Dark Soulz 3 Meta = r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 (accidental kick) r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
Everyones saying Darksouls 3 has the best PvP, but it doesn't. It has the best matchmaking. Everything else is a shit show so far...
>>335342119
>Implying you were around for the dual longsword R1/L1 spam of DSII
Congratulations on correctly identifying the attack button
R1 shitter gets mas he cant beat other r1 shitters.
Tip: try lucerne or maceand learn to use its 2handed L1 and L2
>>335342119
you want more cancer?
raw eztoc +10 and great magic shield spell on shield of want +5
r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
*roll to cast spell again*
r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
*roll to cast spell again*
r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
*roll to cast spell again*
r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
*roll to cast spell again*
r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
*roll to cast spell again*
>>335342119
>(accidental kick)
How do I kick anyway?
>>335342412
exactly
>>335342119
Parry, Riposte.
Free win. Next.
>>335342249
It's not that I don't know how you're supposed to deal with that shit. But the delay is so fucking bad it's impossible to respond to anything appropriately.
When are these alt-F4ing hosts going to be fucking banned?
>>335342467
Oh sure, parrying is real reliable. Tell me more.
r1 spam is still better than backstab fishing in the first game where using regular attacks was completely pointless and made you vulnerable to backstabs. I dropped the second game so can't say much about pvp in it but I am pretty sure it was shit like everything else there.
>>335342412
Tap forward and hit R1
>>335342289
I refuse to use that cancerous weapon.
naw for me right now it's hover host with hover phantoms when invading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7yr-fh4Cr0
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FROMSOFT FIX YOUR SHIT
>>335342567
>Tell me more.
Ok.Git gud.
>>335342584
That backstab fishing you're referring to was considered to be the highpoint of dark souls meta.
>Implying that's even the problem
I invade someone for covenants shenanigans it's three dudes waiting for me
I try to do the blue covenant(s) I don't get pulled in to help
this game is suffering
>>335342584
>>335342687
>>335342706
And now a good majority of weapons swing in wide arcs, meaning that you frequently get interrupted trying to perform a backstab by your opponent swinging FORWARD.
>>335342119
>Dark Soulz 3 Meta = r1-
Parry
Riposte
Next cuck in line, please.
>>335342119
>retards try this
>pull out sellsword twinblades and dual wield
>wait for them to try blocking
>l1 spam them to stamina break and take out their entire health in one spinslash combo
get fucking good scrub
>>335342770
I've had 0 matchmaking problems. I get 1v1s, big matches, and summoned to stop invaders all the time. It's the bull feces that endues after that's bothering me.
>use spear
>want to 2 hand it
>no way to parry if im 2 handing
FUCKING BULLSHIT.
>Using a weapon with a weapon art that punishes panic rolling
SO GOOD
>use katana
>spam running attack
>collect free ember
>>335342840
>still fishing for fucking backstabs
>complains about r1 swordspam
Yeah, you fit about all of the criteria for the genuine no-skill whiny-bitch shitter that makes worthless complaints like this.
Git
Gud
I've been only using my favourite polearm, the lucerne, for my quality build. I am so torn on my sidearm, as I really need fast weapons for the peskier enemies, but I don't know what, I'm also upgrading the pike, since I love that weapon as well, so preferable be something that has thrusting damage.
I used a rapier on my first character (and I had no idea it was so good, still don't think it hold a candle to the estoc), and the straight swords are neat with their stances, but people complain that they are good, so I dunno. Don't like the weapon art for mace, axe, war pick.
I really dunno.
Also, that lucerne weapon art +heavy attack, running light attack, backstep light attack. So sexy
>>335342958
get parried when someone knows how to play. Katana running attack is easiest shit to parry.
>>335342862
You can't parry reliably in this game unlike the previous ones at least not on PC. They somehow fucked up the PC version netcode and parrying became almost impossible unlike on PS4.
I would say parrying in this game is like flipping a coin, if you are lucky you win otherwise you get two-shotted by a triple-buffed estoc.
>>335342898
Why would you even bother doing that when you can accomplish the exact same thing with most swords with r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 (accidental kick)r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1
Did backstabing get harder to pull off? I can't ever seem to get any backstabs now
>>335343117
spot the shitter who does not know how to parry.
>>335342412
>people with their guard broken can be riposted
>kicking is the easiest way to do this to shieldfags
was this always a thing or just in DS3
>>335342958
>invaded uchifaggot after Pontiff
>he tries to spam the running attack but whiffs it every time
>parry him
>alt F4's during the riposte
>immediately invites me to like 20 post-rekt salt groups like 'You're a scrub who needs to git gud'
I'm not even mad, the platinum mad from baddies is a better reward than any item.
>>335342119
>allowing r1 shitters to get close
>>335342929
what were you expecting to do with a 2 handed polearm
>>335342978
Care to try that verbal diarrhea again? No idea what you said.
>>335343204
Once you meet a guy with upgraded greatshield and 40 stamina you will realize that even kicks don't do shit.
>>335342535
Soon, once their disconnect score hits a threshhold its softbun time
if they keep doing it they're perma banned from everything but getting invaded, I think in 2 this same system actually prioritized people under this penalty for invades so they'd get shit on even more.
>>335343270
Dark Sword outranges halberds.
Nice try, though.
>>335343153
Niggers can walk away from your backstab now. It's an actual move, doesn't automatically lock targets in until it lands.
No more instant backstabs during a rolling parade.
>>335343493
I think I've seen that. Using a great axe I find myself doing the horizontal chop like a riposte with it, but it whiffs. I figured I was doing a movement sensitive attack but I wasn't sure.
>>335343117
No, it's still like that on PS4 dude. That's what I'm talking about. You cannot parry consistently. The timing is too precise when you consider the delay the game has, which is bad if you pay attention, worse than Bloodborne in my opinion. Most of the people saying, parry get good, are probably r1 shitters themselves. Actually try consistently parrying guys. It fucking sucks.
>>335343493
>Dueling some guy
>I run off when he gets around behind me
>He does the greataxe backstab animation but I'm not there
>Turn around and get the last hit while he's utterly helpless to stop me
It's so good, man.
>>335342671
>Dark Sword
Disliked and flagged for supporting terrorism.
merc, thief or ass for my dex build?
>>335343356
Yeah, its pretty broken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOUNx387aM
>>335343731
Ass for early estoc
>>335343731
Warrior, then kill the nudist for his Uchi.
chess meta = pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece, pick up piece, place piece
>>335343356
>>335343867
Even with horse ring?
>>335342119
You need a lot more accidental kicks in there, 90% of combat is that shit, PvP and otherwise it's hilarious at this point rather than frustrating, especially when I see other people doing it too and realize it's not just me.
My only issue is faggots who invade me, see that I fight fair without summons, yet still heal and shield themselves with enemies.
>>335343951
It probably helps, but it will still probably take 2-3 kicks to guard-break Havels Shield +5.
I heard there's a shield with even better stability, but I don't know which one it is.
>>335343951
Dedicating a ring slot to kicking people with greatshields who would likely just spam their dank sword when you get in range anyway.
No one would do this.
>>335343403
I've been shoving my halberd up their asses all day, so it's not helping much.
What's the best starting class for a luck/faith build? Deprived?
I thought thief first but it puts too much in dex and too little in faith as far I see.
why are greatswords so shit, lads?
>>335344057
It's probably the Greatshield of glory or some shit
But that shield slows down stamina regen so
>>335343867
Why does every faggot ever use the Carthus milkring
>>335344060
I would though, there's always a chance. But this guy>>335344057 probably right that it'll take 2-3 kicks.
>>335344114
Deprived is dank for almost any build, granted you can deal with the tougher intro.
>>335344048
It's an invasion, not a duel.
They have one objective: Live longer than you
Also healing gives you the advantage, you should have twice as many Estus as they do.
>>335344151
Because it's also broken, you should try it.
I wear it but I don't roll spam normally, unless I see the other guy with a dank sword or estoc, then I spend the next hour plus, or however long it takes them to alt f4, rolling around in circles completely invincible while these retards chases me desperately trying to get a hit in.
>>335344151
Because it makes you borderline invincible while spam rolling
No joke, the problem with Straight Swords is that, they're like a jab punch in boxing that does the same damage as a hook(halberds/axe/maces), uppercut(curved/greatswords), or haymakers(ultra greatswords).
It stuns every time even if you don't hit the chin of the opponent.
besidess +1 rings what's ng+ offer, so far i'm not noticing a difference, i'm at sl50 the level I finished ng with and now on ng++ and it's as easy as it was on ng
what is this casual garbage i'm playing?
so is ng and ng+...+ connected?
>>335343403
Thanks for admitting you are shit
>>335344114
Deprived is good if you feel like you'll respect later on. If you actually have a solid idea of what you want to be, there are better options.
>>335344048
As much of a proponent of the whole "fair 1v1 duels" thing as I am, invasions are fair game for anything desu. Especially in the current type of matchmaking, where its usually a 1v2 at least.
