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Still the best Ratchet game.
I wonder if the people that unironically say this ever remember this boss fight.
>>335168116
this
my nigga
But that isn't Tools of DestructionI know it isnt the best, but it is my favorite, thus it counts as a fact
>>335168116
doing co-op on that game was fantastic. mods were fun to mess with too
>>335170074
ToD was mind blowing at first, smashing a ton of crates and seeing hundreds of HD bolts flying at you.
about the new one:
i love what they did.
>hey remember Ratchet 1?
>remember dated graphics,no strafing and poor weapon systems?
>well remember no longer, we fixed everything and made it up to par to the rest of the series
>as a bonus we sprinkled some nostalgia all over it
the new game is pretty good, granted i'm not done yet, but i am 5 hours in.
love how you can replace the bolts with legopieces/rupees/sonic Rings.
>>335168116
Finaly, that or CiT.
How did they even get away with most of the dialogue from Dallas, I will never know.
>>335167782
do you think they will port the PS3 ratchet and clanks along with the HD PS2 games to the PS4? i really don't want to buy a PS3
>>335170754
The writing for the new game is horrible though and ratchet and clank 1 is a better game still.
although the worst thing in ratchet and clank 1 was having to add up every ammo for every weapon one at a time.
>>335168116
i loved how your combat bots were just straight niggas and stone cold killas. deadlocked was fucking great
>>335171026
the writing in ratchet 1 is also pretty bad, especially dick ratchet in the beginning.
>>335170970
>ratchet future collection
>ToD + QfB + ACiT + Nexus@60fps
man that would be awesome, however i feel like this is very possible if ratchet becomes popular again.
i doubt that they will port ratchet 1, they would want to avoid confusion and would rather have you buy the new one.
>>335171216
how was he a dick? he was just a bit of a 2cool4you dudebro. which he still is kind of.
>>335171545
ratchet and clank don't get along in the original.
i mean you could call this "character progression" but it just makes ratchet very unlikable.
>>335168116
Really wish they'd make a sequel to this.
>>335167782
I still prefer the first one. Yes, even after the "remake".
>>335167782
Up Your Arsenal was good too, but yeah 2 and 3 were the best. I'm enjoying this one but why did they get rid of Challenge Points? That added a pretty decent amount of replayability to the game
>>335168116
This so much. Got it in a bundle with Jax X
>>335167990
That was good though.
>>335171402
>not creating a two game bundle
>replay the classic which started it all and its Qwarktastic Remake based on the hit movie!
UYA is basically the peak of the series, although it feels a bit too orange overall. Particularly the HUD.
GC with 5-level upgrading would be GOAT.
>>335173226
>1 best ost
>2 best level design
>3 best weapon variety
>4 best replayability
What would you put PS3 on?
I think 3 was overall the best, but I have more nostalgia for 2.
>>335173482
2 had the best ost you triple nigger, and 4 was the least replayable of them all.
>>335173482
4 is deadlocked i assume?
anyways. for PS3:
CiT > TOD > Nexus > QfB
i wonder if we get another trilogy on PS4, i sure hope so.
>>335173767
Anon please, that bounce and synth in one along with less strings being used makes it godly. Envokes nostalgia despite two being first.
I replayed the game before my disk broke 20 times man. I dunno how much replay value I got out of it, including online.
>>335173986
*my first
>>335172384
You mean skill points? Skill points were just literally achievements by other name. That's why skill points are now turned into trophies completely. Into the Nexus already had same thing going even if it had in-game skill points still.
>>335167990
You mean protopet boss? That boss was such a letdown that it still turns me off from the game.
>>335167990
fun fact: you can skip this by using weapon mods, before passing through the barrier to start the fight you can shoot it with your weapons and if you have the acid or shock mod it will hurt him. It takes awhile with having to go back to the vendor to buy more ammo but once you do it enough when you start the start it will immediately end.
>>335171216
The fact that Ratchet isn't a dick in the reboot pisses me off, Ratchet was a selfish asshole that only cared about himself and grew to become the hero that he is now
Favorite weapon from GC and UYA?
GC: Mega Mini-Nuke
UYA: Rift Inducer or Suck Cannon
>>335174925
Hence why it's a reboot/re-imagining/remake.
>>335174995
they all blend together for me since i played the in a marathon for the first time right after CiT came out.
i remember the lava gun being awesome.
Nexus had that christmas themed gun that always did nice jingles, loved that.
the new one has the pixelizer shotgun and good ol' groovitron. granted i haven't seen em all yet.
GC and UYA are frequently at the top of my list for me, I lean more towards GC but my preference between the two changes on a whim. I prefer GC for it's level design, enemy variety, better arena bossesFROM PLANET CEREBELLA COMES A COLOSSAL CREATION, mini-games, ship combat, music, and general aesthetics and tone. But I also prefer UYA for it's gameplay refinements, Dr. Nefarious and the rest of it's story and characters, weapon roster, and the Starship Phoenix.
>>335175143
Which was not needed in the first place, I'd rather have a movie that is more like the original PS2 Trilogy with it's own original plot which would of had it be PG-13ish but of course they wanted to make it PG family friendly.
Hard to argue whether GC or UYA is superior, when they are both excellent games. Kind of like Timesplitters 2 and Future Perfect.
>>335170754
>love how you can replace the bolts with legopieces
I think they are supposed to be like the Sly coins. The eco spheres are pretty cool too
>>335176034
Except that R&C plot is all kinds of fucked.
>which would of had it be PG-13ish
The original trilogy is rated 3+ by ESRB. It's always been a family friendly series.
>>335170754
>hey remember Ratchet 1?
>remember great story and good character development?
>well remember no longer, we removed both things so you just need to focus on shooting things
>as a bonus we removed some of the best planets
>>335176796
This. I was gonna say
>As a bonus we removed shit tons of combat, made the bouncer a pre-order item and also changed up the story so that it's a glorified movie tie in
The bouncer part pisses me off. The story is the straw that broke the camels back. What was great about the first game's story was Rachet and Clank actually maturing, especially Rachet.
>>335176796
The only character with real growth was Ratchet and the story wasn't that special. I don't know why people pretend like it's so ridiculously good.
>>335176974
>made the bouncer a pre-order item
Sony has made them do pre-order things for each R&C game. Also, it was never going to be in the game in the first place. It was made for that specific purpose.
>and also changed up the story
It's a fucking re-imagining/remake/reboot. Of course the story is going to be altered.
>>335177190
And funnily enough after 1 Ratchet never really develops any more character. Neither does anyone else, really. Yet people still like 2 & 3 most.
>>335167782
I honestly never got the appeal of Going Commando instead of Up Your Arsenal? It feels simpler, more grindy and in a lot of cases, quite awkward compared to the sequel. The space parts, races, arenas etc. just don't quite fit as well. Can someone explain?
>>335170754
>well remember no longer, we fixed everything and made it up to par to the rest of the series
The fixed only strafing, and broke everything else.
>>335177482
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
>>335168116
This game had awesome multiplayer. It was the first online game i ever played too. Iplayed thatshit for hours on end
>>335177343
>I haven't played UYA
>>335177482
well "fixing" might be the wrong word.
they just made it more consistent with the rest of the series.
the gun upgrading and the fun techtree for guns, the healthbar.
i feel like that's what they tried to achieve (along with making a movie tie in.)
you can go back to every ratchet game, and they all pretty much play the same, except for ratchet 1 wich is the only true outlier in the mainline series.
>>335176449
hmm maybe, they don't really loom like coins, but like lego single dot pieces.
sonic rings have a great sound and visual, probably my fav so far.
How did Insomniac put out three 9/10 games with just 12 months inbetween?
>>335177905
somehow they made like 8 good mainline ratchet games, while also making resistance, while also making shitty spin off ratchet games, while also making fuse, while also making sunset overdrive, and while now making some 2D game and 3 VR experiences.they should just stick to ratchet
>>335177905
The first one is a 7/10.
Both the second and third are 8/10, not really 9/10.
But yeah, it's kinda surprising.
>>335177710
While Ratchet doesn't really care for his part in Secret Agent Clank there's nothing much different to the character.
Clank? Clank's Clank. He gets his moments only during ACiT more or less.
Qwark? Stupid plans that work, otherwise the same.
Al? Same. Helga? Same.
Who am I missing?
>>335174995
GC: Bouncer
UYA: Infector
>>335177190
>For each R&C game
Except the first four, because you know you can't have pre-order items be added in game on a PS2. At least, I don't remember any bullshit like that.
>Of course the story is going to be altered
That doesn't change the fact that it's a shit alteration. It was the only game in the series that had some proper character development. And now they rebooted it and got rid of it.
>>335177905
Isn't their lead programmer or someone basically an autistic prodigy? I remember in the developer interview/Let's Play for GC they mentioned it. The fact that he could get any problem fixed within minutes is probably a lot of that.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10020288
>>335178220
>Except the first four, because you know you can't have pre-order items be added in game on a PS2. At least, I don't remember any bullshit like that.
