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What constitutes "good gunplay"
sound design? No mouse acceleration? Smooth and uninterrupted shooting? What do you think?
>>335297918
>he's not misfiring his AK for once
amazing
>>335297918
>that webm
>>335297918
The fuck kind of reload is that?
>>335297918
Why use a clip only to unload another clip?
Why throw away the first clip after one shot?
Why load it with your foot?
There's so much to learn.
>>335297918
>Battlefield 4 Reloads.webm
>>335298189
>sound design
>No mouse acceleration
>recoil that stops from mindless spraying
>a learning curve
>>335298109
the magpul kind
>jams
>proper ejection patterns
>5.56 rifles doing the same damage as other 5.56 rifles
>no magazine auto reallocation
>>335298109
he is being silly
>>335297980
It's funny because he recently had a controversial video of him accidentally discharging his ak.
>>335297918
really depends on the game as far as I'm concerned.
In most cases, however, I'd say that "good gunplay" equals "enjoyable weapon mechanisms", as in handling of the weapons is so smooth and satisfying that you don't have much to complain.
If the weapons feel strong, as in actually inflict proper damage and drop enemies effectively, that's a good start. If the sound design and animations are well done as well, it just enhances the experience, bringing in some much needed weight. Couple these elements with pixel-accurate, non-floaty controls, and you got yourself a perfect deal.
>>335298109
he's just fucking around on purpose.
>>335298189
>clip
get lost.
What a waste of a clip
>>335298189
Maybe both mags were empty. This is a gross motor skills reload, for when your motor skills are gross.
The original Doom.
>>335298189
What game lets me do this?
>>335297918
Consistent and reliable aiming (read: not CS)
>>335298348
Fuck gun nuts like that man. When you accidentally kill someone, I hope you feel like garbage.
But fuckheads like this are always the type who'll just laugh and never be sorry.
>>335298537
The new hitman? Red dead?
>>335298537
i dunno, maybe the handful of games with a "mark and execute" type mechanic.
Impact, and visceral feeling shooting.
Dinking people in Counterstrike.
Everything about FEAR's gunplay.
Really raw feeling aiming. I don't get why devs keep fucking this part up when Quake did it just fine a million fucking years ago.
>>335298537
Need this tactic if you want to beat Gaz's record in F.N.G. in CoD4.
>>335298608
The fuck are you on about?
>>335298608
>Fuck gun nuts like that man.
To be fair, the gun was pointed downrange. I don't think any less of him for doing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs83TE7HJrY
>>335298608
Chill out there, bud.
>>335298780
>Really raw feeling aiming.
This. Why can't devs not fuck up on aiming?
>>335298817
Man ...Germans make some sexy fucking guns
>>335298608
>But fuckheads like this are always the type who'll just laugh and never be sorry.
where the hell did you get that idea?
>>335298348
>that's_the_joke
>>335298608
what the fuck?
>>335298608
Dude is a fucking instructor and his finger slipped when explaining bad technique.
He was explaining trigger discipline on an AK and had it pointed in a safe direction and essentially did what he was explaining not to do.
Not that big of a deal
see
>>335298823
fuck off libshit.
>>335298334
>5.56 rifles doing the same damage as other 5.56 rifles
bullet velocity is a thing
>>335298608
lmfao
where did the gun touch you, kid?
>>335298981
I blame consoles.
>>335297918
Ah yes, the "I get paid hang out at a private range and film it" reload.
>>335298608
>>335299179
that a .357? so much fun to shoot
>>335297918
Good firing animation and good gore and impact physics of the target. FEAR, RDR and MP3 have good gunplay.
ARMA 3 has realistic ballistics but terrible gunplay.
What game lets me defend myself charles bronson style in a subway train?
Why aren't subways/trains utilized more often in shooters?
Max Payne 3 for all its problems had a really satisfying gunplay if you were playing on PC.
>>335299195
Yes but two 16 inch rifles using the same ammunition are not going to have noticeably different velocities.
>scar 16 and m4 have noticeable difference in damage
>>335297918
Proper recoil that doesn't shake the whole screen but rather the arms of the playercharacter (Metro 2033 did that right, Redux and LL then fucked it all up).
Good animations (weapon parts moving, casings being ejected and being affected by gravity + obstacles)
This should also include small details like dropped mags which stay on the floor.
Good sound design.