>>335344245
>>335344253
He said milkring, not bloodring, you stupid faggots
>>335344127
since i finished the game and started NG+ i didn't lose a single pvp, even 1v3 1v2 with my GS
>>335344348
I know what he said you shit eating retard
The rings work in conjunction
Dont correct people when you dont know what the fuck you're talking about
>>335344290
yes
>>335344348
Whoops.
>>335344403
Bad damage control, why would you even try?
>>335344403
>The rings work in conjunction
No they don't, you cockmongling asshole. They're often used together but the effects are not enhanced by having both equipped.
>>335343204
>kicking is the easiest way to do this to shieldfags
Sword arts, man. They can hit from further away and no one ever sees it coming; i see all these straight sword retards but they don't understand how strong their weapon arts are.
>>335343204
>Walk up to shieldfag
>They see that I am not attacking and hit me before I can kick
>Roll away, come back and try to kick again
>They see that I am not attacking and hit me before I can kick
Ad
Fucking
Infinitum
>>335344245
>>335344253
The Milk Ring needs a nerf, or something.
Blood ring comes with the stipulation of making you take more damage while the Milk ring comes with no negative effect whatsoever for its advantage.
When it should do something like substantially increase the cost of rolls to discourage spam rolling.
>>335345236
>Makes you invisible
>Raises dex by 3
>FROM NERF NOW
What? If you're not retarded you should be able to deal with not being able to see them for half a second.
>>335345346
its only a +2 to dex for me
>walk into Irithyll
>suddenly a crocodile dog thing out of fucking nowhere
And I mean literally out of nowhere, it doesn't drop from anywhere, it spawns out of thin air
>>335345550
Pics or it didn't happen
>It has the best matchmaking
How?
>Connection Error
>Connection Error
>3v1
>Connection Error
>one guy who has no idea what he's doing and tries to block everything with his shield.
>Connection Error
>Connection Error
>3v1
Sure is fun.I just want some tongues
Maybe untended graves isn't the best location for invading.
What's a good spot for around sl70?
>>335345608
It's a summon by the boss.
>>335345649
cant do pics atm but i saw like an hour ago it raised my dex from 37 to 39
>>335345608
I thought it dropped from the gate, but I didn't look back while I was walking down the bridge.
Only heard a noise and then that thing stood there
>>335342671
I'm feelin' it
>>335345729
Yeah if you look behind while crossing the bridge it phases into existence
>>335345608
Hated that too, amateur game and enemy design that actually triggered me, that shit belongs in DS2.
>>335345754
Sorry to say but I find sliders hilarious because it looks so dumb
>>335342119
why play a Zelda-like adventure game expecting a complex combat system
>>335345865
>zelda like adventure game
get the fuuuuck outta here
>>335345948
but that's all Souls games are, in the good way
>>335345948
What was wrong with his statement?
>>335345967
>>335346081
In what fucking way are dark souls and zelda games comparable at ALL apart from the fact that you kill stuff and progress to the next level in both of them
It's a REALLY shit comparison.
>Playing pvp in a dark souls game without poise
lol
in b4 retards who don't know the difference between hyper armor and poise
>>335346160
There is no relevant distinguishing factor. Any time you would have needed poise, you should be exploiting hyper armor.
>>335342687
I've been trying but they always fuck up parry in every God damn game so I have to relearn the timing for everything
>>335346143
lock on circle strafe combat with attack attack attack combat with the occasional shield block and backflip/roll away.
The combat is literally the same. Zelda has better designed dungeons and platforming.
Dark Souls has more intense dungeon crawling and spookier atmosphere.
>>335343646
This
>consistently parry in PvE
>know excactly when and where I fucked up if the hit connects
>PvP
>Parry animation timed perfectly with their swing
>It goes through and hits me
This happens 50% of the time. Parrying is unreliable as fuck in PvP.
>>335342671
>summon a phantom for second try on Dancer
>he does this shit and promptly makes boss just follow him without it attacking ever
well that was easy
>>335343153
Backstabs with big weapons seem like a trap. The one handed swing you perform is way too slow to hit anything ever that isn't idle.
Atleast daggers are pretty reliable tho. Greathammers are free stabs, ultra swords, axes and spears a little harder, but they have many unsafe moves. Katanas and small swords are annoying since they swing all over the place all the time, but if they are retarded enough to use weapon arts in close range, you can usually punish it with a stab.
Hyperarmor only poise really makes it that you can't just walk up and stab, you need to rely on rolling just the right distance.
>>335345658
There seems like the dungeon is getting some love lately, I like invading in the demon ruins too, but its just too easy sometimes.
>>335346369
>The combat is literally the same
maybe to someone with a simple mind
>accidental kick
So it's not only me, what the fuck is the matter with the controls?
>It's a "Host and 3 phantoms all R1 you to death with Dark Swords" episode
Kill yourself retard
>>335346771
Why are you replying to me like it's a bad thing?
I enjoy Zelda and Souls combat.
>>335345658
Get a red soapstone if you are not good at handling a ganking party and go to a fightclub ( at s70 would I recommend the balcony after the pontif fight).
>People just say to parry
>Even though the parry detection is based on their end, not yours
>Meaning it can be completely random when to parry depending on latency
And that's why parrying in PVP is completely shit, it needs to be an overruling action based on the person trying to parry.
>>335345658
>untended graves
You dumbass, you get a connection error because they walk through the fog door when you're connecting to their world.
Everyone says the Estoc and Darksword are meme weapons and that they are too op. Nigger if you can't defeat any of them you are nothing else but a shitter.
Literally git gud, all you have to do is parry or use a spear and you win.
Now to what's actually disgusting. Katanafags in their fallen knight armor or some other edgy trenchcoat set piece. They do the fucking quiet resolve emote whenever they win while walking away from my corpse. Can you be more of an edgelord/cringelord?
>Mage build
>Hosts literally just chugging through my attacks because I don't do enough damage
Anyone know if anything special happens if you get to darklink shrine before fighting vordt? Someone was going to try it but I had to leave before they could try it out.
>>335347068
Try not losing then?
>>335347068
They literally do it because it triggers you.
Easier hatemail bait
haven't seen anybody say it has the best pvp, it is probably even worse than demon's souls.
>>335347131
With what? Farron dart? GHSA does like 500 damage already on my incomplete int build.
>>335347131
Chugging is super ridiculous, you can literally backroll and chug after every hit and not die, and there is no way to punish it
>>335347256
500 damage is not enough when they have 1500 HP and Estus for 800
>>335347131
>go cleric since miracles are the only thing I've never used
>end up with pyromancy and sorcery before I ever fucking see an offensive miracle
>they're both pretty shit for damage
>finally find lightning spear after revisiting places
>HERE WE GO
>smash that fuckin' faith button
>80 damage to knights in irithyl
cool
>>335347162
You can't win every fight anon. It usually ends up with them parrying me with their weapon arts parry or they just keep being fuckwits rolling around + stab the entire fight.
>>335347185
I suppose you're right. I've been trying to be an asshole whenever I win but I get no comments or random friend requests. It was fun to play DaS and get that xbox live message, then you truly know you succeeded.
>>335347285
>no way to punish it
>they chug
>throw Lloyds
>estus animation is long enough where they literally CANNOT avoid it
So fucking hard
>in b4 I cant catch them when they just run
Running attacks > Running players
It's pretty great how turning to run just makes you eat hits in the back
Hey so what's the deal with the humanity function in this game? my character seems to be getting more hollow as time progresses and the lil' stone thing by the health bar is getting more cracked. what gives?
>not being a pure caster build and using pyromancies, sorceries, and miracles to fuck shit up
Also where the fuck are hexes, that was the only good thing to come out of the shit that was daso 2
Even though they were also in daso 1
>>335347436
And what is stopping them from running away until the Lloyds runs out in 15 seconds?
Especially if they have phantoms?
>>335345236
Milk ring just obscures your roll, it doesn't add iframes
I can one shot most r1 fags with dragonslayer spear weapon art.
>>335347321
They better fucking rebalance this shit, cast times for any good sorceries are complete trash, Miracles do no damage and WOG has a FOUR second cast time, leaving Pyromancy to be pretty much the only halfway worthwhile magic class, and even then I don't see much use in that either since Warmth is locked behind a covenant reward.
>>335347436
not that guy but I successfully ran from two watchdogs by just dodge rolling when I turned.
And I started sorcerer and didn't put a single point into stamina.
