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Whats the best ''souls'' game
PC only users not allowed
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DaS3
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In terms of gameplay? Bloodborne. In terms of atmosphere? Demon's Souls. In terms of best overall?

Dark Souls 3.
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Dark Souls 1 > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2

I only played a little of Demon's so I won't rate it but it seemed really good
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Pic related.
Only game the feel cohesive in the entire series. Everything else feels like indie dev tier.
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Bloodborne.
The rest is for casual kiddies, no exceptions.
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>>335233281
OP here
I agree
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>>335233190
We need to have a fuckint consensus on whether or not Bloodborne is a Souls game or not because it seems to be either depending on when its convenient for anyone.
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>>335233281
>implying dark souls 3 has the best gameplay and atomosphere
subjective
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Bloodborne easily has the best gameplay, so I'm going to go with that.
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>>335233301
true
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people need to stop pretending BB was perfect 2bh
it's a great game but it has its flaws
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>>335233190
BB is not souls game

/thread
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>>335233190
Bloodborne. It has more flavor than a mexican taco. DS3 is just rehashed....garbage...easy garbage....
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>>335233467
>Bloodborne easily has the best gameplay
Yes
thats right, I still like dark souls games a lot but bloodborne is refinedment
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Unironically speaking, it's Bloodborne, simply because it held my attention so well, I felt the urge to finish it much more than the other games. The others games are more slower burners though, the sense of progression of traditional souls is superior, its a longer and more deeper experience. Bloodborne on the other hand feels like a hard and fast rush that just smashes your mind with its brilliant artistyle, alluuring lore and world design and its combat.
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>>335233190

These threads have been shat on ever since Bloodborne came out. Sony fanboys regardless of argument will choose Bloodborne and shitpost le golden face man
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>>335233509
its not perfect
its close to it
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>>335233513
I want to fuck Emily to be quite honest.
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It's a matter of opinion but the first Dark Souls will always be my favourite because it was my first souls game Bloodborne is a close second
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>>335233441

Can you read?
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>>335233560
Yeah spamming r1 is best gameplay
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Stop responding to these threads already you retards
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>frame perfect action games in 30fps
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They missed Demon Souls, and Bloodborne. And possibly BB2. If you want to play it, get the hardware for it.
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>>335233564
i am a sonygger but i reallly love dark souls 3
i love both bloodborne and dark souls 3
i prefer bloodborne cause it efines the formula and it has a unique concept
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>>335233190
Haven't played BB or DS3, so first Dark Souls reigns supreme over DeS and DaS2, though they all have superior aspects to them
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>>335233628
sorry
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>>335233509

BB is easily my favorite but it's very flawed. The flaws in my opinion however were chalices, gems, and online connectivity.
The foundation of the game is rock solid. The combat, atmosphere, movesets, pacing, enemy design, boss design, and level are best-in-series or equal in my opinion.
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>>335233636
shitposter confirmed
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>>335233190
>best ''souls'' game
Lords of the Fallen :^)
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>>335233830

Here's your you, boy.
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>>335233413
It's not a souls game only according to salty buttravaged PC cunts. Are their opinion isn't relevant.
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>>335233190
Demon's Souls has excellent atmosphere and level design.
Dark Souls has the best combat and world building.
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test
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>>335233190
Nothing beats Dark Souls 3. It surpasses vanilla Bloodborne, Dark Souls 1 + dlc, Dark Souls 2 + dlcs.
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Bloodborne.
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>>335233190
definitely dark souls 2, maybe not in terms of atmosphere but in general
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>>335233932
It was the PS4 casuals who decided to not be part of "Souls" community.
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>>335233981
>Dark Souls has the best combat and world building.
come on now
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>>335234059
Buttravaged PC cunt confirmed.
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>>335234010
>It surpasses vanilla Bloodborne
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>>335234060
Why don't you go back to tapping that R1 some more.
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>>335234094
It's fine if the casuals want to make their own hugbox, going all "everyone's stupid but me!".

Just don't expect to be taken very seriously when you do.
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>>335234123
Here is your reply (You)
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>>335234123
It does.

We can't judge it on BB + Old Hunters until its own DLC is out.
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>>335234128
>Why don't you go back to tapping that R1 some more.
this is stupid arguement
stop acting like a fanboy
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>>335234123
buttmad BBfag confirmed
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BB > DaS = DaS 3 > DeS > DaS 2 > Not playing videogames > Lords of the Fallen
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>>335234183
Whatever floats your goat my buttblasted friend.
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okay probably demon souls then bloodbourne they are the *perfect* games, it's such a shame the dark souls series was so bad in comparison
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>>335234223
>>335234220
OP here
I said PCucks are not allowed
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>>335234226
>stating facts about about game's nature is now "fanboyism"
They fixed the extremely attack and DPS oriented combat of DeS with Dark Souls by making whether you land a hit matter more than how much damage you did. It's a shame they forgot everything they learned somewhere in making of Dark Souls II and Bloodborne.
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>>335234227
>>335234290
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>>335234236
>being this mad at /dsg/autists
lel
BBfags just get triggered left and right like more often tumblr landwhales.
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>>335234325
>They fixed the extremely attack and DPS oriented combat of DeS with Dark Souls by making whether you land a hit matter more than how much damage you did. It's a shame they forgot everything they learned somewhere in making of Dark Souls II and Bloodborne.
completely false
i said pcucks not allowed
can you read?
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>>335233190
I'm a PC only user (although I finished demon's souls on release)

Fuck you OP, I'm posting anyway
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>>335234435
you shouldn't
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>>335234290
>Whats the best ''souls'' game?
>If you don't say BB then you're a PCuck.

