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10/10 voice acting lads. Don't change anything.
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10/10 voice acting lads.
Don't change anything.
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He kind of makes me feel uncomfortable tbqh.
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Is there any closer bonfire for this boss besides taking the two long ass elevators?
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GLaDOS was the best commen-tater so far in vidya history
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>>335300814
I used the bonfire that spawns after you defeat the armor

Still had to endure the elevator
somehow elevators are my least favorite kind of shortcut, they're safe but I hate waiting on them
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>>335300814
yeah the one next to the archive bonfire?
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>>335300279
This spot marks our grave, but you may rest here too, if you like...
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>Don't change anything

I'm confused as to what you mean by that, like the game is already released.
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>>335301172
oh dear brother
OOOOOOOOOH
KYAAAAAAAA ><
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>>335300279
He's pretty fucking good but nothing made me do a double take like

>I don't need to go home any more! Home? Home? Where... where is home?
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>Tiny Tim starts reviving Broke Leg Larry

Panic. Glad the scythe hits both of them pretty much regardless of where you hit them
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One of the best bosses in the series.
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As Sam Fisher
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>tfw no dear brother
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to bad hes a fucking pushover. The second phase is way too easy. It should of ramped up in difficulty since both bros are fighting, but all the cripple wizard does is shoot a few pew pews at you occasionally.
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>>335303381
he started shooting soul arrows at me and comboing it with his bros teleport
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>>335303527
i guess but even then his projectiles were really easy to dodge. Aldritch's projectiles were way more annoying and harder to dodge. especially that fucking arrow shit. Older bro should of also gotten more agressive/done more damage with a slight moveset change.
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I figured I'll ask here, as the other thread is about Horace and Anri. What's a good SL to be going through the Smouldering Lake if I'm headed through it immediately after the Wolnir fight? I've been barely scraping by against most of the enemies and a few bosses, as this is my first Souls game, and this area just makes me panic due to that dickass ballista and the crabs and worm and all the fucks down where I opened some sort of one way path.
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>>335302849
boss fight was boring and easy, but the style and design of boss was 10/10
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>>335303814
there is a pathway to the right of the fog gate for the old demon king. If you follow that path and clear the enemies, it'll end up leading you all the way to the giant ballista. You'll be able to turn it off.
I finished that area solo right after the the wolnir fight at around SL45
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>>335301050
just run in place at the wall and pretend that is what is power the lift to go up/down.
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>>335303775
I found these guys way harder than Aldritch. Both involve just staying on the boss's ass but this guy could actually defend himself when you were next to him. Aldritch I beat third try, this guy took me something like 6 or 7 goes.
Hardest part was the homing shits in second phase. Avoiding those while also avoiding the sword attacks was very hard since you couldn't just spam dodge the sword.
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>>335304168
tfw I'm SL 60, but I rushed for combat stats and my stamina and HP are terrible. I also tend to use my cooperation sign to get a feel for areas, which is why I'm so over leveled.

I guess I'll give it a shot after my laundry gets done. Seriously, though, that ballista is a dick. If I'm not directly behind a tree when it fires, I get curbstomped no matter how much I roll.
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I'm convinced lothric high wall/lothric castle/grand archives/consumed kings garden as a whole has the best area design and best level design in the series

The bosses are all really good, with some fucking great music, the level design is phenomenal, the shortcuts are tremendous

Dragonslayer armour, lothric lorian, vordt, dancer and oceiros are all both fitting and competently designed, if you include champion gundyr and by extension untended graves, it's even better.
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>>335300279
Prince Lothric is cute! CUTE!!
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>>335305690
Yup, one of the game's highest points alongside Irythill and the Cathedral of the Deep.
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Why didn't you just ask the lords to come sit on the thrones? Then no one had to die ;_;
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>>335306175
I thought the Cathedral of the Deep and the beginning of Lothric Castle had a few questionable design choices, making them mediocre. The Grand Archives however are absolutely god tier, much better than a lot of the areas in the game.
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wew
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>>335300814
The closest one is the one by the dragonslayer armor bonfire that takes you to the spot right after the blue Lothric knights.
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>>335300279
Do brothers touch each other like that?
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>>335302849
Definitely
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>>335306571
Brothers in a sexual relationship do.
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So why are they all mutated and fucked up?
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>>335300279
The Souls games have incredible voice acting. Barely anything I've heard in video games or animation touches it. What the fuck are they doing so right?
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>>335306864
They don't have many voice lines so I guess they can afford good actors.
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>>335306571
Only if they're twins
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>>335306732
I think Lotric was born all Steven Hawking. It says the other guy "took upon him his brothers curse" so I guess he somehow shared the cripple with him, making them both semi-crippled. That's why his legs barely works and he can only stand for a bit, but the brother can kind of crawl around.
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>>335305690
I thought Grand Archives blew dick and went on for too long
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>>335306732
Lothric was born fucked up.
Their souls are linked together, so I assume Lothric's fucked upped-ness eventually spread to Lorian.
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>>335306571
I thought the one that hugs was the sister.
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>>335306864
Whoever does the sound design, even if it is just Miyazaki, is an absolute genius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpzGBGWew4A
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>>335305169
yea, I do the same, except I never use those souls to level up, but only to buy a surplus of upgrade materials and arrows