Impact on the enemies (hit animations/ragdolls, bulletholes in body, blood on environment)
Ragdolls for already dead enemeis, grenades or point blank shotgun shots should tear off bodyparts.
hey can we make fun of that polygon guy again
>>335299330
>.357
500 magnum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1d7i3i0LLI
>>335298995
I want to get my hands on a Czech ZK-383
>that butter smooth recoil impulse
>>335298608
You need to take it down a few notches.
>>335299348
Source on that please?
>>335299380
>satisfying gunplay if you were playing on PC.
Console version has the same gunplay mate
>>335299525
>>335298995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlFdhAK5c7Q
Forgot video
time for webms
>>335298109
>This guy doesn't know about gross motor skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53Jd3ltvb8k
>>335298780
>Really raw feeling aiming
What does this even mean?
>>335299347
Is the gunplay in arma really clunky? I never got around to trying it.
This webm really made me want to buy it since I'm a sucker for this kind of thing
>>335299605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4GMrG0cekw
Good gunplay has guns that feel like it rips people to pieces and just mows them down.
Sound also has to sound powerful and menacing.
Despite its flaws, Hitman Absolution has some of the greatest gunplay I have tried out.
>>335297918
>sound design
>weapon animations
>how enemies react to being shot (animation)
that's it
>>335299740
Thanks senpai.
>>335299646
Your crosshair moves moves exactly as you move your mouse. No smoothing. No accelleration or reverse accelleration. As little latency as possible. No angle snapping. Just pure tracking.
Many games fuck this up and feel sloppy and overly smoothed. Higher refresh rate and frames per second help your movement feel more "raw" as well as you are sampling and displaying movement at a higher frequency.
>>335299348
AYO HOL UP
>>335299657
I suppose it can do, yeah. The thing is in Arma, the movement in general feels really weighty and solid for realism, so the gunplay can end up feeling stiff as a result. Also you'll need a good machine, game is unoptimised as fuck.
>>335299851
>No smoothing. No accelleration or reverse accelleration. As little latency as possible. No angle snapping.
Is there any actual reason they do this? I'm having difficulty wondering why any of this would improve gameplay.
Do guns shoot bullets at supersonic speed?
>>335299959
Shitty programmers.
Console focused development that doesn't give the proper care for its pc port.
>>335297918
the enemy should react to being hit with bullets. sounds is a big part, i love hearing bullet impacts and good gun sounds in general. weapon variety and how accurate they are also play into all this
>>335299971
most of them yes
some ammo are subsonnic for silenced weapons use but silenced aren't really slient they're just not deafening
>>335298823
Why does he put the earmuffs on after the shot's already happened? If guns are so loud how come soldiers can do it without earmuffs?
I have never played a game with worse gunplay than CSGO.
It's like they're trying to emulate the awful gunplay of goldsrc, except got it wrong and made it 10x worse.
>>335299971
Yes, cartridges that do not break the sound barrier are also available and some calibers average ammunition do not in the first place unless you opt for hotter ammunition.
Subsonic ammunition is popular with people using suppressors because there is no supersonic crack
>>335300169
>earmuffs
that's because it's not cold outside anymore
>>335299971
A 9mm bullet goes around 1,100fps
Things like 5.56x45 do go supersonic.
Often when you're watching videos of people on the recieving end of fire, you can hear the sound of bullets cracking whichsounds scary desu
>>335300169
>If guns are so loud how come soldiers can do it without earmuffs?
Soldiers do use hearing protection and many of them suffer from tinnitus or go deaf from not wearing them constantly while shooting or using explosives.
How long will it take to create armor that can withstand bullets . What's the problem right now? Why can't we make a master Chief yet.
and why don't helmets cover the neck and the face? they leave so much exposed
>>335300178
It was pretty neat back in the day to have a game that was trying to be a little realistic
>>335300125
>but silenced aren't really slient they're just not deafening
Hush ammo + a decent can gets pretty close to hollywood quiet.
a bolt action .22lr subsonic with a good can is pretty much silent aside from the action
>this entire thread
Oh look, its the reason why thousands of children die each yeah.
I hope you gunfags get shot, you are all a danger to society and progress.
>>335300432
Because physics, chemistry, money, technology, and testing.
>>335300487
>thousands of children
>>335300487
>implying teenage blacks are children
>>335300487
If you faggots would grab a gun and help it could be tens of thousands, asshole.
>>335300590
>Unspecified: 7%
>>335300432
>How long will it take to create armor that can withstand bullets
The problem is that once you create something to stop a specific bullet somebody makes bullets to go through your armor.
