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So, how are they?
hot garbage
>>335515373
dualies are shit-tier. the best weapons in this game are straight swords and the fucking havels shield.
ass
>>335515663
Estoc is better than SS.
Not bad if you've got decent stats.
They're not straight/thrusting sword
>>335515373
Ds across the board.
>closest thing to gold / dark silver tracer
>they fucking suck shit
>>335515663
warden's twinblades are goat though, straight swords are for shitters who are afraid to get into invade and get good at pvp and instead just sit around at bonfires with other shitters.
>>335516061
The tracers have unused models in the game.
>>335516182
it's confirmed on disc dlc.
>>335516101
Wardens Twinblades with a Luck build is pretty GOAT.
>>335516264
Bravo, From.
>>335516101
Is that why you got an estoc?
>>335515373
fun. Don't bother unless you're in it for the spinning/dancing.
>>335515373
>Damage split three ways
Probably not very good.
>>335515373
I want them to buff it, or change it. They're my favorite weapons. I love their moveset.
>>335516361
I have an estoc because your mom gave me one after I pushed her butthole in last night with my penis
>>335515760
free parries
>>335516101
yes
You'd think given their total damage number they'd be pretty good.
You'd be wrong.
Shit poise damage, shit damage output, not quick enough to be effective for multiple hits. I have rolled into crates that did more damage.
>>335515373
>boss weapon
>not garbage
Pick one and only one.
>>335516703
Yhorms Machete, Gundyrs Halberd, Dragonslayer Greataxe, Demon Greataxe
>>335516703
>>335516792
Farron Greatsword
>>335516792
>2016
>forgetting farron greatsword
>mfw
>>335516659
>untarget
>run at them
>9/10 times they panic parry
Free backstabs.
>>335515373
If you like to spin like a faggot and do sub par damage you'll love them
>>335516792
Which one of these has scaling that isn't complete garbage?
>>335516991
>muh scaling
you poor naive child
>>335517224
>gimmick attacks are worth shitty scaling
The only good twin swords are the sellsword ones, with the sharp gem and a dex build.
>>335516991
Yhorm's Machete gets A scaling in strength.
>>335516991
>>335517394
scaling doesn't mean anything on its own, the only important thing is AR and the hidden damage multiplier on the weapon itself
a lot of the S scaling weapons in this game (butcher knife, pontiff great scythe) are decent at best and don't deal a significant amount of damage
So are Blood Wardens Twin-blades the best dual-wield weapon?
>>335517631
If this was Dark Souls 2 it'd be a different story, but the scaling in this game is pretty severe.
>>335517778
They're great, but DON'T blood infuse them
>>335517631
AR?
>>335517631
What I don't understand is that Heavy basically takes off DEX scaling and buffs STR scaling a nice amount, while Sharp Scaling barely does shit in the opposite direction.
For example:
Dark Sword is C/D at +10
Heavy +10 is A/-
Sharp +10 is C/C.
Refined +10 is B/B
So why would I even CONSIDER Sharp when Refined is outright better
>>335518310
No I mean what is AR
>>335517978
should I infuse them with anything? I've been wanting to run a dualy for a while but felt underwhelmed by the lack of options and wasn't sure which would be best with which stats
>>335517903
you're really missing the point
having high scaling itself doesn't make a weapon do a lot of damage, having high AR makes a weapon do a lot of damage
high scaling does not imply high AR, they are totally separate
the BKGA has mediocre scaling but shits damage, for example
>>335518439
sharp or refined, I think refined is better if you go quality build. it still gets good bleed and you can use carthus rouge to double the amount
>nothing but refined builds SL100+
Nice.
>>335518401
Attack
Ratenig
For dex builds, the base damage decreases when you infused a sharp gem. Is it worth it?