the area is much easier once you get the ballista taken care of.
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>>335307563
sounds too much like kingdom hearts desu
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>>335307810
I just got to that area, where do I go to get the ballista to stop? The crabs are 2spooky4me so I just rushed the old demon king
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>>335308328
no, go in the other direction. Instead of going right after reaching the area, go left towards a set of stairs that leads to a boss room. Before you get there, you should see a giant worm pop out. Instead of going up the stairs towards the boss fight, go right and follow the hill into a small opening on the wall. follow that entire path, clearing out enemies, and you'll end up at the ballista.
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>>335308618
Thanks!
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>>335307498
>twin princes
>sister
what
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>>335300279

So why did her crawl around on his knees like Hank Hill's dad?
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>>335309236
It sounded like a girl and looked like one
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>>335309310
He's a cripple, dumb anon.
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couldn't get pic related out of my head the whole time.
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>>335309310
>>335309510
hes not a cripple you faggot,hes fighting you like that because hes a human and youre half his size.

You would get on your knees if someone lesser than half your size was attacking you with a puny dagger
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>>335309686
Read the item descriptions and then kill yourself.
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>>335309510
>>335309686

Then why can he get up and walk around for one of his attacks?
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>>335310519
He doesn't do that. Lothric even teleports Lorian around because his crawling is too slow.
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>>335309504
Well it is Gwyndolin's voice actor.
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Absolute hardest part of this fight is keeping Sirris alive for the entire duration.
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>>335301647
>I don't need to go home any more! Home? Home? Where... where is home?
What are you talking about?
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>>335306864
they hire british stage actors, not Hollywood celebrities
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>>335310672
That would explain my erection, wouldn't it?
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>>335309782
Literally none of Lorians item descriptions tell you why he can't walk, or why he acts all hollow/braindead in the opening cutscene of the fight
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>>335310793
If you're gay, it would.
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>>335301172
such a little cunt. his taunting is the only reason I didn't take a break and pressed on to stomp his ass.
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>>335310816
>Lorian, raised as a knight, is said to have been left mute and crippled by his younger brother's curse. It is also said that Lorian, in fact, wished it so.
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>>335310854
Loving cute girls isn't gay anon, especially if they have a cute, girly penis.
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>>335310916
Cute boys are not for bullying.
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>>335310753
Actors who are near-exclusively stage actors are the best actors alive. Film actors really don't have shit on the vast majority of them.
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>>335310669
he does exactly that you little fucking faggot he gets up and slams his sword down
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>>335311012
motherfucker should of just came to the throne without a fuss then
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>>335310983
>trying to act like cute boys are actually cute girls
Disgusting. Just embrace the fact that boys are better and cuter and throw all females in the trash where they belong. You'll lead a better life.
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>>335310938
That's not on his sword, his soul, or his Cinders of a Lord
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>>335311063
It's not like he's actually walking, he's just standing up and then moving forward with the momentum as he falls back down.
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>>335301050
>they're safe but I hate waiting on them

try backstep, and then try rolling
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>>335311174
You're right, it's literally on his armor.
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>>335311174
Go buy his armor, idiot.
And even then, this is on his sword:
>Before Lorian embraced his brother's curse, he was a knight who single handedly slayed the demon prince, but the victory eternally scorched his sword with flame.
Which implies that he became crippled after embracing his brothers curse.
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I know this may be a dumb question at this point, but why are some characters in Dark Souls huge? I always thought that some of the bigger characters like Ornstein and the black/silver knights weren't human, since some of the strongest humans in the Dark Souls universe like Havel and Tarkus are still normal height. But what are Lothric and Lorian, were they part of some race of pseudo-giants too?
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>>335311610
It comes down to design choice, really. The bigger enemies should be more imposing and you COULD explain it with the power of souls but I don't like that theory.
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>>335311770
>you COULD explain it with the power of souls

