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Smash Summit 2 - Final Day


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Melee tourney hosted by the Beyond the Summit crew.

Doubles starting at 12:00 PST, Singles right after. So far only ESAM, SilentWolf, PewPewU and Wobbles are eliminated. All the gods there still in winner's side!

full brackets: https://smash.gg/tournament/smash-summit-2/brackets

Stream @ BeyondTheSummit
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thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7spvZ3Sv8b0
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mafia today?
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>>335378007
No mafia today senpai
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I'M
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BRAINBASE.
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>>335378295
DAJUAN
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who do you think has the best chance to make top 3 out of the loser's bracket?

i'm gonna say plup just because he's easily the next best player
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>>335377905
these "you're watching sfat" are weird as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I6Spb5ap5E
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>>335379597
top 3? plup has the only chance, i dont see Westballz beating m2k for a while

plup and wes will make it to top 6

i hope Ice beats sfat
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Mew2King beating Armada would make my day, peach is such a lameo character
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>>335377905
this is some quality Kino tbhonest
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>>335379597
Plup has pretty much a free road in losers bracket unless Axe beats Duck. Otherwise s2j is free, then he'll go Duck against Samus. IIRC he usually holds the advantage against Westballz although things may have changed.
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i c e
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>>335378378
ENERGY
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>>335380038
M2k winning the tourney would make me happy for at least a month
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>>335380049
Which pro melee players are avid anime fans that are NOT Leffen?
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>>335380361
Lucky, MacD, Toph kinda, a lot of norcal honestly (except SFAT--he hates it), Reno.. that's all i know.
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>>335380168
MC
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Reminder that our boy Hugs deserves to be at the summit and not Esam
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>>335380517
DANIEL
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>he doesn't have the DaJuan Energy McDaniel ringtone

what are you doing with your life senpai

https://soundcloud.com/last-stock-legends/d-e-mcdaniel
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Let's see em boys
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>tfw shes at Pax

Why isnt she here with us
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anyone wanna keep track?
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post your ideal GFs, keep it realistic

>1. armada-mango
>2. mang0-hbox
>3. mew2king-armada
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>>335381337
smash community is too sexist
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>every god except mango 3-0's ez
>mango struggling and just barely pulled off a 3-2 win

>mfw people think mango is anywhere near as good as hbox or even armada

too much time spent memestreaming non-smash has destroyed him
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>>335381827
to be fair, westballz is one of the few who actually has a close record with mango
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>alex19

WHAT THE FUCK
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THE MAGIC
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IF UCKING HATE ALEX19
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>>335379908
if by :"Weird" you mean "fucking hilarious because I'm a gigantic fucking faggot with no taste or sense of humor" then yes
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>>335382032
Alex19 is awesome sempai
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BUY BRAINGEAR
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>>335381526
>"no slouch" nowhere to be seen
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>THE MAGIC19
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>>335381827
>mfw mang0 should have lost 3-1

fug
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>>335382145
the duck one is perfect
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FUCKING ESHIT AND AXE MADE THEM LOSE MAFIA
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I missed most of yesterday. Is day three up? Any notable sets? Also, how was mafia last night?
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>>335382263
no you idiot it was norcal being lazy as fuck and having no good arguments
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>>335382145
Kill yourself
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>>335381174
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This guy comes up to you in the club and slaps your ass, what do you do?
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>>335382361
>Any notable sets?

Ice-M2k
Westballz-Mang0
ESAM-Shroomed for keks
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>>335382361
Mafia was great for the shitshow that it was. Fuck Esam even more btw.

The vod is available
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>>335382425
>implying S2J or Duck winning wouldn't be cool as shit
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>>335382525
his point is it would never happen in a million years.
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>>335382361
These >>335382497
And Ice - PPU
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>>335382623
and my point is that it'll be cool as shit if they do win
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>>335382145
Aw don't be a fucking fanboy Plup deserves a win and Mango doesn't
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>>335382484
Pick ganon and 3-0 him
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Hey guys, I'm starting to play melee again (after playing it as a kid) Where do I learn the basic movement techniques like wavedashing and l-cancelling?
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Hiding balding tier list:
S tier - Westballz hoodie

B tier - Alex19 baseball cap

D tier - Armada combover
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>doubles
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>>335382715
Just letting you know, you're "that fucking kid."

Whenever people give you 'that look' or just ignore what you're saying? It's because you're "that fucking kid."

Just letting you know.
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>>335382854
this guy has a lot of great vids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_eZoX8nAdg

also try SSBM tutorials for more character specific stuff
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>>335382893
Mew2King "deal with it" god tier
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nth for fuck wobbles he doesn't even want to win
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>shorts
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>>335382145
thoroughly enjoyed this although i heavily disagree with a few options

great job
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>>335382893
Armada definitely has a full head of hair just a pretty weird hair line / part
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>>335382145
scarily accurate
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>>335382975
whatever you say buddy
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>>335382978
Thanks. I want to start playing Falcon btw
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>>335382145
who the fuck has a squidward folder?
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>>335383105
his shit is fucked up.
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How was Mafia last night?

>>335383196
Damn genetics
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Who the fuck is Alex "The Magic" 19?
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>>335383318
Pretty shitty honestly, ESAM had a bad read on the Ghost message and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.
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>>335383386
Alex19 isn't so great?
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>>335383386
you haven't heard of the 7th best fox in SoCal?

idiot
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>>335383157
I have a brown elf folder I could use to fill that out but I can't be bothered.
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remember that sexual jokes are inappropriate guys
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>>335383741
based scar, always standing up for The People
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>>335383741
Truly the peoples champ
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>>335382153
This.

