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What games feature somewhat realistic guns.
Receiver has some pretty in depth gun mechanics. It's pretty fun to learn the ins and outs of each of the game's weapons.
Stalker.
Even better after some mods.
7.62 high calibre blue sun mod
Arma II
>>335626187
Arma/DayZ
Squad
Project Reality
>>335626878
Do not listen to this man. Stalker has shit gunplay that's far from realistic.
>>335626187
Anyone bro with a Glock 20? Nice! I love mine.
>>335627052
Do not listen to this man, he has no idea what he is talking about or is blatantly lying.
>>335626187
Actually I just realised you're trolling with that fucking Pony backplate. Fuck you. You bring shame to Glock 20 owners.
Also, my backplate is better.
>>335627052
>confirmed for playing on rookie difficulty
>>335626187
What is the reason that so many love the Glock?
>>335627479
they're plebs with no taste
>>335627636
but human Rainbow Dash is the best pony
>>335627361
>>335627142
>>335626187
>Glock 20
Meme caliber for a meme gun
>>335627884
>Implying I don't love my CZ more.
>>335627479
cheap, simple, effective, and durable.
>>335627636
no way
>>335627142
>>335627361
>he bought new grips, magazine release and slide release, backplate, and WML.
>he didn't bother to buy decent sights
Vickers battle sights are serviceable and only cost $100 for a front and rear. Step it up senpai
>>335627402
Not him
>playing stalker on on hardest difficulty
>sneak up behind unarmored opponent
>point blank him with a shotgun
>he turns around and kills me in one shot
Nah, stalker is pure shit.
Fuck off /k/
>>335626187
Glock has to be the ugliest handgun I've seen
>>335628583
Who the fuck are you even, some sort of autistic 4chan vigilante?
Nobody gives a fuck and those tiny details in images are shit only you would be able to spot. Fuck off already and stay banned
Saging and moving on
>>335628738
ur the ugliest handgun i've ever seen
Should I get a trijikon rmr or new gpu?
D.U.S.T looks pretty good
>>335628927
get a razor
>>335628927
Honestly I think red dots are the future for handguns but we're not there yet.
Just buy more ammo and vidya fuck upgrades right now.
/k/ went nuts over Ebony and Ivory from DMC once. Apparently they were meticulously customized, down to the ejection ports.
Someone probably has the screencap.
>>335627263
He's right though STALKER's ballistics are heavily exaggerated and the guns all have ejection ports on the wrong side. AMK Arsenal makes it better though.
>>335629093
his legs aren't even that hairy
Also, reciever.
>>335628008
my negro
>>335627052
but STALKER's gunplay IS somewhat realistic.
You got bullet physics that include travel time, bullet drop, ricocheting, etc. There's also a bunch of different weapons with different ammo-types, all with different ballistic characteristics (armor-penetration, wounding, flatness...). You can also slap accessories like scopes and suppressors on rifles, and weapons wear down with use, resulting misfires and stat drops. You also start bleeding from hits.
Red Orchestra 2
>>335626187
Here comes Barneyfag
>>335628927
That looks like some real tacky plastic shit there
>>335628654
Fuck off /v/
>>335630567
>doesn't calculate wind compensation
>doesn't model barrel heating accurately
babbyshit cod tier
>>335630650
not in his pony pic database, it might take a while
>>335630567
forget it, his complains are about superficial realism and not realism at a gameplay mechanic level.
>leave k
>come to v
> click on this thread
> forget I'm on v
Y'all might be boring fucks but at least you're not pushing shit games just because they have your board's fetish. Fucking /tg/ and /a/
Anyway, check out Reciever. Basically a tech demo. Some extra gun mods for it. Good basis for a horror game, I still say.
>>335630650
He already posted here, mod deleted all his posts though. >>335627636
>>335626187
all of these suck. dont die on my yet thread. I know theres some good gun games out there.
>>335630567
>somewhat realistic
>somewhat
I mean, a bunch of games are "somewhat" realistic compared to something like Counter-Strike, but Stalker still has a bunch of derpy shit like exaggerated conefire + expanding reticle, and the damage modeling is whack even on Master.
It has MORE mechanics than a simple hitscan model but I argue whether it actually makes the handling more realistic.
CSGO has some of the realest feeling gunplay I've felt in a while. The recoil is heavy, and it's incredibly rewarding to control it. The accuracy of weapons was calculated through hours of testing real world weapons, and I can confirm after flying to the Ukraine to fire a real life fully automatic AK-47 and deagle, both with extended 30 round assault clips, that they work EXACTLY like it does in CS. The devs down at valve really put their all into the realism of gun combat, and it really shows!
If you love real gun combat, and you're not playing CS, you're literally a living oxymoron, ya moron!
>>335631331
Vanilla STALKER is pretty shit. But there are mods that remove the conefire and add realistic damage values.
>>335626187
red orchestra 2
the barrel on your MG literally overheats and needs changing. I've done that with a smoldering hot MG barrel in real life and it was pretty much the same, thought it took a little bit longer
>>335627479
durable, reliable, easy to modify and fix, pretty accurate, all for an affordable price. I'll be honest, my 19's not my favorite handgun to shoot, but it's the one I'd stake my life on.
>>335632250
Leave it mang.
Thread is starting to turn legit.
>>335626187
>somewhat realistic
my favorite interactive gun museum game years back was Raven Shield. the guns were reasonably realistic, nothing too crazy though.
>dat m14
QUICK
CLAIM YOUR RAIFU BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE GETS HER
>>335632736
>M14
>not the OG
>>335630567
But you're wrong. STALKER's shooting mechanics are entirely arcade. They're good arcade mechanics, with the ability for weapons to deteriorate over time, to be upgraded, can be fitted with various attachments, etc. It doesn't account for:
>windage
>moisture
>ambient temperature
>weapon temperature
>weapon and sight ranging/zeroing
>ammunition grain (eg subsonic) + the associated noise differences
>addition weapon temp caused by suppressors
>etc
>>335632065
Ballistics are somewhat realistic but nothing else is taken into account in RO2.
>>335632843
what game does atleast 5 of those things you mentioned
>>335633000
Arma 3.
>>335633091
This
>>335628542
How are yougood enough to sneak up on an armored enemy but not know shit about the guns?
>>335627052
>I played on rookie and have no idea what I'm talking about
STALKER on Master difficulty is actually a brilliant simulation of gunplay - you get hit once or twice, and you're going down. The guns are accurate and devastating, where the way to win battles is planning and use of cover.
>>335626953
Only true answer
Probably by a black gentleman
>>335632843
You're forgetting that there are many things that don't translate well to a good game.
