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WE ARE THE MEMEPERIAL NAVEH
>suck dick at this game
>start a new admiral as Chaos
>haven't lost yet
Balance is so fucking awful
>>335198452
What kind fleet u usin senpai
>>335198741
Carriers with improved lances.
It's literally impossible to lose. I'm not even memeing.
>>335198890
what if they hide in the gas cloud forever? Also how do you deal with eldar?
Sell this game to me.
>>335198990
giant void cathedrals in space sea ramming massive other cathedrals, edgy cathedrals, ramshamckle masses of metal held only together by sheer WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK and gay space elf sail boats
>>335198954
>what if they hide in the gas cloud forever?
Attach the probes to their ship so they're never outside your range of vision.
>Also how do you deal with eldar?
99% of them are garbage, but since I stack carriers all I need to do is keep my range and spam boarders since they have garbage troop values. Once their engines are destroyed you just hit them with out lance barrage and it's over.
Chaos is so fucking stupid. I hate playing them but there's literally no reason to play another faction.
Fucking eldar
Watched some videos
The guns look and sound unsatisfying as fuck
>>335199592
>Hating Chaos
LOYALIST PIG, DEATH TO THE CORPSE EMPEROR
>>335199592
post your fleet fag
I'm chaos and I can't seem to get anything right
>>335198452
What is Nova cannon what is Eldar pulsar and sails and everything else what is Ork mag gun
>People actually saying Chaos is OP.
They suck. They cant get away fast enough to kite properly.
Hey guys is it true that if your ship gets destroyed enough you lose everything on that ship eventually?
Because the 3rd time my ship blew up I had to buy a whole new one with new crew and upgrades and everything
>>335200275
I don't hate Chaos, I hate kiting in a game that's supposed to be about crazy broadside trades and rams and tactics.
>>335200309
I'm not home, but basically all you need to do is stack ships with carriers/lances.
Upgrade the carrier cooldown, upgrade your lance range/damage/etc, get stasis bombs and microwarp jump, get the probe you attach to ships since your range is longer than your vision, and then kite the fuck out of everyone with your bombs, jumps, and 15k range lances and bombers.
It's retardedly OP, and only a competent Eldar player will be able to touch you, and those are rare.
>>335200423
just get the upgrade that allows you to maneuver without breaking stealth
>>335200346
>What is Nova cannon
An inaccurate piece of shit that can't even take out shields
>Eldar pulsar and sails
A geniune counter, but very few players are good enough to pull it off. They usually just end up eating an entire lancer/carrier boarding broadside and die instantly
>Ork
>any threat at all to a Chaos ship
are you trolling?
>>335200572
Aren't Eldar stupidly overpowered in this game?
>>335201294
Not anymore since the release patch.
They're still strong, but you have to be a very solid player to use them now. They're almost always a free win, but sometimes a rare guaranteed loss.
>>335201401
Good luck beating them on a high point space station assault
>>335201294
Yes. They did make it so that only retards die when using eldar.
But if you have anything resembling a brain you can metlagun your way through everything
>When you get a retard as an ally.
>It's an assassinate the Eldar Mission
>>335202538
>YOU HAVE CAPITULATED
Every fucking time, especially when you are winning
>>335203204
>Running around in circles
Is there a way to view all the ships with the favors on them before buying them?
I can't find them on google
>>335204823
I remember they showed all the Chaos ones in one of their trailers.
>>335200346
>What is Nova cannon
A useless piece of shit since the third scatter nerf.
>playing Imperial Navy after you get done watching Master and Commander
>playing ask orks against an imp player
>he can't see my faction on the ship select screen
>i tell him orks
>we get ingame, he takes his cruisers and charges straight at me
>i take him apart
>"well fuck you too then"
>opponent has capitulated
I told you I was playing orks you asshole.
As much as I want to like this game it seems that the very strict timers don't work well with your incredibly slow ships. By the time you reach the objective you'll probably only have 30 seconds left to do whatever it was you needed to do, and in some cases you'll be given an objective on the other side of the map you physically cannot reach in time.
It seems that most of the time I lose isn't to being outplayed, but to a timer. The first planetary assault mission is a big example of this.
>Fighting enemy ships in the middle of the map
>"Hey travel to the bottom left corner"
>Use micro-warp jump
>Set engines to Max
>Recharge the cells to keep up speed
>Am 3 seconds to late
>"Hey retard, I told you to go there"
>Now travel to the top right corner when all your abilities are on cooldown, you have one minute
>Dumbfucking devs:Chaos Has the advantage of longer ranged lancers
>honhonhonhon not really the Imperium lancers have just as much range and do more dmg.
Wow now chaos really doesn't have anything.
They aren't much faster than IMperial ships, now their lancers are about equal.
There's literally no reason to even play chaos anymore
>no nids
>no necrons
>no tau
>NO NIDS
They should have axed the cogitator and just slowed the game by like 25%
game moves too fast to really control everything, especially when you're trying to fire multiple torpedoes at the correct time or whatever
on the other hand the cogitator is mind bogglingly fucking slow.
>>335207358
you can tab through ships, and the game is perfectly paced right now to keep it mechanically competitive.
>>335207102
This.
How the fuck do you have a 40k space game without Nids?
So is this multiplayer only or does it have a single player campaign too? I literally only wanted to buy it to play single player.
>>335207815
it has a campaign, its a structured story spread over the usual campaign map filler. It's imperial navy only though
You can play the other races single player in a skirmish campaign, though it lacks any map or real strategic value, you just build up a fleet over time as you get thrown into random battles against the computer.
the AI is pretty challenging though, and wont just be constantly fielding cheese against you
>>335207815
Single player very similar to XCOM, and a Skrimish mode you can play through with a fleet you level up as you go.
>>335208160
>>335208198
Thanks senpai.
I have been staring at the screen for ten minutes trying to name my Imperial profle
>super hype for BFG
>don't have a lot of time to play vidya
>game finally comes out and fucking rocket league is having a free weekend and sale
>friends all want to play it so I've been playing that instead
>only 8 minutes in Battlefleet
Feels fucking bad. Friends suck. If they didn't all live across the country where I can't see them in person I'd ignore them and play
In the mean time, I will live vicariously through you all.Greentext stories pls
>>335207725
Because the fucking game is set in the fucking black crusade that was played in Gothic sector you fucking imbecile
>>335208719
Lord High Admiral Dicksuck
>>335208719
The Big Fleet of Dick
>>335209013
that's funny because the specialist game had these, and it still says battlefleet gothic in the top right corner
Someone name my Slaneesh Battleship
>it's another "you can't use any of your abilities" episode
How the fuck have they still not fixed this bug.
>>335209192
Derrherrherr. Maybe because they expanded the fucking model range??? Still, the game is set in the time of the black crusade retard. Why would they waste time doing dickships that dont appear at the campaign at all???
>>335209208
I love that and the unable to issue move orders bug.
>>335209406
>Why would they waste time doing dickships that dont appear at the campaign at all???
probably to create a bigger product and appeal to people who really like tyranids
but those people are fewer in number so they just focused on the core races to begin with
In the gameplay trailer I saw them able to link ships in formation, did they took it out?
>>335209498
But it's based in the black crusade campaign which was before they expanded the model range. No doubt they'll add in other races as DLC.
>>335209406
>the game is set in the time of the black crusade retard
The campaign is. And you can't play orks, chaos or eldar during that, either.
If you're arguing the multiplayer has to follow the same rules, you're just being dumb.
Super hype for this game and managed to scrounge up the extra cash to grab it. I played BFG ages ago as the tabletop is there a quick rundown on the races/do they play the same as on the tabletop?
>>335209498
>>335209883
The Armada edition of Battlefleet Gothic introduced all the races that weren't in the Gothic War, including Necrons, Tau, Tyranids and Dark Eldars.
You're all full of shit.
I'm new to this game, which faction is probably best to play for a newbie?
I figured Imperial but I'm being outclassed by the other factions in all engagements in 1v1.
Orcs are heavier than me, Eldar flies circles around me and Chaos are always out of my range since my ships are slower.
>when you capture the data just before the enemy jumps
>>335209196
a night with your mother
>>335210182
And Armada wasn't the Black Crusade campaign???
>>335209968
relatively
>imperials
slow, brawly
>chaos
fast, long range, good fighters/bombers/assault boats
>orks
slow, brawly, unreliable
>eldar
gimmicky, fast and fragile
everything is massively slower and scaled down so you can actually control it in real time though
>>335210182
they didn't rename the game, all those races were added to BFG
space marines werent in the original bfg release either.
This game coming out just makes my heartache that GW axed all the specialist games before I could really get into them. I want to build a fleet but ebay prices and recasts are horribly expensive.