There used to be an artistry/purpose to surrealism. Now the content creators are all memelords.
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>>335381174
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>HomemadeWaffles and/or Phil commentary
Easily the absolute worst commentators. Biased as fuck and have nothing to say.
>Good shorten my Mang0
>Mang0 is playing well
>That was unlucky for Mang0
>Nice u-smash from Mang0
Why they were on for top 8 at Genesis I will never know. Cancer of smash commentary.
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Team norwalk has absolutely no shot.
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>>335383741
The peoples cuck
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>>335384107
>HomemadeWaffles and Phil
>the worst commentators
Free (You)
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>triple stagespike into Fox up aerial

oh bby Norwalk pls win
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The King is looking good. Could he get 3rd?
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>>335384107
i liked how they said hbox is cockblocking mango in genesis 3

only comment i liked

and then they spazzed about profanity
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Can and has Axe's Pika ever beat Hbox Jigs?
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I want norwalk to win, but I'm so worried that it will ruin m2k's spirit for singles.
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>>335384731
I don't understand the question, but the answer is no.

[/spoiler]Hbox will never lose a none-god ever again. Until Leffen returns[/spoiler]
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>>335384731
He beat him at MLG 2014, but seeing the way Hungrybox has improved, it's not likely to happen again. Unless Axe figures something out.
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>>335384875
You fucked that up, but you're right.
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johnny is playing fucking amazing.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

SO CLOSE
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MANGO STOP
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Predictions?

>Doubles:
1st: M2K & Armada
2nd: Mango & S2J
3rd: PewPewU & SFAT

>Singles:
1st: Hbox
2nd: Armada
3rd: Mango
4th: Plup
5th: M2K
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poor mango
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mango please
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team baldies is gonna take it
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>going back to Pokemon Stadium
My mom always told me not to go down the same alley I got raped in
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"It does damage to your liver and kidneys" tafokints on braingear
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post

>yfw Hbox takes this tourney
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>>335385498
>armada
>bald

Thin swedish hairline =/= bald
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>when Armada teams with any sheik
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>>335385604
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>>335385604
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>>335385625
i give him a year tops before he starts sporting the monster hat
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>>335385604
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>>335385604
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>>335381827
the way mango plays doesn't work with the current meta, doesn't mean he's worse than them.
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holy fucking shit lol
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that was the most impressive stage control I've ever seen in teams
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>>335385850
Why do you like second worst girl? Fucking kill yourself.
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>>335385930
Blue team was literally in center stage baiting red to come in. Sick.
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>>335385810
Saved
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>>335384731
Armada is the only God whos never got beaten by Axe
Seems like it will stay that way
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>>335385895
>not keeping up with the meta doesn't make you worse
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>>335385604
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>it's another commentators are biased to mango episode
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the fucking chokes
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>>335385604
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Drink bleach documentary fags.
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>>335385604
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>>335385932
who's the worst?
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>>335386057
Axe was so fucking close at Eclipse too
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>>335386253
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>>335386306
Who else but Chinashit?
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>>335386407
but china is the best
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>>335386253
Jokes on you. I played Super Smash Flash years before the documentary was made.
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>>335386402
You Twitch addicted faggots that obsess over Melee players because you saw them in the documentary.
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>>335386253
You again?
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>>335386407
oh, okay. you're cool then. china is literally the worst
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>>335386141
why people dicksuck mango when he is the 5th of the 5 gods?

>>335386489
her name is Meiling, not China
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>>335386535
whats your twitch username?
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>>335386535
most of the people at this tourney were not even in the docu you literal dumbfuck

that shit was filmed 3 years ago
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>>335386407
You're still wrong
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>>335386586
ppmd and mew2king are both much much worse.

it goes

Armada > Fatbox > Mang0at > Mew2king >>>PMDFree
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>>335386610
Why would I have one? I am not a faggot.

>>335386641
I think you're confused as to what the problem is.
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>>335386586
he's 3
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>>335386141

I am getting so fucking tired of the extreme Mango bias. Jesus christ, Mango hasn't been a Top 2/Top 3 player for almost 2 years now.

Especially HomeMadeWaffles, Phil and fuccboi Alex19, get those guys outta here.

Scar is blindly biased as well, but at least he is funny and makes jokes about it.
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These fuckers need to stop talking about In N Out, I'm studying abroad in Bongland and cut off from my supply.
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>>335386586
Hbox>Armada>Mang0>suicide2king>PPMFree
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>>335386586
>her name is meiling not china
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>>335386865
I had In N Out one time in my life when I visited my sister in California and I can't forget it

Being east coast is suffering
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Why does everyone hate hbox?

Unless i get some good evidence I'm very inclined to believe it's just salty west coasters and mango fanboys

people hate him more than fucking leffen these days
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I wonder how legit Braingear is.
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>>335387113
not as legit as addy
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>>335387078
You're exactly right

There's literally nothing to dislike about Hbox besides the fact that he's a stand up guy and has a profession outside of being a smasher.

And that's exactly what they target.
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>>335387113
Stop wondering and use Google then.
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>>335387078
Nobody hates Leffen. He's literally our guy.
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>>335387078
He's a little too dramatic and kind of a stick in the mud but he's ok
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>>335387217
I guess it would make sense that NEETs would be salty he has a fantastic fallback once smash is over

unlike mango who has nothing except the non-sustainable hopes of being a twitch memer
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>>335387078
He plays lame. Just look at how he played at evo. He doesn't play as lame anymore but he is still an overdramatic faggot.
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>>335387078
west coast bias
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>>335387021
SHE IS HONK MEILING
NOT CHINA
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>>335387058
>be a Louisianafag
>go to Cali for a high school band trip
>we had In N Out burgers after a performance
>felt like fucking heaven
>mfw I will most likely never have In N Out ever again
It's not fair
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>>335387291
mang0 is charasmatic as fuck and will do fine outside his smash career. he has literally 1000s of people that love him and funnel him money every month. you don't lose that overnight.