>>335518851
Sounds like refined is the way to go
>>335518590
I wonder if I could get away withcrystal
>>335518851
If the bonus damage from scaling makes up for it, yes
>>335518391
Try using a Sharp Gem on an actual Dex weapon genius. The Dark Sword, with C scaling in strength, is clearly intended more for STR builds. Thus, using a Heavy Gem, which increases STR scaling, is much more beneficial.
I though Hollow infusion made weapons scale with Luck? Instead it just gives you +5 Luck if hollowed.
>>335518851
The base damage is usually reduced only by 10 points. The scaling jump will more than make up for that. If you're using a dex build, with a dex weapon, there's seriously no reason not to use a sharp gem.
>>335516792
nameless king, always has the best curved fucking sword with the best continuous spam . you shitfucking casuals. jesus have any of you even cleared the game.
>>335515373
Well they are not one of the half dozen viable pvp weapons if that is what you are asking.
If you are not doing a lot of pvp though who cares?
>>335519187
thanks, Ive been holding out on it.
>>335519229
What about Carthus Curved Greatsword?
>>335515373
Well they aren't Estoc or Dark Sword. So why bother using them?
>>335518851
Look at the numbers on the infusion screen. Regular might be 200+150 and sharp would be something like 180+200.
>>335519362
That weapon is pure sex.
>>335519169
It does both.
>>335519362
My bad, Im referring to the normal carthus curved sword.
>>335519229
Exile GS is better tbqafh
>tfw estoc and longsword have been your favorite weapon since des
>tfw everyone thinks im a shitter for using them in pvp in das3
feels moderately frustrating desu
>>335519624
what's fun about estoc? poking as the only move isn't fun
I don't really believe you
>>335519624
Dude Estoc has been the "that guy" weapon for all 3 games.
>>335519776
i love the mix of thrust/slash and the slash moves are always stylish as fuck. For some reason i love skinny ass swords like the rapier and estoc just from a visual standpoint too.
>>335516451
It's split in two ways twice. Each sword only does one type of split damage.
Still not great but not dumpster tier.
>>335515373
>People praise DS for it's aesthetics.
>These swords look like fucking shit.
>>335519624
>Love BSS and Estoc in DS
>Play DS2 with a straightsword
>Decide to try something different in DS3 and roll with a claymore
>At best it's decent but way too slow and doesn't have hyperarmour
At least I have my zweihander. The hyperarnour on that shit is godly and the moveset is still my favourite. The amount of l33t katana/estoc/DS shitters I killed outside of Pontiff's is insane, simply because they think they can stunlock me or that I have no tracking.
But there will never be a weapon in DS as satisfying as Kirkhammer. Or Ludwig's greatsword. Or Reiterpalasch.
>>335519942
>people say a game has a good aesthetic
>ONE weapon is not visually appealing to me
what was the point in this post you immeasurably gay cunt
>>335515663
>the best weapons in this game are straight swords
If your only moveset involves R1 and Circle, yes.
>when someone unsuccessfully tries to parry you and keeps trying it
>>335519776
I've personally liked it as a 'stuck in a hallway' weapon since some of the spears can hit a wall behind you and deflect attacks while the estoc/rapier can just attack without worrying about hitting the wall or objects behind you.
>Irithyll dungeon
>Jailers
>>335520018
Ive always been a huge fan of the claymore too but i agree with you it seems pretty trash in 3. Too slow and doesn't stagger enough or do enough damage to warrant it. Not tried out the zwei yet tho, greatswords seem to be fairly easy to parry in pvp particularly clay.
>>335520297
>Hide behind wall
>Equip bow
>Snipe to lure
>Fuck then up one at a time
>>335520160
And R2 if not using Dork Sword.
>>335519624
>tfw your favourite weapon class is Greataxes
>tfw they're fucking amazing but nobody seems to care because straightswords and Estocs are considered better
>>335520018
None of those weapons were even remotely close to being as satisfyingly heavy and weighty as the Greataxe from DaS1 IMO.