>>335210187
Orks are the easiest to play, it's generally just getting in close for boardin and rammin plus your ships are very tough.
Imperium is middle of the road. Very adaptable with all sorts of abilities. Generally you'll rely on boardsides from mid range and torpedoes to do most of your damage now that Nova Cannons are worthless.
Eldar are very micro intensive and made of wet cardboard, relying heavily on hit and runs. When played right they can fly circles around everyone, launch a pulsar volley for an easy kill, and run off while the pulsar recharges. The problem is if they slow down or if they get hit then they're sitting ducks.
Chaos are long range kiters. Also micro intensive and made of slightly sturdy cardboard you need to rely on keeping your distance and using bombers, lancers, and control abilities to avoid letting them get close because you can't outram the orks, out gun the imps, or out burst the eldar.
>>335210872
>Chaos
>hard to play
It's easily the most simple faction in the game.
>do a 2v2
>teammate is playing Eldar
>"who do you talk to ur team lol xD"
I warped out instantly.
>>335208719
Butticus
>>335210872
I've lost every match but 2, one was as Imp and one as Chaos because my teammate played interference really well.
I'm not sure what upgrade to take
>>335210472
>>335210575
Yet the videogame is set on BFG:A.
What is your point, exactly?
People complaining about "MUH BLACK CRUSADE" when only the campaign will have imperium vs chaos vs orks vs eldars vs admech, the other races will be added in multi or solo.
>>335211937
But it's obviously not set on Armada? It doesn't have all the races, it's the Black Crusade campaign, I don't know where you're trying to go with this. They literally just used the name Armada and you're getting hung up on it.
>>335212065
>i'm an idiot, please punch my face
BFG is the campaign, BFG:A is everything else.
Stop.
So like, how do you beat Chaos if you aren't Eldar?
You don't, do you?
>>335197081
Holy shit this game looks cool.
Is it demanding? Maybe my craptop can play it.
>>335212346
Yes
No
>>335212346
0.5gb vram is relatively stable for me on medium.
>>335209196
The Turgid Longing
>>335212346
It runs on UT4, good luck if you want more than 20 fps.
>>335209196
set sail for dick
>>335197081
Better than the fucking Eldar.
AI eldar have x10 hull etc. Vs. Human controlled eldar.
Just had a play with the derps.
>the same classes of ships that would sit still being pounded on by my broadsides at point blank range and soak it for 5 goddam minutes with bugger all crits etc. SUDDENLY can't take a puny escort farting at them whilst they have full holofield effect at 6k or above range
Fucking eldar are total BS.
>>335209196
Mr. Lister
>>335210987
>easy.
Did you listen to a word he said? Any faction can go as fast as you.
>>335213884
But wouldn't I need an Imperial fist ship for that?
Is there a general on /vg/ yet
>>335213957
>Any faction can go as fast as you
but that's objectively wrong.
tfw slow battle to the death between two ships that have both lost weapons and are putting out sub par damage
tfw game ends when my cruiser is destroyed and his his limps away with less than fifteen health
>>335209196
Boy Toy Rave Club
Hey add me http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198098015701/
How do I fucking git gud as the Imps?
Also what's the most fun cruiser tier ship?
Tried tyranny, always get buttufcked
>>335214941
You have not been on v very long. Have you? First we have months of shill, shitposting, hate and bait threads about a game.
Then. Maybe we might think about a containment general. Until we get the inevitable muh husbando threads with retards arguing about who's the manliest character in the campaign etc. And no actual discussion about the game itself we won't have a general for bfga
>>335218140
Slanesh is muh waifu
The emperor can get fucked.
>>335217815
My favourite cruiser was the domintaor for really solid brawling but now the nova is useless so probably the tyrant.
The best way to git gud is to spend some time playing each faction and getting to know their weaknesses and strengths. You should be adapting your play style to the faction and gametype of each match. A good general tip for imps though is that it's often much better to manually move your ships in a gun line and let them shoot themselves rather than issuing attack commands and letting them do the moving on their own. Assigning target priorities is very useful when doing this as you can still target specific ships and handle your own movement.
>>335214941
>>335218140
Not on /vg/, there has been one on /tg/ for months now.
>>335218240
I dunno. I just got my first Mars and even if I wasn't hitting the enemy straight on my nova cannon was sure as shit fucking their shields off or something. Cos then I closed in and raeped unprotected hull with bombers and macro etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFpEfpj_Ns
Is this game worth it? I'd like to buy it if there's actually a community
>>335206720
You have more than one ship retard, spread them out
>>335219250
This, I'm interested in what the multiplayer is like, is it worth gettting? Or will this fucking game crash and burn, DOA?
Playing against Eldar as Orks is such a binary experience.
Either they're a shit player and try to brawl with you and they end up splattered all over your bow.
Or they're halfways decent and skirt the edge of your engagement range while whittling you down and you can't touch them.
>>335219279
Point limit is 300, you effectively have 2 because escorts can't trigger the event and you're up against a 600+ point army that targets your engines.
I found that splitting your two ships is a good way to get them both absolutely wrecked, better have them both in the middle so that one can play decoy while the other runs to the event, even then it's really based on luck with whether the enemy gets criticals and where the event areas spawn.
>>335218409
See what I mean? Traditional Gaming/es not talking about tabletop. But the Vidyas instead.
Just like all the 40K breads that start on v and instantly devolve into tabletop talk. Or worse. Fluff.
>>335197081
IMPERIAL TACTICAL COGITATOR; I FLY A HERESY INCINERATOR
Campaign question.
What favours should I go for on my Mars and Dictators?
Is it even worth buying them for my dauntless's?
Will there be a non imperial campaign?
>>335220061
Let's hope so. There is too much great mechanics and effort put into the game to not have campaigns for all the different factions.
>start playing
>second tutorial mission feel like the game is awesome
>suddenly random CTD
yeah i think im gonna wait a couple patches
>>335219279
Huehuehue.
If you spread out your fleet it'll be picked off piecemeal one by one.
Ask the Germans how spreading out their battlcruisers et al. And subs wotked out for them?
>>335207358
Pls no, I die a little every match when I have to look at my ork ships lumber towards the enemy lines at 150 speed for 3 minutes. The game is already slow enough
>go into Ironman campaign
>the game crashes during a mission
>when I load the game it turns out that the game counted that crash as a fucking capitulation, I lost the mission and didn't even get any xp or renown from it
Sasuga, frenchies. Now I save before I launch any mission
>>335217815
Dictator. Make sure you have them set to auto attack broadsides at w/e distance you want them to fight at. And use that space bar button like a motherfucker. So you can manually manouvres turn them to set up torpedo salvoes.
I let mine brawl at 3 k with boarding right clicked too so they're always making maximum use of all their weps. And bombers are gud 2.
Gothic, Tyrant or Lunar?
>>335217815
Cont.
Then you manually fly your cruisers around controlling their automatic shooting with the priority function of clicking on enemies.
>playing normal campaign
>getting rekt every mission past m04
how2 imperium
orks absolutely push my shit in
/v/, is this game 40$ good?
>>335197081
I just had a ctd during a campaign mission.
When I loaded the game back up, I'd lost all my deployments for that round.
Yet another game that ships too buggy to play ironman ;_;
>>335220825
I'm >>335222434
you can't manually save in ironman
>>335220825
>>335222434
You're probably better off playing normally with self imposed ironman rules so the crashes don't fuck you over
Point costs for ships need to go up as they get upgraded and level up.
A new admiral with lvl 1-2 ships will get trounced by a player of equal skill but with higher level ships.
Doesn't have to be anything insane, but a ship that's 97 points at level 1 going to something like 105 points at higher levels wouldn't be too crazy.
Make it only apply the point increase if you actually upgrade the ship, so you can still keep running 3 light cruisers at 300 points if you like.
>>335223024
I agree it's bullshit. Instead you get extra points for every rank below your opponent you are but all that usually means is one or two extra escorts which just feeds more renown to your oponent with his fully upgraded and favoured ships.
>>335223650
Even when it's in my favor I see the bullshit.
I have two kitted out 97 pt light ork cruisers and I feel dirty nearly two-shotting (ramming) level 1-2 light cruisers
So I'm new and slowly learning how not to get my ass roasted, but I feel like the Gothic class cruiser I picked up for my first cruiser class is a little underpowered. The torpedoes are nice but I feel like the Lance's don't do much. I JUST upgraded them with range and vs shield dmg though so we'll see how that goes.