hbox on the other hand is fucked when is job is given to robots 5 years from now.
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>>335387078
Asshole irl and constantly tries to get attention
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>>335387492
>NEETs think engineering jobs will be automated anytime in the next couple decades
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>>335387381
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So does anyone besides 12-year olds like mango as a personality?
I don't see anything pleasant in that manchild.
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>>335387078
I don't really mind his jigglypuff play but his character is awful. His commentary at the Summit and other tournaments is so forced. It's almost like he's a psychopath trying to mimic human emotion.
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>>335387609
HONK HONK
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>>335387390
>not addy laddy takes on addy daddy
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>>335387492
>>335387546
I'm a slow as fuck telephone engineer. So I ask - what is engineering? Is it humans making robots? So if robots will eventually take their jobs, why would they make them in the first place?
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people would like hbox 10x more if leffen was around and he was beating him

but every community needs a heel and since leffen is banned for tax evasion HBox is the fillin heel
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>>335387078
I want to believe it's just Jigglypuff. If Hbox played any other character no one would hate him as much as they do now.
If you mean outside of smash then he is a pretty shitty person.
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>>335387726
Do you know what AI-Complete/AI-Hard problems / strong AI is?

You need to solve those / create that to automate engineering / STEM jobs
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>>335387614
literally everyone loves mang0 in the smash community. hbox even said he wishes he was friends with him.
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>>335387614
He's pretty charismatic.
though his fanbase is legit the worst out of all the players
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>>335387759
The difference is that people enjoy watching Leffen. Hbox isn't a heel. He's always been the guy nobody likes to see winning.
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>>335387861
hbox only said that to get sympathy
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>>335387796
>every single other non-fox character everyone memeloves because it's not fox

>except jiggly, for some mysterious reason
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>>335387078
>>335387217
>>335387291
He's an overdramatic, passive agressive fuck who tries and acts like a victim during anything. He was salty as fuck after losing yesterday and RIGHT after he lost with Plup yesterday he asked Leffen to team with him on twitter and before this he didn't add Wobbles to his celebratory tweet after he punched a wall and when people called him out on it he linked a some guys comment on twitter and said he can't believe some people are this stupid and his fanboys downvoted the comment to hell and jerked off his ego saying waht a good person he is and how they love him like they always do.
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>>335387957
this sounds like a high school girl explaining the drama in her life honestly

why is everyone so insanely invested in the minor actions or inactions of players?
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>>335387854
I know none of those things. The concept of Hungrybox's side of engineering is completely beyond me. I literally thought there were 3 main things that go into such a profession:

The guys with the ideas
The guys that design the hardware
The guys that code the operating systems that control the hardware
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>>335387865
this
Not even Leffen's fanbase comes close to how bad it is
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>>335387957
you forgot that he didnt talk to a cashier that was on her phone that one time!!!
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Reminder that the only people who dislike mango are bitter losers who don't like mango's charismatic, outgoing personality because it reminds them of the popular kids in school who bullied or ignored them.
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>>335387078
He's a dick but he acts like he's the nicest guy ever. Also an attention whore.
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>>335387957
this is like 1/100th as bad as leffen, yet i bet you hate him basically just as much
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>>335388235
Leffen embraces the asshole moniker, hbox does shit like that and tries to act like the nice guy victim.
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>>335388180
The only thing I don't like about mango is that he doesn't keep his girl from spouting stupid shit.
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>>335388061
>>335388161
Because people like you act like he's done literally nothing wrong, I agree Mango was a dick to him in the past he's still a douche.
>>335388235
Leffen is atleast funny
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Reminder the only people who dislike Hbox are bitter NEETs and losers who don't like the fact that HBox is not only incredibly successful in smash but is basically the only player who has any future outside of the game. Plus he's by far the most normie of the gods and is east coast, whereas a lot of the fanbase is westcoast or mango fanboys
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>>335387954
Are Hbox fans this delusional? Characters like Falco, Marth, Falcon, Sheik, and Samus are 100 times more hype to watch than Puff who is essentially forcing the 20XX meta. Even Peach is more fun to watch because she can string combos together AND get comboed to death herself.
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>>335387078
>tfw when for years he's pretended to be unaffected by the hate he receives
>recently cracks and makes a video telling everyone how he really feels
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>>335388180
>if you don't like him you're just jealous

You're the exact reason why people don't like him.
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pewfat threw that game
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>>335388370
>Puff who is essentially forcing the 20XX meta
no, puff is pushing 666xx
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reminder that PewFat is overrated as fuck

can't have 2 chokers on one team
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>>335387957
are you talking about smash or gossip girl?
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>>335388358
or they just don't like watching him play or his personality
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>>335387957

>and RIGHT after he lost with Plup yesterday he asked Leffen to team with him on twitter

For a tournament that Plup isn't even at. If that somehows upsets you that's just silly.
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>>335388235
Leffen has done nothing wrong. redditors just think he's the bad guy because of the .zip meme.
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>>335388503
you're giving 4chan too much credit
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>>335388284
>>335388329
>It's okay when Leffen does it because Le Villian XD
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>>335388358
>Plus he's by far the most normie of the gods
That's actually armada desu, it just doesn't translate well to English.

Mango is more normie than hbox too but it's a sort of lower class, degenerate tier of normie.