What we have now is pretty decent and could probably be expanded upon but it's heavy and expensive.
But even the stuff we have now will get ripped through with some steel core 30-06 or incendiary ammunition
>>335300432
>How long will it take to create armor that can withstand bullets
As long as armor technology increases, bullet technology will too increase.
>and why don't helmets cover the neck and the face?
Comfort and field of view is much better. Don't be pic
>>335299657
What ruins it for me is how terrible it looks when you shoot someone. I guess it's not much of an issue from long distances though.
>>335297918
i think pretty much everything is important. i prefer raw mouse aim without acceleration or smoothing. sound design is a big thing, the sounds of impact on different surfaces and hitting enemies need to be satisfying. i also find a lot of the time in games i'll prefer different weapons over others just because how they sound. hell, i even think the shape of a crosshair is important, and if it animates when you shoot and that sort of thing. i don't have a big preference on that but i've noticed that it can actually change the feeling of shooting a surprising amount.
this is mostly aesthetic stuff though, mechanically i find it hard to think of what kind of gunplay is good...
>>335298608
found the britcuck
>>335300487
>he has a drivers license
oh look, its the reason why thousands of children die each year.
I hope you carfags get shot, you are all a danger to society and progress.
>>335300590
When are we going to ban assault vehicles? If you're not planning on crashing into people/things why does your vehicle need a bumper?
>>335298817
That guy sure blew a lot of money for like two seconds of satisfaction.
Then again, that's basically what dating is.
>>335300590
> 2007
Max Payne 3.
Entry and exit wounds, albeit silly at times.
Enemies reacted to limb shots accordingly
Shooting someone's hands could make them drop their weapon
Enemies scaled nicely with the levels. You start off killing unarmored foes with weak 1 handed weapons and near the end only fight armored foes with 2 handed weapons and helmets, demanding absolute precision and headshots on harder difficulties
Mother ducking bullet time.
It's fantastic and I wish they put forth even half of its efforts in GTA5.
>>335300847
Doesn't long range engagements in arma just devolve into pixel hunting and abusing the fact that foliage doesn't render out into distances?
I would put a hold on my shooting/gun expenses and build a pc if I could find a game that does long range engagements right. Doesn't squad do this to a certain degree?
>>335298608
Haley was marine force recon and a contractor, he's killed dozens of people on purpose
But when he accidentally shot a gun downrange, now he's a gun nut taking things too far
>>335300442
>Not thinking of Rainbow Six
>>335301015
>unsubstantiated assumption that there has been a sharp increase in the number of firearm related accidental deaths over the past 9 years
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf
They don't do these things every year and that picture was a tad old.
>>335300487
>Anime picture
>Unpopular opinion that differs from the thread
>"I hope you get shot"
Nice bait.
>>335301014
If you're talking about all the bottles, it's more probable that he acquired some empty bottles and filled them with colored water than it is him going to the store an buying a bunch of juice at retail.
So can we agree that sound design is most important part?
Also
http://nextframe.jp/flash/matsnp/matsnp.html
>>335301124
>It's fantastic and I wish they put forth even half of its efforts in GTA5.
And to think Michael's special ability would be like max payne 3's. I was pretty dissapointed at how his ability handledI really liked the gunplay in gta4 and how downed enemies didn't neccesarily die on the spot.
>>335301448
Game developers should hire surgeons and morticians as consultants on damage physics and use things like liveleak for reactions to getting shot.
>>335301014
>>335301347
Even if he did buy all that juice, he for sure made it back + more from those youtube bux
I have so many gun webms I want to post but they all have sound and are over 3 MB
When the fuck are we going to make all of 4chan to the same standard as /wsg/
>>335301425
this is p dope
>>335301307
If you don't think there are more firearm related deaths in this country than in 2007, you are straight up fudging janky man.
>>335297918
>Knock the magazine out with a full magazine... Then discard it.
>Reload with rig
>Grab onto HOT BARREL POINTING AT YOUR HEAD
>Kick charge handle
this has to be satire
What game can I play to get the closest gunplay to John Wick?
That movie was fucking great
>>335301832
Give some stats, humanities major.
>>335299348
imagine if this movie was released in the current year
>>335300178
Well CSGO isn't really a shooting game. It's more like a point-your-cursor-and-left-click-game.
>>335301885
It is, you autist.
>>335301679
I ..thought this was a SFW board?!