How's the Demon's Fist guys? Love the weapon art on this thing, I just want to know if it's worth dumping scales on
>>335520071
The point was to have an opinion. If that opinion upsets you theneven better.:^)
>>335520549
You get unlimited scales later on, so why the fuck not?
I feel like I can't find a weapon that really clicks with me in this game.
I'm not really sure why, because I was able to find some pretty cool weapons in all the other souls games.
Right now I'm using the wolf greatsword, and it's fine.
Anyone have a good luck bleed build? Want to try it out
>>335520509
Greataxes are something ive never actually tried, for whatever reason ive always just preferred swords and even maces in vidya.
>>335520706
I do?
How much better is a under 30% roll than a under 70%?
>>335515663
Good. I went 3 souls games using the short sword, and the thing was hot garbage in every single one but DS3.
Fucking katanas, fuck greatswords, and fuckagic spammers. Shit has been old since DeS.
>>335520850
There's some ashes that unlocks unlimited Chunks, Scales and Twinkling Titanite from the shrine maiden.
>>335520757
Anything with Hollow+Carthus Rouge and 40 LUK.
>>335520757
I'm using the hollow manikin claws at 35 luck then the rest in health and stamina.
Builds don't feel very complicated in this game because armour is so irrelevant.
Get some shit to scale your weapon, get a solid amount of hp and a comfortable amount of stamina. If you like magic or buffs grab some, congrats you're done.
>>335520919
WHAAT, I GOTTA LOOK THIS UP
>>335520906
Straight sword is the most boring weapon style in the entire series though
>>335520509
Except axes in DS1 are shit senpai. I am not bashing DS1, it's a fantastic game. It's just it's not as good as BB.BB > DS1 = DeS > DS3 > SotFS > Shit, fite me fags
>>335520337
>Get invaded by some purple fag in the Graves
>Katana, tries to rush me
>Parries my zwei once
>Parries my zwei twice
>Parries my zwei three time
>I catch him trying to attack me during swing and two-shot the little bitch
lol dexfags
>>335521008
It's in a secret area that you'd be amazed with yourself if you found it by yourself so be careful
>>335519624
>tfw fav weapon id DaS was Dark Knight Greatsword
>tfw fav weapon is Das 3 is Lothric Knight Sword
Knight swords have always looked fucking cool
Where the fuck is the PvP covenant?
I wanna respec, I wasted a bunch of points.
>>335520904
I-frames are a bit longer. You can have the same amount of i-frames with 70% and the ring so...
>>335521115
Cathedral, Rosaria's Covenant.
>>335521115
The PVP covenant is any of them, you just place your summoning sign at Pontiff Sulyvan. That's the honorabur duerr zone.
>not using the new meta
https://youtu.be/n09xmhsvIuU
>tfw you just want to do a glaive PvP build.
>tfw Champ Gundyr has both the good glaives locked up in his ass
>tfw you're not good enough at the game yet to kill dancer early
goddamnit, I just want to charge faggots down and make my fucking mound, I tried to summon for Dancer, but all the fuckheads are for Vordt so they get blown the fuck out and so do I. I'd still have to kill oceiros anyways and the fucker has the most phys reduc in the game.
>>335521047
Statwise, sure, but they had the best animations by far.
The one-handed R1 on the Greataxe is amazing.
Also, you're SUBJECTIVELY wrong!
>>335515373
Chinese tier knock-offs
Is vitality/armor completely trivial? I wanna do a smough playthrough but the amount of vitality I'd need to pump to get good rolls seems like a solid waste of points.
>>335520904
Actually sort of worse because you cover so much distance that you won't be able to immediately land a hit after rolling past an enemy. I was getting my shit wrecked by Champion Gundyr until I put on heavy armour, not because the extra defense did anything, but because I was already in range to land a hit after every roll.
>>335516264
I love this meme.
>>335521309
Don't worry, they'll be DLC :^)
>>335521287
Cheese her around the pillars if you're that desperate. After the forward slam you can just slip around the pillar and get a few easy hits.