That wouldn't explain why their armor and weapons got bigger too.
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>>335311610
presumably descended from gods/demigods.
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>>335311610
Generally bigger = more souls, but it's not really something you can base anything on. It's just for the aesthetic design most of the time.
Ornstein and the Black/Silver Knights obviously aren't humans though, they were made from Gwyn's Soul. I guess Ornstein is technically a God because of it, but I'm pretty sure the B/S Knights are just their own race.
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>>335311610
I liked to think that having a powerful soul can increase the size of the person holding it, which could explain why some bosses are big and why the Lord of Cinder is big.
Although it could also be true that Lothric and Lorian aren't human and are the same kind of race that Artorias, Ciarian, Smough, and Ornstein were. Size doesn't really matter for them since they're gods or something like that.
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>>335311610
I think the idea is cause their souls are so powerful, it made them grow in size. the chosen undead doesn't cause it would make his armour fit bad or something, idk
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>>335311610
Miyazaki said it's just to make them look imposing
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>>335311770
I personally like the soul theory. Once your soul becomes strong and unique enough that it has a legend attached to it(boss soul), you change as a result. Gwyn and his bunch were hollows just like the rest of humanity before the lordsoul, and when they took it as their own became large and imposing like gods.
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>>335311836
Well, item descriptions do say that Prince Lothric was born to be a Lord of Cinder. They could've been huge at birth, with powerful souls already.
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>>335311836
Sure it does. You can even see it happening right in front of your eyes when you kill Ornstein or Smough.
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>>335311610
I imagine that the game designers would probably justify it with royal bloodlines and such, or power/souls making you larger etc.

But year, like others have said, it's a design decision to make them look more imposing
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>>335302849
yup.


I am surprised how original most of the bosses were. I thought I've seen everything but they sure has some aces up their sleeves.
Also am I the only one who likes Greirat so much?

My eyes always Start to water when he's curling up
>Heavens, she was already dead

he sat there in his cell, undead and lost his sense of time.

he is finally freed and wants to pay an old dept to a good friend or maybe even lover and she's already a rotting corpse. Heart wrenching, really.

At first he was reliefed that she wasn't cursed maybe...

;_;
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>>335312125
Smough doesn't grow, and I was under the impression that Ornstein was an illusion and had already left the cathedral.
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>>335300279
Was this the only boss in the soul series that taks to you and taunts you throughout the fight? Wish they do more of this in the DLC.
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>>335312309
Smough definitely grows, just not as much as Ornstein.
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>>335312412
Demon's Souls and Bloodborne had talking bosses too. It just didn't really make sense to have bosses talking in Dark Souls until now because they were all basically hollow, or monsters.
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>>335302849
Is he really though, or are you saying that because he's new? There are a lot of bosses in the series.
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How inconsistent are the bosses? I always see people saying oh this fight was so hard and then others saying OH THAT WAS SO EASY.

Personally I had a lot of trouble with gundyr but none of dancer, I even beat her first try.
Do some bosses just go full retard mode for some people?
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>>335312412
Papa Sexy Beast.
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>>335312412
Oceiros is probably my favourite boss because he talks while you fight.
I fucking love that shit.
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>>335312539
They're not inconsistent at all, it's just that some are harder for some playstyles.
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>>335312503
Stull could have eorked with things like Demon king, Iduex Gundyr and Abyss watchers, just because they're corrupted doesnt mean they still can't talk. Especially with Abyss watchers, would have been even more chillong hearing them speaking in pained, angry voices during the fight.
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>>335312539
Dancer AI is kind of weird, sometimes she'll spend long periods of time just circling you and doing nothing, other times she'll be overly aggressive with very little time between combos.
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So what is the hottest spot for PvP?

50 or 60?
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>>335312539
>Do some bosses just go full retard mode for some people?
There's that and just generally different tactics.
The biggest thing is going to be the weapon I think. This is not a good game for big and slow, so they take a while and the fight can end up longer/more estus drain than it need be.

Then there's the good old, 'do you die in 1 hit or 5' type shit.