>>335300487
>he thinks guns are bad
what a faggot
>>335301832
Substantiate those allegations
I for one can pull numbers showing a constant downward trend over the past two decades off the CDC FBI and DOJ records.
Do you have some lefty facebook posts to counter me with?
>>335299439
sounds like you really just want to go on a shooting rampage anon.
>>335299179
>>335301679
Why isn't there a game like this? A gran turismo but for guns. No enemies to kill, just shooting realistic renders of a bunch of different guns
shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q0SiFd_cPo&index
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pHOeDtmrm4
>tfw liberal
>tfw hasguns
>tfw love guns
I hate other liberals who whinge constantly about how guns are the worst thing ever
>>335301679
damn that is pure sex
>>335300590
>Accidental pedestrian death
>>335301925
You're the butthurt white trash redneck. You don't need stats, watch the news. Guns are dangerous and are constantly shooting kids. Look at sandy hook, I sincerely hope you never breed.
>>335302196
Those aren't real libers you know that right?
>>335302164
Receiver was kind of like that but it had robot shooting ranges
I think one is called world of guns that you can tear guns apart.
>>335300487
Fuck children.
>>335302276
>receiver
Receiver was fun as fuck, I want more of it
I want a sequel with more content
Really I just want a game with really tight and deep gun mechanics
>>335298189
>clip
>>335297918
>sound design? No mouse acceleration? Smooth and uninterrupted shooting?
All of those plus animations, ballistic phyisic, things you can do with gun besides click to shoot, how enemies react to getting hit.
Combination of everything matters.
>>335300487
>>335300823
>As long as armor technology increases, bullet technology will too increase.
Uhh, that's not really how it works. We've been using the same basic bullet tech for nearly 500 years.
I mean high grades munitions and explosives and all that shit evolves, but hand held weapons are pretty tapped out as it is senpai.
>>335302263
>the news
>look as this instance of a thing that almost never happens
More people were killed in paris in one night than a decade of mass shootings in the US
More people were struck by lighting in a 10 year span than have died in mass shootings since 1980
>>335301916
MP3?
>>335302164
>Why isn't there a game like this? A gran turismo but for guns.
I wonder that all the time. Except the no enemies part. There should be a game that does both realistically.
Like realistic cars with realistic handling can be driven on realistic tracks/roads, there should be a game with realistic guns + realistic damage/gore.
>>335302421
>We've been using the same basic bullet tech for nearly 500 years.
So spitzer bullets, AP ammo, recent advances in 9mm bullets that can penetrate IIIA body armor are 500 years old? Uhh, okay anon!
>>335301832
He said sharp increase
"firearm related deaths" includes more than just accidents, and is a totally different statistic that's mainly affected by gang&drug violence or how many people felt like committing suicide that year.
>Not really a gunfag but have considered collecting
>all the guns you would collect are rare shit that other faggots already snapped up and would cost you a good chunk of your yearly sallery
>>335298608
bernie sanders voters everyone
underage and not eligble to even smoke weed
>>335302446
OUTLAW LIGHTNING STORMS
>>335302532
I think enemies can be supplemented with reactive targets like steel plates, bricks, windows, bottles of water and the game acts as a physics demo. Maybe add competitive timed shooting segments.If I were a developer, I'd do this then base the tech for shooting games with violence off of that sim
>>335297918
Personally, I like when FPS games have a deadzone, like Insurgency.
Also realistic ballistics.
I want an M1A but I don't want to pay a fortune for it
Same goes for an M1911
>>335302136
EVEN ONE IS TOO MUCH! BAN ALL GUNS!
>>335302856
>but I don't want to pay a fortune for it
>buy garand for ~$600
>buy entry level 1911 for $450
>>335302714
You've erected me anon...I hope you know what this means
>>335302136
>Most of those are suicide and accidents
>accidents is fucking tiny and murder is 1/3rd of the pie
>Image looks like it was made for an eye rape contest in MS paint
fuck man
>>335297918
only one thing is important for "good gunplay" in a game
good animations
thats it
you people underestimate the importance of good animations. good animation is the difference between Red Orchestra and Fallout gunplay
>>335302164
>>335302532
The real answer is that there is no money in it.
most gun guys are not video game guys and I would assume the videogame industry is not full of gun guys.
It would be a niche that is scratchable with real guns so I don't see gun guys flocking to buy it.
>>335302446
You are so fudging retarded, it's scary that people like you should be allowed to own a GUN. The thing that militarys use to conduct MASS MURDER.
>>335302714
What is that, a tank in the sky?
