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THE NEW PATCH IS OUT
HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIEEET
>Intelligence now increases your spell damage by 1% per 16 Intelligence points.
WE LOL NOW BOYS
>>335495169
It's 6% per 100 INT, nothing to write home about
>it's a "we've put in new Agh's upgrades that affect not ultimate-related spells" episode
fuck this shit
I don't even know anymore
>that scan ability
>that orchid+crit stick
>Tome of Knowledge
>Hurricane Pike
>earth shaker's aghs
>Chen's Hand of God no longer fully heals his creeps
>that int change
What the shit
that sky aghs kek
>>335495070
>900 range AoE stun that gives you a 400% crit right after
Time to be a real piece of shit
Tried playing that game, got boring after 6 min. Is there a way to voice chat? Is there a way to move your charicter with your keyboard instead of mouse so I can be more precise?
You can buy exp now.
Thank god I dont play this piece of shit anymore.
I swear
Fucking Icefrog is a madman
There are NO OTHER devs out there with balls like this
Name a single other game that fundamentally changes as hard as Dota in each patch
>>335495728
>voice chat
yes
>Is there a way to move your character with your keyboard instead of mouse
no
>so I can be more precise?
lol
>>335495070
>Scan ability
Why?
>>335495070
With each new patch they get more and more LoL. I don't get it.
WHERE IS FUCKING PITLORD
GET FUCKED IMPETUS
What the flying fuck.
This can't be real right?
Right?Its fuckin real.
shit graphics
not playing this shit unless they rework their engine
I mean check HoN gameplay, its like x10 smoother
>abyssal now builds from vanguard
>blade mail deals damage before armor reductions
>counter helix is pure damage
Axe is going to be so fucking broken
At least he put the breaks on that piece of shit Outworld. Nice buffs to Wyvern and Pheonix as well. Maybe WW will finally be worth playing
Hey guys this is Icefraud and welcome to Jackass
>>335496186
S-sauce?
>scan ability
UAV ON LINE
>>335495793
league
I'm so fucking glad I quit this game over a year ago
Those patch notes would probably make me want to quit on the spot
>puck
>illusory orb speed increased by 1
uh, what? is this some kind of joke? why would this matter at all; I mean I know about the ">base armor increased by 1" meme but this gives like what, 3.5 extra units on the travel distance? what the actual fuck?
>>335496332
whos that semen demon on the left
>>335495070
Reinstalled 2bh.
I'll probably uninstall again after fucking around with some of the new items.
This game turns into LOL more and more each fucking patch
>>335495483
>it's the "who gives a fuck about aghs upgrades because the item is shit" episode
>>335496909
Winter Waifu
>>335497010
for (You), Anon
>>335497001
Sup faggot
>>335497297
Maybe I'll save the colored version when it doesnt fuck up her face
>>335497297
>there are people who would seriously prefer a dragon over a woman like Lina
>Ranged creep experience increased from 41 to 90
LICH CONFIRMED OP THIS PATCH
SACRIFICE ALL THE RANGED CREEPS
>those new items
the fucking madman
>>335497485
>pure maidenwurm vs fire slut
Its a no brainer
>reduced ward and tp cost
Stop it. Shitters won't get them, even if you make them free.
>>335497575
>can now stack his slows
>zombies are a none issue
>MORE FREE EXP AND LANE DOMINANCE
Feels good
Does this game have pit lord yet?
>>335497626
It really is. Fireslut all the way
>>335496186
Sauce please anon
>>335497842
no, fuck off
>no link
Fuck you fags
Invoker
Invoked Spells[?] cast point increased from 0 to 0.05
the fuck is this?
>>335496813
That extra 3.5 units can make all the difference
>>335497993
Its not real anon
Merely a jest
>>335498073
Cast point is basically the time it takes to cast a spell. Look at earthshaker, nigga takes shitload of time to cast fissure because he has a 0.7 cast point.
The invoker change is pretty insignificant since 0.05 is still almost instant, thought it might fuck people that use the shift-queue command to cast two spells at the same time.
>Bloodthorn
New item formed from Orchid, Crystalys, and a Recipe
LOL
>every league update tries to make it more like dota by adding crazy mechanics
>every dota update tries to make it more like league (cdr ability power etc)
WHAT'S HAPPENING
>arc warden
>can't use rapier on clone
>fml
>>335498404
Truestrike and crit on silenced target!
League is better.
>still no pitlord
So why did they remove the evasion cripple on Rod of Atos? That was a great change that made it so you didnt always have to go for MKB
> Hurricane Pike
Jesus christ.
>>335498520
>I can't sit in the fountain and send out my faggot clone to split push without consequences.
did we honestly wait 6 months for this watered down shit? valve can't port one fucking hero over if you give them half a year? jesus
>>335497353
>Mystic Flare Scepter duration increased from 2.4 to 12 seconds
>Mystic Flare Scepter cooldown increased from 20/10/0 to 20/10/5
lel
>>335498738
You know, 12 seconds is quite long.
>>335498738
>12 seconds with the same DoT
How about you boot up Demo mode and try this out, Anon?
>>335498692
they were too busy making shit no one ever asked for like the steam controller
>>335498738
12 seconds is a million years in Dota time, its going to make seiging and defending a breeze
>>335498882
>Mystic flare dps stays the same
>>335496196
nobody cares faggot
I honestly can't tell if i'm retarded because i can't find the patch notes or if i'm retarded because i fell for yet another of /v/'s disturbingly well-coordinated plays.
>>335498478
comon plz closest thing is creep block in lol, which i have no idea why they put it. their casual fuck players complain about it nonstop.
>>335499078
Here you go anon
>http://www.dota2.com/687
>Infest can now only target ancients with Level 2 and Level 3
get
fucked
>>335499078
http://www.dota2.com/687
You damn dingus.
Defend of the Autists
>>335499143
>>335499193
You know i was kinda hoping it was the latter!
>>335499078
dota2.com/687
How is that hard
>Tempest Double no longer replicates items that drop on death
It's finally over
>>335496813
somebody made a bot that spat out dota updates, and it predicted this exact puck change, so maybe it's memes.
>>335499175
He's a better carry now.
WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKIGN BANANAS?
IS IT A SECRET EVENT?
I haven't played Dota in years, recently installed it cuz I heard there are custom maps now. How come Dota 2 is LoL now?
Can anyone TL;DR the last updates n shit?
Dont mind me just brutalizing the jungle
>>335499540
S
W
SUN
WU
KONG
>>335499540
Sun Wukong back on track after 3 years.
>>335498073
It's just to fuck with scripters
>>335499623
it's LeL damage control
the game is mostly back to its normal icefrog self except for the retarded map changes
I wish he stopped touching it
>>335495070
give a link you fucking retarded abortion of an autist. what's the point of these threads without proof?
>>335495483
>Earthshaker can now buy Aghs to get another blink dagger
>Counter Helix pure damage
Also Oracle Aghs is literally nothing
>>335499905
find it yourself you leddit tumor
>>335499905
Hey you giant shitturd, it has only been posted three times in the last 20 posts.
Look yourself, faggot.
>>335499905
Literally first fucking result when you google "Dota 2"
Go fuck yourself
>>335496490 >>335497941
Mexican Lust
I wont bother until they patch the IQ of teammates in soloQQ
>Satyr Tormenter mana pool reduced from 600 to 400
where is pitlord? i never really played dota 2 but always wondered this
>>335498882
>>335498997
>>335499034
You mean it'll still deall the same 600/1000/1400 damage over 12 seconds?