Why ask if you already decided what you want to hear?
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>>335234123
BB's dlc was good

not the original game's bosses
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>>335234409
>Dark Souls improves the Demon's Souls combat and gameplay in tons of ways
>Noooooooooo it doesn't count because it's also on PC!
What's the deal with the Sony fanboys?
I remember when you guys were still trying to blame the 360 players, before the PC port happened.
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>>335233190
>best gameplay, overall polish
Dark Souls 3

>best atmosphere
Dark Souls

Bloodborne would rate as a very good standalone game, but i don't consider it different to souls game due to its emphasis on aggressive playstyle, trick weapons, limited magic and evasion game.
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>>335234514
Well, a few of them were. But yeah less than DaS3's vanilla bosses.
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>>335234496
you still don't get it
you can honestly state whats your favorite but only if you played all of them
you didn't play bloodborne
thus not allowed to post
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>>335234496
See >>335234183
Circlejerk is what they're into, apparently.
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>>335234392
I know, right, I'm practically crying right now because some random faggot on an anonymous chinese cartoon website called the game that I got to play and he never will stupid.
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>>335234552
stop being a pc fanboy please
You pc cucks aqlways destry threads about games
stop for once with your sick fanboism and get out of a souls thread
it belongs to sony not pc
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>>335234514
This. And considering how big part bosses are to Souls games, I couldn't help but also feel let down by this.

The style, graphics and the atmosphere are what carry Bloodborne on rather than the gameplay, only being bested by Demon's Souls in atmosphere.
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>>335234753
>replying to yourself
not pathetic
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>>335234686
>get views on why games are good
>game isn't sonyboy's favorite
>nooooooooooo you PCucks ruin everything!

Like a little baby.
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>>335234753
>he style, graphics and the atmosphere are what carry Bloodborne on rather than the gameplay,
Only bloodborne refines and improves gameplay of the souls formula
i am sure that doesn't matter though casuse its not on PC
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>>335234590

I've played everything except dark souls 2. Bloodborne easily has the best story and atmosphere. Gameplay is a discussion however.
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>>335234824
butthurt
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>>335234891
>Gameplay is a discussion however.
wat?
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>>335234590
So I guess it's literally impossible to play DSIII and Bloodborne and think that DS might be better.

Should have just said that you want a BB hugbox thread.
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>>335234792
Don't hurr just because I criticized Sony's only interesting game, it's nowhere near perfect.
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>>335234792
>two people share an opinion
>must be samefag
sup, underage
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DaS3 > BB > DaS1 > DeS > DaS2
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Not Bloodborne
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>>335234963
Did you play bloodborne?
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>>335234963
>So I guess it's literally impossible to play DSIII and Bloodborne and think that DS might be better.
Yes because BB was made with Sony's Japan studio.

This automatically makes it better and if you don't see this then you're a fucking pleb and probably a pcuck
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I didn't like anything about Bloodborne or Dark Souls 2. Demons Souls > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3

Atmosphere, itemization, characters, and music set the earlier games ahead of the rest.
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>>335235034
this
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>>335234908
>fuck i look like an idiot now
>lol i know i'll just call them mad
Noteventrying/10
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>>335235064
>Demons Souls > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3
>he posts a darksouls 3 pic anyway
way to convince us
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>expecting civil discussion on the merits and flaws of each game
>thread devolves into sonygger vs pccucks
t-thanks /v/
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>>335235096
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Bloodborne.

Anyone that says DaS3 is a memeing faggot.

So much fucking pandering
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>>335234563
Meant to say I consider it different, fuck real nigga hour posting
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>>335235034
>>335235093
>made with Japan Studio
>This automatically makes it better
Lol sony fanboys.
This is also another funny delusion because Japan Studio didn't co-develop Bloodborne at all, it was all FROM's own work.
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>>335235150
Don't blame /v/. There was a decent discussion, but OP fucked it up for everyone.
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>>335233190
It baffles me how pc shitters immediately jumped on the DS3 bandwagon.

We still have stuttering at item pickup/autosaves/in-out of menus (no one excluded, it's completely on code side), 1.03.1 made things even worse for a lot of people increasing the stuttering to exploration/combat, shitty multithread support, same console pop-in, some are still crashing, lots of amd users reporting shitty bugs, 770s gone to shit etc.

And then you get
>works on my machine ;^)
mostly coming from toasters.
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>>335233190
Haven't played DaS2 or 3, but Bloodborne is by far my favourite of the lot.