There's going to be a fair bit of variance.
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>>335300894
yeah bro ;)
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>>335312412
False King Allant, Maiden Astraea and Garl Vinland.
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>>335312727
The Abyss Watchers didn't really strike me as sane, conscious individuals. Seemed like they were just going through the motions of killing everything they come across, including each other. I'm pretty sure demons can't talk at all, and Iudex Gundyr didn't really seem like a person at all.
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>>335312517
He's probably not a memecuck who thinks DaS has any decent bosses (except the DLC ones which are admittedly good).
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>>335311315
Lorian probably was pretty cool guy before curse:
>badass demon slayer
>appearance of fucking elven king
>super loyal to his little bro, although father preffered Lothric

No wonder why Lothric went full homo for him.
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>>335313087
Did he really? Jesus christ when people said 'brotherly love' they werent kidding.
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So why did Lorian want Lothric to make him crippled and mute?

Would doing that make him unable to be king, which he wanted?
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>>335313087
>although father preffered Lothric
where'd you get this bit form?
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>>335313218
Everything about Lothric points to him being his father's successor until he came out weak and sickly.
>>335313207
He probably did it to help Lothric link the flame but then they were like nah.
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>>335313207
He took on half of his brothers curse, thereby making his little brother suffer less. I'd imagine that Lothric was in a truly ruined state before Lorian helped him.
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>>335312982
But that one Abyss watcher made that swordsman gesture at you implying there's still conciousness in them, they're just feverishly frenzied thinking oneanother as monsters of the abyss and killing eachother nonstop.
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>>335313349
Daddy is a little obsessed with the newborn to care about either anymore.
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Am I the only one who was reminded of the throne watchers during this fight, besides the fact that is was better than the throne watchers in every single way imaginable?

>>335313218
Not him, but Lothric was raised to be a Lord of Cinder and is, which is why you take his head when you kill him. I forget what description says this.
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>>335300279
The fuck is wrong with his arms and why are they both so sickly pale?
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>>335313478
I know there's the whole Lord of Cinder shit but it's fair to say he stopped giving a shit once Ocelotte arrived.
Wouldn't surprise me why they both decided to fuck linking the fire.
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What was the point of having a bonfire 20 steps after the Armor boss fight?
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>>335313756
Because it's a new area. Anon what has been the pattern with new areas in the entire fucking series? It's been that you find one at the start. Blame how small the archives are if you wanna blame something.
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>>335313756
Invasion barrier between zones I reckon.
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>>335312412
They talk to you and taunt you? I had no idea because I finished the fight in like forty seconds
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>>335313752
Lothric was suppose to be a hero king and a LoC. The Hero King stuff got played up super hard, probably way more than LoC.
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>>335313752
Lorian and Lothric are probably the only 2 sane individuals in the entire Souls universe. Everyone is going mad and they just decided to fuck it and have gay cripple sex for eternity before some random undead comes, kills them, and fucks with the world once again.
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>>335313863
where's the bonfire at the start of catacombs?
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>>335300279
>10/10 voice acting lads.

Who would you say had the greatest voice in the Souls series?

Was it A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE?
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>>335313756
Dark Souls 3 is literal perfection, stop shitposting.
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>>335313972
You know where it is, it's right under the entrance :^)
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Oceiros has awesome fight banter
His sudden shift into batshit insanity is fantastic
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>>335313978
YOU, CONQUEROR OF ADVERSITIES. GIVE US YOUR ANSWER
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>>335313978

Oceiros had the best voice.

Aldia had the best voice and banter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9G4CG8N48
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>>335313978
Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel.
Let strength be granted so the world might be mended.
Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel.
Let strength be granted so the world might be mended,
so the world might be mended.
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>>335306732
The family bred him via dragons or some shit so he's fucked up, then he cursed a willing Lorain and they ran away
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>>335314081

OCELOTTE
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>>335300279
GET IN THE THRONE SHINJI
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>>335300279
Great boss tbqh f@m. Definitely one of the best in the series imo.
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>>335314168
It's pretty much confirmed at this point that Miyazaki wrote Aldia, right?
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>>335314270
SNAKE!
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>>335314145
>>335314168

There is no path.
Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of Dark...
...what could possibly await us?
And yet, we seek it, insatiably...
Such is our fate.

>>335314365

Probably not, though he fits Miyazaki's vision perfectly. He's really a character that needs to come back for one of the DLCs.
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>>335306335
But Ludleth dies anyway...
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Why didn't they just make pre-cripple Lorain link the fire?