>>335500547
DPS is the same
Meaning it deals like 900000000 damage over 12 seconds
Good luck chainstunning a hero that long, tho
>Incoming Morph-Beastmaster-Sky teams
>>335498520
Arc warden got severely fucked this Update
FUCKING FINALLY
NOW MANILA MAJOR WILL BE MORE FUN
>>335496186
Thickness like that is something that mythology is written about. It's something nations go to war over. That kind of thickness inspires stories about god and heaven. I need sauce anon. I can't go on living without it.
>>335501052
her name is Melissa Milan
when is it out?
>>335501242
usually its like days away after they put the blog entry, I say expect it this week
>>335501178
i thought it was maritza merguez.
>>335501242
This thursday or next week.
They might delay it though since there's qualifiers going on soon.
>>335495070
>we LoL and Starcraft now
wtf icetoad
>more aghs upgrades
I want off Mr. OSfrog 's crazy ride.
>>335495793
Smite.
Axe
Counter Helix damage type from Physical to Pure
AXE IS BACK!
>>335499680
hes gonna be OP as fuck with the new double hit item
>>335498404
>>335498560
I need to test the Bloodthorn with Meepo
>>335496568
Good one.
>>335501661
>Melee range increased
>Base HP and HP per str increased
>Blade Mail Buff
>Counter Helix Pure
Awww yeah!
link the blog update
My boy PA with his fresh meme items and daggers
>>335500547
>>335500702
before, one target in the AoE took 25/41.66/58.33dmg per interval (1 interval = 0.1s) which made a total damage of 600/1000/1400 over 24 intervals
now it's the same DPS (25/41.66/58.33) multiplied by 120 intervals, which makes:
lvl 1: 25*120=3000 dmg
lvl 2: 41.66*120=5000dmg
lvl 3: 58.33*120=7000dmg
tl;dr : same DPS, longer duration, but keep in mind that all these damage dealt are shared to each player in the AoE
>>335502062
>PA viable in the age a blademail will return damage regardless of bkb
lolok
is bloodthorn the most expensive item? jesus christ
>>335502062
>blademail goes through bkb
she's dead jim
>>335497461
Other anon here. I had nothing to do so I touched up a bit of the colors and lines.
Here you go friendo.
>Tome of Knowledge
Can anyone explain why this is useful to any hero? Is this an item for the cases when there's a teamfight coming up and you need 100xp to level up? Because I don't see its use beyond that.
So who is the ToXP actually for?
The support for better roam?
The offlaner for relatively easier laning?
The mid for quicker ganks?
The carry for greater 1v5 feeding?
>>335502520
It's cheap and it sounds like supports that are falling behind could use a little boost. Especially that it restocks every 10 minutes.
Phantom Assassin
Stifling Dagger now does a real physical attack for 60 + 25/40/55/70% of your attack damage. All attack effects work and behave as if your hero performed them.
The dagger is too OP now.
>>335502708
But wouldn't them getting gold for it also mean they're getting xp?
>>335502708
lol doubt any supports are getting this, if anything this will start a bunch of fights in pub games
>>335502520
just a catch up tool for under leveled team mates
>>335502520
Im saying supports who fall behind
>>335502569
probably any of those
It's just a super situational thing that you might want if you're getting fucked or think that the XP is really important
>>335502805
It scales now, so it is weaker early but strong late.
>>335499432
So were people just equipping their entire team with rapiers?
>>335495728
>Is there a way to move your charicter with your keyboard instead of mouse so I can be more precise?
HAHAHA wow
>>335495292
>be silencer
>get swole just by standing near fights
>>335503264
no , that was just an Arc Warden fix.
ArcWarden double got every item the original had including Divine Rapier, so you could send your double with a fucking rapier while sitting perfectly safe on base.
now you can't do that.
Arc Warden got raped this update. so Nerfed is not even funny to play him anymore
>>335503338
omg sudden flashback overload. What game is this from?
>>335495070
Icefrog was fired/died an early death. Calling it.
>both teams now have aerial recon
what is the purpose of this
>>335495070
>Gyro aghs causes him to launch a random autoattack every 6 seconds and mirana aghs causes her to starstorm every 8 seconds
When will the never-ending ride of meme aghs end? I thought it couldn't be topped after the tide aghs wave that he launches but i'm having doubts now
>>335503338
would be true if he DIDNT GET NERFED INTO THE FUCKING GROUND
never was to big into dota but seeing the items right now and fuck won't sven be beast mode with echo saber and hurricane pike combo?
>>335504020
gank protection
>More Agh gimmicks
Lame.
>>335504020
>Icefrog, our hugely popular game isn't hugely popular enough. Bring in more new players that will pay for hats and TI tickets
>How?
>New players never get wards so they get fucked by ganks, give them free smoke breaking vision of a nice sized area every couple of minutes
>Bunch of Dota threads when a new patch comes out
>Tons of replies with no shit posting
>Literally 0 League threads when a new patch comes out
>If one pops up, it gets shitposted into oblivion and 404'd
Welcome to /v/alve
These patches are fucking boring now its just constant arbitrary number buffs
>>335504343
It doesn't give vision you fucking mongoloid
>>335504380
because league is a shit game
>>335504624
but it still can be used for the same purpose that guy posted.
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=YF7LQxQ4zss&feature=live-chat-promo
FUCKING BANANA STUNS THROUGH BKB
Fucking finally.
>>335505015
banana?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75BGl0tNG4
>>335505302
Can find bananas hidden between trees. Drop banana peel on ground and enemies will slip around the map in a stunned state for a bit.
>>335504837
>every four and a half minutes you get 8 seconds of "HEY FAGGOT THERE'S A GUY THERE"
>does not tell you which way they're going, where exactly they are, if they're in rosh, what's their hp or mana
The only use this has is if you scan near your wards to see if they're smoke ganking you. Other than that you can use basic fucking sense to figure out the same shit.
>>335496332
>spell damage now scales with int
>dragon lance got an upgrade
>orchid gets a crit upgrade
The hero nerfs dont do anything when the he's even stronger with the general changes
>Macropyre distance increased from 900 to 1400
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS PATCH
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>335505705
why the fuck would you use it near your wards, you stupid fuck this is for when you want to ward, how many times people have died because they went to ward an area and oops surprise everybody was fucking there.
>>335506039
Because you can't fucking see smoke through regular vision wards and it doesn't say if there are 5 or 1 in the radius. It gives no indication of number of heroes, if it pings someone there it could be the 0/3/4 CM or the entire fucking team. And given that wards despawn faster you're going to get one use of that shit for one ward that is going to die 3 times over before you get the next use.
>rod of atos
>removed chance to True Strike on the target
How can you have a chance to true strike?
>>335504343
the scan will make games literally boring, due to the fact most pros sense when is a smoke happening and where its coming from already
>>335506630
I think it used to be 50% chance to truestrike, so half your attacks couldn't miss.
>>335504065
tides aghs is cool, but not worth 4200
>>335506302
you know how its easier to know when the enemy team has smoked? when you can't fucking see them in the map anywhere.
>>335506907
Yeah and scanning an area can give you a better idea of where they are and what fucking lane they're ganking.
>>335504065
>>335506836
Gyro already has a decent aghs, I think this is just more incentive
>not playing Michael Bay style gyro with refresher orb, missles everywhere
>>335505991
>30 seconds of macropyre with aghs.
Dragons will dragon
>playing a RTS without the good parts of the RTS plus the boring parts that were relegated to literally peons in most games (farming, etc)
>being forced to play with four other retards unless you have a group of friends to play with whenever you want to play
>playing a one hero (plus a few sub-units maybe) "RTS"
Play a real RTS, you micro-less faggots. Might as well be playing League of Legends or even Heroes of the Storm for all the skill it requires.