Being true-to-life is all well and good but you need to think about how it works and can be programmed as a game - accurately modeling every element of ballistics would be so much of a drain on an average processor that you'd never see more than 1 or 2 enemies on screen at once, due to the sheer amount of physics calculations going on simultaneously. This is why weapons engineering companies have banks of supercomputers to fully model their weapons in simulations.
What you actually want is a game that FEELS like it accurately models gunplay, not something that actually does it. True-to-life and feels-like-true-to-life are not actually the same thing.
ARMA 3 and STALKER (on Master) are your best bets. You'll not get closer than that for gunplay in the next ten years, I reckon.
>>335632736
I really hope I can save up enough money to buy either a FAL or G3 clone later this fall.
Arma 3
>>335637446
Do it, I love muh Poorfag Target Rifle.
>>335637679
PTR91? I think that's what I'll likely go with.
>>335630341
Bronies make weeboos look normal...almost
>>335637818
Yep, enjoy blowing through ~10bux minimum every time you reload though. I wish 7.62 NATO was a bit cheaper.
>>335638115
do they cycle .308 okay? that's a little bit cheaper isn't it?
>>335632736
Claimed
stalker
>handgun a shit
>rifle a best
seriously was there even any reason to waste valuable weight limit by carrying a pistol + ammo aside for a silenced one for the rare chance you have an opportunity to pull off a sneaky kill?
>>335638115
>People shitting on STALKER
>Implying 7.62 rounds aren't fucking gold dust until late-game
There's your realism, /k/
>>335638507
Yes, not being a shit taste faggot who doesn't like handguns
>guns
Are you guys compensating or something? You don't need any more than a single basic handgun for self defense.
>>335638189
Honestly they are about the same price. You can get cheap, stinky, steel cased Russian .308 for about $.45 or so a round, and it shots fine I suppose, I've yet to have problems with it.
With the way the G3 design treats the casing, you may as well use steel actually, the ejection beats the shit out of brass, so you won't be able to use it for much after.
>>335638507
Unless you have a suppressor for a rifle, which are either hard to come by or just unavailable, a silenced pistol is a good, relatively lightweight way of making stealth kills unless you get in their face with the knife.Unless in CoP you get the power armour mod for sprinting, and can take a silenced AR, assault shotgun, RPG, gauss and LMG like fucking rambo
>>335638734
What's wrong with those fingers
>>335638734
>HK slap
fuck it, I'm buying a PTR. $150 out of every paycheck will do me by mid summer
>>335638916
I put on like 50 lbs this last half year.
I work at a place with unlimited free food, and stopped giving a fuck, which was a big mistake.
>>335627361
>owning a glock
nice plasic toy you faggot
>>335638734
>Gopro
>He's looking up to aim
>You can't even see if he hits anything
Nice shooting, it'd be even nicer to see what the fuck he was shooting at, or even if he hit it
>>335639140
A plastic toy that can, mind, kill people
>>335639241
inb4 glocknade meme
>>335639241
including its owner
>>335633091
Arma doesnt do realistic guns.
>>335639359
like clockwork
>>335639415
He's not wrong you know
>>335633091
It does windage, but none of the other things you mentioned.
Who here /westgermanp226/?
>>335626758
I sincerely wish they would make a more full version of that game, the guns were extremely fun to use and even more satisfying once you got proficient at manipulating them
>>335639531
except that notion is completely out of date. It only affected gen 1 glocks and it was only if you used reloads that were too hot.
I'd hardly call it a game but this is prettyfunto shoot with, at least until the novelty of having to manually use every aspect of a gun wears off.
>>335639157
I was just trying to get the reload in the shot, the target was 100m away, so you wouldn't be able to see if I hit it anyway.
I just shoot to shoot really.
>>335639650
He has to spend all his time working on the fucking furry piece of shit physics based action game.
>his country hasn't banned guns yet
How backwards can you be?
>>335632736
Claimed my raifu
>>335639779
>his country has banned guns
How backwards can you be?
>>335639752
You still haven't shown any evidence of you actually hitting anything. Even over that distance you'd still see dust spray and the bullethole.
>>335639705
>It only affected gen 1 glocks
It was gen 2 and it was only the 22/23 because of the unsupported chambers you nerd
>>335640030
the fuck does it matter?
>>335639779
Sorry kid, it's more progressive this way.
>>335640057
either way, it hasn't relevant in years. gen3/4's are fine. glocks aren't the best, but there's nothing wrong with them.
>>335640030
He's trying to show the gun, not epic 420 shooting skillz
>>335640182
>either way, it hasn't relevant in years
You got your facts wrong. There is no "either way" get learnt, nigger
>>335639779
>tfw Canada has barely any shootings but we still have like 6 guns to every 10 people
Guns are great, our southern brothers just have a gang problem. If anything black people should be banned.
>>335640030
Why the fuck do you care?
The gun itself is far more interesting you fag
>>335640103
Because you could be incredibly shit and trying to show off on 4chan of all places.
>Guns are extremely accurate to real life but lack something that makes it seem boring or unfun to use (Arma)
>Guns are inaccurate to real life but its still fun to use it
Why.
>>335640526
>can't conceal carry or legally defend himself with a firearm if threatened
>literally can go to jail if someone transports firearms in a vehicle and isn't going directly from the range back to his house
>literally can go to jail if transports firearms in a vehicle without certain papers
>>335640380
The nitty gritty facts aren't relevant in this case because no one's buying used second gen glocks.
>>335640613
Because it's completely out of the realm of possibility of someone having a ptr and a scope isn't capable of hitting something at 100 yards?
Pipe down kid, you're not trying to impress anyone
>i-it could be airshit if all we know!!1
>>335640721
Great question. I'm literally obsessed with guns and I fucking hate ARMA.
>>335630567
the mirrored AK triggers the fuck out of me.
i literally ragequit the first time i played stalker after i got an AK.
>>335628927
Are you takin a shit with your gun?
>>335640897
>The nitty gritty facts aren't relevant in this case because no one's buying used second gen glocks.
There's a bunch of people who like Gen 2's. They go for sale all the time. As I previously stated before, get learnt nigger.
>>335641113
Nah he's just dressed like a black guy
>>335641052
For me its all the menu navigating you have to do in order to interact with shit.
>>335640721
it's because the higher the accuracy, the more evident the disconnect between action and consequence becomes.
aiming requires arm movement with the mouse. reloading is a button press. Doing a gorillion fucking operations with buttom presses feels superfluous.
also, realistic handling also disconnects you since that handling is so intrinsically defined by physical contact that you can't reproduce. VR games might mitigate this but it's still not fun to pretend-touch something. Something weightless cannot give you a sense of agency over a real object.
>>335633091
>>335639626
>>335639370
It does many more of those with mods.
Ammunition grain/noise + ambient temp + ranging and a few other things are all in the more popular realism mods like ACE.