>>335347501
>expects the fight to be dead even between him vs host plus phantoms
ok
>>335347436
>guy rolls away from you and starts chugging
>you throw a lloyd at him
>he rolls away again and starts running
>you run behind him
>this keeps going until the lloyds effect ends
woha
you guys don't understand
there are other legitimate strategies, yes, but r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 r1 is still a very effective strategy in almost all situations
>>335345754
>>335345808
Fun Fact: When you see someone sliding around like that, you're sliding around like that to them. So it's open season on r1 spam during thator massive spells you thought would never hit anyone smart playing
>>335347068
>claims you're a shitter if you lose to the OP meme weapons
>dies to katanas
HHHHEHEHEH YOURE A REAL TOUGH GUY ANON
>>335347549
>not that guy but I successfully ran from two watchdogs by just dodge rolling when I turned.
They're using bad weapons then.
Literally 0 players have been able to run without eating tons of hits from my running R1.
But I use Lucerne andwashing pole
>>335347485
>>335347485
bump this
whaddafuck or send me a link to a simple explanation page, cant find it on the wiki
>>335347436
>getting hit by lloyds
LMAO
>>335347639
So you can catch people running away with literally the best weapon in the game for it, but wonder why everyone else might be having a hard time?
>>335347485
>He took the free levels
point at him and laugh.It's part of one of the endings, but if you didn't take all 5 before he dies you won't get it. And even then, there is more cryptic bullshit you have to do/avoid.
>>335342119
>Start ng+
>Get invaded at high wall by a flame great sword R1 spamming faggot
>Dodge everything and make him bleed with wardens
R1 spam is an easy kill desu.
>invade as mound maker in the area after pontiff sulvayn
>constantly put into fight club worlds
Holy shit, fuck this game
I don't want to play pretend with retarded ass 1v1's against dickwraiths, i want to get fucked by gank squads or cause absolute chaos by fighting every kind of phantom at once
Fight clubs are the most boring thing to ever do in pvp
>>335347681
You accumulate hollowing as long as you have dark sigils in your key items inventory
You can undo hollowing with a purging stone but it is beneficial
You can lose the sigils by giving the firekeeper soul to the firekeeper but then you lose your access to the third ending, at least for that playthrough.
Best place to farm souls before Irithyll?
>>335347485
>>335347681
Those free levels you got from turtle man added an item in your inventory that multiplies hollowing each time you die, you start with 0 so you don't hollow at all until you take one of those levels. To heal it, you need the 20k soul key to get the fire keeper soul and give it to the girl to heal the dark sigils, which cost an equivalent of up to 5 of your next level ups.
>>335342119
I use Farron GS so its L1 for me :^)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>335347725
Every katana can do it.
Most Halberds.
Longer straight swords
Many weapon types can do it
>>335347783
backstab the retarded host with hornet ring. 90% of the time he will be sitting on that little platform.
>>335347783
This. I tried summoning people in Central Irithyll just to see what's the hype about having muh honor duels.
It's fucking boring as shit.
>>335347783
Invade in the Grand Archives or Dragon Areas. I'm invading into gank squads 24/7 and it's pretty much the worst shit ever.
I invaded into 3x Estoc/Havel Shield earlier. Memes have gone too far.
>>335347797
wolnir coop maybe?
Farming just seems pointless, but yeah, that or maybe dancer.
>>335347875
>Estoc/Havel Shield earlier. Memes have gone too far
DaS2 meta is already back I see
I have never invaded anyone NOT using a straight sword. None.
There is complete utter stunlocks in DaS 3?
You can't do anything? Not roll or block or parry, nothing until attacker runs out of stamina?
>>335347943
The 10 invasions I did this morning were all Dark Sword or Estoc. It seems that everyone is aware now.
>>335342119
Nah its more like
>Invade, be invaded by, or summon a person
>Oh hey they are a cheater
>Die
>Get off the game
>Come back to it later
>INVALID DATA DETECTED
>5 days later no mater what you do
>BANNED
>Everyone calls you a cheater when you try and get help with it and mods lock your threads
>>335347961
Yes, if you spam the first attack of your combo over and over, it can completely stun lock when done right with some weapons.
>>335347797
high lord wolnir and curse ridden greatwood are easily the most popular for grinding co-op souls, they're puzzle bosses that take like 5 mins each
>>335347961
yeah you'll get stunlocked if you're up against someone with a good enough UGS/GS, farron greatsword is especially annoying
>>335347961
>You can't do anything?
Nope
>>335348000
Then imagine that with 4v1 all using Estocs and Dark Swords.
>>335347637
Atleast I don't make daily threads on /v/ to talk shit about a weapon just because I'm a shitter.
>calling estoc and darksword meme weapons
Looks like we found another shitter.
This is probably you
>hah wow what a little bitch meme weapon user
>I'll show him with my greatsword
>what the fuck is happening, he is stunlocking me!?!?
> -700hp later
>hah he will never predict my desperate attempt at a slow heavy attack
>what?! he just rolled through it and backstabbed me
>dead
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>tfw i've played played all DS games but never got into invasions.
I really wanna try it out this time around, whats the key to invasions?
I play with heavy weapons.
So how do I git gud at parrying estocs? They only r1 spam after waiting for my attack.
>>335343867
That music makes everything way more funny than it should be.
>>335348187
Try to do it in the beginning of their spam combo. Also, use buckler since it's alot more like DaS parrying.
>>335348187
People say to tank two hits and just hit parry when they do, but I'm assuming that most r1 spammers won't be retarded enough to try it again after getting parried once.
>>335348018
I'm actually worried about playing the game now that this shit has been popping up, guess I just have to keep myself completely unembered until a patch comes out.
>>335344563
>the effects are not enhanced by having both equipped.
They are, retard.
>>335348170
There are essentially two options in DaS3,
1. Run into the largest group of enemies you can find and wait 30 minutes for host and his phantoms to leave the bonfire to find you
2. Try to fight the Host and his phantoms, winning maybe 10-20% of the time.
The other 80-90% of the time will be getting stunlocked to death into gestures, connection failed, or invading a sliding no animation host from China.
>>335348302
THEY AREN'T, RETARD. THE EFFECTS ARE COMPLIMENTARY BUT NEITHER RING RECEIVES A BUFF TO ITS EFFECT AS A RESULT OF BEING EQUIPPED ALONG WITH THE OTHER
>>335348283
Yeah the tank 2 hit only works against literal retard. Against competent tierwhores its more effort on my part to git gud and react to first hit, which theyll never do and just wait for me to swing first while backing away constantly
>Mage is useless
>Sorcery is useless
>Magic does no damage
This meme needs to die.
>>335347961
Yeah, but it only works on the kind of people who blame the game rather than themselves when they die.
>>335342119
So since UGS overcomes the threat of thrusting, ss, and parries, is it the only reliably perfect pvp approach?
So I'm level 70 with 25/25 str/dex. Should I reroll?
>>335348187
pull an obvious whiff and then parry, most bad estoc/katana/dark sword memers fall for it almost all the time
>>335348446
Not if estocfags interrupt your wind up before you can hyperarmor
>>335348431
>LOOK MA I POSTED IT AGAIN
>WHY WON'T THEY ADMIT THAT SORCERY IS DECENT FOR THIS ONE SPECIFIC THING
>>335348431
>Mage is useless
>said literally no one
just not the meta atm, mages can fuck shit up in invasions.
What happens when two estoc users face off?
>>335348431
Being useful with a 50+ point investment isn't good though
>>335348431
>PvE
Even then, it's still really underwhelming in PvE compared to the previous games.
And before you post the webm, no, sniping the host with soul stream and an obscuring ring does not make magic good.
>>335348431
>all stamina
>that amount of FP
>that channel time
Magic still sucks
>>335348431
what level is that? Must be like 80-90. Before that magic is worthless
>>335348560
you just trade, i have one on switch for such occasions
>the host is dual wielding estoc and dark sword
>2 swings from my Heavy Great Axe +5 only deals 1/8 of his hp
I jusr cant git gud at parrying the first poke on reaction meanwhile they can spam it all day without effort...
>>335348487
They only need to fail once and they're dead.
>>335348283
They have said "we are looking into it." Its been confiermed that you will be banned for
>Playing with a cheater in any way
>Crashing to often
>Progressing to far in offline mode then getting back online
Unconfirmed but reported by users
>Beating the dancer out of sequence
>Picking up leveled boss weapons of bosses you haven defeated when another player drops it
Their system is crazy sensitive. The "Invalid data detected. Please remove all invalid data" warning is also an account flag. Even if you completely remove DS3 from your computer and reinstall it the warning will be there. There have been many players that did that and got banned for still playing. If you get the warning stop playing period and hope for the best and that it will go away in a months time. If you play even after a fresh install. you WILL be banned.
>>335348442
Are you implying getting hit even once means you haven't gotten good? Because that's all that's needed to get stunlocked.
That just doesn't sound realistic at all if so.
>>335348568
Can someone please explain to me why magic takes stamina to cast?
>>335348431
I heard it was alright later on, how much int is that? I'm making a caster right now and I've got dusk crown and young dragon/sage's ring right now but that's as far as I've gotten, my magic does alright enough but not that good.
Also is it worth making your stave and shield into simple infusion so you can go on easier as a full mage?