Honestly, if you're PC only, consider just renting a PS4 for the game. It's worth it, it's pretty short unless you intend to dick around online or 100% it. Like 20 hours for no-chalice/old hunter, fairly complete playthrough.

Seriously, even locally, no-lock-in contract console renting will run you 15-20 a week. Cheaper than the game. Consider it.
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Ninja Gaiden Black
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They all have their plus points. DaS1 has the best atmosphere and I think the NPCs and "world building" are the strongest in that game.

DaS2 was massive steps back in several ways but a lot of technical aspects improved like being able to see more summon signs, the ability to enter NG+ at the very start of the game if you wanted to, and being the first game to have a substantive tutorial for new players that could be immediately skipped by everybody else.

BB has by far the nicest aesthetic and the "lore" was a bit more up front and understandable which was nice. A faster paced game was fun too, dont know if its better than the gameplay in DaS1+2 but it's different and very enjoyable.

DaS3 just seems to have addressed the main issues with 2 (soul memory, lots of "large man with weapon" bosses, lack of cohesive aesthetic/theme, shitty enemy placement) and brought back the cool shit from 1 in its place while keeping tighter faster gameplay and a big variety of (mostly useless) weapons and armours. Soundtrack is also incredible. Only issue I have with 3 is the enemy types in a lot of areas even so far through the game as izalith are reskins of DaS1 enemies maybe with a new move.
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Why do some people hate Bloodborne?
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>PvE

Bloodborne

>PvP

Probably DaS3

>Story

BB

>Design/Atmosphere

DeS/BB
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>>335235221
bloodborne is a new fresh masterpice
fact
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>>335235381
>I am a BBfag

Here. Shortened your post
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>>335235258
>here was a decent discussion, but OP fucked it up for everyone.
i don't think op is the problem here>>335234496
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Objectively DaS is the best, and by far
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>>335235334
it's just another souls game but with 1000% less exploration, things to find, frame rates, and difficulty. it's not worth going out of your way for.
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>>335235228
>>335234563
I think they should have made Bloodborne much more different than Souls was. It's way too much like DaS/DeS for it's own good, and those elements mix poorly with what changes BB wants to implement.
They should have taken more other games as example on what to do and even how the gameplay should play. If they wanted fast combat, they should have taken notes from action games like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden, especially the latter still focuses on hard hits just like BB but pulls the combat off way better.
Instead they just repurposed their previous games, which was okay between DeS and DaS because they're meant to be similar, but BB was planned as a separate thing.
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>>335235381
>>PvP
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>Probably DaS3

You're either baiting or mispelled DS2.
DS3 has the worst netcode and summoning/invasion system out of all 5 games
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If you don't play PvP in any dark souls your a massive faggot. That's 90% of the game anyways also bloodborne isn't a souls game and nobody in the company liked the Victorian era theme so they went back to implement artwork and design into the newest one which I think is great. Not saying bloodborne is bad but the PvP was lacking alot (didn't have to play or see much gameplay of it to see it) also demon souls on ps3 to dark souls to 360 to DS 2 PC and ds3 to PC
Dark souls 2
Dark souls 3
Dark souls 1
Bloodborne
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>>335235334
this
just rent a ps4 and play it
are you so poor pcucks?
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>>335235476
>I didn't play the game
the post
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>>335235476
I highly disagree on every account. The amount of optional content in Bloodborne is insane, and the framerate has been patched to fuck.
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>>335235483

PvP in DaS3 is pretty much ideal as it is. You can Dickwraith, you can have fag duels, or you can be an absolute madman and be a Purple.

DS2 made invading pretty much a NG+ only thing, and the PvP covenants were trash as fuck. The Rat covenant was boring, and the bell queers is nothing but 4 randos vs 1 guy trying to outrun all the shitters and the midget dark dwarfs.
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>>335234010
this looks great.

my new wallpaper

thx anno
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>>335235483
DaS2 has the smoothest online play, which is pretty good for the sort of casual play and faceoffs you're meant to have on the journey, but Dark Souls 1's PvP definitely has the deepest mechanics so far. But that's also a problem because players can get ridiculously good at it and end up turning off a lot of beginners away from the very demanding and even unintuitive PvP.
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>>335235580
>You can Dickwraith

No you can't, not properly.

>and the PvP covenants were trash as fuck.

You have a dogshit opinion. The covenants in 2 were way more fun and interesting than 3.
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>>335235580
>DS2 made invading pretty much a NG+ only thing
I'll never understand why people say this.

As soon as I reached blood arena, I pvp'd long enough to make a nice stack of CREOs, then just started invading with plenty of ease.
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Dark Souls 3 is PERFECT
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>>335233281
BB has better atmosphere than DeSo.
BB's world is amazing.
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ATTENTION
dark souls only fag
you can start a thread saying ''Whats the best Dark Souls game''
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>>335235460

Nah, I think >>335234290 >>335234409 >>335233932 is the main problem.
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>>335235556
I did play it.