Yes yes, nothing for PS2 but still.
>That doesn't change the fact that it's a shit alteration.
Literally an opinion. I never cared for selfish Ratchet
> It was the only game in the series that had some proper character development.
For whole one whopping character. Wow. Arguably ACiT had some for both R&C and even Azimuth.
>And now they rebooted it and got rid of it.
It didn't retroactively erase the original game from existence, man.
Jak won.
Just throwing this one out there for those who might not have seen it, there's a Let's Play done by two of the developers for GC and UYA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK6eeS1LPFQ&list=PLBE216F8E761D085C
Its really cool to hear them talk about making the game and shit. They also did the first game but it isn't as interesting to listen to since they were just testers at the time.
>>335178630
I'M GOING TO KILL RATCHET
>>335178730
>They also did the first game but it isn't as interesting to listen to
There's some interesting shit like Dan's face as texture on a tree on the lodging planet.
>>335178630
>1 good game
>>335178507
>I never cared for selfish Ratchet
You aren't supposed to. He was an asshole. He grew into a likable person. That's called character development, which is usually part of a successful and good story.
>For one whole whopping character
Yes, the fucking main protagonist of the series. It's better than every other title in which he's just a sarcastic lovable oaf with no real development.
>B-but you can still play it! It still exists!
This excuse is invalid shit and I see retards using it all the time.
The only boss fight I remember from any of the games is the end of 1.
>>335167782
Anyone else really, really like Quest for Booty? I liked how they emphasized the platforming. The rail section in the beginning was great, and the 2 puzzles were fun.
Obviously it would be silly to list it as my favorite (~2 hours long, 5 weapons, etc) but for what it was, they did a bang on job. Comfy as fuck planet, and actually challenging fights.
Also, Talwyn a cute and Rusty Pete goat villain
>>335178324
Courtney Gears ainec. There really needs to be porn of her
>>335179136
>You aren't supposed to. He was an asshole. He grew into a likable person. That's called character development, which is usually part of a successful and good story.
No, I mean I never cared for the fact that he was selfish and had growth from it.
>Yes, the fucking main protagonist of the series. It's better than every other title in which he's just a sarcastic lovable oaf with no real development.
In future trilogy he wants to find the rest of his species though but ends up preventing Azimuth from bringing them back and shit (for a good reason too). Not to mention in Nexus (while my memory is fuzzy about it) Dimensionator could've also helped him out with that but no.
>This excuse is invalid shit and I see retards using it all the time.
How the fuck is it invalid? How the fuck did this remake suddenly make it disappear from existence?
>>335179463
Also, the retcon for Ratchet being the last of his kind (with Angela going mia with Talwyn's father apparently) was a far bigger change.
>>335178630
Not surprised, even if I prefer Ratchet, Jak has elemental shit going for him on top of guns.
>>335175808
are you me?
I am with the series since 2002, and I just wanted to say that the new one is one big disappointment.
>>335180397
care to elaborate?
>>335180134
If ACiT is in third place for you, then maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5zVn93fl9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ywtRKaoiGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Flvd6lAik
>>335179350
I loved it too, great setting.
>>335179350
The space pirates were the best part of ToD, so it was a smart idea to have them be the focus in this.
>>335179895
i love ratchet but jak is the better franchise
>>335180539
i didnt have a ps3 so i never got to play the future series.
hoping they release a collection for ps4
>>335180921
you are fucking out of your mind mate.
>>335180921
Jak franchise became shit after the first game, Ratchet only improved across its original trilogy.
>>335179414
>alien chicks are rampant with robots to boot
>it's all furry porn
>>335179350
Got to play when FFA released, it was nice. Short and sweet.
>>335180921
>First game is so-so platformer
>2nd game is all around crap save for Daxter
>3rd game gets it shit together and is actually pretty great
>>335181127
funny how you say that, having never played the first one i played 2 with 0 expectations so i really enjoyed it and the 3 even morejak 3 is my 2nd fav game ever after mgs3
>>335178630
not mad. But damn not even the spam of threads from what I see.
>>335167782
On subsequent playthroughs some cutscenes do not play again. First person is broken beyond belief.
And yet, it IS the best R&C gameon the PS2.
>>335171216
Your brain was constructed bad.
And... I am sorry a fictional character displaying anger triggered your early childhood memories.
>>335167782
Starts off amazing but gets worse as it goes on.
>>335168116
Why does he look so tall
>>335183916
It's not a screenshot from the game.
Dreadzone promotional material makes its contestants look more menacing than the real thing. Ratchet is quite short. Vox used Space Photoshop to make Ratchet look taller.
>>335183718
How many people did complain of jerk ratchet though to the point of shifting it?
>>335185103
When I played Ratchet 1-4, I did not actually have high speed personal Internet. Yes, I had NO INTERNET. I did not discuss games with other gamers, and I did not know what a "fandom" is. Thank God I didn't.
Which means, when I played a game, I formed my own opinion, instead of borrowing one from the majority of "other fans". I had no problems with Ratchet 1. I never had a problem with Ratchet 1. But when I got my own Internet, I learned that the popular opinion was that the game had bad character writing, and I apparently have to hate it now.
Fuck this. I never had a problem with the game, I never will. True Fans can go to Hell.
>>335168116
Deadlocked was quite fun, but it misses what makes Ratchet and Clank 1-3 really good.
All of the cool environments and most of the funny dialogue is missing from Deadlocked, it comes off as kind of bland imo.
>>335168116
This was fun as fuck.
Side note: am I shit at games, or do all the Ratchet and Clank games get stupid difficult out of nowhere towards the end? I've still never beat R&C 1, and 2 took ages.
>>335186418
The final level of Ratchet 1 is stupidly hard. Most people just cheese it with the Visibomb Glove.
>>335186006
>series
>ever having good plot or character writing
Not going to lie, wasn't even the greatest.
Honestly they could just re use hardass becomes more likeable. Hell ToD did the exact same with its plot device and the danger.
Only cares for the humour. More pissed on lack of lowbrow.
Huh.
>>335186307
Some of the designs in Dreadlocked were hella amazing though anon.
Have you ever really looked at the containment area, or the storm planet? Orxon's mining facility looks spot on for a Blargian world too, and shit like the Puma and Landstaker look great, especially the hovership, not to mention the Ghost Station
Also, the dialogue and writing was amazing, the fuck are you talking about. "Its cold, its dank, its scary, its just like my ex-wife", the entirety of Dallas's dialogue on the final countdown to the station blowing up, Vox News being Fox News and spreading massive slander, it was one of the best things the game had anon.
>>335186939
Well desu the last time I played was when it came out, I guess I'm wrong.
>>335186667
Just because plots were simple, does not mean they were bad.
Unless you think complicated = better.
The "Agent Clank is the hero and Ratchet gets literally NO respect from anyone, which is displayed in a ton of cutscenes." thing in R&C3 got really annoying in my opinion.
>>335187427
>what is a jokeInability to comprehend humor is a sign of autism.
>>335187760
Not that guy, but the same thing being repeated over and over again isn't funny.
>>335187253
Nah not even future was amazing and it was the whole trilogy story stuff.
I just found them alright overall.
>>335187240
Go play it again mate, they gt away with it bothm looking amazing and so many adult jokes you realize the ESRB never actually plays games.
>>335187760
You are the kind of person who thinks quark is a good character, right anon?
3 > 2 > 1 > 4
Havnt played new ones
Nefarious really brought up 3 from 2, otherwise they are pretty equally good
>>335187760
I accidently really hit a nerve there it seems.
>>335188000
Is the HD version on PS3 worth playing, or should I bust out the PS2 and pick up a copy?
>>335188000
>You are the kind of person who thinks quark is a good character, right anon?
And you are the kind of person who does not know how to spell a character's name.
Qwark was very funny until TOD, where he became meh.
>>335188246
Deadlocked on PS3 is shit.
>>335188246
Gladiator isn't on the collection anon, just 1 2 and 3. Still recommended, minor glitches but shits playable.
>>335188389
Quark was never funny. He was a failed hero with the personality of a jealous chimp, who fucked a actual chimp, constantly got in the way and only slightly redeemed himself in 3 and then promptly became absolutely useless and a massive dumb as a brick coward again.
He had and has no real redeeming qualities, he is forever a character that you just plain dislike/hate. Not love to hate, or maybe the kind that's dumb as shit but gets a laugth out of you, no, just useless and obnoxious.
>>335188246
PS3 version is perfectly playable, but there are many minor glitches and some textures are WORSE (noticeably worse).
...I think Qwark is funny. He gets some good jokes. Hell, he got pretty much the only good jokes in the PS4 game.
>>335168116
underrated tbqh
>Play Ratchet 2016.
>Go through cheats.
>Set game speed to Fast
>Enable the turn bolts into rings cheat
And that's how you turn this game into a Sonic game.
