a huge faggot, because no one likes huge coward faggots.

Enjoy my maxed chaos fireball anytime you attack a mob. Enjoy that 850-1000 damage for every hit I get. No more estus for you, bitchboy with three summons.
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>>335646557
Invasions continue long after the fire has died.
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I invaded for a while using chaos barbed sword. I got my shot pushed in by katanas and other large weapons besides greatsword.s. I'm going to try chaos gotthart twins and see if I dare any better.
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>>335646736
>hurr all my attacks are so powerful
>hurr im so brave
>but i can't take on 2v1 let alone 3v1 so i have to hide behind enemies >:(
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>>335646841
Just use memesteam, it's preety fun
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>>335646681
This, to be honest. It's not that I HATE huge faggot fucking cowards with three summons on a personal level. But it gets to the point where that is damn near every fucking invasion.

It's gotten to the point where I just want to be as cruel and shitty to them at every step of the way because I've been getting ganked for the last two hours. Now I've got to be just as shit to them just to stay on even footing with the biggest faggots in the game that I am constantly being matched against.
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>>335646375
>but with how gimped invaders are from the get-go it's fucking stupid to expect them to fight Sissy Bitch McGee and the Phantom Three on equal terms.

So basically what youre saying is "I want to force someone into having a fair fight with me"

If you are invading, you have no right to complain about anything. You put yourself there knowing full well the majority of people are casuls who summon 2 others.

If you want a 1 on 1 put the red sign down. I cant feel bad for an invader who constantly gets 3 on 1's
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>>335646910
It quickly becomes a 1v1 and then the real rape begins
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>>335647083
Then what are you complaining about, friendo?
:^)
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>>335646646
>>335646537
>break into somebody's house
>family attacks me
>pull out gun
>kill the family
>WOW WHAT THE FUCK, THIS GUY HAS NO HONOR, RESPECT MY PROPERTY
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>>335646537
I would argue that invading is part of the game like summoning is.

If you're the kind of faggot who runs around looking for new people to summon if the ones you already have are killed, I would call you a colossal faggot, but I can't knock you for it. It's part of the game.
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>>335647016
If an invader shits on you and ruins your day and your 3 summons you have no right to be angry because you are innately acting cowardly.
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>>335641102
>dark sword
>washing pole

get fucked
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>>335647148
I think you're responding to the wrong person, fag fucker
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anyone else here getting "failed to login to servers" on the PS4 version?
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>>335647209
You cant say the game is unjustly unfair to Invaders though.

They even gave you healing in DSIII, which is beyond stupid. It just makes the fights last 10 minutes longer than they should as you cant punish for healing anymore.

You know exactly what you could be getting into with invading, how can you really complain about anything?

The actual only time I do summon is if Im invaded because the fights take way to fucking long in this game when its 1 on 1 and I dont have the time to be invaded over and over again.
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>>335647364
Was about to post this too, yeah I am senpai. Even deleted the game and reinstalled and still broke
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been invading people nonstop in the dungeon dressed from head to two as a darkwraith. usually I spawn above the group and just do a plunging attack and often kill them in one hit because of it. I even somehow managed to grab one of them with the dark hand
Also have nothing but darmoons and way of blue faggots trying to help the host but I now have 12 forked tongues since they're usually shitters. Probably have enough for the last covenant reward but I like to keep them as trophies
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lvl 23. irythill village mainly, but i can invade almost anywhere with great results

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXwUgCwogf4

I gotta make a irythill gank vid, the magicians who make fire pillars make it WAY EZ.

1v3 isn't even hard w hen you low level invade
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>mfw me and my sun bros gank redfags and theres literally nothing they can do to win
>mfw the boys in blue show up to add even further protection

Stay salty all you want red niggers.
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>>335647160
>be house burglar
>invade house with a gun
>it's those people
>WOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY COULD HAVE GUNS TOO
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>>335647564
>complains about invaders healing
>against three phantoms and a host

Yeah, fuck off. You fucking suck.
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>>335641102

you are bad
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>>335647564
See, I get that if I invade people I might be walking into 5 phantoms and get my shit fucked up, but what pisses me off is when I invade someone, kill all the phantoms, then the host just runs around keeps trying to pick up new summons cause they are too pussy to fight me back
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>>335641102
You cannot guard break in ds3 ?
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>>335647582
How do you even manage to hit someone with the dark hand? I've been trying for the past hour and it's literally impossible. No one is dumb enough to fall for it
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I just killed a host, his two phantoms and his friendly red as an Aldrich Faithful. All three were using chameleon and I laid into a statue with the Red in it.
>he runs to the archers
>they do nothing
>take him down when he is out of stamina
>his phantom partner gets body blocked by me and is knocked off the ledge by an arrow
>kill one more when he goes after an archer
>host is nearly killed by me
>jumps off edge and attempts to heal
>falling attack and win

I'm liking this luck build.
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>>335647706
Forgot pic
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>>335641428
>never summon
>aldrich's

you get summoned every 20 seconds there
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Why do invaders complain about anything in this game? You can literally invade infinate amount of times an hour into the game.

I could understand the hate for 3 on 1s if the only invasion was with Cracked red eyes but jesus, this game is supposed to be hard in every aspect.
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>>335641102
>uses washing pole
>use the fucking dark sword

Holy shit you're bad
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I fucking love using a seed of giants in the area after Pontiff. Invaders apparently lose their minds when enemies start attacking them (most seem to position themselves with the greatbow silver knights, and quickly die) and either die quickly or just ragequit.
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>>335647613
get rid of the shitty out of place music, anon
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>>335641607

irythlll man, that's where you want to be.
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>tfw you can't invade because its just a gank-a-thon
https://youtu.be/VyuLLKoIqX0
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>>335647806
You using the rouge? What weapon?
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>>335637638
SL76 invading anor londo 3v1 with scimitar all day every day
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>>335647797
This has been the only time I ever managed to do it and believe me I have tried alot. Anyway had the phantom pinned between me and the jailer and while he was getting branded I grabbed
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>>335647892
Wait until you're invaded by someone properly. When someone seeds me I just gather up every mob that will follow me and we gang rape the host
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Does anyone have problems with the gaurd dogs of farron? I'll wait for an hour and never get summoned, and I really want that great sword for my tank build
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>>335648045
>3v1 Anor londo

Cant you only summon once in Anor Londo?
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>>335647859
>this game is supposed to be hard in every aspect
>in every respect
>every respect
>host has a personal bodyguard group
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>>335648000
Anri's Sword and an Avellyn.
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>invade
>host has 3 phantoms
>at least two of them are using Dark Swords

90% of my experience so far.
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>>335648112
what is your sl and item quality? If you're past 29 and/or a +2 weapon you're fucked
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>blue sentinel lvl 30ish
>no fucking summons
just
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>>335648131
dried finger

>>335648178
I only see estocs and people trying to bait parries
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>>335648147
Then use the mobs you mong. Stop charging in 3 on 1 then whining about it after about how its so unfair.
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>>335648131
No, it's same as anywhere else. When you invade you're getting 2v1 like 50 percent of the time and 25% 3v1 and 25% 4v1
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>>335648181
Damn is that what it is? Everywhere I checked said if you stay in the 30s it should be fine. I'm like SL 32 right now I think, can't check since ps4 servers seem to he down right now, and don't feel like playing offline
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>>335648131
Most of my invasions are against 2 players and I'd say about 1/4th have 3 players in anor londo.
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>>335647914

aphex twin; shitty.

LOL
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>no twin greatswords option
>no twin great anything
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>>335648112
Yeah thats been happening to me too. The day before yesterday I was able to invade, but I fire it up today and I never get summoned to invade.