>>335235576
It's not an opinion so you're just droning. BB has the least of all the Souls games and the frame rate sucks compared to the titles on PC, what we've been used to for years.
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>>335235790
>It's not an opinion
Except it is.

You're just dismissing any argument thrown your way, and any words you type aren't worth the time to read them.

Enjoy getting the last word, I'm out.
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>>335235790
>compared to the titles on PC

We had such a good community, too.
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>>335233190
Setting goes to BloodBorne, DaS3 overall though.
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>>335235693

Compare that to invading any time you fucking want in DaS3. Blood covenant was so gay.
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>>335235790
>BB has the least of all the Souls games and the frame rate sucks compared to the titles on PC
PKEK confirmed
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>>335235870
>>335235962
Did I mention how fucking terrible the PVP is? Stay wrong, retards.

>>335235870
It was only good in Demons Souls days.
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I played BB at a friend's house. It's literally Dark Souls with only one color, chromatic aberration and no shields. I'm going with Dark Souls 3 for a more complete game.
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>>335235790
Dark Souls II ran pretty well on 360 by comparison.
I really didn't like how they went from 30-45FPS of DaS2 to 24-30FPS in BB. BB also stutters a lot, taking these weird pauses.
Dark Souls III also has the same problem though, even on PC. And I've installed it on SSD and have 16GB RAM so it's not that.

FROM's technology somehow went to shitter with 8th gen, just as they were starting to get it together. The games don't look that much better either.
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>>335236000
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>>335235693
I invaded a lot thanks to the Agape Ring.

Man I even considering coming back to that game but it's probably dead now
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>>335235435

As someone who bought a PS3 just to play Demon's Souls at launch, I can say that Bloodborne is the only one that feels genuinely exhilarating in the way that DeS and DaS used to be.

DaS2 was god awful as every ones, but DaS3 is a very, very good game. The big problem with it is that almost every single aspect of the game is tied to "Hey, remember how cool this was in DaS1???"

Makes for nice nostalgia, but a lot of uninspired ideas.
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>>335236004
>I played BB at a friend's house.
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>>335236021
From never had good technology, the swamps in the first two games ran like shit too.
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>>335236004
The later areas do look different, you wouldn't judge a whole game by Undead Burg/Parish or Boletaria Castle either.
But it's true that it's just the same game with bit of specific flavor.
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>>335236098
>DaS2 was god awful as every ones, but DaS3 is a very, very good game. The big problem with it is that almost every single aspect of the game is tied to "Hey, remember how cool this was in DaS1???"
>Makes for nice nostalgia, but a lot of uninspired ideas.
I agree
I still like dark souls 3 its a very good game but its not original
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>>335235349
>Bloodborne
Enemies talk to you sometimes, bosses sometimes talk to you, there are more talkative characters with interesting things to say overall.

>DaS
Reeeee
Uhhhhh
REEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Aaaaaaagh
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>335236107
>He bought a PS4
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>>335235556

Actually the horrible framerate, and shit bosses made the game pretty unmemorable for me. I love the Lovecraftian aesthetic though. It's not the best souls, but it's miles better than DSII. Though I'd have to say Dark Souls III is my favorite.
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>>335236189
>there are more talkative characters with interesting things to say overall.

For bosses maybe, but there is a significant lack of NPCs in the game. Hell about half of the dialogue in the game is from people hiding behind doors that'll never open
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>>335236114
It was never good but at least Dark Souls was already easy enough to run on the PCs of time when it came out without extra lag, and Dark Souls II ran smoothly without the weird stutter.

In Dark Souls III, I'm hanging at Firelink Shrine and hitting 100% GPU usage when there simply isn't much to show for it, just some bricks on the wall. Any time I pick up an item the game takes a small pause.
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>>335236249
>Actually the horrible framerate, and shit bosses made the game pretty unmemorable for me.
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>>335235878

This picture is so fucking spot on. I was afraid the multiplatform release would ruin the series, but it just made it more vocal, but it didn't truly die until the mustards ruined it.
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>>335236189
>Bloodborne has more NPCs than DS3
Does it seriously? Because DS3 has a fuckton of NPCs for you to interact.
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>>335236249
>pcucks
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>>335236384
"Oh, great unkindled one! Can I blah blah blah blah blah blah can I be a shopkeeper in the Firelink Shrine? Yes? Great!"
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>>335233190
Bloodborne.

Lets face the facts here, it's more polished, finished and tight than any of the Souls games. The gameplay is more challenging and fun, the weapons are creative and all are perfectly viable so you can go with whichever you want, the atmosphere is through the roof, the setting/lore is more unique than any of their Souls games and it has by far the best OST, even objectively speaking as it's entirely made with real instruments for once and it shows. The same composer also has the best tracks on DaS3 so it's no wonder.