>>335224819
Dictator is better. Yes. Lances rock. But the close in brawling of 3k macros and boarding combined with turn manouvres to fuck things with torpedoes is better. And Then you've still got your marauder bombers and lightning fighters and valkyrie troop carriers assault boats or w/e for long range huehuehues
>>335224819
Gothics need a good brawler paired with them, they don't work as well on their own. I'm not even sure if they are viable at all at the moment though because when the game launched they nerfed lances and replaced the upgrade that increased lance critical chance to 300% with lock on to the torpedo boost.
In the beta my Gothic was my favourite ship I had, now I don't think I'm even going to bother picking one up.
Also fuck psychic storm dealing damage through shields now.
Can anyone please answer the question of is this game worth the cents?
>just hit rank 5
>cruiser clash
>opponent fields a battleship. a battlecruiser and a cruiser
>they all have favours and three or four upgrades
>but it's ok, I got enough bonus points to field two extra sword frigates
I love this game but sometimes it enrages me so fucking much.
>>335199592
boarding or bombing
which one is better?
>played the beta
>get my fully level'd up ork fleet wiped
>start new admiral
>destroy everything since everyone expects orkz to rush blindly in
>keep concealing my ships with clouds
>constantly forcing the enemy into undesirable positions with torpedoes
>all these Eldar and Chaos players without patience on defensive missions
>Imperials ever getting close to me for a broadside
Holy shit I thought all the beta players were bad. I'm gonna be da most kunnin warboss in the galaxy.
>>335226660
Yes
>>335226825
It feels good when you take their battleship out. Target those generators and get AA macros going.
>>335226983
I'd love to play Orks but I don't understand their Kustom Points system. Like I can't even select something when bringing in my first light cruiser? Either I'm blind or its difficult to find.
>>335227071
When you get a new ship, it gives you the option to spend customize point on the weapons systems. Those selected are yellow, the rest are green.
If you stuck with the standard configuration, you gotta replace your ship.
>>335199095
>held only together by sheer WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK
Actually the orks give a fuck, that's all they do really, give fucks, they give such massive fucks that things happen, the catch is that they don't do much but give a fuck.
>>335227195
I'll take a quick look then.
It's sad to know I've been trying to field out my boyz without anything to use.
>>335227317
>>335227195
Found it. That was a bit less obvious than it should be.
What are the better options for beginning as Orks?
>>335221682
>cruiser clash
>i have just enough points for a cruiser and two light cruisers
>orks show up with three cruisers, a light cruiser and 5 escorts and swarm me and push my shit in
how to git gud
nova cannon is literally worthless
kek they copied Starcraft 2 wings of liberty
>>335227776
Torps & ramming
>>335227625
Eavy Kannonz
You can't neglect your torpedoes
>>335227878
>
>>335227879
any tips for ramming? is there a trick to it or is it just ram my front into their broadside? also what upgrades to get?
>>335228040
Make sure they can't pop brace for impact. After the hit keep pushing em to do more damage. Get the torp speed upgrade. Only use melta torps against the "boss" ships.
>>335227878
See, this is a scene from starcraft 2. They went and copied the starcraft universe lol
>>335228194
thanks, gonna roll back to a save earlier in my campaign and practice
>>335228040
Ram as a fleet, keep cohesion among your ships. Works especially well against human players, as they will get thrown into dissarray. Only ram with one ship if you are losing that ship or they are losing the target ship.
Upgrades are based on your playstyle, I usually go defensive and focus on shields and transfers
>>335228296
You're not getting any bites m8
>>335226957
Depends who you are playing against. Boarding Orks, Nurglites or Biel-Tan Eldar is pretty pointless, so bombers are better for those. They are also better for finishing off damaged enemies since ship loses a turret for every X amount of of HP it loses.
Goddamn, Orks are so cool, I want to be one irl.
>>335228626
Get drunk and start a football riot
>>335227625
Prow kannons on all light cruisers, they are cheap and very killy. Effectiveness of a torpedo depends on a platform they are mounted on - the more maneuvarable it is the better. And Orks are the least maneuvarable army in the game. Also bigger broadsides have pathetic 3k range, making you even more of a sitting duck against mobile armies.
Carrier option is decent, but it's undermined by the fact that those ships literally have no weapons except aircraft and torpedoes, they become useless while their bombers are on a cooldown while costing more points that a simple light cruiser.
>>335228194
>>335228326
>>335227879
ahahahah, i just tried it, what a fucking rush, wiped the floor with some orkses
what a time to be alive
thanks lads
>>335228856
Thanks, anon. It's good fun being Orks, cuz Orks iz best
>>335228994
Oh, and always take chained squig as your first upgrade for every ship, no exceptions. You don't want to be that guy who lost an escort and chain panicked all his fleet away.
How do you successfully spam escorts as imperials?
>>335229464
>choose a lineship
>choose loads of firestorms
Keep the secret of this ancient strategy well.
>>335229157
I figured that, I had an insubordination on my first fight
>>335229620
I was more after how you go about using them in the battle. Apparently it works but all they ever do for me is die while tickling a cruiser.
Hmmm should I buy this game
So I heard this game is shit?
>>335211426
What's so funny with?
Biggus dickus
>>335229773
They generally won't do much until they are double upgraded. Also the ship with the macro turret might be better than firestorm for the purposes of spamming considering that lances were needed.
>Sucks at strageies.
>wanna try some RTS
>bad at clicking fast enough/knowing what to upgrade on what turn
>cannot enjoy awesome battle/war games like these
fuck
>>335230057
Nerfed, lances were fucking nerfed. Lost that +300% crit upgrade and all. God, posting from a phone sucks.
>All this in character banter
I fucking love the 40k community.
All da Orkz bein' Orkz, the haughty Eldar, the wicked Traitor forces and the High and Mighty Imperium players.
Tau is gonna make this banter suck.
>>335230194
>implying they gonna add blueberries
Nids or Necrons, mark my words.
>2016
>still playing RTS shit
Armada a shit, get hyped for the true BFG game, a TBSwith Tyranids
https://youtu.be/TVc1MforkhM
>>335230257
Sadly the poll on their forums have Tau as the most requested so it's likely they'll do that.
I really want Necrons or Nids though too.
>>335230306
>smartphone and tablet
>>335200194
Ramming.
This game is a ramming simulator for me.
There's nothing more satisfying in the game.
>>335209196
The Rod of Torment.
>>335229157
>>335229670
Only gitz use chained squigz. Gitz also use mass escort which causes mass routs
>>335219725
>Or worse. Fluff.
Because Emprah forbid anyone talk about the lore of vidya. All discussions on /v/ must be shilling for e-celebs.
>>335222131
It's $20 good.
>tfw no fun allowed in Emprah's Most Holy Imperial Navy
How big is the download for this game? I'm hoping it's only 2 gig or something.
>>335226983
>I'm gonna be da most kunnin warboss in the galaxy.
That would be Kaptin Bludflag
>Game is 27 yuros on a cd key site
Should I buy it, even though I wont be able to play it for some time?
>>335230969
10GB
>>335230064
That's what campaigns were invented for. BFG has a good one.
>>335231065
25 here
https://www.instant-gaming.com/en/700-buy-key-steam-battlefleet-gothic-armada/
>>335221161
Gothic for fire support, give it support skills.
Tyrant for brawling.
Lunar for a jack of all trade.
>>335231065
>even though I wont be able to play it for some time?
Games only get cheaper with time.
>>335197081
>sound in space
>>335231178
Are these sites safe to use? I've never used neither g2play or the one you posted or any of the sort.
>>335231362
I will be alway from home for a few months and probably miss summer sales and shit like that and idk if the game will keep it's player base till October. If I get it now I will be able to play it for a month before I have to leave
>really want to play Ork
>they're the worst faction by far
Umies is scared of makin us the biggest and da baddest
How do you sell ship? I realized I sucked at aiming torpedoes so I want to sell my Dauntless mk2 for mk1.
>>335209196
10,000 years of sodom
>>335231065
>>335231178
You don't get the free DLC if you don't buy it on steam, just saying.
>>335231386
>not being able to hear the Emprah's will in space
>>335231480
The red replace button on the right side of the screen. You should get practice at using torpedoes because they are great but a tiny spread of four is near useless so when it comes to light cruisers the Dauntless is the much better of the MKII.
>>335231440
>>335231583
Gamesplanet is one I trust, it's a UK site though so exchange rate might be wonky.
But I get my keys instantly when confirming the order and it's an official retailer too. Got both the game and the pre-order code which apparently some sites aren't able to do.
It's like 28 pounds
Is it true that whenever an Empire ship jumps through space with warpdrive at least 800 crew members die everytime?I miss Warhammer Online
>>335231649
How did I miss that....
Thanks.
>>335231889
I didn't mean this game by the way, I meant like in general in the WAR 40k universe.