I want that sword too
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>>335645440
>Expecting someone to run right into a 2v1 instead of even the odds with enemies
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>>335648178
>friend and me doing O&S NG+ Playthrough
>invader uses estoc

90% of my experience so far
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>Invade
>About to kill one of the phantoms
>Host pulls the plug
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>>335648297
I remember I invaded one game it was 5v1
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>>335648302
I read 29 is the sweet spot since you can invade lvl 19 players.
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>>335648259
If you have higher than a +3 weapon at level 30 you won't get summonned.
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>>335647364
I'm getting the same shit on xbone.
Let's suffer together.
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>>335648381
don't worry, disconnectors get penalized this time around
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>mad about ganks
>not just using cheats for editing their savefiles to get their data corrupt and getting them banned
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>>335648426
im +3
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>>335648397
was it a fight club? Did you try to merc a fight club host?
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>>335647364
>>335648439
I got a update, maybe its that
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>>335647859
The proportion of people playing the game who summon multiple friends has increased as the games have become more popular, and Souls combat excels most and is generally the most fun in 1-on-1 encounters. Invaders are complaining because they want to invade, because it's more spontaneous and varied than dueling with a soapstone, but the majority of the player base plays in a way that makes invading not fun.
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>had 5 different people use all their estus up today
>instead of letting my put their ass through a wall, they turned tail and ran through the area
>all got killed by environment instead of just dying to me
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>>335648494
how do we do this? is there a way to only effect gankers specifically?
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>>335648514
Think it was dried fingers game, cause I had another red phantom join in the middle of it. Didn't help them cause we fucked thier shit up. Still was like "wtf" when I'm getting chased by all those guys
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>Less people have joined the Mound-Makers than people have killed the Abyss Watchers, Aldrich and Yhorm
Literally how.
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>>335648494
I'm not sure you understand how editing savefiles works. You can edit YOUR OWN save file on every system, not everyone's. You could make a hacked item, drop it for a retard, watch them pick it up. If they save with it in their inventory they might get reprimanded
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>>335648397
>invade in area after pontiff
>host
>2 golds
>2 Blues
>2 Aldrich
>1 Purple
>all 8 were down where Aldrich faithful turn in guy is
9 person chaos. Most fun ever.
I sat on the ladder so noone could get out
And I killed both blues, a gold and host from the ladder

chaosh is a laddah
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>summon a red
>mfw Dark Sword + Havel's Greatshield fags
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>>335648661
Because the first way to get into it is sort of vague and people pass it up and then can't get in until the second method, whereas the second method is later game but there permanently, I guess.
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>>335647960
>people who cheer after a 3v1 butt raping like they accomplished something
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I got invaded today by a purple in the archives and he just dropped an I'm Sorry stone before killing himself by suppuku. What a hero.
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>>335648661
Because not everyone is using a guide and knows that you can get into the cage of a normally hostile enemy. And the period of time you can do it is relatively small. And the second chance to get it is missable if you join Rosaria. Is my answer good enough?
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>>335648661

Because joining is weird as fuck the first time, and by the second chance you've probably already joined Rosaria's fingers and therefore can't join at all.
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>>335648661
>Missable first time if you fight Tree boss before finding this random enemy and knowing to get in its cage
>Only other option is to do this vague as fuck questline that can be missable if you join another Covenant
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>>335648728
>two blues
This is a lie if you already have two phantoms then blues don't spawn
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>>335648531
I think so too, mine kicked me out my game, said it started installing ver 1.04 but that one was already done. Then when I entered the game again it said app 1.04 and one under said 1.05 so maybe new update?
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>>335648815
>First method is vague
I don't really see how, I saw a big fag with a cage on his back instead of a pack. The normal thing to do is walk up behind him, but then you'd see the interact and do that.
Also,
>Not exploring the whole area before a boss
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>>335648876
>First guy doesn't even hit him but does damage
>Second guy drop attacks while he's stunned
>Third guy drops after he's dead because why not
>They all have a circle jerk
What the fuck happened to dark souls?
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>>335645530
How do people add you on steam from dark souls?
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>>335648971
You can have the blues first then summon phantoms. They dont take up your phantom spot.
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>>335648397
I had a similar thing happen to me. I was fighting a 4v1 and actually doing relatively well. Then an Aldritch faithful guy invaded and I expected him to help me clean these scrubs up. The host started beating his ass and when he saw it was a 4v2 he started attacking me with the host's phantoms as if to try and say "OH NO I'M WITH YOU GUYS LOL". They initially started beating his ass but then stopped as he casted spells on me. I killed two of the phantoms and then died. Faggot Aldritch dude started clapping and the remaining phantom spammed "Thank you" drops. Then the host backstabbed and killed the Aldritch fag before I disappeared.

I think this was the only time I ever got mad at an invasion. Not even at the host and 3 phantoms, but at that Aldritch dude for being a total faggot.
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>>335647960
>tfw you invade anyways and a win is sweeter than ever
Become proficient.
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>2v1 and they cheer and emote

it's too funny
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>>335648971
Not true I've had it happen to me, I think it can happen with the fingers.

>>335648728
That sounds fun, I just hate when I beat all the phantoms the host runs around trying to look for new signs to pick up, so more phantoms appear. I think it should lock after you're invaded so you can't summon someone new unless you got way of the blue or something like that
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>>335648720
Nope, people have been editing other people's savefiles in DS3
This guy got a permanent change and had to roll back a save
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvCB6WOl2MA&feature=youtu.be&t=16m51s
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>>335647960
>It's a host (who did nothing while his two summons fought you) uses a taunt emote when you die episode.
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>>335649193
>Tfw insecure fags get triggered by gank squad victory emotes

Geez get a grip, its all fun and for sport
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>>335645195
I've got a story

>invading as purple in crucifixtion woods
>wearing untrue dark ring for really no reason
>spawn near host, 2 phantoms, and a red
>host is wearing the exact same thing as me
>thief mask + clerics set
>make peace and chill
>one phantom, a sunbro, takes an interest in me
>we begin to duel
dark spirit has invaded
>he causes chaos
>giant clusterfuck of murder for about 5 seconds before we all cool off again, new red dies and old red is near death
>neither I or sunbor estused, continue duel
>habing on by a sliver fo health, he's at about 25%
Mad Dark Spirit has invaded
>get hit in the back of the head with an axe literally a second later
>fucker spawned behind me and I looked like the host

wrote this down bout 2 days ago, didn't want to forget it
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>>335649193
>3 man gank squads go-to gesture is clapping when they stunlock someone from all sides

it's hilarious and I want to see more of it
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>>335649059
>>335649198

Bullshit I tried summoning two friends of mine for fight club with the dried finger but I had a blue spawn and I was unable to summon my friend as his sign vanished when I got a blue and reappeared when the blue finally left.
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>>335642754
Ricards Rapier should be in SSS tier, it's better than estoc in every single way with only 8 points less base damage. It's weapon art is incredible for catching people off guard, it pokes faster, and has longer range. I don't get the meme with estoc.
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>>335649328

hey anon it's all fun and games, you seem mad people invade you.
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>summon purp
>black phantom invades me same time
>they both try and hunt me down

>get invaded and im alone
>guy pussying out and trying to lure me into the level

>pop a dried finger alone
>the black phantoms just hide in the level

>get invaded in the swamp
>the phantoms just wait near the darkwraiths or on the other side of a swamp island so I get fucked by swamp sludge
BREHS JUST FIGHT ME
I DONT HAVE A GANK SQUAD ARENT YOU HAPPY?
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>>335645195
fun times
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>>335649407
Idk what to tell you bro, but that shit definitely happened to me
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>>335642754
This idiot clearly hasn't tried off-handing a caestus. Best reaction parry weapon I've found so far, I'm pretty sure it's instant.
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>>335644024
Pharis gets B in dex skaling when upgraded
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>>335649417
estoc can be gained at the start of the game and is good all the way through
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>>335649430
Well i dont get mad like ever. so get fucked retard

btw i probably emoted your stupid ass when you tried to invade my gank squad. you dumb solo player get some friends loser
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>>335649586