And fuck off with the sonygger bullshit. I am a pkek at heart, I played all the Souls games on PC except DeS with which I got the EU version on PS3. I don't care about console wars, Bloodborne is just better.
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>>335236372
PC version is ported xbone dark souls.
Can't really blame PC for complaining about it
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>>335236384

No, it doesn't. Not even close.
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>>335236382
>I'm so mad that PC gamers got to play Dark Souls - a hardcore game for hardcore gamers such as myself - the post
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>>335236249
>Actually the horrible framerate, and shit bosses

Spot the PC clown.
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>>335233668
>Souls
>ever frame perfect
The games are slow as shit, this isn't DMC
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>>335233281

I AGREE!
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>>335236432
>>335236372

>consolefags ok playing mediocre games that run at buttery smooth 15fps.
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>>335236526
Absolutelly
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>>335236526
>bloodborne
>polished
Nope.
I was actually surprised with how unpolished the game was, considering I'm sure the past titles had evoked plenty of criticism about such things.
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>>335236468
you forgot
>uses *homeward bone*
in terms of number of NPCs, they were simliar to BB, but I guess Dks3 npc questlines were more convoluted, if that can be considered a virtue
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>>335236527
>pcucks still mad
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>>335236550

The day the game launched this place was full of "artificial difficulty" topics for days. That's if the threads weren't about people not knowing how to get dsfix.
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>>335233281
>n terms of gameplay? Bloodborne. In terms of atmosphere? Demon's Souls
then if bloodborne has the best gameplay and demons sousl has the best atmosphere
how dark sousl 3 is the best?
your post makes no sense
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>>335236578
Go vsync off, DWGR and BSS/Longsword/Gaytana, no shield. Even at 30FPS precise action is helluva fun in these games.
Bad players who can't time actions are the ones who complain about the game feeling imprecise. The only real requirement to play like this is lack of frame drops since those can fuck your timings pretty bad.
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>>335236098
>uninspired ideas

show ur work fag
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>>335236595
>>consolefags ok playing mediocre games that run at buttery smooth 15fps.
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More importantly, who is the strongest player character in all of the souls games?
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>>335236750
you need to be at least 18 to post here
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>>335236610
How do you find it unpolished? Or even more unpolished than the other Souls games?
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>>335236656
400 meme machines
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>>335236526
I'd agree if it didn't run so horribly. Memeing aside a poor frame-rate in an action game just can't be ignored, it's the very core of the game

DaS > DeS = DaS3 > BB > DaS2
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>>335236718
Little timmy on their PC gets rekt and goes to forums
Little tommy on their PS3 gets rekt and doesn't boot up his toaster just to go shitpost on /v/ because he has no friends who are into computers or internet

Blaming the casuals and the underage as "PC gamers" is naive as shit. Both have been a pretty big problem ever since the 7th gen started dying and people migrated from there as well as Steam gaining popularity, roping in the underages with couple of free games.
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>>335233281
I like BB's atmosphere better too but agree with the rest.
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>>335236792

>firelink is just the Nexus
>hey look it's onion knight
>hey look it's patches
>hey look it's the catacombs
>hey look it's anor londo
>hey look it's Ornstein (AGAIN)
>Sunfags (seriously, why? enough with this shit)
>hey look it's Havel
>remember Gwynn?

That's not even mentioning the weapons, items, armor, etc that's everywhere else. I get that it's a sequel, but they just tried a little too hard to hammer in the nostalgia.
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>>335236806
Vanilla DS2 guy
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>Bloodborne is actually good

I hate this meme.
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>>335236889
>reddit
whats next?
9gag jokes?
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>>335236990
>>Bloodborne is actually good
>I hate this meme.
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>>335236875
It's not more unpolished than other Souls games, but it definitely carries the exact same signs of rush as the other ones do as well, only fixing very few small mistakes from previous games. Dark Souls III clearly builds up on this once more, adding its own small improvements, but
it has taken FROM a lot of time to slowly make small changes and fixes. Unreasonably slow. I'm mostly disappointed with how little progress they're making in the areas that are lacking, so rather than something specific about BB it's the same problems I always had with DeS/DaS as well.
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>>335236526
Agree, other than the challenging bit.

Bloodborne is designed with the idea in mind that you are extremely powerful, to the point that boss fights are more about the bosses attempting to fight you rather than you trying to survive against them, as in Demon's/Dark Souls.

You're meant to feel weak and disadvantaged in Souls and still somehow persevere, in Bloodborne you're the boss.
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>>335233668
Are you in every fucking thread?
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>>335237059

xDDD
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>>335237183
>You're meant to feel weak and disadvantaged in Souls and still somehow persevere, in Bloodborne you're the boss.
you still get your ass kicked though
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>>335237281
xd
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>>335236098
i agree with your points, actually. they did try a little too hard to add in shoe-in references to earlier dark souls.

however, granted that it's the last entry in the series, i can forgive them a little. and it doesn't change the fact that i believe it's still the best in terms of overall polish and gameplay. level design and atmosphere still get beat out by dark souls, though.
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>>335237009
Content is content boy
New fags don't even kno
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>>335237427