>some guy edits the game to change a 0 to a 1
>poise suddenly starts working for players
>from literally broke the entire poise system for PC's with 1 integer
>it's not even turned on, that's why people can roll out of anything after 2 hits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EaoGYbK0fo
>just started NG+
>purple drank spirit invades
>full artorias build
>parry his ass evvry tiem
No wonder people dont use greatswords anymore
>>335521278
anyone who values their time black crystals out or gangs up on the turtler
Dancer swords are fun. For invasions. Stunlocking a new player for 10 straight second probably freaks them out.
I don't do MUH META 1V1 DUELS, especially right after release when hot cancer like estoc and greatshield builds are running around, so I don't know how they do there.
>>335516270
>fluke the fuck out of Dancer on NG, killed her in one go with a straight sword (first playthrough, fuck off)
>worried as fuck for NG+
>not only is she affected by Bleed, she can't keep up with my insane stamina management
>tear through her like a furious tornado of blades
These little shits are incredible.
>>335521526
I'm honestly just too dogshit to beat her, I'm making some cheeseball raw ASS bleed build to kill her currently, I just need to beat her so I can move to the next two bosses, but I refuse to do the hitbox garbage, this game is all about bosses, I'll summon for cheesy shit like this but I'm not gonna not fight hte fight. I've beat the game a few times at thsi point, I'm ok with summoning, it's not like I need to solo for myself anymore, there's just not really anyone specifically summoning for dancer
>>335521563
Poise is disabled on consoles as well I think.
Yes it's retarded, I can't tell if it was a last minute decision but it does mean things like the Wolf Ring, a covenant reward, literally do nothing.
>with 1 integer
*one bit.
>>335515663
>not rocking drang tambourines
>>335521309
>Drops from a useless NPC who accomplishes nothing and dies in 3 hits.
>>335515373
It's grammatically incorrect to start a sentence with "so"
>>335521593
>black crystals out
You realize you're penalized for that right?
>>335522009
That's my waifu you're talking about, ningen.
>>335521943
Drang twinspears are the real MVP dualwep.
>>335522076
That's not actually true, it was just a baseless rumor.
>>335521278
What about weapon arts that break shields?
>>335522076
literally a rumor started by randoms to piss people off
>>335521943
You mean maracas?
>>335516703
>mfw I tear shit up with hollow-slayers glorious 2h combos
See people shitting on it all the time but I wreck shit with it, little stamina consumption + quick combos, decent damage, and the lightest greatsword.
>Blue Sentinels and Darkmoons are THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING
>both are impossible to get summons for too because they require a sister covenant to even get summoned from, which nobody uses
Where's my fucking blue eye orb
>>335522242
They can just back away you know.
>>335521943
too bad their range is shit
>>335515663
What are you even supposed to do against somebody two handing havels greatshield?
It does decent damage, the attacks block at the same time, and it's a greatshield. Greatshields are pretty much impenetrable in DaS3.
>>335520549
fucking garbage cause you literally have to stand right next to them and no one stays close enough
>>335522327
They aren't the same thing, Darkmoons get an extra reward from Aldrich Faithful :^)
>>335522169
Then the white circle thing is just there for show?
>>335522367
In a 1v1 situation I can't think of anything else to kill someone turtling that hard except maybe toxic.
>>335522441
That's if you alt-f4 or disconnect.
>>335522441
it's for people who alt+f4 out of invasions
>>335522441
The Way of White circlet? That's to remove the penalty for disconnecting.
>>335515373
guys im at lvl 60 and still using butchers knife
give me some tips for strength weapons
Best shield for parry?
>>335522097
Sorry I backstabbed her.
>>335522327
>bringing a useless covenant back like the blue sentinels
If I wanted to wait 20 minutes per fight I'd go play demon souls.