>>335302596
The basic principles are, only very minor refinements have been made over the years. It's still a simple bullet, spun by rifling, propelled by a powder charge of the same magnitude of power that's been powering guns for ages. Yes there have been some changes to shape, coating, and cartageing ect, but there is simply not much room to innovate with the form factor of hand held weapons.
Compare that to the huge advances in large scale munitions where there is constant innovation because there is actually room to innovate and expand, not just physical room but room moneywise too.
>>335303024
>tfw we don't into naval artillery anymore.
>>335303083
>people will respond to this without realizing that it's terrible bait
>>335301916
Max Payne 3, Splinter Cell Conviction/Blacklist, maybe even Payday 2 (just because Wick is in the game)
>>335302263
Don't parody retards, they are people too
>>335303074
>I would assume the videogame industry is not full of gun guys.
Why would you assume that? Shooting games are the best selling games.
Please don't respond to the bait anons. Make him work for his (you)s
>>335303074
>the closest thing to what I'm describing in a mod made for unreal tournament 99 back in the early 2000's
>this game is 16 years old and still has yet to be matched by any realistic shooters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o52V6JsjrJc
>>335301916
Most likely Max Payne or FEAR
I want an fps game that lets me do a grab/takedown like this and still lets me shoot
https://youtu.be/b3THL_7Z29Y?t=87
>>335299959
>Is there any actual reason they do this?
console controllers
>>335303331
God that movie was great
I need to watch it again
Sound, animations and the feeling of impact are a big deal.
Insurgency has the best gunplay 2bh.
Rifle rounds actually properly killing a target if hitting unarmored chest, any round killing with a headshot, proper ballistics (at least realistic travel and drop), proper recoil to make burst firing and single shot advantageous, proper sight picture with iron sights (aka not having a peep so small you can't see shit), proper ammunition management (magazines are actually a thing not just a magic ammo number you have that refills and comes out of your mags at will), proper modeling and usage of the firearms.
Just some examples.
>>335303391
Insurgency has some good gunplay, mah nigga
Red Orchestra/Rising Storm does it pretty well too
Should also add proper locational damage would be really need, with a good wound system. That's something that as far as I know we haven't really seen in video games.
>>335300487
underage anime should be banned from posting
>>335303083
I know you are trolling but I would like to address that picture,
First of all the need for a well regulated militia has nothing to do with the clearly outlined individual right to bear arms free from infringement.
secondly, "well-regulated" meant in good working order in that era.
so even if they were referring to the right to bear arms as part of the militia it would only be a militia in good working order not one regulated to death by the state.
if you read the federalist papers and realize one of the powderkeg incidents that started the war was british attempts at gun control you would easily surmise there was no intention at state control over gun ownership implied in the second amendment, you know aside from the glaringly obvious english that leftists so proudly shittily interpret at their fancy and then accuse those that can actually speak english of doing.
One more time
>","
^
>the right of "the people" to keep and bear arms
Not, "the right of the well regulated people only in the militia!"
these people were educated statesmen, they knew what they were fucking writing and these blatant attempts at re-interpreting the constitution to suit far left authoritarian views disgusts me to no end.
Escape from Tarkov will hopefully set the bar for gunplay. The little we've seen have been promising.
>>335299348
Why did she kill the dude in yellow, he was just standing back.
>>335303112
And? The basic methods of combat haven't changed either. Remove pieces of your opponent's body until they can no longer do the same to you.
>>335303452
>proper ballistics (at least realistic travel and drop),
Proper ballistics is fucking mad gay though, 99% of games never take place at ranges where you even can notice anything. Exaggerated is the way to go
>>335303641
Witness
>>335303681
That's false equivalence and you know it.
>>335303272
I have no substantial evidence to prove it but I would assume there are a lot of studios hiring phil fish type lefty antiGGs all over the place
Hollywood makes shitloads of action movies and half the action stars are antigunners
>>335303391
>mfw nwi is unironically excited to get insurgency to consoles and into competetive gaming
I stopped playing insurgency right around when they brought in the 1911's
>>335303696
I disagree.
>>335303763
Nah, accomplice
She was justified in killing that guy, and she assumed that his friend would have reacted badly to it and endangered her
>>335301916
As much as I hate using it since it makes the game easier, the mark & execute mode in Splinter Cell Blacklist makes you feel like John Wick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSUihB4tkTM
>>335301305
Nobody likes true tactical shooters anymore.