It's a great game. The only thing I think about is how great the original Dark Souls would be with these mechanics.
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>>335237495
>New fags
obvious redditor
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>>335233782
BB is the worst second worst souls game when you don't count DLC.
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>>335233190
only sonyggers disagree
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>>335236893
The framerate was rough for me in the beginning but I got used to it in the end, so it's easy enough for me to look past it. 60 FPS would definitely have been wonderful though, but the lack of it isn't enough to make me rate it lower than the other games, or more like the things I like about it are good enough to make up for it.
>>335237182
Well that's pretty vague but alright. My point was that it was the more polished game out of the whole series, not that it was perfectly polished without flaws.
>>335237183
I don't really agree with that. You are a hunter sure, but you're also a rookie. I still got the feeling that I was fighting things way more powerful than me, they had scary and nasty designs, they were very aggressive and their attacks hurt like hell. I've played through Bloodborne quite a few times now there are still bosses there that I have more trouble with than I had with any boss on my first run of DaS3.
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>>335237631
>BB is the worst second worst souls game when you don't count DLC.
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>>335237643
I think it's sad seeing sonyggers try so hard to defend their one exclusive. I don't have a ps4, but I played BB religiously with a friend when it came out. While I do agree that Bloodborne + TOH is better than DS3, I just can't take someone seriously when they say vanilla BB was better than DS3. Maybe on ps4, but game looks amazing on PC with 60 fps.
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>>335236098
>As someone who bought a PS3 just to play Demon's Souls at launch
Literally no one did this. DeS was a completely unhyped sleeper hit that very slowly became just a little bit bigger by word of mouth, without every actually getting big like DaS did.
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>>335237643
nice fake image of bloodborne cover
>Pcucks that desperate that they make fake images bb
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>>335237710
DeS > BB in every way except sound quality and graphics.
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>>335237427
They really had easier time when they were working within blank canvas.
Not talking about the mechanics, but things like the new characters and countries Dark Souls II introduced were good just the way they were in Dark Souls 1. You almost always get better results when you try to create something original instead of just continuing on already good thing. Same thing with Dark Souls III, you have plenty of new things, but then you suddenly see the exact same armor that you've associated with something completely else, totally another world. Things like Abyss Watchers were great because they were clearly strongly related to Artorias, but it's not like they're carrying the exact same sword, just shaping theirs similarly. It would have been cool to see how a long time changed how Elite Knight set or Catarina set would have evolved over time because that's also something armors and equipment did in medieval times.
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>>335237747
>when they say vanilla BB was better than DS3. Maybe on ps4, but game looks amazing on PC with 60 fps.
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>>335237747
nigga, that's what the image says

ds3 > BB

how's your eyesight?
in case of bad education
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater-than_sign
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>>335237801
>DeS > BB in every way except sound quality and graphics.
you are still a pcuck and you don't own a ps3 or a ps4
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>gameplay
BB>DaS3>>>>DaS1=DeS>>>DaS2
>atmosphere
BB>DeS>DaS1=DaS3>>>DaS2
>aesthetics
BB>DaS3>DaS1=DeS>>>DaS2
>lore
BB>everything else really
>Setting
BB>DaS3>DeS>DaS1>>>DaS2
>music
BB>DaS3>DaS1=DeS>>>DaS2
>PVP
DaS3>BB>DaS1>DeS>DaS2
>variety in playstyles and builds
DaS2=DaS3>DaS1>DeS>BB
>level design
DaS3=BB>DaS>DeS>DaS2

BB has slightly better melee combat but suffers when it comes to variety.
DaS3 has the second best combat, and still retains the variety for other styles

Overall, I think DaS3 right now is just a tad short of BB in quality, but with DLC, DaS3 will definitely be better.
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>>335237838
Are you implying fps don't make a game better? I mean I liked BB a lot, but you seriously can't defend the drops and claim they didn't have an impact on the overall experience. But whatever, just keep spamming your meme pictures rather than make a cohesive argument.

>>335237846
I was agreeing with you.
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>>335236741
It means that DaS3 stands in the middle. Good gameplay, good atmosphere, while BB has great gameplay and Demon Souls has great atmosphere.
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>>335236741
try thinking
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>>335237747
>game looks amazing on PC with 60 fps
You can't be serious. The graphics look mediore as shit with like one nice looking area because the art direction behind it was very good, but even that doesn't change the fact that the lighting, shading and lack of shadows is awful.
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>>335237643
hahahaha!
he printed a bloodborne image and he tried to make a fake cover out of it !
Pathetic !
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Is Bloodborne the most shitposted game in history?
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>>335237760

Asia version was out for a while before Atlus chose to bring it over, numbnuts. Plenty of people got it at launch.
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>>335237801
This.
Demon's Souls had great level and enemy design. Now that BB is out the PS4cucks will try to belittle the game but Demon's Souls wasn't just important as fuck to Dark Souls, it was a damn good game by its own merits.
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>>335237915
epic post friend.
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>>335233190

shitposting thread lol
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>>335237923
>It means that DaS3 stands in the middle
then how is the best cuck?
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>>335237878
>I have shit taste therefore I call other people pcuck