What was the purpose of trying to create a perfect Lothric or whatever when Lorain was already based as fuck?
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>>335306864
because cheap british voice actors are way better than the same reused shitty over paid american voice actors you normally see in games
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>>335314561
>Implying they wanna go back
There's a reson the Lords of Cinder are are where you find them and have to forcibly hunt thrm down.
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>>335314615
>What was the purpose of trying to create a perfect Lothric or whatever when Lorain was already based as fuck?

If it wasn't obvious, Oceiros was fucking bonkers.
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>>335310916
i found his invitation very polite,instead
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>revives the dead
>cant fix his legs
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It kinda bothers me that the Dark Souls voice actors don't get any recognition, and they don't seem to care about any of the games either.

It's really weird to see all the other voice actors from other popular series have twitter accounts where they interact with communities and shit, and then you look for Dark Souls voice actors and they're ghosts. There's maybe 1 picture of each of them on google and that's it. If they have a twitter, it's either 1 tweet every 2 months or they tweet regularly but never mention the release of a Souls game they participated in at all.

I wish we got an interview with some of them desu.
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>>335314615
Because Oceiros was a retard, obsessed with dragons, and thought that he would make the perfect heir with his shitty experiments, but instead ended up with a cripple manlet. I mean shit, Lorian was already a demon slaying knight, and he wasn't even a lord of cinder.
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>>335313953
>only 2 sane individuals
I`m not shure about Lorian at his current state, but I kinda sympathize Lothric for this reason.
Every game we have the same story about great ruler who wanted to fix everything, but failed hard and made things even shittier than before. And only Lothric realised that better to leave things as they are.
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>>335314615
Lorian and Lothric were influenced by the Scholars of the Grand Cathedral (who were visited by the Angels - Primordial Serpents) and convinced not to link the fire.
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>>335314906
>I`m not shure about Lorian at his current state

The Curse only crippled him and made him mute, he's still in control of his mental faculties.
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>>335311610
I want to fuck you Mami
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>>335314956

>Listening to Kaathe
>Ever
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>>335314168
I absolutely love Oceiros's dialogue and theme

It's so perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4KjLWUZkbU
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>>335313478
>, besides the fact that is was better than the throne watchers in every single way imaginable?

Enh, it's more polished, but by sheer virtue of having two enemies, Watcher the Throne is much harder.
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>>335311047

>TFW this guy is Siegward

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx0sSElGQMA
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>>335315190
>much harder.
Difficulty does not make a boss good. Some of the best bosses in the series were in Demon's Souls, and almost all of them were piss easy.
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>>335314741
This, I wish there was a way to just sort of chill with them until the world ate itself
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WHere are you, Ocelette
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>>335315284
Sure, but I do think it counts for something. And Kanye and Jigga have great designs.
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>>335315190
Were throne watcher and defender harder? I don't think they were, but then again I barely remember the boss, or anything from DS2 really.
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>>335311047
I'd assume because stage actors have to get it right the first time, while people in hollywood get multiple takes. Is there any other reason for that?
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>>335315328

Come out, come out! Don't be afraid.

You were born a child of dragons, what could you possibly fear?
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>>335314956
>>335315072
There's a good chance Frampt was the one who visited Lothric (the empire), since they became obsessed with creating a perfect heir to link the fire, and Kaathe is off in Londor being worshipped. The one who convinced the scholars and Lothric (the prince) not to link the fire after all is hinted to have been Aldia.
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>>335311047
if i can recall gywndolin's VA is an actor from some fantasy setting tv show
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>>335315328
>that sad OST as Oceiros wonders where Ocelotte is
>"ahh, dear Ocelotte, where have you gone? Are you hiding from me? Come out, come out! Don't be afraid, you were born a child of dragons? What could you possibly fear? Now, now, show yourself, Ocelotte. My dear little Ocelotte"

made me sad m8. The voice actor absolutely nails the sadness in the voice.
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>>335315291
Yay, or at least leave them alone.
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>dlc is Drangleic, but without shitty repeating textures and good bosses
>aldia ayy lmao pops up at the last bonfires again
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>>335315425
They were harder just because they were always right next to each other swinging, so you had to be very patient and wait for both of them to stop to hit just one of them.