>>335641162
>.40
no wonder they're cheap.
>>335641075
fucking baby
>>335641052
I feel like half the reason the gunplay in Arma is unfun is because of how enemies react to getting hit. They just rock in place a little and thats it.
>>335641593
noguns detected
>>335640030
Nigga I was just answering the other anon's questions while trying to keep an interesting thread bumped with the few images I had on Dropbox.
Here, congrats, you got me so buttmad I went out and pulled this from my trunk. The big pockmarks are from .308, and the little ones are from .556. Both @100m, believe it or not, whatever. I'm too old for this autism.
>>335641630
Yeah, shooting people in it just feels and looks like shit
>>335641872
>couldn't hit the target
Yeah, get fucked you faggot
Anyone here buy shit off armslist? Shit in my area seems to be kind of marked up. I'm trying to find a decent SKS, but the fuds in my area are charging too much.
Maybe I should just buy online.
>>335642207
check slickguns out every week or so. some places get them in and sell them for pretty cheap sometimes. as for armslist, the listed prices are a lot of times just their ideal price, try offering them down.
>>335627361
Way to show how much of a newfag you are
Go back to tumblr and stay there you piece of shit
>>335642207
buy online if you're buying new, have it shipped to a bro tier fun store, pay transfer fee (better be cheap like less than $25), pass background czech, walk out with gun, load it in your car, and enjoy the sweet sweet sound of freedom.
keep an eye on atlantic if you're into slav shit.
also just ask /k/
>>335626337
This game was better than it had any right to be. And this is coming from somebody who normally HATES JRPGs.
>>335628008
Sexy ass pistol hermano.
>every game with large amounts of customization for guns has shit gunplay
>every game with good gunplay has shit customization
Why god, why
>>335627361
You should really buy some new sights before you buy a gay backplate then try to talk shit with it.
Why are glockfags so fucking gay?
>>335641113
I carry everywhere, anon
>>335642494
Alot of people forget that Luke didn't even defeat Vader, and that Vader died saving Luke.
>>335643079
I dunno anon, I'd say Luke kicked his ass pretty fuckin hard after he brought his sister up mid-fight.
>>335643079
wrong thread butt smoker
this is the "/v/ thinks they know guns" the thread
>>335626758
Came to post this.
>Modern game devs will never put this much love into a VR gungame.
It hurts /v/. It really does.
What's the cheapest I could get a 1911 for?
>>335643221
No this is "/pol/ gun nuts shitting up the board with barely vidya related threads" thread.
>>335628927
i don't know about putting an optic on a subcompact, but i haven't used a pistol with optics either. if you're gonna buy a gpu just wait a couple months if you can.
>>335643392
I got this ATI for a little under $400, and after a little bit of easy polishing the feeding ramp, I never have any jamming issues. that grip is aftermarket btw, it comes with a standard wooden checkered grip.
honestly any of the filipino-made 1911's will do you good. Rock Island Armory is another good affordable one.
>>335627052
Stop bullying the Post-apocalyptic survivalist wannabees.
>>335643392
For new the cheapest I've seen is a Rock Island Armory 1911 around $500. (CA fag here)
They're alright, but I'd honestly just spend more for a better manufacture.
>>335643392
prolly 400-600 for a cheap one. my buddy has two 1911s, one by SIG that cost 1k+ and one of the cheap RIA 1911s, and he's had tons of issues with the SIG and i think no issues at all with the RIA.
>>335639023
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/411550830/ptr_inc_ptr91_gi_308_18_special_edition_wgreen_furniture
>>335627052
This guy is a dumb nigger that needs to go back to the cotton fields.
>>335644606
seems like a good price. do they have the paddle mag releases like the new ones at Atlantic have?
>>335627361
I mean, I love Berserk and all but
>glock
>>335638507
The high caliber ones, especially that one unique, are very good for when you don't have time to reload and there's a bloodsucker coming for your ass.
>>335626187
Fuck off barneyfag
>>335627142
Glock 22
> Am cop
>>335645048
I don't know but I have a ptr 91 gi and it does not, so I would assume no
>>335636453
>Stalker
>feels-like-true-to-life
Could you BE any more nogunz?
Stalker is a great game but ya'll faggots gotta get off its dick.
>>335646934
What took you so long? Usually you only wait one or two posts after you post the OP.
Guns bore me.
Shooting em is cool but ehhhh.
Dudes that get all bonered up over talking about guns is honestly kind of funny and borderline pathetic.
>>335643882
I paid $900 for this one as my first handgun. I really like it even if I don't get many chances to use it.
>>335640721
Why is Keanu Reeves so based?
Besides that little "drowned kid" incident I can't really find anything bad about him.
>>335648204
you sound boring
>>335632590
>game has a suppressed desert eagle
made me chuckle
>>335647904
He didn't post this one.
>>335648204
t. boring basement dweller
>>335648204
Propelling pieces of lead thousands of feet with explosions
>boring
>>335643271
There are already many VR tech demos that are a shitload more involved than Receiver was. There's already lots of interest in it, it's only a matter of time.
>>335648850
>not using a suppresed RPG and tactical deagle
>>335648204
>people like something I don't
Holy shit, call the cops.
>>335648204
No different from any other hobby.
I like em. So I talk about em. That's how hobbies work. Hobbies I'm not into seem boring too, but I'm not so autistic that I can't understand other people have other interests.
>>335646934
Dude what the fuck
>>335627884
The nine-millimeter Nineteen Eleven...............almost as beautiful! Eddie Murphy would be proud
>>335626187
Metal Gear Solid 4.
>>335648521
>$900 for something that you can't even use legally and if you do, it's to murder someone
nigga, if I wanted to kill someone, I'd do it without paying out the ass for it
>>335649926
Is this using just pack of powder instead of a metal cartridge?
>>335650250
Who says I can't use it?
>>335650250
What makes you think he can't use it legally?
>>335650294
caseless ammo.
>>335650294
https://youtu.be/E_didDgUjn0
>>335627479
Because it's perfect as a service/duty pistol. It will work every fucking time. You can shoot it so much the goddamn guide rod melts away and it'll just keep on going without giving a single solitary fuck.
There are pistols I think are prettier, better made, more accurate, but there is none that I feel is actually superior. You can beat it in one area but it's still going to be the best.
Then they took this perfect pistol and made it in nearly every caliber known to man, in every size reasonable. It's pretty much the ONLY accessible 10mm pistol, it was pretty much the first decent .45 doublestack, etc.
>>335650294
Not quite. The "casing" is made of propellant. There is no casing or packaging it's just a solid block of propellant stuck to the bullet. It's not powder it's some sort of solid shit that does the same thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caseless_ammunition
Well there EVER be a game like this?