>all this anger

yeah, you're not mad. Like, not at all.
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>can summon friends to play with
>can't invade with friends
Why
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>>335649580
Yeah but people keep using it in pvp and they are fucking shit with it. I body estocs with ricards rapier, they straight up dont know what to do, not to mention the estoc is so easily parried, and if they try to estus I just avelyn them. Estoc is not the best weapon in the game, by far it's not.
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>>335649338
>get summoned to game
>host + 2 phantoms
>get invaded
>only I take interest in the invader
>we duel each other for a good 30min I think as the host and other phantom do whatever
>midway through the fight we both stop and bow to each other like we first greeted in respect to each other
>feel autist but whatever it was cool
>fight goes on, finally I get him down to low health, only 1 flask left
>he realized he can't best me, does collapse emote to let me execute him
>I finish him off, and do a bow
Felt like story bro
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>>335637638
>summoned by a host with another phantom in the Grand Archives
>receive an invasion message after riding the elevator up to the bridge
>other two start booking it to the boss room, probably hoping to clear the path before the invader arrives
>hear the elevator go back down
>wait behind the elevator, expecting the invader to see my grossly incandescent glow
>she doesn't
>she starts running to the bridge, spotting the host and other phantom tangling with hollows
>cue her imbuing her weapon with dark magic or some shit
>I've been one step behind the entire time, just backstab as soon as she started
>lay the final hit after she gets up, dead
Did I gank? Should I feel bad? I was prepared to 1v1 if they actually spotted me, but this invader didn't watch their six.
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>Level 34
>Black flame, Chaos orb, forbidden flame
>Blood shotel +6, Executioner greatsword +6
>All that stagger damage with the knight ring
>That fucking bleed build up with the weapon skill
>Gargoyle flame spear +6
>That knockback with the weapon skill


Should I even bother trying to get past Aldrich if I'm just focusing on low level invasions?
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>>335642754
>no Morion Blade
>no Ghru weapons

Mm sounds like we got a faggot over here.
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>>335649710
Yes you can put a password on network, is this your first souls game?
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>>335649193
>3vs1 with giant seed and the host taunts your dead body after not even dealing damage to you
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>>335649764
>Did I gank?
Yes.
>Should I feel bad?
No.
A good invader needs to have map awareness. That one did not.
Assuming that's all that happened.
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>>335649832
I want to invade other players with my friends which we can't do retard. I know the password system lets me summon friends I want to invade the same fuck with them. Not talking about red soapstones before you even mention it
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Is +8 and +4 weapons at sl 60 a good place to be for invading?
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>>335642754
>Scythes are A tier
Lolno.
I use Scythes.
They're B, maybe C.
>Whips are D
Whips are at least B.
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>>335649849
Patches Squat on invader everytime. Dont care how he died.
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>>335649890
>map awareness
>all the mobs are dead
>happen to spawn near the entire group
invasions in this game are fucking shit
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>>335649981
You never have been able to do that you fucking retarded chimp. Think about how fucking retarded that would be if you could just invade people on masse and have 4 plus people in different covenants ganking one person. Thank god retarded people like yourself aren't in any position to decide game mechanics.
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So, where the fuck on this map do I go to find the Coal for Chaos Gems and Chaos Gems?
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>>335650006
if you're invading in the area after pontif then yes
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>>335649808
Just don't level up and have a fun time anon. Lv.40-50 seems to be the range with most action in my experience.
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>>335650156
Hmmmm coal of chaos....what place would you find it in most likely.

Hint it's a very hot place.
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>Host has 3 phantoms
>Mad phantom comes in, clearly with the host
>BLUE FUCKING SENTINEL SHOWS UP.
FUCK. WHY?
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>>335649417
The game is fairly new anon. Think about where Ricard's is located. How many people do you think are aware of it compared to those that are not?
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>>335650094
I never said you could do that
>oh it's ok for the game to send invaders to worlds that have 2 phantom priority where they can 3 v 1 you
How about you take that priority system and only make it to where a group of invaders can invade another group?
If people can have fun ganking me with friends I am entitled to invade them with mine
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>>335649193
>Invade as a purple in Ithryll
>Make them chase me through the church towards the lake
>They kill me and start cheering
>And then those phantoms in the cellar finish them off
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>>335650156
Farron Coal is in Road of Sacrafices behind the Black Knight
Sages Coal is in Farron Keep behind the lone Darkwraith
Giants Coal is in Anor Londo in the giants hand, cant miss it
Profaned Coal is in Iithyril Dungeon in the room with 6 Jailers

I think the coal you want is Sages coal
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>>335650302
That is not going into that consideration when people are saying that estoc is literally the best weapon in the game for pvp. You even put it at fucking SSS tier, people who even think for a second that the estoc is top tier are fucking retarded.
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>>335650175
Cool. Also, are +4 weapons considered in the tier of +8 or +9?
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>>335649849
>invade Irythrill Central Area
>4 fucking dudes all glowing white doing the Patches Squat (host was wearing phantom ring)
>All of them are named "FaZe (name)"
>Giant Seed already popped
>Fight for a little while but 4v1's are fucking stupid
>They chase me into mobs and mobs swing and cast spells all over the fucking place
>Swing at the host as he's getting fucking ruined by fire
>Get a comment on my steam page
>"YOU'RE LUCKY MY FRIEND THOUGHT GIANT SEED MAKES THE ENEMIES FRIENDLY FUCKING FAGGOT"

I laughed harder than I had in a good while. I was getting all kinds of parries but could never follow up because someone was always swinging to stop me. They were so bad.
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>>335650156
Alright, how the fuck do I get to the Consumed King's garden?

Do I have to kill Dancer first or am I just not looking correctly?
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>>335650436
I didn't make that list anon. I'm a diehard user of the Farron Greatsword and I think he's a faggot for not rating it fucking T tier.
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>>335650547
Exactly, the quality of DS player that needs multiple summons is extremely easy to kill one on one
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>>335650547
>invade in Carthus Catacombs
>Host and 2 Phantoms are at 2nd rolling ball, killing Bone wheels
>I run to bridge
>Put on obscuring ring and wait patiently
>They all run across the bridge
>halfway across I cut it
>1 Phantom makes it to me
>EMIT FORCE
>They all fall to their death
>PATCHS SQUAT
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>>335650724
Kill dancer.
Go left after the ladder.
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>>335650724

yep, kill the dancer then take a left after you climb the ladder
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>>335650724
>>335650829
to kill the dancer properly just fuckin make sure you ALWAYS have enough room to roll backwards 4~ times for when she starts spinnin like a fuckin faggot (you cus you use two katanas)
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>>335650754
Yeah I honestly think that all the weapons are pretty balanced in this game. I want to use them all I started with warden's twinblades which are sick for pvp. Just put a carthus rouge on it and watch people drop.
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>>335650325
Git gud

Also I'm entitled, kek
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>>335641102
>washing pole
>dark sword
>So bad he can't counter a greatshield memer.

You deserved every minute of this invasion.
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>>335650992
Fought someone using those in a fight club recently. Getting caught in the weapon art is a a Bleed proc 100% of the time, holy shit. I only won because they were getting way too predictable, but man. I can see why you like them. That shit hurts.
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>>335642754
>not using a torch
Pleb
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>>335648876
See your annoyed, thats the point.
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>>335651181
Yeah, you go 40/40 dex/luck and then you put sharp on it for B scaling and even though you wont be doing as much damage with quality, the bleed makes it completely ridiculous. But now I use ricard's rapier with cestus in offhand for parrying.
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All of you like to pretend you're PVP badasses but all I see is whining about dumb things like "gank squads"

Guess what? That's part of the game, just like someone invading and fucking up your progress is part of the game
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>>335641102
>ponytail helmet

kek

the dude was wearing a giant chef hat and he kicked ur ass, get cooked faggot

i guess ur katana bankai wasnt strong enough bruh
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I've been jacking off in the woods with the Big Dogs as a Grapist. SL29
>Decide to Sherpa some shitheads through the swamp
>Stab a few dogs, get some shackles, host gets to live another day. Win for both of us.
>That or once the dogs or other invaders show up, stab the fuck out of the host. Win for the rest of us.
>This one host I find is tenacious as fuck
>Never gets invaded once
>Make it all the way through the woods
>Extinguish two of the three fires in the swamp
>He even manages to survive against that jumpy ass goat thing after the first tower
>Fifteen minutes have passed and this son of a bitch is just not going down
>We're both low on Estus, he must be getting edgy, my murder boner is edging like crazy
>We both start climbing the ladder to the Great Wolf Ferron
>He suddenly gets to the top of the ladder, stops, and I ram into his ass
>Motherfucker starts kicking me
>After everything we've been through, you horrible son of a bitch
>I start smashing away at his legs
>Stagger him twice
>On the third hit he goes plummeting down
>mfw

I sure do love helping!
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Are any of the scythes worth using?
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>>335642754
>SS TIER:
>twinswords


FUCKING LEAVE

FUCKIN LEAVE NOW
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>>335642754
>dark sword in SS
>dark sword higher than broad sword.