>game has semi automatic weapons and handguns
>firerate on them is capped to an awkward, slow chugging pace
>>335304243
>can't bumpfire
>>335304243
>>335304273
Heres an idea, the controller has a motion sensor and if you jerk the trigger you can pull shots like in real life.
>>335303872
So you can get away with killing an unarmed guy just for being with the person who assaulted you?
>>335303625
You gunfags LITERALLY cannot deny this though; http://listverse .com/2013/04/21/10-arguments-for-gun-control/
>>335304408
>mfw constant shooting to the left when shooting handguns everything
I just want to git gud :(
>>335304468
Get someone else to hide snap caps in your mag so you don't know when they're coming. You'll see yourself flinch when you pull the trigger but the shot won't go off which usually hides it. That's what I did when I developed a flinch after using .45 in centerfire compeitions.
>>335303083
A well regulated breakfast, being necessary to the healthy start of the day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed.
>>335304434
Not all the time, but honestly, in a trial, the jury would side with her
She's a white woman and they were two thuggish black guys
>>335303864
Yeah well I disagree back. What are you going to do about it nerd?
>>335304458
I'm not in the mood to reread your left leaning drivel.
I am done arguing and want to talk about guns and video games now, here is an infograph in response and it probably BTFOs whatever you linked.
have a good night.
>>335304468
apparently your finger is not properly on the trigger.
How do you place your finger on the trigger?
>>335303153
This entire thread has been blatant bait.
Honestly, though, I think the fish are only latching onto the bait for fun or practice.
>>335297918
>its one of "those" threads again
Alright
Not a gunfag, but are there any games that are as realistic as possible with guns? So reloading takes ages, the gun feels heavy when you aim it and there's literally zero aim assist with physically accurate bullet drop?
>>335299179
I recognize Hic-cock 45 here.
>>335304824
Why don't you just go and shoot a gun at this point, fag? Vidya isn't going to be able to account for any of what you have just posted.
>>335304243
>Game has a smg
>Fires decently fast for a video game gun, not great real world wise but good
>Has an alt fire mode that sprays bullets like a hose and almost decent for a real world gun
Feels good man.
>>335304824
>>335303331
There's an alarming amount of attention to detail its ridiculous. Probably the first game I've ever seen proper animations for a DA/SA handgun
>>335304824
Obviously most milsim games are like that, but I personally like Insurgency. The maps are small enough that hitscan/lack of bullet drop isn't a game-breaker, and the guns handle very nicely. It's a very satisfying game.
There's always the good old standby, Receiver.
>>335297918
>guns the are fun to use (feel/are strong)
>guns that sound good
>guns that look good
>guns that work properly (not bugged/useless)
>>335304735
Of course you gun-toting nutjobs refuse to read anything even remotely resembling reason. It's a good thing Hillary will take your dangerous toys away.
>>335304968
Can't dude. In the UK :*)
>>335305047
Cunt can try desu.
>>335305102
>Can't dude. In the UK :*)
You can own guns in the uk. It's just prohibitely expensive for the average peon and rifles are converted to cucksemi which is basically needing to charge them shot after shot
freedom ak104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA5JrEn5EcU
semi 105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSwWHmqqHoc
cucksemi 104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJlJNngvkAI
>>335302136
This graph is hilarious, is it pretending that 30 people per fucking day is small? Yes it is only 0.0000085% of your population but so fucking what? "Everything should be as safe"? Guns are literally designed to kill things, they have no other purpose
>>335305303
That's a nice CZ but what the hell is that other fucking abortion?
>>335305303
Wow what an ugly SMG
>>335304458
>Went in hoping for something at least reasonable
>The author goes full retard not even half way in
If any gun control and legal reform is needed it's not "muh baby killing assault weapons" it's for handguns which constitute the vast vast majority of all gun violence. Why these idiots choose to focus on weapons which are of the least concern in terms of numbers of people killed, and violent acts committed with them is simply astonishing.
>>335298109
it's for when your hands are shaaakin' and can't work your fingers properly
when your ptsd is flaring up and you're having a stroke, you gotta reload somehow
>>335297918
Realistic handling.
>>335301916
>tfw Keanu is super into guns and John Wick now
>>335305530
Because gun manufactures make money on civilian weapons and pay people in office to tackle an issue that isn't really an issue so that they both win?
>tfw just wanna shoot cool guns at paper
>everyone else tries to make you feel bad for enjoying a hobby
at least I get out of the house
>>335298189
>CLIP
consider suicide
>>335305720
No fucking way, that's pretty awesome. What a bro.