>>335507498
you don't farm or have items in Heroes of the Storm so it's the perfect game for you
>>335507498
Playin Dota 2 when you got friends is fun as fuck, anything higher than a 2v2 in a rts is pure cheese, and isnt all that fun
>>335507498
Name a single RTS that's fun to play 5v5 in
L I C H M I D
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C
H
M
I
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fuck off to /vg/
it was made specifically for you and all the other assfaggots
>>335507498
Hell just name a good RTS that came out recently...
I haven't played this game for like 2 months after putting like 8k hours into it and I was thinking of reinstalling soon
but jesus christ not even for a second now
>>335507656
Play a real RTS, faggot.
>>335507668
>>335507845
Don't depend on other people to carry you, faggots. ASSFAGGOTS is less of a name for the genre and more of a name for the fans of the garbage that is pumped out.
>Initial Bounty Rune no longer gives experience
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335508005
who said anything about letting people carry me?
I like my other 4 friends and I carry
>Reworked Ranked All Pick. Before the picking phase begins, there is a 15 second voting phase to ban heroes. Each player votes for a different hero. Afterwards, half of the heroes that were voted on will be randomly selected and banned.
Jesus Christ these fucking pussies
>>335508005
You seem like a fun guy
>>335508450
>RNG banning phase
HA HA HA
>>335504380
>an actual patch comes out for a good game
>discussion
>new skins and more bugs added to a baby game
>no discussion
Oh wow
>>335507067
>yeah better scan this ward INCASE THEY ARE FUCKING HERE
You're literally wasting a scan on specualtion
>>335504380
it's because DOTA patches actually try to add shit and only happen once in a blue moon.
league patches add like 2 or 3 things and happen every other week.
>local russian uses scan to his own advantage
>click here to find out how
Soloque never again
>>335495070
Post this moba trash on reddit
>>335503470
You can still do the memepush build
>aquila, midas, bots, necro 3, manta, refresher, any 2 active items
>>335508450
>Ever playing All Pick
Random draft all day err day
>>335509083
he's so nerfed in lane, and can't do the midas abuse that no, you can't really do that anymore
maybe if he can copy the XP tome he might be useful but I bet they'll add an exception
>no one even saw the Viper changes.
Do you not understand?
Its no longer an orb effect
AND NOTHING WAS THE SAME
>>335509180
>copy xp tomb
oh god...
>>335509180
>double can't use Midas
Since when?
>>335509480
>Tempest Double ability/item cooldowns now persist on the unit
>>335509480
Cool down persists
so you cant use midas as much
>>335496813
It's a Reddit joke.
>>335509480
Nevermind, I can't read, you can still double it every other ult I suppose
>All those new items
>Scan
>Heroes getting fucked and others getting swole
What the fuck is going on? Did Icefrog finally give up?
>Initial Bounty Rune no longer gives experience
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>335509773
maybe retarded randoms I play with wont jump into a 4v1 to secure it anymore
>Octarine core nerf
Bruh why
>>335496196
My nigga
So how hard are pubs gonna fight over those Tomes of Knowledge if there's only 1 stocked for the entire team every time
>>335510445
so retarded al the chemist players will stop buying it
>>335510836
But infinite acid spray and chem rage!
>>335510836
So what is the best alch build currently?
I found medalleon, Sb to be effective, then attack speed and basher to be great
>>335495169
Wait, is this serious?
Okay, I am officially done playing Dota.
I've never said that before. Usually when I get tired of a meta like a month before the next patch I stop playing. But I won't return. I didn't give a shit about all the int scaling they've been doing with all the int meme items but this is just too much
TFW no Kunkka buffs. he'll forever be useless outside of his ult's buff
>>335512135
>800 dmg nukes does 848 dmg if you have 100 int
its not that bad, actually I have no idea why they included it
>>335512135
You're not thinking logically
>>335512135
>I've never said that before.
You can now slip couriers with bananas
I really think Icefrog has died and that the developers are just trying to keep things afloat.
>>335512135
>ONLY THE CARRY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SCALE
Magic scaling items and a paltry scaling with int was pretty much one of the few good original ideas from HoN that improved the game. I always love seeing people cry over honestly minor changes.
I remember all the people that said the game would become pure shit when Blink Dagger was disabled during damage.
>>335512169
>new torrent ticks isnt a buff
Hes gonna rape some heroes now
>>335512169
No buffs? What do you mean.
>>335495070
>Playing a game thats no longer balanced by Icefrog
wew lads
>>335512382
>>335512408
>>335512446
>>335512457
It's just too much guys
I'm reading the patch notes now
50 gold TP scrolls? Really?
At least they buffed Vanguard but by buffing Vanguard they nerfed the shit out of Abyssal.
And all these new items, like honestly I like new content but can I just have a new fucking hero jesus christ.
>>335495292
but spell amp works on pure damage right? Must be good for OD with 200 int
Did they release a new character since Winter Wyvern? If not then that's really sad.
>blood seeker aghs is fucking useless
>Arc Warden is gutted
OH BOY
>>335512671
Well its a good thing they nerfed his int gain heavily
>>335495728
>Is there a way to move your charicter with your keyboard instead of mouse so I can be more precise?
>Kotl is now the fastest hero in the game
>>335512871
makes a bit of sense, he does ride a horse :/
Post your Post patch face /v/
>>335512619
Abyssal is good, it's just now built for str initiators and brawlers instead of limp wristed agi carries.
I agree that they need to get more heroes out, and maybe start really focusing on buffing/reworking irrelevant heroes as well. However, Icefrog has never been good at either of those things so...
>>335512698
arc warden was released in 6.86
>>335512698
They did, plenty.
>>335496186
So she's just drinking the milk to fill her jugs...but her jugs are already full si the milk just spills right out the top right?
Wouldn't milk stains ruin that dress?
>>335512993
I don't know, this patch just seems underwhelming.
A bunch of new items, like the last three patches.
No new heroes.
None of my favorite heroes were touched.
I do like Viper losing his UAM, now he can build Skadi
>>335512993
>I usually go Vanguard first on my CK builds for tower diving shenanigans
>Huge success with the build, 80% winrate since ive been doing it
>Its been buffed ao heavily that the illusioms get block and I can make an abyssal out of it
Too fucking good
So do we build Vanguard on every carry now?
>>335513220
This man gets it. I hate when people build him like straight carry and not just super tank and spank with illusions.
>>335512987
>The Timber buffs
>The jumping ES
It's good
>>335498520
I can take the rapier nerf. Seen it coming. Even the midas nerf. But magnetic field is absolutely useless now. Better to skill stats
RIP
>tfw when no antimage nerfs
Axe rat is gonna overrun pubs
>spin is pure damage
>Illusions now block damage
>Crimson Guard=more health regen
Just go Manta, BoT's, and maybe a radiance and just push constantly.
>>335512169
>can catch anyone in the game pre bkb ala gay lina euls stun combo, BUT WITHOUT HAVING TO BUY EULS
>easily becomes beefy off of stats alone
>can TP back to base, and recall back with full bottle charges instantly
The most lowrisk bullshit ive ever seen
>>335513293
>not going Armlet into HoT
>
>>335511962
I personally rush rad into BoT but I prefer farming alch. You seem to prefer ganking alch.
The game has been going to shit for some time now. This new scan thing is just unbearable.
>>335513448
Armlet can be good, but it doesn't give a great deal of benefit to his illusions. HoT is amazing though.
Is Axe good now?
Is Enchantress shit now? Half her damage has been stolen.
What is Void now? He seems like more of a carry now.