>>335237915
How to spot the poorfag with 24 FPS

>>335237982
Good to know some people still have taste.
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Imagine the ass explosions if they announce Bloodborne 2 being a multiplat.
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Dark Souls > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls III > Bloodborne >>>>> Dark Souls II
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>>335238023
Never said it's the best in my opinion. Personally I prefer DaS1 and then BB right after it.
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>>335237950
Idk man. I think it looks pretty good at 1440p/60fps. Definitely the best looking souls game. Character models and some textures were lacking though. Graphics mods should fix that though, and make everything else look even better.
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>>335238043

IP is literally Sony owned
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>>335233932

Actually MIYAZAKI himself calls them "Souls and Bloodborne games", "Soulsborne" is the most stupid term I have ever heard on this site since "Pcuck" which also makes no sense and people who seriously believe bloodborne to be a souls game need to fucking hang themselves immediately since even armored core has "souls" features yet nobody fucking calls it a souls game.
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>>335237980
Some people did yeah, but buying a PS3 just for a game like that? Sounds real dodgy to me.

But I agree with what you said anyway, so whatever.
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>>335237920
>Are you implying fps don't make a game better?
yes
the only ones who believe that is redditors and facebookers
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>>335237747
>but game looks amazing on PC with 60 fps

you fucking lying piece of shit
The port is abysmal, costantly stutters on my 980 3770k 16gb ram on ssd.
It has the same graphic presets as ps4, same shitty pop-in, same shitty textures.

Stop sucking FROM cock, chinese have small ones anyway
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>>335238031
>Demon's Souls
>shit
And here we have the PS4cuck, defending his only game on his obsolete console.
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>>335238043
what does sony have to lose if they do ?
pc users won't buy a ps4 no matter what, we don't play 30 fps games
they might as well get the money from the software sales right ?
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>>335238031
but you are a pcuck
>>
Without DLC:
DaS3 > DaS = DeS > BB >> SotFS >>>>> DaS2

With DLC:
BB > DaS > DeS > SotFS >> DaS2

obviously you can't include DaS3 yet
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>>335238120
>but buying a PS3 just for a game like that?

It's also the year that Sony released the slim PS3 for $300, so it was the perfect time to buy one.
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>>335237915
>expecting me to read this clusterfuck of text

meme arrows have gone too far
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>>335233190
>PC only users not allowed
Try to stop me faggot!
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>>335237983
Are you implying I'm some salty PCcuck? BB is my favorite game of all time, do you want me to post a time stamp too?
>>335238031
hot opinions anon, well memed
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>>335238142
>not having a 980ti
runs smoothly for me. Try not being a poorfag.
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DaS > DeS >>> DS3 > BB >>> DS2
Demon's Souls was amazing but when compared to Dark Souls it is pretty much just a little bit worse by almost all metrics.

Bloodborne and Bloodborne 2, ahem I mean Dark Souls 3, both contain 1 massive flaw that holds them back from being up there with DeS and DaS and that is it's one-dimensional play style (roll spam into attack into roll spam repeat) that results in shit replayability and low build diversity. DS3 wouldn't have fallen into this category if the bosses didn't get buffed halfway through every one of them. DS3 > BB because DS3 PvP is actually fun and rewarding.

Dark Souls 2 is in it's own category by somehow fucking up everything DaS and DeS did right. From soul memory killing low level PvP, to tying rolling i-frames to a stat, DS2 was a just one misstep after another. Also DS2 DLC was a huge hit or miss and the only reason people praise it is because it seems much better when compared to DS2 base. That trio gank squad boss is right up there with Bed of Chaos as it being the worst boss in the series.

>Gameplay
Dark Souls 1 > rest
Souls at it's best hands down. You can viably beat the game with any weapon or play style available and it feels good doing so. Power Within +70 INT+ Crystal Magic + RTR makes even normally boring caster runs fun just because you are available to choose exactly how risk/reward you want to play/

>PvP
Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 > rest
lots of good PvP locations for twinks, duels, and normal invading.
DS3 second because it's just better than the rest and has found a way for twinks to less of an issue with weapon leveling and SL taken into account VS just SL or *shudder* Soul Memory.

>Story/Lore/Atmosphere
Who fucking cares, seriously.

>Music
Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 >rest
Final boss themes for both these games fit the bosses perfectly. 10/10 ending.
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>>335238172
They pretend keeping it on consoles will benefit them because they believe they'll get more cash from console sales than if they made it multiplat, which is honestly a joke.
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>>335238087
True, they need all the IP`s they can hold, otherwise none would buy their toaster anymore.

>>335238172
They would gain butthurt sonycucks.
And they might make BB2 a flagship game for their new PS4.5/2
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>>335238224
Actually never mind, I was a complete retard and read it wrong. good list.
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>>335238080
>Graphics mods should fix that though, and make everything else look even better.
memesters everywhere
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>>335238206
Its not my fault you have crippling autism and can't read.
I'm sorry for your loss, I truly am
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>>335233190
>best ''souls'' game
>best

this is hilarious, they made 5 (FIVE) times the same game, but people are still arguing about which one is the best
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>>335238128
>this is what consolecucks actually believer
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Now I see why you thought BB was better. I heard DS3 runs even worse on PS4 than BB did. I feel so bad for you.
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>>335238169
Do you even know how to read?