>>335188591
>>335188708
Ok, I'll get the PS2 version, then.
>>335188643
It's available on the PS3 store, but it's not in the HD collection.
>>335189219
Yes anon, that's what I said, that it wasn't in the collection but that I still recommended getting it.
>>335167782
that's not UYA
>>335168116
People are right to say it's missing some of the charm that made the first three Ratchet games so GOAT to so many. Weaker level design plus no playable Clank. The (comparatively) grimdark setting is balanced out by some of the series best humour imo.
But this is my personal favourite.
I think the Arena challenges (especially the gauntlets you have to run before you fight a boss) are fun as fuck and hugely underrated. Had some of the best weapons of any game in the series too.
>>335168116
The combat and weapons were so fucking good. It only had around 7 or 8 but they were so well rounded that they were all you ever needed. Compared to 1 and especially 2's weapon selection where 60% of weapons are shit.
All it was missing to be the best game in the series was an actual game instead of a bunch of missions.
>>335168116
>dual vipers
>scorpion flail
>hunter mine launcher
>actually useful holoshield gun
>harbinger
>arbiter
Deadlocked had some good weapons
>no breast expansion bug in the reboot
SOILED IT
>>335189727
This, right here. I loved the weapons, and the challenges, and how you could seriously grind out your equipment (and that you could only go above level 7 weapons, I think, after beating the game).
The biggest thing I wish they would've done is to make a "free roam" style of each planet, where you could actually explore the entire map in one unbroken segment.
But then again, I'm the type of gamer who can find enjoyment in nearly any game, unless it's abjectly terrible. I recently played All 4 One, and enjoyed it plenty even though it's fairly different and mostly looked down on. Surprisingly, people were still playing it online, although it might've been in anticipation of the reboot game and movie. But it was great for what it was, and honestly amazing that they managed to make it both online AND couch co-op compatible, at the same time. How many games boast couch co-op at all anymore, much less having it be completely compatible with online co-op?
>>335190708
>no plumbers crack
>>335190708
>>>bug
>>335190491
>holoshield ruined in PS3 port
This rage doesn't describe my disappointment.
>>335168116
Quick, favourite weapon and mod loadout.
Hunter mine launcher plus napalm. It was the only good mod on it.
>>335191681
How was it ruined? I never played the ps3 port
>>335191887
Mods don't seem to work when enemy touches barrier, they walk through.
>>335167990
>those seizure inducing fucking turrets
Jesus fucking christ I hated it
I remember this game having a few bullshit segments that i found tedious. UYA was a much more fun experience for me.
>>335167782
Now, how can Going Commando be the best if Up Your Arsenal improved on everything, and I do mean everything, that Going Commando did? From strafing, to vehicles, to weapons, to armor to the story and comedy, Up Your Arsenal is still the gold standard.
>>335191681
>Poison Dual Vipers
BRRRRRRRRRT
>>335191681
Leviathan Flail with lightning.
>>335167990
>can do damage to boss before fight even starts
>get out of turret, those flying shits just explode into it causing no damage to either you or turret
that fight is literally 0 threat bullet sponge: the boss
I still say:
>Going Commando had the best mini-games and sidestuff.
>Up Your Arsenal is just straight up the best traditional-style R&C game overall.
>Deadlocked has the best comedy and multiplayer.
>Crack in Time has the best Clank sections and platforming.
And while I'm only halfway done with my Challenge Mode playthrough, I think R&C might just have the best combat (and aesthetics obviously) in the series. Shame the story is so obviously incomplete though, because if not for that (and the lack of an arena) it might have cracked into my top 3 for the series.
>>335196209
Your opinion is okay, and mine is irrelevant.
However, I want to bring up the fact that, after R&C3, you can OP yourself in challenge mode. You can OP yourself SO HARD, nothing will be a challenge.
Insomniac never fixed that. So, to have some challenge, you have to replay the games, and re-do all the skill points.
>>335193816
god damn, courtney gears.
she does things to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4SsMtmcf4w
garbage video quality but fuck, i'd bet you three fiddy she's what gave me my robofetish.
the fight was fun, too.
Anyone else pleasantly surprised with the OST in the new game?
It's not as good as David Bergaud's stuff, but a lot of it still distinctly 'feels' like a proper R&C ost - even with the obvious orchestral influence/elements.
Its honestly better than I'd hoped, even if its still not great.
>>335196543
*after, and including R&C that is
>>335196671
Overpower.
Learn to acronyms.
>>335193816
I actually think it did a few things wrong compared to GC.
>Cut out fuckhueg flying around levels rather than trying to refine them
>Same for the races and ship sections; I still think both were fun and could have been made way better with ease
>Tyranids were way less funny than Thugs 4 Less
>Ranger missions were pretty shit and needed way more variety, felt like they were included just to make extra use of the MP assets
>Soundtrack had less memorable tracks overall, even if its peaks were arguably higher
Still the better game tho
>>335196749
It has moments where it comes through.
>>335193816
If they remake UYA she will be butchered. God I want to suck oil out of her robo asshole
Perfect tier.
>Going Commando
>Up Your Arsenal
Great but showing its age tier.
>R&C
Great but why is it so short tier.
>Deadlocked/Gladiator
>Good but watered down writing tier.
Tools of Destruction
Quest for Booty
>Good gameplay but who the fuck wrote this dialogue/plot tier.
Crack in Time
>Oh shit nigger what are you doing tier.
Pretty much everything else.
>>335198054
>>Good gameplay but who the fuck wrote this dialogue/plot tier.
>Crack in Time
It wasn't as good as most of the other writing, i'll grant you that, but Nefarious was still amazing.
>>335198054
>Going "filler levels, shitty boss fights, poorly thought out weapons, and half-assed mechanics" Commando in perfect
>R&C above Deadlocked and CiT
>QfBon the same tier as ToD
>both above CiT
Fucking awful list
>>335198054
Pretty much half your list is wrong
>>335199980
>poorly thought out weapons
the fuck are you talking about, GC had the best weapon selection in the entire seriesexcept clank zapper and shiteor gun
>>335198620
"And then I said, "Not so smart now, are you?" Get it? Because he's a moron!"
Best game of the series coming through
>>335200151
And the Zodiac, and the Spiderbot glove, and the shield charger, and so on.
Seriously half the decent weapons were literally taken from R&C itself, and even some of the good original ones were still poorly balanced and massively OP - like The Bouncer.
>>335200518
>Spiderbot glove
>bad
fukkin fite me
A crack in time would be the best if it wasn't for having too many great clock sections. Also planets being empty when you revisit them.
>ariana grande in the next game as ratchet s girlfriend.
>>335179350
I loved it. Had a slightly open world theme which would have been feat if they went full jak and daxter 1 and had the entire island open for exploration.
>God Tier
Up Your Arsenal
Crack in Time
>Great tier
Going Commando
Deadlocked/Gladiator
>Good tier
R&C
R&C (PS4)
Into the Nexus
>Decent tier
Tools of Destruction
Quest for Booty
>Low tier
The rest.
>>335201073
Now THIS is a list I can agree with.
>>335200796
It literally should have been a gadget instead of a weapon.
>>335201440
Why? It was fun as a weapon, and insanely useful.
>>335190491
I never realised how useful the holoshield gun was until I played Deadlocked again a couple weeks ago. It actually made it to level 10 before any other weapon.Hero difficulty barely gives you enough ammo to beat the stages, holy shit.
>>335201073
Now this I can get behind.
Nefarious is GOAT villain.
>>335201073
good list
>>335201073
I enjoyed size matters and even completed seet agent clank a couple of times, they weren't that bad
>>335201767
Not like he has much competition. Drek is basically just Kevin Michael Richardsons voice, and since they removed him with a phoning it in Paul Giamatti so he's worthless now. Tachyon is okay but very rarely great. Thugs 4 Less are hilarious but never threatening. The Prog siblings are cool, but they're only antagonists for half of their short game. The only villain near Nefarious' level is Captain Slag and he's only the secondary villain of his game.
Is the new game any good? I saw it pretty cheap (for Australia) and was thinking about getting it. My thumb is fucked at the moment, so I'll have to wait a week or 2 anyway.
>>335202760
It's a reboot of the first game.
It features a lot of the worlds from the first game remastered to a beautiful level.
However, some of the most impactful levels of the original game were cut, partially due to the movie tie-in, partially due to modern development taking a fuckload more time to do the graphics right. Gemlik, Orxon, Oltanis, and Veldin(being destroyed) are the most notable ones.
Many levels are 1:1 recreations surprisingly which is an extremely nostalgic blast to the past when playing them.
The original Ratchet and Clank's actual combat aged like milk so being able to play it with modern controls is new.
Weapon selection is somewhat disappointing, taking very few of the original game's weapons and reusing many weapons from across the series. Zurkon shows up yet again.
This is an actual spoiler,Nefarious is the final boss instead of Drek.