Hbox is a fucking nerd man, his group of friends has always been full of weirdos and semi-outcasts.
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TOP KEK
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was that neccesary
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THE MAGIC IS BACK BABY
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The only break video to make me laugh through this event.
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people don't like hbox because he's the chad of smash
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M A G I C
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#STOPDREAMLANDCLAPPING2016
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>>335388592
This, hbox is a typical outsider, but if you're the best player of an e-sport, you're going to get massive attention thrown your way.
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>>335388689
mango is the chad of smash
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>>335388458
I don't know if you're memeing or not, but foxes like Armada and Leffen can still beat Hungrybox. Fox's peak is still ultimately higher than Puff's. If Jigglypuff mains got as good as Hungrybox, people will be forced to counter with nothing else but Fox, so that's 20XX.
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>>335388743
>degenerate burnt out washed up druggie califag
>chad
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>>335388689
>hbox
>the chad of smash

now I know the hbox "fans" in this thread are just shitposters
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>>335388719
>they don't even clap on beat
People fucking do this shit all the time. If you won't clap on beat then don't clap at all. Shit is agitating.
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>>335387957
>>335387957

PLUS!!! He only tipped the waitress like 12% !! He made like, 10,000 dollars at one of those tournies where he took first over mango (who for years said he was a faggot who deserved no respect) ! I mean only a 12% tip! What a major A-HOLE!!!!!!!
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Not surprised new /v/ likes hbox
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>>335388161
>>335388845
Yes I saw your comment the first time silly shitposting hbabby
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>>335388689
If anyone is a chad its probably Hugs or Alex19
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What happened in last night's mafia?
Did Toph get mafia again? he's a crafty motherfucker.
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>>335388807
THat's literally what a chad is m8
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Reminder that Leffen is going to destroy Hbox a week from now at EGLX and end 666XX, and hfat will go back to being the perennial 2nd place master.

i can't fucking wait.
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>>335389036
I can't hate what upsets the majority, 1 jigg vs an army of foxes is pretty funny
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>>335387078

He's a little bit a jerk sometimes to mango. And he is just a little bit awkward on the mic, but not awkward enough for it to be funny like M2K. And, most importantly, people fucking hate puff.
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>>335389043
No toph couldnt play mafia because last nights game was summit tourney players only. Mafia won again and Esam made the most stupid read based off of ghost box's notes.
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Does anyone know the name of that Sakura Theme remix with all the "TA" they used for intermission yesterday

Its been in my mind since then and searching youtube has wielded many good remixes but none of the ones

Please, I need this
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>>335389042
HugS is definitely the broest of Chads, hopefully I get to see him at my first major whenever that will be.
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If Hbox continues to win majors, do you think Puff will rise on the tier list?

5th is way too low, she's clearly better than Sheik and Marth, don't know about falco.
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>>335389089
All the Marth, Falco mains just sitting in the corner.
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>>335389041
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>>335389212
sup cherry
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>>335389260
I can't wait to see Mango's marth
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>>335389260
falco is dead
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>>335389232
There's a reason only Hbox has done so well with Puff.

In short, no.
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>>335389232
Seeing that she fucks anybody up who's not Fox, I honestly don't understand why she's not 2nd right now.
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>>335389232
She should be higher even right now. She has practically no bad matchups except the Fox one.
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>>335389047
>leffenfags
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>>335389345
and armada is the only peach to ever get top 8 let alone win majors.

she's still 6th.

the peak of a char >>>> the 'mean' of whatever mid-level fags do with it
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Is the stream fucking up for anyone else?
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>>335389232
No one will ever space as godly and consistently as Hbox so I doubt it
>>335389312
sup
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>>335389502
yup
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>>335389047
With all this visa shit EGLX is looking the the real Melee Superbowl instead of EVO, it just sucks that PPMD cant play.
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>>335389502

yea, huge frame drops
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>>335389502
yes
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PanicBasket
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>This is a top tier character
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>>335389502
I bet GimR did this
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>Hbox triggers the entire autist smash community just by participating.
>Somehow not literally our guy.
Reddit is calling.
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>>335389615
Hbox is the most reddit guy of them all.
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>>335389345
Yeah but you have to consider that very few players decide to main Jigglypuff.
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>>335389307
>league
>skype
>cookie clicker
>2 adblockers
>can't open paint to crop screenshot
nice one man
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>Stream lags
>someone says "who let gimr in charge"

Holy shit y'all are funny sometimes
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>>335389232
Fuck no. Sheik and marth are way better than puff. Hbox is the only player that can fuck shit up with her
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should I watch doubles or finally bother organizing my reaction images and gifs
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>>335389669
this.

he actually posts on reddit reguarly and is a huge berniecuck
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>>335389691
This is actually what we need. If more people got as good as Hungrybox with Puff or even somewhere close to his level, people would get more practice with Puff and would know how to deal with her. Right now, Abu is the only one and he loses to Armada's Game & Watch of all things.
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>wooow wobbling is so lame, rest is hella freaking epic!!!
Rest is a meme wobble.
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>Armada vs Hungrybox even in doubles
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>>335389232
> she's clearly better than Sheik and Marth
Haha get the fuck outta here,
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>>335389960
who ever said rest was hella freaking epic?
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>>335389960
rest is actually epic because it's
>not an insta-kill til 35%
>relatively hard to hit, compared to other strong moves like knee, tipper, etc.
>u literally explode off the screen

wobble is 30 seconds of time just pressing 2 buttons back and forth
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>>335390161
she beats both sheik and marth according to hbox

the only argument is fox destroys her, but who knows about that these days
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>the spic-infested hovel of norwalk
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>>335390183
You forgot that if Puff misses a rest, that's a lost stock or huge punish by the other player.
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>>335389960
Rest is high risk high reward.
Wobbling is easy to do and is a free stock.
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>>335389959
I agree. Still I don't see that happening because even if she is acknowledged as the second best character, the stigma that she is lame and stuff will not suddenly disappear, so not many people will be inclined to play her.
Or maybe hungrybox decides to play friendlies with other people, but that seems highly unlikely at this point.
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3-0 rape.
You liked that, Mango cocksuckers?
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>>335390284
I've talked to Hbox, and he said outside of Fox puffs two hardest matchups are Marth and Falcon and she losses both.