And you had to get both of them low at the same time, since each of them would revive the other.
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>>335315445
What uh...what happened to him? I heard baby crying in the room but...
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>>335315473
Source
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>>335311610
It was explained because it is a game design choice. Makes bosses look more unique and makes it easier to identify, like THIS GUY WILL KILL ME AND I SHOULD KILL HIM.

There's no lore for this. Miyazaki answered this in an interview.
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>>335315473
>is hinted to have been Aldia.
where?
I haven't seen any reference to Aldia at all.
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>>335315506
>Faraam, God of War
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>>335315473
>The one who convinced the scholars and Lothric (the prince) not to link the fire after all is hinted to have been Aldia.

You're shitting me, really?

>>335315425

Throne Watcher and Throne Defender were more meticulous, it was about getting three or four good hits in before hanging back.

Lothric and Lorian is just run in and swing.
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>>335315524
Oh, I remember them. They were pretty easy up until they buffed, but then all you really had to do was get a good shield and attack them evenly. I'm pretty sure I beat them in one or two tries. What was really bullshit about that fight was Nashandra fucking coming out of nowhere right after you beat them.
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>>335315532

Oceiros probably ate him.

Or, being a child of dragons, Ocelotte was smart enough right outta the crystal womb to recognize papa is crazy and hightailed it out of there.
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>>335315571
>Sorcery imparted by the first of the Scholars, when Lothric and the Grand Archives were but young.

>Fires a torrential volley of souls.

>The first of the Scholars doubted the linking of the fire, and was alleged to be a private mentor to the Royal Prince.

Bit dubious really, it's just seeing the words "first" and "scholar" together.
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>>335315748
He was probably invisible, like Priscilla turns invisible.

And you killed him halfway through the fight.
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>>335315748
But what about the baby cryings? It made the fight fucking unsettling and hearing him too.
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>>335315497

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1640779/?ref_=tt_cl_t11
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>>335315814
Seriously fag?

>Ring engraved with a portrait of a scholar.
Increases intelligence.
>In Lothric, the Scholar has long been considered one of the Three Pillars of the king's rule, and is therefore master of the Grand Archives.

Scholars are the dudes you fight in the Great Archives. You even get their robes.
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>>335315878
oh
hes doing movies know eh?

i havent looked at his imdb for a while
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>>335315853
Really? Jesus christ we play as a fucking baby murderer. Undead have no fucking moral compass...
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>>335315814
>Bit dubious really, it's just seeing the words "first" and "scholar" together.

I can see it, what kind of sorceries was Aldia involved with in his manor? Could be a connection between that spell and the spells he worked with.

>>335315956

He said it was dubious, dude.
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>>335315956
I literally said it was a dubious connection. Try reading some time.
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>>335315853
>And you killed him halfway through the fight.

You hear the baby crying throughout the second phase, though.

Unless you're saying Oceiros dropped him.
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>>335316049
I read it very well anon. But the fact that you make that connection when the other equipment pretty much rules it out is retarded in and of itself.
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>>335315748
HOW CAN SOMEONE WHO IS CONSUMED

EAT SOMETHING?
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>>335316178
Cuz maybe dragonmen get hungry.
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>>335316134
>the fact that there are different scholars ages after the fact means Aldia couldn't possibly have been there

I'm not sure I believe the theory either, but your logic here isn't as much of an instant win as you think. It hardly renders anything impossible.
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>>335302849
>one of the best bosses
>entire gimmick is to just fuck with your camera so you have to guess roll or delayed roll

Nah, if these faggots didn't have their *teleports behind u* gimmick they'd be one of the easiest in the game.
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>>335300279
roll roll attack
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I think she completely nails the Fire Keeper's sadness when you give her the eyes. It's absolutely 20/10 voice acting right there.
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What's the point of fighting them if they're not even real lords of cinder
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>>335312198
The secret to the bosses is that their largely still "big dude with big weapon", but every single one uses their personal weapon set differently.

DaS2, every knight boss has a closer, a three hit combo, a vertical power attack, and a wide horizontal sweep and that's basically it.