>>335522580
Target
>>335522568
Butcher's Knife is pretty good honestly
>>335522580
Any weapon art shield combined with the Farron GS, so you can parry with a dagger when you parry with your shield.
>>335522580
sacred bloom desu
>>335521894
Like I said just keep a pillar between you and her and she'll pretty much just spin in place. Wait for the slam and run around and get a hit or two in. It'll probably take a long ass time though.
>>335521278
Not a single one of these shitters tried to kick?
>>335522972
kicking does fuck all
>>335521287
The good glaive is Glaive.
>>335519624
>get Dark Sword in DaS3 from the Dickwraith in the tower
>make it heavy because claymore is not that good anymore and I need a good STR weapon for my build
>use it all the game
>learn I'm a shitter for using it
>>335522508
>>335522367
Shield breaker weapon arts don't work on greatshields. They're too stronk.
Also, is there even any way to apply toxic besides the poop?
>>335522508
Or use the weapon that ignores shields like the Shotel
>>335521694
How good are they for PVE? Was thinking of switching my strength build over to a luck one
>>335522972
It's not like DaS2's guard break where it's a one-hit break, the kick is just an attack that does a lot of stamina damage
>>335523124
No. And you can only hold 10 poop. From what the fuck.
>>335523084
Nah, I don't give a shit about spin2win, though I will be picking that up. I want the charge from Gundyr, and the deeps from BKG, also the jump attack on BKG is dope as fuck
>>335522076
Did you know Prisoner's Chain increases your MM SL by 15?
>>335522516
>>335522521
>>335522553
"Beware of fickle use of this item if you intend to nurture relations"
Which then means? Is it just the nips fucking with us in translation?
Does anyone know how the Morion Blade quest shit works with Yuria and Orbeck?
I know you have to have Yuria in the shrine, invite Orbeck to the shrine and then she will ask you to kill him, however my issue is that I'm a sorcerer and I can't turn in scrolls anywhere else.
Can I get all the scrolls, buy all the spells, then kill him? Or does the quest line get cut off way before that? Can I turn in scrolls to Karla?
pls help
>>335521287
Dancer is literally one of the easiest bosses in the game. 4 kings were infinitely harder especially at low level soul runs for PvP
>>335522615
the thing is, Darkmoon's flavor text says that it's literally the original blue sentinels.
So i don't understand why they have to be separate covenants.
here's hoping the DLC adds covenants that aren't garbage
>>335515373
I use it to finish enemies in PVP. Although I prefer using the witch locks whip more
>>335522327
>can no longer summon more then two reds in an area where you've beaten the boss
>can no longer be invaded in an area you've beaten the boss, even if you use Dried Fingers
>can go hours solo and not be invaded, instant invasions if you decide to co-op
>no blue orb or even cracked blue orbs
>match-making is tied to weapon level. Not your current weapon level, not the highest weapon level in your inventory, the highest you've ever upgraded a weapon period
>bluebros reduced to meme-tier covenant
Friendly reminder that Soul Memory and no whole orbs are the only things DaS2 did wrong (in regards to multi-player).
>>335522060
nothing incorrect about it you stupid middle school fuck
>>335523065
>>335523223
It's like they tried their hardest to ruin PvP this time time around.
>>335516659
Lol you must be pretty shit at PvP if you think the Estoc is free parries. Haha oh fucking wow
>>335516101
>>335516101
Straight swords are just all around good weapons. Typically have a diverse skill set, and the better ones like the Dark Sword have good range and surprisingly high damage for their weight and low requirements. They aren't necessarily the best, but they have no real weaknesses, unlike every other option.
>>335519624
to tell you the truth they arent THAT good in pvp
no range no poise
>>335523124
So easily forgotten.
>>335523258
Glaive lets you R1+L2+R2 for a ton of damage.
>>335523223
They nerfed the shit out of useful items.