Oh my fuck, he fell for the meme.
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Thoughts on pic related? It looks alright.
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I'm at SL 80 wrecking people at Pontiff's still. Should I level anymore? My dex is not even at 40 yet still 30. Was going for 40/40. Should I just stop leveling?
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>>335651947
Most people are going to 120, that's the established meta just like demon souls and dark souls 1. Even if you stay at 80 you can get way higher level people than you because it's a mixture of SL and weapon upgrade level, 120 is a great time to stop, tons and tons of pvp.
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>invade just after the pontiff bonfire
>run to the usual pvp area
>see three or four people hiding
>throw down a hello carving and wave
>host jumps out of hiding and instafucks me
>they all go back to fight clubbing
what
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>>335652082
>tons and tons of pvp

citation needed
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don't have the game yet, is the DS3 lance as good as its DS2 counterpart?
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>>335651940
tired of midgets fallin from walls and comboing me with it

fuck that axe

try the brigand axe. looks cooler and fuck midgets
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>>335652235
When I got to irrythyl after pontyff I literally see so many red/purple summon signs that I can't even differentiate and have to spend 30 seconds tabbing through them to summon, and I already beat the boss in the area on NG+2 so that's not even counting white phantom signs. The majority will always go to 120 because that's when builds even before becoming too op, just like in DeS and DS
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>>335652082
If you only want gay bowing in honoraburr duels maybe.

You're not invading anyone in the catacombs or the prison like that.
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>>335652461
Yeah I do, takes me like 10 seconds to find someone in Undead settlement and other non fight club areas, I get invaded non stop on my playthrough of NG++, which I did to get my iron protection ring +2, chloranthy +2 and ring of favor +2
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>>335651940
Normal Axes are terrible. Only use them if you really really like axes
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>>335651580
Pontiff's is great and has a self buff.
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>>335650517
Please respond.
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>>335650547
>FaZe
Ugh, that shitty clan
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About to NG+, what are some commonly missed things people should do before going into NG+? I made sure to get every ring I could on this playthrough. I already feel like I'm missing something as it is though.
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The curved sword from nameless king is actually really good.
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>>335652365
so it's literally just pontiff fags?

no thanks
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>>335648062
Does it get any hyper armour? Maybe use it like people are using that pyromancy grab attack.

Also, how is it when you hit? Anything I've seen in the game so far that has any relation to healing has been complete shit.
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>>335652327
Sorry to hear about your leprechaun problem bro.I thought about the brigand axe looked cool too, but that quickstep tho.

>>335652598
Yeah, i kinda just like axes, they are satisfying to use.
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>>335653001
Nah, I have been invaded in random areas 50 times this playthrough in NG++, I mean you can stay at low level pvp, but there will always be more pvp at 120, that's just the SL that everyone gravitates towards.
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>>335642754
Dragonslayer Swordspear didn't seem like it did nearly enough damage for the stat investment.
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>>335653090
>50 times

probably because you were the only one available for invasion

it's probably like 200 faggots attempting to invade vs 15 people actually going through the game
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>>335652974
Did you visit the cell where you found the blind nun? Did you ever see Anri again after the church of Yorshka?
Did you gesture in the prison?
Did you find a dark graveyard?
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>>335652871
>That tenga ad

I think the invasion weapon levels are +2/-2
So you'd be invading people with +2 weapons or +6 weapons
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>>335653001
You can get invasions everywhere still at 120. I literally was just invaded right now at High Wall. Then I invaded someone else afterwards. Much less gank squads from what I've noticed, unless you go to the popular areas like Kiln, Forest, Pontiff without a summoning sign.
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>>335653179
Lol dude, literally everyone is going 120, there is no doubt that there it's 3 to 1 in 120 vs 80 SL pvp. This is just how it's always been, I mean dude you know you are probably fighting 110-120s because the way matchmaking works right? That's a nice attempt to dismiss SL 120 pvp though.
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>>335653238
Yep. Did that stuff. Bought 1 set of every armor and spell I could too, actually. Just going all out to get everything I can, but there is a nagging feeling in my brain like I missed something. It's probably just paranoia, right?
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>>335653012
dark hand has no hyper armor at all. you honestly should never use the l2 unless its for shits and giggles

Heals for quite a bit but with such a long wind up you're never grabbing anyone unless they really fuck up
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>>335653410
In dark souls 1 sl120 pvp was literally fucking burg and township only. I want to invade in Sens? Good luck.
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>>335653410
>I mean dude you know you are probably fighting 110-120s because the way matchmaking works right?

that's not how matchmaking works though, unless I'm being invaded
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>>335653675
Just backtrack and look at shit man. We probably haven't discoveredeverything, game is new as hell.
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>>335653726
But you could invade in other places, it is more populated, people are running through the game still, I had no problem invading others at SL 120, even in demon souls, kek.
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>>335653675
I dunno that depends.
Legit spoilers by the way.

Did you Get all of the miracle tombs ?
Did you make sure to Kill the sorcerer npc before he goes to the Archives to get his ashes ?
Did you find all the covenants?
Did you infuse / upgrade all weapon types?
Did you kill the stray demon?
Did you help Sirris?
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>>335653703
>parry
>dick hand kiss of death
FUCK
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Is it even possible to parry greathammers? People keep trying to parry me and they just end up getting stunlocked.
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>>335654047
You can find the dead Sorcerer in the Archives and grab his ashes anyways. Yuria will even talk as though you killed him and give you the Morion Blade.
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>>335654069
i thought this would work but the player doing the failed parry can dodge the hand very easily
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>>335650517
You mean +4 boss weapons, Yes +8. You just double it and that its equivalent on normal weapons.
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>>335654346
When i said parry, i was implying that the person actually has to successfully parry an opponent's attack. Unfortunately otherwise this does not provide much of an opening, in fact it makes the player wide open for a counter attack. If only it was possible to not use the hand until you can tell whether you successfully parried or not. Oh well, another cool weapon in the trash.
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>>335654047
I got the Sorcerer ashes from Grand Archives after buying all the spells. Couldn't get all the miracle tomes because Yuria never showed up. Guess I'm gonna have to do the hollow shit next playthrough?

Rest of the stuff you commented on I made sure to do. Sunset helm is my favorite helm right now and I can't quite figure out what it is that I like about it. It's a nice gold little cone. Also went back and got Havel's armor by the Stray Demon after Arch Dragon Peak.

>>335654258
I've heard it cannot be done when 2h, but I have no idea how true that actually is.
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>>335648045
SL76?

Am i underleveld for AL?

Rolling 55, str faith, large club.

I have no idea whats appropriate level this game
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>>335654991
Fuck no. He's kind of overleveled but not really because everyone is overleveled for PvP now.

I finished the game on my first run at level 75, so 55 for anal rodeo is fine.
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>>335654991
you got this

just git gud at rolling during bosses
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>parrying works like the shitty DaS2 version
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>Invading in Archdragon Peak

Holy shit it's too easy. Literally free embers and covenant items
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>weapon has stat requirement but doesn't scale from it
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>>335651508
>>335651160
>>335647881
Out of curiousity what are you actually meant to do when fighting someone with a greatshield like that? I fought a guy duel wielding Havel's Shield and the only way I could damage him was pyromancies.
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>>335655506
do you use dropping attacks and aim for the head?
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>>335655701
man if you use anything with Stance

probably dont make it obvious (pretend you dont know what the fuck to do) then fuckin use the guard breaking attack, swing at his shield and roll away afew times first, throw a random firebomb to make yourself look stupid

then

fucking

smash his shield

>theres a ring that makes shielding dudes lose more stamina on block, try that
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>>335647775
Not when people constantly move backwards. The delay makes it impossible.
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>>335655849
That ring does basically nothing. The stamina loss on greatshields is so small that it'd have to buff the bonus stamina damage by like 300% to have a noticeable impact.
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>Finish the game up
>Can't really invade anymore so much as fuck with other pvpers.
>Afraid to level past 80 since no one knows what the meta is going to be.