In 3, each boss has their own particular set of tools and spells they combine as though they actually had used those tools for a long time. Dragonslayer armour uses his shield and axe very differently from how Elder Prince uses his sword and teleport. Our how Pontiff uses his twin swords very differently for Dancer.
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>>335316456
I beat Twin Princes, Champion Gundyr and the final boss each on my first try while solo.
Meanwhile fucking Wolnir killed me at least 10 times. The difficulty drops off pretty hard in the latter half of the game; most of the bosses after Sullivan are pretty simple. The only exception is Nameless King and that's mainly because he has Dark Souls 2-style targeted attacks with random roll-anticipation delay.
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>>335314168
Woah, I don't remember hearing all those female voices in Aldias dialogue. What the fucks up with that
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>>335300279
Would any of you gents take the time to fug a crow?
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>>335317039
Huh, I felt the exact opposite. I felt like the game was easy as fuck, up until Sulyvhan, then it actually started getting challenging. I beat all bosses up to him in one or two tries, except crystal sages. I actually died more to Lothric and Lorian, around 10 times, than NK who I beat in 4, and SoC who I beat 2.
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>>335315106

Fun fact: He shares the same voice as Marvelous Chester and Vendrick.
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>>335317215
I'd pump a rum.
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>>335316642
>Give her eyes because fuck it she deserves a favor back
>Stops saying "May the flames guide thee"
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>>335317710
If you kill her, you can pick up the eyes and it's like nothing ever happened.
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>>335317348
Might be because I was building around Luck and found Anri's straight sword in the Darkmoon Tomb.
Suddenly I had a fast, enchantable weapon with an attack rating of 400. With the bleeding serum item I carved every boss afterwards a new (bleeding) anus.
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>>335316456

>If boss X didn't have the *core ability/arena design* gimmick they'd be one of the easiest in the game
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>>335317875
Well Longswords are OP in this game. I have a heavy darksword and at 40 strength, it has the same attack rating. Everything died in my third character's playthrough with it. I'm actually glad I went for a greataxe build my first playthrough, since I would have just one shotted every boss late game with it.
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>>335318284
The container on the right will have more, since if you truly tried that, you would never get ALL the water into another container, there will still be some left in the original.
Thats also assuming both original containers held the EXACT same water
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>>335303970
Man maybe for some people. This was one of the tougher fights for me solo. Took a while to get used to teleport shit, and then adding the homing fire from the other one was rough.
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>>335318530
shut up fat autist, no one likes you

you go jimmy :) haha that was very well done jimmy :) jimmy? :) come here for a reward haha :)
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Holy shit what a fucking CUNT Oceiros is
>Fucks off and abandons his sons for dragon fetishism
>Turns himself into a deranged retarded dragon
>Refers to Ocelotte as "All he has" a complete insult to his REAL sons, who are still fucking alive

I don't think any game has ever taken the concept of a deadbeat dad so far, I loved killing that scaly fuck.
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>>335318687
Everyone had different experience with bosses here. I see people say how the one shotted Champion Gundyr all the time here, while Dancer gave them a lot of trouble for example, when for me it was the opposite.
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>>335318843
>caring about your crippled, homo, incestuous sons that deserted their duty and usurped your throne
Dude has every right to disown them.
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>>335304168
What the fuck? Did i pass Smouldering Lake already and the old demon king? I'm at Lothriv princes.
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>>335318982
>Expecting your sons to turn out right when you're a degenerate dragon fucker with awful genetics.
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>>335312756
80-100 is what I'm seeing.
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>>335319074
Lorian turned out alright. Nigga slayed demons and fucked sluts all day. It was only when Oceiros started doing dragon shit that Lothric came out cursed, and fucked Lorian over.
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Why were Lorian and Lothric cursed? Is that ever elaborated on?
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>>335319074
At least his dick is pretty big
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>>335319181
Lothric was fucked from the start because Oceiros was a retard, but Lorian is the purest person to ever exist in the Souls series.

A true bro.
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>>335319195
I took it as Lothric was cursed as a Lord because it was in his family's bloodline or some shit
Lorian was because Lothric cursed him
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>>335319342
It was his families bloodline to be cursed as unkindled and undead? What?
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>>335319195
Because they're incest brothers
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>>335319195
Lorian was originally normal. Lothric was born "cursed" because of his family's, mainly Oceiro's obsession with creating the perfect hier. He did some weird experiments and fucked Lothric up. Eventually, Lorian got cursed as well for some reason, probably because the two shared a soul.
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>>335318990
You know that rope bridge before fighting the big skeleton in a cup?
If you cut it down it turns into a ladder which leads to a new area.
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>>335319445
Nothing confirms this. Quit trying to make it like they're gay. It's just brotherly love.
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>>335319452

BEYOND
TWO SOULS
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>>335307173
Lorian chooses to crawl around because he loves his little bro and doesn't want him to feel bad.