>Can only have FIVE Lloyds at a time
>Also nerfed the throw, so you're never going to hit anybody with them anyways, not that it would matter if you could
>>335523417
I saw someone use Witch's lock and it really made me want to try it out. The range on the weapon art is just insane
>>335523596
the main thing is the varied moveset that can fuck with people imo, it has decent enough range too. Also what GS is that? swings look pretty fast
>>335523491
>and no whole orbs
This was fine.
>>335523491
Well that and having a covenant for invading except nobody invades and instead just does PVP in an arena because that was a thing.
When that should have been a thing for the Company of champions or Dragonsluts
>>335516792
I hate Yhorm's machete. Yes, it has great range. Yes it hits like a fucking truck. But the moveset is so boring. Every fucking attack is just an overhead swing.
>>335522694
yeah but i want something new
>>335523881
DARK SOULS 2 PLAYERS EVERYBODY
>>335523740
Has anyone used this at all in eithe PVE or PVP?
>>335523743
alright, whats the trigger to send the faggot out, I gave him the bone, and he's already wept, and I'm in the cathedral rn cuz I'm trying to get siegwards quest even though it's obtuse as fuck and I prefer going to the catacombs first, I haven't fragged teh watchers yet. I'll definitely try it, I thought it was only used for the spin2win and I dont have the end yet to followup on that.
>>335523373
Get all the scrolls and then kill him. He will drop ashes to give to the shrinemaiden and she will sell his spells.
>>335523870
Astora greatsword
its pretty great
>>335523881
>no whole orbs was fine
>had to further inflate your soul memory either farming cracked orbs or farming souls to buy more cracked orbs to continue invading
>soul memory
>fine
>no whole orbs
>fine
How about the wolf knight greatsword?
>>335518535
Yeah, but part of scaling is based on the base AR I believe, and BKGA has huge base AR.
>>335523491
What do you mean match making is tied to level? Is this true? Wikis read -10 +20 for levels for most covenants.
>>335523865
The range on the weapon art is insane and they get fucked when they roll into you because close range is the best range for it to deal damage.
>>335523881
Why? Wastes invaders time, even if only warping. 3's way of giving orb to everyone is great. Buying orbs also fucks SM.
>>335524047
Inb4 somebody says the "You can never buy anything ever again" ring solves anything.
>>335523962
PVP, yes. PVE, not so much. Some people place Shotels on hot-swap to quickly open up turtlers.
Are there some good dex based weapons? I want to try playing a fast evasive character. My main fear is nonexistent poise damage and low damage per hit making every fight 95% dodging and 5% actually hitting shit and everything taking forever to kill.
Just finished the game with a BKGA focused Strength character and want something as different as possible.
Would try spells, but they seem to be shit right now.
>>335524002
Nice, its sitting in my bottomless box atm been looking to use a greatsword for a while but wasn't sure
>>335524052
ive been using it all game and its working great for me. the weapon art is also pretty functional
>>335524156
Also its a great weapon to punish turtling faggots
post Covenant ideas
>"Black Sentinels"
>get a "Black eye orb" (or something better named because there's already a black eye orb)
>Invade hosts who already have an invader and have two or more ally phantoms summoned
>Invade as a black phantom that is friendly with the other invader
>>335523851
>everyone can use Estus and it's way too fast to punish if they have ANY distance
>Lloyd's is useless
Thanks From
Really need to look into decent straight swords. Got a longsword and lothric, but barely even skimmed the refining system.
Anyone got a tl;dr for a quality build?
>>335524242
its an ultra greatsword
it lacks a bit of damage from normal attacks
but some of the moves it has make up for the lack of damage on the normal attacks
>>335524002
Is that the not-Loyce Greatsword? Is that even in DaS3?
>>335524361
Broadsword and Dark Sword are great.
>>335524283
so basically just warrior of sunlight invaders reskinned with a unique orb
>>335524052
The weapon arts are easy to hit and pretty powerful, but its slow and hard to catch people in a follow up.