>>335297918
The same thing that makes all games great: Interactivity.
For all intents and purposes, in FPS games the gun is your way (often your only way) of influencing the world around you. So the abilities and limitations surrounding this make the gunplay meaningful. Just clicking and sending an instant deathray to the enemy is boring as fuck, but that's what the most basic FPS gun is.
After that, it all depends on the context of the game. Good gunplay in a realistic military shooter means comprehensive accuracy simulation, recoil that conforms to real life guns, proper sound, high lethality, etc. But in an arena shooter, you want a range of guns that do wildly different things and emphasise twitch shooting skills. Throw reloading and ironsights in there, and people will hate it.
>>335305720
>Keanu actually is an operator
you know, i actually really like him now
>>335303595
I think Arma kind of has that. But not in the detail it could have been. For example a heart shot, killing you almost instantly. Lung shot, that makes it hard to mobilize giving you fatigue. And of course the possibility of bleeding out. Why haven't we seen this in a game already?!
>>335305436
that's nice.
>>335305439
>>335305483
It's not done yet, 30 rounders and a "cheek rest" are on the way.
I would love to have the original stock but I don;t really want to pay an extra $200 to register it as an SBR on top of the $200 cz stock
>>335305047
I know you're trolling, but something like that would never happen. Every time people cry about the president trying to take away their guns jack shit happens.
Unless this country becomes a police state like the UK no body is coming to physically take away peoples guns.
>>335305779
>getting this triggered by a bait post
I think that should be what you should be doing desu. Real talk though gunfags are far too thin skinned.
>>335305863
You should have always liked him
>>335305530
>it's the handguns fault
It's literally mostly gangmembers shooting gangmembers
stop the gangs from profiting and put violent criminals away and throw away the key
wow now the tiny amount of people dying because somebody shot them with a handgun is almost non existent.
oh wait it already basically was.
Is it legal to fire 50 BMG in Arizona?
>>335305893
>buys a scrop
>no plans to SBR it
desu baka senpai
>>335304458
I'm legit scared to read it
Tell me what it says
>>335306018
I don't think he's blaming handguns, he's just saying that if you were truly anti-gun, i.e. you don't want guns themselves on principle, that it's most logical to go after handguns. But they don't.
>>335306068
Yes, but everything above .50 is considered a destructive device. $200 tax stamp per round iirc.
>>335302196
You're thinking of leftists
>>335297918
Depends since everyone has different taste. Some people think CoD guns are good.
For myself personally, good gunplay requires a few things.
1) Time for alignment of sights, especially when transitioning from movement or from sustained full auto fire
2) Recoil, but the visual elements aren't simply animated it's actually part of the bullet spread
3) Great sound, those really high end cracks, pops, and other tinnitus causing lovely bits
Case in point, Rising Storm 2 and Escape from Tarkov have the best gunplay.
>>335304243
>game has a rotating barrel machine gun
>has a firerate on par with the slowest machineguns out there
>functionally identical to other machineguns in the game, pretty much only looks cool
>>335305937
and bernie supporters need to go through basic elementary english skills again.
>>335300432
You have to be able to move your head around and breathe. Go out a gasmask on and jog around for a minute, you'll fucking feel it.
>>335306295
You've played Escape from Tarkov?
>>335297918
>take a mag out to hit a tiny eject thing
>drop this mag, to drop the mag in your gun so you can put a mag in from your belt
hmm
>>335306068
Yes, Is there a state that it's not legal?
>>335306159
I would love to but I spend time in multiple states and you have to inform the ATF whenever you take an SBR over state lines.
If I settle down or that changes I will probably go through with it and get the CZ folder.
>>335306214
I get that he was playing devils advocate and I was just arguing against it, did not mean to heavily imply I though he was an idiot
>>335306376
I fucking hate Borno but lets not lie to ourselves, he is the most gun friendly democrat in a LOOONG time
>>335302714
>Exploding van
Which one of you did this?
>>335306376
It is quite humerus how you would school me on the basics of grammar when you yourself are not exactly the shining example of it, friend.
>>335306406
I haven't played either. That's not necessary to use your fucking eyes though, anon.
>>335306214
$200 tax per round? Fuck well there goes my dream of firing a 20mm
>>335306474
I know it's illegal in CA and NY off the top of my head. You can own the round actually, but it's illegal to fire it since it's considered a destructive device
>>335306516
>jim webb
>>335306643
>but it's illegal to fire it since it's considered a destructive device
CA and NY consider 50 a DD?