If you're not very nitpicky, or never played the first game, then it's pretty great. If you have played the first game though, some of the changes and cuts might feel a bit jarring.
>>335203609
I've never played the first one, or any of the ps2 ones.
I've got Tools of Destruction, Quest for Booty, and A Crack in Time, and I enjoyed all of those.
>>335204061
Then you'll love this. It's the new origin story and it's 2/3rds the price of a normal game for 10 to 12 hours of gameplay.
>>335203609
So how IS Nerfarious? He's human now apparently. I guess to set up for a sequel and make him a robot again.
>>335204369
Cheers lad. I'll pick it up when this heals.
>>335204529
He only appears in the game twice andI'm assuming he'll appear more in the movie
he comes out of nowhere and turns drek into a sheep
>>335204061
Then there's absolutely no reason you wouldn't enjoy the newest game.
Though I do recommend giving the first game a try to see what the cut levels were like eventually. The very first game also had one of the best OSTs in the entire series. Gemlik is an amazing level.
>>335168116
It's a good game and had the best coop, but claiming it was the best in the series is how I know most of /v/ has objectively shit taste.
>>335168116
>bot 1 was an ice cold killer
>bot 2 was this soft gentle soul with a stutter
>finding out what bot 2 went through
>>335191224
This. I am pretty sure that Mike and/or Tony (AKA the Developer Commentary guys) confirmed it was an intentional secret someone put in there.
>>335205429
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10020288
>you will never make love to your well endowed boss's daughter
THE SUFFERING
WONT
END
>>335195849
>that fight is literally 0 threat bullet sponge: the boss
You say that like it makes this boss anymore fun.
>>335205429
I wanna fuck that Lombax
>>335168116
I want to say this had the best online mode of the Ratchet games, but R&C3 was just so good.
>>335205429
so every girl Lombax is tall nice
It was easier than I expected getting the Platinum for the new game. I was almost certain my Groovitron run was going to fail the first time, but I managed to be thorough enough. For anyone still trying to get said trophy, Groovitron EVERYTHING, even NPCs and enemies who only appear once or twice for a short moment (like Brax or the tentacles on the train or the Sharkigators out of the water).
I hope the next remake (I'm assuming UYA) doesn't wait to coincide with a movie, otherwise it'll be fucking forever before we see a remake with objectively better Future weapons
>>335205579
>you will never make love to your well endowed boss's daughter
One, I am pretty sure Mr. Fizzwidget is NOT Angela's father. Two, Mr. Fizzwidget's man-tits aren't THAT big.
>>335207135
I just hope they'll eschew with the remakes and just make a brand new original story and game. It's a new universe and they're no longer tied down by continuity. Time to get crazy.
>>335207753
The movie sets up Nefarious being a robutt, I don't know what they're gonna do from there
>>335204529
I think having him as a human in this game was the right choice, it's a reboot so might as well have a version of him prior to him falling into that vat of robots.
>>335206359
>tfw trying to get faster than a speeding ameboid
seriously why the fuck is this several times more tedious thank kalebo thunder
>>335211974
KEK. I got kalebo thunder the second run. Would have been first but I missed one of the gates to open the first shortcut. Smh.
>>335214434
This, only I got Kalebo Thunder the first time beating that Gold Cup. Faster than a Speeding Ameboid took a bit though, like 20 minutes worth of attempts.
>>335171816
They got along alright, Ratchet was just more lackadaisical about saving the universe until Qwark backstabbed him and he got all pissy and forgot the mission.
>>335198620
Armin Shimerman is fucking great.
i got the first one a few days ago and ive been playing it for a bit
does it get better?
>>335216846
Do you mean the first game or the series as a whole?
>>335216939
the first game
i just sorta assumed the sequels would be better
>>335167782
CiT is the best
>>335217454
For the most part, they are. Strafing really adds a lot to the combat as you can just jump around like a ninja and blast enemies while switching weapons and just loading the screen with the chaos of blasts and explosions. First game's controls might not have been bad, but it basically felt like Spyro with guns and at times Ratchet felt kind of clunky compared to what he controls like from the second game and onward.
>>335217454
Actually yes. The Ratchet and Clank series builds off each game really. However I would argue that in the PS3 Future era Insomniac gets a bit lazy with a few weapons. And by that I mean Mr Zurkon and The Groovatron
>>335217454
How far are you into the first game? Ratchet starts out as a cynical 2cool4you dude, but he gets better. The game also gets better as you buy more and more varied types of guns. But if you still don't like it, no worries. The sequels are infinitely better.
>>335217653
He felt slippery too
So are we ever getting a proper sequel or are we straight up rebooting everything given the movie?
>>335217713
i left off at a puzzle with the water gun where i drowned alot
>>335217807
If the movie does well we're probably getting more reboots
>>335217807
were remaking all the games and then well do a 3rd reboot where we remake all the games again except with even more dreamworks face
>>335167782
I actually just started it after beating the first one today. It's pretty good, the weapons feel like they work a lot better now.
>>335217845
Rilgar, maybe? If so, yeah that part always pissed me off too. But it does get better. Like others said, Ratchet feels a little clunky compared to the sequels and no strafing sucks, but it's a pretty solid game.
>>335217730
How so? Most I recall having replayed a bit of the original not too long ago was him just sort of controlling like he was in a box that was hindering his ability to move efficiently.
The best thing this game did for the series was add gladiator matches
>>335218243
And adding strafing
>>335168116
Still Got 2 copies,online was rad
>>335217845
>>335218085
Dear god that flooding tunnel stressed me out as a kid. Blackwater gave me nightmares
>>335218318
>the demo section
Truly hell on earth.
>>335217845
Spam the shit out of the R1+X forward dash and you can clear it in no time at all.
>>335178134
You missed like, 30% of the game being about Qwark running away from the one thing he never wanted people to find out.
Still the best song in the series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1DG9M-V_JY
>>335211548
>mfw I gave my HD collection and CiT to my friend's kid
I hope he's having fun
>>335211548
so is ratchet actually aging throughout the games, because he looks considerably older in Deadlocked, but I'm not sure if it's just the perspective or not.
Holy fuck, you nigs are making me want to pick up the HD collection, should I?
>>335219324
Yeah
>>335219023
Pretty much. I don't think it's ever been said if the amount of time is equal to how long the series has been around, but he's much older in CiT than he was in R&C1.
>>335219324
Yeah go for it. Up Your Arsenal is still one of the strongest installments and its Dr Nefarious's first game
>>335219324
Absolutely
>>335219464
Well that's pretty cool. You don't have a lot of cartoon-looking game series that actually age their characters.
>>335204529
Humans don't exist in R&C, he and Qwark look human but they only got 3 fingers.
>>335220178
I thought Insomniac said somewhere that earth and humans do exist, just FAR away from all the shit going on in R&C.
>>335219964
He was like 15 in the first game, during the PS2 era each new game came out like a year later so Ratchet was a year older in each sequel. Same thing with Jak & Daxter, funny thing is Jak was the same age as Ratchet.
That's not UYA OP
>>335219324
By all means. If you're curious about the PS4 in any way, best to play the original trilogy so you'll be better informed about things. Reboot game is pretty much a love-letter to the franchise.
>>335201073
>R&C
>not great tier
>>335178630
I wonder how they'll spin this one to give Jak the edge since he doesn't have the fire power to deal with any of Ratchet's late game armors.
>>335220763
It has aged. It's got some of the best things in the series, but the sequels iterated where it was necessary and it shows.
It's why the PS4 version was kind of a let down. This was their chance to give it an awesome remake, and it was good in a lot of ways, but failed in many others.
>>335220889
Jak has magic powers and guns. I could see it.
Then again, Ratchet has a black hole gun.
...eh.
>>335220561
Still kind of irks me that Jak and Keira are supposed to be the same age. But kid Jak in Jak II is already like 3 or something. So unless Keira was adopted like Jak would be by his "uncle", the blatant disregard for any sense of consistency is just astounding.
>>335220964
It's not a remake, it's a movie tie in reimagining from the perspective of someone who hardly interacted with him. It's not like it retcons the first game.
>>335220553
>muh suspension of belief
>>335220553
That makes sense, I bet the same happens in real life too with us being too far away from any advanced civilization.
>>335220964
>Magic powers
Time Stop is the only OP one, and we already know time shenanigans don't affect Ratchet because of Clank.
Everything else, can be tanked with end-game armors. And then Ratchet's firepower is in the stupidly overpowered, most destructive weapons in the universe-tier.
>>335221068
Well Samos never mentioned ever having a wife so she probably is adopted, she doesn't really look like him either.
>>335221391
yeah, not being green and all that
The Ratchet games are better than the Jak games, this is true.
But holy shit does Daxter blow the fuck out of Secret Agent Clank.
>>335167990
This fight is actually really fun if you don't use the turrets.
which is odd, because even on the dev LP they said you're supposed to use the turrets
>>335221391
Pretty sure he mentions her mother at least once, who she most likely took after in looks.