Is AM now OP since you build Vanguard and then an Abyssal?
How long will Huskar stay in the trashcan for?
Is Invoker finally done for?
Will Kunkka/LC ever be relevant?
Is Lifestealer stronk now?
Has Spectre finally been dumpstered?
Is Viper gonna be meta?
How did Icefrog actually nerf a sleeper OP hero, Zeus, and not let him become the next Lesh?
More importantly, should I stop playing DaS III so I can Dota it up?
So many questions, so few answers.
>>335513543
I actually skip armlet and go for skadi after a vanguard
The early components give good health and add to your shit mana pool, that and the skadi effects for your illusions is pretty big
>>335513424
>Manta Radiance BoTsoctamemeAxe
How long before this bullshit because the shit on every hero?
>>335513543
>Extra 25 Str for illusions
>475 additional HP for those illusions
Armlet is easily the best way to blow people up, then you buy HoT with all the kills you'll be getting
Who else will be banning Axe every game?
Guaranteed to be the cancer of this patch.
>>335513424
blade mail is actually viable on him for real this time since it ignores his armor during call. Spin to win is back
>>335513296
>2K more expensive than a blink dagger
>not instant
>hard to cancel
It's a meme but other than that
smfh
>>335509194
>Its no longer an orb effect
Yeah, which means if he casts it in lane he will aggro the creeps.
>>335513931
>he doesnt lose his current aghs
I see only cancer for ES though, he was already stupidly strong
>>335513483
>it's new so that means it's bad
>>335514053
I didn't realize they kept his current aghs, I'm still scared of fucking retards rushing aghs thought.
>>335513708
>Is Axe good now?
Call still has a shitty cast time, but who knows maybe
>Is Enchantress shit now? Half her damage has been stolen.
She will be fine. If she's shit its because nukers become meta.
>What is Void now? He seems like more of a carry now.
Waga carry build.
>Is AM now OP since you build Vanguard and then an Abyssal?
Depends on lineups, but I wouldn't be surprised if Vanguard becomes popular on him.
>How long will Huskar stay in the trashcan for?
Until the hero gets redesigned.
>Is Invoker finally done for?
No.
>Will Kunkka/LC ever be relevant?
No.
>Is Lifestealer stronk now?
As a traditional carry maybe, but i'm doubtful. Sven seems like a better choice.
>Has Spectre finally been dumpstered?
No.
>Is Viper gonna be meta?
Probably not since early and mid game doesn't seem to be that strong right now.
>How did Icefrog actually nerf a sleeper OP hero, Zeus, and not let him become the next Lesh?
Disabling blinks with a passive was fucking stupid.
>More importantly, should I stop playing DaS III so I can Dota it up?
No.
>>335514053
>he doesn't lose his current aghs
yes he does.
I'm pretty sure that's what "reworked" means.
So would Wind Lace be an item to consider buying for Invoker at start now that it is needed to build into Euls and Drums?
>>335514107
Not him but these things are getting really stupid. LoL went to shit by adding stupid mechanics around the S6 area for no reason and Dota seems to be doing the same.
Guys, this is officially the death of PL.
When they nerfed PL, it honestly wasn't that bad. You could still dumpster kids if they didn't have any CC.
Now, a ton of people are going to be building vanguard. Your illusions will deal no damage to the enemy carry.
PL kiddos are fucked now. RIP le balanced cat man of many illusions
>>335495070
people are pretending to be hype about this shit.
right?
>>335513708
>Is Axe good now?
I'm not going to say you'll see him in tons of comp games, he's still somewhat situational. He's vastly improved though. I still think his Battle Hunger needs to be replaced completely though.
>Is Enchantress shit now?
Her untouchable is still pretty good, and creeps are still pretty strong so I think she's taken a bit of a nerf, but overall will still see some play.
>What is void now?
Seems like he can still kind of go any direction. Feels the most build reliant core out of the agi lineup.
>Is AM now OP?
In this patch? Very well possibly.
>How long will Huskar stay trash?
Forever. Pub's anal pain from forever ago will never recover, and so neither will Huskar.
>Is Invoker finally done for?
I'm sure he will still see play, some of his strengths are still very much there. I don't think he'll see as much though.
>LC/Kunkka relevant?
LC got a slight buff with some of the items, but probably not enough.
>Lifestealer?
See Huskar IMO.
>Spectre finally been dumpstered?
Nah, still super stronk late game. It doesn't seem like the game's meta is shifting to faster games necessarily, and there's a lot of new means of base zoning into late game (good luck pushing into macropyre aghs).
>Is Viper gonna be meta?
Hurricane Pike and Echo Saber say fucking rights.
>Zeus a sleeper
Nah, he's been seeing a resurgence of play, so Icefrog feels the need to nerf him and not all the first pick/ban material.
>>335514373
Yeah and with the Diffusal nerf(?), his illusions aren't really burning that much mana neither
Oh G*d forbid that they change the game and make it better!
Sorry to burst your bubble oldfags, but you 90s kids need understand that this is the year 2016. Your Spice Girls era game is dead. Everybody knows a good sequel is better than its predecessor and Dota 2 has always been infinitely superior to the 32 bit WC3 version.
So is Warlock worth playing now? Or is he still shit?
>>335514373
Good. Fuck Cancer Lancer. Worst strategy ever and most boring for professional games.
>>335514316
my bad didnt see reworked
yes, its shit now, Im glad
>>335514324
No. Just get Null Tali to be an annoying prick with your 500 base damage.
>>335514628
You should probably learn to be more subtle
Here's a (You) for your effort
>>335514628
get scanned, faggot
>>335514916
>Everyone discussing video games
>Angry autist comes along and spergs out
You kill yourself
>>335512169
Kunka/KOTL will be meta mark my words.
>Kunkka buys Echo Sabre
>Kotl gifs mana to Kunkka
>Gee Kunkka how come your mom lets you have TWO Tidebringers???
>>335514270
>Waga carry build
Honestly, not building attack speed on a bash carry is just ridiculous. His reasoning is that you have to hit them to proc mjolnir, but that's fucking stupid. You hit then a couple of times and they can't move because they're permabashed. And you have a mobility spell that is on a 6 second cooldown that just got its range buffed. And if you can't hit anyone in Dota 2 then get fucking good or stop fucking playing. Especially now that his bash deals extra damage you need to proc as many of those as you can.
And I know what you might be saying, "they're a fucking pro you 2k scrub they know more than you." But it's been the general consensus of the Dota community for about 20 fucking years that linken's and manta are trash on Medusa yet I see fucking pros only building that and even skipping skadi for those. And I see pros going that stupid fucking alchemist siren build. Just pick Naga you cunt.
>>335495070
Scan is really bad. Especially since it detects smoked heroes. This is just bullshit, I'm usually all for new stuff in the game, but this feature is honestly bad, especially for competitive play.
>>335512987
>captcha : select all images with bananas
>>335514447
>Nah, he's been seeing a resurgence of play
I swear to god Zeus has been OP since 6.84 but he's been buffed like every patch
>>335515060
>no one does my broken as fuck X marks the spot aethers lens build
Shit is so stupid, you can literally lock down a single hero for ages at level 7
>>335515095
>Scan
>50 gold tp scrolls
>no fucking Pit Lord
>nothing particularly interesting except new bullshit items that no one has asked for since we've gotten new items every single patch for like the past 3
Honestly I probably won't even play Pit Lord since he's a trash fucking hero but can they at least put him in the game so we can finally have all the god damn heroes
>>335515061
I think its silly too, but I think with these vanguard buffs he's at least halfway right. I just think Radiance is a bit silly of a choice even if it does have some kind of teamfight utility.