>realistic shooting mechanics, sound effects and physics based gameplay
>reactive targets like steel plates, paint buckets, tannerite and paper that all react differently
>large amount of licensed renders of real guns
>3D viewer for every gun
>competitive modes like competition shooting, cqb practice and long range marksmanship
>maybe VR
>>335650407
>>335650415
Alright. Tell me how and where you're going to use it without the words "Firing Range" or "Gun Show"
>>335651349
I walk 10 minutes in any direction outside the city limits and shoot it
there
>>335651349
>thinks $900 is expensive
>thinks target shooting isn't a legitimate use
I thought you were baiting at first but then I remembered where we are.
>>335650250
>$900 is a lot
poorfag
>>335651349
how about the words "public land" and "out in the woods"?
have you forgotten how big the US is? most of it isn't densely populated.
>>335651349
>tell me where you're going to use your car
>without the words "road" and "track"
>tell me where you're going to use your shoes
>without the word "ground"
Anyway, innawoods you goddamn retard. I don't even hunt but do you think that takes place at a shooting range?
>>335651579
he's probably just some dildo who lives in Europe or California in a big city
>>335651349
What do you mean use it? For what? Blindly firing in the air? Kneecapping your neighbors?
What games let you fire a Pak40?
>>335651538
>>335651579
So you spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on something that you have to leave human population for just to make it worthwhile. 'kay. Says volumes of your kind. I believe that people should own guns, sure but then there's faggots like you all who just want them to show off and boast about your imaginary dick sizes. Fuck off to your containment board.
>>335651867
None unfortunately.
AT guns in general don't get enough love in vidya.
>>335651969
Damn shame.
>>335651936
Right? I too hate hiking gear, boats, fishing poles, airplanes, and everything else that requires leaving city limits at any point.
You goddamn retard just admit you're a liberal pussy and quit crying bitch tears.
>>335651867
>>335651969
They're in plenty of RTS games, but if you're talking about an action game, no.
>>335651936
ebin
>>335651936
that's a lot of assumptions you're making there champ.
>>335652176
>Comparing a gun to practical equipment
you're really that delusional, aren't you?
>>335652271
But a gun is practical equipment. It can be used for a great variety of ways. Like hunting. Or protecting yourself. Or deterring violent monkeys from attacking your property. Or deposing a violent dictatorship. Or disarming a volatile situation by firing a warning shot in the air. It's a fucking tool. You're the one who determines how it works.
>>335651936
>So you spend hundreds and thousands of dollars
What? Do you think the average american has a stockpile of machine guns? There are rifles and pistols you can buy for under $200.
>>335652271
>thinking guns aren't practical for defense
you're european or californian, aren't you?
>>335652271
>practical equipment
>things used solely for enjoyment or work
literally the exact same as guns, except guns can also be used for self defense.
Hiking gear is not practical. Boats are not practical. Fishing poles are not practical. Boats are not practical. Airplanes are not practical. (don't whine that some people use those for their jobs, even more use guns)
Your arguments are dumb, stop posting.
@335651936
(you
>>335652495
anon, what are you doing.?
>>335652186
>, but if you're talking about an action game, no.
Unfortunate.
What game lets me evaporate dune coons with an apache at the taxpayer's expense?
>>335631575
>csgo having real gunplay
>if not tap-firing, bullets LITERALLY leave the barrel at a 35 degree angle
Heres a (you) now fug off
Any opinions on a H&k USP 9mm Compact? I'm looking to get a good quality pistol to carry and this is what I'm looking at right now.
>>335649926
HNNNNG
>>335652814
>H&k
If you don't mind overpaying, they're good quality.
>>335652814
Dumb and gimmicky like pretty much everything HK wants to sell you.
>inferior capacity
>costs too much
>pretty meh in every way
>>335631575
>CSGO has some of the realest feeling gunplay I've felt in a while
>>335637475
This is beautiful
>>335652459
>boats aren't practical
>Fishing poles aren't practical
>airplanes aren't practical
the argument of a gun-toting neanderthal, everyone. Please clap slowly as he might be too retarded to understand!
>>335652814
>I'm looking to get a good quality pistol to carry
usps are very chunky. I might buy a P2000SK as my next gun but I bought a new gun the other day
>>335651867
Hope Romero is putting that into Blackroom if hes playing with one
>>335653036
They aren't. Either you own them for pleasure, not practical reasons, or you own them for work. Which doesn't count for shit since even more people use guns in their line of work.
>>335653140
You can't possibly be this retarded.
So tell me, how are goods transported across the world? A gun, right?
How do people travel within their respective countries or across the globe? Guns, yeah?
>>335653036
Where do you live that you need a fishing pole every day?
>>335653083
Romero's hair looks better than that anon.
>>335653318
Where do you live that you need a gun everyday?
>>335653379
The same place that requires a fishing pole 24/7
>>335653434
Thanks for proving my point.
>>335632736
>You will never own one of these magnificent things
>>335653560
You had none. You deflected to something no one was talking about just to save face. Explain how the things you mentioned are practical yet a gun suddenly isn't.
>>335653659
Looks gimmicky as fuck to be honest.I still want one.
>>335653673
You just proved my point idiot. A gun isn't needed everywhere 24/7, stop trying to backpedal
>>335653673
because muh children assault weapons you don't NEED that
>>335653308
Yet again, work related doesn't count or you have to concede the overwhelming practicality of guns. Those goods are being transported by workers, just like millions of guns are used by soldiers and police.
>>335653308
You're retarded, we're talking about owning said items. Unless you bought a boat because you have a need to regularly transport large amounts of goods across the ocean there's no practical application for the average person.
>>335653790
Nothing on the planet is needed 24/7 besides oxygen. Seek help.
>>335653794
>They weren't shot
Boring anon
>>335653949
beckpedal harder, newfag.
>>335653308
Goods are transported by large cargo ships or cargo planes that are owned by companies and not individuals. Private small boats or small planes like a fucking Cessna are absolutely irrelevant are nothing but recreation tools. Or you use them in your line of work. It actually does make sense if you stop to think about it, but it's obviously something you're incapable of.
>>335654041
This debate was over posts ago. Go back to bed, grandpa
>>335654096
The debate never happened, just a lot of you whining about nothing.
>>335654004
sorry anon, responsible gun owners don't go around shooting animals and schools, go back to /b/.
>>335654004
It's a cute kitten and a dog. What kind of fag doesn't like animals?
>>335654152
GUNS FRIGHTEN ME SO THEY SHOULDN'T EXIST
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335626187
World of Guns
>>335653379
Detroit
MGS4 has some top tier gun porn
Gotta say that game.
>>335651230
You want a shooting range simulator?