>>335176739
Shove it up your arsenal, I'm going commando with 4play in a full frontal assault to make you look like a stupid bitch on my quest for booty. Seems you are deadlocked on being a fucking fag, your comments about the plot really are dated. Stop being a clock blocker and understand that the future series is Sonic fan fiction tier. Honestly size matters when it comes to these games, and the future series just doesn't stack up. The older games are much better in just about every way. Go play the HD collection and look at the attention to detail in so many aspects of the game. It's really secret agent clank.
>>335221146
That literally has nothing to do with the point at hand, that earth and humans could exist and just aren't getting involved.
>>335204529
>Nefarious
>human
Lol? Nefarious is a green orc looking alien.
>>335221068
I want to impregnate Keira
>>335221263
>he thinks using using light eco to slow down the fabric of the universe to a near halt is mere "time stopping"
>he thinks clank can do anything against it
>>335171216
>dickbag ratchet
>bad
My biggest issue with reboot and clank was how they replaced ratchet's character with charlie bucket. 5 Minutes into the game and Ratchet and Clank are best buddies and giving everyone diabetes. Dickbag ratchet and blackmailing Clank were way more fun to way.
>>335221487
Size matters is alright if you force some better controls onto it with an emulator, but yeah no the PSP ratchet games weren't too great.
>>335221674
>that the future series is Sonic fan fiction tier
Yea, no.
>>335171816
They got a long as fine as two complete strangers would given their scenario.
I like using this scene for example.
https://youtu.be/jvwhPOt5X_8?t=8m45s
If he was really as much of a dick as everyone likes to say he is, he would have actually sold Clank for the Ryno really early on. He's just a snarky sarcastic fuck, he's not an asshole.
>>335221861
SM was fine as a follow-up game to the original, but since it's apparently before even Deadlocked, it just felt like the makers didn't even know about GC or UYA.
>>335221910
YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE LEFT! DRAMA! CHOSE ONE! CLANK IS ACTUALLY NOT A DEFECT BUT A TIME GOD! LOOK MARY SUE IS BACK IN FULL FORCE! EVERONE IS A MARY SUE! WOW SO EPIC BECAUSE DRAMATIC MUSIC DURING MEME SEQUENCES OF FORCED PRETENTIOUS NONSENSE! LETS NOT HAVE FUN WITH DANGER, LETS BROOD AND BE HESITANT TO CREATE GRAVITAS BECAUSE WE GOT A "REAL" WRITER!
>>335221781
>Dickbag ratchet and blackmailing Clank were way more fun to way.
Honestly them starting this way gave the friendship they had in future games more weight, at least I thought so.
>>335222104
Of course it does. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
>>335222086
>CAPSLOCK, FUCK YEAH meme
Fuck off, kiddo.
>That smile Ratchet gets whenever you select a large weapon to use on R&C1
I loved that.
>>335222258
You say this in every thread
Fuck off
>>335221775
Oh you're right, it isn't even true time stop, it just kinda slows things down a bit. So it's not even that great.
Btw Clank is made from whatever is keeping the fabric of the universe in one piece, so lmao.
>>335168116
CiT >= UYA > Deadlock > GC > rest
Haven't played PS4 but from what I've seen it would be around Deadlock-GC level mainly from the rehashed weapons and lackluster/no boss fights.
Co-op Deadlocked was the fucking best
>>335170754
There was two THIS IS NEXT-GEN moments for me. One was Dead Rising 1 on the 360, the other was box physics in ToD on the PS3. Could push over and run into a stack of boxes and shit, blew my mind for a series I like so much.
>>335222307
Not really, no. Stay wrong.
>>335222248
Excellent response
>>335222104
>>335222161
Not to mention it gave him actual character development in becoming a hero instead of just starting out a hero
>>335222438
UYA > GC > 1 > Remake > CIT > ToD
>>335168116
the black sheep of the series. I still had fun with it though. getting numerous weapon mods and sticking them everywhere on the guns is still an amazing feel
>>335222617
>1
Literally kill yourself. Worst fucking gameplay of the series, outside of Size Matters. Drek was a shit boss.
Any Jak references in the new game?
I miss the PS2 golden era, and both games included references/easter eggs to each other.
>>335222617
ToD is just shit. No soul or memorable ideas/concepts. Generic and bland.
from what I remember uya got rid of the flying sections, grind rails, giant clank fights? and added those shitty assault missions.
also its story was pretty crappy compared to gc, even if the villain was kind of funny.and angela >sasha
>>335222801
Still one of the better Ratchet games.
>>335222083
It was by a studio of ex-insomniac employees who had to make a new engine from scratch and had a very limited control scheme to work with on the PSP.
All things considered they did a pretty good job, it just stood out like a sore thumb though because for all the PS2 games they absolutely obsessed over making each game feel the same gameplay-wise despite each having radically different engines.
>>335222808
sadly no, naughty dog is a super serious video game company now
>>335221775
My nigga are you stupid?
>>335222808
They only had Jak references in RC2 I think.
>>335222929
Yeah and it's a shame. I wonder what the two companies are like now anyway. They had a really strong relationship during the PS1 and PS2 era
>>335222808
And then there's this guy.
I miss those days.
>>335222929
I like Uncharted as its own thing, most likely due to my love of Indiana Jones and adventure stories that go a little super natural.
...But man that company has gotten so far up their own ass.
>low performance
>absolutely laughably bad lip synching and facial animations
>characters not shutting the fuck up
>scenes ripped straight from the movie
>Music is practically the same orchestral track over and over robbing the planets of any sense of identity
>Guy from Insomniac is like NOPE THERE WILL BE NO HINTS OF THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN OUR NEW ONE IS BETTER
Aside from the visuals were they even trying? I mean it's an enjoyable enough game, but their absolute contempt (hell, maybe even jealousy) of the older games and their polish gives me the shits.
>>335222808
No. There was a Resistance reference, they referenced UYA, GC, ToD, and ACiT and even a cancelled Insomniac game. There was even a Zelda reference, surprisingly.
No Sly or Jak however.
>>335222337
You're going to be in for a rude awakening when Jak wins
>>335223023
>low performance
your post
>>335222906
There's a giant clank fight but the rest is true.
If you watch the dev commentary of UYA they go into pretty good detail at all the shit they had to cut so they could include the online mode.
Which is all fine and dandy if you actually get to play it, because I sure as twiddled my thumbs with no internet wondering what the fuck happened to space and racing missions back in 2004
>>335223023
>>characters not shutting the fuck up
The only one who doesn't shut up is the vendor.
>Popped over to dads today real quick to grab the old ps2 along with all the rachet and clank games as well as all the Jak and Daxter games
>Come home and see this thread
Perfect timing
>>335223023
>>low performance
What the fuck are you smoking?
>>absolutely laughably bad lip synching and facial animations
What x2
>>characters not shutting the fuck up
Explain?
>>scenes ripped straight from the movie
It's a movie tie in, what else would you expect?
>>335223195
>still haven't played Jak and Daxter
I've played the other two. Is PS3 HD shit?
>>335223023
>>Guy from Insomniac is like NOPE THERE WILL BE NO HINTS OF THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN OUR NEW ONE IS BETTER
This is the only thing that pisses me off.
I played Ratchet and Clank 1 twice on the HD collection and remember more of it's music than the reboot I finished playing yesterday. There's no fucking personality in this games music besides the Dr. Nefarious theme the reused for I believe the 4th time
>>335223361
PS3 HD is good
>>335223248
Sometimes the lip-synching isn't all that great. But it's only in a few instance. And who cares? Not like the PS2 games didn't have some wonky looking lip-synching as well at times.
>>335223191
This. The vendor keeps talking even when there is no vendor station nearby. It's getting on my nerves.
I never see fucking anyone complain about this but this game's RYNO is literally a fucking reused RYNO4 that fires RYNOV rockets
how the hell does this piss no one off?
>>335223504
If you're hearing the vendor voice, then a box is nearby. I've never heard him when I was far away from the things.
>>335223684
And I'm telling you that I hear him when I'm not near anything. I heard him talking to Ratchet in the Rilgar sewers and in the Blarg warship on Nebulba G34.
>>335223758
then why the fuck were you not buying the weapons
>>335223784
Because I'm busy building up 20x Bolt Multiplayer for easy money
>>335223758
The sewers is probably a glitch, people have been encountering a few bugs here and there. As for G34, there are boxes throughout the station.
>>335223248
30fps actually hampers the impressive visuals
Did you even watch the cutscenes? There is absolutely no expression in any of their facial animations at all. Everyone just kind of stands there and talks with a blank expression.