Lorian is actually a badass who lead the invasion against the demons of smouldering lake and cleared them out. He struck the "killing blow" against Old Demon King through the demon's eye, hence his fiery sword. Believing the king to be dead he cast him amongst the rest of the demon corpses, but the unkindled's arrival reignites the demon's flame.
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>>335319195
>Lothric is born fucked up and "Cursed", because of his lineage or Oceiros fucking with dragon shit, not quite clear and the lore never states what caused the curse.
>Lorian sees his brother's fucked state, wishes to protect and be with him, and willingly partakes in his curse to stay with him, crippling him.

Not once does the game ever imply what exactly the curse is, or what caused it, but when Lorian partook in Lothric's curse it fused their souls. That's why Lothric can resurrect Lorian as many times as he'd like.
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>>335306175
Cathedral of the Deep is great, but it's no Black Gulch
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On NG+ now, is Hodrick supposed to already be dead after joining the covenant and then defeating the boss? Because he's just laying by the bonfire, I assume ded.
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>>335319195

DEE
EL
SEE
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>>335319649

The game explains through spells and other items that other people recieve the curse as well, and it has to do with ancient magic or manipulation, likely attributed to snakes who pretend to be angels. The curse itself is likely some variant of the darksign undeath, why its hurting people in various facets when it did nothing to you in 1 isnt well explained
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>>335319585
Oooh zo it was Lorian sho killed all those asylum, taurus and capra demons then? I thought it was just the Demon king chipped out and slaughtered his race to prolong his life or protect his meanigless throne title.
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>>335319424
No, Lothric's "curse" is his frailty. He was that way cause his family was Targaryening their bloodline because they wanted the perfect heir
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>>335319851
>Angels
>Lothric's curse
>Age of Deep Sea(Abyss)
There's so many fucking things to see in the Dee el cee, but I guarantee you with Memezaki behind the helm, we're just going BACK TO THE PAST

AGAIN
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>>335300279
How old is Lothric? Is he a shota?
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>>335319959
So both princes arent undead? Them how the hell have they survived for X amount of years?
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>>335312539
I had a lot of trouble with Deacons of the Deep, which /v/ apparently generally found easy, but I had a pretty easy time with Pontiff, who I've only heard from /v/ that he was the hardest fight in the game.

/v/ is inconsistent as fuck.
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>>335320123
it's implied that they have God Blood, from Gwyn, via gwynevere.
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>>335300279
>It's like they're forming some sort of megaperson
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>>335320151
I am not sure how you could find Deacons that hard.

Let's assume you don't use anything to make it easier(Alluring Skulls and the like shit on the boss easily)

If you have been upgrading your weapon of choice and it's at +3 or +4 you should be three shotting any of the guys in there.

If you use magic and such you'd have either a melee weapon of choice for it or a piercing spell.
Even in the second phase if you hit the Deacon he flinches no matter the weapon.

It just makes me really wonder how anyone can have a problem.
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>>335300279
lothric sounds like a regular 20 year old.

You could release the game with me as a voice actor and it would sound just as cringey.
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>>335320123
It hasn't been that long.

High Priest Emma is old as fuck, but is a regular human being who dies normally, and item descriptions state that she's been training Lothric since he was quite young. It's likely been less than a few decades since the Kingdom of Lothric fell to the undead curse.
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>>335320235
So either their mother was gwynevere or she was one of their reletives?
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>>335320365
Either their mother was Gwynevere, or it Gwynevere's daughter.
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>>335320272
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if this is it for the Dark Souls universe, the DLC better have us definitively exploring/fighting the Abyss.

I feel its far to important of the plot to give us what little we have gotten from it.
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>>335320010
>Age of Deep Sea
that's a mistranslation of Abyss
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>>335320584
That's why I put (abyss)
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>>335320345
He was close to 20 when he voiced Gwndolin
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>>335320272
holy shit that reference, i forgot all about that fucking movie
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>>335320572
I hope it goes even further, as in putting and end to this shit once and for all. Enough with the abyss and undead curse and shit. Fix the world by attacking the source so there's a permenant golden era and no more kingdoms will fall.
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>>335320584
Then why are 'Deep' and 'Dark' treated as separate things i.e. infusions.
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>>335320793
?
they aren't
Deep = Dark damage
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