>>335515061
>inb4 Echo Sabre on Void, Troll, Slardar becomes core
prepare to get bashed to shit
>>335515160
Yeah, he's been good for awhile but pro players always go for "safe" picks. So only people who have been scrimming a lot with him have really picked up Zeus. Then subsequently some started picking him up because they saw how effective he was.
Reminds me of HoN days of Slither Nome's/Geometer or Balphagore. Super broken for awhile but no one professional touched them for a good while. Then after a few pros owned shit with them everyone was playing them and then they finally got nerfed.
>>335515095
>Only way to have wards versus Zeus
Doesn't even reveal or tell you how many people are there. It's not bad, and on a 4.5 minute cooldown it's really nothing.
>>335515215
>My
:^) okay.
>>335515060
Why have kotl though?
>>335505414
that's retarded
>>335515541
Chakra Magic lets him have two Tidebringer smacks. Plus his huge MS buff might actually make him legitimate. OP as fuck base protection too with all the new items.
>>335495070
>scaling int
is this lol? because this is now lol
WHAT ARE BANANAS FOR
>>335515541
Mana chakra reduces the cooldown of the next spell cast by 6 seconds
Tidebringer has a 4 second cooldown
HOLD THE FUCK UP
>Scepter no longer increases Chronosphere's duration
So...scepter was REMOVED from Faceless?
>>335515652
>6% for 100 fucking int
>GAME IS LOL NOW GUISE
>>335515726
it's about the cooldown now
>>335515689
guarantee the courier dies :^ )
>>335515737
>he thinks it will stay at 6%
toplel
I can't be bothered to read the notes.
How fucked isShadow Demon?
>nobody talking about how rain drops will bring a complete end to early game poking
This is the dumbest shit and I'm glad I'm not playing anymore.
>>335515310
Bash has a 2s cd.
>>335515652
>6% more damage per 100 int
Its not anywhere near enough scaling to actually make a difference.
Level 25 Lion barely gets 50 more damage on finger.
>>335512987
>patch notes dont explain bananas
>everyone forgot the pitlord hint when completing the winter passits not too late, keep praying boys
>>335515959
>Mfw buying infused raindrops, wind lace, and some tangos and just throwing myself into the other team
>>335515737
Autists are sticklers for principle, especially special snowflakes like dotards.
>>335515959
I noticed that, but like you I don't play anymore. I have no idea what this game's going to look like at TI6. I regret not going to TI3 or TI5.
>>335515959
This, out of everything raindrops are broken as fuck
well, maybe scanning will have a bigger effect
>>335515921
just the oposite
>Disruption illusion damage increased from 30/40/50/60 to 30/45/60/75%
>Soul Catcher cooldown reduced from 13 to 13/12/11/10
have fun :^)
>>335515921
>Disruption illusion damage increased from 30/40/50/60 to 30/45/60/75%
>Soul Catcher cooldown reduced from 13 to 13/12/11/10
That is all
>>335515959
>can't buy until 3 minutes in
>blocks 120 damage
You can block 1 earth spike from a lion and that's if you take 50 magic damage before that. It might save you from dives but it will not protect you from poke at fucking all.
>>335515959
Because they take like 3 minutes before they are in stock.
>>335515615
But tide is not a spell, this is so weird. Just tested it.
>>335515959
>>335516197
Yeaht that item that 1 guy per team can buy every 3 minutes and blocks a whooping 120 max damage per procc is totally gonna destroy poking
So how long before Bloodthorn gets nerfed? That True Strike on it has no legitimacy
And Atos is dumpstered again, great
>>335515045
>moba
>video game
You are truly the cancer killing video games. Neck yourself
>PA nerfed directly and indirectly
>AGAIN
What did she do to OSFrog, literally nobody is picking her in competitive, why does she get fucked even more
>silver edge buff
>bloodthorn
>echo sabre
so, this is the Slark patch, right?
>>335516461
you misread that, you can purchase it after 3 mins, theres no cd
So are KotL and Lich going to see a huge amount of play in upcoming tournies?
>>335516235
>>335516265
This pleases me.
Its time to become the Ebola king again.
>>335496332
Her new Aghs is definitely something. Refreshable Arctic Burn? Toggable free movement?
>that Jakiro "buff"
Yes, its range was the real problem with Macropyre. Not its piss poor damage.
MOBAS a shit
>>335517024
As a WW player, I'm already getting hard thinking about it
Also, reduced cd on Curse, fuck yes
>>335517175
Im pretty sure Macropyres main problem is that it doesnt do any CC, fuck an extra slow would help a ton
>>335517175
Or the fact that literally anyone can just sidestep it and avoid its shit damage all together
>that timbersaw buff
QUICK! POST TIMBERSAW REACT PICSjokes on you, they dont exist
>That phoenix aghs buff.
It is actually a good buff, considering aghs is a late game item and everyone has a shitload of attack speed.
Patch is shit in general, tho
The Puck illusory orb speed increase is apparently a reference to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4fw6gm/how_687_would_look_like_if_icefrog_was_a_markov/
Someone fed patch notes to a simple machine learning algo, and among the things it spat out was:
>Puck
>Illusory Orb speed increased by 1
>>335517427
As long as you can get stunned during timberchain the hero is never gonna be fully viable
>>335517427
Theres that one drawing of a timbersaw jumping at a giant treant
repost that shit, its brilliant
>>335515652
They were right.
Valve introduced Octameme, and dotards all screamed that we're becoming League. We ignored them, though, and I personally loved the addition of this new item. It was just one int scaling item.
Then Valve introduced Aether Lens. I was skeptical, and it irked me when I saw AL built on nearly every caster hero. What happened to the build diversity that Dota 2 touted? What is this League bullshit, building that item on every int hero? But I dealt with it, as I played Str carries and offlaners.
While this was happening, TPs became cheaper. When the price was lowered from 135 to 100, I was ecstatic. When it was lowered again to 75, I was annoyed. What kind of fucking casual can't plan ahead to pay 100 gold for a fucking TP.
When Spring Cleaning came out, the range indicators disgusted me. I ignored them; they weren't a big deal if I didn't use them. But it bothered me that they were there.
Now, 6.87 has finally come out. No Pit Lord. We still haven't ported all heroes. All we get is new meme int items and new int buffs like the last four patches of le ebin int carries weren't enough, this scan ability that makes scouting heroes irrelevant, and now TPs cost 50 gold, meaning you can buy 40 whole TPs for the same price as a BoTs recipe.
It was fun. I have vehemently defended Dota since 6.84 ever since Valve repaired that awful garbage patch 6.83, but I can't anymore. My time playing's over now. Time to finally clear out my backlog.
>>335517467
Icefrog outmemeing everyone
>>335517467
Congratulations you now realize the devs literally use reddit for balance ideas
Why do you think Invoker was so broken?
>tfw I main Omni, Lone Druid, and Zeus.
>All nerfs
As if static field needed to lose utility and damage.
As if Lone needs to hit like a rubber duck while in bear form.
As if omni can contribute anything now that his manly aura doesn't slow bkb.
>>335516508
>Atos is finally an okay item
>Icefrog makes it not an okay item next patch
>force staff that doubles as a ranged attack
>orchid can now crit and silence
Holy shit I clinkz got better again
>>335517508
I got you famila.
I love playing Timber.
>>335516715
>not going Vanguard -> Silver Edge -> Skadi -> Basher on Slark
Too bad I won't be playing this meme game anymore
>>335517806
>Implying that isnt more of a WR item
>>335495169
Sounds like League of Legends.