>>335649528
don't ever try to take that thing apart beyond a field strip
>>335654271shhh he's trying to be edgy, pretend to act mortified
>>335654909
I never have. Was going to replace the mag release button because mine sticks like a motherfucker but that seems pretty easy to get to.
>>335648781
that's totally fake by the way
https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/3ax6pu/keanu_reeves/
>>335626187
>its one of "those" threads again
Alright
>>335632736
best raifu claimed
>>335654909
why's that, friend?
>>335655487
DELETE THIS
GALIL IS A GOOD GIRL
>>335655428
I can't figure out what happened in that first clip why did that shell discharge in his hand?
>>335655643
watch the far side of the table
>>335655610
Galil a shit
>>335655643
It wasn't in his hand anon.
![52-lb-1-8-brown-paper-barrel-sack-500-bundle[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9yK4ckZ.jpg "52-lb-1-8-brown-paper-barrel-sack-500-bundle[1]")
>>335655537
because you'll be bringing it to your local gun shop in one of these, and they'll charge you more than the thing is worth to put it back together (if they can find someone who can do it in the first place)ask me how i know
>>335655691
I keep re watching it but I'm missing something.
>>335655643
One rolls off the table and goes off on the floor, either something happened to get an extremely (un)lucky hit on the shell's primer, or it just had a shitty primer that went off due to shock.
>>335655720
FIGHT ME FAGGOT
>>335655817
A shell rolls off the table. Please consider visiting an eye doctor.
>>335656187
>>335656261
Never post these again
>>335651867
Darkest Hour/Red Orchestra 1, as fixed emplacements.
Good luck with the sub-1000 player base though.
>>335628008
Oh boy, here's my CZ.
>please excuse the fingerprints
>>335656378
>sub-1000 player base
more like sub-50
>>335656382
son of a fuck, i hate captcha
>>335651867
men of war assault squad is more of an RTS/tactics kinda game but you can take personal control of units and fire them manually, selecting the ammo and where to shoot at, etc.
50% of the playerbase is russian though
>>335656378
You lying faggots and you're 'people still play ro1' bullshit.
Got me to pick it up, I'll admit I missed the boat when it was popular. There's NOONE fucking playing it.
Like 5 russian guys I found once, that was IT.
>>335652814
It's CIA approved
>>335652814
Go .45 or go home.
>>335655428
>girl shooting gun
>turns and fucking points it at guy/girl on camera
FUCK this makes me mad and I haven't even touched a gun. I would fucking go apeshit on her if I was behind the camera, what the fuck.
>>335658709
Took you long enough god damn
>>335643394
>Thread about guns
>Blames /pol/
Keep looking under your bed
>>335658760
>not looking through the archive
I was there at the very beginning, but my posts kept getting deleted.
>>335658432
don't blame her, blame the person who didn't teach her how to properly handle a firearm.
Anyone got a webm of gunslinger girl where she looks down the barrel and her handler slaps the shit out of her.
I feel like an /ak/ fag might have that little gem.
>>335652686
baited hard u nigger
>>335649817
>browning high power 1911
>not making a difference between 1911 and browning hi power
Are you retarded?
>>335660790
nice, the four hour later meme king supreme bait.
>>335627263
>>335627402
>>335630567
>>335635738
>>335644932
You all are frankly retarded if you think STALKER has great gunplay.
I've played well over 100 hours on SoC and CoP, beaten the game on Master difficulty. The gunplay is mediocre at best.
First of all, lets start with the functional shit.
Bullets often travel too slow velocity wise, and drop far quicker than they would in real life. Unless you've got ever present gravity anomaly doing this that no one speaks of, it's kinda shit.
Then you've got bullets that exit the barrel at impossible angles, the spread on shotguns in laughably wide compared to what they'd actually be like, even in the case of the sawed off.
As far as visual and sound elements, the guns are mirrored and the models do not look good, CS Source looks superior for the same shit 4 years before it's release. And the sounds are mediocre.
I know this is /v/ and a lot of you haven't shot actual guns or have just had the "Stalker has good gunplay" meme infect every synapse that you can't accept the fact it actually might not be that good, but if you compared STALKER a lot of other realistic or semi-realistic weapons, you'd see the gunplay isn't all it's hyped to be.
Especially comparing it to something like fucking ARMA, Squad, Project Reality, or ffs, even BF2-4 have it beat (more on the visual and sound than on mechanics for different reasons, but overall still beat.)
STALKER is a great game, a unique atmospheric wonder that saddens me that more people aren't familiar with it, but unless you're modding the living shit out of it, STALKER's gunplay objectively is mediocre at best.
>>335631575
>constantly racking slide or charging weapons when switching.
>Hip fire unless you have a scope.
...I could go on, but come on nigga?
>>335651969
I think a couple maps in Battlefield 1942, or the expansions. I remember one leading to a castle in particular.
>>335626187
Insurgency is a nice game...so is Verdun.
>>335654681
>You want a shooting range simulator?
Exactly.
7.62 High Calibre.
>>335630567
It's somewhat realistic, about as realistic as Battlefield 2-4, which also have travel time, bullet drop, penetration, ect.
Weapons can have scopes and accessories.
And battlefield at least doesn't have any mirrored guns and actually uses the actual names, they sound way better, more responsive, the spread on weapons is more realistic, there's more variety of said weapons.
Battlefield's gunplay ultimately might edge out STALKER all things considered.
But I'd say for OP, just go with ARMA and be fucking done with it.
>>335651230
>>335654681
You could probably set one up pretty easily in ARMA 2/3 with a mod or two.
>>335661776
america's army 2 had an actual rifle range at basic training level.
>>335661668
>7.62 High Calibre.
is this game good? It looks like a mess.
>>335631575
This has to be bait
I play csgo a lot and I like it but it is by far one of the least realistic shooters out there. Competitive shooters can't be realistic, if they were then aiming would be easy as shit. The core of go's gun play is that the guns are unrealistically inaccurate and gamey so you have to learn a skill. Real life guns are accurate as hell dude, it's just the recoil and lack of experience that you need to work past.
>>335631575
>Realistic
The Glock in that fucking game doesn't even have a mag release.
Apart from one of the NOT VALVE skinmakers putting one on in a weapon skin.
>>335661980
it's a hot slavic mess but it's pretty fun, blue sun mod adds a bunch of weapons and shit if you like JA2 1.13 style games
>>335632736better than the VAL but in no vidya
It goes kind of wacky later in the game but Silent Storm has good (turn based) gunplay
>>335662362
9x39 is truly the best cartridge. we need to start producing it in the states and someone needs to start building some sweet 9x39 guns. that yedinorog cunt never delivered, but he says he still working on it.
>>335662362
how is it better than VSS?