>>335238187
>>>/reddit/

>>335238235
Nostalgia fagging at its peak
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>>335238234
how is that setup poorfag?
bitter mustard or sonygger? which one are you?
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>>335238234
its runs at a perfect 60 on a 960 kek
pc games have options menu
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>>335238118
>"Soulsborne" is the most stupid term I have ever heard on this site since "Pcuck"
pcuck confirmed
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>>335233249
>>335233281
>>335233290
>>335234230
>>335234563
>>335234998
>>335235381
>>335235580
>>335236893
>>335237915
Is this a fucking troll? Why is everyone so high on DS3? It's the worst in the series.

>linear as fuck; forces you to go in order
>enemies have more health than other games, literally making for artificial difficulty
>you can summon three helpers consequence-free, because you never get invaded
>on the rare chance you do get invaded, the game gives preference to people who have helpers summoned, making the whole thing pointless
>generic, unimaginative enemy placements; there are no special enemies like the forest cats in Dark Souls
>more generic armored enemies than Dark Souls 2
>bosses are almost all the same: lumbering douchebags who jump at you

Fuck this shit game.

Dark Souls > Bloodborne ≥ Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 3
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>>335238326
you're lying tho
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>>335238321
>Do you even know how to read?
No I don't I guess.
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>>335238031
Nice fake cover
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>>335238142
I have a 750ti and I can run the game 60 fps on medium settings :I

I think it's mostly CPU demanding. Stutters only happen to me when entering new areas for about a second or two.
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>>335238326
>still having a 980 after 980ti came out
>not upgrading as soon as a new card is announced
I'm not even replying to you anymore poofag. Besides my friend has a 970 and he has no problems running DS3 at 1080p at 60fps. You're either a retard that can't into pc gaming, or a liar.
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>>335238293
I can read family, you just wrote your opinions in the most obnoxious way possible.
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>>335238221
reddit
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>>335238289
How is that a meme? Dark Souls 2 got a shitload of lighting and texture mods before SotFS came out, and it made the game looks almost as good as it, if not better.
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>>335237283
Against a few bosses, maybe. Depends on your skill. The ease and speed of quickstepping with any weapon is an enormous advantage, not to even mention Regain.

And sure you can wait until the last second to dodge in Souls too but you'll never look or feel as powerful.

>>335237653
Ah, just a difference of opinion. The speed of your dodge in Bloodborne makes it improbable that you'll get hit at all, provided you're paying proper attention.

In all of these games the bosses have felt frightening and more powerful than you, obviously, Bloodborne was the only one to make me feel equal or superior to such monsters.
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>>335238235
>Bloodborne and Bloodborne 2, ahem I mean Dark Souls 3,
never ever bloodborne on pc
accept it kid
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>>335235483
DS3 has the most fun invasion system of them all. Being a grape is the best, even if you get paired against 3 other guys, when another grape or red phantom invades, the total chaos it ensues is what makes pvp so good
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>>335238303
>HAHAHAHAHAHA. Now I see why you thought BB was better. I heard DS3 runs even worse on PS4 than BB did. I feel so bad for you.
>framerate is a game !
this is what youtube and reddit does to you kid
>>
I never thought I'd see people being so fucking smug about dropping $460 on one game.
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>>335238364
>linear
no it isn't.
Its more linear than others, sure, but that doesnt mean its bad, nor does it mean that its completely linear
>enemies have more health
so fights are actually fights, and not 1 or 2 shot backstab circlefests like in DeS or DaS?
>you can summon three helpers
I dont see an issue. Invasions are really common too, the fuck you on about
>on the rare chance that...
just like every souls game? Hosts have always had the advantage, dont fucking try to claim otherwise
>there are no special enemies like the forest cats in DaS
This is just a blatant lie and it shows how stupid you really are
>generic armored enemies
I dont see the problem if the enemies are good
The problem in DAS2 was that the enemies werent good.
>bosses are almost all the same
They have similarity in movesets, true.
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>>335238482
>How is that a meme? Dark Souls 2 got a shitload of lighting and texture mods before SotFS came out, and it made the game looks almost as good as it, if not better.
stop waqtching this cancerous total biscuit guy kid
it infected you poor limited brain
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>>335238568
Framerate isn't the whole game, but it definitely enhances the experience. I have no problem playing a 30fps game, as long as it's steady, but there's no denying that 60 makes it much better. But I can tell you have never played at 60fps, since you're a sonygger, so you don't understand.
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>>335238364
>it's the worst in the series

I know you're a troll, but at least try a little harder. 2 is easily the worst in the series and everybody agrees.
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>>335238436
Like I said, I'm sorry you have crippling autism.
I hope you can survive it, stay strong.
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