>>335231889
Something like that is considered a successful jump, yeah.
Let me take you through the average Warp travel procedure. The Captain calls down to prep the ship for Warp expedition. At that time, 12000 slaves who have never seen the outside of the work galley begin shoveling the dead bodies of the previous workers into massive furnaces along with whatever hard fuel source they have in storage, like a brutal Mr. Fusion. A field of pure psychic FUCK YOU is generated around the ship and the blinded, mentally traumatized man inside a metal egg begins screaming unendingly as he charts a course through the Warp, which is basically a giant ocean of pure emotion in which Unnamed Ones lounge around and fuck with humanity by the luxury of simply existing. The ship then plows into the miasma of what you could call Hell if you lacked imagination. Pray to the Holy Throne the Astropath doesn't accidentally get you lost, becomes possessed by a Daemon, or just explodes like a mushy human pinata from the mental stress of being around so much pure CANNOT BE. If the void shields even flicker on the 8000 year old vessel (which no one actually understands completely how to work), Daemons made of RAPE and LEMON JUICE will crawl into our reality and do things you literally cannot imagine to every soul aboard. I mean that. The very notion of understanding the completeness of the horror the human victims will be witness to would shatter your perception of reality and cause your head to explode.
Mission clock says they were only in the Warp for 5 days. It was 17 months for everyone aboard. They also missed their destination by a couple of solar systems and 80% of the crew is dead.
The Captain turns to his bridge staff and pops the cork on a vintage stock of Jherrik Ale and salutes another successful Warp Jump.
>>335231463
Just use some taktikz ya grot. Dey iz da best faction, ya just gotta be close iz all
>>335232041
I think I'll just stay on Earth.
>>335232041
>>335232029
The concept of flying through a cosmic horror hell in order to travel between space is pretty fucking badass.
It does get ridicolous at times when you read the lore and it says a ton of people die during the trips.
>>335232217
gettin close iz da wur da problemz ar
humies iz quik
>>335232041
80% of the crew dead seems a bit excessive, and yes, I know this is 40k.
I tried carriers as Chaos since people said they are OP. Well, not really for me. Don't know what am I doing wrong, because bombers did absolutely shit damage against orks and I ended up losing two light cruisers even though I kept maximum distance. Just what the fuck.
>>335232323
Granted what I posted is mostly Fanon, but the 40k universe is pretty brutal in scale.
Plenty of people die in jumps. But definitely not 80%
>>335232041
According to the books it's not as bad as this pasta.
You mostly have and unsettling feeling while traveling.
Though there is a chance that something fucks up. Either the Gellar field craps itself or some strong psyker decides to fuck with you. Then you dead. Or worse, stranded in the warp 4ever.
>>335232352
Ya dont get close to da umies, ya make dem get close ta ya grotty lil shipz. Be kunnin like dem Blood Axe boyz!
>>335232393
Did you just face me? Because I trounced a carrier faggot with my new ork admiral by just constantly going back into a cloud and then bracing for impact when he actually saw me.
Anyway, you wanna not blow all your combustion, keep a little bit so you can use it constantly without waiting for a full recharge. Just stay outta 3K range and be patient is all you have to do.
>>335197081
wew
>>335232393
>even though I kept maximum distance
Unless the ork player spammed zzap cannons this did not happen. Improve your kiting game.
>assault
>enemy is in the corner
>only have 3 minute to get to him
>boost all the way there
>get there with 10 seconds left
>he starts warping
>all my assault actions fail
>DEFEAT
wow this is fun. almost as good as convoy and breakthrough.
>>335232041
>>335232323
>>335232514
That's a Warp jump that went horribly wrong but somehow wasn't torn apart by Daemons.
A successful Warp jump will, at worst, give some people nightmares. As long as the Gellar Field holds and the Navigator does his job everything is mostly okay.
But if shit goes wrong, it goes wrong completely and in 99% of cases everyone is fucked.
Whoever '''''''''balanced''''''''' these objective game modes seriously needs to die in the next French terror attacks.
>>335220273
its a problem with the codex crack, if that's what you're doing
>>335232041
"Successful" warp jumps typically results in increased suicide rate due to mania, nightmaress etc, and increased homicide rates abord ships. But that pasta is trying waaaay to hard.
How the fuck do I play against Eldar? My last game against AI with Chaos ended up all their light cruisers just sticking in all my own ships asses and shooting them in back all that time.
This game is not fun at all. Awful unbalanced combat and even more unbalanced modes like assassination
>>335199592
Explain to me how win against Eldar with this same tactic in assassination. Its impossible.
>>335201294
My full astartes fleet seems to mess Eldar up.
>>335233642
tfw astartes favour and lightning strike upgrade
>>335233506
>win
>assassination
You don't. Defender wins every single time.
See >>335232693
Okay guys I'm thinking of a new cheese build.
All my ships will be Imperial Navy favor. I'll call in a retarded amount of Cobras.
How should I upgrade my cobras for this?
>>335228751
Underated post
>>335233883
The torpedo and new shield upgrade, then reinforce your shield. IN is also the direct counter to Slaanesh, but loses to any ork worth his salt
>>335234027
>but loses to any ork worth his salt
Why's that?
Guys, I don't think I'm having fun with this game.
The gameplay is great, and the campaign setup looks fantastic, but some of the scenarios are so unfair, I feel cheated when I lose.
git gud me all you like
>>335234332
Mass escorts is just a ramfest. Keep fleet cohesion and break the enemy lines. I love when Eldar do it.
>nurgle vs tyranids
who wins?
>>335231609
Actually, that highlighted bit is possible. If the crews were standing on/touching/etc the hull then the vibrations in the hull could travel to their ears via their body or void suit. It would have to be beyond exceptionally loud to be recognisable at all, but it is theoretically possible.
>>335234332
Imperial players tend to upgrade their ships to be decently fast brawlers with some long range capability thanks to torps/nova cannons, This works pretty well vs chaos/eldar, But Orks just flat out beat them at brawling while tanking the torps and nova cannons as they close the distance. Boarding tops have the potential to be much more devastating than regular torps if you're just talking about the occasional hit at long distance.
>>335234586
Nurgle if they don't implement melee damage. They may be impossible to board, but the ship is still glass and will go down fast under heavy barrage
>>335234586
Depend on the writer, both happened and both side can win depending on the author preference.
Any tips for a new player? Should I stick with the Imperials until I learn the game or can I go ram people as Orks fro mthe start?
Anyone else getting this?
Every time I'm winning enemy ships always manage to escape and most of the time I can't even deal heavy damage to them before that. Lightning strikes fails almost always when I try to stop their. Fuck this shit game.
>>335234586
>Trying to comprehend how that battle would look
It's like one nightmare trying to out compete another nightmare.
Reminder that the Eldar are the master race.
This game is immensely hard even against cpu opponent. Why cant they do anything wrong? Everything they do is perfect compared to me. Silent running, staying away, ramming and using skills. I just can't get good at this game.
>>335236035
>Eldar
So how much micro skills do you need in this game?
>>335236675
All of them
>>335230794
Do people really try to ban warhammer discussion from /v/?
>>335227776
Read back through the thread.
Also dauntless>d mk ii
>>335209498
>probably to create a bigger product and appeal to people who really like tyranids
All 8 of you?
I cant play this game cause my computer is shit.
Anyone knows where I could watch some competent people play the game?
Is every battle in this game supposed to be so damn hard struggle to beat? I've played 8 hours now and I'm still having really hard time against normal CPU.
>>335233832
You have to get your all dictators into bomber range to fuck their engines. Then you fuck the generator. Dropping a wombocombo of stasis and disruption bomb in their way helps. The AI will usually get around it. Allowing you to further close distance for lightning strike sometimes eldar will fly right into the bombs though since the AI seems to prioritize full holofields
Is the sp gud ?
>>335227198
fuck
>>335237570
Hells yes. I'm loving the sp campaign. And if you just want to fuck shit up you can roll yourself a persistent Adm. Of any faction. Lvl. Them through solo skirmish. And you can even make yourself a custom game too. Although your skirmishers won't lvl. From that.
>>335236035
Nah m8.
The Eldar are shit tier now.
Your opponent needs to be a bloody retard for you to win as the eldar.
>>335228296
0/9000 bait there.
>>335232393
you were doing something terribly wrong anon
orc light cruisers get only 1 option on prow guns and it has terrible range
and with the manouverability of orc ships they cannot catch you without taunt
>>335234942
Yes. So long as you remember orks suck at anything other than point blank range.
(Although iirc 3k is a misnomer since it is actually 300,000 km or some shit. Maybe even 3M km. Which is still ludicrously short range in stellar terms. Once again it's a case of devs-have-no-concept-of-scale that happens in any sci-fi product.