I find it works better as a "chip away" weapon
>>335524283
You're describing the Warriors of Sunlight.
>>335524327
Doesn't even matter if they weren't. If you actually manage to hit somebody, they can just run away from you forever because everyone has a gorilion points of stamina and everything barely uses any.
Fighting against pure sorcerer characters is suffering because even with no points in stamina, you will never catch them if they want to just run away.
>>335524481
no its not loyce greatsword
its quite long
>the coolest weapons can't be enchanted, making hybrid magic builds useless
lame
>>335521287
How does anyone have trouble with Dancer? Are they all facing her at really low levels with no health?
She's just a stronger version of Mergo's Wet Nurse. She lethargically lumbers around, swinging her swords around at basically nothing. I literally beat her on my first encounter doing nothing but rolling attacks with the Astor Greatsword, dodging everything without even really trying.
>>335524230
Carthus Curved Sword is fucking fantastic, it's got a great moveset, a strong WA, long range, low stam usage and huge deeps, farm it from the skeleniggers by the catacomb Bonfire, it's so good i'm worried I won't be able to make another dex build without using it. My only complaint is that the one handed r1 is kinda shit
>>335521119
>>335520904
How abusable are the i-frames on the <30% roll while wearing the Carthus Bloodring?
>>335524590
I fought someone like this earlier, actually. Did nothing but turtle behind their shield or roll away, literally swung their MLGS a total of 5 times. I just ended up BCing out because holy FUCK I did not wanna deal with that shit.
>>335524698
The one handed r1 is still plenty fast compared to others.
>>335524675
She punishes defensive play. If you played BB you're more likely to fall into aggressive forward rolls etc which causes most of her shit to whiff. If you roll backwards you die.
>>335524698
>1h r1 is shit
Bummer. I'll give it a try though. Thinking of starting assassin for a quick estoc then going from there. Hard dex and maybe just enough int and faith for the pyro buffs, then the rest into stam and health.
>>335524675
I'm trying to kill her sub SL30, when she one shots you, yeah she's a little difficult, cunt
>>335524675
Dancer after your third cinder soul is completely trivial, but trying to her in the beginning of the game to get into lothric castle early is a pain in the dick.
>>335524838
>BB before I realize I should be dodging toward shit
>oh god I'm dying to everything this game is fucking hard as shit
>BB after I realize I should start dodging at enemies
>god this is the easiest souls game ever made
>>335524842
It's fine, I just think the 2h is stronger with a better range, besides, you should probably be using grass crest on a hard dex class anyways
>>335524698
i can attest to this
the thing is bonkers both in pve and pvp
>>335521563
>that's why people can roll out of anything after 2 hits
that's not what poise does
being able to roll out of anything after 2 hits is a balance decision
>>335522580
Cestus
>>335521309
>tfw no ciaran
>>335524858
Why would you want to do that though? Everything in the castle is a total pain in the ass.
Only reason I can see is to get the good spells and MLGS early, or something similiar.
>>335524283
Mound-makers walk fog walls and become white upon it.
Dorkmoons auto invade reds and rosaria's worlds.
Gravelord redux: invade away from host with no warning and kill enemies, whichever you kill returns a few moments later as a red version hostile to all other players. If they kill you all enemies you killed die.
>>335524002
I heard this is a good weapon for a hybrid faith based build since it gets S scaling from faith with lightning/blessed imbue.
Is that true?
Are there other good options? I fucking loved chucking lightning spears in DS2.
>>335525014
>>335523990
i need the ashes to turn into yuria for the morion blade, though
>>335524838
Why would you ever do anything other than roll to the sides?
>>335524675
She took me at least a dozen tries. Eventually I tried Carthus Rouge and managed to kill her.
No, I wasn't sequence breaking. I just got fucked by her second phase every time.
Oceiros, on the other hand, only took three tries.