How hard do you think it would be to get a SL 20 past Champion Gunyr for the hornet ring?
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>>335655926

I go at them with a shotel until they die.
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>>335650301
Grape probably got the shitty "Kill 3 phantoms or the host" objective and decided to shave some off it with you.
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>>335655926
break their shields then

use weapon that has Stance on it itll break the fuckin shield

then you can stab him in the gut and set him on his ass

>use a shield that doesnt parry but instead goes right into 2h and weapon art stance

you can do the shield breaking attack in like under 2 seconds while this faggot is tryna circle around you and get a backstab or w/e he does idk
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>>335655960
why not just wait til meta, and make a whole new character with a build specific for pvp in mind???
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>>335656135
>Guy puts shield up
>back pedals
>Impossible to kick him
>Impossible to hit him with most attacks
>His shield just eats running attacks then he rolls away.


I frankly don't know how to handle shields short of running R2s with shotel weapons
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>>335656235
idk lol don't chase him

throw the equilavent of Lloyd's talisman (whatever its called) if hes drinking too much koolaid

then next time he tries to drink you might get lucky and he might get stuck in the "oh shit juice aint working" animation that is long as fuck and fuckin get to backstab him
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Does anyone have a problem with like, you're invaded or invading and the enemy has like a butter knife while you have a great sowrd but is some how hitting you even though you're like 10 ft away? But when I swing I never touch them, is it just a lag issue?
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>>335656235
maybe predict his roll, then kick him when he gets up
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what did the update change? Are covenants still fucked?
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>>335656430
ye hes prob from a different region or has like 300 ping

butter knife more like better knife
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>>335656350
Would actually be an option if you were allowed more than 5 of the talismans.
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>>335656507
Covenants have never been fucked.
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>>335655960
Champion is not hard at all. Just parry him repeatedly. It will take a while. Admittedly, I only could parry 2 of his attacks 100% of the time, so I literally just waited for those. Just have patience. Consumed King is easy since he has no real threatening attacks. It's all just being calm and wait for your moment.
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>>335656507
Update broke game for me, can't find server and frame rate issues being reported.
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Will I be able to invade people who are SL <35 once I go for NG? I would need to re-spec since right now I'm SL 120 and all I'm doing is dueling in pontiff area. Kinda bored of it so I wanna I wanna start some shenanigans in the catacombs.

I would re-spec right now but I'm an idiot and used up all my chances in changing my character.

I don't want to start a new char just yet because I want to go in NG with all my cool gear .
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>there will never be a functioning Gravelord covenant
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>>335656213
>>335655960
why worry? You can totally respec your character.
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>>335656537
maybe try a bleeding weapon?

huge chunk of HP free, just gotta actually sink some hits in

shouldnt need more than 2 talismans for one armor dude
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>>335656773
You cannot invade them, no. You would need to start a new character. The game factors in Soul Level and Weapon Level. You are much to high to invade anyone except for people within -10 levels or +30 levels. Since you've surely got a +10 weapon, you're also locked in to people who have +10 weapons.
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>>335656773
what?

you wont be able to do shit if they are <35 and ur 120

start a new game ofc
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>>335657068
Hitting with talismans is almost impossible.
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>>335642069
>burger king shield +3

what

LOL
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>>335657081
Right but that's why I would re-spec to lower my SL. And what if I ditch my +10 weapon?
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>>335657198
lure him to a corner, wait til he passes it with his shield up and toss it at him

or do it in a hallway where he can only roll forward or back

if ur having trouble with him get away, why not shrink his options
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>>335657256
>Right but that's why I would re-spec to lower my SL
That's not how respec works. You can't lower your SL,
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>Mfw people use White Branches or summon phantoms when they get invaded
>No one uses sweet ass Octocamo
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>>335657374
LOL


this game is funny
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>>335654650
Wouldn't work. The animation is already so long that you'd barely get it off if you used it after a parry. That would mean you'd need to have it in your right hand preemptively to actually get it.
>Can only get one dark hand per playthrough
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>>335657374
This has actually gotten me more times than I would like to admit
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I FINALLY GOT THE DARK HAND OFF ON SOMEONE

and it did pitiful damage
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Was fun when the game launched but now I just see the same stupid shit builds all day and I just BTFO of everyone with a home run BKGA.

Online for these games dies so fast since everyone just looks at wiki's.
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>>335657256
You cannot alter your actual soul level without cheating. The re-spec is just to move your stats around, not change your level.
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>>335657525
>>335657427
It's hilarious how well it works too. Fuck I even managed to trick someone into thinking I was a Silver Knight in Anor Londo. Didn't record it though. But have this guy thinking I'm a tree or some shit.
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>>335657363
Wait, really? Damn I didn't know that.

So how the hell can I use my dragon slayer greatbow in the catacombs at SL <35? I'm going to have to make all the way to Anor Lando at only SL 35?
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>>335657647
nah man i meant look at that dude with his crazy hair rolling around with a scythe out

probably thinks his dude looks cool while hes controlling it but boy oh boy does he looks silly
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>>335657647
>havels anything
>katana

wow

WOW
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>Playing through Archdragon Peak
>Died to Nameless King about 15 times
>Think "Fuck it, I'll cool off with some PvP"
>Invade in Anor Londo
>Mfw this is the first world I invade
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>>335657737
Yes. You really didn't think there would be measures against character twinking?
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>people get out their target shield or caestus while I'm using a greathammer
just fucking try it you dumb faggot
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>>335657737
it's not that hard anon, summon phantoms if you're bad.
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>>335657737
git gud
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>>335657906
theres so many new shitters that got good at parrying because of how easy it is in 3, two handing an ultra weapon and just smashing their face in is great.
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>>335657647
I seriously can't comprehend how that guy didn't notice you
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>>335657852
they look like a 5 year old girl played dress up with them

fuckin hair like an old ass barbie doll
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>>335657995
cant see over his dumbass shield
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>>335657838
It's amazing how the people that have gear like that are usually the most retarded. I still don't know how the fuck this guy got Havel's shit, this was on release day and he somehow had all this shit. I speculate he was a hacker since he one shot me after running around my world for twenty minutes once I jumped out at him.
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>>335657980
Morne's greathammer is in of itself an amazing weapon for dealing with shitters
R1 spam from an estoc/dark sword/katana? Engage the weaponskill and destroy ass
Parry fishing? Charge up that R2 and grind them into the dirt
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>>335658120
couldve had the japanese version or some shit first and beat it
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>>335657934
>>335657915
>>335657893

Tarter sauce.
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>>335657852
I invaded Anor Londo once and got ganked by two people, one wearing Ornstein's set with the matching spear and one wearing Smough's set with the matching hammer.
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>>335658151
i usually stick to the astora greatsword, horizontal R1s + thrust R2 with silly range. i don't use the charge often though.
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Why the fuck does every enemy have a billion poise while you have dick shit nothing?
Every time there's a lightweight thief trash mob that swings their dagger twenty times in succession, they fucking wreck house when hugging the ass of a comrade thief. Fuck sake man.
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>>335658456
the charge is a miracle machine for when someone is running away to chug since half the time you'll just catch them with the end of it and kill them
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Been 3-4 man ganking invaders all week. to restock on estus before bosses.

>Archives Ganking invaders with my 3 phantom buddies using young branches to lure them into a trap.
>Using a Seed of Giants in the dungeon. Watching invaders get shanked by jailers over and over. Then watch them get rekt by the giant downstairs. Then by maidens before the giant boss fight in the capital.

Hilarious shit. Some will get man enough to msg us on psn.