>>335348593
Yeah, but how does one side win? Is it just down to who has the better DPS and defense?
Parry shield is king. I take back what I said.
>>335348658
It's like 60+ doesn't fucking bother
HERE'S HOW TO DEFEAT SWORDS AND ESTOCS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MR6G0spCNA&spfreload=5
>>335348601
>whiff a parry
>get poked for 3/4 of your HP
the worst feel
Am I the only person using a Heavy Spiked Mace?
>>335342119
At least longsword isn't the god sword like it was in DaS2/1. Now we have broadsword AND longsword. What an improvement.
>>335346565
>if I get summoned my rural Arkansas internet won't typically let bosses do anything
>think this is unfun but oh well sometimes it works and I can enjoy it
>remember people aren't summoning for a good time but to win
>realize being invincible against all bosses who have endless openings is a pramatic blessing
>accept my role as a summoned boss counter and start cheesing everything with terrible weapons
>know some poor guy will be genuinely surprised I essentially soloed a superpowered Champion Gundyr with a pitchfork and took no damage in a sub 2 minute fight
The illusion of beinfg skilled is its own reward.
>>335348601
>Host is blatantly fishing for parries
>Almost kill him 5 times
>Keeps running away to heal
>Eventually lands a parry
>Hornet Ring
K I L L M E
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>>335348634
MGIC IS OF THE LIVING AND THE DED
>>335348689
Which one?
Target shield or is there another?
>>335348668
whoever starts trading with the most hp wins
>>335348770
He did though
Speaking of parrying, has there been ANY info at all about parry frames? Like is it worth trying to parry with something like Farron Greatsword or Parry Dagger over something like a Target shield/medium shields?
I kind of want to try the FGS if parrying is as good as it was in DS2.
>>335348690
I might still keep trying to level it, maybe play it as a purely PVE character and keep going, but builds sure do feel like shit in this game all around except Estoc/Dark sword 27vig no magic final destination.
>>335348625
>Progressing to far in offline mode then getting back online
>Beating the dancer out of sequence
>Picking up leveled boss weapons of bosses you haven defeated when another player drops it
I can maybe see the last one, but that should be blocked by the restrictions on their end, and the other two are completely unacceptable.
>You killed Dancer before Vordt? Must be hacking
>>335349028
>you bear Oceiros and Nameless King SL1 before Vordt? Must be hacking!
RIP all those players who got gud and did sl1 runs out of sequence
>>335348487
>swinging after they're close
Swing on their approach bro, scrubs can't comprehend frames.
They're convinced that if they have even half your swing left they can still poke, then get crushed for 50%hp cause dump dex.
Give it a shot.
>>335349146
What if they keep turtling away backing up waiting for me to swing?
>>335348770
Literally me
>>335349146
This works until you run into someone with an Estoc or Katana who knows that they have no reason to attack until you do.
You'll never hit them if they focus on dodging, and they can just punish the end of your animation.
>>335349028
That's why the last two are unconfirmed. We haven't had anyone test them and confirm them. Those reason have just been reported. The biggest problem is we dont know whose a real cheater and who is someone caught in the cross fire so we have to try and check everything which requires people to risk their accounts.
The first three have absolutely been confirmed. Playing with a cheater is the number one reported reason and we have like 5 different people that tested it and said they got the warning right after playing with a cheater.
>>335349207
You're kind of a dick.
>>335349224
Katanas aren't nearly as bad as estoc or dark sword
Fuck off with your meme hate
>>335348431
I faith build wrecked those guys in less FP than that. But that doesn't make it good
>>335349207
>use tears of denial so that i can never be one-shot with the hornet meme ring
but hornet parries are the worst thing in this game right now. it's a pretty viable tactic to just stand still and try to parry every single attack from your opponent. in fact, if it's a fight with estus, it's the best tactic. really fucking stupid too bee aych
>>335342584
If you are one of those people that complains about bs fishing in ds1, im afraid that you've always just been bad.
Ds1 probably demands the most skill out of all 3 od them when it comes to pvp
>>335347783
then jump off a cliff instead of crying like a bitch
you fucking retard
>>335349247
>>335349359
I don't see what the problem is when you're in 2v1s or 3v1s, the host is chugging estus, and everyone is mashing R1. Your only chance is to chip the host down and then try to one shot him with a parry.
>>335348770
Parry spammers are easy. They're adhd retards who have no patience. Just fuck with them long enough and they get frustrated and give up.
>roll away for about two minutes
>at times instead of backing up between rolls step forward a bit then roll back
>get steadily more brave
>when you finally get close don't attack, keep rolling
>at some random point throw a single bomb (no knives)
>continue rolling until they start swinging rabidly trying to catch you
>pick your poison, either crush their dick into the dirty or parry back when you know it's coming
>if attacking, no more than 1 hit at a time
>go back to rolling
>roll, roll, roll
>wait out their patience
>bombs to antagonize them
>another hit
>repeat until dc or victory
Parry spammers are innately assured of their victory before they meet you. They will assume since they are inherently better than you that their own attacks are unpunishable and each knick you land and each drink they chug will drive them further into r1 spamming rage.
This is 100% applicable for every parry spammer I have met yet and have not died to a single one. The vast majority dc when losing though, so don't anticipate a proper victory. They think they're stealing it from you because you don't deserve it in their eyes.
There is no faggotry you cannot overcome with a level head and a reliable plan, outside of spawning into a gangbang camping your summon.
Things that need to be changed to make PvE/PvP both balanced
>Nerf the attack speed of Rapiers (mainly Estoc) and reduce the poise damage
>Nerf the attack speed of Straightswords and reduce the poise damage, slight damage nerf would be fine too
>Increase the stamina cost of Rapiers, Straightswords and Katanas to prevent the R1 spam
>Buff the tracking of all spells, slight damage buff to Sorcery/Miracles at early level, reduce the stamina cost of every spell.
>Buff every AoE spell, 90% of AoE spells are absolute garbage atm
>Greatshields need some stabilty nerfs, they are hidden overpowered currently
>Buffs to Dagger weapon class, Fist Weapons, Halberds, Crossbows, Whips and Hammers.
Here both PvE and PvP is saved.
Here both PvE and PvP is saved.
>>335349202
Outwait them. They're arrogant dicks who are counting on your autistic rage to win.
If they won't come to your safety zone, don't leave it. Frustrate them with items or something until they get aggressive.
>>335346369
There are literally zero puzzles and utility equipment (hookshot etc, you know the stuff that IS zelda games) in souls what the fuck are you smoking
>>335349734
Have you even swung a katana? They cost plenty of stamina to R1. Fuck off.
>>335347321
What did you expect? Lightning spear was only good in 1. They nerfed offensive miracles in 2. The only good one in 3 is the dark one you get from the crazy fat lady in irithyll.
>>335349734
>>>Increase the stamina cost of Rapiers, Straightswords and Katanas to prevent the R1 spam
katanas are pretty mediocre outside that one running attack. they don't have the insane counter damage thing they had in dark souls 2 so now they're just slower straight swords with a better running attack desu
>>335342119
>people say DaS3 has good pvp
>its always laaging
Do you guys never played good pvp games?
>>335347783
Wait until two get low and bomb or aoe them. For added fun, do it to the last two besides the host before massacring him.
>>335350040
>>>people say DaS3 has good pvp
no one has said that
if you want to play a dark souls game with good pvp, play dark souls 2
people will have opinions about this but imo it's the only dark souls game that seems to be balanced and mechanically designed around pvp
>>335350040
They're just fanatics, ignore them.
It's enjoyable when you meet someone with good conn but typically a shitfest of lagboxes hitting you ten feet from phantoms swinging at nothing.
>>335348625
what the fuck are these nips thinking
>>335350476
item descriptions, mostly
So can we all agree that Dark Souls 2 had better PvP?
>>335349242
i dropped yhorms machete for a friend and he dropped it to my alt. haven't gotten the warning yet. but obviously, that means nothing since fromsoft's system is entirely random.
i don't doubt that it can get you banned but i'm guessing the chance of getting banned for something like that is exceedingly small and it's more likely that the system detected something else equally stupid and irrelevant instead
>>335350476
They dont care about cheaters but get a lot of flack from the west about cheaters. So they made their own anti cheat system they thought would shut us up. The problem is when someone who doesn't care about a problem "fix's" that problem they normally only fucking it up more.
They even said the whole system is automated and they will never reverse bans it hands out because they want to leave it all automated.
>>335350615
yeah i kinda wanna play it again. should i get softs now or am i better off with the vanilla game if i want to pvp? i don't really care about the dlcs and i already have 2 of them.
softs is like 40 fucking yurobucks so i'd rather not buy it
>Playing souls games for the pvp
>Doing pvp in souls games at all
>>335344230
>get invaded at the end of a level after lots of exploring as I'm heading back to the bonfire
>20% hp and no estus left
This should not be possible
>>335350784
Softs for pvp/co-op. Vanilla is dead.