>>335523373
give orbeck all of the scrolls and buy all of the spells, he will leave and you can find his body (and his ashes) in the grand archives. you can give them to yuria and she will give you the moron blade
>>335525009
It's a terrible balance decision. Fast weapons that didn't get retarded damage bonuses like the estoc get fucked over hard. Daggers are useless because of it.
It also makes punishing healing even more impossible, because even if you do catch them, surprise, you're not outdamaging the instant heal unless you brought the big dick weaponry.
>>335525127
yeah its true it has S scaling on faith
>>335515373
Unless they change the way defense works in the game, three-way split damage will always be garbage. Even if they gave it a base AR of 500
>>335525324
Yeah, but S scaling doesn't necessarily mean good damage. Would it be worth it for a min strength and dex build?
Anyone know?
>>335525276
have you confirmed this? it says on the wiki that it doesnt work that way
>>335525221
Well then you're either going to have to find a nice boss that you don't find hard with a good payout, or suffer through soul duping.
>>335524283
A 3v3 covenant. Or just some 6-way FFA covenant.
I don't know how it would work. But I enjoy fights like that far more than muh 1v1's. The rare occasion I invade a clusterfuck of phantoms is a treat.
Maybe a covenant that JUST invades worlds that already have an invader+phantoms?
>>335525302
Remove that system and sunlocking would become the only reality. Then you'll be here bitching about whatever low stamina weapon that hit you once kept you in a permanent state of taking damage.
>>335525415
i did it myself in my current save file
>>335525302
mfw fag tries to pop heals on me
>>335525407
you shouldnt care too much about the damage raiting on the status screen
plenty of its moves have %modifiers that make up for it
>>335525490
what were the conditions to get yuria to ask for his ashes?
>>335525473
Meant to reply to
>>335525153
>>335525302
Eh. I feel big weapons got shafted pretty bad. The best "dps" weapons are middle weapons like the Dark Sword. Big weapons don't stagger easily enough and don't have enough hyperpoise in general, and some don't even do much damage, to make up for their speed and high weight.
I'm worried they aren't going to balance things to make fast weapons good because they are fast, and heavy weapons actually strong but slow like they should have been.
>>335525390
It's actually just two-way split damage, each sword has a different element.
>it's another "faggot who tries to parry every single time we get close forces me to shoot him to death with the avelyn" episode
>it's another "estoc user forces me to switch to the washing pole and outrange them" episode
Will it ever get old?
>>335525530
the only condition is having yuria and orbeck at the same time, i think
>>335525523
Cool. Can't decide if I want to do a faith build now, or hold out hope they buff spells in the future, but I think that weapon will be my go to, at least for a while.
>>335516991
Dragonslayer Greataxe isn't great scaling but I still have 900 AR at full hp. Like 850 otherwise.
>>335525584
sounds like a pve only problem
who cares about that shit
>>335525479
The solution doesn't have to be black and white. Other games managed it.
This game has DeS tier healing speed, but without the DeS tier punishes.
>>335525628
You claim superiority by being more lame than your opponent? People are supposed to be impressed by this?
>>335521287
If you want to be a massive scrubreroll and kill Sword Master outside Firelink. Summon him outside the doors to Vordt and bring him to the Dancer boss room. Right when he dies to dancer (the death message) exit the game. Hit continue and you'll be outside the door to Dancer. Resummon Sword Master and now he's borderline invincible and will solo Dancer. This also works for Champ Gundyr in the exact same way. But you will have to kill Oceiros yourselfThat is unless its been patched already.
>>335525523
>invading the dungeon
you are a bad person
>>335525774
Is that webm supposed to impress?
>>335525840
its the best
>>335524002
>Not useing the Lothric great sword
It may not be the prettyest or the biggest but fuck me if it don't get shit done right
>build in lightning element
>you slap blessing weapon on it 2 shots most people
>>335525774
Jesus souls pvp always looks and plays like a hot pile of boring shit. Tried it in Demons and haven't touched it since.