>>335208719
Biggus Dickus or Maximus Erectus
>>335238516
Nuuu...
SHOULDERS MAXIMUS PLATUS
LORD DARK HELMET
GRIMDARK MCFUCKYOU
FUKLAW
RAEGE
if we're going to be infantile instead of helpful.
On a side note. Some derivative of Malakai works or Malciah. Since it is old biblical for a messenger from god.
Which works in the context of the game since you the human player are the games supreme being.... and your character is merely your avatar....
>>335238485
>Maybe even 3M km. Which is still ludicrously short range in stellar terms
Sure, but it's pretty long for combat
source: I played a few games of Aurora once
>>335238771
>RAEGE
My admiral
>>335238805
My Admiral my admiral?
>>335238805
I want your strongest potions
>>335238216
I had set my ship engagement range way too low, so it really was my fault. Only faction I'm having trouble with now is pretty much Chaos too.
Why did the inquisition fuck up Spire at the beginning of campaing? Did they actually torture him to be sure he isnt lying about Chaos threat?
>chain taunting an eldar ship till its destroyed as orcs while the faggots other 2 ships cant even break my battle cruisers shield
is there a better feeling
>>335238981
i can relate since ive done orcs mostly in mp and fuck chaos cause of how much they can kite you around
granted that why ive generally got atleast 2 taunts in each battle in addition to a traktor beam
>>335239094
Yes Baal that's what they did
>>335236867
It's /v/. Of course you've got retards trying to shut down vidya discussion because it slides their cancerous e-celeb threads.
Will this run on Intel HD integrated?
Threadly reminder that all Eldar are KOS.9
>>335239742
On my laptop it does, yes. Low settings though.
Just lost that mission where I was supposed to save that planet from Chaos invasion. No fucking idea how that can be pulled off
Does this have an SP campaign for all the races or is it all about the Imperium again?
>>335241207
Given that the game is about the Gothic war really only chaos and the Imperium could have campaigns and the who knows how you would even make a chaos one.
So no, just Imperium.
This might be a really basic question, but how do I issue the same order for all ships selected?
>tfw spend all my fun money on a gun this month
Is it going to be dead in a week?
So can my friend and I co-op this game together online and take on other players?
>>335241770
You don't. You just have to quickly tab through them.
There really should be an option for activating things like torpedoes and orders on every selected ship that has them. Also a function to keep your ships in formation would be neat.
>>335232582
This, it's not too bad has long as the Gellar Field is up, but if it breaks down in the warp prepare for literal hell
>>335198990
Ok, that'll be 39.99 please
>>335233418
>I'm shit but it's the game fault
You control one ship or you have to control fleets in RTS style battles?
>>335242003
Fleets
>>335239116
Twice in a row now the retarded tzeentch nemesis ship has escaped into the warp on me.
>with no generators
>2nd time the fucker didn't have engines either.
>>335242059
>still no games where you command a single ship in massive space battles
>Up against Ork Player name Cap'n Rammin' Sped
>All of his ships are upgraded to be as long range as possible, meanwhile I picked all my close-range ships
Fuck, orks are cunning.
>>335241382
Alternate history you are Failbaddons' adm. O.t. Fleet.
>where you the player have to undo fail's idiocy
>>335242137
>EvE online
>>335242221
Ork players are seriously the best thing to come from this game
All their all chat antics, their cunnin' strats
>>335209196
Shitting Dick Nipples
>>335242137
Does Freelancer count?
>>335242278
>online only early access MMO in development abyss with an elitist community that hates new players
I choose life man
>>335241871
Game really needs a formations patch update. My sniper dauntless's with their 9 k lances keep line abreast-ing with my 3k brawlers
>>335242413
Never heard of it
Is it good?
>Assassinate the Ork Admiral
>Spend 10 mins chasing the fucker into a corner
>Take his shields down
>Lightning Strike failed
>Lightning Strike failed
>Lightning Strike failed
>He warps out
Every fucking time
>>335242526
It's a game from my childhood that I loved the demo for(Never could find it in store, let alone convince my single parent mother to buy for me)
>>335242437
He said EVE! EVE you motherfucker!
>>335242526
>/v/ is actually this young and ignorant
all these classics will be lost in time, like tears...in rain
;_;
>wanted to buy a new PC for this
>expensive vacation planned so I wouldn't want to blow the rest of my savings in case of something happening
>playing loads of other games so I woulodn't even have the time
Hope I won't miss out on too much by being a late adapter.
>>335242221
Gork made orks kunningly brutal. Or was that Mork...
>>335242623
>Spreadsheet simulator where you can't even control your ship directly
Shit taste desu
>>335242694
The game will be fucking dead before you buy it pal, it only has 8k players on launch. I don't think this game is going anywhere. It's riddled with bugs and it's been in EA for ages.
>>335242542
Yep. Even if you spam assault boats and boarding action instead. Fucking failed. Every. Single. Time.
And the one time you destroy the generators with a lucky rng gun crit
>the fucks use their magically non -exploded gennies to warp out any fucking way.
Leaving you scratching your head at the retardation.
>>335242678
>you have now been longer on 4chan than the average age of the /v/ poster
>>335242742
>can't even control your ship directly
Yeah, because proper control for a moon-sized spaceship is a joystick...
>>335242759
I'm mainly going for SP.
As far as MP is concerned, I have a friend who'll love this game, so as long as it's mainly 1v1 I'm okay.
>>335242221
Don't you get it?
It's advise on how to beat them!
RAM THEIR GREEN ASSES! FOR THE EMPEROR!
>>335242848
You won't miss out then. The pre-order bonuses still are active for a month.
SP is pretty fun.
>>335242839
>eah, because proper control for a moon-sized spaceship is a joystick...
It should be, are the engines in EVE shit or what?
>>335242848
>I'm mainly going for SP.
Then wait for a sale.
>>335242914
Good to know, thanks.
Let's hope Total Warhammer will also be decent at least.
>>335242678
Gee grandpa I don't like your shitty low graphic games when I can play masterpieces like undertale and CoD
>>335242137
>What is X3
I don't know how to fucking win at this game
I have no fucking idea what it is I'm doing less effectively than other players, but I always seem to lose
also data stealing missions are bullshit because you can avoid the enemy for 3 minutes then just warp out every time
>>335243030
Shut your mouth billy, or you get the stick again.
>>335243126
You don't have the fucking nerve you sack of shit.
>>335242457
are you not setting it to prioritize prow weapons and setting range to 9k? because that always works for me
How do I ram? Just sail towards enemy ships or is there some special order for that?
>>335242437
>early access
It got released 13 years ago
>>335242983
If you're in a munchies for 40k, there's mods for Sins of a Solar Empire and Empire at War
>>335243340
Wait, what year is it?
>>335243307
The most effective ramming is all ahead full + Brace for Impact then you just steer your ships into others
>>335243307
if you set your weapons to frontal and attack the enemy while using your afterburners it will generally be pointed at the ship
if they're moving though you have to lead like with torpedos
help
>>335243497
git gud
>>335243443
It's 2016
>>335243595
Haha very funny I slept for 13 years and it's not 2003
You almost got me man
>>335243443
M40.999
>>335243497
Fucking what?
>>335243443
I MEAN COME ON
IT'S 40016
>>335243595
>2016
>before the alien invasion
I'm not supposed to say this but enjoy your free life while you can because it won't last long
>>335197081
I want to play as the tau ;_;
>planetary assault against orks
>split my ships into two groups of two, one on each far side of the map
>he keeps his ships together in the middle
>first bombardment location is very close to his cluster
>I decide it is worth it and scoot my nearby dauntless in there
>two seconds after reaching the point it explodes under the combined fire of four cruisers and a bunch of escorts
>opponent then moves his ships after my Mars, which was with the now deceased dauntless and much closer than my other two ships on the other side of the map
>as I'm trying to leg it the second bombardment zone appears in between my Mars and the ork horde
>throw down a stasis and plasma bomb to delay them as I hit the objective and then recommence my fleeing
>the orks are about 5ks behind my fleeing mars now hitting it with zzap kanons and lightning strikes
>move my second group of ships into the now vacant middle of the map to quickly grab the next objective
>using the bombers on my mars I blow up two pursuing escort ships which triggers insubordination in two ork light cruisers
>the two remaining ork cruisers continue the chase which has now reached my original deployment zone and have almost destroyed my mars
>the third bombardment zone spawns right underneath by cruiser sitting back in the middle of the map, instantly ending the match and saving my mars battlecruiser which has less than fifty health
Am I the only one finding the Imperial escort ships to be really good?