>>335350707
That is another problem. Some are easy to test. Play with a cheater? Log out right after and wait a day or two to see if you get the message.
Others not so much and even then we have had cheaters flaunt the fact that they cheat and haven't gotten banned. One guy for a week straight uploaded videos of him looking in activating cheats and playing with no warning or ban or anything.
From really should have just went with a "report player" system.
>>335342119
PvP is good if you go to the PvP arena in Anor Londo just outside of where you kill Pontif.
Does high Hollowing affect my ability to be summoned?
>>335350801
i agree for arena and autismo 1v1 pvp mostly but it was fucking great progressing in dark souls 2 in ng+ with a shitload of sin. bluecops were constantly hunting me down and every encounter was different. it was like playing GTA story mode and the cops were other players
>>335350868
shit
is there a list of new stuff in softs?
>>335350948
No, nothing effects your ability to be summoned.
>>335349734
>Buff Halberds
Yeah, no. They're already good.
>>335345754
>>335345808
>implying sliders are a bug
Vaati explained it. Read up on the lore you idiots.
>>335350962
>list of new stuff in softs?
actually no need to spoonfeed me i can google
>>335349734
>Not buffing miracles and faith scaling specifically
Come on, faith cant be shit every fucking time.
>>335342567
its instant this time around
>>335351184
>Vaati
Nice b8 frogposter
>>335349734
>Nerf the attack speed of Rapiers (mainly Estoc) and reduce the poise damage
The attack speed isn't the problem it is the poise. They stagger and stunlock way to easy. Even ultra greatswords don't stagger or stunlock you as bad as rapiers do.
>>335343117
you can spam parry
So which attacks can and cannot be parried?
>>335347961
No you get stunlock protection after the second hit so you can roll away or parry, you only get completely stunlocked until they run out of stamina if you're some kind of mentally disabled spastic and you try to spam R1 while being stunlocked.
>Dankmoon isn't about invading those who have sinned anymore
>always gotta wait till you get summoned
Just why?
>>335342119
Min/maxing meta players are usually the worst players because they need every little advantage they can get over others.
Prove me wrong. I'm not going to deny it, I do it too because I suck.
>>335351306
I mentioned about buffing Miracles and all the AoE spells.
>>335351339
Estoc needs an attack speed nerf. Even speedrunners are using this weapon to kill bosses in mere seconds. I am not sure about other rapiers.
>>335351747
I mean in particular miracles need attention, they're always garbage outside of ones like wrath and faith scaling weapons are always garbage in either variety or damage or both.
>>335343867
>>335343951
what happens if you use the Stance special on straight swords? Is it equivalent or better than kicks for greatshields? I've gone up against tower shields in PVP and it still broke them
>>335345754
>Actually getting a kill with the Lucerne
Jesus Christ, are you a god?
>>335351648
That would mean the majority of complaints against spam "meta" are exactly such spastics.
/v/ proves itself ones again.
>people unironically or ironically participate in pvp or co-op in souls games
>>335347068
I had someone doing this yesterday and laughed hard. Wanted to kiss him.
>>335352089
Co-op is a good way to get souls, it is also good to practice on bosses you are having problems with.
PvP can be good when you aren't playing against scrubs who just use the latest meta to get easy kills.
>>335352037
Yes /v/ is shit and the majority of players in general are shit.
I don't complain that they spam R1, it just makes them easier to kill, I complain that seeing one or two different weapons total over 100 invasions is fucking boring as shit.
I fucking love facing r1 spammers
>sl 80, 40 Str
>yhorm's greataxe +5 and the spell parrying shield
>HORNET ring
>play the positioning game trying to get a chip hit or 2 with my r1
>wait for them to come at me mashing r1 with their straight sword
>parry their first hit, or if I miss eat 2 hits and parry the third
>take them to the floor with an 800 damage riposte
>collect souls
>>335348045
Nope, this man is a liar
You can always roll away after second attak
>>335343248
How did he find you on steam?
>>335347256
And a Dark Sword does like 400 damage and can hit the opponent multiple times. Good luck landing two of gay little arrows on someone quick enough.
>>335348361
Why is everyone on /v/ so shit at games? I've been invading central Irythill with a spiked mace for some hours now and have 60 pale tongues and roughly 45 of those were ganksquads.
Literally cancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW2B3P3A_30
>>335342119
Sephirothsword57 has already given his deep analysis on the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4H5vFq10DU
You know he's right.
>After 10 tries finally land a Sunlight Spear in PvP
>200 DAMAGE
What went wrong?
>>335348567
>magic is finally balanced in PvE and not baby mode
>it's underwhelming
kek
>>335352646
Faith needs a buff.
Nah, that's not true. For me it was L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1
>>335352089
Cov rewards, son.
Worst PvP (after DaS2) in a Souls game so far.
Good thing I pirated.
>>335352594
>phone ringing
>moe animu theme
>"moshi moshi"
>"hey mama"
This is parody, right?
>>335353336
Yeah.
>>335342119
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>have blue sentinel on for two hours while alt tabbed at sl 70 with +10 weapon
>never invade once
good work from
>>335348759
lel
>Start game
>Pick Cleric
>Character starts with no headgear
>"ok"
>"wait what's this shell on my back?"
>"It's a fucking hat"
>My character has a hat but refuses to put it on their head
>It's probably against their religion
Dumb game. Dropped.
>>335343929
This game needs a balancing patch so bad
the dunksword still fucks up straight swords pretty badly
>>335342119
>>>Meta
>Its only been out for like a couple of weeks
kys
>>335353654
That's part of the chest armor, cleric starts with no hat.
>>335353873
>He thinks meta can only exist after an arbitrary length of time
>Doing Pvp with my Yhorm Machete
>Dude is trying to parry me
>Rub against him saying do it faggot with all my might and then catching him off guard flustered or reading him when he actually attacks and hypering through.
Feels good.
>get 60 str
>equip hornet ring, horse ring, knight slayer ring, and chloranthy
>get Yorm's great machete, and buckler
>parry r1 spam, or get a shield break
>One hit the shitter with a reposte
>Squat over their corpse
>>335345808
Sliders are kinda great for boss farming since enemies seemingly don't aggro on them.
>>335353859
That is a Uchigatana faggot, not a straightsword.
>>335354190
They aggro but can't damage them. So they'll waste swings on an invincible lagger while you and the other phantom tickle its bum.
>>335353654
That's not a hat, that's a turtleshell
>>335353654
>wait what's this shell on my back?
it's there to have massive clipping issues when a shield is on your back
>>335352363
>>You can always roll away after second attak
Do you regen stamina when attacked? Can you roll with just 1 stamina left?
>>335354996
Do any devs nowadays give one single shit about clipping issues?
I keep seeing shit in-game and in cutscenes where entire skirts, pauldrons, weapons and everything in between clip constantly and non-subtley against everything.
Is there a single weapon that gets S scaling from Faith?
>>335352484
At what SL?
Invading pre SL100 doesn't matter because everyone will be trash
Anyone here got any opinions on which halberds are best?
I was thinking of using the Red Hilted Halberd just for the weapon art that makes poise actually do something.
>>335355942
Yeah I used Red Hilted and it was superb, m8.
>>335355709Talismans.
Every week you guys are complaining about a different meme weapon. And r1 spam is extremely easy to counter.
>>335355709
Lightning Dark sword
Lightning Astora GS
What compliments faith better, str or dex? I can't decide between building for the dragonslayer greataxe or the dragonslayer swordspear.
>>335355709
With infusions yes. Also that holy sword from the twins fight.
>>335355942
Gundyr's
BK Glaive & regular Glaive
Pretty much all of them are decent, except Lucerne and Crescent Axe.
I don't want to be a dark sword wielding fag, but I have no idea what other weapon to use. The greatswords are too slow, what's a good STR weapon with an okay speed?
>>335356429
>>Lightning Dark sword
>Hahaha nice meme friend
>Check
>It's true
No, not like this.
Probably go with the Astora GS.
>>335356493
Lothric's Holy sword doesn't scale from faith. Even though it has a faith requirement.
Thanks From.
>>335348143
chill bro xD
>>335356717
You can't deny how good of a weapon it is. It's just too good.
>>335356869
I can though, the range is too short.
Anyone with a spear, or even a greatsword can easily outdo you at an even skill level.
>>335342978
The game is easy as fuck why are you all telling people to git gud?
>>335356547
Battleaxe, Butcher's, Drang hammers and Twinaxes are all pretty good.
>>335356473
DSGAxe. Damage is amazing with pretty good hyper armor and the weapon art is a counter for fishers.
>>335352431
Look at recent players while in game.
I find it hilarious that people cling so hard to PvP in a game that is based mainly around PvE. DaS PvP "meta" has always been garbage because the series was never aimed at PvP. Stick to invasions if you want to fight other players, duels and fight clubs are always going to be garbage filled with cheesy/broken builds.