What do you expect? Almost everybody online will have phantoms up, and anybody whos soloing is playing offline or un-embered to avoid invader bullshit.
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>>335658507
do you know if the charge is parryable?
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>>335637638
Drang Armor is just too good. There's like, literally no reason to NOT use it unless you're
>/fa/ Souls
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>>335639861
Same but level 20 since there's no reason to be lower. Also love when people invade me while I'm sitting there and I fuck them up.

Just using a raw uchi +1 with magic weapon right now, want to switch to something better but I don't know what
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>>335637638
Being a Darkmoon is really fun.
You get to meet really funny invaders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjlE1aPBxRA
I think this guy is from a /v/ thread, Tori-ojisana.
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>>335658570
I'm not sure. I'm also not sure if the unparryable weapons stayed the same from DS2. I know the curved GS is parryable now but it seems like GH and GA remain the same. If it counts the charge as a standing attack and not running then yeah it should be unparryable.
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>>335658815
i know all the regular 2h attacks and the running R2 are unparryable, and the running R1 IS parryable, but i've never tried the charge.
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>>335658814
How do you get summoned. I've been in the Darkmoon covenant for all of NG+. I'm in Cathedral of the Deep and still haven't been summoned.
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>>335642754
>no broadsword
>no torch

Look at this little bitch over here.
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>>335658930
I'm level 140 and get summoned a lot. Like A LOT. Got 30 concords in two days. Try levelling up and getting a weapon to +10.
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>>335658996
I'm SL 80 and have two +10 weapons. Still haven't been summoned once though if I'm Aldrich I get summoned all the fucking time.
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>>335642754
Here's a real tier list for you:
>S tier
estoc
>A tier
everything else
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>>335659095
I've never won against a player using an Estoc. The range, attack speed and stagger rate on that thing is phenomenal. Almost debating getting one as a secondary weapon but I'd rather use the Irithyll great scythe, even if the damage is fucking terrible.
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>tfw Dark Souls 1 is dead
>tfw it will take me at least a year to get a decent computer or console to play it
>everybody will be gone by then

Feels bad man
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>>335659193
trade him with strength weapons, UGS poke with the leo ring, one of the poise weaponarts into a combo, stop being a R1 masher, or learn how to parry
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>>335641102
YOU HAVE A SWORD THAT CAN BREAK THEIR GUARD
HOLY FUCK HOW DUMB ARE YOU
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>>335644051
I can't fucking beat the dancer at level 20, I had no problems at higher levels but god damn, her taking 60 damage a hit and me dying in 2 hits makes it extremely difficult. Got the abyss watchers and deacons super easy though. Also stuck on high lord since I can't do enough damage quick enough.
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what's a good way to do damage through shields? shotel, one of the shield splitter weapons, or just stacking bleed?
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>>335659302
>stop being a R1 masher,
But R1 is the attack button. You'd prefer I spam R2?
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>>335659490
I am a fan of bleed, I just equip my estoc and apply bleed for greatshield users.
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>>335659530
R2 is also an attack button, so is L2 most of the time.
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>>335645295
I've seen so many people like you pulling this info out of their asshole. Fuck off nigger cunt.
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>>335647819
>that pic

don't do it granny!!
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>>335645480
No you moron, there is still poise without hyper armor.

All they did was get rid of idle poise, if you're standing still you get 0 benefit from poise. Poise is important for slower weapons.
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I have 386k Souls. What do I spend them on. Help
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>>335659740
they're so militant about it too, it's weird.

>>335659834
you're objectively 100% wrong and people have posted multiple videos proving that poise is turned off/doesn't work.

poise has 0 effect on hyper armor, you could be naked and get the same hyper armor frames as you would with full havels.
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>>335659916
not health
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>>335659916
titanite. or consumables. i have 1.4m souls right now, saving until i get the ashes for titanite again.
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Just got done with a 2v1 using the greatsword.
> backwards roll into a double power attack
> having both of them run into it
>use r2 right as they try to roll away and get hit on the edge of its range
God that was first battle with the greatsword and it felt great baiting them into that
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>>335659627
Weapon arts are often very useless or there's no opportunity to use it, and strong attacks are much slower and telegraph far more, allowing players to react. R2 is better for some slower enemies.
R1 is the attack button, it's what you use to deal damage. Get over it.
Dark Souls 3 is not a DMC game for crying out loud.
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>>335645530
>summoning another phantom

this is my bane. are faggots really that terrified of invaders that they always have to summon a goddamn army to take out one guy?

>invade literally anywhere
>look around and see dead bodies leading up to bonfire
>tfw "summoning another phantom..."
>host kites around you until the phantoms spawns and goes on the attack
every goddamn third invasion is like this (the rest already has their ganksquads loaded up).
What made people such pussies in these games? Wasn't even NEARLY this bad in the past. yes, I'm aware of the new system that priorizes hosts with phantoms, but fucking still
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>>335659938
If poise did literally nothing they would have removed the stat from the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEXrcIOrLXI

Poise is the reason why I didn't get knocked out of my weapon skill, and why my opponent didn't flinch and I did when we both hit each other at the same time. It is NOT hyper armor. I've been knocked out of my attack at that point many times by bosses and other mobs. I'm not even sure if 100% hyper armor exists.

Poise literally does what it says it does, it increases the resistance to having your form broken. They turned off the idle poise which is what you are thinking of. It doesn't work like in DaS1 where you can pretty much ignore anyone not using a fucking massive weapon. Get used to it.
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>>335660402
i'm not saying you shouldn't use R1, but if that's all you use you're very predictable. R2s and weapon arts can sometimes be more useful than R1s. for example, the Astora GS is an UGS with regular horizontal swings, but the R2 is a strong poke than can outrange just about everything short of a pike. a lot of the boss weapons also have wacky weapon art moves that can throw people off.
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>>335660402
If you'd fought against anyone that wasn't another dank sword R1 spammer like you then you'd know the different situations you can use weapon arts, and even a simple R2 throws parryfags off plus gets much more damage in for their mistake.

You'd have to literally be an actual shitter to think R1 is the only useful attack in this game.
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>>335660598
Ganks squad are fun because all invaders are salty little neckbeards and when they get bum rushed by 3 guys i can just imagine him throwing his controller against the wall
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>>335647960
Git gud faggot
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>>335660632
that's because stomp and perseverance make you immune to stuns for 2 seconds, it has nothing to do with poise, you can also do that naked.

poise literally does nothing.
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>>335660713
Alright, guess I'm a shitter. Doesn't change the fact I win almost every time just by timing my R1's well.
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>>335660598
People are afraid of dying I guess. However, it is their world and they'll do whatever it takes to win. You are in their world uninvited. I don't mind invaders, so I don't go out of my way to summon phantoms to fight for me.
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How can you have the uncracked red eye orb at SL20?
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>>335660821
Go get it?
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>Finally get Darkmoon summons
>Get Duty Fulfilled messages but I'm never in time to actually fight the invader
>No Concords

I'm confused, do I have to actually kill the Invader to get one?
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>>335660786
go to the pontiff's backyard and throw your red sign down and watch as you lose every fight you get summoned to. random invaders are shit 9 times out of 10.
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>>335660402
>Weapon Arts are often useless

The only weapon art so far that I've really felt is useless is Straight Swords Stance into thrust. Stance into shield break is useful. There are some weapons that combo into their weapon art for Full to death combos such as BK Glaive. Go ahead try it. It's as easy as R1 L2 R2. Boom. Anyone who isn't a host is dead. Pretty much every curved sword can combo for R1 into Weapon art resulting in much better damage than two R1's. I use two R1's as a measure because anyone with a brain will roll away after 2. Maybe you're just not using your weapon arts properly?
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I've been trying to improve at the game's PvP but the overwhelming truth of the matter is that I am complete shit at it.

No matter what weapon I try to enjoy I just never seem to play worth a goddamn.
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>>335660598
It's really hard to not summon when invading faggots hide behind enemy mobs as soon as things go south for them.