Especially the one with the forward-laser and forward guns.
Two of those for barely 80 resource and you can party all day.
>>335197081
I just want to line up my ships and just go full FIRE THE CANNONS and unleash a wall of burning lead at the enemy. Can I do it? and more importantly, is it viable?
>>335244130
At the start of every battle you get to line up your ships however you want.
I like to set my Imperial Cruisers facing to the side, so that when the first enemy comes into range, they meet a full salvo from every gun head-on.
It usually utterly wrecks the first ship that comes into contact with me, and after that the panic of the rest of the enemies spread.
In His Light We Shine.
>>335244130
>Can I do it?
Yes.
>is it viable?
No.
>>335243497
Holy fuck. Ascend to greatness.
>>335244245
What do you do when an acheron 15ks back starts shoving its lances up your anus?
>>335210249
That gif is way more fun than it has any right to be.
Source?
>>335244329
Let's just say that if that first volley doesn't break the at least the first wave it's time to hit those thrusters andbrace for impact.
Wait so even the space battles in 40k are FLY CLOSER I WANNA HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD?
>win the 'defend the inquisitor jump away' mission
>bonus renown points: -149
wait what?
>>335244496
The largest Imperial cruiser has a fucking spear strapped to the front of it because fuck you.
Ramming an enemy is really fun.
>>335244269
FUCK
Why not? I like to play long range games. Rip them apart before they get close. Close range weapons are weak as piss. Long guns all the way.
>>335242823
Destroying generator increase the warping time but doesn't stop it.
Boarding/lightning strike cancel the warp jump and put it on a short timer.
>>335244639
Chaos are long ranged and play like that
>>335244639
You sound like you need some Nurgle in your life.
>>335244496
Tyranids can eat your face even in space.
>>335244639
>Close range weapons are weak as piss
>>335244827
Fuck off Eldar, no one wants you anywhere. Go be almost extinct somewhere else.
>>335232041
This is a really shitty copypasta from /tg/ and its inaccurate. Yes the Warp is a psychic shithole, yes people get killed from mishaps, but most warp jumps result in some people getting nightmares, hearing voices that arent there, or seeing things at the edges of their vision. The Navigators are specifically bred mutants designed to be able to look into the warp and navigate, so they're far more resiliant than your average slave. Those working in the bottom of the ship, near the engine core or in the fetid underbelly access tunnels, usually just get a little more violent, maybe kill themselves, things like that. On average people's emotions just get the better of them. Now if the Gellar Field flickers then you have some serious problems like a daemonic incursion or possessions among other nastyness. If the field fails all together while in the warp, everyone in the ship is going to have their souls torn out and eaten/ absorbed into the warp. If warp travel was so outrageously dangerous and inaccurate they wouldnt do it all together, but it works well enough.
>>335244740
>>335244769
>>335244827
Looks like I'm playing Chaos after I finish up with Banner Saga 2 which is weird. I never play chaos. I've always played as Eldar, Sisters of Battle, or Tau in every 40k game I've played.
>>335237397
Its a learning curve anon. when started I couldnt beat easy ai for a good couple of battles without cheesing them into asteroid fields. Just keep at it, you'll git gud.
>>335244956
One word of advise. Don't let the Orks ram you. They'll try. They always do.
>2D
What's the point of having all this shit in space again?
>>335244913
>maybe kill themselves
Why is it acceptable for people to kill themselves? Aren't these people meant to be the good guys? I don't know anything about 40k, But I was under the impression that slaves and stuff would be a big nono for these people.
>>335245038
It's a video game version of a board game.
>>335245038
It's based on a board game.
You need to think of it as ship-combat with a 40k skin.
Is there anything better?
>>335245032
What happens if they ram you? Can you stop it?
>>335242839
Feels old man
>>335245078
>I was under the impression that slaves and stuff would be a big nono for these people.
>>335245032
LOOKIN' DOWN THE BARREL OF A GUN, GRUNTIN AT EACH OTFA, WISHING IT DIDNT TURN OUT LIKE THIS, 14 ORKS ON A HUMIES SHIP.
>>335245078
You gotta' understand that the Imperium is surprisingly good at rationalizing.
>>335245078
>Imperium
>Good guys
These guys make Nazi Germany look tame. There are no 'Goody guys' in 40k. The closest you get are the brainwashed psuedo-communist blue people, and that's just because they're willing to talk before they shoot.
>>335245147
I advice you either use a quick-warp of hit those boost-thrusters hard.
It completely ignores shields and the Orks do huge damage with it.
>>335245078
Manpower is the one resource the Imperium has in abundance. You bet your sweet ass they're going to churn that meat grinder.
Everytime you blow up an imperial cruiser in this game you are killing around ten thousand people.
>>335245078
Basically there are so many fucks around that their individual worth is nothing in fact you are worth more if they lobotomize you and turn you into a survator since you will do your job better.
The only thing that matters is the whole. Its a complete communist society.
>>335245374
It's really not communist in the slightest.
IIRC servitors are convicted criminals and heretics, not just random joes plucked off the streets.
>>335245374
>>335245274
>>335245227
>>335245160
After reading that image, I can picture the harsh life these fuckers live. So what? The world is just 100 percent and utter fucked? Nothing but constant war? Do these fuckers even have time to piss?
>>335245374
is the server fucking up for anyone else?
>>335245476
Welcome to the grim darkness of the far future, where there is only war.
>>335245476
Yes everything is fucked. The worst part? Its fucked because they believe its fucked. The warp is an abstract whose shape and form reflects the thoughts of every sentient creature. If everyone believed everything was happy go lucky everything would get better. But with all the war and death its self perpetuating.
We have the eldar fuckers to thank for starting it off too. Their empire became so big and then became so corrupt and hedonistic they changed the warp for the worse and created the first chaos god.
>>335245593
Another thing I have to question is, how the fuck do people just accept that they're nothing? has there ever been a bunch of slaves that said fuck this and tried to become something more than a fucking warp engine worker or whatever?
>>335245476
Oh, the Imperium wages war constantly. The whole Imperium infrastructure is built around supporting war in all it's forms. That's not to say that there arent "safe" planets where everyone works 12h shifts but are otherwise living it fairly well. They are just rare compared to the more bleak worlds.
>>335245685
Yes. They are shot. Simple as that. You disagree? You get shot. Your planet rebels? They spend a day or so trying to restore order and if that doesn't work they just blow the fucker up.
>>335245685
Anon, that's fucking heresy right there. Not supporting the armies of the most glorious God-Emperor? Grounds for getting a bullet in the head (if you are lucky).
>>335245685
The Imperium isn't super grimdark because it's fun. It is the way it is out of necessity. If you start treating people like their lives are important then everything falls a part and untold trillions are slaughtered as the worshippers of chaos and xenos purge countless worlds.
>>335245816
>>335245775
>>335245709
FUUUUUUUCK THAT. Fucking IG sounds like a cess pool of grimdark shit, at least live an ork life where everything is just fighting.
Is there any books to start me off into the big wide world of 40K? This stuff all sounds really interesting.
>>335244913
Even most of that is just a meme now, they toned down the grimderp especially for the ships long ago.
They don't have slaves turning guns and shit anymore.
>>335246007
Anything is a fine start really. Codexes are neat but don't fall into the idiocy that most people do and take them totally at their word. They're intentionally written partially like propaganda.
>>335245816
>>335245775
>>335245885
Also, who exactly are the slaves in this world? heretics I imagine?
>>335246012
Yes they do. They may not be called "slaves" but they sure as hell are slaves.
>>335246007
Read Gaunt's Ghosts. It's about the Imperial Guard rather than the Navy (but has some Navy elements).
>>335246007
Just surf through this wiki, going where your whims take you.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warhammer_40,000
>>335246079
A friend recommended me Eisnhorn, is that any good?
>>335246114
I'll give that a look.
>>335246007
If your getting into books understand that there is no agreement. They all have their own views of what goes on and what is what. So take everything as more of a "spirit of things."
The firewarrior Tau books are the best.
>>335246114
No they have machines for that. They've looong since decided "no wait, it's actually fucking retarded" and that the imperium is perfectly capable of building motors.
>>335245685
Galaxy is a big place and whatever happens, you won't be remembered
>>335246180
Eisenhorn is great too. It's kind of like a grimdark Sherlock Holmes, in space, with demons.
>>335246102
Anyone really. Your planetary governor could just up and sell you into slavery.
Heretics are almost always killed the moment they are found. They cant risk their ideas spreading since it an idea spreads chaos can just pop up on that planet and now there are demons everywhere.
>>335246236
Except the emperor, right?