I thought Dotards hated this game?
>Kotl of the light is now faster than Luna
Oh boy being a cunt now it will be even easier and faster
>>335517754
Zeus is still strong as fuck, his nerfs weren't massive.
Lone Druid item wise got a good chunk of buffs.
Omni was always a shit hero though.
>>335517709
as a Ledditboogeymen lurker, Icefrog also took advice from leddit and thus this became a thing:
Forge Spirit Health/Mana changed from Exort/Quas based to Quas/Exort based
Icefrog should really stop taking ideas of leddit though.
Dota 2 legacy servers when?
I just want to go back to 6.81. I'll just ban Void every game at least it was only one bullshit hero.
>Night Stalker is missing!
>SCAN
>enemy hero detected near you :o)
ganker heroes dumpstered
>>335518108
>casting a spell in like a 1200 radius of an enemy used to cancel their blink
>now it doesn't
pretty big deal
What does "scan" actually do?
Does anyone know the actual function yet or do we just have guesses?
>>335505991
So is Aghs range now 2800?
>>335518126
Why? They're the kind of autists that lap these shitty patches up and keep it going.
Might as well pander to the audience that still gives a shit about your game.
>>335518191
I mean I've been praying for Icefrog to buff 4protect1 strats for a while now.
But not like this.
Not like this.
>>335517947
not him but
mom+searing arrows+strafe+bloodthorn+hurricane pike
Clinkz is our god now
You guys better start maining Luna, because 3.3 agi per lvl is a fucking shitload of a buff, when void was OP he only had 2.6 agi growth
DUDE I HATE POPULAR GAMES LMAO
>>335518326
You select the option above the map.
Select the part of the map you want scanned.
It shows a green ring in the area, if an enemy is there it turns red. If not, it just ends.
Thats it.
>>335518326
Tested it out, it puts an icon like Io's relocate on your minimap and says if there are heroes or not.
Thats 'it', it will be useless in pubs because mr cyka bliat spams it on useless spots.
>>335518326
Just like sc's scan/lol's clairvoyance you cast on fog of war and it reveals like an area for a couple of seconds
>in b4 it can see invisible units too
>>335503657
shadowgate
>>335503338
So? Silencer damage's is pure anyway
>>335518326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv5M1yWL120
>>335518284
You still have an 850 range cancel (1050 with aether). It's not a huge nerf.
BesidesNO ONE CAN RUN FROM HEAVEN
>>335516358
>But tide is not a spell, this is so weird. Just tested it.
It's still a spell where you must attack to proc it and has it's own cooldown before you use it again.
I wonder if some heal spells also increase with the Int changed.Imagine KOTL shitting 700 damage/heals aoe every 5 seconds
>>335518564
BEEP
BOOP
>>335518406
paint me a casual, but honestly a lot of these stats buff icefrog does typically don't seem to be that big of a deal
Like Luna gained like .6 agility per level. By level 25, that's about 15 damage and attack speed. It's not that big of a deal.
When PL was nerfed, he lost .4 agility per level. He lost 10 damage and 10 attack speed. The only issue was the cast point on doppleganger, but honestly PL could still dumpster the shit out of kids in the same situations in the previous patch: as long as they didn't have to much AOE.
>>335518564
What the fuck
How am I going to Techies or NS after this shit patch?
Call me a retard, but how do i test this shit out?
>>335518564
>FREE GLOBAL WARD
>FREE GLOBAL WARD
>FREE GLOBAL WARD
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY SMOKING?
>>335518526
>a global Clairvoyance as part of the UI for every hero to use
This is so fucking retarded, I'm glad I've given up on MOBAs as a while
guys what if aghs refresher bloodseeker for the sake of utility becomes a meme
>Rupture three fuckng people in a team fight
>>335516681
She's quite a bit stronger during the mid game thanks to her scaling daggers. They hit like a truck and aren't reduced by 50% damage anymore. Of course, stacking armor dumpsters her dagger, but there won't be enough to do much until late game.
>>335518954
>NS
Lose out on one gank then have the entire rest of the night and 30 seconds into the day to continue your reign of terror.
>Techies
Keep moving bitch.
>>335519010
>>335518954
>4,5m cooldown
>>335519045
It's one use for team, same way as Fortify
>>335519059
>three
nice refresher m8 the hero still sucks.
>>335519010
It does not even grant vision how is it a free ward? Good lord you people are so misinformed.
>>335519118
ITS FREE FUCKING VISION THOGUH FOR 8 SECONDS GLOBALLY
IT FUCKING REVEALS SMOKE TOO??
>>335518526
It doesn't reveal the area.
It only reveals whether there is a hero in the area. Read the patch notes. Someone even just posted a video.
It shows if an invis or smoked hero is in the area, not heroes in the rosh pit
>>335516142
it clearly TI6 Radiant MONKEY KING vs Dire PIT LORD
>>335519101
>keep moving as techies
>can no longer set bomb traps that will do anything
>>335519059
Good luck farming those items with how shit he'll be all throughout the early/mid game.
>>335518564
>get legion arcana from random wheel thingy
>sell it for techies arcana on the market and have money left over
>prays to icefrog thanking him for such a blessing
>fast forward to today to get this shit
well shit
>>335519252
>Monkey King
they literally reworked PL into Monkey King
>>335519101
yeah what if they scan my fucking mines you RETARD
it's gonna be impossible to gank now holy shit
>>335519216
How do you differentiate from an entire team smoked up to gank, a jungler, a rotation, or a support warding? You can't.
>>335519252
I want to believe
>>335519216
It doesn't reveal smoke or rosh pit.
>>335519372
you can if it scans it for you you can just fucking see it you FUCKING RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT
WHY ARE YOU DEFEINADING THESE AWFUL LOL-TIER BALANCE CHANGES????
>Summoner spells
>Spells scale with your int
>Towers are stronger now to prevent early game push strats
when did this game become League?
>>335519216
>VISION
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
>>335519356
IT ONLY REVEALS HEROES YOU FUCKING DUNCE.
Jesus H. Christ, can any of you fucks read. It doesn't give vision, it doesn't reveal anything except
>HEY ASSHOLE, THERE'S SOME FUCK(S) IN THIS GENERAL AREA
Nothing else. It doesn't say how many heroes you've scanned, it doesn't say what heroes you've scanned, it doesn't show what direction or even their exact position.
>>335519216
Repeat after me
>4,5m cooldown
>Beep without saying WHO, HOW MANY or IF THEY ARE SMOKED
>It doesn't work on Roshan Pit
It will probably get nerfed into 5 or 6 minutes if it will get nerfed.
>>335519496
The real problem is the Int % and some of the new items.
Scan is probably the least of the issues
>>335519496
Okay, calm down. Take a deep breath and try to remain coherent. I did not defent the mechanic, I merely challanged your autism. I feel like the scanning mechanic has absolutely no place in DotA, but at the same time it isn't nearly as bad as people are making it out to be.
>>335495070
What's so fucking great about a x.xx patch?
>>335519623
% dmg off of int is a meme
I build aethers on pratically every hero and I never notice the increased dmg
>everyone crying about Scan because it gives a few seconds of knowledge of whether an enemy is in the area or not
>nobody is crying because it makes a fucking annoying boop sound
>>335515921
Fellow Shadow Demon.
WE STRONK NIGGA
75% ILLUSION DAMAGE
CATCHER HAS LIKE, NO COOLDOWN
WE DID IT BOY
MOVIN ON UP
>>335519623
The % spell increase is honestly really negligible, even more so because of the fact that they upped the base HP for all the heroes too.