>>335357319
This
The PvP is supposed to be unfair. Invaders are supposed to use the game's environments and enemies against the host. That's what makes it memorable and fun.
All the 1v1 tryhards can just fuck off, it's not a duelling simulator
>>335357319
personally i like a good stand-up comedian or comedy film.
Is going sorcery/faith viable for PvE?
Couldn't give a shit about PvP.
>People take DaS PvP seriously.
Haha fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOUNx387aM
>>335357526
Yes, its not as easy as R1 spam is all, but nothing will be.
>>335342119
>get parried
>die
Based retard
>>335357526
This
What numbers does magic actually become useful? Pump in 40+ points? As well as have all the magic related rings?
>>335351184
underrated post
Profaned Great sword >>> Your Great sword
based weapon.
>>335342119
LOL not using Greatswords poise sword art.
>get summoned for fight club
>beat first match
>host keeps beckoning me to follow
>starts showing me a tour of the level for some reason
>help kill an aldritch fag for them
>in the end they die on the big elevator
b-but I beat the game, I'm wearing the firelink set. for what purpose.
>>335359804
Astora > Profaned
What is the equivalent build of call of duty noob tube in dark souls 3?
I feel like trolling with people who take the game seriously.
>>335348726
>>335360427
>get invaded by a mysterious floating cloud of ring buffs
>they were wearing that invisible at a distance ring
>wearing evangelist set mixed with thrall hood and that fucking mace
>wreck my shit at lightspeed
>the immediately turn and start throwing backward dung pies at me, as if shitting all over my corpse
Is this the true power of pvp?
>>335348431
>45 fucking int
>ring boost sorcery
>shit windup time
>this kill the stamina
>cant cancel mid animation no matter how long
the only thing it beat is the shit ai.
How much END is needed to properly use BKGA? 25?
>>335360363
>>Astora > Profaned
prove it
>>335342119
I literally actually don't get this meme. I see all kinds of wonky attack patterns, and I use a lot of different stuff too. Is this something I'll only see at a certain level or something?
DaS2 has the best PvP in terms of mechanics and weapon / build balance. All the game needed was a Red Eye Orb.
Literally EVERY improvement DaS2 made on the PvP aside was thrown out the window in 3.
>>335360853
because they gimped the fuck out of everything it became worthless not only in pvp but also in pve. souls games have always been like this, first few months feel right to beat the game, later months feel quite right to play the pvp.
>>335361050
>DaS2 has the best PvP in terms of mechanics and weapon / build balance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsd9s2drl38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI0luUV3uX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R68zxKDxPJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4idpR-Ggp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9IMaJY0GOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOfJzX2oLE
>>335342998
Lucerne has sexy moveset, but the "sweetspot" thing ruined it for PvP. Its like a scythe.
>>335361278
Meant to quote >>335360853
>>335351308
not true
>>335360853
>DaS2 has the best PvP in terms of mechanics and weapon / build balance.
t. a retarded goldfish
>>335352089
>PvE is all I need
>beating the game 8 times is less autistic than wanting to help other's beat a boss or testing my build or skill against other players
>>335360710
>Astora can choo-choo
>Profaned can't
Checkmate atheists
Does the leo ring work on black knight halberd or is the hornet ring enough ?
>>335342119
*Bloodborne
>>335353859
>block all day erry day
>no dodge roll, only close distance roll
>uchigatana
>possibly r1 spammer
he is just a shitter.
>>335360523
estoc or dark sword. Guaranteed to win against literally any other weapon. Game is fucking trash.
>>335362357
Dark sword is ok but yeah estoc is fucking shit. Also I'd suggest Nodachi, the phantom hitbox and range is insane >>335360523
>>335362357
>mace
>use weapon art
>2 free hits on anyone using a small weapon
However this doesnt work when its either lagging or there are multiple people, so yes the game is fucking trash for pvp.
Who /doesntGiveAShitAboutStats/ here? I started by using the most retarded gimping build imaginable in DaS2 PvP and now I cant even bother to check the damage on weapons. Just pick what you like and stick with it, dont be tryhards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFH4y1UNhIw
>>335362701
>Host wearing Artorias armor.
Every fucking host i invade ever.
This game is only missing a fedora hat.
>>335351965
It looks good though. Maybe not Mirdan Hammer tier, but decent.
I really hate how gimped Dragon form in this game is, not just the appearance being complete shit, but having to take all your gear off means you'll take a huge amount of extra damage depending on your level.
>>335362690
>buffed rapier
>calling others tryhards
The difference between that and estoc isn't that big.
>>335363418
>buffed rapier
You might be in dire need for glasses, friend. Thats unbuffeable, uninfuseable Crystal Sage Rapier and staff on the offhand with flashsword and greatsword magic. I plan to add the hex greatsword magic as soon as I have 3 slots.
>>335363576
>using rapiers at all
senpai....
>>335363027
artorias armor with faraam helm looks fucking great
What weapons are the most fun for STR or DEX?
I've been using the hollow greatsword for awhile now and it's OK but wouldn't mind some more fancy moves.
Might add some sort of spells to the mix just to make the game a bit more flashy but can't decide pyro seems pretty fun.
Miracles seem to be a bit lacking and focusing a bit more on having additional healing/support methods.
I'm finding it hard to commit to a build which stops me from playing and would like some help.
>>335363714
You are trying way too hard now, friend. There is no possible way you could even begin to call this thing OP. Its int scalling trash weapon, but looks fucking fabulous.
>>335342119
When am I meant to upgrade my weapons?
I've been stashing all my materials thinking I'll be wasting them if I use them now.
>people are so asshurt about le estoc meta XD that they think using rapiers at all is unacceptable
The Souls community can be so cute sometimes.
>>335363727
If you don't want to use a straight up straightsword, Gotthard's Twinblades are fun as hell. You get the benefits of the straightsword and a spin that can fuck people bad.
>>335363915
As soon as you can. Later on you will be able to buy infinite amount of shit anyway. Also dont wait to infuse.
>>335342119
>veryones saying Darksouls 3 has the best PvP, but it doesn't. It has the best matchmaking. Everything else is a shit show so far...
>best matchmaking
>You've invaded the world of xXFAGCOCKINMUHBUMBUM_W=DXx
>Kill the Host of Embers or 3 Phantoms
>best matchmaking
>>335351965
Are you kidding ? I have more than 200 kills with that baby
>>335363727
Pick any weapon you like. Miracles are always supportive, pyro is always the best DMG, sorceries are always the best utility.
>I'm finding it hard to commit to a build
Then dont commit. Go quality and change your shit often. You can respec your character later if you find something you really love.
>>335342119
Have you tried partying?
I've wok my last 10 duels, all by partying r1 shitters.
>>335361925
Someone ?
for an int build what is better, crystal infusion or crystal magic weapon?
also what is a good melee weapon for a caster?
pls respond
>>335364347
Whats worse, R1 spammers or parry spammers? I can never decide.
>>335364354
BKG doesn't do thrust damage so the leo ring does nothing with it.
Yes most people fight like this but if you are ok at pvp it's easy to deal with if you practice.
You can either set up parry, (which is easy even with lag you cannot use lag as an excuse when you set up)
You can just roll r1 when you know they are low on stamina and counter r1 spam.
You can use a ultra weapon and hyper armor through the shitters.
>>335364202
>Kill the Host of Embers or 3 Phantoms
The funny part about this is that it's always N-1 phantoms once you get over 2 phantoms.
I love playing as a mad grapeist when there's like 3-4 sides of PvP going on.
>>335345658
Put your summoning sign outside of pontiff, maybe 3/4 are hosts summoning for duels and the rest are mainly fight clubs.
>>335364347
>partying
Normies out
reeee
>>335351965
What are you saying?
Lucerne, Glaive and Gundyr's are the best halberds in the game.
>>335364536
Ok thanks. That's a free ring for me, just wanted to make sure
>All these stories about getting hatemail on Steam
This has probably happened to me only once or twice (in previous Souls games), and I've been killing people in PvP for ages. Is it really that common or do you have to be a massive cheap asshole?
Isn't dragonslayer great axe op?
>>335364674
Is lucerne better than BKH ? I have higher damage with it than with the lucerne. I love the lucerne but is there a reason to keep it ?
>>335364808
Yes if you cast sacred oath first you can usually 1 shot most builds since hardly everyone levels over 30 vigor for some reason.
Been having a ton of fun with the Irithyl Rapier, at +3 it somehow out-dpses my +9 Blood Estoc.
Its moveset is very R1 spam, it I shake it up with R2 and the weapon art.
That and very few people have heavy frost resistance.
>>335365045
most people don't go over 30 due to diminishing returns
What's the average level you should be at to find lots of players? I'm thinking between 80-150
>>335365283
Really depends on the area
>>335365283
For invading I wouldn't go above 80. For PvP anywhere above to 120 is pretty populated still.