>>335636453
>accurately modeling every element of ballistics would be so much of a drain on an average processor that you'd never see more than 1 or 2 enemies on screen at once, due to the sheer amount of physics calculations going on simultaneously
If done server side with a fairly powerful server rack with calculations being sent back to the client it could theoretically work. Now translating that over a network with as little latency as possible from a distance is the next issue.
Someone could sit down and hash this out, but I got an exam in the morning so for now it's something nice to think about.
>>335662653
not him but it's pretty much a modernized VAL that can be shot without the suppressor.
>>335662643
as far as i know they are good only for sub sound speeds to make them silent, and probably US has some of those for specialized arms
>>335662824
VAL can be shot without suppressor
and that thing looks like AKSU with 9mm
>>335662653
Not him but the quick-detachable silencer is a big plus, as is the folding handguard grip. The VSS/ASVAL are extremely front heavy due to the integrated suppressor and it's horrible to hold.
>>335662874
They're good for giving things a fucking wallop.
That a 250gr bullet.
>>335662967
yeah, if you want to remove the entire barrel, sure.
>>335663032
>shooting someone in front of their kids
Have some delicacy, man.
>>335662967
No it can't.
You may actually be confusing the SR-3M with the VAL
>>335663129
my bad, i mistake val with vintorez
>>335641630
These are people carrying maybe 30 kg of equipment (40+ for roles like MG gunner, explosive specialist, AT specialist etc) and probably weigh 76+ kg themselves. No, they won't fly off when you shoot them dead.
>>335663032
asuperheroisborn.webm
>>335663032
What's the story with this?
>>335663178
so they took aksu, attached 9mm barrel and handgrip, easily detachable silencer and called it new gun
this is sad how everything post AK in russia looks like AK
>>335663306
it was a Brazilian gang assassination, you can actually see the shooter look relieved that the man puts the daughter down. most likely an initiation
>>335663435
and people dare say old wars weren't humane
5.56 round does that for you
>>335662362
>super space-age Special Forces gun used by very high-value agents that is probably very expensive
>AMMO IS STILL STEEL CASE
fucking russians
>>335663408
just like how the majority of the weapons in the US are AR clones?
>>335663551
you think a full sized rifle round to the lung would kill you better? maybe, but there would still be a lot of choking on your own blood.
also, what the fuck are the janitors doing?
>>335663551
I get the feeling this wasn't a rifle round, this was probably just the unfortunate victim of street crime and that it was a pistol round of some sort.
IIRC the only things I know about this one was Brazil and he got hit in the lungs, although you could have probably guessed that one.
>>335663552
it's adopted by FSB, they are pretty much FBI+NSA
so yeah, not exactly special forces
GRU(bascially spies) is what you'd call that
>>335627142
No but I have a 1911 in 9x19.
>Inb4 EOkek
>>335631575
t.someone who has never fired a gun
>>335663435
>>335663675
Look, all I wanted to point out, was that realistically,shooting someone isn't going to look like much fun for the shooter one way or another, and that to ask for a realistic shooter (ARMA) and complain about how it's not very fun to shoot people sort of seemed like someone was begging for a nice dose of reality.
>>335663408
No, the AKSU earned the nickname "Bitch" because it's unreliable. They wouldn't base their new rifles on a flawed design. The SR-3M is based on the ASVAL, it's literally a version that you can quickly switch to be used in a close quarters environment.
>>335663552
russian ammo will last a lot longer in that spam can than typicial american made ammo will in similar conditions. also, there's literally nothing wrong with steel cased ammunition if the firearm was designed to use it, and there's really nothing wrong with it in american weapons either.
>>335663552
Ha! Is like space race.
US develop million-dollar pen that writes in space.Russia used pencilsand completely fucked up their ventilation systems with graphite shavings as a result
>>335663675
Yes, it will do it quicker
did you see what happens to a boar shot from 306?
they die of shock
it doesnt make small hole ans stays small inside
it makes small whole and makes ragu out of everything inside - faster bleeding,pain shock - lost consciousness
5.56 is desiagned to leave wounded on battlefield for easier war
>>335663551
Except 5.56 is designed to create a clean wound. Depending on where it impacts literally any bullet has the potential to be lethal.
>>335663985
you're wrong, and you can't use the performance of hunting ammunition and compare it to the performance of FMJ. the reason we switched to 5.56 was because it was lighter, and shoot and move is king.
>>335663985
forgot some numbers there but you can guess which caliber i mean at what sentence
>>335664065
>5.56 is designed to create a clean wound
You mean fragment and tumble, creating multiple wound channels, right?
>>335664112
>performance of hunting ammunition
in russia they have to put less powder in them so they are not that strong
>>335664253
yeah but you're not from russia if you're talking about 30-06, and even russia knows what soft points are.
>>335664179
small wound channels - it's like wounding person with hundred needles from inside
at least when you shoot from 7.62 it leaves one huge wound
>>335652724
Too fucking cool.
>>335664179
Yeah, clean wound.
>>335664336
Exactly, 5.56 is the opposite of clean, it's designed to absolutely FUCK UP body cavities, especially ones full of organs.
>>335664324
just so you know they sell any kind of hunting rifle here withing law
306 bolts are cheap and popular, they even produce this caliber here now
i've seen how 350kg boar jumps 50cm up from shot of this bullet and just falls dead
they are not even that heavy bullets, with less powder than those you get in US
>>335664605
well, russia switched from 7.62 to 5.45 for similar reasons, the rounds weigh less so you can carry more, and they have more reliable expansion/tumbling/fragmenting instead of just pinholing through someone. keep in mind that militaries use FMJ, which doesn't do crazy shit like some of the examples from >>335664469
>>335664782
it doesn't matter who switched to what - my original point is that war is more brutal now than it was in 10-15th c. or even ww1
but some people tend to claim it is somehow better now
>>335664497
>I don't know anything
The more damaging the bullet, the greater the wound channel size. Bigger wound channels = greater tissue and organ damage. A small wound channel with small fragmentation is comparably preferable to suffer from rather than a large wound channel that causes a large cavity and big exit wound, which would cause more bleeding, trauma, pain, etc.
>>335665072
i would say that war wa most brutal in WW1 and WW2, maybe WW2 was a bit worse with how involved the civilians got what with the bombings. war has gotten more efficient if anything, less deaths, more medicine, etc.
>>335626337
This game looks awesome. How come I never heard of it?
>>335665296
120gr>62gr
basic math, 5.56 has much higher chance of going crazy inside the wound, yes even the proper ones that shouldn't
>>335665072
>ww1
Enjoy your fucking gas and chemical weapons, cavalry charges, tanks that kill their crew with toxic fumes, trench warfare & the awful conditions that ensue, lack of any efficient body armour, no man's land charges and miles of barbed wire.