Hbox is just a better player than almost everyone else playing right now
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hbox just upair -> rested mango out of his firefox

that is fucking out of this world
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Aand team norwalk will now go back to being irrelevant af in teams
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>>335390506

>two hardest matchups are Marth and Falcon and she losses both.

well no marth or falcon would agree with that. even wizzy who thinks falcon has no really bad matchups (he says fox-falcon is bad but very doable) says the puff matchup is slightly in her favour.

marth-puff is probably even though.
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>>335390506
>Puff loses to Falcon

There is just no way this is true. All Puff needs to do is get Falcon off the edge once and he's basically dead. His recovery is already shit to begin with and against a character who can edgeguard perfectly there's no chance.
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>>335389959
G&W is low key really fucking good against Puff and Ice Climbers

QERB has taken games off Hbox and fucks up top icies
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>>335389206
Wasn't watching but is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxLAJqJVbcU
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>>335390702
He's pretty against Samus as well, right? I think QERB almost beat Hugs at Pound
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>>335387078
Only sheep and Mang0 dick riders hate him and spread weird lies about him.

I think it's ok to dislike his playstyle and to boo him during tournaments for the bantz, but hating him?. Also, Mang0 is the one who acts like an asshole to him.

>>335387515

#MANG0NATION is running wild
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>>335390702
Puff I can see but what is GW supposed to do against IC?
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>>335390660
>forgetting that fact that Falcon can land insane combos on floaties
Nigger go watch the falcon-puff crew battle from pound. Falcon definitely beats puff
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Mango salty af
https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/724336700164431872
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>>335390660
Falcon ground speed +Up air competes with puff in neutral extremely well.

He combos her to death better than fox and can space his aerials to make her life hell in neutral.

>He's dead once he's off stage

No shit genius, that applies to every character in the game against falcon. Good luck getting him off stage when he's heavy as shit and is out punishing you on a per stock basis on stage
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>>335390978
but i hate mang0 too
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>>335387078
The only thing that made me dislike hbox was him messaging prince abu and telling him not to practice against leffen at EVO
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>>335390848
Thank you so, so much, anon.
Have a blessed day, you're the guy.
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>>335391042
lel a legitimate salt tweet from mango, that's a bit rare
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>>335391042
>gets 3-0d
>"w-we're better than them anyway"
lel
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>>335387614
Hes just chill most of the time, so most people like him. Is the kind of guy everybody likes in school.

>>335387942
Hbox can't do a single thing without people going out shitting on him.
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>>335390995
His down tilt auto separates them and completely nullifies ground approaches and ice blocks.

His down air fucks up sheilding and will almost always hit nana since hit hits twice and is safe on her sheild

His jab is fast as fuck and interrupts wavedash in grabs then auto sets up for dtilt

His nair is absolutely absurd. You can just into ice climbers off stage, press a, and they will die every time.

His fair outranges marth's sword and he's a god tier platform camper against icies

Bucket ice blocks for a free kill if they're stupid enough to fill

I've heard qerb say its solidly in G&W's favor and I know a lot of icies who hate the mu
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>>335388845
You basically summed up all the Hbox hatters.

>>335391107
I wanted to link this guy
>>335387957
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>>335391042
>mango actually showing that he's salty

Is this the end?
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>>335391042
Hbox is in Mango's head. Rape in singles incoming
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lol m2k
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>>335391042
>Mang0
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>>335391235
if you think that's legitimate salt you're most likely autistic. just playful/confident banter if anything. you always have to believe you're the best.
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TRIPLE
REST

MY BOY HBOX
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fug
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>>335391775
Get the fuck out of here, tool.
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>>335389889

Isn't Hbox a non US citizen?
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>>335392157
what.. nigger's lived in florida his whole life
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>Fox doesn't have range or surviveability
Kill this couch.
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serious question: why is mango trash now?

I like him and he's probably my favorite to watch, but he just gets bodied by nobodies now, and he's just not a competitive presence. does he just not practice anymore?
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>>335391985
autism
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m2k literally just saved that game
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>>335392305
Fox does not have range though.
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>>335392305
they're specifically talking about teams. fox loses stocks incredibly quick and can't laser as much
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>>335392157
>>335392235
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>>335392348
he's a meme streamer now, he only plays melee right before big tournaments
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>>335392305
range part is true
Fox having no surviveability is bullshit though
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I just want m2k to be happy
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>>335392535
feel the bern
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hbox makes this game feel like brawl. he is campy and slow
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>>335392569
>>335392305
Didn't he say that other characters have BETTER surviveability? This is obviously true for Samus, Peach, and Puff.
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>>335392535
>go out and vote! don't abstain! every voice matters and this election is massive

Jesus christ
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>hbox is >white

ohhhh
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hbox needs to throw out some rests
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>>335392631
euuuuuughh
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>>335392631
please dont post this
i hate this shit, so disgusting
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>>335392535
>Still haven't gotten around to it
I kind of feel bad but at the same time I dislike most people running
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>>335392631
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>>335386771
>Californians rooting for the best person in their state
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>>335392494
>>335392510
>>335392569
Yea I will agree with you guys on range, but the surviveability of Fox is amazing especially with a teammate backing him.