>>335364803
I've had someone get mad at me for backstabbing them 2 times, that's about it
What's the best SL to be for the area after Pontiff?
>>335365223
Wait, diminishing returns is at 30? I thought it was 40
>>335365537
27 actually.
>>335344337
To be honest, when I actually manage to invade a guy who's running around alone, I really feel like giving him a fair duel.
>>335342567
After the 2 hit stunlock, spam the parry button, you will parry the 3rd attack.
This works with every spam weapon, if your parry shield/weapon is fast enough. aka medium shields dont work for some things like falchions.
If you see someone with a spam weapon, use hornet and let them hit you.
Although yeah, it makes for a shitty meta
hey faggots is this fun/worthwhile?
the int bonus is shit why the fuck isnt it faith if its a talisman also but it might be fun anyway
>>335365537
At 27 you have 1k health, at 39 you have 1.2k. Not much point in going past 40.
>>335365643
26 actually.
27th is already a weaker point, but everyone gets it anyway because it rounds things up to 1000.
>>335365643
Good to know, thanks
>>335364803
throw duel talismons at them if they buff, they get so fucking pissed dude.
some dude summoned me for a fight and buffed darkmoon blade on a washing pole so threw one of them, he spammed running attacks, i parried him, and then he healed so i went and just chilled in the mobs
he was really upset
>>335365753
The only redeeming quality is the weapon art for it
That's better than fishing for backstabs like in dark souls 1.
That's all that faggots did in the forest.
Can I get summoned to PvP in the area after Pontiff with a white soapstone? I've waited for a while now.
How much END before soft cap?
>>335366285
I cant disagree, at least it isnt that anymore, infact, backstabs are almost a rarity and I dont miss them. I still get people just fishing for them though
>>335366485
All other stats diminish at 40
>>335366485
40 is the softcap but I'm not sure how useful it really is to go past 30
>>335366564
>backstab fisher start circling me with a shield
>whip out my dual bongos and dance with him
>my swinging eventually breaks his shield and forces him to back off
>keep spinning towards him
>he can't counter it despite using a katana with better reach and just gets slammed
So any PCuck having trouble with character briefly stopping running when they press right directional arrow (D)? It works just fine with left arrow (A).
>>335342119
>Everyones saying Darksouls 3 has the best PvP,
No one is saying, poise is shit in this game.
>invade
>3 man ganksquad with 2 dark swords and estoc
every day we stray further from god's light
>>335366564
>Get invaded
>Straight sword, shield combo
>See them in the distance with their shield up, look as if they're scared and new to this, and they could spontaneously be one shot at any point
>All they do is try and circle backstab you with their shield up
>Kick their shield and riposte
>They get up from the riposte with their shield up, you're already mid kick, riposte again
I love inexperienced invaders, its so fun.
I got invaded from a dude in the cathedral for about 50 minutes before i killed him, because after kicking his ass and him running out of estus, he literally would not attack me, just hid for 30 minutes
Been having success invading in the dungeon around level 65 or so using a bleed build with Warden Twinblades. Surprisingly getting more 1v1 and 2v1s than full on 3v1s which i think might have to do with having upgraded my twinblades to +10.
I really wish I hadn't invested a lot of resources into the Avelynn though. Its a piece of shit in this game.
>>335342249
Tager is that you?
>>335342119
A lot of people does this?
I usually switch between a sword and a whip (and if I can open the menu and switch weapons around) to keep the invader/host guessing.
>>335366796
sounds like your keyboard might not have n key rollover
>>335349971
>They nerfed offensive miracles in 2
Did they do this in a patch or something because when I first played ds2 when it came out great lightning spear was ez mode in pve.
>>335366943
That gives me an idea.
I should pretend to be a shitter to lure players into letting their guard down, then suddenly switch weapons and wreck their shit.
>>335367186
I didnt have the problem in DaS2 or any other game.
>>335344230
>"it's no holds barred, anything goes, they have to outlive you at all costs lol"
>proceed to be furious when I summon my friend so we can murder you
>>335367430
You should really get a controller though.
The wired xbox 360 ones are like $30 at walmart last time i checked.
>>335348726
It's just a slightly worse great club though.
>>335367553
Why the fuck would I ever want to do that? I just want japs to unfuck their game. So can anyone reproduce the issue?
So, I have 60+ tokens for the blue sentinels, but I have no idea how to turn them in. I found the NPC for the darkmoon covenant, which is evidently the same thing, but I can't join or turn in. Help?
>>335367703
The game feels better with a controller. Most 3rd person games do.
>>335367747
HOW THE FUCK.
I CAN'T EVEN GET ONE SOMEONE FROM THAT COVENANT.
>>335367747
You should give 30 of them to me, s-so i could check to see if they're legitimate proofs
>>335367747
You needed to progress Sirris questline far enough to get the Darkmoon Loyalty gesture I'm pretty sure.
>>335367797
>feels
not for me honestly. I am not looking to give up my precision advantage, I just want to confirm the issue.
What level were you guys when you fought the nameless king?
can anyone post their stats.
>>335362357
I'm using a BKG and a DS or Estoc shitter has yet to beat me. Git gud
>>335342119
Good thing I just invade folks at sl60 with +8/+4 gear then.
Saw the lautrec armor in this, are the shotels in?
>>335368289
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Shotel
google is your friend
>>335368365
Fextralife is a shit wiki though.
>>335368289
Back in spades. There's even a shotel with a mlgs style special attack.
>>335345754
I love this shit.
>>335351965
halberds are actually good in this game, surprisingly. They are a hard counter to straightsword shitters with their r1 spam and any weapon that doesn't have a good rolling attack.
>Grape
>Join a guy's world via soapstone
>We head off, it's Undead Settlement
>I attack some mobs and he does a dive-attack right into my axe
>Thinks I'm attacking him and begins assaulting me
>I run like mad cause now he's being a faggot
>Nothin Personnel Katana Backstab finishes me
I hate people.
>>335361278
>breaking the 15mil sm limit
>getting yourself in shitter pool
Anything below 8mil is a amazaing anon.
I saw a guy with the fallen knight set and darksword. His name was Lord V. Was it one of you? Confess.
>>335342958
when any retarded katanafaggot does this I don't even attack or parry, I just dodge and wait for them to either stop being a huge faggot and play like a non-autist or else I'll drag out the fight for 10 minutes until they get bored.
Same with the farron GS spin2win shitters. I just stand back and watch them spin around like retards until they realize I'm not falling for their horseshit.
Unless I'm using BKGA. Then I just hypermode and kill them in 2 hits.
>>335347185
>tfw I never get love notes
>>335362357
I mean I pretty much always win with the Farron greatsword. Meta shitters don't really know how to play around it especially if you're smart enough to mix up your attacks and not spam l1.
>>335367303
Do it. Seems fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtT2xYZbWBs&feature=youtu.be
>>335342119
Dark Souls gameplay: r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll* r1 *roll*
Le git gud face
>>335347783
don't be SL80 then you fucking idiot
I have an SL92 character who is exclusively in fight clubs by this point and one at SL65 who does nothing but destroy gank squads in the aldrich area, I don't think he's ever even seen a fight club
>Implying it was different in the past
I have been playing DeS lately, and 90% of the fags I invade are r1 bleed weapon shitters or magic spammers. the moment they start using that kind of shit, the moment the scraping spear takes a trip to their asses. otherwise I play without healing and gifting Old monk headsets.
>>335368832
>be a grape-bro
>getting up close and personal with mobs
You have only yourself to blame, hosts are incredibly fickle and will attack you if you so much as scratch them.
So keep your distance, either take the rear or lead the host through the level.
>>335342119
L2+R2
:^)
>>335369401
I did. He was lagging behind, so I went ahead to clean.
And then he decided to dive-bomb from the top floor for no reason, he clearly took fall damage too.
>>335348302
you stupid fuck if you could read you'd understand that milkring is a cosmetic effect with +3 dex while bloodring actually effects the mechanics of your roll.
>>335369432
Sooo fucking good.
>>335348431
What hat is being used here? I could never find this one.
>>335367864
>>335367863
I get summoned all the time on PC, to the point where I wasn't even progressing (the summon rewinds you a couple of seconds in your own world).
>>335367961
Sirris? She showed up twice and was hostile by the second time. No gesture, but she mentioned rosaria's fingers. Am I fucked?
>>335369613
Crown of Dusk.
I like the PvP in 3 because it shits on gankers and I love seeing them cry like bitches now that they have a challenge to overcome.
>>335369757
twinks are not gankers anon
Can someone explain to me how Demons, Dark1, Dark2, and BB were LITERALLY any different in the department of "r1 spam"?
R1 is the primary attack. Everything else is not the primary attack.
It's like getting mad at someone for using a gun in an FPS to shoot people instead of melee them with the gun/knife.
Are you fucking retarded? Like.. god damn man.
>>335369817
Then why are they all crying?