>10th-15th century
Post medieval warfare is somehow more humane than modern warfare, with all it's treaties and laws that govern how war should be fought, over brutal close combat with crude melee weapons?
You are a colossal fucking moron.
>>335665784
10th - 15th century also had cavalry charges, just thought I'd point that out
>>335665876
yeah, but there were less machine guns
How cheap is it to buy an FAL?
>>335665784
battles ended at 10% loses/wounded before ww1
now it's kill everyone warfare
and yes, wounds were shallow most people died of infection/lack of care
>>335626337
good game. good comical characters. good story
>>335663821
>1911 in 9x19.
That's a thing?
prolly 800+
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ds-arms-fal-sa58-rifle-21-premium-threaded-barrel-detail.html?Itemid=0
>>335637492
>42 extra mags
how are you even moving?
>>335665928
Still though, Musket lines against a cavalry charge.
>>335665876
>10th - 15th century also had cavalry charges,
As far as I remember, there were no Vickers machine guns in this period, IE the invention which killed the concept of mounted cavalry.
>>335666079
>now it's kill everyone warfare
literal what
>>335666710
weren't muskets developed in like the 1600s or so? i know gunpowder weapons were developed pretty early but they were shit, and i don't think the concept of muskets and pike cought on until much later.
>>335661259
That matches my experiences with the games and their fans.
>>335639779
>His country has banned guns
Good goyim
Gunfag threads on /v/ are always so comfy
>you will never hold freedom in your hands
What's it like? Do you like collecting them? Target practice? Protection?
>>335668513
Fun
I would if I had money
Yes
Theoretically, but I doubt that I'd be able to pull out my mosin, load it, and wield it indoors if someone broke down my door
Hopefully the shock value of being confronted by a man with a WWII Soviet rifle would help me
>>335668513
little bit of all three.
feels great
>>335668513
I like shooting because it's fun. Getting my first conceal carry gun tomorrow
>>335668513
>What's it like?
Fantastic.
> Do you like collecting them? Target practice? Protection?
Yes to all 3.
>>335668653
I fucking love the design of the Steyr.
Me being a kiwi especially liking the AUSTEYR but I still prefer the L1A1 because it has more of a punch to it.
Shooting a gun accurately is a lot harder then I thought. Video games lied to me
>>335668782
yeah, being an american i have no military experience with them but i always liked them in video games, so i bought one. it's a great rifle.
>>335665784
>ww1 was 100% trenches meme
Please do some research before posting, you clearly know dick about shit
>>335668782
What the fuck is an AUSTEYR? Is that like the Austrian version of the STEYR?
>>335669212
No, the other "AUS" country. It's the Australian version of the Steyr currently used by the Australia and New Zealand military forces
>>335669212
exactly, the F88 austeyr.
they changed to a 1:7 barrel and added a bayonet lug, because they're hard.
>>335643263
>this is as close as we'll ever get to a finished version of Innawoods
>>335669321
>>335669212
maybe not exactly, because i thought you said australian, lol
>>335668513
It doesn't actually feel like too much, just holding it. It's just cool materials, you can feel the roughness of most grips, and heavier than you'd expect if you haven't handled guns.
The real fun starts when you actually start manipulating it, at least for me. Actually loading up the magazine (which for first time shooters, might be a bit harder getting a full magazine loaded, especially the last 2 or 3 rounds) gives you a new perspective.
Actually racking the slide back, using the stop to keep it back, sliding the magazine, and brushing down the slide stop and feeling the slide spring forward gives a small rush. Depending on the gun, this is where you take off the safety, and are given one more final click before the weapon is hot.
Again, for first time shooters, the gun might seem surprisingly robust in how you manipulate it. First time I started shooting, it always seemed like everything needed a bit more strength than I thought. I sometimes thought something was wrong because I needed to put more elbow grease in there, and I loved guns always, so handling one for the first time, I was super ultra careful and conservative about it, always keeping it pointed downrange, and worried I'd accidentally somehow set it off and kill myself or others like a retard.
Anyway, you pull the trigger, you can feel it travel and then it fires.
It's loud, bright, and it's going to make you jump the first time, it'll surprise you, or at least, that's my experience. But it's a complete and total rush. 2nd shot, a little less jump, the aim is a bit better on that target only 10m away, by the time I'd shot off the last round in the magazine, I knew I was hooked and I'd be buying a gun and guns were going to be a long time passion in my life.
Whatever you feel about guns, I'd highly suggest at least taking a day to go to the range once and try out some guns and see for yourself. I think the fear around them is because people fear what they don't understand.
>>335640014
>that scope
Is that...tape? Shit looks like fucking packing tape.
>>335669212
>>335669301
>>335669321
>>335669392
Who knew the Australians actually knew how to make good guns?
>>335669490
well, it's an austrian gun. you know the germans always make good stuff.
i wonder if austrians dislike being labeled as germans.
>>335669490
Who knew the Australians actually had the decency to share that good gun with their rivals across the ditch? Must have been payback for the RWC.>tfw New Zealander and not sure how to acquire a Steyr
>>335669490
Except it's made my Austrians. And I can tell you after using one for 4.5 years it's not that good.
>>335669729
>Except it's made my Austrians
? ? ?
Did you mean Australia
>>335669729
the AUG is fine, if you used one in the service you need to take your experiences with a grain of salt because it was probably beat to shit with worn out parts.
>>335669849
I mean Austrians. Made my Austrians, used by Australians and Kiwis
>>335641461
Pretty sure OP said what game, not what game with mods.
>>335639370
>Arma doesnt do realistic guns.
Compared to what? ARMA has some of the most realistic ballistic systems and weapons in games period, even before you mod it like crazy.
What games are you thinking of that have in mind? VBS?
>>335640721
ARMA is shit because the community is shit and the game runs like shit. Well, the community isn't shit but the server admins tend to be completely fucking autistic and insufferable. You basically have to play on private servers but it's hard to meet people to play on private servers without playing on public ones. Especially now that the Arma thread on /vg/ is dead.
>>335663137
It's starting to become a pretty common thing to kill kids of gang members now. Soon just killing people in front of kids will be the good old days.
>>335670861
But why
>>335631575
Fuck off.
>>335670378
ARMA has a problem where the actual hardcore sim aspects of it pretty much kill off it having a significant player base.
ARMA caters to milsim groups and the like because those are the people who buy it because those are the people interested in it. You don't buy ARMA as a game you just want to get to shooting 10,000 people and just have non-stop brainless multiplayer action, people go to COD, CS, and Battlefield for that.
ARMA pretty much is too realistic for it's own good, but it's got a big loyal fanbase that is adamant about those very same qualities.