>>335392764
>all the floaties have better survivability
Well yeah
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>>335392764
>>335392569
Survivability is not the same as recovery. Unless you're saying fox can take a shitton of hits.
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>>335392850
fat Mami ass
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SWEDEN YES
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KEK they talked about why M2K threw hbopx instead of going for the usmash I am 100% sure
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fuck this it. I wanted plupbox to win.
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>>335392631
Delete this
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thank the lord, hbox deserves nothing
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M2k looking hella good that set. Goddamn.
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Glad m2k/armada won, I want m2k to be feeling good for singles
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>Armada's hair
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>armada laser camping in teams

fuck this swedecuck
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based happy2king for singles is going to sweep
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>hbox lost

And all was right with the world.
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>>335392904

just pick the person you hate the least. If you can vote and don't, you don't have any right to complain.

also for fucks sake do your research don't just go along with what people tell you.
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>>335393227
explain why
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lol m
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>>335393403
i frequent reddit
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>>335393403
underdogs, puff in teams is incredible to watch, hbox is my guy, armada is a balding boring cuck
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>jiggs is winning despite her worst matchup in the game is most prevalent
>falcon is bad and not viable because of fox just pick fox xD

someone explain this meme
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>armada vs m2k
i don't want to watch bros
it's too brutal
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>>335393508
>hbox is my guy
explain why
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>>335393574
fox punishes falcon way harder.

you can't zero-to-death puff, gotta win like 5 exchanges in neutral.
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>>335393593
Poor m2k
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calves
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>>335393574
There is one top player dedicated to Puff and 0 to Falcon
there you go
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>>335393508
>puff in teams is incredible to watch, hbox is my guy

Puff in teams is fucking boring as shit,

Rests with no risk if you have a semi competent partner and invalidates edgeguarding

Puff fans are fucking cancer
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>>335393687
falcon punishes fox hard as fuck too

literally can kill fox with one grab
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that skit was deep
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>>335393762
Peach in teams is the best.
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THAT WAS THE BEST ONE

HOLY SHIT
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Tafoautism
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>Plup's going to win this tournament
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Ice is our guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4jn1TnxN5c&feature=youtu.be
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>>335393574
You see if someone does not know the Falcon matchup, the fact that he is a fastfaller means punishing him is heavily similar to punishing Fox or Falco (matchups that are usually well known).
If someone does not know the Jigglypuff matchup, that guy is just fucked. It also doesn't help, that there are way more CF players than Puffs.
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>>335393762
triggered
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Poor SFAT
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>>335393750
every time I look at Alex, I think he's wearing his pants around his ankles.
The hem of his socks line up with the chair upholstery
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>>335393921
>Ice
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>>335393508
>hbox is my guy
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>>335393574
>>335393574

fox > jiggs >> falcon

there is obviously more to it than that, but falcon is just so much worse off in his bad matches.

Jiggs is bad because she dies to the rush down (but she has great counter punishes) falcon is bad for the same reasons (also has good punishes) but falcon can be GIMPED really, really badly
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>>335393790
not if the fox gets his techs. lets face it man, falcon is not that good and will never win a major. he gets zero-to-deathed by literally every char
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>>335393451
MOOOODS
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>>335394076
>hbox is my guy

Welcome Reddit!
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>>335394101
>Jiggs is bad because she dies to the rush down
That's why Mango has been winning and Armada/Leffen been losing right?
oh wait
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>>335393790
Unless you can react to tech in place shine (which is unreactable if we are talking about non-anticipation-reaction) you have to do a few unreliable reads in order to get him out of cc percentage. Jigglypuff does have a reliable flowchart punish on Fox, which is always better.
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>>335394146
He does good against peach and even against marth
>B-but look at this sick friendlies vod where armada btfo a random unranked falcon
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frienly reminder that BRAINGEAR is a ripoff

just buy nootropics instead
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>>335388180
no, there are also people who dislike him just to be contrarian for the attention
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Just curious, with all the opinions about gameplay and matchups here, how many of you actually play Melee at a mid/high level and actually know what the fuck you're talking about?
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>>335394472
How about just eat healthy and get good sleep instead?
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>>335394472
I just assume all supplements are bullshit scams
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>>335394327
>even against marth

man if you have ever played marth vs a decent falcon you know that shit is not even

its 55/60 in falcons favor for sure
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>>335394024
Dude I thought the exact tsame thing. Damn nigga
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>>335394545
I mostly play PM at a decent level and watch Melee but this is my first post in the thread
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>>335394545
No one here. I can guarantee
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>>335394545
no one
if you're a good player you already know where to go for real mechanics discussion
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>>335394545
do i have to be in the NBA to talk about basketball strategy with friends?

it's the same shit with melee. none of us are high-level players but you can still understand the fundamentals of what makes characters work, why certain matchups are difficult, why some players struggle with particular matchups, etc.
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>>335380038
You're just a faggot that doesn't appreciate when someone is better when they put in work.
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>>335394545
I am top 3 in my region.
I played Mahie the other day and he said he thought he was playing against Ice for a bit.
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>>335394595
yes this is better, although some of the ingredients would have to be supplemented
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>>335394545
Does getting fucked up on netplay count as playing at a mid/high level
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>>335394750
>That image
It hurts
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>>335394615
>Retards in charge of math
Marths sword range is too good, falcon can be edgeguarded pretty well
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>>335388180
Mango seems like a cool guy, but his fans are a bunch of faggots. It makes me dislike him, which isn't fair I know, but I can't help cheer against him when everyone sucks his dick
>>
>>335394545
You're retarded queer. Not being a 1st placer doesn't mean you can't know what you're talking about.

I bet majority of us know a lot, we watch Melee tourneys on the reg.
>>
>>335394545
I beat armada's drunk marth with my kirby, does that count?
>>
>>335394545
Even Scar doesn't really play anymore, but he's one of the better casters.