>>335352089
DS3 pvp is the best. I invade as a grape, like 50% of the fights are against a host and 2 phantoms and then a thirsty blue invades as well. It's hard to win, but heh, it is what it is.
But once in a blue moon, when the stars align, another purple or red will invade to throw even more confusion into the mix making that shit chaotic, that's what makes it so fun.
I also only do low level invasions, so people have less estus and the thing doesn't drag on too much
>R1 is one of two attack buttons
>People get mad because you press it a lot
Sorry, you backed yourself in a corner, I hit you once and still have stamina to hit you some more. That would be rude and unsportsmanlike though.
Let me just get that one hit in the we can both bow six times and you can get a footrub.
Is the Tailbone Spear super rare or something? I can't find any info on how it performs.
>>335369874
because its really boring in pvp when someones only tactic is "Attack when they get close"
And the way the game is, it lets you get away with just spamming pretty much fine, you can parry, but it takes lots of practice to get used to the mad delay, and even so, sometimes it just wont work.
We hate people that use r1 spam weapons and literally just do that because theres no strategy.
Dex weapons are fucking gay.
>>335369432
>tfw one of the coolest halberds in the game can only be transposed from a boss soul that also makes one of the best rings in the game
>>335369874
you can change weapons
you can block
you can parry
you can use consumables
you can use magic
you can kick
sure, not all of these are viable in all the situations, but when combat is reduced to who stunlocks who first and there´s literally nothing else after that because whoever gets stunlocked is dead
>>335370108
>it takes lots of practice to get used to the mad delay
If you want DaS1 tier parrying with no idle frames just get the parrying dagger.
Offhanding a Caestus also works.
>>335368084
I'm level 58 and could fight him right now, but I'm too lazy to fight any bosses atm.
>>335370424
I don't even bother with those, I'll just equip hornet and target shield whenever I see a dex fag and let him spam at me, sure i take two hits but that third hit is a guaranteed parry.
>>335345658
dungeon has fewer ganksquads than most, and it's easier for phantoms to roll off ledges separating them from the host
http://youtu.be/bNXAuoL1J8w
http://youtu.be/bNXAuoL1J8w
>>335370014
kek
If I'm invading they can parry spam me all they want.
You can have three phantoms and all 4 of you R1 spam me all they want and it won't bother me.
I just wish people would diversify for duels or fight club.
I don't get too asspained because it's just a game but c'mon man. Play a little footsies with me, do some charged R2s
>>335368084
Level 1 deprived
Git gud
Poise will fix this if we ever get it.
Why do people invade?
It's mean.
>finish game
>fifty hours in with lots of pvp outside pontiff with my firelink sword
>decide to make new char for invading the burg/lothric wall
>sl15 purple, invading with the orb
>full chain mail, wooden buckler and shortsword, looks awful
>most invasions are hosts with summons, need to be clever to get the kill, abusing the dragon, abusing ladders and stairs, getting hits in when the group chases me etc
>suddenly invade a pyromancer kind of guy
>he freaks the fuck out, spams fireballs and frantically tries to get hits in on me to no avail
>get him to run out of estus, I still have both mine left (only got four estus so far)
>watch him desperately hold his shield up hiding behind the bonfire afraid I'm gonna attack
>I never do, I just abuse the ridiculous parry window of this shitty shield I have
>toy with him using a torch, he's one hit with a torch away from death
>when he tries to attack I parry and just look at him, never riposte
You know most of the invasions are quick and tiresome but these kinds of terrified newblood players make my dick diamonds
I love it and recommend it to anyone bored with the estoc/katana meta especially if you're actually good at parries.
>>335348431
>takes 4 seconds to actually attack and 6 seconds to be fully done with the animation
Wow, magic is so fucking good man. You can one shot those things with fireballs as well but that doesn't make it good on anything but shitty AI that either stands still or walks in a straight line towards you.
>>335371028
Makes the game interesting. I love being invaded, instead of going through the motions think of it as a hard random enemy encounter.
>>335363719
are you me
R1 spam is the easiest shit to counter
>estoc user spamming
>block first hit
>immediately parry the second
>dead estoc user
>>335371076
Electronic rape
>>335368084
I was 85 with 30 str and dex but nameless is just rolling a lot you can definitely do him at any level
>>335345754
Fuck you, katana running attack.
>>335371825
Why were you doing such low damage?
This felt awful to watch
>>335370014
I don't really understand this whole MUH R1 SPAMMING complaining either. If I stagger you, you can bet your ass that I'm going to spam the fuck out of R1 until you die.
>>335369613
>he didn't beat the crab in the swamp by the farron keep gate
Lel loserfuck those things
>>335372089
Fuck the tripple bleed ball dudes,
Actually fuck even just doing one at a time
>>335357690
These videos suck, stop shilling them
>check dorkmoon leaderboards
>top player has 800 contributions
how the fuck do you get 800 fucking proofs
and why
>>335372089
>crab
FUCK THAT PIECE OF SHIT
>>335349734
You forgot about dual swords and claws. Absolutely fun to use but shit for everything else.
Except for that dual Katana thing, those are alright, for some reason.
>>335372343
hax
You should see the fucking Demon's Souls leaderboards.
This isn't a new thing
>>335345808
>That file name
Does parrying dagger have a wider parry window? It used to in the previous games.
>9 out of 10 players are using Straight sword/Estoc + shield
Its like fighting the exact same guy over and over again, the only difference is that some of them use R2 and L2 every once in a while. At least i get to feel like a cool hipster with my halberd
>Beat estoc, darksword/straight sword and katana fags all with my Cathedral Funsword
Hyper armor. Not even counter damage can out-damage my guaranteed two hits on you. I reallocated my stats so now I'm using Lothric Greatsword and lightning Astora's (S scaling in faith), so now I'll be buffing and dealing even more damage.
Go fuck yourselves, edgelords. Hyper armor is real.
>>335372089
Oh, you got me to low HP?
>>335372784
Why does the sycthe has such low range?
I swear with polearms you barely move forward while attacking, and you have less effective range than just someone using an estoc
The weapon art does less damage than an uncharged r2 as well, wtf
>Get summoned in profaned capital as a grape
>Guy has another phantom
>Run up to them, try and gesture to show I'm not a dickass
>Phantom tries to attack me
>Roll over to a ladder, start climbing down
>Phantom tries to attack me off, goes flying off instead
>Climb back up to see the host
>He starts attacking, I go back to the ladder
>Does the exact same thing
>>335371028
It adds spice and tension when invaded.
It's fun to be an amoral, vicious dick when invading.
>>335371076
Do people make characters to invade in specific areas?
>>335372089
Are you using a sword?
>>335373026
I don't get why some people are hostile to Grapes. I play along until shit hits the fan. There are some Dick Grapes, but you usually deal with those when they happen, most of us are chill as fuck.
>>335373406
Not him but I just cheese and had my giant buddy kill him with his arrow
>>335373562
Speaking of Dick Grapes, I was helping a guy in Undead Settlement, I was a Mound maker, of course, he was a dick-ass Thief.
We got invaded by a Mad Spirit. On first sight, he tried to kill me. Even though we both could benefit from slaying the host and I did for that faggot, at which point he backstabbed me as we both returned home.
Why are people such retards?I took a Siege Arrow from Giant Bro and died as I tp'd home.
I miss the good ol days when the Estoc's assrape capability wasn't a meta.
>>335373562
Nah dude. I'm pretty sure you're the 1% of grapes that aren't just glorified reds.
Anytime I'm invaded by grapes they don't go for phantoms, and if theres a red they will just gank me.
And they literally only put their sign down to "troll noobs xDD"
>>335373562
Grapes can only get their reward for killing you or three phantoms. If you think they'll beat up three invaders for you, fine, but we all know that's not going to happen. At the end of the level he's going to have to turn on you to get anything out of his invasion and it's just better to get it over with
>>335372748
My nigga
The only problem with my cathedral sword is I find it hard to punish estus
>>335374091
>3 Phantoms
I'm up to 9 Shackles and it's still 1.
>>335373764
>siege arrow
Was it the guy with a flamberge right at the bonfire before the first giant arrow zone? That's an NPC grape
Here's a question, what should A Pyromancer aim to wield weapon-wise if they can get used to any weapon style and also, Chaos Infusion or Fire?
>>335374291
Chaos, it scales with int and fth
>>335374241
Uh yeah.
Wait, there's Scripted NPC Grape Invades, what.
>>335374394
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Holy+Knight+Hodrick
>>335374291
Chaos in right hand, simple in left.
>>335373816
I for one cant wait until from nerfs everything so people start making their own builds and we finally have some variety in PvP.
Im tired of fighting the same build over and over and over again
>>335374467
The next patch is apparently only changing the way greatswords work sadly. Getting real fucking tired of estocs, I use a mace to counter them but its still impossible with lag, whats with their fucking hitbox, it seems to be farther than the weapon itself and pokes farther than the standard spear.