To even increase spell damage by 10%, you'd need 160 int, which gives you a whopping +85 to your 850 damage lv 3 Laguna Blade which really isn't a lot by that point.
>>335519496
>>335519356
See >>335518564
Also, ITS A 4 AND A HALF MINUTE CD.
>impossible to gank
It shows you a 900 aoe for 8 goddamn seconds out of one whole day/night. That does dick for them.
>>335519526
>>Summoner spells
Like how fortification was always there?
>>Spells scale with your int
Yeah cause that extra 50 damage on finger of death at level 25 is super huge.
>>Towers are stronger now to prevent early game push strats
Only tier 2 towers. Diving is weaker now though because of the armor buff to near by heroes.
>>335518380
This isn't for farming. It's so teams can do reverse ganks for more BIG PLAYYYYZZZZ.
You still won't be able to win with hard carries, aside from the occasional absurdly broken hero that shits out 1k dps at lvl 10 because of some design oversight.
I think they're making it easier to run around the forests on the side of the map so it's more like League where you have those bushes you can hide in
Like honestly that's the most League change I see
>>335519857
This.
You have a 20 HP base increase and 1 more HP per strength point. If anything this int change was to combat these changes to keep numbers relevant without having to address every single individual hero.
God /v/ is full of retards and kneejerk spastic autismlords.
>>335519857
I wonder why they even added that
The extra spell damage on Aether Lens was also complete ass for any hero not called Zeus (simply because his shit scales)
mobas are so fucking boring.
why don't you guys play games from actually fun genres? FPS games like CS:GO for example.
>>335520010
It's literally a casual reward for not having any map awareness
>>335519526
>>Towers are stronger now to prevent early game push strats
Since when is early pushing actually viable?
>>335519767
If you put it that way, then i'm definitely making the problem bigger than it looks.
I just like to know that each spells deal X damage, i guess it has grown on me.Especially on LoL where every fucking spell have Magic/Physical damage ratio based and it's fucking annoying
!!! NEW RAT APPROACHING !!!
>>335520190
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST. THIS POST IS BAIT. ANY FURTHER REPLIES TO THIS POST WILL BE CONSIDERED SAMEFAGGING.
Please continue your DotA 2 relevant discussions
>>335520190
>fun genres
>like
>CS:GO
>>335520190
>CS:GO
>Fun
Nice meme
>>335520381
>>335520345
Samefag
>>335518994
does nobody know or?...
>>335498738
you can fuking stack 3 of them
>>335495671
its not 900 aoe stun, its 900 jump radius.
>>335520440
>less than 30 seconds between the 2 posts
Sure homo
>>335520335
>>335520440
you moba-lovers legitimately piss me the fuck off. what a stupid fucking genre.
>>335520345
>>335520381
It has plenty of faults. Plenty. It is nowhere near as good as an FPS game can be. But it is still better than Mobas.
It's a slippery slope I tell ya
Octarine -> Aether lens -> Passive int scaling
Added more obvious ward spots - > range indicators and camp blocking indicators -> scan garbage feature
Dota is dead. 6.83 marked the end. The first memeback patch. Then all the meme items. It signified the end of Dota as a good game and the beginning as a meme game. I just can't believe i was too blind to see
>>335509480
you can ult then midas on each faggot
>>335520505I just like Source more tbqh
>he actually plays ASSFAGGOTS
>>335520327
>lasts a good 30 seconds
I don't even know what is going on at Valve. Like these stupid fucking agh's upgrades.
And that stupid fucking OD rework. Like it takes out all the skill and makes him a powerhouse level 1 that just has to right click the enemy and become super powerful instead of stealing int strategically.
Honestly I only want to play Dota anymore so I can build vanguard on like every hero
I want off this ride.
Can you stack the new Wind Lace +20 mov spd with boots?
I haven't really been following DotA since the last International
How is this gonna change professional play?
>That Axe buff
>Blademail does damage before reduction
>PURE damage on totally balanced counter spin
>>335521131
Not by much. The hero lineups will shift a bit, not too drastically a change in strategies.
Scan is only going to catch a couple of smoke ganks at best, and only if they accurately predict where they're smoking from.
Yup. This is the patch that I finally drop dota.
>Scan
Literally. Fuck off.
>scepter now increases the number of attacks required to destroy phoenix ult to 13
scepter now core on phoenix, you heard it here first
>>335521168
>Balanced Redman of Sick Spins
>>335520479which will stun because of Aftershock
>>335521413
nigger it doesn't even give real vision
you can avoid one gank you've already predicted every five minutes
it can't see rosh pit, can't tell you how many people are in the area, etc
Did anybody even get any good buffs? It seems everything just got nerfed.
>>335521786
Why is it every brain dead retarded thing Valve does with Dota people still defend it.
I bet you thought showing spawn boxes on neutrals was a good idea and you like the fifty gold tp scroll you fucking scrub
>>335522000
spawn boxes on neutrals should have only been a thing in bot matches, so shitters can actually learn the spots
>fifty gold tp
it's dumb but maybe pubtrash will buy them now
>>335522000
>I bet you thought showing spawn boxes on neutrals was a good idea and you like the fifty gold tp scroll you fucking scrub
Why are they bad things? Spawn boxes means that pros have less margin for error when it comes to blocking and dewarding and might just reveal more blocking spots than before and 50 gold TP just means easier for supports to rotate.
>>335522282
Honestly at this point why even fucking charge anything for TP scrolls and let's make them global
And let's lower the skill ceiling even more let's make it so you don't have to think about anything
Like honestly I haven't cared about any of these changes until now
Aether lens was a little shit but it was whatever, but Icefrog is going way too far
>>335522493
>this game should be hard to get into because I say so
well at least you don't have a say in it
>>335522623
fuck off idiot, if you want to play something brain dead why don't you just go play League
why don't we take out the racket from tennis and make the net about a foot off the ground while we're already fucking shit up
>>335522493
You still haven't given a good reason for not having TP scrolls be cheap. They are a mandatory item for every single hero for the entirety of the game, a tax for just existing. By making them cheaper to buy you then speed up the pace of the game by letting heroes, supports especially, get to their core items. It makes the game faster and less painful for supports.
>Reaper's Scythe is now actually useful level 1
favorite buff desu senpai
>>335522836
It also indirectly nerfs rat strats (IE cancer) and also makes tower dives less likely to be ignored.
>Infused Raindrop
LITERALLY
HOT
FUCKING
GARBAGE
>>335522836
>less painful for supports
literally the last five patches have been dedicated to making the game less painful for supports
glimmer cape, greaves, solar crest, two wards in one slot, this fucking memeback aoe gold and exp shit
supports have it a shit ton easier than 6.81 or 6.82
and no, I'm not someone who despises every change that makes Dota easier. I loved the change from 135 gold tp scrolls to 100. I thought 100 to 75 was a bit excessive, but I accepted it. 50 is just ridiculous. It's not as big of an issue if someone dies in lane anymore. Back when TPs costed 135 gold, if you saw someone buy something at the side shop and new they just spent all their gold, you could punish them by killing them and making them walk all the way back to lane. These patches are moving Dota away from strategy and more and more to action. And I'm fine with action, but the strategy is just disappearing, and maybe if we'd get a strategy orientated patch for once, or not another meme fucking int buff, or just not something that makes it so Dota is shinier and you can shoot more spells so more ten year olds will watch the flashing lights and cool plays
I mean just look at it, we got like two new mana regen items that also provide a good amount of damage, so your decisions on whether or not you should use a spell mean less and less since your just regening everything back anyway. and if you happen to waste all your mana, no matter, just tp back to base with your 50 gold tp
>>335519478
it does detect smoked units
>>335512987
Wow gosh icefrog thanks for adding a fucking global ward I sure do love getting detected every five minutes.