Ratchet feels the need to vocalise EVERYTHING from UH OH I'M OUT OF AMMO to YEEHAAAAWWWWWW as well as the vendor and shit telling you to buy weapons constantly. It's all incredibly patronising, and pretty much everyone states the obvious all the time when the game is trying to guide you, whereas the original games didn't pester you constantly to get a move on, no one really talked during gameplay and the story didn't really slow everything down like it's been doing since the first PS3 game. Overall I'm just really disappointed with the direction the series has taken
>>335223870
I said on the warship. There are no Gagetron Vendor Kiosks on the Warship.
>>335223148
It'll just be Toph vs Gaara all over again if he does.
>>335223932
>30fps actually hampers the impressive visuals
Even if that was true, That isn't low performance you idiot. The game performs well. You're just bitching about it being 30fps.
>>335223932
>UH OH I'M OUT OF AMMO to YEEHAAAAWWWWWW
Those don't happen nearly as often as you think they do.
>>335223940
Did Garaa win because he wasn't blind or something?
>>335223038
What was the Zelda reference? Or do you mean the rupees in the cheat section?
>>335223932
>whereas the original games didn't pester you constantly to get a move on
What examples do you have for this? I can only name a handful of times where someone is telling you to get moving for good reasons (like clank talking about how Ratchet to hurry up in the sewers because he is going to drown if he doesn't
>>335224149
No, Gaara lost.
>>335223634
Best ryno was two.
>main game ryno is just reskinned 5
>fucking All4One had a unique fucking Ryno
But did it play well?
>>335224167
Rupees in the cheat section, I thought those were Zelda references if anything.
>>335224262
Not him, but I'm curious too. Only time I recall really getting hassled as on Battelia when Cora is nagging you at the first bridge and I'm trying to regain some health.
>>335223634
It's worse than that. It's literally just the RYNO VII from Into The Nexus that reused the RYNO IV character model.
>>335224262
>No, Gaara lost.
Welp, I can't say I wasn't expecting that, but god damn that is bullshit.
>>335223008
>And then there's this guy.
The difference is SLY isn't dead for sure while Jak is dead and buried.
>>335224102
>>335224262
>>335224447
I dunno how you guys can not notice the difference between the original games and the way they treated the player and these ones. Everything is just so condescendingly explained for the player and slowed down to the point where it's just incredibly annoying. It feels like the game is wiping your own arse for you half the time with the way it hand holds you throughout the story.
>>335223634
Most of the weapons are reused
>>335224669
Of course there's a difference. No one says otherwise. But you're severely exagerating how bad some things are.
>>335224669
It really doesn't. Sure, the characters are more chatty, but that's about it. They aren't talking down to the player, they aren't explaining things inanely, and they are handholding you all that much.
Cora is a shit
Elaris has a nice ass
>>335225546
Both are fairly hot, but lack any of the charm Talwyn and previous girls had.
>>335225474
Best Girl
Are all 4 one and full frontal assault actually god or worth playing? Only ratchet and clank games I haven't played.
>>335225691
Pretty much the only girl. Sasha and Angela are pretty much furry, so unless you're into that, then they're not gonna work for most people. And while there was Courtney, well, she's probably long since been melted down after being busted to pieces.
>>335225861
they're alright just don't expect traditional ratchet and clank games
>>335167782
Can someone please tell me why they made a Ratchet and Clank movie? Hasn't the franchise been dead for years?
>>335225861
FFA for cheap, sure. It's not a bad game by any means.
A4O only if you have friends to play with I guess.
>>335171216
Better for him to have a dickish attitude than have a generic positive happy go-getter attitude hero personality with no other quirks to latch onto. Rarely does he stand out in the later games, except maybe moments when he claims that Qwark has a butt-chin in 3
>>335225962
>dead for years
How did you even come to this line of thought? Their last game wasn't even 2 years ago. And before that, they were doing a game every two 2 years or so.
>>335225938
She got better.
>>335226084
I don't know, man, that's just the impression I got... I seriously thought the last game was a PS2 title.
>>335225938
Yes anon, all anthro girls are "furry."
Just like Ratchet is furry and with that nobody can really stand him.
>>335226448
Uh dude, they're literally anthropomorphic animal ladies, which is furry. They aren't like Aisha and certain others where the animal features are negligible at best.
>>335226707
Yes anon, everything is the furry boogeyman. Just like Ratchet is.
>>335226760
Nigger, they literally have animal shaped heads. That is the definition of being furry. It's not "boogeyman" when it's clear fact.
>>335226760
As someone who has unapologetically fapped to Angela's big lombax titties I think you're being a bit too defensive.
>>335225474
She was really cute in that opening cutscene for Into the Nexus. Made me want to fap to a doujin of her.
>>335228037
I would say that Talwyn looks more like an elf than an anthropomorphic animal.
>>335228175
Nobody said she looked like an animal.
>>335226434
The series never really stopped anon, its you who stopped.
>>335225645
I think it's because they have shit voice acting in the game.
>>335229481
Well that, and neither got as much action in their games as Ratchet did. Oh sure, Angela was running around as the Masked Thief, but after her unmasking, she just kind of drops out until the end. And Sasha didn't really help out with the rangers as much as the other rangers did. Meanwhile, Talwyn not only has a stake in finding the Lombaxes (as her daddy is implied to have gone to their dimension while fleeing with Angela), but she's had the most chemistry with Ratchet thus far.
>>335225962
>>335226434
You're thinking of Jak & Daxter.
>>335168116
Is this a pure arena shooter, or do you go to different planets?
It's the only R&C game I haven't played on account of it looking like an arena shooter.
>>335231717
You go to different planets but all you do on each is kill a bunch of shit and turn bolt cranks.
>>335231883
>>turn bolt cranks
>he doesn't have the bots do it for him
>>335171216
I actually liked him being a dick. He was pretty much stuck on a shitty planet with nothing to do and was forced to work on old heaps of junk all day.Little did he know that his dad placed him there to prevent him from being killed
>>335168116
>there could be someone who didn't like deadlocked in this thread RIGHT NOW
>>335171216
Dick ratchet was a thousand times superior to generic, dime-a-dozen "i am the chosen one, let's be best friends forever and save the universe" hero ratchet.
>>335171402
I hope the game does well.
Insomniac really got burned by EA and Microsoft.Especially EA for canning Overstrike's unique look and characters over test-audiences thinking it looked "too kiddie", and turning it into generic slop instead(Fuse)
>there will never be a planetside style ratchet and clank game with all the vehicles and weapons from every game
>>335222075
They had to make him nicer for the movie.
Him acting like a snarky fuck wouldn't jive with the movie's upbeat tone.
Kinda disappointed that they left some of the snark out and made him a wide-eyed kid wanting to join his idol(Cpt. Quark) instead.
Is there anything more satisfying than launching a black hole from the Rift Ripper into a cluster of amoeboids and watching them rapidly split apart into tinier and tinier amoeboids that keep getting sucked back into the same point, all the while showering you with bolts?
Is it me or are these shits hard to kill in this game
>>335232357
I miss GC's weapon variety, even if it was terribly balanced and half the weapons became completely harmless halfway through the game. Seems the weapon selection the new games give us are limited to
>generic blaster
>generic grenade launcher
>generic rocket launcher
>generic shotgun
>sawblade launcher #1000000
>polymorph beam
>le ebin Mr. Zurkon
I miss shit like the Plasma Coil and the Spiderbot Glove.
>>335232913
Mini rocket tube was pretty good
>>335232769
They do seem to require a lot more hits to take down now, my old method of using the pyrociter on them seems less effective in this game. I'll have to do my next playthrough on Normal, a lot of the enemies in general were a little too bullet spongey on Hard.
>>335234303
I run out of ammo a lot on hard
>>335234410
I had to resort to using the RYNO on Nefarious on my first playthrough since I'd run out of all the ammo on good weapons and whatever else I had left did chip damage or was ineffective against airborne enemies.
>>335234521
A lot of the weapons feel underpowered on hard
>>335234303
Played through on normal, they're bullet sponges until you break them into the smallest form.
>>335232913
I miss the leech bomb.
What was the point of devices?
>can't level
>can't really restock outside vendors
>visibomb 2.0 sucked with sixaxis
>spings should've been the grenade
>groovitron alright, getting golden was a pain
>zurkon was only good one but he got run into ground
>transmorpher also good idea but ammo was stupid for a morph weapon
>confussler eh.
>>335232913
>even if it was terribly balanced and half the weapons became completely harmless halfway through the game
They were more balanced in challenge mode for some reason
>>335221589
Actually doing that outside of NG+ is hard as fuck though, you're pretty much forced to use the turrets on first playthroughs unless you cheese it.
>>335236742
>>generic grenade launcher
>>335231958
>there are people among us that didn't play co-op in Deadlocked
>>335223023
>Guy from Insomniac is like NOPE THERE WILL BE NO HINTS OF THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN OUR NEW ONE IS BETTER
Jesus christ did someone really say that? They can't be fucking serious. Everything Michael Bross shits out sounds like the same generic orchestral music in Ratchet games.