If I see an invader going towards mobs I start summoning left and right, eat shit.
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>>335660876
you might need to make it to the world before the red spirit dies. a lot of time the blue spirit will show up a minute later and i've already killed the red spirit.
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>>335660821
Given to you buy some dude at fire link. However later on, when you find a pale tongue you can just get the complete red eye orb. You can get a pale tongue pretty early as well.
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>>335660723
this, get some friends and bait invasions
it's great fun watching invaders getting btfo by my one friend's pyromancy while me and another friend fuck him up with ultra greatswords
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>>335660723
>Ganks squad are fun

They really aren't, I'be been summoned to a few and just black crystalled out after a few guys invaded in.

It's boring as shit just dash attacking at a red rolling away, then you step back and you realize these 3 faggots are desperately chasing this one guy like niggers who spot a white girl in a German club. I got second hand embarrassment as I sat down and let these other fools run around gathering my tokens for me.
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>>335660941
put on the carthus iframe ring and get good at rolling. then get good at poking people and not getting hit. grats now you're good at pvp
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>>335660821
You kill the Darkwraith near the bottom of an early area.
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>>335660876
What SL are you? I've never been summoned as a Darkmoon.
And yes, you need to kill a red for the concord.
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>>335660598
How to fix: Can't summon any one person more than once before rest at bonfire
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>>335649043
In the overlay there's a button next to friends called players, you wanna look at the recent tab. Shows everyone you've met recently in chronological order.
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>Mfw I invade host in kiln kill his phantom
>he resummons the same phantom
>I kill him again
>he resummons the same phantom yet again
>I kill the phantom once more only now I'm out of estus
>host resummons while dodging me
>get ganked and die
Thanks from you fucking idiots, is it really so hard to disable summoning while an invaders present?
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>>335660783
Tell you what if fromsoft officially says poise does nothing I'll believe your bullshit. Until then the fact that they didn't remove poise, poise rings, and poise on weapon arts is a better argument that poise does nothing, than the fact that someone found out how to turn on passive poise.

Stomp doesn't make you immune to stun, it literally says "increases poise", does not make you immune to getting stunned by an attack.
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Jesus Christ people are still talking about poise? Juutas tested it. Poise prevents stagger when you're hit during roll recovery frames. It has nothing to do with attack hyper armor.
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>Aldrich faithful at SL50 and+6/7 weapon
>constant invasions
>silver bros providing fire support
>tons of idiots following you when you jump of towers with the silvercat ring on
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>>335661382
do me a favour and go test this out with full havel + weapon of your choice and naked with same weapon.

when you come back i'll accept your apology for being wrong.
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>>335637638
>meme souls 3
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>>335660402
Twinswords spinning slash helps with tight spaces where you'd otherwise hit the wall repeatedly.
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>>335661481
Sure, I'll even make a video of it too.
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>>335641102
outplayed so hard
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>>335661582
have fun.
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>>335661467
>invaders happily use enemy mobs to their advantage but complain about host summoning phantoms

go figure
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>>335661492
I've been thinking about it
should I do it ?
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>>335661682
don't know why more people don't use the giant seed.
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>>335661750
don't use a gun, go jump off a bridge or something.
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>>335661682
Don't even try to act like mobs and phantoms are equivalent. ONE semi-decent phantom can take care of all the mobs, leaving two people to beat on the invader. Hell, the phantoms can rush the invader while the host sits at the bonfire and summons more indefinitely when they die. Go for the host? Then you lose the supposed advantage of mobs. Don't forget that they can all just wait out your invasion because you're on a timer.
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>>335661750
no

dont bother, everythings better soon
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>>335661750
No
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>>335661759
Probably because it just lets the red lead the mobs straight to the host.

And we all know how the host is deathly afraid of mobs.
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>>335661750
sounds boring, why not wait til you die how you were supposed to

cus what if the tape just runs out
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I'm making a mid-level character, around SL 60-70, to maximize invasions, darkmoon summons, etc.

What weapon upgrade level should I stop at to keep my online active?
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>>335637638
I like to invade in Irithyl dungeon because I'm a prick. I wait in ambush for the host to get caught up with the shitty mobs there and then spit toxic mist all over them.
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>>335661846
>>335661869
>>335661870
I thought /v/ liked dark souls 3 ?
I'll hold off on buying it.
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>>335661872
yeah, but if they follow the red there, most of the time they'll stick on him, and you can always try and get the mobs to tag him if they swing at you. i notice a lot of the time on NG4 the phantoms don't expect the mobs to actually be a threat too
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>>335661973
we thought you were going to kill yourself


LOL


buy it
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>tfw you will never whisper softly to your uncracked Red Eye Orb
>you'll never see it wink it's eye at you surreptitiously
>you'll never feed it the souls of the fallen

Feels bad man.
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>invade anywhere
>see "unable to summon phantom"
>tfw it stays like thst until I get to the bonfire
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>>335661973
If you love memes and das2 you'll be right at home you faggot
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>>335662084
>i will never think my life is an anime

feels good man!
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>>335661952
I was using Gundyr +4 at Sl 70 and literally could not make progress through anor londo because of how often I would get aldrich faithful summoned, and unless boss weps are some dipshit scaling that's basically +8
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>>335662198
try just running to the next bonfire, or getting good, or not being embered, or summoning phantoms, or way of blue
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>>335662192
>anime
>cracked out hobo invader with grave warden twinblades + 10 covered in carthus rouge rubbing his red eye orb

I'd watch it.
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>>335662151
I like memes but I've never played DS2
I heard it wasn't as good as the first so I held off on it
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>>335642086
Pretty neato
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>>335637638
>join wolf boys
>lvl 37
>summonsed twice over as many hours
fuck me I want that sword though
>finally summoned to invade
>host has two phantoms
>but I have a fellow wolf boy
>and then a mad spirit invades
>mfw all 3 of us tripping over each other trying to kill host
>closing in for the kill
>connection error
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>>335662273
he was the invader, you numb nut man
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>>335662336
yeah, you're right.
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>>335661243
Something similar happened to me too.

I invaded as a purple, and the phantom died before I spawned in. The host re-summoned him, I led him through Farron Keep to get killed. Then the motherfucker summoned the same dude a 3rd time and I just black crystal'd out.

Fuck gankfests.

As a purple I tend to just charge straight at them and try to grab someone with forbidden flame.

It usually never works out, but it's hilarious.
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>>335662273
are you retarded anon-kun? I was getting summoned, he asked what level to stop for summons and what weapon upgrade. How could you possibly assume I was getting invaded that much. Baka desu senpai
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>>335661243
At the very least there should be a cooldown for summoning.
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>Fightclubs
>My honorable duels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7egzRO5HGo
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>>335662534
that's nothing like the fight club I've been in or seen.
your video is shit
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They really mad it too EZ for hosts in this game. You just summon your fagbros and finish the game with np
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>invading in Catacombs
>triggering floor switches to hit people with flaming arrows
>kicking people and phantoms off ledges and into stairwells
>drawing huge aggro as a grape, like getting the swarm of skellies before the boss to come back through the level to the host
>destroying the bridge
>knocking people off the bridge
>generally ruining peoples' day
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What level weapons are you guys using at like SL20 invasion characters? I'm using a +1 and I'm not sure if I want to risk going higher or not
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>SL 70
>Didn't bother with watchdog covenant, now realize I needed to in order to get the wolf ring and shield for my Arty fashion