>>335246290
>They cant risk their ideas spreading since it an idea spreads chaos can just pop up on that planet and now there are demons everywhere.
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN, so if there's ill thoughts in an individuals mind chaos can just pop up and fuck you?
>>335245685
>how the fuck do people just accept that they're nothing
People deal with that in reality. They create their own meaning. Just because you aren't important on the galactic scale doesn't mean you aren't important in a local level.
>>335246241
Sounds fucking decent. I'll start with that then.
>>335246373
The taint of chaos is always out to get you.
Don't let it grab a hold of you.
>>335246373
No, he means it in the same way people do IRL.
>people spread chaos ideas
>people start worshipping it
>summon demons, start trying to overrun the PDF, etc.
>>335246373
Yup. It takes a number of people NORMALLY not just one but yeah.
"Oh hey I really like getting fucked in the ass and sucking dick!" BOOM slaneshy demons are now walking around fucking everything up.
>>335197081
>ADMIRAL WE NEED YOU TO BOMBARD THIS POSITIONS I KNOW IT'S TOO FAR FOR YOUR SHITTY VESSELS I DONT CARE
hang the guy who created that mission
>>335246474
Do IG and space marines have thoughts about sex? How does that work out without Slaneesh coming into the picture?
>>335246007
Gaunts Ghosts and Ciaphas Cain are must reads
>>335246479
If you have bad luck its easy to lose, I prefer just to destroy them.
>>335246450
>some random gangmembers on a hive world
>enjoy mugging people
>one of them start to enjoy murdering his victims
>REALLY enjoying it
sooner or later he'll turn to Khorne worship etc.
>>335246554
Space marines no since they are all clones. I can say that much. No idea about the regular populace.
Slaneesh comes from hedonism though so as long as they dont roll around in it and focus on nothing but the pleasure they should be fine.
>>335246554
That's just memes he's spouting.
It's not like that at all. It's very normal really and people drift towards the gods that are most in line with them, the extreme hedonists will go for slanesh, as will a fighter who cares more about impressing people and looking good, not becuase slanesh is in their heads, but becuae that's who they are.
They might go insane later on if they're weak willed. But going to chaos is pretty normal.
>>335245685
>Another thing I have to question is, how the fuck do people just accept that they're nothing?
Because the Emprah is the Guardian of Humanity.
>has there ever been a bunch of slaves that said fuck this and tried to become something more than a fucking warp engine worker or whatever?
All the damn time. These people are heretics.
>>335245476
It's Warhammer. This universe is about one thing, and one thing only.
Here's a hint, it's in the name and you can't hit nails with it.
>>335246554
Space Marines don't care about sex due to mutations and mental conditioning
As for the guard, Jurgen in the Cain novels is usually looking at porn if he's not busy being a being badass
>>335246696
Only if he starts to doubt the imperial creed. It's when that happens that chaos worship starts. Chaos offers answers that some people find more compelling, that is the road to chaos and madness (or great rewards and freedom depending on your point of view)
Khorneites will try to influence you, and if you somehow manifest enough energy then yes you might be directly influenced and shit, but you need to be pretty impressive for that. And even then it's still basically them leading you down a path.
>>335246314
>>335246236
The Emprah knows the name of every faithful servant!
>>335246878
Well that will be helpful if I ever forget my name.
Are the factions going to have more ship classes added in the future?
Also, why even add space marines? Their ships are almost identical with imps already.
Ok so we know Emps fearing men can turn to chaos. What happens when a chaos cultist becomes a heretic and turns to Emps worship?
>>335246686
>Ciaphas Cain
Amazing series.
Nothing like dark humor in the grim darkest of moments.
Fucking Jurgen is god tier.
>Nurgle smelling AND looking, rank and file guardsman
>Turns out to be an amazing aide for all kinds of matters
>Amazing shot, drives like a motherfucker as well
>Brings him to all the top brass important meetings, bringing his halitosis smelling miasma with him
Also bonus points for Ciaphas being a coward commissar that just wants to sit in his office out of harms way but ends up in the absolute worst of situations and come out a hero every time, and that he doesn't want to use the overly aggressive and BLAM happy commissar approach and instead uses charisma and moral to solve guardsmen issues.
Extremely recommended
>>335247036
You... stop being a cultist?
Remember most of these cults are like, 10 guys in a hive world, if you want out the only risk is from the other guys in the cult.
>>335247012
BOARDING MOTHERFUCKER!
>>335246747
>>335246878
>>335245160
Daily reminder that these texts are heretical for portraying the Imperium negatively.
>>335247012
>no wanting a Battle Barge named the Litany of Litany's Litany
>>335247095
I mean the cultists that are on chaos worlds and in the chaos armies.
>>335247012
Becuase they'll be easy to implement for free.
>>335247036
>What happens when a chaos cultist becomes a heretic and turns to Emps worship?
Death in battle as atonement.
>>335247112
That image is factually untrue. The pyramids were built buy hired skilled contract workers.
>>335244408
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/598617
>>335247083
plus the facthe presence fucks with anything warp related
>>335247228
And they were paid with wheat farmed by slaves.
>>335247165
If you've gotten to that point you're pretty devoted.
Things like that are like saying "what if a cardinal decided that it was all about this mohammed guy"
>>335247192
Elaborate? Are there actually units of ex cultists?
>>335247165
I think the taint is kind of permanent if it gets you. I'm no fluff expert, but there might've been some atonement cases.
>>335247294
probably. It's 40k the whole point is that anything you can come up with is there. If you wanted to you could make your IG army a batallion of EX cultists sent to die in repentance.
>>335247283
Well look at it this way. The son of the son of the son of the man who turned is still part of the chaos forces because thats what he was born into. Then through fighting the Imperium he sees the other side aint so bad and starts doubting what hes been told.
Its the same as IG who turn to chaos after fighting it except in reverse.
>>335247165
There's is people worshipping the Emperor on Chaos world but they stay hidden because they are shot on sight.
Once you start worshipping Chaos there's normally no turning back.
>>335247423
WOOOOORRRRSHEEEEPIIIIING CHAAAAOOOOS?
>>335245274
>ten thousands
Try sixty thousands
>>335247408
That's not really how being in chaos armies works. And demon worlders are usually insane, or catatonic.
The few people that aren't are very interesting to the inquisition though. But you're not so much a cultist in these places.
>>335247294
Penal regiments exist, but it's mostly criminals. If you openly worshipped Chaos you get a bullet in the brain. Altough there are ex Chaos cultists that realize their mistake, but their best bet is to sell their lives in Crusades and last stands because the Imperium won't accept them again, but the Emperor does protect and will take their soul to His Golden Throne.
Also the Imperium does tolerate different religions, as long as it's clear that they still worship the God Emperor. So a bunch of tribals on a fuck off world can worship the Sun God Emp Ra, as long as they understand that he is just their version of the Emperor.
>>335208719
Commisar Fuklaw's Flying Fuck Patrol
>>335247675
>But you're not so much a cultist in these places.
How so?The chaos have to keep their numbers up so they cant just slaughter all of the civs. To keep them in line the best thing to do is exactly what the Imps do. Indoctrinate the populace that your way is right, and with pure fear.
>>335197081
>want to see official gameplay trailer
>its all cinematic prerendered bullshit
Why to developers still do this?
>select all the cabbage
>one is clearly guacamole
>you gotta select all the cabbage!
>>335247896
They keep it up with new recruits.
Demon worlders are basically -all- insane, you can't not go insane living in the warp, the human mind isn't made for it.
So what the fuck happens when Orks go through the warp? Do they even comprehend the shit that is going on?
>>335247839
That raises another question. Are there other human factions? Say a small group of planets recovered space flight and are operating? What happens when they meet the Imps? Do the Imps give a flat "follow us or die?" Do they just wave and move on?
>>335248020
Nothing.
If anything they find fighting demons funny.
>>335248053
>Do the Imps give a flat "follow us or die?"
Basically yes.
>>335248053
They usualy get merged in.
>>335248007
Ahh I got you. That would explain why any sane human would be of great interest.
>>335248151
Yes, you're sane and can tell them what it was like.
>>335248242
I'm assuming that's before they PURGE you. I dont see the person leaving that room alive even if they pledge their should to Emps.
>reading all the comments explaining 40k to newbies
>tfw that was you a long time ago
>>335248121
I'm assuming the orks are meant to be the comedic relief of 40k?
>>335248509
That's the Tau.
>>335248326
No you're fine. The inqusition do not give a single fuck.
They're waaaaay above the sort of shit everyone's been talking about so far.
The shooting people no questions happens really in front line situations only, and a lot of the "never be a heretic or talk to aliens" is just stuff designed like piracy law, they know epople will, but just say no one ever do it because that way it makes it less likely people will do it without thinking.