>>335522871
>can't guide an enemy hero to the tavern for a good minute
>>335522000
>I bet you thought showing spawn boxes on neutrals was a good idea
anyone who was good already knew the spawn boxes so it really only helps your shitty pub team
>>335524308
yeah but now you can get kills level 6 so the most fun build in the game just got better
>>335517986
go look up how ability scaling works in LoL.
>>335524498
You mean Dagon Necro? That's cancer.
>>335524725
Don't care. I'm not talking about viability, I'm talking about fun
FUN
U
N
>>335524413
It just looks fucking ugly do Peruvians really need that much fucking help I hate seeing those big ugly yellow boxes when I'm trying to place a ward
And honestly if the players in your bracket don't know any spots to block a fucking camp then all you need to do is plop the ward right in the middle of the camp right where the creeps spawn because they are never gonna find that shit
>>335524725
I have never seen a Dagon Necro win a game unless the enemy team is full of mouth breathing retards or his team is literally carrying him like a bunch of chinese peasants and the god damn empress
>>335495169
Haven't played in a year, as a pugna player this has made me consider reinstalling.
>>335517676
me 2
just started a new team, all 6 k, this shit hits now, we took a break for a week, im going on fulltime hiatus now i think
>All these changes
>Don't unfuck Techies.
W-well at least Abbadon got a little buff.
>>335500139
How do I thumbs up this post
>>335500139
here have an upboat :)
>>335525175
>That feel when remembering all the big Techies plays leading up to TI5
>>335500139
It's such an easy fix too.
>If you're brazil, peru, or rus, you can't select NA servers
GG EZ.
>people think scan won't be useless in pubs
either some dumbfuck peruvian will use it to scan a pointless spot or in cases where you actually find someone's position with it your team won't try and do anything with that information
>>335525771
Jajaja concha tu madre
>>335525771
I fucking wish.
Region locking would be the number one best thing that could ever happen to Dota.
You know, I've realized why I've been quitting playing Dota for longer and longer every patch just to wait for the next one.
6.83 was just a shit fucking patch. 6.84 was pretty nice, but then they kept it for like six fucking months. And then they introduced 6.85, which was just more fucking int carries. And then it was 6.86, and other int carries were OP. And now, it's 6.87, and you know who's going to dominate the meta? Int fucking carries.
Maybe I would stop quitting Dota if the meta would fucking shift to something that ISN'T INT CARRIES, but that won't happen because int carries have flashy light and can fight early on so more fucking autists will pay Valve to watch some fucking autists play against other autists and choose the same heroes over and over again and basically play the same game
Like I swear to god I've seen every OD game at this point, I know what's going to happen, I've seen every Spectre game too, I've seen every Invoker game as well. There's just no fucking variety.
>>335526849
Echo blade + str buffs make str melee carries super strong.
>>335527492
This. Abyssal changed to be run on more str heroes, vanguard and other buffs, higher melee range, more base HP and 1 extra HP per str point and echo blade? Seems like str cores and initiators are going to be god tier.
>>335525175
He never should have gone meta.
I'll just make sure when I draft to not pick my favourites.
>>335527492
>>335527597
But this is my other problem
Echo blade and that other oblivion staff item or orchard item or whatever it's made up of is literally just so RTZ can cast more spells at TI6 without running out of mana so it'll be more interesting to watch to ten year olds with ADD who can't keep their attention on one thing for more than five minutes
Like, whatever happened to having to think about what spell are you gonna use? Like with Tiny, back before two runesI know two runes make the game more balanced, but they should have nerfed bottle accordingly to account for everyone's infinite mana after thatI remember thinking "man, I would really like to farm this creep wave extremely quickly so I can go participate in a gank, but if I waste my avalanche + toss then I won't have enough mana to kill anyone!"
It's been obvious that mana costs were meaning less and less every patch, but still some str carries had mana problems. Now, just build one of the two items Icefrog introduced that not only give Strength heroes a decent amount of damage but also enough mana regen to last them the whole midgame when they should be worrying about their mana and coordinating with their team for arcane boots and other ways to conserve their mana.
>>335495070
>counter helix does pure damage now
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
GET FUCKED
>>335513985
>you can only orbwalk with uam's
>>335505383
ahaha
IT'S TIME
TA not even touched. Still considered a perfectly balanced hero.
Thank fucking God.
The entirety of this patch is complete and utter shit. 6.83 best patch of my life.
>>335528128
My thoughts exactly. The game is becoming more entertaining to watch while less enjoyable to think about and play.
>>335514270
>Disabling blinks with a passive was fucking stupid.
Take a level one zeus. Skill Static field. Blinks disabled? No. Fucking retard think before you type. He has to have a target for his q and his w his NUKE. Has a cooldown longer than a blink disable.
Go fuck yourself.
>>335529076
Herr Hitler? Es ist vier in der Morgen
>>335517754
>having "mains" in a Moba
>not picking based what's most suitable for team composition
How's that 400MMR treating you
>>335529197
Ich habe die Kontrolle über mein Leben verloren
>>335529252
4000 is generous for a weeaboo with only one good hero out of the lot to pick from (technically two, but one actually requires you to be a decent player).
>>335529347
I smell Google Translate
>>335529197
>>335529347
Nigma please
Shitpost in english
>>335530010
>er kann nicht Deutsch sprechen
lachenfrauen.jpg
>>335530157
>He can't speak German
laughingwomen.jpg
How far off?
>>335530446
You got it. Mine's not great so I wasn't really sure how to go about "laughing bitches" so "frauen" works
>>335528882
TA is a boring hero for bad players though
>all these fucking bananas
This shit better not be on the main client. Keep your quests on DotA.
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
ICE FROG HAS DONE IT AGAIN
>>335532860
What the fuck is a banana
>>335533031
Venomancer
>>335533117
this meme confuses me
veno wasn't touched this patch
>>335533031
Destroy some trees on the test client
Trees drop a consumable Banana. Gives +4 int
Can be consumed, which drops a banana peel on the ground that makes heroes, and creeps slip.
>Terrorblade
>10 armor and 2.5 hp regen at level 1
well fuck me
>>335533441
Terrorblade jungle is getting stronger
>Juggernaut
>Healing Ward now follows Juggernaut by default
>>335533308
You're kidding me
Right?
>>335504135
Fuck. What happened? I haven't played for like two months and last time I played Medusa. The fuck they do to my silencer?
>>335533582
Nope
Its a ARG for Sun-Wukong aka the Monkey King hero from the 6.79 patch on DotA. I hope
I hope its a temp thing for a new hero. Not a fucking permanent thing
>COUNTER HELIX IS NOW PURE DAMAGE
>>335498520
It's was one of those "dumpster this hero for now so we can rework him by next patch" nerfs
>>335533556
That's a pretty good change desu
>>335533834
Indeed, can't recall how many times I got killed by trying to get my ward to follow me while running away from the recent teamfight.
>>335533441
He's getting scary again.
>>335504380
There are always threads for the big season patch notes which are the equivalent of big dota patches
>>335504380
Because LoL patches come out constantly and they barely change anything but nerfing people
>>335504380
Riot updates all mages, everyone hates them
Valve touches literally everything, everyone hates everything but realizes its actually more interesting and fun afterwards
>>335508179
THIS.
FUCK THIS BULLSHIT FUCK DOTA2
IM GONNA FEED SO HARD
>>335535620
>this fucking patch
![hP0DgMx[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/QJh3g6l.jpg "hP0DgMx[1]")