Even Boris Salchow who did the OST for Crack in Time sounded infinitely more memorable and fitting for that game than anything that fucker Bross has worked on.
I really hate how Insomniac has treated R&C after CiT. 30FPS garbage and the games all feel like soulless budget titles now. The charm that the original games had just isn't there anymore. Even though the Future series was where the series was really starting to change in terms of how serious it took itself, it still felt like ToD and CiT had a lot of work put into them.
Oh and fuck Fixman while I'm at it, CiT was the only good story he wrote.
>tfw agents of doom and turret glove
I love having an army fight for me.
Are you going to see the movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiDO_sP00uk
The music for the PS2 games is amazing. It was so great.
>>335239273
How did I miss that?
>>335238164
Bad Company?
What do you think of the movie and games promotion so far?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peuemElU_HI
>>335242285
I could do without the "THAT WAS AWESOME" at the end of every commercial.
>>335168116
it was fun
maybe a little too grim, but the cutscenes with the two hosts were great
>>335178630
Bollocks.
>>335243357
>Dallas only gets to marry the robot on a tv show where she attempts to maim him
Closer than most of us in our attempts of robotfus
Juanita>Courtney gears
Too bad reboot gave her pupils. For what reason?
>>335196209
Jesus. Guys, remember when we didn't have PS2's and watched little gameplay videos on TV's at the mall and were like "This isn't Mario! Holy shit, look at those graphics! Look at those particles and shit! The bolts, the electricity, the guns, EVERYTHING! And it's so smooth too!" And you finally got a PS2 with Ratchet and it fucking blew your mind? It was just a quiet day, and you first started playing the game and learning the controls and everything and you died and you tried not to lose HP EVER but still wound up using the melee attack for everyone.
Damn it bros, vidya will OBJECTIVELY never be as good as on that generation.
>>335218405
>be me as a kid
>dad borrows NES from friend
>i am literally too afraid to play mario because i don't want to die
>just watch my dad play and never play myself
>fast forward to when i get my PS2 and ratchet 2
>also got ratchet 1 demo
>finished the demo no problems
>see others whine about the water parts
are you guys ACTUAL FAGGOTS?
>>335246357
>he says on /v/
Anon it's the sort of thing in which it was very tight to make it when you're a scrub as a child.
I dunno it's hard to explain .
>>335168116
fucking hell i enjoyed this. gonna have to go look for it now.
>>335246667
i just explained how i was the scrubbiest of the scrubs and had no trouble.
now the racing shit is a different story
Ratchet really was the better of the PS2 platforming trifecta.
>>335248403
>not sly 2
shit taste senpai, sly 2 was had some of the best game design EVER
>>335248729
Are you seriously arguing that Sly 2 was better than Up Your Arsenal?
>>335168116
remake this in hd
online coop nigga
>>335248941
>Up your Arsenal
>Better than Going Commando
>Better than Sly 2
>Better than Jak 3
what, senpai? I had literally finished of those games multiple times and Up Your Arsenal was the worst. There are things that were cool about it, like the very beginning when you jump off the aircraft, the 'military' type situation, but mostly it was just linear and not as well thought out as 2. It had cool little things, the Qwark game for example, some cool setpieces, the multiplayer, but it just wasn't as good. And the entire color scheme was orange and it was fucking garbage.
Sly 2 is a masterpiece of game design, level design, atmosphere, everything.
>>335249821
UYA improves on everything Going Commando did while having a better story to boot.
>>335246357
>i am literally too afraid to play mario because i don't want to die
I remember playing a Mario game and I made Mario listen to a locked door. Evil laughter came from the other side of the door and I quit the game forever.
>>335250468
i bet you think sly 3 is better than 2 as well
>>335248729
I love Sly 2, but the pacing feels off. I honestly feel like it has one too many chapters.
>>335250664
Actually, I don;. I do however think UYA is better than GC. For one thing it never drags in the middle like GC. How many Megacorp testing/manufacturing buildings does one Commando have to fight through?
>>335168116
Deadlocked was fucking great. I borrowed it from a mate and played through it in a couple of days I enjoyed it so much.
>>335243357
>>335245046
Deadlocked gets too much shit for being dark and edgy. The tone and general visual design of the game certainly was edgy, but it had some of the best humor in the series by a long shot.
It's a shame the commentator's lines are broken in the HD version though, I feel sorry for anyone that never gets to experience all their banter
>>335238164
I haven't followed the game at all since it's announcement and went in totally blind. I'm so fucking glad they kept the agents of doom. I knew about mr. meme going in though and thought he replaced them, I was fucking excited when I saw them in the vendor.
It's a shame they aren't as good as the UYA agents though
>>335236010
I think the idea was to have them be powerful sub-weapons that had more limited ammo to balance them out, but in the end the only useful ones were the leech bomb and groovitron. Zurkon was good in the early game but he's like a peashooter by the time you reach mid-game
>>335251108
>play UYA
>it's a red/orange planet with red/orange buildings, red/orange enemies, red/orange sky, red/orange ratchet armor (or washed out reddish puke green, just like the color of the vegetation), the weapons and particles are red/orange, the UI is orange
>go through multiple areas of the same uninspired monster enemies
wew.
>>335251865
Makes sense, wish they kept more. Wouldn't mind them making a reappearance than Groovitron and Mr Zurkon.
>>335251437
Wonder if full voice clips are uploaded.
>>335251437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpZg-lX2g4s
>>335251893
>go through multiple areas of the same uninspired monster enemies
it's pretty impressive how well they got a single enemy type (tyrhanoids) to work in literally every level once you hear them go into detail.
Unfortunately having the same enemies in almost every level is pretty crap after the previous games had pretty much unique enemies in every level
>>335251893
The only orange levels I remember were Veldin, The Galactic Capitol, the Starport place and the last level. And there's like 16 or 18 levels in the game. And what orange enemies? Which tyrannoids or robots were orange?
>>335251893
There definatley was more variety in the level colours than that. I never had a problem with it.
>>335252176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawKMmAhdco
>>335238687
Of course I am. Looks like it might be the first not totally ass videogame movie.
Deadlocked had a fun weapon customization thing
Why didnt they expand on it later? Weapons that only level up in a linear way are boring
>This thread has been up for 20 hours
Good on you /v/ for talking about video games.
>>335254791
it sucked, i went today
>>335238687
yep
>>335255638
the real kicker is that its a sony exclusive game series thats being discussed.
Best songs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BzdpC-uhRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go4_grJPFiQ
>>335255414
are you forgetting qwarks hideout, neferious underwater base, Obani Draco
>>335256486
You've posted them.
>>335256486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Z7GRRupOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szSgy6uTtNg
>>335256486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmrrlnNXFCE
>>335255414
I get the feeling someone got to you with that image before you played the game, or that you made it up.
>>335256486
All of Deadlocked
>>335256486
Starship Phoenix. First 10 seconds is distilled nostalgia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27vkpvn7FFk
>>335256486
You already posted Gemlik Base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUk1t7SHpR0
>>335256486
Wow it's like none of y'all niggas ever went to metropolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5DndwERaJY
>>335167782
It would be the best, but that last boss was terrible.
>>335256486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gLQ32UrScM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtIXe5OnQV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3--FEjeipY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPwDAVvB5GA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU4LCHyE6QU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=accd6qjtBdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H7QHOJcLkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHViLv5FffU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JW5CnAxwns
Fucking 1 and Gladiator man. Buckets.
>>335256673
added some
>>335257335
R&C 2 and 3 were my first PS2 games ever.
>>335258845
welp, forgot the pic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z15P6jbojOg
>Listen to the PS4 ost
>doesn't hold a candle to the fucking Original 4
>but it's not generic Ochestrated shit all the way though
I thought Bross was shit-tier. it aint david but shows he could be fucking good.
Anyone who played game, is there any remixes of any sorts?
>>335258945
Well at least we know you made the image up.
>>335259024
>is there any remixes of any sorts?
No.
>>335259087
who the fuck else is it supposed to be?
are you autistic or are you trying to somehow imply that it gives the image less credibility because i was the one who made it?
>>335259024
Pokitaru is fitting. Kalebo III reminded me of the old soundtracks a little.
>>335259439
It's your opinion. Yours alone, it would seem.
>>335174995
GC: Plasma Coil
UYA: Plasma Whip or max level RYNOdat mass disintegration. Can't decide.
>>335259695
please go look at the OP
>>335259743
You are first person I've seen that actually likes the max level ryno in UYA. Even my 13 year old self could tell that the lv5 ryno did less DPS than the lv4 ryno.
>>335259964
He's not whinging about colour schemes. UYA had plenty of colour. You just really hate any orange at all. I loved the level where you infiltrate the tyranoids after they're all robots and it looks like mechanised hell. It's not like there wasn't variety with underwater planets, metropolis, the jungle level, ect.
It's Deadlocked that suffered from being too drab. Too much grey.