Am I fucked beyond repair or can I actually get summoned now?
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>>335651940
>has quickstep
>has decent damage for a weapon with QUICKSTEP

i fucking love the thrall axe
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I've taken up duty to become the "anti-ganker"
I've been putting my gold summon sign down in boreal valley, where all the aldrich invade. It only takes shitters seconds to summon me for help.
I'll greet them and be normal, even help them through the level. When an invader eventually shows up, I wave at them, point at them, and then point at the host before sitting down. If they got the message, they will run right by me and start fucking up the host.
Since phantoms have priority in invasions and I pretty much don't count as a summon, I am nothing but a detriment to the host and am causing him to be repeatedly invaded, and he usually doesn't have time to remove me because he's too busy being you know, invaded.
If an invader doesn't get the message after I spell it out for him multiple times, I'll just kill him. Some guy kept going after me today during a 2v"2" and I just had to put him down even after telling him to go after the host and leave me alone.
I also like to lead hosts down to the double dog dare ya room if they haven't found it yet, aggro both dogs, sit on the ladder and not let them up.
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>Get invaded
>No animations so can't tell what they're doing
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>invade into a fight club
>host fighting some other invader
>when host starts to lose, the two phantoms jump in and gangrape the invader while the host heals
didn't realize black people liked dark souls
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so how is dark souls 3 a hard game still? you can literally have 3 other people play the fucking game for you. There should be no coop summoning in this game.
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>>335663784
It's so normies can have the Dark Souls experience.
You and I, we have no need for comrades.
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>>335663336
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>>335663613
>Summon someone for fight club
>as he gets summoned a red invades me
>red sits up top waiting for the purple nigger I summoned to come
>purple runs in and blasts me with magic before switching to his weebtana
>lay the dick down on him and he keeps retreating using estuses and magic
>aldritch fag invades me
>he runs to the duel arena and interrupts using magic
>both purples spam huge spells at me and rush me with dual weapons
>Red stayed up top and didn't actually backstab me

Respect to him
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What's the etiquette for getting summoned as a purple? Do I try to gain their trust or go straight for the invader or host?
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>>335650156
>19 areas
>4 optional
>never have more than 3 bosses to fight at once

where did it all go wrong
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>>335664116
>etiquette
nigger you're here for one thing, a vertebrae. Get it
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>>335664116
Just kill them.
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>>335663784
Exactly.
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>>335664116
i usually go for phantom kills if possible, depending on what's going on i might go for a red instead of a white.
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>>335663863
Honestly this game is easy with more than one person, my friend and I have rekted every boss on first try that we've done together. I've done a few by myself and won. I'm gonna make a new game and try to beat all of them myself to see if it makes it any harder cause right now I'm just not seeing the challenge. But the catacombs, fuck that place was hard by myself
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>>335642754
>That feel when you never run into estoc fags or at least never run into havelstocs.
Stay around sl ~70 and don't go to sl 120~125 if you want fun fights until From balances a few things.
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>fight clubs are all meta cancer
>invasions are fucked by gank squads everywhere
Here's the best way to enjoy pvp in DSIII. Play with a friend, just play the pve game like you normally would, use the dried finger, fight off the stream of invaders as you go through the game.
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>>335664771
you never run into havel wearing shitters because heavy armor is worthless.
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>>335663784
This could be said about DaS2 and DaS1 and DeS.
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>>335664116
>>335664519
Fucking imbeciles.
You go for the host. ALWAYS. Because 99% of those are humongous faggots who summon 2 or even 3 phantoms to carry them through every zone.
Unless you somehow manage to get summoned by a solo host who is getting his shit pushed in by two watchdogs or faithful.
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Why do reds instantly attack grapes at the first opportunity, even when the host has 3 phantoms about to kill us both?

I have never raised my sword against a red. I always tried to kill the gank squads. Some fingers are just retarded I guess. If by killing me he thinks he can have his way with more than one opponent charging at us, then he set the invasion up to lose. Then again 99 percent of DaS3 players are R1 spammers. They must not be able to control their index fingers.
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>>335664870
I was talking about the shield.
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>invade someone
>they're fatrolling
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>>335661636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OgVBuwH6t0

I had fun. Any other test requests? Also I didn't have havels so I just wore my current armor and a wolf ring. Speaking of which, where do you get havels armor? I remember killing him but apparently I missed it. I imagine a merchant sells it but I made sure to buy all the merchants armor before NG+.
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>>335664938
i don't care mate, i'm usually running around with the dried finger in the way of blue covenant killing you shitter invaders anyways. besides, red spirits are almost always cunts, like >>335664945
says.
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>>335664945
It's the other way around.
Grapes and sunfag invaders instantly aggro on red phantoms like a bull at a red rag.
Which is not entirely unreasonable for grapes, since they get points for killing phantoms as well.
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>>335665042
maybe you're right, but the difference is barely worth the weight and that's a pretty small difference. so poise affects roll recovery and some weapon art specials then. havel's is up by the stray demon, you need to kill him at archdragon peak first.
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>>335664945
Forest covenanters 2: Electric Backstabaloo do this to reds all the time. The watchdogs are 99% of the time mentally retarded and attack reds and purples. Funny thing is that they have the highest mortality rate compared to other players, even the hosts that try to Black Crystal out invaders.
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>>335664771

What do you mean by "fun"?
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>>335665042
>supposed to be poise demonstration video
>does nothing but spam weapon art with super armor
Gosh, you're such a dumdum. If your video proves anything - it's exactly the fact that poise does nothing.
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>>335665095
I always see the "kill x phantom(s)" objective as killing the host's phantoms, not the reds that come after. There is no indicator saying that new phantoms add to the objective tally.

Shit is ridiculous at times. Maybe the reds just toggled lock on and their game camera locks onto me instead. I swear both my grape and a red were strategically maneuvering to take on the 3 sunshits and host by covering both entrances to the room where we were. And he hit me instead, allowing a sunspammer to R1 me.
Then I watch as the host and his crew R1 mash the red and I tell myself, serves him right.

PVP is pretty fucked in Dark Souls 3.
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HOW DO I GET SUMMONED MORE AS A WATCHDOG
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>>335665467
Gankers are much easier to manage, RSS duels are helluva lot more fun etc.
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>>335665503
>There is no indicator saying that new phantoms add to the objective tally.
They don't.
Only the number of phantoms in the host's world at the time when you came in counts. Both friendly and hostile.
But they don't have to be those same phantom specifically. Any phantoms that appear later are legible targets as well.
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Why the fuck do people complain about sorcery being shit? It's always been shit since DeS sans running firestorm and anal bead spam from DaS.
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GUYS

is it worth getting the untrue white ring as a grape part of the sizzurp squad
thing is i dont want yoel lying dead around my shrine
does his corpse ever go away or no
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>>335665251
Small difference makes a big deal in duels for me, especially using a slow weapon like I do. If I tank through even one attack that lets me use my weapon skill it is worth the effort to know how it works. Sure it's not like DaS1 where a giantdad could walk up to a scimitar user point blank and start sweeping with an UGS without worrying about being stunlocked, but the fact is if you're wearing havels it will help when you use a slower weapon, the longer your attack animations the more poise will benefit you. This doesn't just work on weapon arts, but I wanted to use the weapon art attack because it specifically increases poise and some idiots like >>335665486 think that means "hyper armor" when clearly I got knocked out of the attack when I was naked.


Speaking of havels, thanks for that, seems like a weird spot to go back to if you're already at archdragon peak.
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>>335643297
>You're not cool for invading, in fact, you're a cunt for doing so
that's the point of invading you idiot
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>>335665987
yeah, but poise doesn't affect regular attacks as far as i know, and stomp/perserverance gives you enough "poise" or whatever to get your first attack off no matter what.

and i think that maybe you were supposed to get the hint because his soul gives you havel's ring, but that's a bit of a stretch. i wonder how anybody found archdragon peak without knowing about it.
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>>335665987
You've just fucked up your timing, idiot.
Poise is supposed to work at all times, not just for half a second during a weapon art animation.
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>>335666210
nigga nigga
proven wrong
nigga nigga
eat my dong
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>>335665581
Be SL 29 or lower, and have a +2 or lower weapon.
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>>335666426
BUT I'M ALREADY 37 FUCK
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>having a +4 raw flamberge doin 281 damage
It's not even fair guys
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>>335666426
Not him, but what's a good build for it?
Be my senpai.
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>>335666536
I would think tanking, cause the rewards are a great sword, great shield, and Wolf ring. That's what I'm doing at least.

>>335666484
The sponge wolves drop the sword glass on rare occasions, if that's what you're looking for
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>>335666195
>because his soul gives you havel's ring, but that's a bit of a stretch

Shit that makes sense. I never pay much attention to that kind of stuff, but that connection is true.

>i wonder how anybody found archdragon peak without knowing about it.
"when in rome"

>>335666210
>poise has to be like DaS1, therefore poise in DaS3 does nothing

Ok brudda.
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