It's like starcraft. you can learn by exclusively watching.
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>>335394529
>not liking Mang0 makes me either a jealous hater or a contrarian
His fanbase really is shit
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>>335394980
Holy shit are you the guy who beat The Crimson Blur the greatest Marth player in the world
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>>335394545
I agree with >>335394740 and >>335394910
but this will always be relevant
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>>335394545
I'm actually on the MIOM top 100 (albeit on the back-end). AMA
>>
>>335394545
you don't have to be a shitter to have bad opinions
plenty of top players have retarded matchup charts too
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>>335384107
>Why they were on for top 8 at Genesis I will never know
Go watch something other than the documentary kid.
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>>335395053
>As a Peach main, I
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>>335395074
Proofs
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>>335394545

Is there an objective way to define "mid" or "high" level?

I would say that a decent number of people in this thread actually agree on almost everything matchup wise - its just text making communication hard.

That said, I'm definitely a low level shitter who watches melee a lot. I feel like I have a strong grasp of the game (on paper).
>>
>>335395074
At least you can talk. Who are you ?
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>>335394545
I'm top 10 in my city, though unless you're close to top 100 I don't think anyone truly knows this game well enough to give deep insight unless they specialize melee knowledge (kadano)
>>
Our Fucking Guy Hungrybox on commentary.. is this a dream come true?
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>>335395074
Whats your rank?
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>>335395025
>It's like starcraft. you can learn by exclusively watching.

Tasteless was (is) a counterexample. He seemed so lost and he needed Artosis to bail him out. Artosis was master level, good but not greath
>>
>>335395074
Go back to your practice with Armada, Abu
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>>335384107
homemadewobbles is the greatest commentator duo of all time
>>
>>335395074
name
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>>335395053
>KoF
>harder than Smash
>Bullshit.
That one is too good
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>>335395210
how the fuck is hbox our guy
you sad hbox fans are so desperate and delusional
>>
>>335395053
oh jeezus

and anyone not in /v/ smash threads on 4chan says 'play a real fighting game'
>>
>>335395074
why not post proof?
>>
>>335395053
What's wrong with being a peach main?

Fuck you dumb spacie shitters, i'll go off stage and slap the shit out of you.
>>
>>335395312
This desu, our guys are M2K, Smoke 2 Jointz and HMW
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>>335395312
>mango fans THIS mad that our literal guy hbox keeps beating him
>>
>Want to cheer for DAJUAN ENERGY MCDANIEL
>Like Weshballz too

:(
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>yfw leffen is reading these threads
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>>335394872
I mean 55-60 in falcons favor so it would be 55-45 or 60-40

I think this because marth needs spacing to succeed. falcon is the fastest character in the game. any falcon worth a damn knows how to dash dance around marth's big ass sword, and then punish marth's lag on his moves. mistimed fade back nair, forward smash, or down tilt = knee to the face. marth also has a really good punish game on falcon but marth has to grab him, and its harder to grab a faster character than slower one.

the reason why i bring up playing marth vs a good falcon is because you will feel suffocated and stuffed all the time, you're going to feel like you're swatting at a really fast fly in the air with your sword. if you hit it, you might kill it. but if you miss, you get rekt.

its only slighty in falcons favor because marth can in theory with good timing wall falcon out with fairs and stuff falcon's approaches with down/forward tilts and tech chase, and then make it really hard for him to get it back. if falcon could sweetspot/had better recovery it would be 65+
>>
LOW ENERGY
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>>335395312
>I just watched the documentary and this is the only guy i recognise that doesn't have severe autism
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>>335395394
you forgot weston and wobbles
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>>335395212
81

>>335395258
Abu is a meme player.
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>>335395404
>Liking Westballz
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>>335395432
Leffen is you're reading this shit please come back and beat the shit out of hbox
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>>335395394
Wobbles literally used to come here
Leffen went on /a/
they are our guys
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>>335395394
>Meme2J
fuck off
Bad players are not our guys
>>
>>335395517
>81
almost got me
>>
>>335395517
>81
Nice one
>>
hi im leffen
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>>335395404
Dajuan will be entertaining if he loses.
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>>335395443
You're fucking autistic
>>
>>335395601
How many wins do you have against S2J?
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>>335395776
I'm autistic because I'm just trying to prove my point and back it up? mmk
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>>335395394
mang0 shat on Leddit

he's literally our guy
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>>335395601
t. /v/ shitters who doesn't make it out of pools at his locals
>>
>>335395807
>you can't make disparaging comments unless you personally beat them/produce better content than them
>>
>Cool, Well Adjusted, Adult Tier
Falco
Marth
Falcon

>Average, casual tier
Fox
Peach

>Degenerate, grime tier
Ice Climbers
Sheik

>Bitch, autistic tier
Jigglypuff
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>>335395517
>ESAM posts on /v/
it all makes sense now
>>
>>335395807
I consistently 3-0 with my Sheik
>>
>>335395972
all the top players shit on leddit. they are somehow more toxic than us (mainly because they're more popular, but still).
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>>335396120
>toxic
"edgy Redditor thinking he's hot shit going to vee" detected
>>
>>335396019
I hope you're ready for Plup to 3-0 rape your buttbuddy again
>>
>>335395972
Mang0 would shit on us too

>>335396062
>Call S2J a bad player
>Well if he's so bad then you can beat him right?
>S-shut up