Hell, there was a lot of strife and conflict in the fanbase about ARMA 3 doing psudofuture warfare bullshit instead of sticking with modern conflicts and warfare. This also would explain why the most popular mods for ARMA 3 are things like RHS which just pull ARMA from 2030 or whatever back down to 2010-2015 era warfare.
ARMA 3 has public pubs where you can just get some deathmatch or king of the hill and the like, but that's never been a core thing it's driven behind like with BF or COD.
ARMA almost requires you to find groups that do co-op missions or rarely some PvP to get the full experience out of it, and it requires a lot more teamwork and cooperation that most gamers would never even consider.
Take a look at BF and the average game there. It's 64 people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The objectives give a rough organization, but it's mostly to draw people into conflict areas for a team deathmatch with vehicles.
There's little actual teamwork or cooperation or organization, despite how much they try for it.
ARMA is pretty much the opposite, it's for that 2-3% of people who play BF and think "This could be a lot better if it was A) More realistic B)More strategic and tactical and C) Requires actual fucking cooperation.
And so, ARMA caters with that milsim for people who actually want simulator realism and not AAA 'realism' that satisfies the masses.
>>335655428
First one is faked. I could recognize that stock After Effect muzzleflash from kilometers away.
Second is a retard redneck.
Third is a retard redneck.
Fourth is a retard redneck.
Fifth is a retard redneck.
Etc.
>>335671630
>>335637446
Get out of here, Matt.
>>335641162
wow if i was a burger all i'd do is blow my paycheck on guns. officially fucking jelly
Resident Evil 4,5 Zero, and the Remake of 1
One of the reasons i'm gay for this series
>>335631575
If you love real gun combat, and you're playing CS, you're just full pleb with disgusting taste. You haven't propably shoot or even held a real gun in your hands, because CS is nearly farthest you can go from "realistic".
>>335632736
Forever and ever.
>>335666590
Why the fuck do you think he has this HUGE fucking backpack?
How bad Insurgency at gun handling?
>>335631050
>forget it, his complains are about superficial realism and not realism at a gameplay mechanic level.
Yeah, as usual the /v/irgins can't even distinguish between the two points, as seen in the later replies.
>>335661259
>I've played well over 100 hours on SoC and CoP, beaten the game on Master difficulty. The gunplay is mediocre at best.
Good for you.
I have put THOUSANDS of hours to each of the three games, with and without mods, and I say that even in vanilla, the gunplay is GOOD, and well thought out.
All that "B-but it's not like IRL!!!" shit does not matter, because it's designed and balanced for the gameplay. You seldom see more than couple hundred meters at once in the vanilla games, so to add feel of long-distance fighting + actual differences between guns, the ballistics are exaggerated a great deal.
The visual assets have nothing to do with the gameplay mechanical level realism people are trying to speak of. Just about every shooter used to mirror the guns just for the heck of it. STALKER at least has the benefit of having been in development since fucking 2000, and being a pure DX8 game until the very end of the dev-cycle.
The sounds are not any worse than in your typical shooter nowadays.
>using "objectively" in place of pure "subjective" matter
When will people learn?
>>335661259
Anyone would agree with your complaints, but I'd just like to interject that the exaggeration of bullet speed & drop-off is done for the player's benefit & for rule of cool. I enjoyed watching the bullets' trajectories rather than having them hit near-instantaneously, which is hardly different from hitscan, and also enjoyed having many opportunities to adjust aim for the extreme drop-offs.
In fact I've been looking for more games that give me such a sensation to no avail.
>>335674124
>All that "B-but it's not like IRL!!!" shit does not matter, because it's designed and balanced for the gameplay.
You seem to have misread the OP.
>>335674335
No, I did not.
>What games feature somewhat realistic guns.
STALKER does. Especially mechanically. Way more so than some CS and CoD games combined.
If you're only staring at graphics, as in getting stuck with the fact that the guns are mirrored, then you're just a hopeless case.
>>335674124
You have a classic case of fanboyism.
>>335632736
Yes yes I know I'm a Kochsucker.
>>335648204
video games bore me.
Playing em is cool but ehhhh.
Dudes that get all bonered up over talking about games is honestly kind of funny and borderline pathetic.
>>335628927
why are your pants down?
>>335633091
Arma 3 literally isn't a game, though, it's a simulation. Just because people play it like a game doesn't make it one.
>>335663032
You're an idiot, bullets create gore and gore is something that should be part of a realistic shooting game. There's nothing realistic about ARMA's deaths.
>b-b-b-but it's hard to watch and not fun
Speak for yourself faggot.
>>335663830
>hurrr you shouldn't expect a realistic shooter to realistically depict people being shot
God you're retarded
>>335677732
this is better than another gamergate SJW shitfest or another LOL thread
>>335676942
>you shouldn't expect a realistic shooter to realistically depict people being shot
You apparently didn't follow the conversation.
Some guy was complaining about ARMA 3 in that he wasn't getting enough of a positive feedback from when he would shoot people because they'd just have a small movement and fall over.
He was complaining it wasn't satisfying to kill people. ARMA is more of a simulation, and I was pointing out how that person's got a retarded expectation of a realistic shooter having drastic and unrealistic reactions from people being shot.
My point was you SHOULD expect a realistic shooter to realistically depict how people react when they're shot, which isn't necessarily fun or entertaining.
>>335674598
I know they're not the best, but the G36 series looks great. Like I just think it's a great looking gun.
>>335678210
You're implying shooting people in ARMA is realistic when it isn't. People are complaining that it isn't realistic. You just assume they want "hollywood" type of deaths when they say it looks like shit, which is a stupid assumption.
Trust me that many people would find it fun and entertaining if it depicted 100% true to life deaths.
>>335674124
>All that "B-but it's not like IRL!!!" shit does not matter, because it's designed and balanced for the gameplay.
DOOM was designed and balanced with gameplay in mind but I wouldn't say that it's got great gunplay, or at least, the sort of gunplay that really appeals to someone who likes guns.
I mean, TF2 is designed and balanced for gameplay, So fucking what. Those games don't deliver good 'gunplay'. By your standards, fucking Splatoon would probably qualify because it's balanced and designed for gameplay.
For really satisfying gunplay, which should go for a virtual recreation of real world weapons, it needs to have an intersection and encompass visual and audio fidelity, realistic projectile based ballistics and work with the quarks of those real world weapons.
The fact you admit you STALKER isn't particularly realistic and doesn't matter, proves that STALKER has some pretty faulty gunplay.
>>335674475
>STALKER does. Especially mechanically.
No, not really, because of the fucking bullets coming out at ass angles, exaggerated ballistics, ect.
It's not strictly visual, but that matters as well to sell the illusion as well as the audio. You might as well start suggesting DOOM or something if you're looking at gunplay as just mechanics separated completely from the IRL equivalent weapons, then you could practically suggest any FPS that's got good weapons balance.
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