Some worlds in the imperium have deals with aliens and basically rely on neighbouring aliens for protection.
>>335248509
http://www.cold-moon.com/40k/Deff%20Skwadron/deff_skwadron.htm
You could say that
>>335248326
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Unfleshed
Sadly they all die because grimdark.
>>335248509
Are you implying that a homicidal race hell bent on fighting everything and speaking with a cockney accent could be a comedic relief?Yes.
>>335248587
Tau are comical but not on purpose.
>>335248589
>anti-heresy law
>not enforced
man, they don't even fucking tell people about chaos so they won't fall to it
>>335248589
You mean like the Tau? I thought the Tau indoctrinated you in and cut off your balls not make deals with you?
There really isn't many non human factions
>>335248053
There were a few human planets that weren't Imperial and actually retained their autonomy without Chaos or Aliens controlling them as late as the Macharious Crusade. In 41k there aren't any left, at least none are hinted at. Human planets are either under the Imperium or Chaos held and a few are under Tau. Some do rebel, but without the Imperium they lose their protection, trade routes and other connections. So it's all short lived as they soon get brought back to the Imperium, overtaken by Chaos or enslaved by various aliens. Or they get tortured and slaughtered if the aliens or heretics aren't in a slave-taking mood.
The Imperium has a Join or Die policy because that's the only way for humanity to survive.
>>335248771
Heresy includes talking to aliens because everyone has no idea what the emperor wanted anymore. (hint it wasn't that)
>>335248772
No, that's Dawn of War bullshit, in reality odds are they slowly build peaceful trade with fringe worlds that can't do much about pirates becuase they aren't important enough for a fleet garrison. And yes, there are, most are just not major armies. The main reason why all xenos are the worst is becuase there are some truely horrific things out there that don't have army books becuas they're too small.
>>335248943
Do the Imps just explode alien planets where they are found? Or do they evaluate threat and go from there? Are their any aliens accepted under human protection?
>>335249170
A mix of all of them. If they think it might be a threat they'll usually attack first.
>>335249170
>Are their any aliens accepted under human protection?
No.
Eldar could have been one but chaos fuckery happened.
Subhuman are fine as long they comply.
>>335249340
>Subhuman are fine as long they comply
I would rather comply with them.
>>335249340
>Subhuman
Fuck, I meant Abhuman.
>>335249340
Eldar and imperium still talk a lot, it's just that it's at high levels. The eldar don't give a fuck about low level shit, and the people that they talk to know that they might occasionally burn a human planet, but they know there are good reasons and they want to keep talking to the Eldar,
Especially the inquisition.
>>335234752
Kek
>>335249537
She wouldn't even need to BLAM. Just threaten to take away cuddles and scritches from the troops.
>>335249170
They don't destroy planets for just shits and giggles as they are irreplacable.
The major alien factions are all killed on sight, except for really specific circumstances. Smaller or unknow aliens are analyzed as for their threat level. If it isn't dangerous they just leave them contained away from Imperial planets untill they can be dealt with without rerouting forces from serious threats and then get exterminated. If they pose a more serious threat to Imperial planets or are on a planet that the Imperium wants to take then they get a higher priority.
Technically no sentient aliens are exempt from the KOS policy, but cooperation and temporary alliances do happen from time to time.
>>335249340
>Eldar could have been one
Never. Humanity is far to short term. Eldar act based on things that will happen 10,000 years later. The move, war, and think based on things that are not and depending on what happens may not be.
Because of this their relationships with humans are very strained. Humans just see Eldar purging a planet. They dont see that the Eldar are doing it because in 500 years a hive fleet will divert its course and will be destroyed by humanity it its a barren lifeless world.
>>335249857
He's talking about when the Emperor was still around.
Eldrad and the Emperor were pretty close.
>>335249971
>Eldrad and the Emperor were pretty close.
Wat
>>335249857
>They dont see that the Eldar are doing it because in 500 years a hive fleet will divert its course and will be destroyed by humanity it its a barren lifeless world.
Then why don't they fucking tell the Imperium that so that they can evacuate the planet or exterminatus it themselves if it comes to that? You can't just tell nobody why you gassed a whole planet and killed fucking millions and then be angry when they retaliate, how would the Eldar like it if the Imperium did that to them?
>>335250052
IIRC they had quite regular communication in the newer books they wrote about that time.
I vote we make all catfolk living purity seals.
>>335250132
The Imperium dont' listen since the emperor became a vegetable.
>>335250132
Because humanity doesn't fucking listen. Very few humans accept the word of the Eldar and in those cases the Eldar do tell humanity whats up. But when everyone around shoots you before you can say hello the best thing to do is to just move on with the plan.
>>335250132
Most of the time they don't see a reason to. The Eldar have a very dim view of humanity in general, and would gladly sacrifice scores of humans if it would save the life of one of their own.
>>335250214
>removing the sacred human skull from my seal
You disgust me.
>>335249857
>>335250052
Yeah, I'm talking about 30k.
Blame Fulgrim: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fulgrim
>Fulgrim himself met with the renowned Farseer Eldrad Ulthran of Ulthwé on the Maiden World Tarsus, in which the Farseer attempted to warn Fulgrim of Horus' grievous wounding at the hands of Eugen Temba and his Anathame, and how he was slowly beginning to turn to Chaos as he recuperated. Fulgrim reacted with outrage at the Farseer's accusations due to his close friendship with Horus, second only to his bond with Ferrus Manus. This was spurred on by the influence of Fulgrim's Laeran blade, which was infused with a Slaaneshi entity. Fulgrim furiously attacked Eldrad alongside his captains and the Phoenix Guard, destroying both Khiraen Goldhelm, an ancient and revered Wraithlord as well as an Avatar of Khaine in the process, forcing Eldrad and his beleaguered forces to withdraw. This victory to Fulgrim's subsequent destruction of various Eldar maiden worlds using virus bombs as a means to end the supposed treachery of the Eldar
>>335250402
Well cmon. That's what humanity does on its own. They spend human lives like its nothing.
>>335250456
Wow. That was like the exact worst way he could have reacted to that situation.
>>335250450
>Not wanting your purity seal to whisper the words of the emperor into your ear
>>335250649
He was being influenced by a daemon. Was pretty cool that he punched the Avatar to death like it was nothing though.
>>335250482
True, but it's their lives to spend.
A good example is Dawn of War, where Macha spends half the game goading the Orks and Blood Ravens into acting like retards, bitches that she did it to stop the Alpha Legion from finding the Maledictum, which she didn't bother to tell anybody about.
>>335250649
That's Fulgrim for you. He was always kind of a cunt. Most of the Primarchs were to various degrees, outside of Vulkan and Sanguinius.
>>335250482
The Imperium sacrifices lives based off of the Emperor's divine guidance. You cheapen the Emperor by comparing his will with that of a xenos. Go and see the Commisar.
>>335250849
>implying Robutt Gullyman wasn't perfect
>>335250881
But anon what if I am the commissar?
>>335250402
and yet, the fire dragon aspect is a thing
>>335250998
My man.
>>335244956
>Eldar, Sisters of Battle, or Tau
How much of a sissy faggot are you
>>335251113
Source
>>335250456
>renowned Farseer
>out of all the Primarchs he picks the one who was being influenced by a Slaaneshi Daemon hiding in his sword
>>335251084
Is that really a regular Eldar he is talking to there? looks very Dark
I swear to Slaanesh these fucking Eldar allies are fucking cowards that capitulate as soon as they get within range.
It has happened to many times now, fucking christ.
>>335251150
Well considering I cant be in a relationship with a girl unless she is dominate and the "man" in the relationship I would say a huge one.
>>335251257
there are no civilian models, so he probably just grabbed a model
>>335251257
That's Guardian armor, so it's Craftworld.
>>335251294
GIRL IS DOMINATE
>>335251374
Eldar Guardians are all civilian militia.
>>335251273
Aren't Eldar ship fragile as fuck but based all on close range? They probably open with their first hit then quit when it doesn't do enough damage.
>>335251489
What
I actually feel bad
>>335251596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7r9RqWBdl8
What's the name of the boat in Berserk?
>>335251749
>as seen on Kotaku
I'll pass.
>>335251867
>hurr durr
Never heard of Bulletstorm?
What upgrades/skills should I be looking at as IN?
>>335251525
Gotta get close to hit and then run away.
They even got a skill that turns them 180 immediately
>>335251791
Mr. Bones' Wild Ride
>>335230794
Well, counting each expansion of DoW as a game is a bit far fetched, but the point still stands.
>>335208719
High Priest of Hateful Posts
>>335219940
kek
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