>>335260449
i literally finished deadlocked at the very least 40 times (when you're playing co-op an NG+ it's literally a race to see how fast you can finish it), and while everyone in this thread raves about how good it is, i don't really agree. it was pretty much an arcade game, but the palette was fine. if anything, it was too 'by the book' in the level design and color selection.
good arcade game, can't compare to the proper R&C's.
UYA might as well have an orange filter on the screen, and i'm saying this as someone who played it immensely (multiplayer as well) until his PS2 broke down. It was literally the last game I played on it when I was a kid. Going Commando is much more nuanced and balanced is simply a better game.
Jak is so going to get freaking demolished in the deathbattle. He's cool and all, but Ratchet has fucking portable shields, multiple weapon types that work independently of him, and shit like black hole guns.
How has this thread lasted 22 hours
>>335261250
The colour in UYA was fine. You're being really autistic about it for no reason.
>>335242285
I love how they try to pull the whole "yo this ain't just some generic kids movie we cool" thing when it's WAY more generic disney shit than the original
Also
>that was AWESOME
Why does every kids movie do this?
>>335250468
>arena bullshit fights
>largely boring flat levels, nothing on the level of GC and barely any platforming at all
Small point, but that HUD is disgusting as well.
>>335261720
I never had problems with the hud.
>>335260123
Why do you need DPS if one shot clears the entire room, regardless?
>>335261964
I just hate the colour, especially after GC's looked so nice.
So what are the actual problems with the Deadlocked HD port? I know there's issues with cutscenes and slowdown at times, but what else is wrong with it?
>>335261360
Not that guy, but UYA's orange HUD and a few too many orange planets do make it feel really orange.
>>335261971
Mooks are piss easy to kill with any weapon. What the ryno should be for is boss battles. lv4 could take out the scorpian tank boss in one shot from across the room. lv5 needs multiple shots because the flash isn't that powerful. It make it not so great for fighting Nefarious either. It looses a lot of range.
>>335261598
I have to hear
>that was AWESOME
all fucking night when I stock. Between that and a Sketchers promo, I might just end up shooting myself.TWINKLE TOES, IT'S MY WORLD, LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
>>335262098
>autism
>>335168116
Thank you, this has the best combat of any R&C.
>>335262416
>disliking the visual design of something that' always on screen is autism
Ok
How many people so far have said the new one is the best because it's exclusive to PS4?
>>335261360
It wasn't. Color is pretty much the most important thing about visuals. Go play the game in black and white then if you don't care about it. Everything in it was washed out and orange and i had less fun with it than with 2.
Same as how Sly 2 had a way better color palette than 3 (even though 3 was more colorful). This shit is nuanced.
>>335262706
I thought the most important thing about visuals was being able to tell what things are so you can actually play the game properly.
>>335262313
I also hate that it changes from a RYNO into GC's Zodiac, which is boring to use.
>>335262801
Yeah and colour pallete directly correlates with that
>>335262801
Play the game in black & white then. Turn off the music too. And skip the cutscenes.
>>335262201
Player actions can go silent at times, at least in co oo. You fire away your weapon and suddenly you hear no sound. I've had it crash a few times as well.
>>335262706
It's not a matter of not caring. It's just that there's nothing wrong it in the first place and you're being autistic about it. It was fine.
>>335262201
Holoshield is broken
>>335260123
Somebody else here.
I did repeated runs of UYA until the bolt counter on the save maxed out at pure 9s while the real bolt counter went to some number I couldn't really run out of as there was nothing to buy anymore.
I loved the Rynocirator simply because it instantly killed 95% of the enemies in the game. The killscreen was also broken as fuck and literally hit enemies in entirely different sections of the level and even nearly behind you. I was literally just walking through levels spamming it at a permanent 20x bolt multiplier.
As a shotgun it instant killed the large mechs near the end as well. The only loss was that it wasn't useful against Nefarious from my memory.
>>335262932
>>335262946
I dunno, I've watched black-and-white movies and shows before and I seemed to be able to tell that certain things were what they were just fine. I'm not sure that would somehow impede my ability to play the game. It certainly wasn't an issue in Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction with the sepia filter, and it wasn't even an issue in MadWorld where it wasn't just black and white, it was colored to look like a comic book, and it was still a great game.
I think you can tell that a platform is a platform and a gun is a gun even if something is in black and white. I'm pretty sure the most important thing about visuals is being able to tell that.
Just saying.
>>335263426
"Visuals" mostly refers to how nice something looks, not just if you can tell what's happening.
>one time you glitched in ACiT
>No good photographic proof because hands shook like cripple and phone crap camera
I'm kicking myself.
How did this trigger i keep asking.
>>335263595
Well if you want to use that as the definition then sure, color is quite important. Though having played some ugly-ass games I'd say it's not entirely that much more important than graphical fidelity.
>>335263668
Is this where I'm supposed to ask what happened or do you expect me to just know?
>>335263815
Former.
I don't even know anymore. Was 6 years back. Something like most of past Zanifar fucked up with textures, everything green like timerifts. Stuff like trees or NPCs remained but most of map just a neon green like that. Though pits and stuff remained.
Best quallity picture I had.
>>335262801
>>335262932
Values (how things look purely on a black and white scale, more or less) are actually more important for being able to tell what's going on in a image, and color is more to add on to that. Which is not to say it's not important for creating good visuals.
All that said though I think UYA does an okay job with the colors. Yeah, it's not as well done as GC or many other games out there, but it's clear they're going for a "main" color, and I think they could have made some more planets not orange, but it still had some different colors for planets, such as Qwark's hideout and the water planet.
>>335232262
And then they went to far the other way with sunset overmeme
>>335262620
No one here.
Some have said it's their first one and they love it though.
>>335264725
That's acceptable.
>>335262801
>>335263083
Check out this pic. I just pressed the auto color balance button on it in photoshop.
Original is here.
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/540/540469/ratchet-and-clank-up-your-arsenal-20040819035359083.jpg
this is fucking disgusting.
>>335263426
you are clearly autistic. visuals are not just about being able to tell things apart. why do you think there are THAT many re-color mods for GTA V, for example?
Honestly ToD is my favourite and I have played all of the main serires besides nexus, do I have shit taste?
>>335265469
yep
>>335265367
They really don't look that different, which makes it funny that you're trying to call someone else autistic.
>>335220561
Really, where does it say that? I always thought he was 20s ( same with Jak)
>>335265367
>visuals are not just about
I don't believe I said they were just about anything. Can you show me where I did?
>>335265469
You kinda do, but that's okay.
>>335265649
Open them up in two separate tabs and flick between them, the original is really overbearing
>>335265523
ok, why?
>>335265776
I did.
>>335265838
The original looks like there's an orange filter over everything, there's barely any space to rest your eyes.
>>335265953
Okay.
>>335265750
why?
>>335265838
i'm the one who edited the pic. i wasn't replying up to this point, someone else was. they can see it. EVERYONE can see it because of how ridiculous it is. they even look different if you open both in black & white. something is wrong with your eyes if you don't find the fucking orange palette of the game overbearing.
I replay 1, 2 and Deadlocked every year. I just can't do 3. I don't know what it is. It just don't got the soul like the other games have.
>>335266428
I can see it, I just don't think it's that big of a difference.
>>335177905
secrets of the universe
>>335266428
Did an orange tint rape your mother?
>>335266750
No, but it's ugly like yours.
>>335177905
what games
>>335167782
>old games are better
pls fuck off
>>335216686
>Quark from DS9 is Nefarious
>>335267156
>You smashed his head in to resurrect a phoenix
>watching a speedrun of R&C
>Every world with sinking mud has a bug that lets you fly across the map
Mike and Tony weren't lying about "hacking" these games to make them work
>>335267151
That's usually true. Especially in the case of the ps2/gamecube/xbox era.
What is the best PS3 Ratchet game?
>>335252176
kind of reminds me of system shock 2
>Looking up that Gamestop game
>MC
Cute.
>>335268074
ACiT.
>>335268074
ToD
>>335245046
Worse yet, they gave her pic related's name when you collect her holocard.
>>335268303
>the buggy HD as fuck collection
>best
>>335268074
ACiT, no question.
There's something about ToD that just doesn't click for me.
>QfB or Nexus even being considered
>>335268505
Fuck me.How did she always survive getting blown up in some sort? A mass production of Darlas? Odd how robot death is treated in the series
This was a nice and unique thread.
>>335268572
It really is a shame how buggy it is. Totally playable though.
>>335268074
ToD isn't for everyone but I liked it as much as CiT. I don't think you can go wrong with either one but the latter is generally known as the crowd favorite. Don't bother with the rest of the games except maybe QfB if you know what you're getting into.
Nexus isn't bad either but it honestly feels like the worst of the mainline Ratchet games. The framerate in that game is fucking terrible
>>335267274
>honest robotic pillar of the community
>>335224102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BV95D-0aO4