>>335396094
Get back to practice Plup
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>>335396120
>toxic
stop posting anytime
>>
>>335387078
Hes pseudo humble fuck face. I asked him for a picture at evo and he ignored me
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>>335381526
starting for this commentary
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>>335396234
>getting triggered by a single word that easily

pottery
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>>335396120
>toxic
hahahahahaha look at this faggot what the fuck
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2 years in paint
>>
Just got here, what singles matches were played before West vs Shroomed?
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>>335396209
I don't care about you and that guy disagreeing about the skill level of S2J, I'm just tired as fuck as people dismissing criticism of stuff with shit like, "Let's see you make a better movie."
>>
>>335396460
i think this was the first
>>
>>335396460
none, good timing famaladingdong
>>
>>335396460
This is the first set today
>>
>>335396120
>toxic
>using "us" unironically
you're so leddit it hurts
>>
who won doubles?
>>
>>335396592
Balding Boys
>>
>>335396568
nope, only go for porn. but enjoy hating a site that you of course never even visit so you have no idea what happens on it.
>>
>>335396592
Arma2King over Plubox
>>
>>335396592
robots
>>
>>335396437
I love hbox's, 10/10
>>
>>335396531
>>335396532
>>335396553
oh damn
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>it's a "hungrybox commentary" episode
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>>335396592
Armada2k
>>
>>335396680
>pretending not to browse Leddit while whiteknighting it like a bitch
holy shit you're an embarrassment
>>
>>335396120
>toxic
Please put a trigger warning in the name area
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If I played Roy in PM, should I play Falco or Falcon?
>>
>it's a Westballz on yoshi's episode
>>
is m2k so autistic he can't commentate or what
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>>335396785
>>335396740
>>335396682
>>335396625
thanks, fampai
>>
>>335396896
Roy.
>>
>>335396896
why those 2?

play fox if you want to win
>>
>>335396896
Falco if you to make it anywhere in life.
>>
>>335396896
you should play __Fox__
>>
finals bo5 or bo7?
>>
>>335396923
He would rather practice/play more. Its the reason why he wasnt here for "god commentary".
>>
>>335396896
What's with that kingdom hearts looking ass sword?
>>
>>335396437
>mango
DELETE THIS
>>
>>335396923
they'll all probably commentate the losers side at some point
>>
>>335397038
bo5

bo7 is pretty much exclusively reserved for money matches
>>
>>335397038
5
>>
>>335397048
>only friendly high tier smash tourney
>doesn't want to commentate or socialize
but why
>>
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Reminder that Hbox is a cancer to the game and his father literally died for being too fat
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>>335397000
trips pls

>>335397006
Because Roy is a combo heavy character and Falcon/Falco look like combo heavy characters

>>335397034
ok

>>335397036
I don't like Fox

>>335397081
It's based on this
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>>335397123
>no extra rounds for grand finals
anyone want to explain why
>>
>>335396923
he's practicing.

for some reason people are taking this tourney way more seirously than last time it seems.
>>
>>335396923
m2k's commentary is basically
>what happened
>what would have been optimal
>>
I just realized something: ESAM hasn't been on the mic yet

guess that's why this has been such a chill stream, if only Hungrymeme fucked off
>>
>>335397258
Grand Finals is potentially 2 sets
>>
>>335397147
How should I know? M2K is being M2K, he didnt even want to participate in mafia and only played last night because he had to.
>>
>>335397285
ESAM got kicked out last night for ruining mafia.
>>
>>335396437
goat taste
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>Westballz
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>>335397285
same
>>
WHERE MY E N E R G Y BOYZ AT
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>>335396896
>>335397218
>Awakening Roy
>>
>it's a westballz embarrasses himself episode

why do we love this memer again?
>>
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>mfw last night's mafia
>tfw no encore
>>
>>335397431
I'M
>>
fuck dajuan lol, sheik is so boring to watch
>>
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What's with all the SD's?
>>
>>335397335
what

oh righht lmao you fighting guys use this stupid meme deja-vu reset everything instead of just doing BO7 with 1 game advantage

why the fuck

don't say "because if they lose they'd be in losers not eliminated" either
>>
>>335397384
>not listening enough to other people to realize that GG was a clue in itself
>being so egocentric that he assumes everyone knows the name of Rivals of Aether characters

the Kragg "read" was the perfect embodiment of ESAM and why he's so fucking insufferable
>>
>>335397565
DAJUAN
>>
westballz fox is always fun to watch even if he gets fucked up every time
>>
;______;
>>
>WESTBALLZ
lamo
>>
>>335397668
what other game plays bo7 grand finals?
>>
>>335397531
>HBox being a ghost
That shit was so dumb and Mang0 almost saved the game by being Mang0

>>335397649
Westballz is overrated as fuck and always will be, he tries to style rather than win
>>
FULL TILT
>>
fucking westballz dude

its always an adventure
>>
WESTON
DENNIS
>>
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>>335397649
first time watching westballz?
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>WESTBALLZ
>>
new

>>335397780
>>
>>335397769
top tier esports
>>
Westballz is a fucking retard
>>
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SoCal has a Shiek problem
>>
>>335397782
>he tries to style rather than win
you're saying that as if it's bad
>>
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>>335397805
>>335397782
>>
>shitballs
>>
>>335397258
There's only 6 legal stages, it would be weird if they were forced to play on a stage twice in a single set.

>>335397668
What the fuck is the point of winning every match on the way to grand finals if some fucking jabroni you just beat in winners finals can just bop you once and win the whole tournament with a 50/50 win record against you that tournament?
>>
>>335397649
Get used to them. Ice is playing soon
>>
>>335397649
Spacie players SD all the goddamn time, get used to it because it's actually awful. Sets are lost because of one SD
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When is Ice getting a sponsorship from Braingear?
>>
Braingear isn't so performance enhancing? are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a product with such an ability to sell out to smashers? Braingear puts the drug game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a drug with its ability to #makeitbrain. You can keep your addy. i prefer the braingear.
>>
Ice choking as usual.
Not like this...
>>
Why call it braingear? It sounds like something you wear
>>
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BRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEARBRAINGEAR
>>
LMAO ICE
>>
BRAIN GEAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>
>>335399258
>BRAINGEAR TAKIN' EFFECT
>*wheeze* BRAIN *wheeze* GEAR
>I get payed every time I mention it, right?
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