>>335306643
>basing your knowledge of gun laws around the country on NY and CA
Lol
>>335306651
Jim Webb isn't even near the level Bernie is.
>>335299439
>This should also include small details like dropped mags which stay on the floor.
i had a love hate relationship with this in blood money
on one hand I was impressed that mags were items that were dropped, on the other hand it's weird having a professional assassin leave a trail of mags
>>335306805
What does that mean?
>democrat
>progun
>bernie
>pro assault weapons ban
>pro mag bans
>>335306757
Those states are run by dumbasses that specifically ban "fiddy cal" because they have no concept of how firearms work or what a caliber even is and then act dumbfounded when the industry works around the ban by changing the diameter of the round from .50 to .49 and suddenly it's legal.
>>335306474
If you ever do decide to SBR it, the ATF just passed some new rules that will make it easier to register as an individual and hopefully cut down on paperwork. No more CLEO signature. I'm waiting for that to take effect (June/July I think) before I SBR my .300 BLK AR and maybe put a suppressor on it.
>>335306581
I thought the trailer or whatever was pretty damn cool, but I don't want to fall for the hype. I'll believe it when I play it.
>>335306643
I moved out of NY quite a while ago but I have some friends there that own guns that they just buy from Vermont or some shit and don't give a fuck. Helps to live in the middle of nowhere though. Fuck the city.
>>335306401
then why does scuba gear work? use something like that
>>335305734
Possible I suppose, but it's more likely these people somehow are stupid enough to believe that arguing polemics and using bullshit scare tactics will work better than trying to be reasonable and do the most good possible through compromise.
>>335306018
I didn't say it was somehow the "Fault" of the handguns, but clearly by their design they are much better at being used for good and for ill, reform and regulations to limit the latter would obviously be good for everyone. Further just because it's "gangmembers shooting gangmembers" much of the time (I'll take your word on that), that doesn't mean that gangmenmbers don't also shoot law abiding citizens, nor does it invalidate that nearly all gun crime is using a handgun. Furthermore it's not often possible to simply "stop gangs from profiting", they don't have marked accounts that can be frozen, and goods that can be easily stopped from reaching market with some regulation. It's not a black and white world where one can simply just stop the root cause of the problem. In the end multifaceted approaches are always going to be required to solve real world problems. Police action is just a part of that ongoing and continued efforts to stop them, but making it harder for them to get weapons is another important step.
Finally just because there is not hugely significant death tolls by measurement against the total population, doesn't mean that if deaths can be prevented that they should not. All efforts should always be made by a governing body to protect the most fundamental right there is.
>>335305842
>>335305863
Tom Cruise is also bretty cool. Anyone who enjoyed John Wick should watch Collateral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8-P8sJNHk0
>>335306954
Chicago and DC had a complete handgun ban for everyone for 30+ years. That's as hard as you can make it. Somehow they still had astronomical levels of murders committed with handguns. Stop being retarded.
>>335306939
I've always thought it would be kinda cool to have armor like Blacklight Retribution. That game is pretty shitty but I like the armor designs.
I think the idea is that it's full frontal face armor, with cameras/electronics to help you see.
>>335298537
r6 siege
>>335297918
Good sounds, good animations, good simulation of weight and recoil, good reaction from whatever you're shooting.
>>335307185
I wonder if in the future, fully protected helmet coverings with cooling fans inside will be a standardized thing.
Cameras and electronics assisting you to see outside can pose a problem if they go down but still mite b cool
>>335303112
>Bae Systems
>>335305436
Medicine is designed to heal people and it kills many many more every day.
>>335307126
That's ridiculous, just because two cities banned them will clearly not produce the desired changes when one could just go a short jaunt into the next country and by them. Laws that enforce something like a ban or other restrictions must actually be global, and limiting, otherwise they clearly will have little deterrent power.
Also I didn't call for an outright ban, I called for some additional regulation and legal reform.
>>335303037
i love KF2's animations
>all that sexy jiggle
>>335298608
An accidental discharge can occasionally happen. Good thing he's in a range with his gun pointed towards the range.
No one actually got hurt except the guy's pride for screwing up once.
I'm guessing you have never seen a gun fire in real life or been to a range.
You act like you can get instant AIDS from even being near a gun.
Be realistic. You should try new things. Maybe a day at the range will at least make you see why people like to shoot guns.
